The Warhammer Episode! - Mint & Matara Podcast Episode 17

[@DefinitelyNotJoh]

POV: Mint is trapped in a room for one and a half hours with the least insane warhammer enthusiast.

[@swordonline5026]

you arent a warhammer fan until you start explaining people the warhammer lore and sound like an insane person

[@KolmManison]

Ah yes, the Bricky experience lite.

[@RvEijndhoven]

Through some manner of warp fuckery and/or moe moe kyun~ spell, the VTuber rabbit hole and the 40k lore rabbit hole have mutated into some kind of deep lore Ourobouros. And I love it.

[@login6671]

I really question your insanity rating system when Matara ranks least insane

[@KolmManison]

@@login6671 for 40k fan, she's pretty tame

[@jonathanryan9946]

Mata: "My planet got blown up" 40k fans: "Ah, Tuesday"

[@mawsal]

"First Time"

[@Inquisitor_Jeff]

“Just one? You got off light.”

[@xenogunner]

Cadians: CADIA STANDS!! T-T

[@theenderdestruction2362]

Oh cool anyways

[@wiaf8937]

wait, is matara a CADIAN COCKCROACH. fml

[@Talius10]

Bricky and DK are looking a bit different today on this episode of Adeptus Ridiculous :)

[@xuanquang9815]

then who's gonna take Shy's role?

[@mperishabIe]

@@xuanquang9815 Zentreya

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@mperishabIe He's right, you know.

[@Writer-Two]

🤣

[@senor-achopijo3841]

Genderbend episode

[@Addyboy0190]

matara"s final exam before getting her warhammer degree, convert a newbie

[@VA_Nightshade]

I have yet to convert a newbie to the lore, but my players have learned more than they care from me, cause we all jump from topic to topic.

[@Dracobyte]

The master and the apprendice!

[@Dragonskincollector]

How to get Mint into 40k: "Do you have a moment to talk about our Solid Snake in the grim dark future, Sly Marbo the hero of imperium?"

[@celston51]

All arguments can be broken down into, "Hey, you're pretty good." "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

[@Inquisitor_Jeff]

Ciaphas Cain may be hailed as the “hero”, but got nothing on the one-man-army!

[@Foffer1337]

@@Inquisitor_Jeff MOOD KINDRED !?!?!?!?!?!

[@VA_Nightshade]

@@Foffer1337 I'm kind of wanting Matara to show her TTS now.

[@Foffer1337]

@@VA_Nightshade I hope she is showing it to Mint. It's a goofy, but actually very good way of getting into the lore imo.

[@AAw3s0m3]

"There's no legions 2 & 18 in Ba Sing Se." That's the most concise explanation and I gotta shout it out.

[@ShadowWraith4226]

Are we erasing the Salamanders now?

[@viktorhaggstrom3131]

2nd and 11th be the erased ones, they were erased becau-oh hi inquisitor *BLAM*

[@CordovanSplotchVT]

​@@viktorhaggstrom3131best guess is that they were lost during the Rangdan Xenocides, with one Primarch possibly getting enslaved (the Forgotten) and the other getting corrupted (the Purged), the Marines in their legions were probably rolled into other Space Marines legions.

[@RynAwara]

​@@CordovanSplotchVT Good to know! I read somewhere (don't recall where) that it was hinted that Big E sent the space wolves to clean house on both

[@CordovanSplotchVT]

@@RynAwara it's possible. The theory is that The Forgotten Primarch was found enslaved to the Rangda by neural shackles and his legion rolled into other legions, possibly the Dark Angels who had suffered grave losses. And The Purged was possibly a loss of the whole legion and Primarch to corruption from the Rangdan taint. It would explain why so much of the Imperial records of the Rangdan Xenocides were expunged while being among the very few campaigns we know the 2nd and 11th legions were fighting in.

[@velwein]

Mata: "You just paint your little tanks a different color." Me: *Stares at his little Blood Angel Red Tank. Sniffles* "I like my little tanks and space vampires...."

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Get a grill/plough and put vampire fangs on it.

[@velwein]

@@johnj.spurgin7037 indeed, that or free hand some vampire fangs

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@velwein Green stuff to the rescue~

[@wiaf8937]

RED MAKES FINGS GO FASTA

[@aidanh7766]

Tbh, Mata's explanation was 8/10 or so. Given that she didn't have a whole lot of time to explain stuff she gave a good overview of most of the key lore.

[@MMSummerSpecial]

Yeah it's tough to get it all, plus there's some stuff i still don't know and want to discover ;_; Thank you tho :3

[@dasprints]

@@MMSummerSpecialYa did good. From trying to explain the setting as well it’s tough to keep things focused since the series has so many concepts that it’s easy to get distracted explaining that bit just to make the first point make some sense. Especially while trying to keep it a conversation and not just reading off a list.

[@BatouOfNexus]

@@MMSummerSpecialYou did good. For the time period you had you covered a lot of ground.

[@SeanHoltzman]

Honestly an amazing job, even having been in the hobby for years I havent heard many better one-off explanations outside longtime GW employees 😂

[@pokumoku2092]

@@MMSummerSpecial A little jumbled, but perfectly serviceable.

[@flakeyjunk2410]

Tau are fun in the lore because they're SO naive to the horrors of the galaxy. Theres a story of one who was convinced if he could just talk to orks he could make them allies diplomatically. He spent years decoding and learning their language, went to a battlefield, spoke to a couple of Boyz who laughed and though it was really funny that someone so puny was speaking their language before beating him to death while still laughing. They defeated a space marine chapter master on the battlefield and thought he was so powerful that they must have killed this emperor everyone has been talking about. They also analyzed a dreadnought and found out the warrior inside was older than their entire civilization. Their first encounter with the Dark Eldar ended in an entire planet's population being taken as slaves to Commoragh.

