The WEIRD Reason BMW Never Built a V6

BMW has built some legendary six-cylinder engines throughout its history, ranging from the insanely powerful ones found in M3s to those renowned for their reliability and fuel efficiency, powering a wide range of vehicles from sub-compact cars such as the 1 series to full size SUVs like the x7.
It has been producing 6 cylinder engines for almost 100 years, during this time BMW has designed 10s or even hundreds of 6 cylinder engines, from different sizes to different architectures, the only thing that hasn’t changed it’s the cylinder configuration, all BMW 6 cylinders are in-line.
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[@stephen46xre86]

In the late 90s I was power train engineer at BMW in Munich. We built a V6, it was powerful and smooth, and in direct comparison to the inline6 it was absolutely on the same level. But it was more expensive due to 2 cylinder heads, 2 drive chains, more tubes and more assembly time. This V6 then was transferred to Rover to power the Rover 75 and the Land Rover Discovery.

[@GreenWarfare]

cool story! but did you built V6 from BMW engine or rebuilt older rover V6 engine?

[@Hodenkobold02]

I heard that very early in the f80 m3 development they considered making an v6. It would have been an s63 with 2 less cylinders

[@Dodanek1893]

Wasn't Rovers V6 from Kia?

[@cujbaion1]

For 230d and family Mini in top trim would be great even with rockers to have only two camshafts. 🎉

[@TheCraigy83]

@@Dodanek1893 i thought Rover predate Kia

[@akirsch76]

Inline 6 engines run super smooth and have a close-to-perfect engine balance, but only topped by a V12 engine. V6 engines often need balancing shafts. They also have much fewer parts because only one cylinder head is necessary.

[@joe2d]

The main drawback of straight 6 is crankshaft flex due to the length, which is about the only disadvantage compared to V6. And not all V6 needs balancing shaft, most 60 degree V6 can be balanced out with weighted flywheel. Which is also why most V6 are 60 degrees due to their inherently good primary balance.

[@martinsv9183]

@@joe2d A V6 does NOT have the same perfect balance as an R6. You wil have to add counter weights somewhere. Reducing flex requires far less.

[@BigUriel]

@@martinsv9183 People talk about these thinks in a complete absence of context or no quantification of these variables. A V6 without counter weights has less NVH than an I4 with counter weights, most people drive I4s *without* counter weights and consider them smooth enough. No modern engines have issues with crankshaft torsion, that was a problem in the 50s back when they didn't have good reliable steel and couldn't even make valve springs that worked over 6000rpm. Any performance or NVH differences between a modern I6 and V6 are completely academic and imperceptible to the driver. The main difference between them in practical terms and the reason why most manufacturers switched to the V6 is packaging. You can fit a V6 in most places you can fit an I4, longitudinally or transversely, with any drivetrain layout. I6s are too long to be mounted transversely in a FWD car (it has been done but it's a rarity, and I wouldn't want to work on those cars), in a RWD car it either has to be mounted too far back stealing cabin space (like BMW does) or mounting it further forward makes for an excessively long hood and/or compromises handling. You can also offer a V6 as a lower spec alternative to a V8 car, but even most V8 cars don't have the space length-wise for an I6.

[@martinsv9183]

@@BigUriel An inline 4 is not smooth. Its still acceptable to most people.... but its not smooth. Not compared to a 6 or 8. When you have driven them. A V6 without any extra balancing is not going to be as smooth as an I6. If you balance the V6 though you might not be able to notice any diff, I dont know. But then you also pay a price of more mass to move.

