The Wire Iceberg Explained

[@johntenconnary144]

You should make different videos this is garbage brother

[@Ryychii]

Man does not like the wire

[@Benny-Fazio]

Your mediocre stupid iceberg has no bearing on the show itself, which if anyones here they already know the show is amazin

[@leethistlethwaite4381]

Like the late great Bob Marley sang, "you can please people some time, but you can't please all the people all the time" Ino class video mate, insightful, well edited, etc etc 10/10

[@GuccVarucc]

@DonSeriously-is9lbit’s not new. Some fan made it up years ago and everyone ran with it.

[@thedudeabides3138]

This is a terrific video, well done and thank you for all the time and effort you put into it. Johntenconnary, you should watch different videos because your comment is garbage brother.

[@GuccVarucc]

Stopping video at the, “ weak season 2” take.

[@NzaneYTTV]

Stopping video at 1:41😂

[@1882uoL]

Same

[@trashfireenthusiast6196]

Season 2 > Season 5 anyday

[@catinashoe]

Season 2 seemed weak or maybe just strange on initial watch and then you realize how much you love it on a second watch through

[@danpreston564]

I love season 2. The petty politics leading to tragedy is just heartbreaking.

[@drigonfirefox]

"S2 is the weakest" "Bubs bully is easily the most evil" "Dukie becoming a heroin addict is better than watching the entirety of dexter" Man this dude got some wild takes

[@RohanDasgupta-f7x]

He’s spitting with the 3rd take tho but yeah screw the rest

[@MidTierVillain]

The second season is one of THE best seasons of The Wire- every season breaks down different aspects/layers of corruption/crime. Yeah, you have the corner boys, you have the bosses of those corner boys, but who’s the supplier, the distribution? How does that work? They show all that, including the law enforcement involved, and the unions involvement.. it displays nothing is black & white, the entire issue lives in the grey.. The Greek, and his organization only use drugs to fund a bigger operation which was hinted during season 2(terrorism/global conflict).. Season 2 is fantastic.. every season is a calculated layer to a well baked cake, you can’t take one away without it destroying the rest. I feel you could’ve dug deeper for more unique facts about The Wire, and its connection to other series like The Corner. Shorty was part of Frank Mathew crew..

[@georgenewman4464]

Anyone who claims that Season 2 is weaker than Season 5 can't be trusted to comment on "The Wire" at all. Season 2 is terrific. Season 5 is rickety as hell, though the portions that *don't* involve (a) the very unfortunate "Baltimore Sun" setpiece or (b) McNulty's absurd prank on the entire city are fine. Unfortunately, (a) and (b) together make up more than half the runtime of Season 5, so it's significantly weaker than the first four.

[@MidTierVillain]

@@georgenewman4464 I agree, I felt they could’ve left the serial deleter part out, and focused on how the newspaper/media has an affect on all of the above.. how they play a major role in spinning narratives, and pushing certain politics- and, embellishing on certain stories for ratings, and numbers to increase. I also agree if anyone says season 2 is the weakest link, they can’t be a true fan of the series- because, that season is extremely important to the overall message the series provided.. it’s the major component for the kingpins of each section to remain where they’re at, and how the newer guys coming up takes over… plus, the inside corruption from the FBI, and the union itself, because of numerous of reasons, which boiled down to providing extras for union workers not having enough hours to survive, and take care of their families. I loved the running prank with the police van, lmao, that was genius connection to how that one thing caused an issue for another by accident.. Cheers!

[@CGoody564]

Although it is necessary in the context of the entire show, I hate it on its own and is a slog to get through for me.

[@speabody]

5:53 The Greek was not untouchable, he was an asset. Agent Koutris was not corrupt, the feds thought him more valuable on the street than behind bars. Fitz explicitly tells us this in the last episode of season 2. The Greek was allowed to operate so the feds could collect intelligence under the banner of counter-terrorism. 14:14 Pretty sure Mouzone says Dante didn't crack easily. Why would he lie for Dante's honor? This doesn't change the likelihood that he either wasn't beat up enough for Omar's liking, or he's disappointed he talked period. 26:15 the joint broke him? The scene where Cutty quits says Avon thinks otherwise.

[@drigonfirefox]

Dante did give him up is the point. If it wasnt muzone he could have very easily died. Brandon understood this. Baliey died knowing he wasnt the main target he couldve tried selling him out. The only people to snitch is bubs who omar understands because of his addiction, and dante. Dante snitching was proof that he wasnt cut out. I mean shit even the crack fiends omar employs dont rat on him. He is litterally less reliable than a single mother with a heroin addiction and baliey who also was into somthing.

[@mikkyrevelljr7289]

The wire is a slow burn but is incredibly rewarding if you pay attention.. I didn't like it at all when I was a kid but now being 33 it has become my favorite show of all time.