[@Knight-Bishop]

That's my argument for why they still fit in the Grimdark: they are not a threat population-wise, yet they are too technologically accelerationist to be ignored. They themselves aren't grimdark _now,_ they are a vehicle to watch in real time how the horror and corruption would break down anyone hopeful showing up to it.

[@flakeyjunk2410]

When they first came out they were a little too noble-bright. Later lore really did well adding darkness behind the idealism.

[@theshig9618]

@@flakeyjunk2410 I think the early lore and them being such shining good guys is WHY they were so hated early on. Kind of like how a lot of players dump on the Ultrasmurfs for being, well, the Ultramarines.

[@Knight-Bishop]

@@flakeyjunk2410 I'd argue that's actually also fitting: the average person doesn't go into a "for the little guy" / "for the greater good" movement cynically, but that's usually how it historically devolves when faced with external adversity... Like maybe they did actually mean well at first, and now... Oops.

[@sentryward8744]

they use other races as shocktroop. they are not that naive and innocent

[@HippieSongOriginals]

I don't know a single thing about Warhammer, but I get to enjoy another Mintara episode that comes out on my birthday!!

[@MMSummerSpecial]

HAPPPY BIRTHDAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@wassup048]

Happy Birthday Gamer

[@SeanHoltzman]

Happy Birthday!

[@AStandsForFrench]

@@MMSummerSpecial hitting "translate to english" on this just chops off a bunch of Y's from the BIRTHDAYYYYYYYYY and that's hilarious

[@ethan4475]

Happy Birthday, bud.

[@ArcaneMaiden]

_'What do you mean the Mataranid Hiveship has frilly maid dress equipped on it?!'_ - an Astra Telephatica scribe, upon seeing this collab

[@Knight-Bishop]

_"It appears to be relentlessly pursuing... The fleet carrying the Adepta Sororitas?"_

[@ArcaneMaiden]

@@Knight-Bishop 'And what do you mean they boarded their ship, specifically kidnapped hospitallers & members of Sisters Famulous, and forced them to wear frilly maid dre- Navigator, are you HIGH on Obscura right now?!??' 🧐🧐🧐

[@Ufobydeath]

"Who hurt the creators?" Thatcher mostly. Great episode, glad to see more people getting into the hobby!

[@notadog4194]

Fantastic Joke.

[@RvEijndhoven]

@@notadog4194 Not really a joke, though.

[@CantusTropus]

They're from Northern England, so yeah...

[@XV15stealth]

And upper management

[@probablythedm1669]

"Mag Uruk Thraka", as the Orks would say. Yes, Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, Prophet of the WAAAGH! is named after her. 😂

[@nathankarlsrud9335]

The Aeldari and the Krorks were created by the old ones to be mages (Aeldari) and foot soldiers (Krorks) to fight the Necrons and the C'tan. The Krorks multiplied and thrived on combat, born with inherent knowledge to fulfill all the roles needed for a conventional warfare based society. The Aeldari were uniquely in tune with the warp and master artisans, giving them incredible abilities. The Necrons beat the shit out of the old ones and the Krorks and the Aeldari, and when they turned on the C'tan to kick the shit out of them, the Aeldari had time to recover and the Krorks were doing Krork things. The Necrons were weakened, saw the writing on the wall, and peaced out for a bit. The Aeldari turned their attention to the Krorks who were already devolving without an enermy other than themselves and the Aeldari, and the Aeldari went on a big campaign to erradicate the Krorks/Orks. Through reducing their numbers and not having the War in Heaven, the Krorks devolved into hooligans. The Aeldari murderfucked their way through the next 50-60 million years. Not an "um akshuly", this is just a part of the timeline that I like.

[@Okada_Caelun]

Tau castration "depends on the author." The Tau ending in Dark Crusade mentions them putting sterilizing agents in the water supply, in addition to "single-gender reeducation programs" but I think that's the most overt reference to them doing such, and can largely be seen as a larger tone shift of Tau going from unironically good guys to "maybe they're sussy after all" Basically, if they do it, it's done in a subtle way as to maintain plausable deniability. "I don't know why the humans aren't making babies, but now that all these houses are empty..."

[@monsterson46]

Tau authors have wildly differing viewpoints on tau lore which can lead to schisms when somethings outright contradict each other or different characterizations of the same character.

[@davidpearson6916]

@@monsterson46 I love how people were clamoring for the Farsight Enclaves minidex for 7th edition thinking they'd finally get dark and edgy Tau and then it turns out Farsight is literally a shonen anime protagonist who defeats splinter hive fleets with the power of friendship.

[@Korraganitar]

Newer lore (Arks of Omen, Farsight) makes it pretty explicit that the Ethereals are as bad as many have claimed.

[@katamariroller2837]

@@Korraganitar Which is why the early noble-bright Tau are the superior version. The main draw of 40k is that you can find anything you want in it, and Tau are the noble-bright, all-inclusive, combined-arms-warfare NATO dudes. Don´t need them to be watered down because some babbies couldn´t live with that.