[@BigUriel]

@@martinsv9183 An inline 4 is smooth enough for most people. Some higher displacement I4s have balancing shafts bu they're a minority, 99% of them don't because manufacturers simply don't bother. Motorcycles have I4s that rev to 17.000rpm and they don't shake themselves apart. It's a non-issue that some get all hung up on. A V6 is smoother, even without balancing shafts. With balancing shafts there is no difference compared to an I6, the added mass of the shafts is also pretty irrelevant because road car engines always have very heavy flywheels precisely to add rotating mass, you can just put a slightly lighter flywheel on a V6 and get the same end result. These are all problems that simply do not exist and only fanboys on the internet keep talking about it because they have some favourite engine layout that they think is the best thing since sliced bread for some reason. The number one source of NVH in an engine is simply the power strokes and whether they overlap. A single cylinder is very rough because you have such a long period of negative torque followed by one big power pulse, a twin still rough but much better, a triple better still and an inline 4 is smooth enough for most applications and that's why they are literally everywhere. Going from 4 to 5 or 6 cylinders causes power strokes to overlap and makes them about as smooth as most people could ever notice a difference regardless of the engine balance effects which are tiny in comparison.

[@Alps6408]

Actually, the Mercedes V8 was selling well... Government pressure forced Mercedes to abandon the V8 in favour of EV's l4 and 6 cylinders, although great news is that Mercedes are bringing back the V8 for some of their models due to lack of sales, that's the real reason honestly... nobody is buying the new C63 4cylinder hybrid. Anyways, thought I'd share that bit, but BMW has always made great 6-cylinder engines with great potential and great reliability.

[@patrickcannell2258]

Government, a pesty force that know NOTHING about cars. Political pests!

[@cujbaion1]

That idea isn’t good for the regular line despite being enough in the city. 🤧

[@nordlicht1881]

Well thing is... Even for a four cylinder it's... Bad. I mean... Sounds terrible, no emotion in the drivetrain... I mean, that's just the thing: That car just has no emotion. Not only because it is i4, but because it is a subjectively bad i4.

[@Luton-Mick]

They build a great i6 only to dress it with plastic junk designed to last the warranty period.

[@christianpoint0888]

Agreed & it’s a crime ! It’s the only stuff I’ve replaced ! Turbos are great , it’s the effing waste gates that fail

[@fry.master]

@@christianpoint0888if youre talking about n54, you can tighten the wastegates without replacing them or removing turbos… they might still rattle but they will close/make boost. you got shafted into buying new turbos

[@Man1cal_3ngineering]

They got a cut cost somewhere to give you in-line 6 rear wheel drive monster

[@_IMNNO]

The B58 / S58 has been proven very reliable tho.

[@user-ot7jd9dt7t]

My M54B30 is nearly 25 years old with 161k miles on it and is still just fine 😂

[@jamesdrives993]

Back in the days I had a new, shiny driver's license in my wallet and I loved to show it to everyone. I used to drive my dad's manual Toyota Corolla to university, 100 hp of pure fun. I often push it to the limit in every gear change and with the window down and sunglasses on, it was such a time to be alive. I miss the days when cars were simpler, cheaper and more exciting. Nowadays you either get a bathroom appliance with 3 cylinder hybrid or an expensive supercharged toy.

[@austinnafziger4159]

There are still some good ones left! I wanted a car with modern tech and design, after getting used for years. I got a 24 Mazda 3. Manual, N/A 2.5L. Super nice and great value. Not perfect (looking at you direct injection) but loving it so far.

[@DanDD1]

@@austinnafziger4159but no handbrake and no ability to turn off stability control. Not the same as those old actually fun cars

[@austinnafziger4159]

@@DanDD1 Fair about the handbrake, but that doesn't bother me too much. As far as DSC goes... you just hit the off button. I cant seem to find any resources stating that it leaves stuff on when that is pressed.

[@DanDD1]

@@austinnafziger4159 I have a 21 Mazda 3 and for my European model only the traction control gets turned off. The stability control kicks in but I'm not sure if it gets dialed down a bit when you have the traction control off. Either way, I'm not going to buy another car that's not rwd without a manual handbrake. Annoys me so much

[@austinnafziger4159]

@@DanDD1 Very fair. I replaced a Z4C with it. Wanted something more modern and comfortable to daily. I do plan on getting another weekend toy in a few years that fills that need. Maybe a Lotus or NSX.

