The Windows Whistler Upgrade Saga! (Upgrading Through Pre-Luna Builds)

[@Peeps40836]

Ah yes, the MJD Windows curse: Saying everything is going smooth and then immediately goes something wrong.

[@dessnom4333]

its called the krazy ken curse

[@Amber_123]

@@dessnom4333 underrated comment

[@weegeenumberone2]

@@dessnom4333 Except Krazy Ken curse is for MacOS, the MJD curse is for Windows.

[@danielyaseen]

@@weegeenumberone2 yea

[@Boowomp._.]

The mjd Hardware curse

[@TheFakeVIP]

This might be a bit of a strange request, but since I'm a blind viewer of yours, and since you make a lot of history and retrospective videos, I'd love to see a video on the history of Windows accessibility, whether that's built-in or third party assistive technologies. Many thanks for your content by a screen reader user.

[@MichaelMJD]

That would actually be really cool! I’m not sure if that’s been covered before. Thanks for the suggestion! : )

[@wafflesncatsup5323]

Sorry if I'm being rude by asking this, but may I ask how you found the channel without seeing what you were clicking/tapping?

[@zan0038]

@@wafflesncatsup5323 Someone was with him?

[@wafflesncatsup5323]

@@zan0038 but that still doesn't explain how they'll "see a video" like their comment says. Sorry I not understand.

[@TheFakeVIP]

@@wafflesncatsup5323 You're not being rude at all. I've been searching for quite some time now to find a good resource that explains all this, and I just can't find something, so here goes. Blind people use programs called screen readers to navigate a computer. If you visit my channel, you'll find videos of me ... well me from a few years ago at this point, doing exactly that. They read objects on the screen, and they're usually tied to reading the item that has akeyboard focus, at least usually. On mobile devices, they put a cursor on the screen that surrounds whatever item you're focused on, and you can move it by touching other parts of the screen. You can then activate whatever item was just read by double-tapping anywhere. In general, we don't use mice, they just make it harder since it's quite a visual medium. I can do everything you can do on your computer with a keyboard alone. Hope that helps.

[@gilly5809]

These types of videos never get old to me.

[@minecraftslegacycommunity486]

Agreed

[@Creedoo]

We need to appreciate how much time this guy is actually wasting for stuff like formatting, redoing some steps and trying out similar things with no result off the camera

[@JTRAIN]

These videos cannot get more old. Love the content Michael.

[@blu9821]

I love how this channel has the exceptional clipping of "OH, this is going so good" *an error occurs*

[@Jake1702]

I believe for the first build of Whistler you need to do some trickery and launch the installer through DOS for it to actually work properly.

[@vivianciurus5326]

It's 3 AM and I'm watching a guy upgrading between the betas

[@tristanraine]

Aw hell yeah, another MJD video wooooo. Great content on everything man, will edit when I finish the full vid!

[@tristanraine]

@@nickoffscript FRICK FORGOT.

[@taylorreal428]

legend says that they're still editing their comment

[@StevenOBrien]

5:10 "So we're just going to randomly re-arrange these desktop icons in no particular order" My OCD: "And I took that personally"

[@jargon343]

YAY! I LOVE these upgrade videos! Keep it up!

[@learningtoflag5410]

Woah! Nice Video Micheal! You always have some of the best videos I've seen! Keep up the good work!

[@nplsm]

Watching this at 23 PM because i do not havr a life. Keep doing this stuff micheal

[@winelectronic101]

I had sent out an email to Michael about a possible solution for most of these builds to this problem, but if it helps anyone else as well, feel free to give this comment a like and reply: To get past the Windows Whistler Setup is Starting screen on builds that freeze at it, try going to your BIOS and disabling the ACPI feature. For whatever reason, builds 2257-2416 have a big problem with ACPI (which is the power management system) that causes the CD to hang at the blue screen Windows Setup program. 90% of the time this trick fixes the problem.