[@sensen9900]

@@katamariroller2837 The Point is you dont hold that Up, which is why the Shift started in the First Place. Each Noble Idea is destined to end in something Bad. Everything gets Corrupted and Twisted sooner or later. THATS the one Theme Warhammer 40k always held up. And that happens to the Tau aswell. They are still Noble, however they arnt "Perfect" because its impossible xD

[@Fred-bw3no]

BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

[@thricereckless]

SOULS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

[@mrmxypltk]

MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES

[@ExtremeEnthusiast704]

HELL YEAH BROTHER!!!

[@Krumpmaster77]

As someone who is painting Warhammer minis right now. This is perfect timing :)

[@MMSummerSpecial]

yipppeeeeee

[@realslimshady9918]

Despite how horrible and messed up the world of 40k is, the community is pretty darn wholesome and welcoming. I got into Warhammer 40k in the early 2000's and have yet to actually play the tabletop despite owning hundreds of models. I just find joy in assembling and painting the figures.

[@senor-achopijo3841]

Matara's favorite faction is Necrons? BASED

[@IanWhite1979]

I think Matara did a great job explaining 40k in a simplified manner without all the rabbit holes she could have gone down. Honestly commendable.

[@Dracobyte]

She did a good job!

[@Zattk94]

We love the Manly Manperor of Mankind

[@Hugolaste]

All praise the manperor of mankind!

[@annoyinggaster]

who is *DEFINITELY NOT A GOD*

[@rye0428]

Mint gonna love Gaunt's Ghost. The Tanith First and Only is basically Foxhound of Metalgear.

[@Dracobyte]

But without the Foxdie virus.

[@ErikVonStrix3]

"Cadia Stands" came in response to the destruction of the planet. Cuz while the plant has been destroyed, Acadia is still fighting on their soldiers are still defending the imperium. The planet broke before the guard did

[@Brady_Morningstar]

One of my favorite things I have heard for Tyranids is "the Tyranids are the least evil race in the galaxy. Because there is no malice, they are just hungry. And you happen to be food."

[@Wargulf2838]

I love Matara being like "I discovered Bricky some time ago, he introduced me to Warhammer 40k and it has been my hyperfixation for a while. and now, i'm making it everyone's problem." it's just so heartwarming and wholesome to see her share experiences and passions with everybody, i love it. I'm so glad we're here.

[@Appl_Jax]

I love seeing Matara totally geek out on this topic. I never got into it but I appreciate the expansiveness of the lore. Can't wait for Mint's episode, that's more my speed. 🥰

[@uselesspocketwatch]

As for the cost of the hobby, if you are super-savvy, it can be as low as 500 USD for a full-sized army. Some factions can be twice as expensive as others. You probably don't want to start with a hobby project that big.

[@kelakogreenaddict1888]

poorhammer my goats

[@LockMatch]

Pre-owned is the only good option for beginner

[@stphn_alpharius]

As someone who has basically been nonstop consuming warhammer for over 3 years at this point there were MANY issues as far as accuracy on matara's explanation. BUT BUT BUT... IT WAS FINE for someone's very first intro especially by someone who knows relatively little about the setting. So happy to see matara showcasing her own interest in the hobby and showing others. NECRON SUPREMECY LETSFUCKING GOOOOOO

[@SeanCrosser]

She's doing a first-step introduction, it doesn't need to be super accurate.

[@Spacefriend594]

Hail to the infinite empire!!

[@locustofchiron]

The important thing to remember is that Warhammer 40k was originally written as Satire, but as people got more an more in to the lore they've committed to the bit harder and harder.

[@bighaas]

Passion yap is best yap, glad Mata has a hobby with this level of passion

[@Dracobyte]

Yeah!

[@TinyZu]

There's something so compelling about Matara gushing over how basically everything in this franchise is cool.

[@Blolbelelelebolble]

I rate this EXTERMENATUS WORTHY HERESY/10. However Emperor's Blessing upon you Matara for introducing the world to Mint.

[@brotquel1592]

I love how absolutely chaotic Mata's narration is: that is enthusiasm at its finest right here. And I know you should never rush anyone in their hobby and so on, but I can't wait for Mata to get confident enough into the whole miniature thing to start kitbashing. If I can suggest: Midwinter Minis made GREAT tutorials for starting painters.

[@Makkovar]

I really enjoyed the episode! As a lifelong Warhammer fan, it's WILD to me that the 40k and VTuber worlds I'm both obsessed with are colliding! Yippiee!

[@seangill2522]

You would be amazed at the overlaps. So many memes of a certain shark girl vtuber being the commander of the Carcharadon chapter of Space Marines.

[@ecyor0]

31:30 I think the main confusion around this is due to a story point in the game Dawn of War: Dark Crusade. The backstory for the game is that an imperial world fell under the dominion of the T'au (as many imperial worlds on the border of T'au space do), and then the Imperium sends a taskforce to reconquer it, and a bunch of other factions coincidentally turn up at the same time, so you can play as all the factions in-game. If you play as the T'au, then at the end of the campaign the narrator talks about how the world was resettled and became a staging point for the next great phase of T'au expansion in that sector, but they sent a bunch of those dissident imperial citizens who sided with the Imperium to re-education camps and man, the birthrates kinda... went all the way down afterwards, for no clear reason. In fact within a couple generations there basically weren't any humans left... weird." Basically, the T'au don't sterilize human citizens as a matter of course, but they are 100% the kind of empire that will go "we're not going to genocide the locals for rebelling, we're more civilised than that, we'll just re-educate them and encourage them to emigrate elsewhere in the empire, and maybe slip some infertility chemicals in the municipal water supply when no-one's looking to speed up the depopulation process. You know, like civilised people."