[@aricarphotomuc]

BMW did at one point develop a V6 only to realize that it wasn't really viable for them

[@satsumagt5284]

"Semi powerful M3" is that a joke? 500 horses is POWERFUL

[@PG-xr7ev]

in todays standards 500 hp isnt that high or powerful anymore unlike years ago when a car had 500 hp it was alot, now almost every modern car has around 500 hp

[@BatCat2S]

@@PG-xr7ev being more common it doesn't mean is not powerfiul. Do guns are not powerful enough for being common?

[@liiillllliiilllliilllliii9461]

@@PG-xr7ev almost every modern car you must be 12 years old and only watch stradman or one of his many copies the average moder car has 150-250hp most sports cars have 350 or less hp there are not many cars on the road making 500 hp let alone sedans

[@satsumagt5284]

@@PG-xr7ev Yes, you can mod a RS3 to make 500 horses. Or even a Golf R/ S3, for that matter It’s still powerful. 500 horsepower most likely will get you to 300 km/h, which IS quick. Cars are not like computers, whereas one day quad core is high end (Core 2 Quad Q6600), and next thing you know it’s low end (i3-8100). Car performance stays usable throughout decades, you could totally use a 80’s car nowadays. Same cannot be said about car safety, but that’s not the main subject

[@alstound]

Except V6 doesn’t offer better performance!

[@jakegianino5762]

Because they’re all longitudinal layout and incredibly balanced. Simpler to produce too. They have no need for a V6.

[@johnpatrickmatthewsmusic]

And VW comes out with a 5 cylinder...

[@LcFan96]

ironically the reason of 5 cyl was that you can fit it transversely while retaining some sort of smoothness and performance, also VR6 originated from the same idea

[@ilkkak3065]

And Volvo with 5 cylinder too

[@abdelaziz855]

Aswell as Audi and Fiat along with alfa romeo.

[@doggSMK]

​@@abdelaziz855 Fiat, Lancia and Alfa could not make one good engine in the 90s. Source: I've broken 3 engines for 2 years. Lol

[@abdelaziz855]

@@doggSMK i didn't say 5 cylinder engines in a Fiat/Alfa Romeo/lancia is good or bad, it's just that i like to mention them. And just a question, did they blow up because you put too much power on them or they Just fell Apart on themselves ?

[@giojohn9807]

Front wheel drive models should have their BMW badge removed ! It becomes just another car not a BMW.

[@louvendran7273]

I'm so privileged to be able to drive that BMWs they made from the 1970s. They rusted, overheated & broke down often. Extremely needy but what a car to drive. Anything better was exotic. It is a great pity however that Alfa left the European sports sedan/coupe market in the mid 80s as their 3.0V6 Busso is probably the best V6 every produced. All BMWs with multiple throttle bodies & M badge was something to savour. Sadly from now it will be even more expensive to keep as turbos are the future but they are also needy.

[@Boostf83]

Hell yeah!!!! BMW is so fun to drive

[@manuelpiston]

🧢 BMW is horrible

[@johnpatrickmatthewsmusic]

@@Boostf83 mechanics hate working on German cars

[@user-ot7jd9dt7t]

​@@johnpatrickmatthewsmusic some specifically love working on bmws tho

[@Best_Chuansatien]

@@manuelpistonplease give me example of a car more fun to drive than BMW with same price range. i plan to buy new car at the end of this year

[@pixelnazgul]

Fan is a device for cooling. And is a relative concept.

[@HappyDude1]

6 inline is very smooth and balance themself. That why they are in big trucks because a 14000cc engine would Vibrate to much

[@NikolaTesla-nb5nm]

RWD >> all the rest layouts

[@Spear98CZ]

Yes.

[@edyvrg8393]

I never drove a G80, but i heard the xdrive handles almost as well as the sdrive version. I think awd configurations can be fun as long as they're rear wheel bias. The Focus RS is absolutely incredible.

[@litlsnek]

go drive a mini lol

[@NikolaTesla-nb5nm]

@@litlsnek mini is shit

[@hypocriticalsmile]

As long as you live in a place which never sees snow.

