The War Within's Story Explained In 20 Minutes

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[@maelictyrsune]

Isle of Porn.

[@tel8385]

time you did a vid about the state of random bgs that is spreading to solo bgs? premades ruin pvp

[@AnyBodyWannaPeanut]

No.

[@madsword19]

I find it interesting that Thrall, Anduin and Alleria are the focus of TWW. The Corrupted Visions of Stormwind and Orgrimmar (from bfa) showed both Thrall and Alleria corrupted, and whatever happened to Stormwind Keep (and probably Anduin) was so bad even Wrathion didn't want to go look.

[@tiredtobias]

Wait I didn't even think of this 👀

[@artstrutzenberg7197]

Sort of wonder if "the war within"...might also allude to Azeroth (or Xal'atath) doing to Alleria (where it disrupts the means she normally uses to avoid void corruption)?

[@hmmmooops]

@@artstrutzenberg7197 Calling it the war within certainly makes it sound like there will be inward conflict for the characters.

[@GregorioStyreco]

@@hmmmooops na. the war within is about the war within azeroth. nothing to add there. But i kinda get your perspective. anduin has a war within since SL.

[@sohkrazed]

It was his purpose to show you the worst possible outcome

[@chimerakait]

As someone that got scared off by shadowlands, I'm willing to come back, get caught up on the lore and give Metzen's vision of the future of Warcraft a chance. They are fixing a LOT of the grief i had with this game, so ill try. Shadowlands felt pointless, but if they can right the ship and write a cool and shipshape story using the classic lore that i love, than all the better. FOR AZEROTH!!!

[@vanyel_etc8695]

Hey man, if you plan to play TWW remember that the pre order gives you dragonflight, so if you know you'll be playing it feel free to come back to azeroth early! 10.2 has multiple quests that line up TWW. It's also a pretty cool expansion lol

[@preds43]

Bro got scared by a fucking expansion set, crazy...

[@ClosedProductions]

@@preds43 they LITERALLY meant scared right? Like cowering in a corner, huh? Crazy.

[@CosmicCleric]

Don't ever pre-order a game. Don't make the problem worse. Edit: A bit blatant, aren't you guys?

[@gloameyedprince]

@@preds43 Are you that stupid or just disingenuous? They meant scared off as in they were put off by all the poor design choices in Shadowlands.

[@Jhodgie84]

I think the meta narrative is always pretty good.Its the boring dialogue and characters along with scenes where bad guys show up and leave while the good guys scratch their head and have no idea what's going on that is often disappointing to me.

[@Krulfar]

I kinda aggree but shadowlands meta narrative was mid at best and df one was decente but had a lot of holes.

[@synmad3638]

Exactly... it's like they write a cool wiki article and then make the story around that

[@davidharman3665]

I think the problem is that because the meta narrative worked so well in WOTLK where Arthas showed up and left a lot. They’ve tried to replicate that ever since.

[@Maria_Erias]

This is pretty much it. I played through the 10.2 story arc recently, and while I generally thought the overall story itself was pretty good for WoW (it wasn't an Argus by any stretch of the imagination, but it wasn't bad), the actual details of playing through it were murky, annoying, and laughable. For instance, Fyrakk is suffering the Jailer syndrome hardcore as it's never explained WHY he turns into just another boring Saturday morning cartoon villain. Even during one cut scene, Alexstrasza says, "You used to believe in something, and now you just fight for power!" And Fyrakk just laughs and says, "Yes." That's probably the single stupidest exchange in the whole expansion, because, once again, it was a perfect opportunity to explain at least a LITTLE of the villain's motivations... but nope. Don't think about it. Plus, the overall questing in 10.2 was just... boring and monotonous. A procession of "fill bar", "kill X", and "find Y" quests with no variety at all. So, good overall story. Absolutely awful story progression and exposition that felt like something out of a pay to win Korean MMO.

[@TyrannosavageRekt]

@@davidharman3665Really? Because I remember myself and many others specifically disliking that part of WotLK because it made Arthas seem like a villain from a Saturday morning cartoon.