[@uncleroganjoe3284]

Loved it as a kid and At 33 still love it 😂

[@elmascavidal1797]

Season 2 is very slept on … it took me watching it like 4 times to realize that

[@CGoody564]

I still hate it on its own. It's necessary in context of the entirety of the show, but I still find it a slog to get through.

[@jonnykilroy9762]

If you've seen Simon's latest work "We Own This City" there's a character that shows what I think most likely happened with Daniels. Or at least something similar. I won't spoil it but it's ironically played by Jamie Hector who played Marlo on TW

[@TheChicagoJunkie]

I thought the same!

[@chrismeeks7707]

Season 2 is far from the weakest… in fact, it’s the most important season which sets up the rest of the show. The issue with season two is that it’s the first time the viewer is introduced to a brand new theme, which is also a staple of each following season. It almost feels like a different show at first, but once you realize that season three brings in another new cast of characters you start to see what David Simon and the writers were doing. I think it’s a fantastic season and arguably one of the most important with the introduction of the Greeks and their connect, which is something that’s a major story driver.

[@mikemcgowan7278]

I stopped watching after you called Season Two weak. You really need to watch it again.

[@PureAnusTommy]

Came to say the same thing!

[@CGoody564]

Meh. I still hate it on its own. It's necessary in the context of the entirely of the show, but taken alone it is definitely the weakest imo and I find it a slog to get through

[@habdman]

Good video, people often forget that icebergs tend to be well-known or curious facts for the most part. You got my like, wear it in health!

[@Ryychii]

I appreciate it, I made the video mostly for fun and because I thought it was interesting. I get that most of the facts weren't really that obscure or revolutionary, but the show is over 20+ years old and there's not many unanswered questions.

[@sebhammond3841]

A few people didnt see the need for your vid but i rly enjoyed it. Thanks for making it. I have been fanboying over the wire for the last 6 months on reddit and thought id know most things by now. But you shared a few things i had not at all thought of! I have the boxset and want to watch those prequel shorts now. I will say that i don't think the gail from breaking bad connection is there, haha. I guess lots of unexplainable conicidences come up..

[@kpaw1019]

The second season is, IMO, the second best season.

[@rainbowjeremy-t3v]

yes, because its the second one idiot

[@mbglosser]

How’s this an iceberg? They’re almost all well known, easy to look up facts about the show

[@DezuKiwami]

I didn't know many of these facts, I found it pretty interesting. There are definetly more intriguing icebergs out there though, maybe there just isn't much to find about The Wire, despite it being a great show.

[@hoodjiujitsu3834]

Shhhhhhhh!!! Let him cook 😂

[@theFRIS]

I was gonna say I want to hear from someone who knows more about the show than me, and I don't know that much below the surface, so this was a waste

[@evan2128]

Sorry but this was disappointing, also Randy being cheese’s son was confirmed by David Simon himself

[@torstentvhd4003]

How have I not seen this??? In a huge fan of the wire and have always hoped that this show would take off online but it never has. Thanks for making this vid

[@awfulfalafelwafflerofl2800]

As I was scrolling through my feed, my brain read the thumbnail as "They Were Icebergs"

[@Benny-Fazio]

1: said second season was bad, needs a rewatch & more attention paid. Invalid from there 2: these are just random facts from the show that if you paid enough attention to it you would already know 3: rly not tryna come across as a hater, but u should do something different with the show content wise, not episode reviews that’s been done extensively, & it didn’t need an iceberg. At least not one thats this obvious

[@Ryychii]

I understand where you're coming from, this was mainly just for fun and something I found interest in making. I just wanted to talk about my love for the show in a format I enjoy, even if it didn't need one. (Also, I really do enjoy the second season, it's amazing in it's own right. I just meant that compared to the rest of the series, it's a little disconnected from the overall focus, which is why I said ARGUABLY the WEAKEST season, not a bad season by any means.)

[@krookedshade9939]

Fucking couch critic

[@CGoody564]

Nonsense. It is necessary in the context of the entire show, but taken on its own, I find it's a slog to get through and definitely the least entertaining to watch.

[@erikwilliams8692]

Not an iceberg at all my friend, there’s nothing speculative or theoretical here

[@Setanta19]

Series two is the best. When you do a rewatch you'll agree

[@Ryychii]

I still love season 2, the only problem I have is that it's kind of disconnected from the rest of the series plot wise.

[@Setanta19]

@@Ryychii in what way?

[@Ryychii]

@daveroche1762 Seasons 1, 3, 4 and 5 focus on the drug trade in Baltimore with an established set of characters we follow throughout the series. Season 2 takes a bold and different turn by focusing on the shipment of illegal goods and human trafficking which was definitely entertaining to watch, but the rest of the antagonists took a back seat to focus on something else. Again, not bad in any way, just different compared to the rest of the series. New characters, new villains and a new plot thread.