[@silvix3137]

i always thought its crazy how bmw is basically the only massive car manufacturer that never built a v6

[@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead]

A V6 is a total compromise in every way to package a six cylinder engine into a smaller space, if you have the room which BMW does you will always choose an Inline 6 because it's a better engine configuration in every way.

[@iiiiii7680]

M57 i6. if you have the last revision of it. 400hp+ and you can still do 40mpg+ highway without issue. An amazing engine.

[@MatVeiQaaa]

its diesel though

[@ramadhanisme7]

Great video, straight away to the point and no nonsense

[@SlowV6Mustang]

A V6 bmw sounds like a cursed idea, imagine expecting the smooth startup of an inline 6 just to get the rowdy vibrations of a V6. I kinda I wish we could’ve gotten the 1 series hatchback in the states, an inline 6 longitudinally mounted to a hatchback is so unique and cool to me.

[@laserfipsel]

Love my E87 130i. Such an underrated and relatively cheap car.

[@TheWeavingBagel]

Any BMW with a B58 is a good car. Only because you now have on of the best tuner engines.

[@darylmorse]

Nice seeing the images of the S54. Having owned an E46 M3, this engine is amazing. I currently own an M2C with an S55, which is also an amazing engine. BMW really knows how to build inline 6 cylinder engines.

[@michaelgill5186]

I have 2 BMW 6s 1 Ford Barra and a 5cyl NA Volvo..the M54 BMW Engine is the smoothest but the Barra ain't far behind it ..the 5 cylinder Volvo is super quiet too

[@manuelpiston]

They still fall apart prematurely.

[@jacekp8366]

@@manuelpiston must be why my 22 year old 300kkm 330ci engine remains unopened

[@user-ot7jd9dt7t]

​@@jacekp8366basically 😂

[@e28forever30]

@@jacekp8366same here 21 year old 525i, 308 000km, unopened.

[@negativeindustrial]

Because V6 are inferior to I6 in every way?

[@MrRedcelica]

id say most manufacturers moved to V6 to reduce space needed in the engine bay and save money, creating a compact engine to go with.

[@mariuszanfir2298]

The B58 is not a B48 with two more cylinders. Is the other way around: the B48 is a B58 with two less cylinder. I understand it's a nuance thing, but it highlights that the main development was put in the inline 6 from which they derived afterwards the 4 and 3 cylinders.

[@e46m54nissansr20937]

Lets talk about the fact that BMW experimented with supercharging their Inline 6 before deciding to go twin turbo and turbo

[@fadedsoul23]

wait what???? what kind of supercharger? roots/tvs? twin screw? centrifugal? that would have been cool

[@MrZm0geliS]

Alpina turbo and supercharged

[@robertvanderlinden2813]

Inline 6 engines are the most used engine in agriculture

[@riccccccardo]

That’s good if you a farmer then 😂

[@TheWeavingBagel]

Semi trucks too.

[@havefunwithjulie]

as a BMW enthusiast, "well said"

[@NMITOK]

Good video my g 💯

[@user-bh8pg2sh2e]

Что-то не расслышал причину, по которой BMW никогда не делала v6.

[@hugobloemers4425]

Internal combustion engines will not be banned, don't let them gaslight you.

[@igniux]

and then theres 2 series family vans..

[@johnshaw359]

V6s are for FWD based cars. i6 is technically a better configuration.

[@bluz9951]

specialized in them but the best i6 is always gonna be a barra

[@daidinero7745]

Jaguar 4.0 straight six is a monster . Felt just as fast as the Ajv8🏁

[@elijahcarr4137]

V6 engines are for people that can't afford a v8. I6 is for smoothness and reliability

[@_J.P._]

LIttle OT: In GTA V there is a radio station that has a podcast with some technician and he is mentioning an INLINE EIGHT CYLINDER ENGINE :D Imagine BMW doing that...

