The Weird State of NASCAR Video Gaming

[@DennyDeliversYT]

you know it’s a problem when people are still playing nascar games that are almost 20 years old

[@Dual_80]

NR2003 still has great online racing too shows just had good we use to have it

[@Rand0mContnt]

I mean people will always go back to old games but I get what you’re saying.

[@christopherkaiser8369]

NFL Fans: first time?

[@Max16032]

Nascar gaming is basically stuck between 2003-2006. Sad but true-

[@jermaineboyd6594]

Right,but people will still play old NASCAR games no matter what.

[@flynnzone70]

Dude, as the person who painted the Verstappen and Haas F1 schemes in your NR2003 footage, it's really damn cool to see them on a big platform like yours

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

You're SUPER talented!

[@Cynon]

Facts ^

[@Kryptictails]

True ^

[@thetechfromheaven]

At first I though it was Checo. TBH with him and Suarez being compadres, I can really see Checo running that thing in the future at COTA or some Roval.

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is amazing recommend it

[@MisatoKatsuragiHD]

It’s amazing how NR2003 is still relevant 20 years on.

[@Cynon]

A lot of content for it still gets made, a lot of very imaginative work, too.

[@TheLgt99]

That’s the only game I play now days

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

Still a better sim racing game than Project Cars 3, Asseto Corsa, and a lot more.

[@thetechfromheaven]

NR2003 is life, NR2003 is love

[@jasonmoyer]

Vanilla, patched NR2003 is still the best oval racing sim ever made.

[@rainbowtrout51]

Dirt to Daytona is another game from that early 2000s era that was incredible at the time, and still holds up well to this day.

[@01Zipang]

shame it's pretty buggy at times. I've had trucks at martinsville pull the everyone stops and crashes. stuff that can cripple you in career mode.

[@TylerTinsley75]

I know people won’t like to admit it but nascar heat 3-5 are modern day versions of that game, with similar physics and graphics. NASCAR heat evolution even had the same engine noise

[@PaperBanjo64]

@@TylerTinsley75 they're great games, they're exactly modern "remakes" of Dirt To Daytona

[@nickphilkill8287]

Get the world of outlaws game monster games plus iracing is a winning combo game is amazing

[@thedudesgamingchannel8872]

Still run D2D every month. Want to start a streaming series for it

[@Skeet8813]

Even though it is years outdated with drivers, Heat 4 is still doing me amazing! the online is pretty hit or miss, but the single player/career is still good, with the AI being amazing, with superspeedway racing being arguably the best it ever has been

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game put out by monster is awesome highly recommend

[@Quirked_Up_Cowboy]

Personally I feel like we have hit a brick wall in NASCAR games and unless Rivals blows the market out of the water I think if I was NASCAR I'd break all ties to Motorsport games and go to Monster games again. They have done wonderfully with the heat series and have been making NASCAR games since late 90s early 2000s so they know what they are doing and what the player wants and now with the backing of Iracing I think they can release a great NASCAR game especially if they implement the same mechanics as like SRX which is one of the best racing games to come out recently.

[@asherwiggin6456]

Iracing bought monster games so it really wouldn’t be much if a licensing issue on the PC side, but I think that the contract is binding for consoles so it would require a buy-out of some kind

[@jackhammerjt]

I mean shit if we go to monster WE BACK WITH IRACING (Who developed NR03

[@johnnyracioppi]

Monster has done a great job with the World of Outlaws game too.

[@nickphilkill8287]

Highly recommend the world of outlaws game best racing game on console right now iracing came in and built on what monster games did with srx amazing game

[@slipstream7324]

Does the next-gen expansion give your driver a concussion when you wreck?

[@michigan__railfan]

LMAO FR that would be hilarious

[@liltwizz_07]

@@michigan__railfan Uhh, that's not funny. That made Kurt Busch retire.

