The Wonderful World of Pokéblock Adjacents! (Let's Dig Deeper!)

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Linneus

Linneus

Күн бұрын

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@Murkus
@Murkus Жыл бұрын
Testing and not finding a strong correlation for stuff like the friendship values and the poffins in bdsp is the stuff that keeps me up at night
@Tailstraw_xD
@Tailstraw_xD Жыл бұрын
What the? Markass is here?
@Murkus
@Murkus Жыл бұрын
@@Tailstraw_xD It's been 3 years since I was markass, and I've streamed with linneus 100 times
@doublespoonco
@doublespoonco Жыл бұрын
​@@Murkusnew arc
@aabattery5
@aabattery5 Жыл бұрын
What is blud doing here
@Murkus
@Murkus Жыл бұрын
@@aabattery5 linn's my good friend :)
@SkyBlueFox1
@SkyBlueFox1 Жыл бұрын
I realize this is an extremely tiny thing, but I appreciate that the DPPt data is presented with the old-fashioned pixel font, while the BDSP uses the smoother modern font. Strange as it might sound, that sort of attention-to-detail is my jam. :V
@Iinneus
@Iinneus Жыл бұрын
You're the first person to mention the font thing (that I've seen)! It's very fun for me, so I appreciate that a lot. (The Berry Crush segment is also in the FRLG font, since that differs slightly from DPPt's.)
@guillermostaudt6452
@guillermostaudt6452 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit i didnt noticed but kjow that i know im impressed and thanks for mutting this much effort in such a niche topic.
@MrDannyhawk49
@MrDannyhawk49 Жыл бұрын
“Sorry you can only bring out cute Pokémon!” I guess I’ll just have to walk around with my flaming silverback gorilla instead…😢
@WhimsicottFanatic
@WhimsicottFanatic Жыл бұрын
"Sorry Trainer, I'm afraid your Cleffa just isn't cute enough for Amity Park. Oh, but your Empoleon fits in perfectly with its adorable blade wings, of course!"
@inkii-y
@inkii-y 4 ай бұрын
okay this is absolutely hilarious, like wym my absolutely adorable vulpix cannot go it but a uh *checks list* shroomish and drifloon can??? (shroomish and drifloon is still kinda cute to me but hu h) in reality tho they probably just picked some pokemon with existing overworld sprites like drifloon, as its an overworld encounter, and used amity square as a test for walking pokemon in hgss
@DracoAleksander
@DracoAleksander Жыл бұрын
The Sheen level divisions are even weirder than you think here because the whole reason it caps at 255 is because it's an 8-bit system, which can only contain 256 integers (0-255, yes 0 is included). The natural thing to do would've been to divide it into 8 levels of 32, so who knows why they broke it up this way.
@Bluelink13
@Bluelink13 Жыл бұрын
Hell you don't even need to use the full range, if you wanted you could have said "If sheen is over 100 the pokemon is full" and be done with it
@algotkristoffersson15
@algotkristoffersson15 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluelink13it really should not even be called sheen in the first place
@Yuzuki1337
@Yuzuki1337 11 ай бұрын
​@Bluelink13 I wouldn't be surprised if Gamefreak was still holding on to thinking about the optimization needed for older games and systems. If you're already reserving a full 8-bit integer you may as well make use of it's entire range.
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 3 ай бұрын
​@@Yuzuki1337 which makes it kind of sad to see how poorly optimised future games would become (XY, ORAS, and (U)S(U)M make a little sense given that they probably had more issues with hardware optimisation than software optimisation, but the switch titles... I think I've made more optimised projects in Godot for playing around to learn the features of the system)
@sme23
@sme23 Жыл бұрын
I recall x&y having an in-depth crop crossbreeding system for berries that's never explained ingame and expected that at the end, but pokemon-amie is probably the more direct pokeblock equivalent of those games
@DynamoTwentyTwo
@DynamoTwentyTwo Жыл бұрын
I literally just discovered that a couple weeks ago and I can't remember the last time my mind was so blown by something I stumbled into in a Pokemon game.
@quinnfarris
@quinnfarris Жыл бұрын
I remember having a little journal I used to track berry crossbreedin like I was Gregor Mendel
@crowqueenamps
@crowqueenamps 11 ай бұрын
There's crop crossbreeding?! I've played through X&Y at least 5 times and never realized that.
@yoshi6421
@yoshi6421 9 ай бұрын
​@@quinnfarris That's awesome.
@anzaia2164
@anzaia2164 7 ай бұрын
It is explained insofar that the games tell you it can happen, it just doesn't tell you what combinations create which berries.
@JacksonJinn
@JacksonJinn Жыл бұрын
The youtube comments, enthralled, spoke nearly as one; "Poffins pls" And the Pokeblock man said; "Alriiiiight fine"
@zekenelsons2069
@zekenelsons2069 Жыл бұрын
For the Poffin Case- I agree it was supposed to be a cheeky callback, but I don't think it's to the Bike Voucher! I actually think it's a callback to how you have to go find the Coin Case in Celadon by talking to some old man before you can actually play the games in the Game Corner!
