The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Hearts of Stone - Bad Ending (letting Olgierd die)

Hearts of Stone bad ending; Geralt lets Olgierd die in order to learn how to save Ciri.
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[@long_time_hiro8297]

Ooohhh so he basically tells Geralt how to avoid the bad ending? That's pretty cool

[@geert574]

+dianna k don't hate on the Mighty Solas!

[@luf4rall]

+Solas Elven Apostate and it comes full circle.

[@VexWerewolf]

+Solas Elven Apostate The scariest thing is that a couple of things he does suggest he's actually at least somewhat aware he's in a video game.

[@dragonieprayer]

+Andreus seriously? Guess I mustve missed something

[@Divisiblites702]

+Solas Elven Apostate how does he tell you how to avoid the bad ending when it already happened unless this was somewhere after he first met him at that bar that they didnt show in the main story

[@ThirtyIR]

O'Dimm is one of the scariest characters in a video game period. Love how 'normal' he looks; those are the ones who are the most depraved!

[@Marguns21]

Thirty IR i do wonder tho, why does an almighty being like hem follow rules? Like what is it that stops him? Maybe he is just bored xD

[@saintgeekSG]

Marguns21 It was said that he only follow rules because it would be too easy and boring if he didn't

[@SuperDeeyay]

Maybe their power comes specifically from their pacts themselves? Breaking it would break their power, or banish them from that dimension. Just spitballing.

[@stuv1996]

God hole Exactly. He's based on the character Walter O' Dimm from Stephen King's books. He once destroyed an entire version of earth with the plague and had a war between good and evil, all just for fun. That's why he does everything he does.

[@Sanderus]

Gaunter O'Dimm as a character draws inspiration of various sources, including Stephen King. The main one however is the Polish folk tale of a nobleman Twardowski who made a pact with the Devil and got outsmarted by the legal trick. In the folk tale the Devil could come for the nobleman's soul after granting "impossible" wishes and when the two meet in Rome. It turned out the Devil paid the nobleman a visit in the tavern called "Rome". The Devil however lost his grip on Twardowski and dropped him half way through to Hell. Twardowski landed on the Moon. This tale is also an inspiraton for O'Dimms obsession with mirrors - you can see so called "Twardowski's mirror" in Węgrów in Poland. Allegedly when one looks into it one will see their - often grim - future.

[@Changeling-hn3hn]

I am not going to lie, O'Dimm freaked me out to the point where I wanted nothing to do with him. Didn't take any reward or anything. That's how you write a good antagonist.

[@vipervickan]

Wow!!! That's exactly how I felt too! Man after visiting the old blind man, I was quite freaked out..

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

I thought whatever he gave you would be cursed so I told him to fuck off, too.

[@larsrichter8088]

Or when he put the Spoon in the eye of this dude...

[@Mikaaa4614]

That's why I had the bad ending too. I was too scared of him to get in his way and fight him. I just let him do his thing...

[@connorteall4416]

Yeah I did the same thing, decided to go back and get the good ending, feeling like a cheat lmao but I wanted him alive lol

[@notnero5280]

"Tell me what reward you've chosen" "Bring my dad back from the store. He went to get some milk and never came back" "Sadly, I cannot be of service. There are certain things even I cannot meddle with"

[@ameerzoabi9078]

"Your dad is beyond my reach"

[@jordandennis6794]

"That is beyond my power"

[@_Gandalf_The_White]

OK this made me laugh out loud, well played

[@65firered]

"What about your mother?"

[@dannyeazye]

''thats not exist''

[@Rubbermanlol4578]

Well...I'll be. . . Gingers do have souls...

[@billysavage8674]

Will why doesn't this have more likes

[@jarofpickles4057]

Wrong comment section.

[@glowhoo9226]

Not anymore

[@TheBeastr]

@@WhiteCourtain u can like it. Someone already went past the 666 so your good!

[@juanarocha8629]

Yeah, their partner's souls

[@MicahDreyer]

Any ending where you owe the Devil nothing is a good ending if you ask me.

[@adityafawwazafa778]

you dont owe him tho

[@Bendetoma]

@@adityafawwazafa778 Thats what he's saying. Since you dont owe him anything, this is technically a good ending, whereas the other one you piss him off real good, and who knows when he comes back, Geralt wont die of old age anytime soon.

[@adityafawwazafa778]

@@Bendetoma but geralt defeated him fair and square, geralt said that if he wins o dimm will free olgierd, and thats what he did, and o dimm never cheat. I dont think hes going to kill geralt

[@Bendetoma]

@@adityafawwazafa778 O'Dimm (the Devil) doesn't want to lose, regardless if it was fair or not, thats the point here. He's angry as f*ck if you defeat him.

[@Mlyodas]

If you choose a wish, he might as well come back and abuse it. He is the merchant of mirrors after all.

[@Turtle1631991]

I would call this "natural ending". I like to roleplay in RPGs. Ie. acting as if I was the character. And as much as I feel sorry for Olgierd I am NOT putting my soul in the line to save his skin. Unlike player, geralt cannot read walkthrough or quickload.

[@DinoCoke]

You can easily figure it out by yourself what to do. Asking around about Gaunter O'Dimm gives clues to the challenge. Like 'find a mirror that can't be broken'. Then some doctor gave huge hints as well (can't remember them anymore.) And the challenge itself isn't hard. The timer is just a pain in the ass. Always being on the move. I made it in one go. Found even a powerful sword in the dimension.

[@elefanamir9087]

Yup. No reason for Geralt to put himself in that kind of position. Olgierd isn’t really a great regardless even before he met O’Dimm

[@billcipher801]

i call it the lazy ending

[@billcipher801]

@@t.d.2016 U think geralt would let evil itself keep doing his thing? If u think olgeird was the vilain here u didnt understand the story

[@AntiChris84]

The ending made more sense for me, they’re both bad characters but if you skip O’Dinn’s world you miss the chance to get the sliver viper sword and the sabre so gameplay wise it’s a bad ending but from a story perspective it’s a “lesser evil” choice like most of the choices in the game, there’s no right or wrong answer. And telling people they don’t understand the story is just ridiculous.

[@3rdPartyOP]

I need a gif of Gaunter walking from the sky. "When you blackout the night before and your boys think you're dead but you show up at the party the next night."

[@ibexking69]

I got you fam

[@laithhah9331]

@@ibexking69 "i got you Fam" 💀💀doesnt reply for 12months

[@I.Re-em]

the gif be like: back by unpopular demand ...me!

[@youssefhegazy-x6f]

@@ibexking69 "I'm still waiting Fam"

[@silverblade357]

Holy hell... O'Dimm detailing how to ensure Ciri survives the White Frost is an awesome detail. Well done, CDPR!