[@StarkRavingSports]

At least we have Mario Kart 🤷‍♂️

[@mikiziolo07]

Heat 5 2022 DLC coming 21st October BRO IT'S FUCKING MID JANUARY NEXT YEAR ALREADY AND WE ARE STILL WAITING

[@willengland7336]

After watching Austin Ogonoski’s video, I think I finally know why NASCAR 21 has been a train wreck. MSG has been outsourcing development to a team that doesn’t even know anything about NASCAR. If you want a great new NASCAR game, you need a team that is dedicated to the sport and game development. There are plenty of game developers that love NASCAR or motorsports in general. We need people like them developing NASCAR games instead of cheap foreign labor.

[@LorikQuinn]

Not dissing eastern europeans, but seeing all those names in the credits really explains why the game feels so generic. Really crazy that the publisher prob didnt even give them the basic rules list lol

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is awesome highly recommend

[@Pokucollector]

I hear world of outlaws game is good. Iracing being a part of nascar console gaming would help out a lot.

[@jc1424]

There's a lot missing from NASCAR Rivals from what I've seen. The AI race poorly at some tracks, there is no pit crew animation, and random UI errors.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Ghost pit crew like in NASCAR Heat Ultimate on Switch in 2021 mode...I 'member when you could have Mr Clean as your pit crew!

[@PaperBanjo64]

@Peters6221 I thought it would have been funny to have an Elvis pit crew.

[@ChiChiWoo]

ayyyy thanks for including a clip with me leading on NR Thunder

[@DarkzyYNS]

here 5 months later, still no NASCAR Heat 5 expansion pack

[@gabingston3430]

Upon hearing about the NH5 2022 DLC, I immediately went and ordered the game on EBay.

[@danielwest9955]

As a longtime Nintendo portable gamer, it’s rather amazing that a Switch title could arguably be the best NASCAR video game released in the last 3 years.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Especially when Nintendo hasn't gotten a decent NASCAR game since the GameCube until Heat Ultimate Plus last year.

[@pharaohwrestlingyt]

I think the SRX game needs some love. It’s pretty fun.

[@Abel_Unstable]

Agree, its pretty good.

[@nickphilkill8287]

World of outlaws game is the even better iracing helped with the physics 15 real world tracks and 7 classes of cars

[@Cynon]

A game from 20 years ago still being relevant speaks highly of those games, honestly! NR2003 represent! Ever think of trying a negative tire wear race? :)

[@curtisharvey5579]

If only they could just copy the AI code from NASCAR Heat/Rivals and plug it into ignition

[@Denverbroncos87]

I’m playing Nascar racing games on ps1, ps2 , ps3. I would love to see a Nascar game where we can hire a driver we want from cup or xfinity or trucks, or a driver that’s a free agent. Kinda like the 2k games. Career mode moving up from arca to truck to xfinity to cup. Or just going straight into a championship season in which series you enjoy.

[@unbredbeast]

Yeah I would like that and a silly season of it's own. I think it is the sponsors holding that back

[@Denverbroncos87]

@@unbredbeast exactly. A good silly season. Drivers retire, some resign during the season, others announce going somewhere else, others doing part time. Drivers promoted . It would be great.

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game has Career mode like this where you can hire driver race in lower disvisons 16 real world tracks 7 different cars with 8th coming as dlc highly recommend it. Game play amazing. Feels like old ea sports nascar games

[@TheOzarkWizard]

Nascar thunder 2003 was my childhood

[@TheOzarkWizard]

Nascar games have a lot of potential, but they're all terrible in their own ways.

[@Vettel2011]

It would've been perfect, had 06 Total Team Control been the last NASCAR game

[@bobby.simpson30]

I have been playing NR2003 for about a month now, and I'm learning endless things about it, and man, NR2003 is probably equally awesome as NASCAR Thunder 2004!!!

[@LorikQuinn]

Imagine thunder 04 with NR2003's moddability 😈

[@thetechfromheaven]

@@LorikQuinn Imagine NR2003 AI ported to BeamNG 🥵🥴

[@aidanrogers6767]

@@thetechfromheaven NR2003 ai, Beam's physics, thunder's career mode, and ETX era paint booth. the greatest game ever devised

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is awesome feels like old ea sports nascar games highly recommend

[@AOGWardog1229]

This video is spot on. I do want to add that even tho it cost money, iRacing has a pretty large nascar community and it’s quite a good sim when it comes to nascar.

