The Warriors Didn’t Need Kevin Durant.

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Sporting Logically

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@tyleralmquist7606
@tyleralmquist7606 2 жыл бұрын
I’d argue that Wiggins is actually incredibly consistent offensively. Almost always in the 16-19 points range
@MrE_
@MrE_ 2 жыл бұрын
And defensively it's exactly what the warriors need
@REALmknj
@REALmknj 2 жыл бұрын
Whats his per 48 number
@boze7180
@boze7180 2 жыл бұрын
He fits very well into the system they run. Also, I hadn’t really noticed how solid he was on the defensive end. He’s really shown up in the playoffs where they needed him
@sergiogarcia4266
@sergiogarcia4266 2 жыл бұрын
@@boze7180 he wasn’t solid defensively in Minnesota but I feel like being traded like woke him up in a sense to try harder he realized he wasn’t as prized as he once was and needs to actually improve
@animefanatic2674
@animefanatic2674 2 жыл бұрын
Death, taxes and Andrew Wiggins 17 points
@Viejitz87
@Viejitz87 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy for wiggins. You can look at how much he smiles on the court everygame.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Glad for Iggy, though he's not getting the Minutes ... They brought him back where he belongs ...
@johnjones7023
@johnjones7023 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t have to carry a team on his own rather help a team
@JP-ks7ey
@JP-ks7ey 2 жыл бұрын
same, going from a number 1 pick that everyone called a bust, to what he is now is great and that guy is obviously enjoying himself with that big smile of his
@livingfailure7838
@livingfailure7838 2 жыл бұрын
I love that he's all smiles. He's so selfless and I'm glad he was able to shine. I'm glad Iggy Is back too. He def was important in helping mold the youngsters and we even saw him passing knowledge to Wiggins.
@hatebush1234
@hatebush1234 2 жыл бұрын
I think you could argue if Wiggins was still in Minnesota he would've been traded this previous trade deadline and become a journeyman, never find his confidence, and become an average role player on a bad team GS was the best thing to happen to him
@maxpower9175
@maxpower9175 2 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@montana01
@montana01 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a good nba player, and I think there could have been other good options for him. Salary aside. Could have came to the east to a team with some depth and still be a #1/2 option. Boston, Chicago, Miami, Mil, Atl, or even a team like Utah. Certainly some fits are better than others, but he’s too good to just be some guy. Worst case scenario he just goes to like Orlando/Sacramento and is there best player on a horrible team similar to Minne.
@chaiinspace2
@chaiinspace2 2 жыл бұрын
I think he's #3, #4 option here. Might not do so well if he was higher. I don't see him as a #1 option anywhere. Even as a #2 option, hard to think where.
@rockabye_baby187
@rockabye_baby187 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they talk like Kevin is just another guy. It's hard AF to win back to back Finals MVPs if youre just some guy. Like Brad Beal would be able to do things Kevin does and does so with ease. Don't get me wrong I've always respected the Warriors for being able to compete in the same era dominated by LeBron, but this notion that they didn't need Kevin? LMFAO well, if that were true they would've won the title in 2016 too. They would've won the title in 2019, when Toronto beat them. Just another guy, huh? LMFAO
@heromiIes
@heromiIes 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why he's not leaving.
@tau_628
@tau_628 2 жыл бұрын
The Warriors are so fun to watch. Whether you like them or not you should just appreciate getting to see this unique style of basketball.
@Martoto94
@Martoto94 2 жыл бұрын
I for one am sick to death of them.
@ICONOCLAST
@ICONOCLAST 2 жыл бұрын
Selfless ball isn’t really classified as unique but it’s sure amazing to see anytime.
@ivespoken8902
@ivespoken8902 2 жыл бұрын
@@ICONOCLAST nah it is just called BASKETBALL in it's purity :)
@Downbubbles2
@Downbubbles2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Martoto94 Why? Is it because they’ve been so successful for so long? Sure I can understand it but as a basketball fan I’m happy for the warriors to see them succeed after two years of missing the playoffs and I can get to see some beautiful basketball. So I’m happy with it.
@pinoymasabaw7857
@pinoymasabaw7857 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@timskaggs3762
@timskaggs3762 2 жыл бұрын
Golden State is definitely the model franchise now. Top to bottom. As a Spurs fan, if I had my choice of who replaced Pop when he retires, it would be, hands down, Steve Kerr (not that I’m actually expecting it to happen). I’ve met him in person. He’s an outstanding human being!
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the culture mirrors the Spurs a lot. But Lukas Mavs also Mirror Dirks Mavs.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Do think Andre Ig____ how ever you spell it. Will makes a good coach? I do.
@aryanvenkata3047
@aryanvenkata3047 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud yes. Andre is a basketball mind. He’s also pretty vocal and I’m sure he’s a good mentor. He would be a great coach.
@loicthiant7448
@loicthiant7448 2 жыл бұрын
I was rooting 4 Becky Hammond to take his place . I dunno why she doesn't have job in the Association she can really coach . But damn to be a Spurs's fans fucking sucks rn and believe me i hurt like a mothafucka .
@timskaggs3762
@timskaggs3762 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud Totally agree with both statements!
@justacartkid69
@justacartkid69 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins isn't a scrub and was always hyped being a number 1 pick. Doesn't have Durant hype, but his career might've been considered a bust if he never went to GSW.
@Giganticonion
@Giganticonion 2 жыл бұрын
He did have durant hype coming out of college
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think Jordan Poole stepped into the KD vacancy.