[@Kidcrowley]

Yeah, kinda sucks if you played the dlcs after the main story though, like most normal people do lmao

[@maxSVB]

@@Kidcrowley then don't ask for Ciri

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

@@Kidcrowley you can't ask for ciri then tho

[@cenapbaba]

who betrayed ciri? i missed that point while playing the story.

[@MerrasMies]

@@Kidcrowley I just finish HoS, and after the main story. Didn't make any difference since I saved Olgierd, and I think most of the people save Olgierd

[@liamwood9791]

Got this as my ending and never felt it to be a “bad ending”. Although it was sad to see Olgierd die as he was a well written character, he was hardly innocent and certainly not worthy of Geralt putting himself in harms way to save his soul. More interestingly, whilst playing I felt O’Dimm was such a fascinating character, and lore wise he felt so op it didn’t make sense for Geralt to ‘defeat’ him. Great, great expansion full of great characters. And the subtle hints at O’Dimm in Blood and Wine are chilling!

[@Ko700el]

Indeed, I never got why people think this is a bad ending, olgierd was an asshole for no reason even before he met odim, and had the money to walk away from anything that couldn't resolve in a fight.... The only reason I went with saving him (which I did only once in my several playthroughs) was to get the 2 swords..... Poison viper from odim's land and iris from olgierd... Which only the poison viper is good until blood and wine because iris doesn't level up (without mods) so it was a heavily underpowered joke when I got it... There is literally no reason to save him without meta-knowledge, so storywise it comes natural to just let odim do his thing with the way he and his gang of idiots behaved to me. I never cared about his problems and got more annoyed when I found about his background like what happened with his wife... For me this is the normal ending and the other one is the "paragon" sending.

[@l.c3994]

Only defeated o dimn for the game play. Then reloaded the save and got roach a little gift.

[@stopkins222]

It also seems like O'Dimm kinda likes Geralt. He doesn't screw him over with rewards even tho some of the requests are poorly worded and could be twisted against Geralt quite easily.

[@James-yz4gw]

@@stopkins222 O'Dimm is a mirror. Be fair to him and...

[@SmithYorkinster]

@@Ko700el I absolutely agree with you. After so many years, and still, for me the only good reason to go for the other ending is because otherwise you won't get the Iris and Venomous Viper swords. Honestly I believe this ending to be canon, not the other. Let's face it, Olgierd von Everec is a dick who just got waaaaay in over his head. He tricked you into killing an innocent man (which for Geralt is probably a huge F you), and he himself killed many innocents or even worse, poor Iris... He absolutely does not deserve you putting yourself at risk by facing what, at that point, Geralt would most probably believe to be (and clearly is) a being of unmeasurable power. Geralt is noble, but not suicidal, unless someone he would care about was on the line, which is clearly not the case. He would probably just let O'Dimm get it over with, free him from the mark, and just fuck off. Extra "not happening points", if he hadn't found Ciri up to this point, he clearly wouldn't risk letting Ciri face the Wild Hunt alone because in the meanwhile he got too distracted killing himself by fighting Satan to save, as Dikjstra woul say, "An ass. An Oaf. A Twit".

[@LaVitaNouva]

A demon who give your actual GOOD advice in life, in your daughter's life.Now that's what make O'Dimm even more awesome. Evil, yet fair to his deal.

[@gelul12]

certain Things have too be played out a certain way even O'dimm knows and respects that. thats why he gave the advice :)

[@MistahJay7]

He's not a demon

[@miraclepeter1412]

@@MistahJay7 from my POV he is a demon (in the Witcher world but idk ) Master of mirror Mirror of Gaunter O Dimm Mirror of GOD Mirror=reflection Reflection of GOD=demon or devil or satan But i must admit, this DLC is so cool and teach us a lot of lesson

[@MeinungMann]

He also gave Geralt adivice how to handle his medic girlfriend at the wedding to get her back in the spirit

[@thegreenreaper6660]

Actually, o'Dimm isnt purely evil, he takes advantages of human stupidity and greed? He grants people's unreasonable wishes, yet those people dont realise that such 'unfair advantages', dó come at a high price!

[@RetroGore91]

Such a fucking good dlc. It's content actually worth money. Good job CDPR

[@PotatoPoro]

Worth all ten dollars I spent on it.

[@Killerkwoi13]

blood and wine was even better

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

+Killerkwoi13 Agreed, which is why it's 20 dollars, but I find this one got my skin prickling more and I felt it tested my moral standpoint a little more

[@jumpinshade]

and lets not forget the other 10 they gave us for free shall we ?

[@Finalrellik99]

That whistle at the end is why this is my favorite ending

[@its_ljl]

I could listen to O’Dimm whistle for hours but seriously imagine hearing that at night by yourself

[@Cheezer3089]

You can hear some village kids sing the song too. Hauntingly beautiful

[@niknikh6080]

Bro, I played hearts of stone, blood and wine when I am alone in a hostel room on my laptop, the feeling was an unforgettable memory

[@jaywonlee1436]

Wow, it's amazing how they intertwine the expansion into the main story. Mirror basically gives you all the 'correct' choices for the best ending, that's fucking awesome how CDPR handles this sort of thing.

[@walterc.dornez7672]

I also like how O'dimm actually had a hint of care when he told Geralt about ciri, like he actually wants things to go well for them, no condescending tone or anything.

[@gelul12]

+Walter C. Dornez (The Angel Of Death) i think hé respects Geralt in a way and knows how powerful ciri is.

[@walterc.dornez7672]

gelul12 actually ciri might be the only one who can defeat him

[@TheOldBearTime]

+Walter C. Dornez (The Angel Of Death) Maybe he knows that this world is doomed if Geralt does not find Ciri and he doesn't want to loose his playground. Could be partly that and partly he does actually wish the best for Ciri and Geralt. Or he just simply wants to fulfill his debt to Geralt.

[@indiancambel]

the second sounds meh but does make sense sort of..

[@SupremelyCaffeinated]

This might actually be the first expansion I've played in a while that had two endings with good pacing and ended.... Right.

[@MrBandholm]

+Darkrise714 Well to be honest, this might very well be the game of the year... And it might be (is for me) the new mark for a fantasy adventur game. CDPR has with the wotcher games made themselvs the top company, and if they can deliver with their next game, they might very well be the top gaming company for many years to come.

[@Pyrokan]

+MinecraftPro15 Nope. Gaunter and Olgierd story is veeeery heavily based on the legend of Pan Twardowski. See also: Faust.