[@Meanwhile-]

Um, Matara dIdN't TaLk AbOuT- Nah this was fun. I've been a fan of 40k since the 90's, and I dig people still getting so interested and invested in the lore at play. It's quite the dense cake to get into, but I think it's worth it. Edit: Mint asks "Who hurt the creators?" they're from England it just does this to you.

[@Okada_Caelun]

An elaboration on the Old Ones/Chaos Gods/C'tan/Warp... at least from my understanding: The Warp - a parrellel metaplane formed from the emotions of everyone in the galaxy. It is the Spirit World. Chaos Gods - personifications of powerful emotions in the Warp. Khorne is Hate, Nurgle is Dispair, Slaanesh is Joy, Tzzench is Hope(Ambition). The Aeldari gods (like Khaine) are also Warp deities. Old Ones - Not "gods" but just a highly advanced, very magically powerful race. C'tan - Physical "Gods" in the vein of Cthulhu Mythos. They have an allergy to Warp energies, which is why they teamed with the Necrons to fight the Old Ones : anti-magic vs magic

[@stryke-jn3kv]

The Old Ones also maybe looked like humanoid frogs

[@Kitousha]

@@stryke-jn3kv Indeed, which I believe is a cheeky reference to the *Slann* in Warhammer Fantasy(r.i.p.).

[@stryke-jn3kv]

@@Kitousha More to that the Slann used to be a faction in the very, very early days of 40k before getting dropped before even 2nd edition, and the Slann of Fantasy who came later were a much bigger and fatter re-imagination of the concept, or possibly what happened after they de-evolved after the warpgates went bye bye. What's amusing is that the most recent original flavour Slaan/Old One models to be made were a team in Blood Bowl of all places.

[@Carrisonfire1]

Mostly yes, a few corrections: Warp - formed from emotion and thought (including subconscious). Before the War in Heaven F'd the galaxy it was known as the Sea of Souls, within which was the Realm of Chaos. War in Heaven caused the Realm of Chaos to essentially absorb the rest of the warp and become intertwined with eachother. Chaos Gods - They're more like manifestations of concepts, Khorne is War & Murder. Nurgle is Disease, Decay & acceptance, his daemons are very jolly, playing music, singing and dancing while speading their rot. Slaanesh is Excess of any emotion or feeling, think Hellraiser. Tzeench is Change, which includes hope because you typically hope for a change (hope for a cure to disease would actually empower Nurgle) but it really encompasses any change, physical, societal or symbolic. C'Tan - Didn't team with the Necrons, they enslaved the Necrontyr and turned them into robot slaves to act as their army. They are the so called "Gods of Real Space" as opposed to the Gods of the Warp. They also represent concepts, such as the Nightbringer is death (literally, he ingrained himself as the image of death in every sentient species). Void Dragon is oblivion (true nothingness). Can you guess what Deceiver is? lol Ork Gods - Because Orkz iz da bezt. They have Gork and Mork. Gork is brutal but cunning, Mork is cunning but brutal. They are endlessly fighting eachother in the Warp.

[@Kitousha]

@@stryke-jn3kv Which only makes it better, as we know Blood Bowl is the highest form of canon one can achieve in the GW universe and is how the true End Times will be decided. 😎

[@Ahhthur]

Mint and Matara both choosing Necrons BASED I will repaint one of mine mint green in honor

[@SHOGUNTAHIRI]

Great job explaining everything! obviously a lot was missed however you did a good job of condensing everything down to make it easier to digest. Side note: Space Marines are NO- oh, I mean humanity is not boring. The primarchs are dope. Can't wait for you to get to the Horus Heresy books and read all the epic and tragic moments like Vulkan defeating the beast, or Leman Russ and the Lion duking it out, Fulgrim getting nuked by one of his sons etc.

[@A5p3r07h]

1:15:30 The Horus Heresy itself only lasted about a decade. The next 10,000 years are the story of dealing with its aftermath.

[@Demongordon]

