The Wise Soul of Vinnie Paz on The Travelers Podcast with Brother Ali

Vinnie is a groundbreaking MC whose words are tatted on Hip Hop enthusiasts around the world. This conversation is extremely real, and we’re grateful for all that he shares.
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[@mattvanvalkenburg3959]

My wife and I lost our son in her 20th week of pregnancy back in 2020. I would play Vinnie Paz Marciano’s Song on my commute to work and cry. The song really helped me get it all out. Helped me deal through a dark time in my life. For that I thank you Vinnie

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

That’s a beautiful thing. Thanks for sharing. Praying for your continued healing.

[@mattvanvalkenburg3959]

@@BrotherAli_Travelers Thank you Brother Ali.

[@JasonDilliams]

​@@BrotherAli_Travelersin Chicago Vinnie paz had to hide in his bus when he got pressed. No credentials Cept on wax and he got merked on wax by several emcees including king magnetic, Apreme and Lord Lhus just to name a few

[@McSwagBurgerXL]

When you expect Ali and Vinnie to have dope conversations about rap

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Backatcha

[@queenieqt2033]

I always known vinnie had it tough, he speaks his suffering in his music, i love box cutter paz

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Honestly an hour conversation about just music would be kinda lame.

[@xraided199]

Just tears running down my face through the conversation

[@Tommy_Unders]

Speechless. 2 legends.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Enjoy!

[@MrWicked61671]

Italian-Sicilian here. Been a fan of hip-hop since the mid-late ‘80s. Both of y’all are two of my favorites. I’ve been rockin’ with JMT and VP since they debuted in the late ‘90s, and then I discovered you, Ali, not long after that. Anyway…bear with me, I’m long-winded like Paz, it’s in our DNA. 🤌 My father was murdered at the end of 2021. He was the best father and man EVER. Anyone who met him, loved him forever. He was literally the definition of selfless, loyal, and his love was always unconditional. He was not only my hero, but he was my best friend on this magnificent planet. When this incredible conversation was posted my entire was crumbling, and not just because of my father. SOO much other tragic shit just kept happening to me. Without typing an even longer novel and re-living the past in the comment section, to sum it up in the least amount of words, 2022 was the worst year of my life. I had to say that so this would mean more. Thank your for this. I cried a few times with Paz when he started talking about his father. Wish I would’ve discovered this a cpl years ago, but I’m am truly grateful I discovered it now. Again, thank you for this. It helped me so much, and I leaned some gems from this conversation. Grazie mille. 🙏 PS - please get VP back for Part 2. ✌️ and ❤️. 🫡

[@PrezPoet]

This is a side of Vinnie Paz that I never knew existed. Great interview, Ali!

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

So grateful that he was this generous with us. Major honor.

[@Steely_Fran]

Jedi Mind, Heavenly Divine, Steadily Shine...

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

👊🔥💯

[@SaifullahVincenzoLuvineri215]

my brother, it was an honor to be a very small part of this very big and important journey you're on.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

You’re a big part of it, dear brother. So much love and gratitude.

[@robrien4]

Spilled Milk touched my soul in a way that no song ever has. Not repeating the sins of our fathers. Pertains to me as well. I’ve never heard you speak with this much vulnerability. Absolutely broke me down. Love to both you guys. Thank you sincerely.

[@mhholmez]

I got to know today that Vinnie Paz has an alternate account . . . that is if this is really him.

[@jaywills5898]

Vinnie has been my favorite rapper since I heard retaliation for the first time. Hearing that made me really dig in and find everything he was ever a part of. I didn’t realize at the time how important and how much his music would help me get thru. I’ve been a heroin addict since I was like 16 years old and it took me forever to get my shit together. I’ve been clean for almost 5 years now after around 8 rehab attempts and being locked up multiple times. Somehow his music touched me and moved me more than any other artist ever. My father passed away when I was 21 from a heart attack unexpectedly and it turned me into someone I can’t even begin to recognize but Vinnie helped me more than I could ever explain or show. Idk man but the only other thing that I leaned on at my darkest times were vinnies music and a manga series called Beserk.