[@jeffl1944]

Volvo did online 6 and 5 with front wheel drive no issues

[@manvydaspletkus3874]

most of those had horrible turning radius and were extremely front heavy

[@dovydas4036]

And they were ass

[@patrickcannell2258]

Not a BMW fan, but I love them for that the straight 6. It is a naturally balanced engine. Not a V6.

[@BillLaBrie]

Unless you’re Nissan, Alfa, or Buick, your V6 game is probably weak. Seems there are plenty of legendary I6’s and plenty of unimpressive V6s.

[@billymanilli]

The reason is, inline 6s are inherently smoother running engine than V6s... nothing to do w/ keeping the cars "rear wheel drive" (like you can't put a V6 in a rwd platform or something?) I wouldn't consider it "weird" by any means... either I was a BMW Master certified stealership tech in the late 90's and 2000s... They truly do "try" to make "the ultimate driving machine", keeping as close to 50/50 weight distribution as possible, RWD (or AWD) only, "aggressive" suspension geometry and alignment, big brakes and wheels for performance... AND.... just as important (to them) as the performance, comes "comfort", drivability, and keeping road noise/drivetrain noise to a minimum...and THAT's where the "inline 6" comes in... Really nothing more to it than that.

[@JOHNTSHEA]

Ttansversly mounting straight sixes was clearly no problem for Volvo, which is one of the main reasons Ford bought Volvo at the start of the century. British Leyland also used such a layout earlier.

[@LJ07EBP]

Mercedes still do inline 6s for buses and trucks actaully

[@FZERO20]

They have the M256 as well which is put in passenger vehicles with the ISG transmission. Unfortunately, they don’t have a big following with tuning

[@LJ07EBP]

@@FZERO20 ohh ok

[@akirsch76]

Mercedes has returned to inline 6 gasoline and diesel engines for a few years. These new engines have more in common with the inline 4 engines, and the V6 engines have more in common with the V8 engines.

[@themetalslayer2260]

few cars still use inline 6 but inline 6 are a standard on trucks. Mercedes tried to put a V6 on its Actros during a period but, the engine was not smooth enough for a heavy duty use and they decided to use inline 6 again (they also used V10 and V12 on trucks but these engines were not efficient enough and amazingly hard to maintain and costly) inline 6 are good engines, efficient and relatively easy to built, every other type of engine have lack of smoothness or efficiency (3 cylinders are not smooth, 4 cylinders are hardly powerfull, 5 cylinders are strange, and every engine with more than 6 cylinders in V are only here for power and prestige, inline 6 are an ideal compromise)

[@joshuadebideen22]

They actually made their first diesel V6 in 1975 (OM401), and Detroit Diesel also had the 6V92 V6

[@neolerades2987]

Inline 6s are better than V6s in almost everything - I've had several BMWs and maintenance and repairs on Inline 6s are very easy because you have a lot of space everywhere, simpler timing mechanism compared to V6s, better sound. The length of the engine is a good thing - because long hoods are very nice on cars, which makes BMW more beautiful than the competition.

[@riccccccardo]

I have a Lexus 450h f sport with the v6 gr-fse engine and rwd with rear wheel steering putting out 345 bhp and I love driving this car slow or fast.

[@kidmods]

Most v6 engines don't sound that good imo

[@bennyang8049]

1:34 Also BMW already has a fwd 4-cylinder production company… MINI !

[@jaygames1980]

More to a vehicle than power, how it handles in different situations and torque curve, each is different and better in different applications.

[@rmamon2554]

Whats the big surprise, BMW stands for luxury, and a V6 sounds like a bag of nuts and bolts. While a I6 is perfectly balanced. The best Engine sound in the world. And if somebody now comes and cries V12 is the best: Look at a V12 and tell me the difference between 2 I6'is and one V12.

[@xArsVivendi]

I drive a B58 and have to say, that a V5 / V10 and several V8s totally sound better.

[@dovydas4036]

​@@xArsVivendiV5?

[@xArsVivendi]

@@dovydas4036 I5 of course 😅

[@JMUDoc]

They would have built a straight-eight, if they could have fit it! I adore my M54 E46 - smoothest engine I've ever owned.