[@drigonfirefox]

​@@Ryychiime when the show about the drug trade in baltimore, showcases how drugs get into Baltimore. Truly such a waste of time

[@charlessmith31]

1. Season 2 is often thought of as weaker on first watch, but is actually a very good and strong season upon multiple viewings. 2. Almost every white supporting actor and most black supporting actors on The Wire, had small roles on Homicide:LotS, which was based off of Simon’s book.

[@holirocket2633]

Kennard was also the lil boy who wanted to be Omar that Bunk saw after the big shootout that got one of the girls who rolled with Omar crew go back watch it crazy foreshadowing. season 2 if I'm not mistaken

[@jrapny]

Holy Shit! I completely missed that Rawls scene in the bar! Brings more meaning to his first to McNulty.

[@NOTESLAY]

Still wondering why Michael suddenly got super weird around Cutty...like he knew Cutty was a diddler but never said it

[@Ryychii]

Michael has trauma and PTSD from his step-dad and is extremely cautious of older men who seem "too friendly" towards him. Cutty by no means was a pedo, but Michael didn't know that.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

Michael doesn't just get uncomfortable around Cutty but pretty much every adult male (look at the way he acts around Prez, and his reaction when Dukie suggests he goes to Prez for help) because he got molested by Bug's dad.

[@315toxx315]

Michael felt Cutty was helping kids for the wrong reasons after he found out Cutty was messing around with the mothers of his boxing students.

[@unsilent_bob420]

I'm not sure how anyone can claim to fully understand the complexities of The Wire with just one pass. I've watched all the way through probably a dozen times and I still see stuff in YT vids that I didn't catch. No offense creator, but yours isn't adding much to what viewers can find elsewhere. And besides talking about Season 2 being the weakest (yep, you're a noob alright).....you're playing every Clay Davis sheeeeeeeeeit to start? What are you 12?

[@CGoody564]

These are more fun facts about the show. Theres no iceberg talked about here

[@chrisyoung8301]

Bunk is responsible for Randy's foster mom getting burned in the house fire and put in the hospital. He had an drunken affair with miss anna and lit his clothes on fire in her bathtub. When McNulty arrives to get bunk miss anna says she had to take the battery out of the smoke detector. She never put it back in so the alarm never went off to waker her up when the house gets set on fire.

[@ronfrmdadotte]

Ed Burns is a fucking genius. Such a good story and show

[@aydenkaszas]

The chess part blew my mind.

[@yoCBOOGiE]

Kenard was in season 2 imitating Omar

[@mcomiskey7]

Cheese is Randy's faher.

[@darkhobo]

Law and Order and The Wire can't be the same universe. Because in Law and Order there isn't Nuance. And in the wire it's all Nuance.

[@copperfronts1679]

i turned off the video when u said the 2nd season was the weakest season.

[@kakarot3.074]

It was😂

[@abruhigoham7472]

The wire is based on the corner, the corner has a character thats a teacher lady, that lady had a daughter who was abducted and killed, that same story is told in homicide life on the streets, the person who plays the suspected killer is chris rock. The star of the corner deandre boyd is in the wire. Read the book and watch the miniseries. 100 times better than the wire. Rip Gary.

[@harrydavies6184]

Can tell you'd only just finished it for the 1st time. Season 2 the weakest? Hell no!

[@TribalScan.]

This is underwhelming at best

[@CaptainTripppz]

twenty thousand leagues beneath the sea: knenard is avon's bastard.

[@jasongoldberg4474]

I don’t get how you convey something to “illiterates” by putting it in print, or how you gain any fan favor by randomly insulting a marginalized group of people. If you’re gonna be rude, at least back it up by even mildly enhancing the subject you’re exploring. F-, generously

[@CGoody564]

I wholeheartedly agree that the second season on its own is weak. It is entirely necessary in the context of the shows entirety and i understood why in hindsight, but it is still a slog to get through for me.

[@privateuser7]

Pilotredsun in the background, nice

[@DarrisHunter]

What was the wire prequel

[@_PatDog]

Possibly the worst pre-planned, edited and uploaded KZbin video I've seen on this subject. In your words, "I added a written spoiler warning because of you know, illiterates". Ugh! Wrong on so many levels, and that's just the start of the video, wow!

[@cripplesunday1]

Turned off when I saw someone else say you said season 2 was the weakest

[@Matt-j9r]

Season 2 weak? We used to make shit in this country.

[@toma7747]

Season 2 is honestly interesting and ties together into season 5 and prop Joe and Marlo honestly I prefer season 2 to season 5

[@The_GrumpyGills]

Carver got promoted to Sgt for being a mole in the MCU for the higher ups. Did you even watch the show?