[@princepaul6739]

I originally listened to this in work on the headphones, Im a Philly dude, Italian/ Sicilian, but Brother Ali helped me understand Paz through this interview. Both these dudes are dope people. Thanks 🙏

[@earllang6809]

Box cutter Pazzzzzzzy. What an amazing human being

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Agreed!

[@marcstanpozecki604]

Wow! Best intro ever. Vinnie Paz 4ever!

[@homagetv4481]

This is the realest and deepest conversation I've ever heard between two artists. Respect.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

It’s a gift

[@joshuaking1749]

Paz ain’t ever gotta apologize for that. That’s beautiful.

[@xraided199]

Vinnie you have kept me clean, I got engaged to your song, I have walked beside you and you have walked beside me for much of my adult life. And I feel blessed. Brother Ali thank you for this conversation, brought to light so many things. You two are amazing human beings.

[@dantorres7755]

Two of the people that have transformed me and my son. Thank you both for doing what you do. This is a great day in my life.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love to you and your prince!

[@dantorres7755]

@@BrotherAli_Travelers had to listen to this twice. Like I said earlier, the two of you have transformed me into the man I am today. And the I want to thank you and vinnie paz for being so open on this podcast. Please let Paz know that his song spilled milk has helped me change certain things in my life for the better of myself and for the betterment of my son. The two of you got my crying tears of joy and tears of realization that I’m not defective, I’m protective. Love you both. Please keep doing what the two of you do.

[@_h0nkyk0ng_]

As an underground hip-hop fan for over 3 decades, and a massive fan of Vinnie and Ali, I'm embarrassed to say I had no idea this podcast existed. You know how they say the universe speaks to you when you need it the most? It did today, as I came across this episode in the most random search. I've been listening to both of you for over 20 years. Back when I was performing from 2001-2008, I could only wish to have the reach you both did. I still remember the first time I heard Picket Fence, I literally broke down in tears. That song touched a part of my soul that no other song had at that point in my life. There were so many profound words in this episode. I am grateful I was able to hear two respected MC's speak in such a vulnerable, honest manner. Thank you for this episode. I'll be listening to it again.

[@jos8791]

Thank you Brother Ali for publicly sharing this conversation with Vinnie. You’re right about it being a break through. The cry I had listening to this stirred my soul. I lost my father 7yrs ago to a drug overdose. I was 36 & having those 36 yrs with him was still not enough time. We didn’t get along for a most of that time but we reconciled in my more mature years. I can’t even imagine losing a parent at such an early age. This convo inspired me to sit down with my 4 kids & express my gratitude for the few years we’ve had so far. A glorious experience I do not take for granted. Thank you, peace be with you..

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

That’s a beautiful thing my friend. Thank you for sharing.

[@notmyrealname3901]

Vinny’s emotionality really got me in my heart. Love both these MCs

[@robrien4]

Wow. Vinnie. Spilled Milk. That song floored me and to hear him talk about this is touching. So touching. Love you so much brother. That line about more time with our sons cause of your song. Wow. Peace to you

[@SecretHieroglyphs]

Vinnie Paz stop apologizing for being sincere brother - you've done so much for the world.

[@matteogottie6772]

vinnie music changed my life his songs helped me more then any therapist or meds that could

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

He has a great gift. Thanks for listening my friend

[@richardrobinson4159]

Man, this was an amazing interview. I have so much respect for both of you, Brother Ali and Vinnie Paz, but respect has doubled with this interview. It was deep and compelling. Peace to both of you Brothers. Thank you for sharing.

[@TinTin-ov6cg]

One of my fondest memories is when you came to Sweden with Atmosphere to put on a show many years ago. You guys crushed it and after the show I approached you to see if we could exchange a few words and to maybe shake your hand, I figured it was a long shot but not at all. I extended my hand and you just grabbed it and pulled me in to give me a hug instead and offered to take a picture. That was very nice. You, Sean and Anthony are fantastic, so humble, warm and polite people. I have been rocking with you since Rites of Passage and God Loves Ugly so I am very grateful for that experience. Much love brother, peace and blessings to you and yours, Vinnie as well!

[@WizDomSon]

Very deep, reflective and introspective. First time I've discovered this side of Vinnie Paz. How about empathy, not pity or sympathy. I imagine we feel this.