@Nazoto
@Nazoto 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Giganticonion more like he have Jordan hype... Even Kobe compared himself to him when he was young
@WidgetWagyu47292
@WidgetWagyu47292 2 жыл бұрын
@@Giganticonion Yea your right he had Micheal Jordan hype no joke every one thought he was gonna be the next biggest thing since LeBron.
@Zephlynnation
@Zephlynnation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud You right cause in the regular season at a lot of times Jordan Poole was carrying even when curry was out
@ChampagneGars
@ChampagneGars 2 жыл бұрын
I remember people used to clown Wiggins for being lazy as hell, but even then he still puts up 20 PPG while doing so. The man is just effortlessly talented.
@BDRmongoose
@BDRmongoose 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was more of the Timberwolves culture that fostered that laziness/lack of drive. They are just fine making there big paychecks and winning isn't as important. At GSW they hold him/each other accountable for that work you put in and the way you play.
@JP-ks7ey
@JP-ks7ey 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is when you draft players you can't expect them to get better on their own, which is what wolves we're doing expected players to develop on their own, but warriors, being the team that they are take players and find their strengths and use it and help players improve
@spicyshizz2850
@spicyshizz2850 2 жыл бұрын
@@BDRmongoose i can’t tell if ur trolling.
@BDRmongoose
@BDRmongoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@spicyshizz2850 nope; GSW culture>timberwolves culture
@ikefromsmashbros9237
@ikefromsmashbros9237 2 жыл бұрын
The way they play is the epitome of what basketball was meant to be. Their offense is built on equal distribution of touches and well-thought-out ball movement and their defense is coordinated and balanced. Naismith would have been proud.
@Ttcopp12rt
@Ttcopp12rt 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah 💯
@jcdalusongstories
@jcdalusongstories 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. During the 20-21 season when Steph was the only healthy "main" player, he was the scoring champion. He scored a lot because he was the only one who could consistently do it. This season, he did not need to score as much because he had the help of everyone else. That is why some nights it was Steph, sometimes it was Poole, sometimes Wiggins, sometimes Klay. This is what I loved about the Spurs basketball during the Duncan-Ginobili-Parker era.
@darthvirgin7157
@darthvirgin7157 2 жыл бұрын
Durant leaving (and all those injuries in those two years) was a godsend for the Warriors. without those situations, they wouldn’t have gotten that young core (Kuminga, Moody, and Wiseman), Wiggins, and a chance to develop Poole and Looney in those two years. and they got jems in GP3, Porter, Beli, JTA.
@westcoast9285
@westcoast9285 2 жыл бұрын
If wiseman comes back next year and can take a step forward it’ll be worth it because he infuses a whole new element of versatility to a very versatile squad. They should be considered favorites for a chip this year
@westcoast9285
@westcoast9285 2 жыл бұрын
And next year tbh. They’ve got too much talent bursting at the seems
@johnjones7023
@johnjones7023 2 жыл бұрын
Looney told Wiseman your next to carry this team when he’s done
@westcoast9285
@westcoast9285 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones7023 looney is resigning it looks like so Warriors are gonna be scary deep at full health
@johnjones7023
@johnjones7023 2 жыл бұрын
@@westcoast9285I really hope so but lets be real Warriors can’t offer Looney a big contract that he could get elsewhere so I won’t be upset if he leaves cause this man deserve a good contract higher than what he made last season
@user-gc3qj7md8c
@user-gc3qj7md8c 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the team that won 73 games and was up 3-1 in the finals *didn’t* need another MVP caliber player…. I’m shocked.
@chrome450
@chrome450 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂hope your team will succeed someday so that you will not be salty.
@JRRU28
@JRRU28 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrome450 true. He can continue to hate for the rest of his life
@formerlyknownaseasrob
@formerlyknownaseasrob 2 жыл бұрын
The only year they truly needed it was that first year with CP3 and Harden firing on all cylinders in Houston
@user-gc3qj7md8c
@user-gc3qj7md8c 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrome450 The Warriors are my team, Steph is my favorite player in the NBA. I disliked the KD era because it made the game uncompetitive, and I felt it had a chance to hurt Curry's all time legacy.
@jnmc2498
@jnmc2498 2 жыл бұрын
The warriors were hunted by injuries and many of them were serious ones. KD achilles, Klay two leg injuries, Curry breaking his hand, Draymond nagging injuries etc. People were quick to judge them and write them off, and now when the core of Steph-Klay-Draymond is back and fully healthy all they need is to have a few solid pieces around them to become the major contender. Wiggins, Poole etc. are not only solid pieces, but great. If Wiseman could become as good as anticipated… the sky is the limit.
@robertjackson7904
@robertjackson7904 2 жыл бұрын
Give it time, they had to build looney to where he is now
@728huey
@728huey 2 жыл бұрын
They were incredibly "bad" in 2020, but then again KD had left (and even if he had re-signed with the Warriors, he wouldn't have been available anyway), Klay was hurt, Steph broke his hand in the first week of the season, Draymond Green had off and on injuries, and they played with a bunch of scrubs all season. 2021 was almost as bad, though they did make it to the play-in games, but they came back this season like a lot of people thought they would, though I don't think they expected them to be a title contender this season. If Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole, and Kevin Looney can continue to p,ay up to their potential, and if they can develop James Wiseman into a reliable big man, they could still contend for titles for the next few years.