[@Mickelraven]

Hey Michael! Can I suggest a video idea? I'm interested in an alternate timeline type of video on: *Where would Windows be today if Longhorn never got reset?* And that Microsoft's plans went the way they were suppose to. Longhorn was released in 2003, as a fine successor to XP. Then came Blackcomb, and then what? I'm honestly interested in this topic, and I'm surprised that this topic doesn't exist on KZbin

[@notthatntg]

2004 as of the 3-year gaps*

[@Ardauxca]

The one thing that I love is when something does not work properly and I just can't help but laugh. Always great content MJD and keep up the fantastic work!

[@justingameshowchannel7668]

22:44 I know this is old but that bulid works in virtual box

[@hanstheexplorer]

4:10 Whistler Windows 2001 Professional (missed Windows Whistler 2000 Professional opportunity) 6:57 The codename Whistler at the top has the Windows Millennium Edition logo. Eurgh. 10:23 Blank Windows 2000 setup. 12:33 Again, the Windows Millennium Edition logo on a Whistler/2000 setup. 13:32 Blank Windo- WHISTLE! WHISTLE! -ws setup.

[@bastardinabasket9535]

Could you do a review on the Calmira XP program for Windows 3.1?

[@MichaelMJD]

I’ve actually done one on that version and the original Calmira!

[@i_lost_my_bagel]

New favorite channel. You're like druaga1 but more organized.

[@ckingpro]

$5 Windows 98 PC, you have a contender with the most physical OS installed: Dell Latitude D610. The laptop is preparing for the long -haul- horn (strikethrough does not work 😠) for beating you. Sports Commentator: Only if the OS installs successfully! Also, since the partitioning takes a long time, I think it is best if you use something like a linux boot disk to quick format the drive with a FAT file system and then upgrade that to NTFS for older OSes (though I think for newer post-luna builds, you can quick format?). If you do need DOS to launch something, use Freedos (It is open source version of DOS still in development! It's format command has quick format support too) I think the laptop is just too new to be properly supported by the older builds.

[@notthatntg]

You need spaces. Yes: long -haul- horn No: long-haul-horn

[@ckingpro]

@@notthatntg Thanks!

[@gd-ludlulu]

Hey Michael, what happens when you launch MSN Browser from Windows 9x on Windows 10?

[@gd-ludlulu]

@Alejandro Herrera Barboza Yes .

[@vaanidel2117]

I know this video is extremely old by now, but build 2202 can in fact be bootable! I've modified the iso myself (and can send it to you if you'd like), but all you need to do is replace "i386/cdrom.sy_" with that same file from the 2211 iso

[@thatoneuser5066]

Try upgrading through versions of Ubuntu.

[@leap123_]

Bob Pony already do that

[@i_lost_my_bagel]

You're never going to guess what he did

[@raxpyraxp]

7:16 "Next we will accept this wonderful license agreement" Not so wonderful I should note :D

[@disasterocks]

What happens when you upgrade through every version of windows memphis?

[@אאא]

You should review Windows Vienna made by Vista (not the XP Vienna edition)

[@אאא]

@@someidiot4311 It's more than just a themepack, It's now in an ISO as a fully custom OS and receiving new updates

[@Gordons1888]

Me: Gets mad when windows updates Also me:

[@awesomereview2358]

The bsods on both bulids is pointing to the file processor.sys

[@sburton015]

Build 2250 was compiled on June 28th, 2000. Would you consider that to be a long time ago or fairly recent? Apparently beta builds are not guaranteed to work but for testing purposes only.

[@athe52]

Now we go through the post-Luna builds! The next one should be for 7 development, since that has a somewhat interesting development.

[@GigantTech]

Windows 2000 with no quick format i Love it

[@WP7Nettwerk]

Always when I watch MJD video, my hands want to install back Windows 2000 Professional. I miss that Windows. My favorite one. But @MJD can you make video how to install Windows 2000 on new hardware via Hyper-V on Windows 10?