[@Bigchunks3]

Thank you guys

[@camaflauge]

This was heavy.... The tears we shed for Allah are sadaqah from the eyes.... great interview !! We need a part 2.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Ameen and agreed

[@miltonjmusic]

This had me in tears. Gives me strength to work harder on being the version of myself I hope for one day

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love. Thanks for listening with your whole heart.

[@torbjornvanderheyden8887]

Brother Ali when he came to antwerp i was estatic and happy and he actually took the time to talk to me, we talked hip hop and islam he introduced me to slug. He really is one the best artists i have ever met. We took a picture and somewhere i still have it :) it was a day to remember !

[@Justin_Watson23]

I can't listen to this until later, but I guarantee this is gonna be awesome. I'm excited for it, & much love to Ali for having Vinnie on.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Love back. It’s a true pleasure.

[@tomheap5611]

I can't believe a conversation as real and inspirational as this only gets these kind of views. Keep doing what your doing brothers 💪

[@esoligh]

I listened to this in mental health respite care and this and Marcianos Reign made me cry through my pain and got me thru it

[@donaldnemitz8170]

Beautiful conversation! VINNIE IS A LEGEND! 💯

[@FangsAnalSatan]

Thank you for this. In a modern world with charlatans spewing venom about what it is to be a man, what defines masculinity, to listen to two grown men discuss how you two have just done is beautiful. The genuine humility, the love, and the righteous truth you both are saying is remarkable. You've defined what it means to be a man without even trying to define it outright and this conversation I was given the chance to hear will give me a lot to think about.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

That means a lot. Many thanks and much love.

[@bheemabachus5179]

That totally surpassed my expectations. What an amazing conversation. Thank you guys for being so open to the world. This is the kind of stuff that the world needs more of.

[@Eskatology2012]

oh wow what can i say that everyone else hasnt said, truly inspiring to see another side of vinnie outside the rhyming, def brought a tear. bless

[@danielplainview5085]

I listen to letter to mom every day

[@am3r1k1lla5]

Fuck man to hear vinnie get teared up made me cry I love you pazzy may Allah be with all of us G

[@Asimpnamedslickback]

This conversation right here is THERAPY salute!

[@Bexen28]

I love listening to you speak, Brother Ali. Thank you for being you! 💐🌸🌺

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

🌹💚🙏

[@joshuaking1749]

Y’all are both amazing souls.

[@enemyofmankind777]

Incredible conversation, Ali!

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Many thanks. The credit for this one goes to Vinnie. So grateful.

[@marcstanpozecki604]

This conversation between both of you... it changed something in me. "You're not defective, it's protective". Wow. I will take note of that for my 11 year old girl. Peace. Wow! This whole 1:50 min is Real.

[@mariosalazar7896]

Man, please keep these coming. Your music helps many people, and these podcast also are. I hope you have repeat episode with these great artists.

[@claudiogentile5920]

Alhamdulilah, cried like a baby.. never knew he was sicilano ! 🤲🏼TY Brother Ali

[@ericxel]

This episode gave me so many refreshing perspectives on multiple aspects of my own dedication to my craft as well as my own dedication to my souls path 🙏 I probably won't be able to rock a crowd like you two anytime soon but I feel a bit Refreshed for my next level of training and recording ✊️ blessings yall , thank you both

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love. Thanks for listening and checking in.

[@shermsmoke]

Vinnie one of my favorite MCs ever. This was amazing! Thank y'all for this ✊

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

🌹👊💚

[@notmyrealname3901]

2 of my favorite MC’s ever! How am I just hearing about this interview?

[@Jail_Cake]

This man has stopped people from fatally harming them selfs without even meeting them. The first of many things in music also

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Full agreement!

[@TargetGoBoom]

Both you and Jedi mind tricks (eventually Aotp as well) were the first artists I indulged myself with by listening to your entire discographies. There was something so rally informative listening to every track, no skipping, just listening. Of course you and Vinnie give off different vibes and perspectives in music but this episode just provides an even better understanding of both of you as people. Thank you Brother, truly with there would've been something like this with Eyedea.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

I really appreciate your reflection, and agree about Eyedea.