@NPI-iz7bg
@NPI-iz7bg 2 жыл бұрын
No one beat GSW with healthy trio
@rattusgrenadus8291
@rattusgrenadus8291 2 жыл бұрын
@@728huey ya kinda just repeated what the original comment said
@jackflashh2240
@jackflashh2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@NPI-iz7bg golden state hasn't beat a healthy team this whole post season, we don't want no excuses bro
@therealneal3034
@therealneal3034 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. We all knew they didn’t need him. That’s why everyone was pissed that he went there 🤣
@theyhate4L
@theyhate4L 2 жыл бұрын
this comment right here 😭😭
@UV980
@UV980 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Warriors fan and I thought this in 2016; my initial reaction to getting KD was "we don't need him on our team, we just need him to not be on another team" after the 2016 OKC series
@latortugapicante719
@latortugapicante719 2 жыл бұрын
Durant ruined the golden age of nba basketball with that move
@beholdson7132
@beholdson7132 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people forget what it took to beat that 2016 warriors team. Two all time performances by bron and kyrie. I’ve never seen kyrie play that well in the postseason since. I’d say you run that series back and more times than not the warriors win when everyone is fully healthy.
@fridayvan-defoe6987
@fridayvan-defoe6987 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget Draymond was suspended one game and then Klay picked the worst possible time to go cold
@nicksatwr4538
@nicksatwr4538 2 жыл бұрын
@@fridayvan-defoe6987 and Steph ws son a sparined mcl Barnes klay and iggy and Shaun forgot how to shoot
@Eschatonx
@Eschatonx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot happened in the Cavs favor that year for them to win it. But it was a long term benefit for the warriors
@javierlandaverde4108
@javierlandaverde4108 2 жыл бұрын
You also needed a Draymond Green suspension.
@javierlandaverde4108
@javierlandaverde4108 2 жыл бұрын
Also needed Andrew Bogut to go down when JR slammed into his knees.
@DanielS-gv5nj
@DanielS-gv5nj 2 жыл бұрын
While yes, the Warriors made some great decicions and are outstanding in their player development, it helps that they have an owner who doesn't care about luxary tax allowing them to have three max contracts plus Green who is quite close to one. The warriors have a payroll this season of 178 Mio., which is by far the highest payroll in the league.
@xPepe1310
@xPepe1310 2 жыл бұрын
wiseman was so good before he got injured. now he just needs to recover
@joanmcerlean7158
@joanmcerlean7158 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Thank you. The Warriors are a superb organization.
@DabbingTaco
@DabbingTaco 2 жыл бұрын
Golden State now has a team for the near future. Wiggins, Poole, Looney, Kuminga, Wiseman, Moody. They also have 3 picks this draft (28th, 51st and 55th) so they have a chance to develop another player that’ll help their championship run.
@popselias
@popselias 2 жыл бұрын
No Looney
@Gambetdz
@Gambetdz 2 жыл бұрын
They also have nico manion rights
@AVB15
@AVB15 2 жыл бұрын
Why everyone acting like the Warriors have a good young core? They really don’t.
@trips963
@trips963 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine they win a ring beating the team that just swept you.
@Big_talks.
@Big_talks. 2 жыл бұрын
That’ll be the storyline of this year
@aneeshanand9621
@aneeshanand9621 2 жыл бұрын
That will never happen. Boston won’t lose to the warriors
@Big_talks.
@Big_talks. 2 жыл бұрын
@@aneeshanand9621 yeah you’d think that because of Boston’s talent but you gotta remember every sport is tainted
@aneeshanand9621
@aneeshanand9621 2 жыл бұрын
@@Big_talks. not only that but the Celtics are playing better and are more efficient on both ends of the court this season and playoffs.
@aneeshanand9621
@aneeshanand9621 2 жыл бұрын
@@Big_talks. plus the Celtics have the team that can match well with the Warriors. Brown, smart, and Tatum can lock up Steph, Klay, Wiggins, and Poole, while Robert Williams and Al Horford match well with Green and Looney.
@DoesRocksFloat
@DoesRocksFloat 2 жыл бұрын
Wiseman seeing all this and being with the team during the playoffs after he got shut down after his same injured knee swelling is going to be driving force for him. He’s on track to participate in his first full preseason workout and training. I still have high hopes he can be a contributor for the team.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely.... And they're going to need him. Because they don't have the cap room to keep Wiggins, Poole & Draymond one of them is gonna have to go.. Jordan Poole has played himself into a huge contract.
@Chrism7178
@Chrism7178 2 жыл бұрын
hes a bust
@DoesRocksFloat
@DoesRocksFloat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chrism7178 bust in yo momma
@KazeShikamaru
@KazeShikamaru 2 жыл бұрын
Wiseman is gonna be insane if he stays on the court.
@justice929
@justice929 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, all summer to work with Jokic coach and hit weight room, go through summer league, go through training camp, pre-season..
@johnjones7023
@johnjones7023 2 жыл бұрын
Missing the playoffs the past 2 seasons was a blessing for the Warriors cause they went to 5 straight finals so there bodies must recover and heal now there back baby recharge with new faces and building around that core 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@SuperSupersoda
@SuperSupersoda 2 жыл бұрын
For everyone who slanders James Wiseman, consider this stat: James Wiseman has played 836 total minutes for the warriors in his first two NBA seasons. Kevon Looney played 468 total minutes for the warriors in his first two seasons. Point? Wiseman is very young, and there's plenty of time, and Looney also had a very slow and very injury-plagued start to his career, and look at him now. The biggest difference in the WCF was that Mavs had no answer for Looney. If the warriors believe in a guy, they don't give up on him.