[@jericoalba6368]

Can you make a slideshow of the screenshots from the faces of Windows from 3 up to the latest build of Windows 10? As a transition video to let us see how Windows changes over time? As a summary of all the history developments of the OS versions. I watched it all and it is so great. Thanks!

[@ExperimentalCreat0r]

7:22 when you do a example of jinxing yourself And then later your jinxed

[@hugosimoes5119]

21:11 It's just like that screen says, use Smart Drive. Find smartdrv.exe ... diskette or CD... run smartdrv and it should copy files way quicker. I would use the Windows 98 CD instead of the diskette. Maybe try some other PC or rebuild one instead of DELL. Some ASUS/ASRock/Gigabyte motherboard, an Intel P4 s478/LGA775 or AMD Athlon/Sempron, 512MB DDR or more, AGP gfx...

[@applesiri2381]

Iqrl not less or equal means that another file is asking windows to give access to it but windows declines . Then a fatal error is caused.

[@MajorStu]

The Windows Whistler builds are my favorite to look at besides Windows Longhorn.

[@simonpetrus1981]

Good video👍🏻 such a shame that we never got to the windows whistler desktop in this video☹️.

[@henrybarwick6792]

Are you going to make a Windows 10 Development History video?

[@CaelThunderwing]

*insert Imposibru meme here* @20:39 , formats to just shy of 10.79GB, buuut~~ then Total Disk space to be about what 74GiB/76GB in total size? Somethings not right.

[@ananmuadi31]

Great video Michael!

[@SkyeWeeb]

I never thought an upgrade saga could fail more than the Longhorn one

[@clementpruvost8670]

Cool ! Windows Vista developement retrospective ?

[@the2323guy]

i have a compaq presario 1400 and it runs windows whistler beta 1 build 2267 without problems. when i installed this build, it ran it for the first time with no problems. maybe try using a different computer :/

[@misterkuda704]

Can you do a redux of the Windows Vista Development history?

[@Custmzir]

Hey man can you pls help me get a windows xp pro 64 bit ISO to download I couldn't find it anywhere in the web

[@octokid264]

I mean you could try to Upgrade to Neptune from M.E

[@andreytop1gg]

Build 2416 worked in a VM, but don't work in real hardware. I used VirtualBox

[@MickeyMousePark]

out of curiosity does this computer have an Intel processor?

[@theforerunnerreclaimer]

Belive it has a pentium something

[@feanored]

You should use a DOS floppy and change the dates, to a time before the whistler expires

[@AstralSnowstorm6157]

Alternate Title: "Upgrading through Windows Whistler Pre-Luna Builds but Everything Goes Wrong..."

[@namesurname4666]

Can you review windows vienna (vista mod) and not xp vienna?

[@jimikissa8353]

Yes that would be great!

[@superwholocked7418]

Michael is Druaga1 if he never smoked

[@Lightyboii]

If you would copy the processr.sys file of the first build to the broken ones, would it help it perhaps? Since that file worked, it might also then...

[@amconners]

banana.ani is a cursor, but the reason it fails to copy when running Setup from DOS is because of the CD driver on the boot disk. DOS CD drivers work by creating a system device which MSCDEX can then use, and whatever name you give it becomes a reserved name within DOS just like any other system device (e.g. CON, COM1, etc.). the 95 and 98 boot disks used a device name of BANANA for the CD driver, so when Setup tries to read banana.ani, DOS recognizes it as the name of a system device and redirects the read attempt to that device instead of reading from the filesystem the simplest solution is to just use the 98SE boot disk instead. Microsoft changed the name of the CD device to MSCD001 in 98SE, presumably because someone somewhere had a file named banana and ran into this same problem

[@mywaterbrock_isgo]

Great Video!

[@smoggysling4663]

Nice video!

[@RodrigoBadin]

Go through all Windows 10 builds too

[@RodrigoBadin]

@Štefan Darvaš one build per year at least.