[@cujbaion1]

They wouldn’t make one just for first series 💀 They would rather buy the block and fit their cylinder-head, piston-rod assembly, clutch, chains, upper sprockets, exhaust from inline three, camshafts even if with readjusted lobe position, one tap less cylinder head cover, same accessories pulley. I think they might want to try it more on some up-trim family Mini and 235i with manual gearbox instead of the 150i non Motorsport. Land Rover can have it for them in exchange for the other parts on the same engine: engine block, crankshaft, cap less cylinder head cover, the balancing shaft if isn’t used on 1.5l. 🥴

[@1Himiko7Toga]

Sew the fuel efficiency I bet toyota would get more sales if they made the 2JZ again or 3JZ if they make a third gen of then engine lol

[@RivieraByBuick]

i6 is simplier and cheaper. End of investigation.

[@rafaelengensperger8218]

B58 6l/100km ? 10l at the lowest. I own one

[@lewis72]

0:53 "Let's go back to a couple of years, to the '80s & '90s, when everyone was building inline-six engines.... Ford" - Ford never made an inline-6 engine. In the '8os & '90s we had the Essex V6 (just) and the Cologne V6. It's easier to get a car to meet crash regulations with a V6 than a straight 6, as well as it being easier to fit in sideways for FWD. 1:39 "Parking a straight six inside a front-wheel drive car is almost impossible" - Austin "Hold my beer".

[@juggnautbitch]

What do you mean ford never made an inline 6? Unless you specifically meant the 80's and 90's but your still wrong as ford had the 200, 240, 250 and 300 i6' in the 80's.. The 300 i6 was used all the way up to 1996.

[@tyroneparker7480]

BMw made a 2.0l V6 in the UK circa the 1980s when the 3 Series took over deom the 2002.

[@honestyisthegucci]

No that was an 2.0l inline six.

[@doggSMK]

BMW are smart, they kept developing the perfect engine shape. Others (like Benz) tried V6 and are going back now. ;) PS: This is from Benz and Lambo fan

[@aqibfreed4672]

Strange. I would have always assumed an I6 had better weight distribution than a V6. I mean… its a straight line with the gearbox fitted to rear.? I know they’re smoother than a V6 but i had no idea about the weight

[@szymonpszczoka2678]

It's about weight distribution of whole car, V6 is shorter so it's easier to pack it before front axle in RWD. However in FWD vehicle it looks less important.

[@aqibfreed4672]

Thank you!

[@bokexd3173]

keep it that way inline 6 is the goat

[@awaisdon2868]

No bmw renowned for its reliability 🤣🤣🤣

[@noud2665]

A lot of them are actually like the b58,b57,m57 m51 and and on people talk trash bc they either cant maintain them correctly like basically every brainless American or they just cant understand that a sporty(ish) car is in general more expensive to buy and maintain then a small economic car

[@riccccccardo]

😂

[@Foiiiii1]

The B58 platform is known for its reliability, so much that even Toyota decided to use it for the Supra.

[@riccccccardo]

@@Foiiiii1 did they get lucky with the B58? I do recall reading Toyota actually got bmw too make many changes to the B58 before they accepted it into full production for the supra.

[@Foiiiii1]

@@riccccccardo I own a 2020 Supra with an engine tune making 540hp but I have zero issues with the engine, nor do I hear any other major issues with other cars with the same engine so I think BMW really improved it. Maybe Toyota breathed on it when putting it in their Supra, but honestly it's one of the best engines in the industry.

[@lauriebrooking2429]

Semi powerful ones like in the M3(shows a g80).... Is there a more powerful production i6?

[@TheCraigy83]

if car manufacturers are doing something its down to cost vs lifespan /not having to warranty fix anything .

[@DidisYT]

It‘s the Politcs buddy, nothing else. They just want to sell more cars and get a lot of money for the repair parts. Inline Motors are known as the best and most reliable motors in history.