[@CASSEMELLO]

I started listening to brother ali when he dropped the undisputed truth in 2007, I was only 20 years old at the time. I am now 35 and Ali is 45. I can't believe we all got old so quickly. I appreciate the lyrics and personality of Ali. I couldn't be more thankful to have come across this interview/ podcast.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Time and age are truly relative. I honestly feel better than I ever and feel like I’m in the ear physical, psychological and spiritual place in my life. I think it’s important to keep company with elders that I look up to. Helps keep time I n perspective. Thanks so much for your kind words.

[@unknownartistsproductions4405]

Both yours and Vinnie’s music has saved me so many times through my healing and through the hell I was once living in, being in an abusive relationship. It’s so beautiful to find that the people I felt you guys were through your music/words is exactly the people you are everyday. I am so happy to have listened to this podcast and I thank you both for sharing. Much love! ❤️

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Really appreciate the kind words. Thanks for being here!

[@josue3118]

This is one of the most beautiful podcast episodes I've ever heard. Nothing but love, honesty and deep insight here ❤

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Vinnie brought the beauty. What a gift

[@wallyandjilly375]

Hearing Vinnie cry makes me wanna hug em so bad 😢❤❤❤grown man tears are so heavy ❤

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Same

[@wallyandjilly375]

@@BrotherAli_Travelers my girl and I love everything you’re doing, brother. You’re one of my teachers 💪

[@shukokazimoto2446]

This podcast has just kept growing from strength to strength. The first song that I heard bro Ali on was civil War than I downloaded Farheem, and I have never looked back. Thankyou for bringing Vinnie on the podcast. Shout out to you Big Ali

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Thanks for tapping in my friend

[@joshuaking1749]

Y’all are a perfect example of humility and being humble doesn’t equal weakness. I have seen people equate those things and that’s not the case. What Paz said about manners made me think of that.

[@nasihatofficial]

Yes Yow! 2 Legends!

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

🌹🌹🌹

[@baranobama5375]

I have never heard Vinnie so vulnerable. Brother Ali, you have a great podcast going on here. Will definitely check out more episodes. Cheers

[@specswizardry]

this was a dope listen. as an underground hip hop artist of 44 years, I can say Paz get's it.

[@justinfranz6335]

So glad they shared this story with us, these are true role models and legends.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love

[@RedHerringMedia]

2 of the most magical lyrical crafters in hip-hop together once again! You both are able to tap into that quantum field below the superficial surface of rap and express those transformative wisdoms you have garnered through doing the inner-work of the craziness that is thrown at us in this life - with continuity consistency might I add! which is very rare in the game

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Thanks for the kind words. I can speak for both myself and Vinnie and say that the depth of Hip Hop is what guided us.

[@joshuaking1749]

What y’all said about cancel culture is so real. I always thought it should be counsel culture instead of cancel. Yeah, the mistakes were made, but if one just keeps having it rubbed in their face without any direction to grow and move past it, it’s not a good thing.

[@barsmckenzie777]

Thanks , such a great interview with 2 of the most generous emcees of our culture

[@barsmckenzie777]

I'm at 1:18:00 and I'm hearing Vinnie's story and I'm cryin man, may Allah grant you with strength and sabr my brothers, YOU ARE STRONG SUBANALLAH

[@andreacee2120]

This was an amazing conversation between 2 beautiful souls. Very, very heartfelt. Bless you both 💚

[@jannehyttinen6789]

cried for the real beings in the podcast mashallah! blessings to Vinnie and Ali

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love

[@putyou12]

This is amzing in the making been along time fan of both of you and grew together older. Much love to you and vinnie.🙏🏼

[@FukoffDick]

You two have brought me much knowledge and wisdom :) thank you. And also i appreciate the humanity you two show in this podcast. Inspiring

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

He’s a beautiful person.

[@trippasnip]

Thank you both! 2 legends to me, I love the honesty and lack of ego. I ain't religious but bless 🤙

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

One of my favorite conversations on this journey.

[@Wordscomeatmidnight]

Thank you so much for this podcast. It is so inspiring to hear my teachers speak on such intellectual levels. I’ve been needing to hear you guys speak outside of hip hop for years. I appreciate what you are doing here. Keep up the good work my friend. God Bless You.