[@lovegaming619]

+bandholm I hope they dont get over them selvs. Like ubisoft pumping assassins creed every year instead of taking their time and make a good game. I wouldnt mind waiting 2-3 years for another witcher game if i know its gona be REALLY GOOD. :)

[@MrBandholm]

***** Well the succes of Witcher 2 did not make them rush Witcher 3. But you are right, they have made it to the top, but now they need to stay there

[@MrPathorn]

OMG O'Dimm make a good ending walkthrough for Wild hunt LOL, I did not expected that.

[@abdelrahmanelhawary8718]

me thoughts exactly

[@LaVitaNouva]

A demon being honest and give you a hint to best ending, now that's a twist.

[@tanbui7569]

Yah, Seriously. Unless u read spoiler or choose with luck, It is quite hard to know what Ciri wants or encourage her for positive choices

[@MrPathorn]

Soji Tendou Well one time you think it is right, it is wrong. Like "Ciri Calm down" and "let's forget about it" I thought it was the right choice

[@EliteRocketBear]

Not really, I got the good ending on my first playthrough, didn't consult guides. Just played the characters, in essence it boils down to being a good human being and good father figure to her.

[@Sam_Graves]

***MAJOR SPOILERS!*** But then that's what you're all here for, anyway. Rewards: Swift as the wind: Capisoon of Lament. Saddle that gives Roach 100 stamina and randomly 'addles' a monster while in combat. (not sure what that means in terms of game mechanics. Likely stunning/staggering) Never want to go hungry again: Horn of Plenty. Food/drink item that never depletes. 40 vitality recover out of combat, 25 in combat, 5s duration. Bottle of vodka that's always full: Bottomless Carafe. Essentially this makes it so you no longer need alcohest or other liquor for potion/bomb refills. Make me rich: 5000 Crowns + Uncle O'Dimm's disappointment. I don't want anything from you: Nothing! Bonus experience, though.

[@schatzkammerein]

+Zerachiel Thanks for that!

[@MedyGames]

+Zerachiel sadly at that point of the game all those rewards are meaningless :D.. still nice though

[@behi-u5w]

+MedyGames not exactly true, theres an upcoming Dlc next year;)

[@RaphaAyala]

+Zerachiel These rewards stay on the inventory after starting the NG + mode, right? D:

[@MCraven120]

+Zerachiel I chose nothing.

[@SuperTalentedAngel]

The acting in this DLC, this scene particularly, is so incredible. I can actually feel Gaunter's maniacal delight as he reveals the "moon" to Olgierd, and Olgierd's terror when he realizes he tried to cheat the devil and failed. Such raw emotion makes this game well-deserved of it's Game of the Year Award.

[@kylelussier7323]

The dlc of the game still beats most games I've played easily.

[@MrTelboy]

it goes to show how good the writing in the Witcher 3 is when you see comments like on this video where people are ok with siding with what is essentially the devil and justifying it. to me there is no "good" or "bad" ending just two ways it can end.

[@lolioliol360]

+MrTelboy Yeah I always save before stuff like this so I can do all choices but the first time I finished HoS (without looking anything up) I let Olgierd die, he made the wish of eternal life, and a deal with the devil. I'm not going to interfere with that shit, who knows what Master Mirror could do to you if you you went back on your word. Chose nothing for the reward too (I'd finished the story so didnt have the option for Ciri) I didnt regret my choice, however I did go back and choose the other option, beating him at his own game, you get tons of sweet loot as well as explore that awesome as shit location. I just didnt want to fuck around with him the first time cos I didnt know. The "good" and "bad" aspect of it is debatable but theres no denying its very well-written.

[@L3g0m4nn]

+Basically Godzilla I would definitely have choosen the neverending vodka xD But the viper silver sword is just too sweet.

[@Veridiano02]

O'Dimm is not the devil. You can say "no thanks" and he will make nothing to change your mind. You can ask him to help another people, he will do it by contract. You can say no, or... You can think about what you reallt want. Geralt does not end bad with O'Dimm. Even if he does not defeat him, Geralt can follow his path and O'Dimm will never visit him again (if we stick to the ending, Geralt will live in his vineyard on Toussant, alone, with Yennefer or with Triss), the writter will not write anything and CDPR will cease to make any witcher stuff, they're going to make Cyberpuny 2077, so Geralt days will end peaceful, with O'Dimm intervention.

[@silviogrijalva8801]

@@Veridiano02 he killed a guy with a spoon

[@borshevskiy7847]

To me both endings are bad. Devil will be back. It is in that world where Geralt lives, God allows creatures like O'Dinn roam freely, do their devil things. Raises questions about God identity and personality. If true, extremely deadly trouble for everyone living under such God. But forget O'Dinn, look at the world, filled with hatred, suffering, thiefs, liers, etc. God's creation? I image what O'Dinn or God would answer to my last point. Kill everyone in the world. No thiefs then. Or make me not able to see hear, so world will disappear to me. Or move me to some horrible lifeless place - no thiefs there, no suffering) Wish granted, evil laugh. Be careful what you say/wish for. Edit: should remember to take my own advice here

[@loganthekrogan2182]

I love the advice he gives Geralt about Ciri. I personally believe we should take these types of actions in our lives. When someone is at their weakest find a way to make them laugh. When someone feels betrayed, we should let them open their rage as opposed to bottling it up and acting composed. We should support and encourage those who are scared but not act in their stead. Because we should believe in them even if they are weak.

[@MaxLebled]

O'Dimm is straight up telling you how to get the good ending in the main quest, which is pretty interesting from a storytelling standpoint

[@emmjaySODMG]

I saved him and got a dope ass sword

[@emmjaySODMG]

+SirChris314 fuck i do a alternate playthrough to get the shovel do u know the lore behind it ?

[@7xetrov615]

+King Lowe The shovel is from the caretaker, not a reward from O'Dimm. You don't have it means you missed it after kill caretaker at Von Everec house. 10% damage return straight to HP. Perfect for a long fight when enemy has high damage.Imo, compare to Iris of Olgierd, both have its own strength, but it is worth to have both. :)

[@emmjaySODMG]

+Tai “VortexLord” Dinh thank you i really appreciate it

[@iLikeMonkeys1232]

+King Lowe shovels shit, iris is better fuck these clowns

[@drouintheoneandonly3669]

+The Mad Titan what do you mean by dodging super fast, How Can you get something from o'dimm that Will do that ?

[@victornguyen6009]

So the “bad ending” is basically a cheat sheet to giving you the good ending in the base game... interesting

[@jevilz9858]

Olgierd looks like David Beckham 😅

[@rammgunn]

@Slime Station the first time i played Hearts of Stone I saved him even though I know he is an a-hole. I just wanted to see the "good" ending. I've finished the game 10 times and I always let O'Dimm get his soul because this is the BEST ending!

[@emma6754]

David Beckham vs Adam Sandler

[@damo9961]

A tall, muscular, ginger David Beckham. They have the same haircut, I don't see much else of a commonality.