[@tstuff1213]

Well its basically the Best Sim for Nascar period.

[@AOGWardog1229]

@@tstuff1213 I mean, agreed lol. Was just saying that it’s also a major place that the nascar community as moved to.

[@TokeyTheBear_AOE]

Yeah I have zero idea why people say there is no good modern Nascar game. Iracing has the stock car Sim game locked down. By far the best.

[@maley2552]

Thank you for using my Justin Haley Rockstar Energy paint scheme

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

You’re SUPER talented!

[@maley2552]

@@BlackFlagsMatter thanks

[@MichaelS-kg9ci]

The fact they’re releasing a 2022 update to Heat 5, personally I hope they add the 2021 schemes as well, should just show you the state that NASCAR games are in today. In my honest opinion, they should release a game every 2-3 years and then for the years they don’t release a main game, just update the previous one with roster updates. I’m also excited for NASCAR Rivals and can’t wait for it to release next week!

[@48waffles36]

💯

[@crouchb15]

Madden take note

[@PaperBanjo64]

Makes sense, that way they can update the roster for $20 and work on upgrading the physics and driving model.

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is awesome highly recommend

[@johnvandeventer8668]

I’m just waiting for the update for heat 5

[@brandonsettle8089]

Reports say October 21st, unfortunately its a paid DLC which I feel is wrong, like why are they making us pay for being smart and not buying into the disaster of 21 Ignition?

[@zachdumas]

Buy the world of outlaws game put out by monster highly recommend it

[@chasebriscoe14_D1]

reason 12 millon why im getting the heat 5 dlc

[@ScarlettStunningSpace]

I always loved NASCAR for PSP when I was a kid. I'd go to Watkins Glen and crash into as many people as I could in the first corner as the UPS truck, the peak of gaming

[@tstuff1213]

Answer: IRacing, most realistic feel and tracks. Main Cons Expensive and needs a PC

[@mvdbutler]

3:09 CAN'T STOP LAUGHING

[@fishproductions22]

Lmao I love in nr2003 putting the next gens at full speed at auto club and watching them go 5 wide

[@Happymars24]

Me still playing NR2003 for 20 years since no other Nascar game has surpassed it. Modders have kept the game alive and well.

[@mustang66312]

You playing NR2003 on PC?

[@Happymars24]

Yes. I dont think there's any other way to play the game.

[@nickphilkill8287]

New world of outlaws game on console is phenomenal

[@NickJohnsonSaxophone]

Man, I hate that no one is bringing up the HUGE NASCAR community that was on the Gran Turismo series (entries 5 and 6). Honestly, everyone that grew up playing Thunder was hanging on GT5 and 6 running Leagues and Races all the time. As far as online racing capability goes, that was the best thing going on in consoles in the 2010s in my opinion

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is really solid highly recommend

[@Malachi_Marx]

I miss Dirt to Daytona.. had it on my gamecube

[@omegafolf]

The AI is driving like there in EuroNASCAR

[@Shay_Mendez]

Just raced at Fontana in Ignition in my created car. Champion difficulty. I was the only one who pitted at the end of stage 2, fuckin MAULED the field on fresh tires during stage 3, 2nd place was 8.3 seconds behind me up until I was leading on the white flag lap, then they shat the bed and pitted on the last lap and started wrecking. I didn't even get to TAKE the checkered flag. Caution came out on the straightaway. PAIN.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

Even though the recent NASCAR games have not been good, at least NASCAR has had games in recent years, unlike Indycar which hasn't had a dedicated video game in over 15 years with Indycar Series 2005 being the last Indycar game to date. I don't count the inclusion of Indycar in games such as Forza Motorsport & Project Cars as Indycar games because those games only included a small number of drivers, cars & tracks from the series & didn't offer the player the full Indycar experience.