[@Ghostalking]

I’m really excited but also very sad about the World Soul Saga. I’m really excited because they have a three-expansion plan, which is amazing! The story is compelling, the theme is enticing, and I truly can’t wait to jump into the War Within. I’m sad though because this truly feels like the end of World of Warcraft as we know it. With Illidan and Arthas’ arcs over, the titans and the mysteries surrounding them, Azeroth and Elune were really all that remained from the original WoW world. With this Saga, a lot of mysteries are gonna be answered (which isn’t always a good idea, some things are more interesting when not fully understood), the titans are gonna die, we’ll meet Azeroth in some manner and therefore will probably start to uncover once and for all what Azeroth is.

[@ChinnuWoW]

Nah, they could always expand the story as much as they want. In an interview they even said they want another 15 yrs of WoW.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

Well said.

[@Rakkis88]

WoW 2.0 maybe, but I don't think they will ever truelly end World of Warcraft. As long as some thousand or so people subscribe, the game will keep going. But I could see them majorly recreating the game after World Soul. at least I hope. The game needs an overhaul at the core. New engine, new combat system, etc.

[@jonathanhernandez885]

Im just trying to embrace it for what it is. Like your child getting too big and having to let them be on their own finally after all these years of them needing you.

[@norielgames4765]

Every ending is a new beginning. We are uncovering old mysteries such as Azeroth and Elune, but we have new heroes such as Arator (Alleria's and Tyrion's son), the Arathi humans, and a renewed set of dragon aspects. We have new enemies, such as Xal'atath, the nerubians, and all the cosmic forces (including the light) can be seen as enemies trying to control us. And the prospect of going back to Northrend, seeing Arathi humans, etc, can mean we could retcon the entire Shadowlands and see a return or Arthas or the Arator dynasty.

[@crinsowc9010]

if they give us simple, well narrated epic histories, they will be successfull

[@id2k.]

The writers view real history as problematic. They will continue to create empty hugbox stories with no stakes or teeth. Soft modern or "soy" as some put it.

[@redman836]

​@@id2k.well said

[@id2k.]

@redman836 I will say that everything presented here seems much more engaging than the DF announcement.

[@sagichdochned]

I dont think so, not for us people who left Blizzard at mid. Shitlan..... I mean Shadowlands :s As I saw the Cinematic at Blizzcon I was happy to have a more "grounded" feeling but at the half where Azeroth cryd out and "speaks" i immediately saw Hydaelyn in my inner eye and Anduin as "Ardbert" from FF14 :s For ME, WoW has left the road i enjoyed traveling on, WoW is not anymore the Game i fell in love back in 2011. They work towards a new story that the people will enjoy that are still there and also for the new Generation. Nothing wrong with it but its not mine anymore :s My sub. runs out after Jan. 2024 and I dont see myself playing anymore after that

[@OhNoTheFace]

@@sagichdochned lol ff14 andy.

[@olit1234]

I like the setting of The War Within, always wanted to journey to the center of azeroth. I hope there will be more zones that are even deeper that get added in patches.

[@WadeAllen001]

My expectation is that this Coreway that the Earthen are guarding will lead to a patch zone at the center of Azeroth, perhaps one where we actually see the world soul as the skybox.

[@Maria_Erias]

I am actually stoked that we get the Nerubians. It looks like with Metzen back in charge, he's undoing a lot of crappy writing from the last few expansions, given that the last Nerubian brood lord was supposedly killed on a freakin' *island expedition* in BfA. The Nerubians were one of my greatest hopes for a future expansion, and BfA killed that dead. So, good on Metzen for waving away that terrible piece of lore.

[@miachristensen5444]

The massive crystal in harrowfall also VERY MUCH looks like oshu'gun in nagrand imo

[@BearSonOfBear]

Is this going to be some 'Void was good all along' story line? Despite all the slavery and murder. I hope Chris Metzen gets it back on track to the old lore.

[@Pokabu94]

We better not have a return of " The Heart Of Azeroth"

[@stephenswinehart]

you'll wear your necklace and you'll like it because devs said so!

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

I hope we do, but reimagined as a UI element for legacy mode content or some kind of outdoor-only borrowed power rather than a piece of gear with instanced power

[@InternetPwnDept]

We still have to wait another two expansions before Anduin becomes worthy to wield Mjolnir. Thrall: "I KNEW it!"

[@TimeyWimey.]