[@jackslade3178]

*looked

[@algoshosdigitalplayground2226]

@@rammgunn there is no good or bad ending. It depends on which you think is right or better. Personally, I thought that letting O'Dimm take Olgierd is better.

[@SSJKirik]

After watching this cinematic, O'dimm comes off as way less of an absolute evil. Strangely, he comforts Geralt and says "You will find her, I am sure of it." From this point forward his voice is... gentle? Its weird. I wonder of O'dimm is tied to some machinations even he can't reject..

[@miguelhenriquecosta]

Fuck, it's been two years but I just finished this DLC. Nonetheless, O'Dimm also refuses to let Geralt know his "true name", his true nature, even tho he justify this as "You're still to be useful to me".

[@gustavohmalvares6964]

I don’t know if you’ve ever played gwent the ccg, but you can see master mirror talking the usurper into starting his coup in the empire. He’s always been there

[@systmerr9445]

Something about the way he says "I never cheat" combined with the music, his expression, and the way he slowly walks toward Olgierd never fails to send shivers down my spine.

[@thatdudewelove8498]

well, he's technically not wrong. he'd make a good lawyer, obviously.

[@r.d.k.4166]

Interesting. O'Dimm is supposed to be evil, but he gives you all you need to know on how to get the (IMO) best ending in the game.

[@PrutteHans]

Never breaks a promise.

[@trekstarsam2494]

You got him another soul to torment. Of course he does that to thank you, and to imply that he possibly could seek you out again if he again needs your help.

[@haterproof_0259]

@@trekstarsam2494 he shouldn’t have made a deal with the devil

[@pablito4762]

Good guy Gaunter O'Dim. He helps Geralt to avoid the bad ending. A good friend indeed.

[@canerozdemir4195]

She will come to you defeated: Her failure of controlling her powers with Avallac'h. He refers to the snowball option as a good choice. One will betray her: Ciri finds out Avallach's plans for her. He refers to the go for it option as a good choice. She will grieve for a friend: Ciri will want to visit Skjall's grave. He refers to the visiting the grave with Ciri as a good choice. Fear will engulf her: Ciri's anxiety about the plans of Philippa and Margarita. He refers to the send Ciri alone to talk option as a good choice. Dont let her feel as you sold her out: Visiting Emyhr with Ciri. He basically tells Geralt to not accept the coin which Ciri will appreciate a lot in that situation.

[@mathsrodrigues667]

thought the grief was about vessemir death

[@jamelgallagher6602]

@@mathsrodrigues667 no. When vesehmir dies you never grieve with Ciri but when she finds out about skjall she goes to his grave and asks you to join her.

[@Yayatouu]

"And never, ever let her feel as if you've sold her out."

[@D3monL3A1]

its not about saving olgierd its about fucking up Master Mirrors for trying to use you

[@TheBangooman]

He does try to slime away like a bitch smashing all the mirrors and spawning spectres to slow you down when in the riddle, so he's certainly not a good willing entity.

[@SuperArppis]

Hm, you know. Now I feel bad about saving Olgred. But then again... Master of Mirrors has ruined many, many lives.

[@TheBangooman]

***** It's not about that. The questionable morality of a person doesn't automatically make it so they deserve to have their souls forever stripped from them. Only fanatics believe in such harsh punishments. I personally don't care one bit for Olgier, but I saved him nonetheless. And it's not just him who sufferef from making a deal with O'dim, his wife suffered too, his father in law, the cementery guy, etc. What I loved about this expansion is that the freaking guy actually felt like the most dangerous monster Geralt ever faced.

[@sam101497]

+TheBangooman Right!? when I asked him what he was and he said he would spare me, it was the only time in the game I felt there was no way Geralt would win.

[@JoeMartinez18]

Wife beater... not really. He just touched her once... doesn't make a man automatically a wife beater, bandit? no doubt.

[@Silmarisi]

We have very old folk tales where the devil is kind of like that. No more truly evil than any human can be, but definitely not good, either - in some way, he's holding a mirror against you, your nature. A trickster, really. In those tales, you can make a pact with him and he will always, always give you EXACTLY what you say you want ... but you better phrase your wish right. Words have power, after all. And sometimes, what you think you wish isn't all that good, either. Many times he can be tricked in turn if you're really clever, but he will win your soul just as many times. Also, I don't think this is a bad ending. Just different. But then again, I have a very hard time thinking of anything in Witcherverse in strictly black and white terms.

[@Veridiano02]

Agreed. But in this old tales, it's not the devil. Tales older than christian conception of the world already warn about that stuff. "Carefull what you wish... It may come true".

[@HolyknightVader999]

Then he's no devil. He's a malevolent spirit, but he honors his word. An honorable demon, if you could put it that way.

[@burningsinner1132]

He wasn't twisting words just cause though. Olgerd never intended to fulfill his contract, so his words got twisted through and through. Geralt was not like this and that's why G.O.D. played fair with him, warning about negative implications of certain wishes, postponing their execution untill Geralt confirms it and generally sticking to the spirit of the contract. Not to mention the freebies - do you think G.O.D. told you that you will meet Ciri just to keep your spirit up?

[@Phox345]

Like how this ending if you play before beating the Base Game, O'Dimm basically tells you how to get Ciri Becomes a Witcher ending.

[@Narcissus7]

I got this ending and I feel like it's what I'd have done in that situation, I did not want to save olgierd for all that he's done and the suffering that he caused, not only he brought misery upon himself but his wife and plenty of other people considering he's a pirate. He deserved nothing but this. On a side note, I don't really think you can defeat master mirror, he will most likely come back eventually. I only regret not having saved olgierd cause I dont get to have that dope sword. Oh well

[@jayer117]

What you said about Olgierd can go both ways. Imagine all the messed up things O'Dinn has done...considering he is a demon.