It was amazing. You don't need to worry about getting anything wrong,(like you mentioned around the 1:30:00 mark, I just hope that you guys are having fun with it that is the most important part. However, if you or anyone is interested, in some of my rambling. I would like to give my answer the mint question "there is war everywhere?will I find children and stuff?" The answer is YES. In fact there are many, many planets inside the Imperium that are very peaceful and never saw a alien even less suffer the horrors of endless war, there are planets that are called literally "paradise worlds". In fact is a staple of 40k that even in the worst situation humanity manege to live, in deep of babel size slum that is a Hivecity, to between the machinery of the Forgeworlds or the training camps of what was once Cadia. There are children, families, laughter and love. However is also a world filled with "GRIMDARKNESS", with the war, suffering, disease, pain, incompetence, hunger, betreyal, etc. And being the main attraction is also where we spend most of our times, following the great human heroes of imperial soldiers to superhuman heroes with spacemarine and primarchs. This mean that we don't get to see or talk about the average nice world that made most of it, that is not very difference between modern earth but now having to pay space taxes to far away galatic empire. As for the 2nd part, where Mint say that she got confused between 29k and 40k. Here my take on it. - During the Humanity Golden Age, they created the AI and spread to most galaxy, imagine super star trek. - The rebellion of their AI (Man of Iron) and the fact that Warp Travel(FTL) was closed off because Slaneshee was about to be born, meant the destruction of the human empire. (there is also the start to show up psykers that don't know they had a hell portal in their mind, that caused even more problems) - Everything was destroyed, earth was reduced to Madmax wasteland where even their sea was gone. - The Emperor, the strongest human wizard, fought against all the gangs that lived on earth for the unificaiton of Earth and the Solar System, so humanity can return to the galaxy. - He had a problem the chaos gods took his 20 sons and spread them around the galaxy as secret collectables. - Joining hand with the survivors of mars, that would become the cult mechanicus. And armed with his supersoldiers the spacemarines, he did the "GREAT CRUSADE" to conquer back the whole galaxy. - He almost succeded, he already conquered more than half of the galaxy. He found his demi-gods sons to help him. - That when the Horus Heresy started and half of theses sons decided to rebel including the favorite son HORUS. That destroyed much that was build, killed billions of people, hundreds of planets are destroyed and even some Primarch died, other sold their soul to the Demon Gods. It was a Clusterfuck. - In the end the loyalist half won, and drove back the traitors and their armies. - After that most primarchs mysterious left, and human are finally ruled only by humans. No Emperor, no supersoldier or super son. However they decided to whorship the emperor despite he stating repeatable to not do that(the dark irony). - Many years pass, before a particualary Evil Pope almost broke the imperium, they decided to create the "sister of battle" because the rules "They shall have no man bear arms". - From there on they got even more zealots and crazy about the emperor and many threat that had almost been destroyed during the "Great Crusade" are back. - The Demon Gods and their cultist are terrorizing the planets and inciting revolt. - The traitor priamarch and their super soldiers that sold their soul to demons are also terrorizing eveyrhting, now backed by army of demons. - The aliens old threat like the Orks and Necrons are many times more powerful than before and awakening faster and faste - While if inside the galatic threat isn't enough, Tyranids the galatic bugs that eat all biomass and even the planet core arrived and are eating everything Orks, humans, demons, they don't care. And Their numbers are almost endless and they can spawn more in just a few hours what humans take years to prepare, train and arm. - With the fall of cadia, things got worse, because now beside all that there is a Portal to Hell the size of a galaxy wound and demons and traitors are pouring out like water and they too want to fuck with everything. - Humanity and the Imperium is holding by the skin of their teeth, fighting a losing battle against overwhelming odds and impossible foes from beyond the galaxy and reality. While inside their self mutilating tatics to gain time are less and less effective the quality, number and competence of soldiers and generals are decreasing day by day while the enemy grow stronger and in number. In this dark future, there is only war. But the humanity holding nothing but sheer spite had hold the line against it for 10k years and will hold the line until the very end. Like when cadia fell and the planet was exploding, the humans there didn't stopped fighting.

[@tempestinateapot2987]

A perfect morning after working all night, listening to the legally distinct Tyranid explain Warhammer 40k to a ghost. All the while painting some Aeldari Guardians. Instead of the Luigi-vacuum, we could put Mint in a Wraith Construct…

[@LemanRussVanquisher]

To answer Mint's question, there are actually a lot of plants in the Imperium that live fairly normal existences. But the threat of anything finding them and destroying their peace is constantly on the horizon.

[@collecter343]

Big imperium, so many worlds that never get attacked by Chaos or Xenos, we just hardly ever talk about them except in the Warhammer Crime books and that's just a very small percentage.

[@ColeBlueford]

Can confirm. There are entire worlds dedicated to being planet-sized agricultural production and processing powerhouses to ship off feed to the war machine, where the average person is more or less living like a 19th century country bumpkin. Like, you occasionally see something you don't understand, and you can taste the technology from here, but you don't have time to care about that because there's corn and tea to be picked.

[@BrandonL337]

If I recall correctly, the Tau castration thing is a one-off line from an imperium person(inquisitor, possibly?) that was *speculating* about the Tau using chemical castration to control the population of their auxiliaries. This one line was then latched onto by the type of people that want to stay ass-mad about a faction for twenty years.

[@seangill2522]

The Horus Heresy is way to dense to boil it down to a few minutes, but just to clarify: the heresy begins way before Sanguinius is killed, that actually is one of the last things that happens. The reason its such a big deal is Horus was actually the favorite son, not Sanguinius (who was however very loved by the citizens.) He is ultimately tricked by Chaos into turning, and then brings 8 other primarchs with him. Also Space Marines are all made from a gene seed of the primarch, so they are the "sons of the sons of the emperor" and are genetic super soldiers even more powerful than Spartans in Halo.

[@monsterson46]

Considering how you had to fit all of warhammer into a 1 and a half hour video, you did a decent job, got most of the major beats while trying to fill the gaps with loose knowledge and funny anecdotes. It is genuinely hard to know everything there is to know about 40k considering it's expansive size and sometimes deep depths of knowledge. To answer Mint's questions about the different worlds, Humans live on plenty of worlds living their everyday life, unless there is a chaos cult or a gene stealer cult. There are also several different kinds of world people can live on like hive cities which is one humongous wide and tall city that can house billions of people. There are agriworlds where every parcel of arable land is dedicated to farming. There are also Paradise/Pleasure worlds which are the only ones worth living on as they are beautiful and serene worlds but only the 0.1% actually get to visit there. There are other worlds people can live on but the main gist is that most humans live peaceful lives unless they are near a warfront. Addendum: Earth is also kind of a holy site considering that is where the emperor is and needs to import basically everything including water. There is no more water on earth because they used it all like 10,000 years ago

[@FeedWillyStyle]

For the Aeldari: Asuryani (Craftworlders): Arrogant ascetic elves Drukhari (Dark Eldar): Arrogant sadomasochist elves Harlequins: Arrogant clown/performer elves Exodites: Arrogant Amish elves

[@mrksimka1159]

I would say Drukhari less arrogant and more sadistic superiority complex.