You can see different cosmic forces affecting and infusing the world soul with their power across previous expansions. The titans and arcane throughout the entire game, the void with the old gods, the fel with sargerase's sword, death with the machinery under icecrown, and life with amirdrassil. The only one i cant think of is light, but that may happen in midnight and then the world soul would contain some of each power.

[@Iceburg2355]

I can't wait till the legendary plot twist comes that makes the jailer a good guy in the end

[@NostraDavid2]

Didn't they sort of do that with the end of Shadowlands?

[@Iceburg2355]

@NostraDavid2 I think so? I'm mostly being a meme

[@graddeos]

yeah they alrdy did that. Jailer had a similar arc to Thanos in the MCU. A godlike entity with good intentions but very wrong and evil execution.

[@EatTheMarxists]

Yeah, he was actually mustache-twirling evil because the universe in his image is better than the coming evil, which is apparently somehow even worse than the Void Lords. Perhaps he was speaking about them and their penchant for evil and insanity but it felt like he was talking about yet another BIG BAD that is on the horizon. This is why I said that the Burning Crusade and Sargeras should never be defeated because you then have to keep creating new Big Bads who are somehow worse and more evil than the last one, and it gets a bit ridiculous.

[@graddeos]

@@EatTheMarxists Well, we always knew that Legion and Sargeras werent the biggest of evils anyway. The Void Lords have always been the endgame when it comes to the big bads. And i ve predicted for years now that Sargeras will return to aid us against the Void in the ultimate War. He will use Illidan's body as a vessel. That was Sargeras' goal from the start. To stop the Void from conquering titan-soul worlds and eventually defeat them. Illidan staying behind to "guard" Sargeras was so forced. Blizzard wanted to remove Illidan from the lore because hes too powerful and would cause problems in BFA if he chose sides, and they also needed an easy way to bring Sargeras into Azeroth when the time was right.

[@Grishyy]

What if Xalatath is a future version of Alleria, where the Void has fully taken control over her, and she could exist outside of time (similar to how Alleria and Turalyon fought Demons for 1000 years despite it being only 24 years on Azeroth). Maybe she isn't strong enough to outright conquer Azeroth, but needs to slowly shape a future that allows the Void to eventually win. It's a contrivance, but it's plausible with current WoW lore.

[@EatTheMarxists]

That is the most-likely explanation for Xal, honestly. It was originally believed that she was like a claw or some part of an Old God but that was speculation and kinda silly. This is also speculation but less silly. She knows that she will go completely Frosted Flakes and fruit loops eventually, so it probably is her.

[@acecondor289]

I seriously miss when the weirdest thing in the lore was orcs coming through the dark portal

[@HighChurchProtestant]

Shadowlands was my time to tap out. I felt very disrespected as a player who loved the Lore of Warcraft, especially that of the Light and the Titans. This Saga is bringing me back wholeheartedly. My Blood Knight Paladin is ready to defend the Sunwell. For the glory of Quel’Thalas.

[@justinkenny5846]

I hope they do something for encouraging World PvP and balanced faction pops on regular servers - works so well on Seasonal currently - because I really like the sound of this expansion, back to WoW for the holiday season!

[@TheSpydetector]

I'll believe it when I experience it Bellular, not before

[@narwhal_dust5458]

I'm glad they're doing more of a void/light thing, always wanted to see the real battle for azeroth. cant wait to see what is revealed with the upcoming expansions

[@felmaster3534]

I do hope Locus-Walker makes his return at some point! He and Alleria are linked due to their teacher-student relationship, so it should happen!

[@jocelyn4728]

I'm shipping them. Big T is a pompous bore.

[@Light_910]

I'll be happy as long as there's no drawn out monologs made for children about friendship and family.

[@hadenjohnson5695]

I'd like to see how the tie in the archways and arcana. They were to be akin to Azerite, part of Azeroth and under ground. The plot was explored in legion then abandoned.

[@marcinbiay1074]

I'm very curious what role Amidrassil will play in the new saga. It was this tree that awakened Azeroth and gave new powers to the aspects.

[@lekrashar]

What tree?