[@mr.martyr8573]

Vin has been in my top 3 for like 10 fucking years. So good. Thank you so much for this.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

He brought the beauty

[@mr.martyr8573]

@@BrotherAli_Travelers So did you my brother. So did you.

[@LOBMusicProd]

One of the most honest podcasts I've listened to... Waiting for the part 2!

[@lofiloco]

How did I miss this... thank you

[@YageBeats]

Peace Brother Ali & Vinnie Paz. Salute!

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

☝️

[@younese9374]

I love you both for the sake of Allah, thank you very much for this podcast. Thank you for blending hip-hop and Islam together. Thank you for your companionship, may Allah grant you the companion of the Prophet in Jannah. I hope one day I get to be in your divine presence. ربي يحفظك ويرعاك و يبارك في عمرك نسأل الله ان يجمعني بك علي طاعته.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

‏اللهم آمين

[@calebadams8525]

You gotta do another episode this is wonderful!

[@robbratcher4675]

So beautiful man. Ya'll are my two favorite emcees.

[@ChunkMoney91]

Damn man I never wanted this one to end. Get him back!

[@werkingdadrecords]

Thankful for the honesty and humility and sharing from you both 💯

[@andregiacomini4145]

1:46:16 "... So what do we do now, talk about rap?" 😂😂😂 yo that was one intense conversation man, I appreciate this, much love for all listening to this

[@chrisparrott348]

Fuckin rights fellas. Great talk, Vinnie Paz is a legend without the struggle of life none of this would happen, worth it. Lost my dad when I was in highschool, I relied on JMT and the demigodz. Their lyrics just always made me feel confident, much love Paz.Brother Ali whens Apathy's interview? Celph? R.A.?

[@DarthmallE]

What a wonderful podcast to start the day off with! You two and your music are truly inspirational. Thank you for these🙏

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much love!

[@xraided199]

"Something can't heal that you won't allow to be treated"

[@MrSchpeiy]

Amazing podcast, glad I found it. Thank you 🙏

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Glad you’re on board.

[@russellhughes4496]

A lot of wisdom for any artist. Great interview

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

This was a special one for sure.

[@tiredleader0621]

This is probably the most beautiful podcast sessions I've ever listened through. Thanks.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Truly grateful.

[@2basick]

I needed this thank you guys!! ❤❤

[@alexanderwilkins9440]

Vin ain't a rapper he's a fucking icon and becon of wisdom who so happens to rap well. Don't mix the 2. Love this man

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Feel you.

[@zac4130]

incredible

[@mojeed3181]

This is beautiful.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

He’s a beautiful soul.

[@tyroneruckaruckaali2541]

Respect

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Backatcha

[@DEXATUA]

Yuusssss!!!! 😍

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Right???

[@felab5313]

MAD RESPECT FROM AUSTRALIA 8

[@andrewmcquade9413]

I was at a Brand Nubian show in Philly in the early 2000s, Brother Ali played and Vinnie was there backstage, crazy they coulda been friends since then.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Absolutely. But all things in their divine times. Grateful to be where we’re at now.

[@k3tum]

Aleyküm selam from İstanbul. It's nice to have you in Üsküdar.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Üsküdar cennet cennet!

[@MBeats27]

Alhamdulillah. this helped me so much

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

That makes two of us Masha’Allah

[@esoligh]

Marciano’s Reign!

[@MelloBlaze]

Jedi Mind Tricks. Vinnie P! Another dope podcast episode 🌊🌊🌊

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Much appreciated!

[@BIRDSFlYINH1GH]

Assalaamu alaikum, this was a good one brotha, mashallah.

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Many thanks

[@zakofmakof4652]

Vinnie paz is a fair rapper honest one big fan of him also rapping about his mental healt he help alot i wanne just know one thing do he use meds for his mental healt problem he had? A salam alykoum in sha allah answar wil come

[@BrotherAli_Travelers]

Wa Alaikum As Salaam ! I hope to have him back on the show Insha’Allah.

[@zakofmakof4652]

@@BrotherAli_Travelers djazak allah hu ghair, wil help alot ty

[@wilburkookmeyer5804]

Epic!