@thetrophygamer3606
@thetrophygamer3606 3 ай бұрын
Considering you get the bike voucher in the next town you go to and have to backtrack to the town with the bike to progress I’m not sure why he said it was a few towns over
@hippothehippo
@hippothehippo Жыл бұрын
I simply cannot believe someone wrote out these stats, formulated this system, had it approved, and then proceeded to have it effect only one of the smallest, and most innocuous aspects of the game that MOST players genuinely just completely skip.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
The funny part being that if this kind of stuff was in the first two generations, it would have been full of bugs because the devteam most likely did not understand how the code translated to reality either.
@cipocreep1050
@cipocreep1050 Жыл бұрын
I was actually surprised to hear that there's still some undocumented stuff about the way bdsp works, as the game had a burst of interest around its release relating to the various ways the game could be broken, so I assumed the ins and outs would be pretty much figured out by now. But I guess speedrunners wouldn't really have a reason to dig into the mechanics surrounding poffins.
@misirtere9836
@misirtere9836 Жыл бұрын
they're too busy eating their ham sandwiches
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. As far as I can tell, Poffins and other niche data-things are the literal one thing people are not interessted in with BDSP. Unused stuff, glitches, enemy trainer changes? Yep, everything accounted for.
@Robbie_Haruna
@Robbie_Haruna Жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 I remember reading about people who datamined the Battle Tower trainer EVs and shit like week 1 lmao
@shinyrayquaza9
@shinyrayquaza9 Жыл бұрын
to be fair, 90% of the code was copy pasted, hell mods for dp worked when just ported in with no work
@TownDarling
@TownDarling Жыл бұрын
@@shinyrayquaza9”ported in” and “no work” are not compatible terms lmao there still needed to be work done
@isaacthered
@isaacthered Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I understand why they thought the sidequest to catch the most powerful Pokémon in the entire series who was only accessible to people who bought tickets to a movie/physically went to a Toys R Us in a 1-week window needed to be simplified more than the inner workings of a side mode with nothing important locked behind it.
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya Жыл бұрын
I mean, now that you put it like that, I am glad they went this route because the opposite basically punishes people for being born far away from either a Toys-R-Us or a participating cinema.
@AtomicVegetable
@AtomicVegetable Жыл бұрын
Yea, hospitals tend not to be next to toys-R-us
@oui7171
@oui7171 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing, you can play contest and make poffins and be good enough to clear, you don't need to understand the inner workings of the system else we could also just comply about the battle system with the exact way damage is calculated, but we don't the azure flute excuse is stupid but this isn't exactly a good counter argument per se
@anzaia2164
@anzaia2164 7 ай бұрын
​​@@toumabyakuya Not like that bothered them before, or since tbh
@dragon_nammi
@dragon_nammi 6 ай бұрын
The thing with the Amity square poffin smoothness being whack was hilarious I'm sorry I'm just imaging Linneus doing a "LET ME IN INN" impression to a game that's handing out nonsensical results. Like that 6 points thing just left me dead fr 💀
@henryc3167
@henryc3167 Жыл бұрын
29:19 Linneus bakes worst poffin ever, asked to leave Amity Square
@marcgomez8391
@marcgomez8391 Жыл бұрын
This guy out there on a quest to explain how every single molecule of Pokémon food works on a DNA level and I'm all in for the ride.
@anjoliebarrios8906
@anjoliebarrios8906 2 ай бұрын
Pokeblocks and poffins are special foods, but I'm sure there is regular pokemon food. for sustenance.
@Diwasho
@Diwasho Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was weird how in the minigame the end result is a flat and round pancake but in every other depiction the poffin is a puffy lemon shaped bun.
@santiagoacosta3372
@santiagoacosta3372 Жыл бұрын
I like how all of your torterras have sun glasses for no reason They're just cool like that 😭
@sadisticmystic
@sadisticmystic Жыл бұрын
HGSS have a couple mechanics that would have been worth noting here: the the haircut brothers in the Goldenrod underground, and Daisy in Pallet Town, can give your Pokemon a treatment that's equivalent to various levels of Dry Poffin (and, true to the feeding formula, if your Pokemon is already maxed out, these will have no effect). This mainly exists so that HGSS players can evolve their own Feebas without trading, but because the single-player poffins you can make with the one-berry limit you get in DP are so terrible (which forced them to add the buyables in Platinum and putting in multiple berries yourself in BDSP so that players looking for contest stats wouldn't have quite as miserable a time), these haircuts and massages are more efficient against the feed limit than any of these one-berry Poffins.
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they had to make you get two Beldum to get Metang, then two Metang to get Metagross.
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool, Same with Diglett and Magneton
@Diwasho
@Diwasho Жыл бұрын
Capture 108 spirits to get Spiritomb
@thefinalskarm1754
@thefinalskarm1754 Жыл бұрын
it'd be impossible in rs without trading. or even then impossible with trading and 8 playthroughs of the game until frlg with ditto.