[@ShadowKallig]

It played its part already I think. Which was establishing that Azeroth's power is not Titan magic. Something else, something different. Azeroth used the Tree to give the aspects their powers - which means they are either as strong as they were when they had their Aspectral powers, or Stronger. I don't think the Tree will play more of a part than that. It was used as a stepping stone to establish Azeroth is not a Titan.

[@marcinbiay1074]

@@ShadowKallig that would be very disappointing. this tree combines the magic of life, death and arcane and we not gonna use this power to our advantege? As you mentioned this tree has some connection to Azeroth so they couldn't make this tree at least a place to better communicate with the world soul, instead they just gonna forget this plot? ☹

[@GregorioStyreco]

Those zones have something shadowlandish on them. And i wont lie... i kinda miss those zones.

[@chaoschris8194]

The soul of the world, whom the world is named after, reached out as a disembodied voice to Anduin, a paladin, a "warrior of the light", if you would, asking him to hear her. Sounds good :D

[@frognyanya]

I'm glad we have Belluar lore videos to explain WTF the story is doing when leading into a new expansion bc the game sure doesn't.

[@annienglish4378]

I looked forward to Dragonflight and I have enjoyed it immensely, going into more Dragon lore was cool. I am next now looking forward to the War Within. You paint a great picture of possibilities, I just enjoy roaming around new areas, gwtting to know stuff, finding stuff. I don't do raiding apart from LFR, but I have an overall enjoyment. World of Warcraft has kept me sane since the very beginning and 12 years ago I played in hospital right through the leukaemia and my stem cell transplant. I owe the game a lot, it stopped me wondering about whether I would die. I will look forward to this.

[@rm-lv8ex]

My personal guess is that we will visit Undermine. It was planned long ago and khaz algar is not far from that....also it was mentioned that Undermine is pretty close to worldsoul

[@Emeldavi]

One thing to note... its plausible that Azeroth is already imbued in balance with all the major forces. Order, Nature, and Light obviously.. but I'd wager that Sargaras striking the world with that giant sword might have been Chaos, the machinery constructed underneath Icecrown could have done something to do with Death during Zovaal's final attack, and finally it would make sense that at the end of Midnight she is finally imbued with the powers of the Void, bringing her into balance with all the cosmic forces.

[@jcarrillo15]

I almost wonder if the voice that they are hearing is actually Xal'atath. Not that Anduin or Thrall would know Azeroth's voice, but I could see it being a subversive element to the trailer. I could see it playing out where Xal'atath has her hands on the core of Azeroth and is trying to somehow trick us into shifting the world soul into a void form or a form that she can then inhabit/control/take over. Just a thought I keep having.

[@DevlanMDRA1492]

oathsworn = alliance unbound = horde

[@howardhavardramberg333]

This video will again vector me into the next 20 minutes of Lore

[@Pantiflo1832]

Man those new nerubians looks great I wish some rogue group of them wouldve been a playable race rather than a 3rd dwarf

[@johernandez266]

Too much effort for the art team. lol

[@TheByron130]

Yeah, im kind of sick and tired of the dwarf clones. Every time i look at them, all i see is a bunch of customization options that my og dwarf should have, but will never get. Give me something new.

[@LG-lk5es]

I’ve been “out” of WoW since Mists. I know there’s a bunch of criticism about..a great many things..quests..leveling..gear..raids.. this that the other thing (I was literally THAT gal). But for me..removing myself ..watching this not having played in years. It makes me nostalgic to the ENTH degree..but also stepping back..holy shite. I’m truely and epically respecting in a whole new way the level of story and world building this game has done.

[@Alchemyst420]

7:16 praise the machine spirit

[@norielgames4765]

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[@NonExclusive6669]

I identifie as a Machine Speaker rock person... .. .

[@Jon-yn4pq]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me

[@wesmoulder3077]

We have been told that Azeroth consumed Spirit when fighting the elemental lords. What if the spirit was actually suppressed by the Titan imprisonment of Azeroth?

[@MrOrcshaman]

That's right people, humans holy magic originates from the narru. Draenei master race confirmed

[@alexgaeckle1540]

You mean.. Naruu are the master race.

[@NostraDavid2]

As a Paladin player: the Naaru are false gods - the Light is the Light, and it doesn't need no windchimes from space to speak in its place. The Light needs no speaker.