[@DarkPretender205]

I had my doubts about saving him thats for certain, I chose to save him, and because I saved him he basically got his humanity back, he lost all his emotions because his heart turned to stone, so if people lose their emotions they would probably end up like Olgierd not caring about anything or consequences, but as he got his feelings back, I liked how they made him seem like a human again, and he seemed genuinely sad about all the things he had done. :) Also the thing that Master Mirror says when you do beat him: "You are primitive. You think you've defeated me but you are wrong. I can't be killed, I will be back." So your side note is probably correct :)

[@s_ame1135]

You don't wish to save Olgierd because of all his done? That's kinda hypocrite, don't you think? Geralt kills people. Those people in the bandit camps, we don't know their context. They might just be stealing just because they had the same cause as the Temerain Guerillas or the Scoia'tael and we just kill them without a second thought. lol On the other hand, Olgierd's soul doesn't deserve to suffer for eternity. We know his context. He paid his wish with his brother, wife, and everything he loved. He's still a human making a mistake. Still, doesn't deserve to be locked up forever with the devil. You have a chance to save a soul for once. If you saved him however, he got back his heart and he only felt remorse. He will live with that his remaining life. That's his punishment for all his done as a human being. As for his soul, you have given him renewal. In the end, even if O'Dimm seems to be kind, don't let his character fool you. He is still an "Evil incarnate". In addition, his brother, Vlodimir, look up to him as a role model. If Olgierd is really that bad, Vlod would have been a savaged and he wouldn't have act like that when you resurrected his ghost. But I only felt kindness with Vlod even if he's arrogant. lol

[@legion160]

People think O'Dimm actually gave him a Heart of stone, no thats not its a metaphor, He literally partied himself out until he felt nothing, Look up Noise Marines from Warhammer 40k they suffer the same thing, every feeling is amplified until there is nothing left to feel. Olgierd wished to live like he had no tomorrow and he got just that and thats what he did partied and did the craziest shit because HE COULD NOT DIE until he felt nothing else, his bandit and rapist tendencies show up alot more too. (btw he was a shitbag long before O'Dimm, Vlodimir says they went raping and pillaging for fun.)

[@s_ame1135]

legion160 Olgierd is a shitbag but that doesn't mean he deserves to be caged with the devil. He felt remorsed and repentance from what he did. He will suffer for the death of his brother and wife for the rest of his life. No human in that world deserves to be locked with the devil because all of them don't have the same morality as we are here. They think killing there is good just like what vikings are doing in the past. The thing is, we can't really judged him for that. All we can do is make him realize that what he did will haunt him forever and that's exactly what happened when you saved him. O'Dimm on the other hand is still the devil and he won't be killed anyway so at least you had a chance to save a soul.

[@lost_witness_8495]

Just replayed again recently. The scene where he tells Vlodimir "Get ye hence before I take you with me" left a chill up my spine.. very dark character !

[@A_SD123]

Bad ending? You mean the cool ending where a witcher finally has his limits. And not stop a creature that lasted thousands of year and acts human for once. This ending is amazing.

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

Miraculously, I still figured on my own, whitout guide, to land the best ending for Ciri (witcher). But still, picking in HoS to be given how to rescue her even if you already know, is still gratifying. I rather be given the interesting dialogue with Gaunter than any of the other perks he offers. The conversation its itself the best reward, this game is so well written that often you would find more satisfactory to just follow the story and act as your heart would want to do if you were on Geralt shoes than just a few crowns or a sword with some extra 20 atack points. The characters interactions are the best reward!

[@silverblade357]

The morality of this ending gets me in the best way. You can argue that Olgierd's death is justified with all the atrocities he committed. He raided. He pillaged. He was ready to kill that one dude just for a laugh. Olgierd was not a nice guy, but how much of that was him and how much was his heart of stone? Meanwhile, is O'Dimm evil because people prepared to trade with their souls make unworthy wishes? O'Dimm happily gives Geralt simple wishes with no strings attached. Olgierd wished for success, power and immortality while trying to cheat O'Dimm with impossible fine print. This is a shit wish. We don't truly know O'Dimm. Perhaps he would be benevolent if someone made a truly benevolent wish.

[@GOWxSnIpRzZx]

The whole theme of "lesser evil" is very thorough in the Witcher series.

[@Crigit]

Olgierd was a professional bandit long before he ever even heard of O'Dimm. His brother tells you all about how they went raping and pillaging for fun and profit. Defeating O'Dimm does nothing except let a murderer escape justice.

[@silverblade357]

Crigit Honestly, the whole reason my Geralt spared Olgierd was because I already had the viper steel sword and heard about how to get the silver one. Didn't want an incomplete set. Heh. Maybe patch that in as one of the rewards.

[@JoeMartinez18]

O'Dimm is the devil, but one thing we need to make sure... O'dimm is a tradesman, a honest one and he gave Olgierd the wish, but the circumstances were never mentioned. The wish was fullfilled, but now how Olgierd expected. O'dimm is honest, but also wants the deal as fast a possible

[@14Yorker14]

A lot of people seem to forget that O'Dimm killed a man by shoving a spoon into his head simply for interrupting him. He also doomed the professor to imprisonment in his room (and eventually death) simply for searching too hard. Olgierd was far from a good man. But Geralt is a monster-slayer, and O'Dimm was the biggest monster here.

[@Ciraph_]

Holy shit, something's just struck me. When he's telling Geralt about what to do about Ciri, I don't think he's simply telling Geralt how to get the 'best' ending - because some of the things he tells you to do, in particular about never letting her feel as if you've sold her out (which is linked to a key choice that differentiates from Empress Ciri and Witcher Ciri endings) choose a specific ending, besides merely avoiding the ending where Ciri dies. So this could actually be confirming that witcher ciri is the canon ending! At least, that's how I interpret it.

[@L3g0m4nn]

+Ciraph Bingo mate

[@bignate8517]

+Ciraph Well, actually taking Ciri to see the Emperor vs skipping the visit and going straight to face the crones is what determines the empress vs witcher outcome. My first play through I skipped the visit and I got the witcher ending, Second play through went to the emperor and got the Empress ending.

[@tariusrollins7202]

Selling her out means you took the money from the emperor, instead of saying you did the job for ciri, not the money the emperor offered additionally.

[@madzmedia2]

Very good point and theory.

[@getuliogonzalez-mulattieri6833]

In Geralt's words, tortured logic. Witcheress ending is not "the good ending". It doesn't even fit the tone if the book or games. Or the recurring themes of the book that you can't escape Fate which she is clearly trying to do by running away from her heritage.

[@hyruleandbeyond7991]

This was the ending in my first playthrough, but I never felt like it was the bad ending. If I had to choose a side again, I would team up with Gaunter O'Dimm in a heartbeat. He is such a great villian, one I miss terribly after the expansion ended

[@Etidorhpa]

Gotta say... I like this ending more than the 'good' ending

[@Zerath0]

+Aaron T Ciavarra Same here, but I chose good ending to get Viper Sword

[@dark3rthanshadows]

+No Name and more impostantly the super badass looking scimiter

[@marcosamell96]

+Aaron T Ciavarra Yeah, me too. Olgierd never made himself worthy of being saved. I don't see why Geralt should risk his hide for him. While at the same time, the conversation about Ciri has a very boreboding feeling about it, and I love when games do that.

[@PseudoReality28]

Olgierd was the lesser evil. I chose to send O'Dimm to the depths from which he came. Fuck O'Dimm.