[@kaneCVR]

FWD cars are NOT more fuel efficient. In fact it's the opposite by a infinitesimal margin. Manufacturers did not switch to FWD because it's better, but because it's cheaper - at least when dealing with regular 3-4 cylinder cards. No driveshaft, no transmission tunnel, final drive is built into the gearbox, less mounting hardware, greatly reducing cost (cost witch is not allways passed down to the consumer). FWD is and will always be the budget option. This changes a bit with FWD V6 engines. V6's are more complex then inline sixes, have worse engine ballance and are more expensive to make - especially when turbos are involved. On an inline you can get away with a single turbo, but on a V6 that is quite difficult (not impossible). V6s are also generally less reliable and sound subjectively worse then inlines. They have a harder time breathing, since there is less room in the valley (space between cylinder heads) and also less room between the outsides of the heads and the car's inner fender, witch requires tricky and smaller diameter intake manifolds and exhaust headers. This is sometimes less true for FWD V6 cars with transversally mounted V6 engines. There is also more energy lost internaly as mechanical work on a V6, due to the engine's need for two heads, two seperate valvetrains, and two timing chains, almost doubling internal mechanical losses compared to an inline. The VR6 is an exception, but the VR design is less of a V6 and more of a compact "squished / staggered" inline 6. V6's are however more compact, and at can handle higher RPM then inlines since the crankshaft is much shorter and suffers from less torsional stress.

[@philipstokes2824]

Exactly fwd cheaper to build but more expensive to fix, win win for the manufacturer's accounts department, lose life for the punter.

[@josvandencamp8441]

Drive a classic BMW with a M30 engine and you'll know. An in-line 6 is better balanced. BMW 6's are legendary.

[@Phil-D83]

I6 works best. I liked their turbo diesel i6s

[@neemolog]

I like RWD & I6/V8 but video still gives no proof or reason for others to cease I6 nor for BMW to start V6 BMW gave up good engines replacing them with I4 and even I3 turbos

[@mattmortel8884]

its easy engine response in a welll built inline 6 is close to perfect!😊

[@Arayig1982]

didn't switch like almost everybody else to fwd, thus didnt need it

[@vapno92]

Okay but Mercedes still builds RWD cars, yet they switched to V6 ..

[@Nisimo6787]

And now they are switching back to Inline 6 exactly for that reason. V6 is only great on fwd based cars, not so great on RWD. BMW will remain true to it’s identity unlike it’s competitors.

[@vapno92]

@@Nisimo6787 Yeah, that makes sense. Also MAZDA is currently making inline 6 diesel, and guess what it can meet all those crazy emission standards, just as 1.0 turbo 3cyl can do... When there’s a will, there’s a way

[@Nisimo6787]

@@vapno92 Mazda is great from what I’ve heard from my friend, never owned one to be fair.

[@artoahlholm8048]

its Nissan Skyline, not GTR

[@alessandropoggi9488]

Proud to be one of them owners

[@daidinero7745]

Oh and N52 is BMW best engine of modern era .

[@AdamAmbrus]

2:50 a sad moment indeed :(

[@Homme_Pur]

Damn I hate this subtitle trend on everything, didn't even watch the full video as the subtitles are so distracting

[@Anteeh8]

I am afraid some people wouldnt understand because of my accent.. thats why I put subtitles... but thanks for the suggestion as I will reconsider my decision for future videos

[@muqz187]

We drive on roads not tracks lol we will see who is faster on higher speeds and straight lines

[@PatrickHemmes]

My 2015 2-series is front wheel drive, so they gave up a lot earlier on the rear wheel drive, but the handling is pretty good for a fwd car.

[@nemanjamudric2833]

Except BMW has designed the newest generation of 1-series as either a FWD or AWD compact, totally disregarding their identity

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

I've got a F80 m3 and it's super easy to tune ive got close to 600hp

[@Mark-th1gn]

Love my m54b30

[@BMWFREAK539]

my m52b20tu too.

[@streetbeast5097]

Semi powerful is wild

[@ahorton6786]

Billions on development and we're throwing it all in the bin to to drive round in battery powered cars, sad.