[@MrOrcshaman]

@@NostraDavid2 to bad, cause blizzard already decided for you

[@shanaeverowe9626]

And the orc's almost erased the draenei. Orc master race confirmed?

[@MrOrcshaman]

@@shanaeverowe9626 orcs and draenei are friends now, so it evens out

[@jonathonbaker5107]

I thought that “crystal” was the tip of the sword for some reason lol

[@KrafftyGoesBackpacking]

Same

[@BryanDaniel42]

i thought the same thing. sure looks like it.

[@TheNonamerecord]

jep same here

[@johnnyk117]

Is it me or did anduin go from lookin like brad pitt in bfa to the late paul walker for the war within

[@gabrielballiet9282]

I think he looks like Stephen Amell somewhat

[@johnnyk117]

@gabrielballiet9282 yeah i can see that as well

[@David-vl6qo]

@@gabrielballiet9282you got it!

[@David-vl6qo]

No he just started do nightshifts

[@janniebug1823]

Really well done video. Makes it more interesting for me. Thanks!

[@Tragedous]

can't shake this feeling that thrall is going to die this expansion. So much of his potential and previous storylines have been resolved and the story team seem hell bent on getting rid of as many old characters as they can to replace with their own.

[@pepepicapinto543]

I mean, better to die a hero than to live long enough to become... lame

[@ProfessorShnacktime]

Who have they gotten rid of?

[@Dajova]

@@ProfessorShnacktime Sylvanas... kinda?? She is locked down in the Maw right now and afaik, haven't heard from her since her meeting with Andiun. Vol'jin... Even tho he has had a few appearances since BFA. Varian/Varok... Except that one cameo at the end of SL. Can't remember more on top of my head, but you get the point.

[@latindwarf8173]

@@Dajova Unfortunately, we've heard from Sylvanas in the Forsaken heritage questline.

[@enderfawx3063]

​@@ProfessorShnacktimeSylvanas, Illidan, Vol'jin, Malfurion, Garrosh, and Arthas. Pretty much all the characters with a compelling storyline.

[@DrGreenNomz]

Can't just let this game die already

[@JackTDipper]

It could be that Xal'atath is not favored by The Void Lords. Comparable to Agent Smith from The Matrix, who is released and becomes a problem for the Machines, Xal'atath could be a similar situation. Initially captured, likely for good reason, she now poses a threat to both the Heroes and The Void Lords, especially if she acquires the power of Azeroth's titan soul. Regarding the Titans, one could speculate whether they are confining Azeroth as a means of control.

[@wscroggins6289]

Your lore videos are the best videos

[@MiriQLMovies]

I think it's pretty cool that we get to realise that the titans were just yet another faction trying to harness the power of Azeroth and we've been conditioned to be on their side. Which side should we be on in the future? Without the curse of flesh, old god magic, we wouldn't even exist.

[@Mysticalzelda]

I think the biggest threat to the WoW universe is any power being on top, light, void, death, etc. And that claiming Azeroth is the way to victory. That in the end, we learn its a combination of all elements being the key. The same as we always are. Azeroth is everything, we all use all the powers. Demon hunters use chaos, priests void and light, shamans use nature and fire, druids use life, etc etc. I think all of the apocolypse predictions by certain entities were from the perspective of their certain domains. Jailer was scared of something, that mightve been another power winning over azeroth. Which is why he had to claim it for himself, for death. Also having a tree made out of both death and life is a great balance piece for azeroth's power.

[@GameDeveloperTraining]

The lore is always really interesting in WoW. I love the story of the Windrunner sisters. I can't justify re-subbing to the game. Even now it's fairly inaccessible to new players or solo-ists. Raid finder is "fine" but players are still penalised for not playing with a guild or at least regular friends. It seems like every attempt BA make to try to improve things for newbies or solo-ists has the opposite effect.

[@tbag7267]

I really hate Anduin and his story It's just so full of holes and honestly, he doesn't feel like a real person, he feels fake. For example, the whole Relationship between him a Saurfang, he was the Orc that lead the original invasion of stormwind because of his brutality, Why for heaven sakes is he someone important to Anduin, he is the reason that his father Varian was so messed up. I don't understand how someone who was raised in a city of survivors from that horrible experience would be inclined to believe that there was ever good in that person.