[@kingskelett6265]

@@mrksimka1159 oh no definitely arrogant. They just have sadistic superiority complex on top of that. But there is a lot of arrogance. Both for eldar and in warhammer in general.

[@Ninjaguiden89]

Compared to Humans who aren't arrogant at all and want to share the galaxy peacefully with other races 😇 For real though, it gets pretty to silly to call Eldar 'arrogant' as if they're somehow unique in that lol.

[@FeedWillyStyle]

@@Ninjaguiden89 Yeah, humans are arrogant in their own right, but the Aeldari as a species are defined in part by how they think all other races are inferior to them.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Honestly it's important to remember that The craftworlders are more literal necromancers. All their tech is made of psychically-manifested bone they song into existence, amd to avoid slaanesh they imprison their souls in phylactery stones.

[@DN_Nostro]

Please, make this available on Spotify, I would listen the hell out of it!

[@xdanielx2]

Leagues of Votann will be Mints favorites as they can see eye to eye.

[@ErikVonStrix3]

"They take these words and just... Make it kinda latin." Hey hey! She gets the Imperium's naming conventions in one!

[@HassanSabbaku]

The fact Mata likes the Necrons the most is surprising but I dig it, finding your favourite faction is one of the funner aspects of 40k

[@Spigele]

In a different life, Mint would have loved the insurrectionist chaos legion where everyone says "I'm Alpharius"

[@Leonix13]

I think this was a really good attempt at a beginner summary. I would only add a few tiny details. The Old Ones were not gods, just a race of reeeeally power psyker frog/lizard people, and the reason they didn't help the Necrontier was because they didn't want a cure, they wanted THE CURE, they wanted immortality. That want of immortality is how the star gods (C'tan) tricked and enslaved the Necrons. Quick T'au lore from a player of T'au since 2001 lol... 34k they were discovered as a tribal people just mastering fire. About the time they had castles and blackpowder the tribes almost wiped each other out. Then one day a mysterious 5th tribe showed up and somehow got everyone to stop fighting and just do what they say... for... reasons, I mean the Greater Good. Then in 40k they are rediscovered and now they have gundams and anyone can join them.

[@jonathanryan9946]

Typical the happy medium with the first 3 Chaos gods creation, is that they were created during the War in Heaven but didn’t fully manifest and gain self awareness until 1,500 AD. This is way humanity shaped the 3 original Chaos gods mythos, as the Eldar were feeding Slaanesh (who herself wouldn't fully manifest and gains self awareness until 25,000-29,000 ad based on source). While the Orks were feeding Gork and Mork, who long existed before this. Since Humanity had the greatest unclaimed population. Now remember the Emperor was alive before the Chaos gods gained consciousness... this is why he was so deadset on his great crusade QUICKLY conquering the galaxy (and willing to risk certain primarchs). He probably suspected they were about to act, as he was aware of them slowly caring more and more about the material relm and not just the warp. As he saw galaxy before they truly gained consciousness, so saw their influence slowly gaining.

[@elfrikidelascartas819]

I haven't read many 40k books but I have consumed quite a bit of content about it so I am gonna try to add a little more info for anyone interested in diving on more lore: -There is no official art of how the necrontyr(when they had flesh bodies) looked like before becoming necrons(now metal bodies) with the biotransference, the picture showed on 10:16 has 2 dudes, the one on the left is a different race(the tau) and the one on the right is a fan art of the necrontyr. -Necrons don't have souls becquse the C'tan ate those, their conciusnes is basically data in supercomputers having better supercomputers the higher the rank. -The reason why the krorks devolved was because of infithing and if I'm not wrong at some point a krork somehow arrived to 40k and was leading orks but got killed as far as I know, so they should be extinct by now but there are always ways to bring more back. -The necrons don't have magic like the other races because they have no souls, but their technology is so advanced that what they do looks like magic because of how absurd it may appear to everyone else. -After the necrons became slaves to the C'tan, they genocided(all of them as far as it is known) the old ones and later when the C'tan were weakened by fithing the eldari and krorks the necrons rebeled against the C'tan , shattered them in fragments and use them as batteries and for war, necrons suffered a lot and went to sleep. -The dark age of technology is when IA went mad and started killing humanity hence the fear for AI. -The theories about the emperor of humanity are mainly because he is the most powerful psyker in the imperium so he pulls the odin trick like disguising into whatever he wants so who knows what he looks like and where his powers originally com from. -During horus heresy a big device was overloaded and basically called in the tyranids which arrived a lot later I believe. -Slaneesh is the youngest god but also not necessarily because the warp doesn't obey the laws of physics so like the 4 chaos gods have kind of always been there in a strange sense. In case I got anything wrong or not up to date please do correct me.

[@redhawk747]

Generally speaking, the big hole in the universe is called the Eye of Terror. It was caused by the fall of the eldari and the birth of Slaneesh, the 13th black crusade just originated from it and somewhat expanded it

[@ErikVonStrix3]

52:34 so they sell something for each army called a "combat patrol" which is meant to be a relatively inexpensive start to an army. Generally it's a leader, a centerpiece (like a vehicle or monster or elite) and 2-3 troops. Generally they are $120, with varying bang for your buck. Plus they are a complete, playable army, using the combat patrol ruleset, with slightly altered statblocks, abilities and objectives. But it's an introduction army and a way to start your collection generally cheaper than buying the same minis piecemeal.