[@jonathanswink2682]

I stumbled across this video...I don't play video games...I am a NASCAR fan...but I was in damn tears the guy losing his mind playing the game 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good video

[@davidbuell7051]

Long time sim racer here from the original days of nascar heat,NR and NSR. I still run full season retro sims of nascar seasons and my favorite feature that is the most basic adjustment on NR2003 and all sports games have is the ability to edit driver ratings. This would make nascar heat 5 so much better if you could make sure Cody ware isn't contending for wins. The adjustability on NR leads to endless possibilities. Somehow though no matter what I do I cannot bring home Dael his 8th championship

[@Maverick33]

2 things I miss about the EA games are the fantasy tracks and fantasy drivers

[@PaperBanjo64]

And the career mode where drivers can switch teams and retire

[@luckynascarcat24]

I wish we could mod games like thunder 2004 DTD and Nascar 2005

[@xLogicless]

watching this video after playing nascar legends and nascar racing 3 in full 3d in VR.. i think i may be the only person on the planet to have done it so far..

[@Indizzinator]

Any time I think they will fix ignition it somehow gets worse and the fact there’s still no mirror and the ai is messed up also no career mode for 22 really breaks it for me I see some improvements but we’re a year in and it’s still pretty bad

[@TheNewChevyRoll48]

"It looks very promising" How many times are we gonna say this before we get back to NASCAR 09 quality gameplay?

[@existinginaspace8347]

Personally I won't buy another Nascar game until they do the following. 1: Full livery editor for on and offline use. 2: Career mode team management where you can buy additional charters or if it's not cup, just vehicles and hire available drivers to race them as AI while you pilot your own ride. 3: Variant AI learning. Maybe the pit man you hired started out strong but their skills build super slowly or cap out at some point. Maybe the guy who was cheap and slow turns into a god tier pit chief by season 3. New AI drivers growing their skills and driving styles. Adapting to the tracks. Etc. 4: Actual crash physics and full destruction capability. Get those 4 things and I'll throw even as much as $150 for a PC version.

[@PyroBun_2844]

This game makes me sad, the Next-gens feel amazing to drive, once you get in the grove, it’s great! And then you get to the A.I and everything else… To others: Get Nr2003 or find a different racing game that’s good. Please.

[@daveizdebski]

What confused me about NASCAR Heat Ultimate on switch last year was how bad the graphics were. The Nintendo Switch is capable of handling Heat 5 graphics and it seems like NASCAR Rivals is alot closer to that graphics wise.

[@PaperBanjo64]

I thought the graphics were decent but some things looked kinda blurry.

[@jamesvance2377]

I'm still very much disappointed that the 2022 season stuff isn't going to be in NASCAR heat ultimate edition (NASCAR heat 5 on the switch, with all the DLC) because heat five on other consoles is going to get the 2022 season stuff, but not on the switch because you got to get rivals.

[@PKInTheUniverse]

I still play Nascar dirt to Daytona and Nascar 2005 Chase for the Cup both on PS2 . Every once in a while I pop in ‘08 and ‘’09 on PS2 to mix it up.I haven’t bought a new nascar game since ‘13 on PS3. I feel like I wouldn’t even know where to jump back into at this point. I have a switch so I might check out rivals at some point. I’ll definitely wait for reviews.

[@DonderNashawk]

I'd love to make a Nascar Rumble-like game on Roblox too as a more Arcade-y Zippy Nascar game

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

The AI is bad because they forgot to configure it for the different car pack, since it also uses the Gen6 AI config lol

[@ThatsBadTV]

I remember when one time at Daytona I randomly slowed down to 135mph for no reason lol or at Bristol dirt everyone just stopped .. they weren’t stuck etc

[@dennisbessey5161]

The expansion pack has made the game unplayable again

[@patbrown911]

I really like the Nascar Heat series, but probably because it´s more arcade than simulation, which I prefer.

[@zachdumas]

World of outlaws game is phenomenal put out by monster feels alot like the old ea sports nascar games

[@loganengland8177]

Heat 4 was the best in the Heat series

[@jaredchampagne2752]

Can someone explain to me how Nascar thunder can have better graphics, more wreck animations, better drafting and just a way better experience overall in 2003 compared to a game in 2022...that absolutely boggles my mind, how the hell can game creators not figure out what they did in 2003...🤦‍♂️ Video games are just dying in general because of this, no one puts in effort anymore.