@lehoangnam1952
@lehoangnam1952 2 жыл бұрын
his potential is huge
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
@@lehoangnam1952 Yep... And he's in a situation with not a ton of pressure and great mentors
@lehoangnam1952
@lehoangnam1952 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud yes, not so many people have high expectation on him, partly because he is in a team with some all stars like gsw
@a1997
@a1997 2 жыл бұрын
If Wiseman can stay healthy for longer period of time and learn the warriors way of basketball, he's going to become massive. It’s really stupid that people discredit him because of his injuries when his talent is undeniable.
@evilmonkeyspeaks7801
@evilmonkeyspeaks7801 2 жыл бұрын
Played a few games in the g-league late in the season and you could tell how much Wiseman had developed physically. Big stuff coming from that kid......
@josueguillen4111
@josueguillen4111 2 жыл бұрын
As a Lakers fan. I’m so jealous of the Warriors front office for not panicking. Sticking with their guys and trusting their scouting department. The Lakers could’ve had this. They have a great scouting department to find those significant guys late in drafts or undrafted, Kuzma, Caruso, Clarkson, Zubac, Hart, are all impact players that were found late in the drafts. But they panic and deal too fast. Hell, they win a championship and changed half the roster the very next season. Imagine had they not traded for Schroder, they were targeting a guy like Desmond Bane with that pick before they traded it, imagine if they would’ve trusted a coach to Integrate their system like they should’ve with Tyron Lue who would have the balls to tell AD to play the 5 and develop Kuz into the 3&D player he’s currently developing into that would’ve been the perfect 4 to the James and AD 3 and 5. Or appreciated guys that had been committed to the franchise that weee unsung heroes like KCP? But noooooo, they always gotta panic and make a big move for the sake of the big move, not for basketball. They could be rolling with a roster with James, Davis, Kuzma, KCP, Caruso, Bane, McGee etc… under a coach like Lue and the staff of his choosing? Smh. I hate our ownership
@mjwaldrep
@mjwaldrep 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hawks fan, I just hope that Travis Schlenk, who came from Golden State, can build a contender like the Warriors have. Maybe in the next five years?
@jskmbtr
@jskmbtr 2 жыл бұрын
They need to surround Trae with a better supporting cast. Miami locked him down and there was nothing he could do.
@jorgethegreat
@jorgethegreat 2 жыл бұрын
@@jskmbtr true, but Curry's playstyle is different from Trae especially off-ball. Trae doesn't command the fear past half court. The culture of selflessness should be embodied too. And...their team gameplay.
@javierlandaverde4108
@javierlandaverde4108 2 жыл бұрын
They don't have as well an enforcer and defensive key player like Draymond.
@rajaalahmar4371
@rajaalahmar4371 2 жыл бұрын
your channel is really great and you are consistently uploading great content
@OslerWannabe
@OslerWannabe 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that players like Looney, Wiggins and others look underwhelming when assessed by the yardstick of conventional NBA Heroball, the isolation variant of the game in which each team has at least one "Superstar" whose job it is to flaunt all of his individual skills while the rest of the team takes a break, pops a brew and watches. However, if they happen to be playing the Warriors, they're getting a demonstration of how the game SHOULD be played, while their "superstar" is tapping out. What Steve Kerr and the Warriors have proven is that a TEAM of highly intelligent low ego players will beat a "superstar"-centric team-ish collection of petulent little boys. And they will continue to do so until the rest of the league catches on.
@thomaschen9439
@thomaschen9439 2 жыл бұрын
For me, they don’t need KD at the first place, they’re just one win away for another championship which they blew out in 2016.
@justice929
@justice929 2 жыл бұрын
JUST HEALTH
@felipecouto1102
@felipecouto1102 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors: Make the Finals twice before KD, win it once, gets 1 game away from Back-to-Back, then make the finals again after KD Mainstream Media: THE WARRIORS NEEDED KD
@Ckproduction03
@Ckproduction03 2 жыл бұрын
They did….. that Warriors team without KD was not beating the 2017 Cavs or the 2017 Rockets and the 2018 Rockets. I don’t even think this is debatable either
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ckproduction03 no way to prove that
@ernestoortiz1523
@ernestoortiz1523 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ckproduction03 they won a chip before KD and will do after Lmaoo but they need kd? Take the glasses off bro your blind af
@felipecouto1102
@felipecouto1102 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ckproduction03 The 2017 Cavs were not that different from the 2016 ones that were down 3-1. The Rockets its a conversation, since they were consistent on being inconsistent against the Warriors, from having them on the strings with KD and choking to getting manhandled by GSW without KD
@billalzerouali4436
@billalzerouali4436 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestoortiz1523 yea against a cavs with no love or kyrie and still took 6 games
@martino5742
@martino5742 2 жыл бұрын
It is well known that the lineup is called PTSD+W
@sankhya_0461
@sankhya_0461 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to you reminded me of the heyday of Barcelona. They also chose players with a specific type of DNA: good with the ball and intelligent on the field. And the most important part is the "Tiki - Taka" or passing the ball as much as they can and holding the possession and then pressing. Granted they had the best player of all time in Lionel Messi, but it was their youth academy "La Masia" which gave them home grown talent for success. Now compare them with Golden State, they also drafted well(kinda like home grown talent) chose players with a specific type of DNA and having a dynamic style of play. Heck they even have a Pep Guordiola(the manager of Barcelona) in the form of Steve Kerr. The resemblance is truly uncanny. I now understand why they are both my favourite teams, even through the ups and downs.