[@BrianHuis]

The whole using the void against the void thing did not start with Alleria and her tutor. The Legion can be seen actively using the void everytime and it even stands to reason they are the best weapon against the void because they are fel corrupted. Thus my hope is that we may see Sargeras turn to our side. Remember he did what he did out of desperation, not mere malice. Maybe seeing all this he will change his stance on Azeroth.

[@graddeos]

I ve been saying that for years. Sargeras created the Legion to battle the void and stop it from infecting planets and he was using the Void against the Void itself. He didnt only have demons in his army. He had Void beings too. Voidwalkers, Voidwraiths etc. And his story Arc is not over from his perspective. It is over from ours. We defeated him and saved our planet while Illidan stayed to guard his prison. But from his perspective he hasnt achieved his goal which is to defeat the Void. I am 100% sure Sargeras will return in the Worldsoul Saga, but since hes a massive titan unable to physically enter Azeroth, he will ally with Illidan and use his body as a vessel. That way we will have both Illidan and Sargeras return into the fold and assist us in the Great War.

[@EatTheMarxists]

No, Sargeras has been completely corrupted by Fel and has turned truly evil. He didn’t start out that way of course, but his corruption is why his own Titan skin tore open and revealed, as Blizzard puts it, the fury and madness inside. Could the other Titans somehow rehabilitate Sargeras? It’s possible, but it would be stupid. He’s far better as a villain, and I fully expect him to somehow kill his fellow titans again, although for good this time, and then possess Illidan’s body so he can return to Azeroth and pretend to be him while he gathers up the currently-scattered forces of his Burning Legion. We killed his top two Generals and helped imprison him, but his Burning Legion is still alive and well.

[@graddeos]

@@EatTheMarxists Sargeras was and is evil, but his endgame was to stop the Void from corrupting Titan world-soul planets and defeat the Void. Anyone who stood in his way was as good as dead for him. Hes alrdy defeated, his legion scattered or annihilated. It wouldnt make sense for blizzard to bring him back as a big bad. We alrdy defeated him, we will do it again. The redemption arc makes more sense for someone of his stature and when the war with the void begins he will engage. Just wait and see :P

[@paweklejna5812]

"Then suddenly he was king of the most powerful military in Azeroth" I don't remember Anduin defecting to The Horde....

[@FoxBatinaHat]

Plot twist: Azeroth is a being-aspect of light, Elune is the being-aspect of void. Both are split from the same being. The theme of yin yang +/-. Balance, division and wholeness is an interesting take. Extremes of anything are dangerous. One falls far from grace when you have so much hope, eventually to plummet in despair. Those who drown in despair receive the most from seeking a lifeline hope. Dividing the two, helps no one.

[@smokeythagamer8521]

Except SL lore already confirmed Elune as the winter queens sister making her a deity of life.

[@stephenswinehart]

will be a nice change of pace to actually have continuity in the plot and not some lame arbitrary side quest for an entire expansion

[@PolaroidMemory]

Xalatath might be the 'Advancements' noted by Odin in the book from the start of DF.. maybe she was an old god or some high ranking void entity/Naru that wanted balance and peace and had an advanced culture but was overwhelmed by the Titans AND the void in the war.

[@Extreme4085]

In this exp we will hear Magni Bronzebeard: ''CHAMPION'' :D

[@thevoid7332]

I can hear Pyro nerd raging from 1000 miles away at the thought of Eonar being on "our side" lmao

[@blakedavis4209]

I just want orcs vs humans, man. These constant world-ending threats are exhausting. I was jebaited by BFA, and I haven't forgiven Blizz for it yet.

[@KirkpatrickSounds]

What if the voice is that of the Naaru within the crystal?

[@seleckt6600]

As someone who stopped really paying attention to retail story around MoP, this feels like getting back on track. I dipped my toes back into retail lore around shadowlands, and all I could think was "what in the fuck is going on? Blizzard lost the plot." Pandaria with it's whole negative emotion nonsense, wod with all manner of time hopping shennanigans, killed the biggest bad there is in bfa, shadowlands was an entire expansion of retcon, and I have no idea what the hell is even going on in dragonflight. This at least is putting the spotlight back on the original villains of the story. Feels like the last 10 years have been a roller coaster of retcon and shoehorning.