[@-GameHacKeR-]

Has to be a microsoft default driver issue for something your computer has. PCEM version could be interesting ;)

[@acidric]

Hi. Can you take a look at GMac OS? Thanks.

[@d-tech3190]

A bit late but I'm pretty sure the BSoDs were due to unsupported CPU.

[@aanjaneyamehrotra2100]

Alternative title- windows whistler installation annoying micheal for 35 minutes straight

[@addiesworld1855]

You should try a different machine for the upgrade saga. Maybe the 98 PC would have a higher success rate for Whistler.

[@kennysbusdrawings]

I dont like it when my kmode exception isnt handled

[@aby2828]

can u pls do the windows 10 update history

[@thewindowstechchannel974]

The real title: The Windows Whistler Upgrade Saga! (Upgrading Through the Pre-Luna builds, but Everything Went Wrong)

[@nenamoree9]

"The Windows Clean Install Saga"

[@rastanley1027]

btw the bsod says proseser.sys thats prob why it might not be suported

[@GuestyMC]

Lol only 18 dislikes 😂 This proves that almost everyone likes MJD's vids 🤣

[@sosopwsi829Jjw9]

I really don't like vista but I respect people who like it

[@i05af]

Seeing this makes me wish someone leaked an oddysey build :(

[@notthatntg]

:-( too.

[@CatsRobloxOther2nd]

Why? There's hundreds of modified windows isos that attempt to replicate what oddsyesy would have looked like

[@slashtiger1]

Banana.ani is *_not_* a driver file. It is an ANImated cursor for use in Windows themes... There's quite some difference between a driver and a cursor file... Just so you know. FYI: .ANI are animated cursors, .CUR are still (non-animating) cursor files.

[@RealOscarMay]

Good video😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[@gavinhang619]

Windows 7 Beta Upgrade Saga?

[@mattelder1971]

Banana.ani isn't a driver, it's the banana shaped animated cursor! LOL

[@lilianamirassol7107]

Do a video of windows 1.0 beta builds

[@titantvman-l5v]

Betawiki Said The system may bugcheck with error code KMODE_EXEPTION_NOT_HANDLED when attempting to install drivers.

[@Cunninghamily]

17:41

[@TobStonk]

Wait a sec... That's not the $5 windows 98 PC

[@prycwrn]

35 seconds ago, time for a new good video

[@YeanYean1993]

I know what you mean man. That kind of stuff happens to me a lot.

[@Jesse88789]

Go through all Microsoft Blackcomb builds

[@brandynbaldwin9805]

Ah I mean I was able to install up to 2296 just fine but couldn’t do after that

[@adomantm]

Try update longhorn to server 2003

[@adomantm]

Oh yes

[@cubinoid3399]

8:28 = KMODE_EXEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

[@Yasser_1245]

Where are the windows nt update saga part 3

[@notwin69]

Me casually having mjd curse

[@rebeccadale6335]

Install win 98 betas on this laptop I know I'm late

[@verygenericname]

YESSS

[@Bingtube69420]

The KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED error occurs when the software or applications overwrite each other's memory. It causes crashing of the software as well as results in a blue screen.

[@sadplayer65252]

7:20

[@TheFakeVIP]

These videos are probably going to be at least 45 minutes long *Looks at duration of video.* Well then ... I'd hate to see the cutting room floor. :-)

[@aydenrw2719]

I've always wanted to install Windows prototypes on real hardware but old computers are expensive

[@ExperiencersInternational]

Upsetting, Windows seems to not like you xD

[@izzetHesenzade-uh1st]

❤❤❤❤

[@Whisler]

Next NT 5.0 builds

[@henrybarwick6792]

62nd Comment! Wow.... Not an achievement. :(

[@Mahanagha]

Like always mjd luck is bad😢😢😢😢

[@NAANG360]

I named my games folder software and gave it a icon of tree so my parents wont touch it