@funkytiger8683
@funkytiger8683 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly that's where the similarity ends. While GSW have the ideal front office that used trades very effectively to build on what they drafted, the Barcelona board in general has shot itself with a fucking assault rifle with all the bad transfers lol, and Bartomeu might have been the single worst President/GM of any sports team in any era ever lol. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the Darth Vader to Florentino's Palpatine sent to destroy Barca from the inside.
@sankhya_0461
@sankhya_0461 2 жыл бұрын
@@funkytiger8683 Stop, I am already dead, it hurts. Jokes aside I will still support barca, lets hope xavi can breathe new life into the club.
@ronjie
@ronjie 2 жыл бұрын
The trade for D’Lo was really for the long game… i.e. to snag Wiggs. I’m still hopeful for Wiseman, plus add Kuminga, Poole, Moody, GP2, Looney, and Wiggs, yeah and D Lee and JTA. Future looks bright.
@gregorywilson2124
@gregorywilson2124 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins is a team player. This is the first real team he has played on. I’m so happy to see him in this position.
@otfpollo6792
@otfpollo6792 2 жыл бұрын
Straight facts, great vid bro.
@TheFocuslja
@TheFocuslja 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins is what Harrison Barnes was on the original squad
@hmrhuang
@hmrhuang 2 жыл бұрын
Classic example of the importance of HEALTH for players!
@kalginage
@kalginage 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, I think what makes the warriors different is their championship culture. we've seen so many guys go from average or even below average into key role players for the warriors championship run
@dimelo58
@dimelo58 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man
@Coachkingrod
@Coachkingrod 2 жыл бұрын
The Warriors never needed KD. He needed them. Point, Blank, Period. I don't want to hear the West is weaker. If it were that weak they would have at least been to the playoffs since 2019, which had not been the case. Stop the cap!
@Bryan-fb8dh
@Bryan-fb8dh 2 жыл бұрын
The whole Golden State system is without ego and full of people that work very hard to fill their roles. Ownership, management, coaching and players. They have a perfect business model and work culture. Everything and everyone act with professionalism and that is why they are successful.
@mattvalin1958
@mattvalin1958 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of hindsight bias going on here. Wiggins was pretty universally considered unworthy of his contract. I mean. The Warriors got him AND a first round pick for D-Lo.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
That's always gonna be the case. And it gets worse after the Finals. Hindsight GM's And Expert Fans .. You get glorified when you win, villianized when you lose .
@rattusgrenadus8291
@rattusgrenadus8291 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you arent making an argument for why wiggins was unworthy. If people felt that then they felt it, the video is saying his stats and play were not that bad for an early 20s first pick on a bad team with questionable offensive schemes. averaging 20 points in your first few years in the league is very good.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
@@rattusgrenadus8291 It wasn't his intent to make that argument. There's plenty of people building Strawman arguments in the comments attempting to sound more basketball knowledgeable the the next. He's saying "And correctly" that people are F.O.S And everyone's an expert with hindsight. But they never put their money where their mouth is, if they did Vegas would be broke .
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
@@rattusgrenadus8291 It's one of the Oldest Stories in American Culture. Cinderella
@rattusgrenadus8291
@rattusgrenadus8291 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud ...uh are you sober
@Boss-cj6zn
@Boss-cj6zn 2 жыл бұрын
I thought “Poole party” referred to just Poole himself. PTSD is the lineup name (Poole, Thompson, Steph, draymond)
@kennethmonday8382
@kennethmonday8382 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins was a very good player even at Timberwolves, although lazy in defense but people expected him to be the franchise player the number one option base on his draft prospect. I was very sure he was going to Excel as the 2nd or 3rd option in a contending team like gsw. Look at Kyrie Irving,he has struggled to elevate his team to championship as a number one option, not all very good players have the mamba Gene to lead a franchise to championship.
@ryanjohnson3414
@ryanjohnson3414 2 жыл бұрын
When your team is built around a top 25 all time player, especially one that is at the 1 or the 5, you'll be a contender no matter who you put around him.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Facts...
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Bro!? What do you think about Klay possibly having 4 rings, 6 Finals Appearances and an integral part of a Dynasty and not making the top 75?
@donwagner8126
@donwagner8126 2 жыл бұрын
I think that in the playoffs this year Golden State has shown that one player no matter how good will not make a team. Steph has redefined how basketball is played with much more 3 pointers, but he is number one a team player. In the last game when Moody made a key 3 pointer, he was cheering and had the whole place cheering. Without Draymond and Clay, Steph would have a much harder time.
@ryanjohnson3414
@ryanjohnson3414 2 жыл бұрын
@@Peakfreud Video game ratings and personality aside, would you have him as a franchise centerpiece and build a team around him? He's good dont get wrong, but ranking against all time greats in the top 75 is a huge stretch. He's barely top 15 in Warrior history let along the rest of the league.
@AVB15
@AVB15 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is like top 11 all time or something
@Splashus_Klay
@Splashus_Klay 2 жыл бұрын
I had no doubt Wiggs would flourish with Dubnation. He feels appreciated and doesn't feel pressure when Steph, Klay and Dray are along side him on the floor
@cookingwitchefzayy8830
@cookingwitchefzayy8830 2 жыл бұрын
Serious question if the warriors win the championship what does that mean for KD rings are they worth nothing?