[@DarthDionius]

+Aaron T Ciavarra Yeah, I way prefer this ending too. O'Dimm may be "evil incarnate" but he has a code, and he sticks to it. He won't ever mess with your life and your soul unless you invite him to do so, which is poetic, even. In the end, is it O'Dimm who's evil, or the one signing pacts they don't intend to keep? Plus, yeah, Olgierd was never a shining example of a human being, even when alive. He got exactly what he deserved, and paid his debt, and O'Dimm did fair by Geralt.

[@izu8575]

I saved Olgierd only because the "show" he did in front of the burning manor was lit af. And he looks cool.

[@BlackBirds93]

My heart becomes so heavy when I see all the comments are from 7 years ago

[@stuv1996]

In case anybody didn't know Gaunter O' Dimm is actually a character from Stephen King's canon. He is called Randall Flagg (or Walter O' Dimm among many other things) and having read all the many books he appears in, this expansion was fucking awesome.

[@Bendetoma]

"Well! What do you know?" The way he delivers it, it cracks me up every time :D

[@Uborpriest]

Ok, I feel like I'm weird but is this one of the best endings to any video game ever? The villain winning, walking off messing around with the skull and whistling his own boss tune.. it's the bad ending sure, but from a storytelling standpoint this is some USDA A++ prime meat. Literally gives me chills every time because it's so amazing. This expansion is in my top 5 standalone gaming experiences ever.

[@AnakinSkypeWalker]

Beautiful! O'Dimm gives Geralt every tips for avoiding a bad ending in the main story. "make her laugh" probably is referred to the snow ball battle in Kaer Mohren

[@theviking1359]

I resent the title Olgierd knew what he signed up for he made a deal and then he tried to back out of it and a person who is not good to their word is worthless

[@bradhuygo]

I was confused as to why Olgierd was so surprised. He knew that after the 3 wishes he would die, and he was willingly giving them to Geralt. I thought this was what he wanted. To be free and able to die. Confused me a lot in this scene. It didn’t make sense for Geralt to risk his soul just to save a guy who doesn’t even like him

[@ekfliu]

the wish needs to be finished while they are on the moon, he thought there is no way O'Dimm could get him on the moon.

[@snchez2106]

why you call this "bad ending"? There is not an imply that says or proves this is a "bad" ending. Its just a choice imo. Olgierd was evil too, he made the choice to summon a devil or a demon to help him and sold his soul, no one forced him to make this decision, plus I hated the stupid shit he makes Geralt do, Gaunter was only there as an expectator, he is a dark being, that is for sure, but thinking lore wise, is better to have him on good terms and not as an enemy.

[@SaikeeKonosukeLuc]

Wish more people would understand this. So many idiots think Olgierd deserves redemption. He doomed himself through his choice and his ways and even the little happiness he could have from such choice. Keeping his wife happy, because it's basically why he sold his soul. He failed that too.

[@refrigeratedyouth1716]

ks22 I personally picked the "good" ending just to challenge O'Dimm and fuck him over. I hated Olgeird, but it appears he was a sociopath because he truly felt nothing with anyone and thus would take merciless actions. However, at the end he says he'll change his life. So that's nice. Also if you pick the ending shown in the video, Gaunter says he'll return to Geralt in the future, which is very worrisome. In the "good" ending I doubt he'll return to Geralt, considering Geralt outwitted him. (Yes he could technically return to him either way, but that's how tales go).

[@Pers2343]

You didn't understand the story if you think that. Listen to what he says carefully and what his wife shows you. As much as a scumbag I thought Olgierd was for 90% of the story, I came to realise he too is a victim of O'Dimm as the story went on. Olgierd's heart of stone alienated him from his wife, the one reason he made the pact. He was being tortured knowing that he loved her but no longer had the ability to feel anything, and had to watch her suffer. Olgierd did some horrible things, but he isn't a horrible person. Regardless of the things he did, is isn't worth his soul.

[@CMY187]

Marcus Lehmann "Olgierd did some horrible things, but he isn't a horrible person" I disagree. Olgierd is established in Hearts of Stone to have been a bandit, robber, murderer and pillager long before he ever met O'Dimm and had his heart turned to stone. Vlodimir's dialogue establishes that he also enjoyed being a bandit. Olgierd also only harbors remorse for his actions that harmed his wife and brother; he feels nothing for all the other people whom he had hurt, killed and/or robbed. O'Dimm, despite being Evil, is RIGHT about him; Olgierd is a degenerate scum. Genuinely caring about his wife is no excuse. He's hurt and widowed plenty of other women throughout his life, and he isn't remorseful for his actions towards them.

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

Luc Konosuke The only idiot here is you, if you think a man can't be redeemed and get past his horrible deeds. Does Geralt not kill hundreds of men in the game (bandits and such)? So what makes him different? Self defense? Even after killing so many and the game gives you few chances to reason with them so its always some fight to the death? The stupid shit he made you do was important to the plot clearly. It gave background to Iris and Olgierd. You seem to forget that a widower can be a thoughtful person in another way since he is trying to make Iris happy but he couldn't since he lost his emotions after being alive for so long. Once you save him who is to say he doesn't stop his life of banditry as he does give you his sword and promise to live anew.

[@Martynus7]

The pact Olgierd made with Gaunter is similar to a Polish folklore where a man made a pact with the devil for special powers in exchange for his soul. The devil would collect his soul when he visits Rome but he had no intention to do that. Later he stayed at an inn called Rzym which is Rome in Polish. The devil took his soul. This trick was similar for "standing on the Moon together" in the game. 😄

[@vuvuvu6291]

I don't think this is a bad ending. Olgierd is a menace and ruffian through and through. He doesn't deserve to be rescued and he's much obliged to pay his debts.

[@CplYakob]

I love how after the entire DLC is about not making deals with the Devil, and in this ending in particular you see how making deals with the Devil ends, you are then given the choice to make a deal with the Devil and ask for some reward.