[@lucastraman706]

Austin Oginouski moment

[@Sup3rb1rd]

At this point we just need a nr2003 port on the switch

[@mcmann7149]

Ignition would have been a good game at this point if they didn't bungle up the AI. The AI was actually taken from RFactor 2 and while the game is still getting consistent updates, especially to its AI, the AI is visibly worse on oval and other tracks which don't have many turns or turns that lead into each other. This is why the AI in Ignition is a lot better while driving tracks like COTA compared to Daytona or Texas.

[@hunter-_-96]

NASCAR 21 Ignition makes NASCAR Heat 5 looks like a pretty solid NASCAR game.

[@raphacarros7196]

8:22 Could you give me these track ini settings for the auto club track, I really want to have the ia running like this in my game.

[@ry-x]

I'm really excited to get NASCAR Rivals, I got Heat Ultimate Edition last year and really enjoyed it

[@Daveybird]

rFactor 1 and 2 are also good options for NASCAR, along with the sister game ARCA Sim Racing. Fans of the Xtreme Dirt Tour will find plenty of Dirt Oval mods.

[@FayeHunter]

It is astounding how the Roblox engine is in a state of mass-potential. I miss 2004 or which ever one had all those fantasy tracks on PS2, those were good times. But damn. Games do be suckin' ass. Baaaaah.

[@hey_its_kev]

Nascar rivals is just a updated heat game..same speedometer and track map and overall graphics show it…which isn’t a bad thing as long as it’s fun and has some depth…and it actually works….

[@TheMrtgamer]

So about the NH5 patch... According to ex-employees and a leaked shareholders call, Motorsports Games and their parent company are on the verge of filing for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and losing all their licenses as of almost 2 months ago

[@ACasualRacer]

The parent company is Motorsport Network which is doing fine financially and they actually just gave an additional $100 million to fund Motorsports Games for the next year.

[@Redslayer86]

@@ACasualRacer They won't last long like that

[@JustaPizza1]

​@Redslayer86 This aged like fine wine

[@Razz415]

My son and I prefer Nascar Thunder 2003. But my Xbox started overheating... Wish the had a rerelease with modern graphics on the Xbox One. That would be awesome. I'm not into PC gaming, but that game would be the first one to buy and mod.

[@loganengland8177]

Nascar thunder 2004 will still be the best Nascar video game ever.

[@KonwTheTrut]

madden, fifa, nascar...most sports games......guys, its not just nascar. f1 is great. i heard 2k is ok this year, but yeah...just all sports games in general suck.

[@larsongame4120]

NASCAR Video Games died with 07. Change my mind.

[@TheyreStillOutThere]

Just give me the career mode of Dirt To Daytona with all of the badass unlockable content, legendary challenges, and car customization of Thunder 2003. It’s such an easy thing to not fuck up. Yet here we are. I WILL pay $70 for a perfect NASCAR game with all of these features. also there was an awesome bug in DTD (at least on GameCube) where if you got just the right kind and amount of body damage, your car would top out at well over 230mph at Daytona and Talladega and you’d just fly across the track setting insane lap times. It was hilarious and awesome. God I miss that game.

[@BoogityBoogityBoogity-nx9gy]

Based on the little ignition I played I found that the physics was better than heat, the graphics and presentation is on another level, and they actually have a paint booth. It’s a shame there’s still all the bugs.

[@Drewster327]

N2003 is still my jam and the customizability is still unmatched

[@simoneghilardini5211]

NR2003 is so damn good that even in Europe we have online racing leagues.

[@KrazyKeith4]

Funny bc I just saw a video about how new Monster Jam games were such shit that people were literally creating lobbies on Halo and having races there, or they could get a monster truck game from 1996.

[@xdashx4962]

We always focus on the big issues of ignition but even the small details are messed up. The career mode standings are messed up. I alway have like 60 drivers in the standings with many duplicates. The manufacturer championship doesn’t even count right, it takes average points of the manufacturers instead of the true way it’s scored

[@Mister_Matt_X]

My biggest pet peeve playing NASCAR heat on the switch is you don’t adjust the car handling... that’s messed up...