@mihir702
@mihir702 2 жыл бұрын
Yes KD is invalidated, it’ll be beautiful
@ixg1297
@ixg1297 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think any ring is worth nothing but it will be a hit on his legacy
@dysonproudfoot6865
@dysonproudfoot6865 2 жыл бұрын
He's left 3 seasons ago he's brought harden, blake, griffin, Aldridge, kyrie, Simmons and Drummond all to the nets and warriors are winning the chip this year he means nothing his move to CSW took away his all time great status and after this season he's just another guy James worthy type guy Overrated asfuck.
@SportingLogically
@SportingLogically 2 жыл бұрын
Same as it’s always been. Until he gets one somewhere else they won’t matter to most people
@Wickedtingzz
@Wickedtingzz 2 жыл бұрын
A ring is a ring . He in an nba champion and it would be one thing if he was just apart of the team . But he was the driving force and won back to back finals mvp. People just hate on KD because it’s popular to call him a snake … which he isn’t because he left in free agency and it’s been PROVEN russel Westbrook can’t be a teammate if you want to win a championship or get past the 1st round … People just mad cuz warriors killed everyone for 5 years . Sure it’s not the same as a Detroit pistons in 04 or kawhi leading raptors or something . But … Golden state warriors literally needed KD to have a chance to beat lebron cuz they knew after 2016 they wouldn’t be able to beat him . And look how he played . Lebron balled out but his team sucked , he carried bench and g leaguers to the finals lol
@aetv2595
@aetv2595 2 жыл бұрын
'We don't need you' Draymond words coming true😂😂
@iamwhatiam187
@iamwhatiam187 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody knew Draymond was right
@abyssalgodsword
@abyssalgodsword 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Kerr deserves more flowers, his ability to plug his guys in to a role they buy into and succeed in, is insane
@ansonshrestha3646
@ansonshrestha3646 2 жыл бұрын
Give props to GSW management team! My word the people in this franchise knows exactly what they were doing and what they needed. Giving KD and acquiring DLo to trade him for Wiggins hands down was a chad move. Steph, Klay and Dremond being the core of Dubs and building a team which compliments everyone and not revolve around only one player. Honestly we are watching a dynasty reclaiming their throne again.
@myishacausey6199
@myishacausey6199 2 жыл бұрын
💯. GS fan since 1989 here! Let me say I NEVER wanted KD I was hella mad that GS emptied their bench for ONE DUDE! 😡 HOWEVER I love KD as a player. Always have even in OKC. KD is basketball poetry. So once he was here I was excited! I didn’t want him to leave. TBH It’s really sad that things have come to all this BS. Because real talk, people in the Bay loved KD we accepted dude with open arms and all he wanted to do was hoop so he fit right in. I wish we could rewind and keep him or change the way he left.
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 2 жыл бұрын
Smart teams draft smart players. That's the Golden State Warriors in a nutshell.
@Ro-yl9tn
@Ro-yl9tn 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Durant is my favorite player and it does suck to see the warriors make it back to the finals without him. If they win this year, KD’s 2 rings will be widely diminished by everyone. He has a lot to prove still. Steph will be top 10 if they win again
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Phant0m0fwar
@Phant0m0fwar 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video tuck I think you got this KZbin this down
@lordgalahad
@lordgalahad 2 жыл бұрын
Don't count Wiseman out. I mean it took Joel Embiid 2 years to get back.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
Wiseman has great potential.. Anthony Davis also. Wiseman still has time and is with a great organization
@justice929
@justice929 2 жыл бұрын
YES, FUNNY HOW PEOPLE FORGET
@SwiftViper
@SwiftViper 2 жыл бұрын
We know, Kevin Durant needed the warriors
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, to get passed Lebron and Kyrie, I think the Warriors probably needed KD. Nowadays though, there is really no one in the East that can beat the Warriors with the addition of Wigs, JP, GP3, and the rest of the cast of characters. Looking forward though, I'd say the Warriors have a window to 3-peat if they can stay healthy. Warriors got lucky with picks and Steph being unselfish early in his career.
@fturla
@fturla 2 жыл бұрын
The Golden State Warriors are good because they built a team around the team concept and not simply one or two all star class players. The Warriors have a balanced offensive and defensive mindset that is integrated into getting talent from the top to the bottom of their roster and they did it without overpaying for talent or hunting for free agents. I do think the Celtics are the closest team to build a team with overall talent, but their depth is weaker on the bench.
@christophercregan6094
@christophercregan6094 2 жыл бұрын
i hoping for a Celtics/Warriors final. it'll be a classic Series!
@JB-kf2zs
@JB-kf2zs 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins is a great fit he doesn’t have to be the warriors 1st 2nd or 3rd option he can really play his role defend & get you 16 maybe 20 that’s good for him a guy everybody could use
@allthingsinvestingandfinance
@allthingsinvestingandfinance 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the warriors have a competent wing they can win… Doesn’t matter the name truly
@GotJon
@GotJon 2 жыл бұрын
And with James Wiseman coming back next season, they'll finally have a lob threat pared with draymond. I've seen way too many lob passes from Draymond to looney and then him just landing back down and getting fouled or stripped.
@joshuacabonce
@joshuacabonce 2 жыл бұрын
The Water Tribe. They coming to the Finals to quench our thirst for quality, efficient, unselfish play.