[@DarkPretender205]

People saying Gaunter O'Dimm isn't evil is wrong, he is supposed to be "The Devil" of the Witcher universe, there is many subtle hints and not-so-subtle hints that he is a devil and/or a demon, Gaunter makes deals, and the payment is souls, that sounds pretty cut and dry evil to me, but, let me go more in-depth, Gaunter is first seen when you ask after Yennefer and he shares the information to you, for a very small deal, but the thing you need to pay attention to is; Why was he there in the first place, he has an interest in Geralt, he knows Geralt can fix his small issue with Olgierd so he puts Geralt into his debt, Like the children song goes: '' His Smile fair as spring, as towards him he draws you'' ''His tongue sharp and silvery as he implores you'' '' Your wishes he grants, as he swears to adore you'' ''Gold, silver, jewles he lay riches before you'' '' Dues need be repaid and he will come for you'' '' All to reclaim, no smile to console you'' '' He'll snare you in bonds, eyes glowing afire'' ''To gore and torment you untill the stars expire'' He first seems to be acting out of kindness but he is actually using Geralt, he also shows up on a crossroad when Geralt has a meeting with him. (Crossroad Demon?), its an old myth, you can make a deal with the devil on a crossroad, by selling your soul, its not really the deals that make Gaunter evil, its the the amount of amusement he takes in the end of the deals, you can literally see how much he enjoys killing Olgierd, killing Olgierd might not seem like a bad thing in this game, but if you do the good ending, you will see why exactly it was bad, Olgierd lost his emotions and simply stopped caring about everything, his heart had turned to stone, saving him, restores his humanity, and shows how much he regrets the things he did, its not a matter of morals, judging that Olgierd is evil was also something I came very close to, but even so, in my first ending I ended up trying to save Olgierd because, I think Geralt would atleast try if he had a chance, atleast my Geralt would. :P

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

O'Dimm is not entirelly "evil". You see... The mirror is a alegory for human behavior. Every person, without question, are evil in nature. Everyone has a sin, that's human nature. The mirror reflects this nature. O'Dimm offers his services, but the characters are not oblidged to accept them. That's the crutial aspect of his personality... He is the most dangerous entity in the Witcher world ONLY if you "invite" him. He will trick and torture the souls he encounters only for amusement. And returning to the mirror subject, he also punishes people if they commit evil deeds (the spoon curse). Also, and this applies to our reality as well, you should not speak or research or do anything really... related to the evil incarnate. This is not a rational thing to do, doesn't matter religion, culture, social standards, etc. If you see some black magic voodoo shit in the corner of a street, you mess with that? Even if you believe or not, it's better to leave this kind of bad shit alone. The professor researched the evil encarnate and he got punished badly. You do not mess with pure evil. Olgierd knew what he was messing with, he accepted.

[@DarkPretender205]

Rafael Teles I wouldnt say he is entirely evil, because people really do need to learn the phrase. "Be careful what you wish for." But O'Dimm is evil simply because of the fact that he is the literal embodiment of all the humans negative emotions, so not entirely evil, does not excuse the fact he is "Mostly" evil :D

[@GAPIntoTheGame]

Thomas Lindstrøm Is a kid killing an ant and having fun doing so evil? O'dimm is a far greater being than humans. Besides it's not his fault people get dragged into their own problems. The concept of evil is laughable at best

[@DarkPretender205]

GAPIntoTheGame 1: Gaunter O'dimm is not a kid, 2; going by that stand point, would you consider a group of kids setting a cat on fire evil?; I would not say that the kids are evil, but the act itself is evil, burning ants, setting cats on fire, is the same thing, because they are both alive, but you need to remember, children doesnt have a moral standpoint at a young age, as they are driven by impulses and what they want, Gaunter is most definitely not a kid so therefore he can't be classified with that logic, and is therefore evil.

[@GAPIntoTheGame]

Thomas Lindstrøm the definition of evil is defined by oneself or/and society. You might believe that killing an animal regardless of the circumstances is bad thing I might think the oposit, O'dimm is also a superior being than humans and killing us might not be considered evil by his standards

[@JMS-online]

I let him die in my play through, already having beat the main questline... I was going to let him live originally but after the chapter with his wife... he felt no less evil so i figured id let business take place as it was intended. This DLC is better than any movie ive seen this year, superb character development and story arc.

[@21Brawler]

I went with common sense and let Olgeird die because O'Dimm is a literal god. Then O'dimm tells Geralt what a pleasant little errand boy he was. I got triggered, reloaded, banished O'Dimm. 🤣

[@HazyHerbivore]

The way he whistles his own theme song on the way out with the skull. Fucking chills man.

[@muwarriors]

An intersting theory for me, its, despite he is the devil he cannot see beyond his dimension, and Ciri as she told, she was in other worlds even she visited our world, and here we have our own devil :p

[@1.8T20V]

When they both went on their merry way.... and o‘dimm just walks away still staring at you and whisteling his f*cking melody...... i was damn close to jumping out of my own window

[@BigBoss-sr7iv]

2:04 kept you waiting huh

[@constantin5509]

+Big Boss Lol! That would've been too awesome if he had said that.

[@IamYasha10]

WOW O'Dimm just gave us the things we must do to give Ciri her happy ending. Major choices in the original game. Very clever writers.

[@paulschlacter4181]

Even though Olgierd's heart is stone and he lost his fear, love, and other traits, he is still damn afraid of O'dimm. Rightfully so.

[@johnnycomelately9400]

You can call this the bad ending, but it's also the most fitting, on every level. Right down to Geralt's, "if i'm picking between two evils, i'd rather not pick at all."

[@justthej]

Right...dude signed his brother's death warrant. I'm surprised that didn't come back into play.

[@fl333r]

If you ask me Odimm wasnt evil. He was just a trickster troll god.

[@pennclick]

Gaunter O'Dimm would be the ultimate youtube commenter

[@HolyknightVader999]

He was more Loki than Satan.

[@Volkbrecht]

A basic definition of evil is this: knowingly inflicting harm on others or at least accepting that it happens in the pursuit of your own goals. So O'Dimm is clearly evil. The fact that he uses people's vices against them doesn't change that.

[@LoseAlotLuke]

Its so interesting that he advises you down the path of having the good ending in which ciri survives, cool :D

[@TsarofScars]

the fact that O'Dimm is whistling his own in-game theme makes me think that he's not only omniscient, but that he guides the story from the outside himself. He doesn't let you know where Ciri is (hence ruining the story) but he tells you how to save her. He doesn't tell you his real name, because I'm willing to bet it's CD Projekt Red. He's an NPC that's hyperaware of what he is, and he knows he's in a video game, and hence becomes all powerful by manipulating the game to his advantage

[@MissMokate]

are you saying he's a divine dev

[@TsarofScars]

MissMokate basically

[@DirkAustin]

Thats the good ending. Without Gaunter Geralt would be die in Ofier.

[@kindafatkindastrong5683]

"Would be die"

[@SpookyTimestamps]

This ending was honestly my favourite. The strolling away and whistling while knowing there was more to him was fantastically menacing

[@ilyafisenko4164]

Bad? I've got infinite vodka, man. What do you mean bad?!?

[@natethahgr8931]

Creepy, creepy, mockingjay. So O'dim provides information on how to get the good ending for Ciri; that's interesting, a demon providing knowledge. Hmm, for a second there I compared him with Hermaeus Mora. In this video you got a portrait, in the previous one you got a blue rose; do you have to choose between one of them before this moment?

[@FluffyNinjaLlama]

+ImmortalDragonLord Yes, it depends on your choices with Olgierd's wife. It doesn't matter in the end though.