[@GOWENYT]

I made it into a video let's goooo

[@davelikesbacon]

AAA gaming will not improve the NASCAR games. Why? Because you will buy another one the next year thinking it's going to be better. Spoiler, it won't be. It doesn't need to be because fans keep buying them. Why do you think call of duty still sucks? Why do you think the NFL games and the NHL games are the exact same thing as the year before? Because fans continue to buy crap. I used to play EA sports NASCAR 98 back in the day. The AI acted the exact same way. The only thing that's really improved from Nascar 98 to the last game is graphics. The AI still acts like crap. It always will. If you're going to continue to buy NASCAR console games stop expecting perfection or even something better. Except it for what it is and move on. Quite simply, it is what it is

[@sportstrap4285]

I can’t wait for the 2022 Heat 5 pack, Ik people criticized Heat a lot but I loved Heat 5 and still play online daily (I think I’m up to like 2000 online races atp) it’s just a blast and the online community is still very active and fun

[@jinzo457]

I still play 2005 on a nearly daily basis, kinda sad that nothing else has grabbed me like it did.

[@jamesethaniv]

It would be cool if you could relive iconic moments from the 70s and 80s and race with the greats

[@Denverbroncos87]

As of right now. I think Nascar games will just go downhill. Eventually fans will continue to find ways to enjoy gaming how they want while new games come out that sell less and less.

[@Speedjponator3]

I did the intro and testing in my part and October 21 heat 5 upgrade on the 2022 next gen

[@iceeblueburst03]

I’ve been having fun with NASCAR Rivals recently on my Nintendo Switch.

[@Lamine_YamalFan19]

Dude love your vids

[@scatterplot77]

Isn't it almost impossible to even find a copy of NR2003?

[@michigan__railfan]

I personally really, REALLY love NASCAR ‘08 and main thing is bc I don’t got a lot of other games and it is super fun when you get used to the mechanics and you like need to put it on hard mode or else you smash into every person in front of you if you ain’t on the pole lol

[@FlyGuyOnly773]

It’s not hard to develop and make a NASCAR game the developers just choose not to they know what they’re doing!

[@SuperNASCARrocks]

The state of NASCAR Video Gaming right now is just sad. I haven’t bought a NASCAR Game in 3 years. The last one I bought was Heat 4. Just a sad state of affairs for NASCAR Gaming in general right now.

[@H0LLOW_PRIV]

NASCAR needs to get out of MSG and resign with Monster Games, since they're now owned by iRacing. I bet they can produce something leagues above this

[@iMalcolm98]

This!

[@Daveybird]

I also hope this. But my only concern about Monster Games reacquiring the NASCAR license through iRacing is that there might not be a PC version after what they did with the World of Outlaws game, but hopefully they will walk back on that decision.

[@racingaerials4493]

NR2003 at every challenge: That's cute!

[@Moose6340]

Right now, seems like the best place to go for NASCAR gaming is iRacing? Although that's not a mass-market game like Rivals and Thunder, I guess. But NASCAR seems to be putting a lot of push behind their involvement in iRacing instead of the console games.

[@Justin-no1od]

Heat 2002 for the OG Xbox is underrated imo. The way the car handles and rolls into corners is so much better than modern Heat games. Also the way you have to ease off and on the throttle is a lot more accurate. It does have a bug on Martinsville that once a caution comes out it’ll make the pace car turn laps with you while the race goes green but great game otherwise. The PS2 version didn’t have a full 43 driver field but the Xbox did. About a 3rd of the field is fantasy drivers though.

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

Enjoyed it all, thanks man :)

[@MIke_Wazowski99]

idk player: "Fine, ill do it myself"

[@truexfan001]

NASCAR Thunder 2004 - NASCAR 07 were peak.

[@peteyrose9666]

Dark Souls Saga / Nascar Thunder 03/04 Those are the two games ive put most my time into. Maybe 2k up there somewhere too lol. But anyways god do i miss NT04. Thinking about buying PS2 / game just so i can play it again

[@jermaineboyd6594]

Looks pretty sweet and promising,but I still take a wait and see approach.