[@trekk2063]

I am a "blood elf citizen" and cannot wait to go back Home and fly over Silvermoon!

[@BryanDaniel42]

are they going to add flying to silvermoon and other no fly zones?

[@nate6856]

I just hope this is a badass and immersive story.

[@jallop7918]

As much as I want to pick retail up again, it's just way too convoluted to even start up again. Overly complicated builds and rotations, mythic + drama and toxicity, needing more and more addons just to raid or pvp, it's just not worth picking back up again.

[@franksinatra2530]

When Bell says "award-winning templates". Chills.

[@ThannatarGaming]

Many thanks for the story retrospective!

[@hawkshot867]

My guy I was burnt out of WoW after Cata and was hearbroken by BFA... Buuuut I still have a soft spot for Warcraft and its lore. Part of me longs for the day where I could zone out and get lost in Azeroth for hours. Mainline ttrpg would be dope.

[@danwebb6766]

I am super hyped for this. I hope we, as players, discover that most of the antagonists we defeated in the past were actually 'good' guys. Woopsie.

[@aster4jaden]

Given how Dragonflight ended on a whimper, I would not get my hopes up for this.

[@scottfrancis995]

Dragonflight is literally setting up for this saga at the end, that was the entire point of the ending... we also have more patches coming with more story.

[@xDheNgzTxD]

Don’t know what you mean… so far DF is one of the best addons I’ve played so far. Fun and beautiful

[@factcity376]

I agree to you but my ranking is like this Pandaria, deagonflight, bfa​@@xDheNgzTxD

[@lives4trauma]

I feel like this might bring me back and has me excited something similar to WOTLK!

[@anba9499]

Sargeras saving azeroth after he recovers would be cool

[@michaelac7320]

Yeah I wonder what Illidan and Sargeras’ roles will be in the future.

[@frederikpedersen4396]

9:12 "that massive crystal" - is that not just the tip of the sword?

[@scottfrancis995]

Nope, confirmed not by the devs

[@MrDarkenson]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Arathi would join the Horde, having ancestral connections with Thalassian Elves, aka Blood Elves now. Then Alliance could finally get hands on the proper High Elves and we would sort of have a trade between two major races in factions.

[@Jovana-jl9qq]

as someone who returned to wow after well since lichking, i desperately needed little bit of explanation

[@zwojack7285]

cant wait to watch the cinematics on KZbin lmao

[@TyrannosavageRekt]

If Xal’atath really was a Fifth Old God who was consumed by the others, then collecting their blood certainly sounds like something that could be intended to return her power. Their blood may contain her essence, and she needs the blood of all four to be reborn. That’s why she helped us kill N’Zoth.

[@ItsFactor]

I just hope the Nerubians don’t start talking about their feelings to us.

[@lukegrim3858]

If the Titans all turn out to be evil and we encounter them again (which we almost certainly will at some point) I don't see how they wouldn't absolutely smoke us. Canonically I believe Legion was the strongest our characters ever were by a HUGE margin and even then without direct buffs from the titans we would have been screwed several times over. There's also the fact that some of the strongest enemies we've ever faced, the Old Gods, were literal fodder to the Titans and could be dealt with by them like pulling out a tick. With all that in mind I don't think evil Titans is the direction things will go

[@hypnotic13371337]

Azeroth: "Thank you for dealing with the old god i had in my wisdom tooth. I'm going to leave the planet now, so you guys run this shit now" Just so done with world soul cosmic shit that i want something like this at the end of it so we can get back to the WORLD of azeroth and not cosmic powers shit.

[@harisi.8979]

That Naru crystal looks like the tip of a blade.... Early Sargaeras was charged by the pantheon to uproot old gods from worlds, though he eventually decided extreme measures must be taken... Plus the Fel is closer to the light than its counterpart, the arcane... Thrall: "that sword was aimed at something" further below is the nerubian kingdom... With all the plot twists, I wouldn't be surprised if they make sargaeras' final act. an act out of duty, when he stabbed azeroth Just saying...