[@theslavicimmigrant4795]

v6 doesn't have better performance than straight 6

[@Lysy.2.2T]

Now we need to see why Audi never made inline 6.

[@vladislavdimitrov4646]

Platform limitation i guess, not enough space in the engine bay?

[@RPNization]

VW-Audi has built 6 cylinder inline engines in the past, these were diesels and were installed in the VW LTs and, if I'm not mistaken, in some Volvos.

[@RPNization]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_D24_engine

[@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS]

Nobody is switching to electric tf is wrong wit oo

[@michalswic3954]

Bmw built some v6 for racing and motorbikes. BUT never ever built R5. 😉

[@Anteeh8]

Racing engines and mass produced engines arent the same

[@eivis13]

BMW =/= Reliability. Especially if you're coming from a Toyota.

[@watchyMCFCwatchy]

I drive a Mercedes i5. Cant fault it.

[@mattekudasai8249]

i love my n52

[@riadbenkabba8441]

Nah nah bmw will never make a v6, it costs more than an inline and more reliable, that ain't the bmw way lol

[@jimi1943]

Naah bmw i6 are very relible

[@shiv135]

Inline 6 is more robust and more reliable, v6 just unnecessarily has X2 of everything needed

[@riadbenkabba8441]

@@jimi1943 such a fanboy thing to say, i guess spun rods outta no where is considered very reliable huh ? And what abt diesels ? I thought diesels are supposed to be very reliable, why are rods need to be checked and maintained every 50k km, we're talking abt race engines maintenance at this point mate .... You're talking to a beamer boy, facts are facts bmw engines are shit 🤦🏼‍♂️ they're good when they're working, or should i say they're good when still under warranty, when it's over total crap.... Don't come at me with performance, acceleration, top speed... If the engine can't handle a little remap means it's already maxed out and rods were never part of the regular maintenance on daily cars, even supercars actually

[@riadbenkabba8441]

@@shiv135 no mate, it ain't.

[@shiv135]

@@riadbenkabba8441 The true artistry lies in the elegant simplicity of the inline-6 design, where its balanced architecture and streamlined engineering epitomize mechanical beauty

[@MR_stone69]

Because it will be too unreliable

[@mirceamaranciuc]

I6 best

[@C6Fever]

reliable? 🤣

[@TheWeavingBagel]

Toyota trusted it.

[@C6Fever]

@@TheWeavingBagel And Mercedes ''trusts'' Renault ;)

[@Turbo2.5]

No car manufacturers will be forced to electric. I find it funny how everyone believes that.

[@lflyr6287]

Anteeh : hahahaha....what a load of self serving crap !!!! BMW has NEVER produced an efficient or a reliable 6-cylinder engine. Every mechanic knows that. BMW engines were and still are semi-medium reliable and very thirsty for gasoline. Those are provable fact anywhere in any country at any time on any BMW gasoline powered car.

[@jackboomslang5646]

BMW M30 is god level.

[@Nisimo6787]

Lmao B58 M340i got voted as the moat reliable car of the year for the fourth time in a row. (idk if ur comment is satire mb)

[@lflyr6287]

@@Nisimo6787 hahahaha....what chart is that metric from ?!?! BMW only haha :) come on man....beemers have never been, aren't and will never be reliable and have never or will never have good build quality.

[@ronurialvarado2965]

W Bmw

[@imperatormouse2735]

There is no V6 performing better than Porsches B6 or BMWs I6. Fact.

[@ilir_thealbana]

The BMW M550d has a v6

[@SergioPresents]

Nope

[@TheWeavingBagel]

Any vehicles with a variant of "M" and "50D" have the quadturbo diesel inline 6. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B57#B57D30S0_(Quad_Turbo)

[@pixelnazgul]

Because they're a 1st grade student. And never got past that (like porsche).

[@the1withnoname496]

Reliable and bmw DO NOT go together😂 the ONLY reliable engine from bmw is the B58 and that’s thanks to toyota thats it. Stop calling bmw reliable