The Water Will Come | Jeff Goodell

The ocean is not just filling up, it’s swelling up. Half of sea-level rise comes just from the warming of the water. No matter what humans do next, we are now doomed to deal with drastically higher flooding of the world's coasts every year for decades, possibly centuries. Nearly half of humanity lives near coasts. Many of our greatest cities, and their infrastructure, will have to deal with the ever-rising waters.
Some coasts in the world are already experiencing what is coming for every coast soon. Jeff Goodell's reports from those places are doubly grim. The harm is already huge, but the response of local people is even more disturbing. With few exceptions, they and their governments refuse to accept that the problem is permanent and will keep getting worse. Those most affected by global warming-rich and poor-remain perversely in denial about it.
There’s lots of talk, but humanity is doing almost nothing to adapt to sea level rise. So far.
Jeff Goodell is author of The Water Will Come: Rising Seas, Sinking Cities, and the Remaking of the Civilized World (2017), How To Cool the Planet (2010), and Big Coal (2006).
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[@TheBwerts1]

The heartbreaking part is that the ones who really need to see and understand this won't. 4 years, 19,000 views, 281 likes.

[@erikfrederiksen7775]

It was a lot longer than 10 years ago that we knew that Antarctica is a much bigger problem than Greenland. In 1968 John Mercer warned that the West Antarctic ice sheet was a problem for sea level rise, that it could go away within 100 years due to "Industrial pollution of the atmosphere". He noted that the "rate of release of its ice into the ocean could prove catastrophic".

[@DrSmooth2000]

Pro aerosol pollution

[@Rene-uz3eb]

Greenland seems to be a much bigger and near problem for the ocean circulation

[@DrSmooth2000]

@@Rene-uz3eb at 8.5 I saw Greenland as (summer?) ice free in 2300's at +2 it was Y9K Y-5K being equidistant in time, iirc, that was the time pigs were being domesticated in Asia and evidence of the wheel in several sports of Eurasia. AMOC and May freezes are my concerns. Which are interrelated but not ice sheet preservationist per se.

[@roberttorrie2651]

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[@chinookvalley]

I wouldn't worry about the realtors... I live in southern Colorado. The realtors lie at every opportunity. Our soils are contaminated, our wells are contaminated and going dry, our forests are tinder waiting to ignite, meth and heroin are next door, ... When I asked at a realtor's meeting if they would disclose about the ranchers who run their cattle across your land destroying everything in their path, and about the quarries and mines in our area whose work is rocking our foundations, plumbing, knocking pictures off the walls and china from the cupboards - I was casually told, "buyer beware".

[@geofflewis8599]

..between @ 14,000ya and @7,000ya..sea levels rose by around 130m globally. Sometimes at the rate of about 1m every 25 years. This has happened @ 22 times in the past 2.6 million years ..but then there weren't 8 Billion people with settlements at sea level..

[@aidafortner257]

This is very nice to stay informed ( I’m definitely leaving Miami now)

[@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu]

Look ino scientific facts not writers fiction. You won't have to move.

[@lakeratatouille]

It's about an agenda of control

[@havenmist2216]

Barrack Obama is moving, to a sea side mansion in Hawaii he's building.

[@rapauli]

Important, must see. Thank you. More please.

[@carlaheimerl6900]

It's too late, our way of life is over. We have to adapt to a new reality. We have done it before. Head for high ground and build an earth home.

[@andywomack3414]

Another way of saying being rich is the defense against the ravages of a changing climate.

[@richdiana3663]

We may be over soon.

[@Aggrobiscuit]

Video finishes Google pushes propaganda in autoplay EVERY. SINGLE. TIME

[@andywomack3414]

So, observations documenting the effects of climate change in the present and the past are faked? That the theorized effects of CO2 demonstrated by experiment and observed correlation with global temperature is not true? The climate shit is hitting the fan now, and you are facing that fan with your mouth wide open. I do agree that Google does push propaganda, usually aligned to the neoliberal order when it goes to autoplay.

[@f4d3r_tv]

Don't look up! Great lecture!

[@TheNMartist]

Not mentioned is the subject of overshoot. All the adaptations mentioned maintain energy demands and depletion of natural resources.

[@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu]

getting a head start...when the 3 degrees horror stories fail....why not move on the water catastrphes

[@Rene-uz3eb]

The irony seems to be other than sea level rise the collapse of the antarctic outer sheet wouldn't have any impact on ocean life or carbon sequestration or global warming. And it's a hundred years away, and ocean front owners aren't a significant voting block.

[@rodmartin-nl8ns]

What do we do l have just stopped smoking

[@OldScientist]

Sea level appears to be rising at a small 3mm per year. Atolls in the Pacific nations of the Marshall Islands and Kiribati, as well as the Maldives archipelago in the Indian Ocean, have risen up to 8 percent in size (Ford and Kench, 2020). 89% of the globe’s islands and 100% of large islands have stable or growing coasts (Duvat, 2019). No island larger than 10ha decreased in size. As regards NOAA tide gauge data, let's look at some examples from around the world. N.B. All sites show a linear Relative Sea Level Trend: Kanmen, China 2.40mm/yr; Sydney, Australia 0.75mm/yr; Ferandina Beach, Florida 2.20mm/yr; Los Angeles, California 1.04mm/yr; Mera, Japan 3.8mm; Cascais, Portugal 1.32mm/yr. Remember, all linear over many decades, or more than a century. No acceleration (or deceleration for that matter). Anyway, if you prefer satellite data NOAA's trend was +3.0mm/year Global Mean Sea Level (1993-2022), again linear last time I looked (but hey, it may have accelerated in the last month). NASA satellite data (1993-present) for Global Mean Sea Level shows a linear rise of 3.3mm per year. That's the same as two stacked penny coins. No acceleration, so no relationship to the exponential increase in CO2 in the atmosphere. It's going to be decades before even your big toe is submerged.