@t.sangrini
@t.sangrini 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins is perfect for them and I hope he stays, he always seemed happy to be there even before the chip he would always say that he loves being there and they are a family as if he's been there his whole career so that to me spoke volumes, I also heard he's very close with Draymond and their kids are close as well. Sometimes it takes the right situation to make you happen and bring the best out of you and pushes you to that next level because clearly we all knew he was very capable of this easily🤷🏽‍♀
@alfredbalurandavocol5769
@alfredbalurandavocol5769 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Kerr agenda game review for coaching Dubs 2015-2019 - Bulls Style 2020-present - Spurs Style
@LNERFlyingScotsman
@LNERFlyingScotsman 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite nickname for the Poole, Steph, Kay and Draymond lineup is P.T.S.D. Poole, Thompson, Steph, Draymond
@emmanuelmondesir1314
@emmanuelmondesir1314 2 жыл бұрын
PTSD Warriors Poole Thompson Steph Draymond Wiggins
@pinoyreformat
@pinoyreformat 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Kerr also dealing with back issues.
@sroland3533
@sroland3533 2 жыл бұрын
Hey with all said we really have to give some sort of Tribute to " Kevon Looney " for he is and has always Been Playing his Ass off for the GSW from the day he joined the teamed Especially During the Playoffs and NBA FINALS. ALWAYS
@nyillgriffin9923
@nyillgriffin9923 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggin isn't inconsistent anymore. Watch the whole season not just what's nationally televised.
@benndarayta9156
@benndarayta9156 2 жыл бұрын
Moody looking good too👀
@DScott-nk1lo
@DScott-nk1lo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I went to the same high school as Looney, we won like one game when I went there 15 years ago. Way to rep Mil-town Poole and Kevon
@marcarias448
@marcarias448 2 жыл бұрын
Championship wiggs was the best athlete on the floor against the Celtics... & here comes poole... Kominga... Wiseman... & moody...
@SealFredy5
@SealFredy5 2 жыл бұрын
One thing, Wiseman is not a replacement for Looney... Something that's so awesome about GS is that each player brings something unique, while still fitting in. That provides GS an enormous amount of flexibility to play a style their opponent can't match. That means they can go big, go small, attack the basket, or shoot 3s. GS has built a roster to do everything. Wiseman is the same thing. Looney is a very traditional big that sets picks. Wiseman is a stretch big that can *hopefully* be more athletic on defense as well. Looney's importantce comes against teams like Denver. They just need someone to bruise with Jokic for 20 minutes a night, and Looney does that.
@justice929
@justice929 2 жыл бұрын
Most NBA teams have 3 centers, GS will have Green, Looney, Wiseman next year.
@manuelezz1
@manuelezz1 2 жыл бұрын
If warriors win another ring Steve Kerr has to be brought up in the conversation Of one of the best coaches ever
@dominicbonora6099
@dominicbonora6099 2 жыл бұрын
Inconsistent offensively? WTF?
@macbowie8611
@macbowie8611 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin knew that Warriors Didn’t Need Him 😂😂😂💯💯💯
@dapumpking7202
@dapumpking7202 2 жыл бұрын
Best basketball chanel
@anthonytitone
@anthonytitone 2 жыл бұрын
Outsiders never understood what made the Warriors so great to begin with, they drafted young talent and traded for veteran role players, I can’t understand why anyone expected Wiggins to fail with the Dubs when all they needed was a wing, he doesn’t have a ton of pressure on him which gives him more of a chance to shine
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone not Named Mark Jackson understood... To be honest.
@popselias
@popselias 2 жыл бұрын
Wiseman is training with Dejan Milojevic. He trained Nikola Jokic. Joe Lacob wanted the Warriors to draft "The Joker". He has an eye for talent. The Warriors took two years to develop Jordan Poole at an easier position than center. Wiseman, as told by Draymon Green, didn't even know how to set a screen when he came to Warriors. The Warriors offense is very complicated. Wiseman sitting and learning is the best thing for him and the Warriors. Bill Russell, Bill Walton and Kareem Abdul Jabber were all 22 when they entered league. Jokic was drafted at 19 but didn't play for the Nuggets the year he was drafted. He stayed in the same league he was in that year, working with Dejan. Sometimes you have to let soup simmer for it to really really good.
@PichaPiProjects
@PichaPiProjects 2 жыл бұрын
GS went from rock bottom to the top. They knew they needed to have some changes in their roster, and the sky is the limit for them. This organization is competent and patient. Not all teams are like that. They gotta commit to their players, coaches, and staffs. I do not like their fans, but I am happy for Steph (if they are gonna win the chip, I hope he is the Finals MVP) because casuals always think he is not a winner just because he does not have one. HE IS A WINNER.
@dobz746
@dobz746 2 жыл бұрын
GSW only got to bottom bcoz Klay was injured. And they got the #2 pick for it. And really this really just proved that Warriors got KD just to beat Lebron. No guts really. GSW would've beaten the Cavs even without KD. And GSW even had the guts to trash talk then SMH.
@PichaPiProjects
@PichaPiProjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@dobz746 yeah, Klay getting injured was one of the factors they went bottom but don't forget the fact that kd wasn't happy with them and age was starting to come over for the role players. GSW had to press the soft reboot button.
@juliusperseus8612
@juliusperseus8612 2 жыл бұрын
Still Should Have Traded Wiseman and JTA For Veterans. They basically have No second Stringer. Wiseman Non Sens fans, don't @ me, cause IDGAF !