[@Schimyping]

Shadowlands was my favorite expansion. I don't know why people didn't like it. Dragon flight was alright, but it felt hollow? not sure why... I'm looking forward to the new expansions though

[@PainCheeZe]

More Dwarves = More better ⚒

[@xRip666x]

A "wheel within a wheel"...

[@highcommander2007]

Honestly I could care less where the story goes AS LONG as i get a clear villain that doesnt show up get stomped and goes away. I want a "Mario Bowser" like villain that keeps finding new ways to make things difficult for us and other than side plots, our main goal is always to defeat them. This game needs a Ganon, a Bowser, a Dr. Eggman/ Robotnik, a Joker, a Ganondorf, a Lex Luthor... Give me someone who when they show up I instantly go HIM AGAIN! GET HIM!

[@georgedevries3992]

Isle of Dorn? Did Rogal Dorn built that island and named it after himself? Well damn. Now I wish the Imperium performed an Exterminatus on Azeroth and be rid of WoW.

[@lewisnash2155]

The quality of your content is so good!

[@tobiasschulz4168]

I leveled my main in DF and that was it. Heared that it was a good expansion. Felt like it but was not my style and quite too much to do. I‘m an old school vanilla gamer and played classic until BC. The new story feels generic and less epic. I have hope for the new Saga to be more back to the roots and epic and in a way grounded with more intriguing characters! I want the old heros back and arcs finishing at them. I preordered it and I’m exited to see Warcraft again.

[@beverlydingus]

the only thing that could save the lore of this game is if blizzard hired hydaelyn's voice actor for azeroth because it would be supremely hilarious

[@blech71]

I have a feeling in the end it’s about freeing Azeroth from all control.

[@TheSomeRocks]

@9:35 the last time i took Bellular's word that something was 100% what he claimed, it was the 8.3 "leak" how he guaranteed us that the "leak" about the green ghost ships in Stormwind harbor was 100% from blizz because his "team had a look at the images and confirmed that they were Blizzard quality". uh huh...

[@redjay260]

Really hope Alleria goes full corrupt and becomes an interesting character

[@matthewpereida1261]

My guess is that the Titans are normally born on dead worlds or being born destroys their worlds. Therfore the titans imprisoned Azeroth so we wouldn't die and we will have to kill her to keep her from erupting forth and destroying us.

[@bobbyy2495]

i predict the world soul is becoming a primordial by absorbing all the powers and making them balanced.

[@TauEnjoyer]

i just can't get out of my mind that the machine speakers are the admechs from 40k ahah I hope they speak in binery to their omnissia (azeroth)

[@ddenozor]

I hope it's not another 'decipher their language' activity like the furbolgs.

[@TauEnjoyer]

​@@ddenozor that would be kinda funny actually, but i think they are not "side faction" enough for that, i think they are going to play an important part probably

[@madlenlang]

Is it a “crystal” or is it the tip of the sword in silithis?

[@Muttchismo]

sword had to stop somewhere.

[@robinpimpin190]

I truly hope the Nerubian Empire gets done justice this time around. It's a shame how little the parts were we got in Wrath.

[@GalavantGaming]

I have a strong hunch that the planet Azeroth is under attack by the spirit of Deathwing in this expansion

[@csabaszombati]

For me, it's sounds awesome. I just hope they throw away this disney like style, and implement more darkness, and more despair to see in the new zones, to create an atmosphere it's an actual world of war and conflict, and gore, ambitions, and not just a disney tale, where we as protagonists are like half-gods. I liked what they did in the vanilla. Because retail now kinda feels like it's builded for 10 year olds, though the majority of players are above 18...

[@xaulted1]

Maybe Void and Light are going to become the new "factions" of WoW since Horde and Alliance doesn’t mean much anymore?

[@goldenyak629]

I choose Void. For the Void! (eh, not bad, but it's no 'For the Horde!')

[@mitchlescrauwaet4410]

that chrystal looks like the tip of the blade from the sword of sargeras it even has cracks on the ceiling

[@ddenozor]

I hope they will use the badass concept art of Jailer that was leaked before Shadowlands for Aman'thul

[@ImDirtyDan]

As a lore whore for Old Gods and the void, I am so ready for the World Soul Saga

[@shaunbutler7033]

I think the crystal is actually the tip of the sword that’s been sticking in Azeroth the last few years.