[@Dracobyte]

You did a great job Mata! Bricky, DK and Shy would be proud.

[@Patty-Q]

I gotta give Matara's explanation of Warhammer a solid 9. Being relatively new to it, I can't critique much and she made it fun! Tzeench is my favorite chaos boi. Who doesn't like silly, little pranks?

[@Darkja]

Mint should get into the Guard! We have tanks, bigger tanks, and even bigger tanks! She can also add an Imperial Knight, so she can have her own Metal Gear on the army!

[@xXxS3ph1r0thxx420xXX]

Mint got a chicken, Mata got a cow, Mintara fans were proud, they didn't care how! This one came to mind every time i heard their opening.

[@unbiasedfanboy5792]

Mint is such a supportive girlfriend for this

[@Shivezilla]

I haaate being the "Well ackshually" guy, but i think Mata and Mint and others might find it interesting. During the war in heaven the Aelderi and Krorks did fight, they were made for it. Which is a bit i like since it explains why the Krorks devolved since fighting was never that intense again and Orks grow with fighting. It also explains how silly Orks are, theyre basically jury rigged soldiers for a war thats long since over.

[@JollyOldCanuck]

Also, during the War of the Beast, when the Ork’s started to evolve back into Krork’s, the Ork’s surpassed humanity in terms of technology and matched humanity in strategy and diplomacy. They were only stopped by Vulkan sacrificing himself to disrupt the Ork’s waagh energy.

[@Myomer104]

52:31 To provide a possible answer for Mint's question: Imperial Knights can be one of the cheapest armies to field. When I bought two of them, about a year or so ago, they cost ~$157, each, and 4 of them would fill out a standard strength army. That comes to about $628, before assembly and painting costs.

[@aziouss2863]

Necrons are also my fav simply because i cant even see how they can lose. They can just go to sleep and wait anything out!

[@Havok.93]

New subscriber here! 40K part 2 soon!? Great episode and great lore summary!

[@IAmDdie1]

52:47 on the price of entering the hobby, it comes down to game size. Standard games are 2000 points. But, if you can organise smaller point games (such as 500 points, 1000 points, 1500 points), it has a cheaper early investment. the cheapest armies to get into are Imperial Knights, Chaos Knights, and Grey Knights. Imperial/Chaos Knights have some expensive kits, but they are large models with h9gh point costs. Many of their kits are also interchangeable. You can build a full 2000 point Grey Knights army with 4 Grey knight combat patrol boxes

[@theproject785]

I loved hearing mata's pronunciation of all the factions and characters. (sounds so different to what i've heard for some of them and i'm here for it)

[@netter11]

ShE sKiPpEd So MuCh LoRe.... now that its out of the way This was perfect summary for mint 9/10 Good synopsis on everything and covering most of the important timeline things. Would recomend Mint to watch Bricky's all factions explained and someone like Luetin if she wants to get deeper into certain things.

[@gokbay3057]

All Factions Explained, while not 100% accurate and somewhat outdated in certain aspects is definitly a great beginner friendly video. Certainly a good place to start from if one wants to get deeper into 40K after a brief introduction like this one.

[@Dracobyte]

Yup!

[@EmmaLaBunn]

I first got into 40k all the way back in 1989, and I'm now 23 years clean. I had 2000+ point armies for Space Wolves, Thousand Suns, Eldar and, my first love, Orks. I think most of my stuff is still at my parent's house, except for a box of Orks I keep around in case anyone starts a Gorka Morka campaign.

[@Tachtzehn]

Real life equivalent of the Necron foreseeing the rise and inevitable fall of the Aeldari and choosing to hibernate until their time has passed is *choosing not to go to a party because you know some a**hole you'd rather not see will be there. Then you find out that they got way too drunk at the party and made some kind of life-ruining mistake.* Anyway, thanks for keeping me entertained at work with storytime, Hagacious Tarakanus.

[@GamerMcBaggin]

Thanks Matara for the Primer

[@petercampi2840]

Love this episode, though one correction: StarCraft was never originally a WH40K game. That is an old misconception. StarCraft is the sci-fi counterpart to WarCraft, which is in fact the game that was most likely originally going to be a Warhammer Fantasy game before changing. This is further backed up by the fact that the 1996 build of StarCraft only had Zerg and Protoss. Only after the '96 BlizzCon critique that StarCraft was "just WarCraft in space" (it used the WC2 engine) were the Terrans added in the 1997 build and onward. Had it been a WH40k clone, the Terrans would have been there from the start.

[@vladeslaw92]

I would say that the best start would be Horus Rising or trilogy of Eisenhorn

[@calebwalker2191]

As a chaos daemons player in 40K, all of the ‘daemon’ units in age of sigmar boxes can be used in 40K. Things like human warriors and slaangors cannot however

[@adriancontreras4118]

Ooh boy!!! I was waiting for this!!.. as a long time fan, this is great!!! One of my Nighthaunt units is going to the paint table, and getting the Mint colors on!!!!

[@Eamil]

Catching up on the podcast, and now I'd love to see Mint's reaction to some Imperial Guard stuff.

[@KarlPHorse]

The best way to get into warhammer lore, is in my opinion watching TTS. Yes they take some liberties for the sake of humor, but remember that the first season is literally just kitten explaining everything that has happened since the heresy to the emperor. The factions, the events, etc. It’s actually a really good show to watch if you are trying to get a baseline understanding of the world of 40k.