[@Deserit]

+FluffyNinjaLlama Wait, how does the choice with Olgierd's wife affects the ending? I htought the only thign that seriosuly affected it, as in which ending you can choose, was visiting the Oxenfurt proffesor?

[@FluffyNinjaLlama]

+Rafael Eisele That's what I said, probably wasn't clear. :) Olgierd's wife's fate doesn't affect the ending, it only affects what you give him (rose or painting).

[@Deserit]

FluffyNinjaLlama Don't worry FLuffy, it was I the one who got ocnfused sice I knew form beforehand that the rose didn't change a hting but since I am rahter tired as of late my sleep-deprived mind kinda de hte jump that getting hte flower or the painting changed hte ending

[@teoregus5394]

+ImmortalDragonLord I don't considering this a bad ending honestly.

[@IamWalkingDead1]

Am I the only one who thought of Shang Tsung's "Your soul is mine!"

[@Jeanioz]

+Zevran08 References. References everywhere.

[@sashapatsel7170]

"This one time I shall spare you, and not grant your wish"

[@calebdixon7982]

That line write their shows that he is not truly malevolent. He is the Man of Mirrors. The one who is a reflection of your choices and activities.

[@rajeevvarma84]

Gaunter O'Dimm always said he loved manipulating time. So he used time to kill Olgierd von Everec before claiming his soul, i.e turned him old.

[@Auris57]

The melody is frightening

[@Valleyraven007]

The music is so great

[@herptim]

Back you up on that, man.

[@chankahms6271]

i loved the last part with the whistling

[@TheEntryCode]

Those creepy kids singing it make me stop playing and just o _ O for 5 minutes.

[@Daniel218lb]

What a great character development, you can feel essence of evil through his words and eyes. Bad or good ending, this is a masterpiece.

[@chair5613]

I like how he says "never, ever let her feel as if you've sold her out" as if it's the most important thing, yet I did everything else right but accepted Emhyr's money and still got the best ending.

[@VDA19]

Saul Goodman: " Objection your honor, my client was standing on -A- moon, not on THE Moon. "

[@XRobotWarriorX]

Some call it the bad ending but when you really pay attention to the missions, you learned that Olgierd did some terrible things.

[@zenbrown7144]

When he started whistling my bones shivered. Excellent ending. The character of Gaunter O'Dimm was so well written, and interesting, I could never tell what he'd do next. When he stopped time and killed the drunk, pure genious.

[@budders9958]

Frankly, I didn't see this as a bad ending. I feel Olgierd deserved everything he got.

[@GK-iw3hi]

Gaunter O Dim

[@sam101497]

😐

[@cameronfenner9085]

Not sure if he is a god. Never heard of a god who come from the deep pits of hell

[@sam101497]

Cameron Fenner the god of evil so he is probably lucifer.

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

He is the Devil. Master Mirror is no of the many name from him.

[@robertekew]

The game never says "Devil". "Satan" simply means adversary. Lucifer is just a twisted, fallen angel fighting to become a God (whom a third of all the "stars" (angels) followed him when he rebelled). O'Dimm IS EVIL INCARNATE! Geralt plays with worse than the devil.

[@khaosng1398]

It’s soooo good how he tells you, ever so slightly, how to get the good ending with Ciri. Top notch writing from CDPR.

[@ImperialEarthEmpire]

yes this is a bad ending; you let his wife linger in that painted world to suffer...

[@frooskys22]

This may be the bad ending but the final music and the scene of o dimm going away is while throwing up and down the skull is so cool

[@supacopper4790]

Wow, I never know that could be another option where Geralt will ask him about Ciri, and all the advices he gave to Geralt are what we needed for good ending. It makes think that I should be completing Heart and Stone first before finding Ciri haha

[@vendasiax666x8]

5:10 The option to know about Ciry just means "I don't know how to reach the good ending, so please tell me how I will, because I have no internet" :D

[@Azathoth13]

''Wanna be as swift as the wind.'' Now the Roach is a dark horse with a magical powers, not bad.

[@Redwickderrote]

In my opinion Gaunter O'Dimm is not the ultimate evil. Yes - he is no angel. For me it looks like, that he is only a bored god. And he play morbid games with the living to stand the eternity. He never cheat. He stand to his word. He was kind and helped gerald more than he must. And the people who agree a contract with him are not forced to do that. And who says that the souls he collect will be tourmented ? He reminds me a little bit to Sheogorath from Elder-Scrolls - but less crazy.

[@jakeus2575]

That's actually great advice from mirror master at the end there regarding ciri

[@R4Y2k]

I wonder why this ending is considered the "bad" one. Olgierd made a pact with the devil and then tried to violate that pact. He basically brought this on himself^^

[@skaboodlydoodle]

Gaunter O'Dimm from Witcher 3 is much scarier than most of the gimmicky monsters from some "horror" games.

[@konferansjer]

I love how delighted O'Dimm looks during the process, he clearly enjoys it. Like having a glass of good wine.

[@ragenaros4475]

I really don't see this as a bad ending lol, why would i give a fuck about Olgierd and mess with God for his life. In "good ending", you banish him temporeraly, and he says " I ll be back " , So when he is back, Geralt is fucked

[@tukavaraandco7820]

I come back here every once and a while, reminds me how crazy the details are, O’dimm is a mad god, of that there can be no questions. He casually plucks a man’s soul, stops time, moves through space instantaneously. But even the DLC interacts with ‘Blood and Wine’ if you still have his brand Regis comments on it, the woman with the curse of you lift it when she’s back at Corvo Bianco his theme plays while you tell the story. In my mind this is the good ending, you’ve rid yourself of O’dimm, and you’re still on his good side, I feel the best option is “I don’t want a thing from you” cause god damn I don’t want anything he’s touched around me, least of all something he’s created. God he’s such a creepy monster, and yet, oddly charming, he smiles and whistles as he tosses a skull, walking away, I feel like he may return, not in the Witcher, but Cyberpunk and if he does I’m gonna do my damnedest too not piss him off.

[@QuillWorks]

Played this yesterday. I originally chose to let Olgierd die because I wanted a wish but after actually SEEING it I felt so guilty that I loaded an earlier save and chose to save him. I think it was the whistling and tossing the skull as Geralt watches the literal devil freely walk away from him that did it for me.

[@kibateo]

honestly I think this is the "just end"

[@NhanTran-gh9dk]

In my religion, there are no good or bad gods, each god have their responsibility, bless good guys or punish the bad guys, but we always call everything are evil if they come to punish us, i have to reload my save game just to have this ending

[@ItsMrE.K.]

why would you say it is the bad ending. That son of a bitch deserved that fate