@ZOKKYBOI
@ZOKKYBOI 2 жыл бұрын
*everyone laughs about Wiggins being an All-star* Wiggins: I took that personally *Poster dunks on Luka*
@kam3410
@kam3410 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins only had 1 teammate senior to him that demanded perfection and that was Butler who was the worst example of the leadership needed for a personality like Wiggins. Steph, Draymond, and Kerr put Wiggins in a comfortable place to grow and fit what he could CONSISTENTLY play.
@Trejohnsmith
@Trejohnsmith 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t talk about that. Even Kat is finding himself and is a top 5 big man and the best shooting big man and Wiggs is the two way wing we all knew he could be. Sometimes tough leadership is not what’s needed because everyone is different.
@gunmuratilban8667
@gunmuratilban8667 2 жыл бұрын
That's just unfair. With Durant, they were arguably the strongest team ever formed in the NBA while now they're not even favorites to win the title. If Durant stayed in Golden State, they'd be decisive favorites to win both last year and this year.
@illumnai1526
@illumnai1526 2 жыл бұрын
Not the favourites? how. they are destroying the mavs and most people think they're gonna win
@jeremy_yzy1275
@jeremy_yzy1275 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your the type of guy to take every statement too seriously and no one wants to hang out with
@beefboy3357
@beefboy3357 2 жыл бұрын
They are definitely the favorites. They weren’t before the playoffs but out of the last four teams they definitely are.
@refkiriswansyah2830
@refkiriswansyah2830 2 жыл бұрын
KD is always an insurance for them. Not the driving force. They always use KD as an alternative scoring option when their shooter have off night or when they attract too much players to guard them, opening the space for easy bucket. Same like a springy shock breaker in a car. You don't necessarily need it to be able to drive, but it damn comforting to have it for just in case scenario where you go to uneven road. But he is not the engine, not the steering wheel, not the transmission, not even a tire. Putting him alone as a main guy in GSW wont make them be able to play the same style & system as the GSW we know with plenty of pass & off ball movement. It would be just your turn my turn iso ball. Because he's just not that dude.
@maximusorbis2548
@maximusorbis2548 2 жыл бұрын
The warriors are clearly the favorites. Unless you honestly think the shit show happening in the eastern conference finals is the best lmao. Go back to sniffing bath salts
@TheZoan007
@TheZoan007 2 жыл бұрын
Must teams drafy players based on their potential to be stars. The Warriors draft players based on their ability to learn the style of game that they want to use. This is the cause of their success, the consistency
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 2 жыл бұрын
Jaylen Brown next video Sporting Logically 🙏🙏🙏
@chill6789
@chill6789 2 жыл бұрын
Update Dubs beat the Mavs to win the WCF & advance to the FINALS
@xxtesenxx
@xxtesenxx 2 жыл бұрын
Death, taxes, and Wiggins getting 16-18 points every game.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 2 жыл бұрын
KD: Hey y'all you got room for 1 more?
@emmanuelmondesir1314
@emmanuelmondesir1314 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they have the easiest path to a ring is ridiculous. Dynasty indeed.
@Schi8694
@Schi8694 2 жыл бұрын
What rebuild? The dynasty core is still there and playing well. Once they go into a major decline/retire, then we’ll see. Btw, Wiggins is doing exactly as I expected.
@Leodoesthings23
@Leodoesthings23 2 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that for all of 2021, Tucker was telling us the the Warriors HAD to trade their young pieces and picks for another star to ever make it back to the finals. Glad we’re past that era
@SportingLogically
@SportingLogically 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the L on the Wiggins trade stuff. It seemed like that was the path they wanted to take. Poole becoming the secondary scorer they needed kind of made the adding another star at the cost of wing depth thing a bad move.
@soleil3gs
@soleil3gs 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins defense has truly been impressive to me. Dude picked up Luka full court every game every second Luka was on the floor. He is a beast
@mareklame8589
@mareklame8589 2 жыл бұрын
GSW "big three" obviously needed quality defender & 3-pt shooter at the small forward spot to succeed. Quality means at least borderline all-star.
@KingstonHawke
@KingstonHawke 2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins has always been nice. He’s not Durant (obviously). But he’s basically a better version of Barnes, who played a huge role in their original championship run. A wing that can really defend, can finish on the break, can shoot that corner 3 consistently, and can randomly get hot and go for 30… how many of those are in the league? Mavs would willingly pay the max for someone like Wiggins.
@chrishanson7911
@chrishanson7911 2 жыл бұрын
Credit to the Golden State braintrust they saw the same things I saw of Andrew and looked at the films. Yes they saw a overpaid player that was a undervalued by Minnesota.I believe once KD decided to leave and go to Nets and knowing Minnesota was interested in Russell who they overvalued to keep Karl happy. Russell was just the chip to get Wiggins who they wanted from the get go.I knew Wiggins was going to fit perfectly because his skill set and physical attributes filled a void or blind spot and did not overlap other players on the team.
@terrancemoore496
@terrancemoore496 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute it's not over yet! They just won the WCF. They previous did that before without K.D. Playing the Celtics or the Heat (fully Healthy) will be a different animal than the Western teams.
@mikey-kun6225
@mikey-kun6225 2 жыл бұрын
Yes in 2022 warriors didn't need kd but way back in 2017 to 2018 warriors need kd so much because warriors can't stop prime lebron
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, other organizations are jealous, especially the Lakers with their two white elephants at the moment.
@hoppy23
@hoppy23 2 жыл бұрын
Klay is just as important now he's streaky. But game 6 vs Memphis we wouldn't have won without klay and last night we wouldn't have won without klay
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