[@Ed-wu1xy]

9/10 For the allotted time I felt like a lot of the basics were covered, there was a couple things I felt were missed but in a lore extensive universe like 40k there's a lot to miss unless you've been swimming in it for a long period of time. I've been an avid fan of the books for the last six years and there's still little tidbits that I'm still learning here and there

[@edmg7]

My takeaway from this: Warhammer lore is crazy enough that I’m not sure I want to add it to the list of other lore-heavy series that I follow. Still, I think I get why the fans love it.

[@Trosty_de_la_Boyarde]

I want Matara to show "Astartes" to Mint.

[@brownsugarissupreme]

I love how Mata said "now we'll get to the fun part" as if everything before that wasnt already wacky and chaotic. This kinda majes me wanna buy 40k. Thanks Mata

[@SarthMannson]

Catachan jungle fighters is are an army of Rambos

[@30SECONDSREMAINING]

Mata did a really good job summarizing! Great episode! glad the Hive Tyrant could inform the Sister of Battle about the universe.

[@Dracobyte]

Indeed!

[@thiennguyendo]

I love how many of Bricky's analogies made it into this haha

[@brilobox2]

And his bad information. Shame to see he’s still propagating a lot of the things he got wrong years ago.

[@zengunman9553]

SO SHE FINALLY ADMITS THAT SHE'S THE NORN QUEEN OF "Hive Fleet Matara." Long did I suspect but now do I know!

[@Nemedrack]

Getting to get myself in this minis painting world with warhammer and learning the lore. And now the best podcast are talking about it? dear lord this is such a good day

[@CordovanSplotchVT]

Counterpoint to Matara, the human armies can have catgirls.

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

my #1 and #2 favorites are also necrons and tyranids, respectively.

[@Are_They_Wololoing]

I agree with matara about the Humans but I love them regardless they are just your average flesh bag but they choose to go onto that battlefield or forced to and look the most grotesque and terrifying things in the eyes and fight them

[@Spacefriend594]

They are an excellent tool for giving context to all the weird things in the books when they aren’t the main focus

[@layledragneel4862]

Can I just say how funny and fitting it is that Mata said almost nothing about space marines, and they have a space marine in the thumbnail😂😂😂😂

[@KFDanks]

This was a fun episode. All i really knew about 40K was TTS and Warhams, so actually learning some of the lore was interesting.

[@BoggarthVT]

1:24:28 This game being made in the 80’s in the UK, I’m gonna say… Margaret Thatcher.

[@Alex-Round]

- 0:43:13 - Pan's Labyrinth (original title: The Labyrinth of the Faun) is a fantasy horror movie directed by Guillermo Del Toro. Mint doesn't think it's scary, even though it combines the brutality of the Spanish Civil War with a monster that looks like something from Silent Hill. 😱 - 0:52:22 - Matara doesn't want to say how expensive the Warhammer miniatures can be. 💰🤑 - 1:18:00 - Matara says the Adepta Sororitas are the "Guns with Nuns." 🔫🔄✝🤣 - 1:24:28 - Mint wonders why Warhammer's world is so brutal and terrifying. From what I understand, Warhammer is originally a tabletop RPG featuring low fantasy as opposed to high fantasy (i.e. less The Lord of the Rings, a lot more Conan the Barbarian). Warhammer 40,000 (which may have begun as a joke) assumes that the same universe continues through the modern era and into the far future, so the same human and Chaos factions are still warring, only now they have spaceships and laser weapons in addition to swords and magic. I hope this helps describe the series, although Matara explains Warhammer 40K way better than this humble servant of Slaanesh. ⚔💢🩸 Thank you for the podcast, Mint and Matara! 🌿👻🪳

[@Jesse-rw5gh]

I don't know if I'd ever get REALLY into Warhammer but as someone who enjoys playing the shooter games it was cool getting context for things I've seen in them, like Psykers and Servo-skulls. Thank for the 10/10 lesson Mata!!

[@trevorweisberg8470]

As someone whose only experience with warhammer is the youtube series “if the emperor had a text-to-speech device”, it’s good to know that series isn’t far off from what it actually is….

[@derandi]

Very interesting. I knew basically nothing of the 10k universe before that, now I know a little bit. Funnily I recognised some names from people talking about it/memes

[@FilAlfredo]

i like warhammer and the expressions of mint are realy fun

[@xenogunner]

Imperial Fist enacted the Last Wall protocol to defend against the Orks invading Terra during War of the Beasts... And the Prime Ork leading the assault is said to resemble their Krork ancestors lol

[@cube1359]

Rock and Stone! For the Ancestors are Watching!

[@nikolthomas2544]

Hey Mint, models are not cheap but it's only really a huge problem if you want to play the tabletop game. Even then there's ways to run very small armies. But if you only/mostly care about the modeling aspect, just get what seems cool. The thing with the tabletop is that many units have certain allowed squad sizes, and one squad will take up one "slot" in your army. So you'll end up with multiple squads of 10+ of the same model. If you don't care about the tabletop game, you don't have to buy, assemble, and paint 40+ space marines or whatever. You could just get one box of dudes of that type and be done with it. Also what's really frustrating is that some boxes of models and their rules end up with the 'hot dogs and buns problem' Where the number of a unit in a box doesn't line up at all with the valid squad sizes I know there's some kind of walker-mech thing where the smallest allowed squad is 3 but they come in packs of 2 If all you care about is assembling and painting some cool models, then you don't need to bother with that