[@elizabethwinsor5140]

Fear porn !

[@sixvee5147]

“I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation. I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C.” - Sultan Al Jaber, President of COP 28, also CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company Mukhtar Babayev will be the president for COP 29; he is also a former executive of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijian Republic. Seems more and more likely, scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment may come to fruition (or at least the higher end of the spectrum). I say enjoy what you can, while you still can; pity the generations to come.

[@jimslens]

Observations, but not science.

[@pavelsmith2267]

It's true! Tech optimism is generally scorned; by the mas population. So, it didn't come true; tech has some value. Some value, it has a retrograde half-life; to the greater detriment. There are some facts of life which go unvalued in the modern world of technology; retribution.

[@chrismullin8304]

1:16:43 In a nutshell.

[@gqftoast]

What a horrible background behind him it makes it really hard for me to watch.

[@donniemoder1466]

The sound is not the greatest either. If you have a host talking whose throat is full of flem and has a little bit of a speech impediment, you need better audio so he can be understood.

[@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu]

he's worse to listen to...phoney

[@kimweaver1252]

@@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu Says you, who is an ignoramus.

[@rtexpress357]

Wishing you didn’t say that now I’m too aware😢try to listen but refer to visuals which he cues verbally

[@pavelsmith2267]

Heat generated from mental activity. We are obsessed. Possessed by this Sloth and the final demise therein. Climate Change combined with the social media proclivity the world does indeed possess means we have failed. We all immediately fail the initial test quotient. As a citizen of the world I am forced to fail with you. So, side by side we fail unanimously. #Welcome All #Manhattan Project

[@havenmist2216]

The water will come? It has risen 120 meters in the last 20,000 years ... the water is already here. Now its only rising veeeery slowly at a steady rate. The sea has risen 23cm (8 inches) since 1880. The sea level is rising is 1.8 mm (0.7 inches) per year in 2023. I listened very careful to see if you would mention that yearly current sea level rise. You didn't. But you did mention your books, several times.

[@grindupBaker]

"sea level is rising is 1.8 mm (0.7 inches) per year in 2023". Liar. 2010-2023 globally-averaged sea level rise (SLR) has been 4.2 mm / year, not 1.8 mm / year. You've no excuse, that measurement is all over the internet.

[@havenmist2216]

@@grindupBaker As of 2023 sea levels have risen 21-24 centimetres since 1880. I'm sure you can do the math but if not ... 23-24 cm in 143 years = 1.67 mm per year. Where I live, on the East Coast of Australia, sea levels are rising at 0.8 mm/year, about what they have for over 100 years. And you know the funny thing .. this continent moves 70mm a year North due to tectonic forces. Isn't that interesting?

[@thomasmazanec977]

The SLR is accelerating each decade, from almost zero 1880 to four mm per year now.

[@havenmist2216]

@@thomasmazanec977 An estimated 3.4 mm/yr (current as set by NASA) is almost zero compared to post ice age levels (15mm/yr). And the rate of sea level rise in 1880 was estimated at 1.6 mm/yr. Its a bad metric to scare people with as we can see the coast and compare the level with previous decades. I don't know of anyone who has seen a change in sea levels with their eyes in their lifetime.

[@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu]

He's a book seller. Fiction no less.

[@hooliorama]

Please say Antarctica right. It’s not Antartica.

[@charlietingley4357]

Pendant

[@althaeacorn]

Agreed, but its pedant

[@havenmist2216]

Carper

[@theuktoday4233]

The sun has so much to answer for.

[@cg986]

Venus laughs in your face.

[@mochiebellina8190]

blame greta toonbird

[@lakeratatouille]

The sea is not rising at an overwhelming rate. Florida is subsiding also.

[@kimweaver1252]

Umm, no Florida is on rather solid karst. The central portion is slightly subsiding, but the coasts are being flooded by sea level rise. The rate of rise is overwhelming at geologic time scales, less so in human scale. Faster than at any time in recorded history.

[@MrSammer1972]

​@kimweaver1252 look up meltwater pulse 1a.... our current sea level rise is tiny compared to then

[@lakeratatouille]

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[@lakeratatouille]

@@kimweaver1252 11:35 lies in their theories

[@kimweaver1252]

@@lakeratatouille Do you know what a theory IS? It doesn't appear that you have a clue. At all.

[@robtownsend3317]

Utter balderdash. I suggest that Miami will still be around a thousand years after I have written this. Over the years we have had much warmer (and indeed, colder periods) than we witness today. This is the biggest confidence trick being played on the world population and sadly, people are falling for it.

[@universalmonster4972]

How did you arrive at your conclusion? Did your gut tell you?

[@robtownsend3317]

Ancient history is a pretty good indicator.@@universalmonster4972

[@shevashevasheva777]

Orgasm

[@aitiluonto6032]

How about limiting population growth?

[@Praisethesunson]

Because Malthus. Overpopulation is not and never has been an issue. Your corporate overlords and the wasteful inefficient system they subject you to is the problem. But they want filthy rabble like you to blame other poor people instead of blaming the people who control everything of value in your life.

[@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu]

that my friend...will eventually take care of itself. Similar to ...ummm avian flu.....to many birds in the barn.....none survive.

[@o_o8203]

Its already happening. People see what's going on and a growing amount of people in younger generations do not want to have kids.

[@keyboardoracle1044]

Happening naturally in the developed world, you want it to happen quicker world wide? Encourage your government to invest in developing developing nations faster.

[@mmm_8318]

That's a eugenicist eco-fascist approach. No.

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