[@Ryychii]

My bad, forgot to mention that part.

[@rei_frajernami_philleotardo]

27:40 im fucking sure Furio would have noticed that right away

[@TTJJCC]

Did they ever say that Cutty worked for the Barksdales back in the day?

[@Ryychii]

They did, he was a soldier for them before getting arrested about 10 years prior to the show. He's highly respected by Avon and the whole crew.

[@marlonthomas8042]

When did they say he worked for them? He was just a known and respected hitter as far as I know

[@idrissbelmejdoub6632]

@@marlonthomas8042 There's a scene with Barksdale and Cutty on the day of his release, barksdale set him up with a gift and job opportuntiy

[@marlonthomas8042]

@@idrissbelmejdoub6632 yeah I caught that But I always took the tone of it to be “we know you’re capable, so come work for us. Here’s something to get you back on your feet” I always assumed he was a slim Charles kinda dude… just freelance high quality muscle known for putting people down

[@thewelshbeersnob2783]

@@marlonthomas8042 you’ve got the right of it. Cutty’s original time on the streets likely predates Barksdale, at least predates Barksdale in his time as the kingpin.

[@pratyushthakur8766]

I thought s2 was the most gripping

[@fox_e_crow3276]

I’m sure I’m not the first one to point this out, but the intro song for every season is *not* a cover of Way Down in the Hole - Tom Waits performs the song in the 2nd season intro. You can’t cover yourself, can you? Next time, maybe wait more than a week, do some fact-finding and reflection, then put out your silly churn ‘n’ burn Iceberg video.

[@JOGA_Wills]

3:16 yo i always thought Marlo was gay too and he was going to get caught somehow through Rawls seeing him around the gay scene

[@jacklewandowski4818]

Should’ve talked about how Nick from season 2 makes a comeback during season 4

[@trollsworstnightmare3769]

Season 5.

[@KKano_Frost]

I always wondered this because he went to witness protection

[@kevinwheesysouthward9295]

Watch the second season again. You’ll like it much more

[@Chimagic]

This video is 3 mins in and I know it’s rubbish. Season 2 is underwhelming to those who don’t know the wire

[@jezebulls]

Everyone beats their heroin addiction in jail whether they like it or not

[@mach1mustangguy992]

Seriously?! Season 2 was up there with the first season! Season 5 was not my favorite

[@cr0be]

Season 2 is not the weakest season

[@dogeimpala]

ok

[@lowkey4520]

6:01 the dirty cop working for the greek is From Oz another HBO classic

[@johnshooter4763]

What iceberg? I turned offf at 0:23

[@alilameda]

Waylon

[@burningrose_bailey]

i love you ryychii

[@Ryychii]

Sorry, can't date fans 😅😅😅😅

[@WillJordan3]

Most of these facts are just surface level details from the show lol

[@thewelshbeersnob2783]

You lost me at s2 is the weakest. But no, in all seriousness: No offence but you can kinda tell you’ve come straight off a first watch and into this video: 99% percent of the stuff here any fan who’s been around for a little while will already know. Also a lot of these are “surface level”, like you missed how the guy that the 6th floor balcony jump was based on, Donnie Andrews, was actually acting IN the scene when it’s adapted into The Wire (he plays a character of the same name who dies in the shoot out before Omar jumps). IDK man I’m not trying to hate on you. But fans of this show know their stuff, a list of facts you can find on Wikipedia is just not gonna cut it for the Wire.

[@JayP7.62]

Iceberg?

[@limbovectors4138]

Mate you seem like a fine Gen Z person. You clearly have t yet grasped the show, plot and production. I concur with the other guy who stopped watching when you said weak season 2. For me it was that and your issues with the Tom Waits title tracks. Go watch the wire a few time over a few years then make a video. This some bullshit.

[@fernandojara5953]

i love this video

[@matthewlee913]

Shiiiiiiiiiittt...............

[@CeaserTAMG]

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[@GoinHAMnoBurger]

This feels racist idk just does

[@Ryychii]

How?

[@VeneziaBeats]

Wtf

[@GoinHAMnoBurger]

@@Ryychii stopped watching when you confused the drug dealer with the bully. They don't even look alike

[@TheSunKing]

stop being weird bro

[@GoinHAMnoBurger]

@@TheSunKing get a life and out the KZbin comments if they bother you that bad BRO

[@brain4154]

this guy clearly doesn't understand how an iceberg works or what it even is lol

[@lowkey4520]

3:04 the guy who plays brother mouzones bodyguard is Actually a real life drug dealer if you watch the corner. his teenage years was based off tht show good show tho. over the wire

[@Guru-ue2yp]

Who was tougher? Chris or wee bay?

[@JayP7.62]

Bay. But I think Chris was colder.