@Wertercat
@Wertercat Жыл бұрын
@@Diwasho That's already a thing in PLA.
@annceres1204
@annceres1204 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Beldum have the catch rate of a legendary? That would make it even harder to evolve this way. It would still be a cool way tho
@WolfWalrus
@WolfWalrus Жыл бұрын
You know you're now contractually obliged to make a video about Aprijuice (and maybe the Pokéthlon in general) Love how in-depth your videos are, they're incredibly interesting and thorough
@malachiatkinson7245
@malachiatkinson7245 17 күн бұрын
Hey so I've got excellent news
@athenaraines
@athenaraines Жыл бұрын
31:00 Ok. I have a theory. It’s obviously not linear so I think there are 2 things which influence your bonus. Your party’s total happiness is used to generate a value from 1-6. Then a bonus is applied based on how many members of your party have max friendship. 2 max friendship = 1 point. This explains you getting 7 points from 1275 friendship. The number gave you 5, then you got a bonus for 5 Pokémon at max which was 2, so 7. That also explains you getting 6 from the 253/254 Vaporeons. Your happiness was in the 6 range (as expected for it being so high) but you got no bonuses because none of your Pokémon were maxed.
@celarts5752
@celarts5752 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Poffins are actually just muffins, or rather muffin tops! Also, BDSP is just DP but translated into Unity code-wise, explaining the Amity Square limitation.
@hansmoleman2666
@hansmoleman2666 Жыл бұрын
That really doesn’t explain anything at all, because they could have still made quality of life changes, which they did in some small areas. The real reason would be - if what I’ve heard is true, that GAMEFREAK told the DP remake devs to make a 1:1 remake when the devs presented GAMEFREAK with plans for a more current gen visual take on the games, and it’s assumed that is because it would have blown Legends Asseus out of the water.
@celarts5752
@celarts5752 Жыл бұрын
@@hansmoleman2666 It's more that they likely didn't have the time or resources to work on a full-blown remake, plus this was ILCA's first time doing more than just a mobile game.
@LudonarrativeConsonance
@LudonarrativeConsonance Жыл бұрын
@@celarts5752 My sibling under the heaven, TPC doesn't get the excuse of "resources". They're the most valuable entertainment IP in the world
@CallMeFreakFujiko
@CallMeFreakFujiko Жыл бұрын
@@hansmoleman2666"They didn't want BDSP to be better than Game Freak's Arceus." LOL. What bullshit cope. ILCA didn't know what they were doing and you know it. Nobody wanted to work on the remake so The Pokemon Company got the people who can barely make mobile apps to do it for them. All ILCA did was copy 95% of the original game and they could barely do that right.
@chainswordcs
@chainswordcs 10 ай бұрын
it wouldn't have been that much work. the bulk of the work is literally already done; any pokemon can follow you in the overworld. them deciding to keep the limitation is pointless and unnecessary. i promise rewriting the code for the underground stuff took 100x as many man hours as this change would have taken :P
@username5155
@username5155 Жыл бұрын
10/10 video can’t wait for Linn to release part 3 and then for GameFreak to add another Pokéblock varient to the next generation
@sadisticmystic
@sadisticmystic Жыл бұрын
Part 3, in which you actually get to kill an old man. No, really, wait for it.
@JovFlores
@JovFlores Жыл бұрын
@@sadisticmystictoo many pokéblock adjacents
@supermaster2012
@supermaster2012 Жыл бұрын
That would require GameFreak to put effort and we know that ain't happening anymore
@username5155
@username5155 Жыл бұрын
@@supermaster2012 nah, reusing mechanics is what they do best
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Жыл бұрын
After the Pokepuff Episode, we need to cover Poke Beans. And then we might as well dive into Curry and Sandwich mechanics
@sassafrassanid5718
@sassafrassanid5718 Жыл бұрын
Man, this stuff makes even the Azure Flute look simple!
@dogf421
@dogf421 Жыл бұрын
its a testiment to how little interest bdsp generated in me that as a based sylveon enjoyer i didnt even realize sylveon wasnt in the game
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Жыл бұрын
Virgin BDSP not adding Pokemon past original DPP Beyond based ORAS having literally everything available up until that point, including new megas and infinite availability for Deoxys and Regigigas
@YukiKoyuki
@YukiKoyuki Жыл бұрын
made a poffin today.............. effervescent
@Blastosie_Offical
@Blastosie_Offical Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that you can easily raise beauty by grooming your Pokémon from either the haircut brothers or Blue's sister in HG/SS
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live Ай бұрын
Is it only beauty?
@Joh447
@Joh447 Жыл бұрын
0:33 castle bravo scientists when their five megaton warhead turns into a 15 megaton explosion
@clownball3457
@clownball3457 Жыл бұрын
🗣I LOVE VIDEO ESSAYS ABOUT NEEDLESSLY COMPLEX POKEMON MECHANICS‼️‼️
@MrAlquimista666
@MrAlquimista666 Жыл бұрын
I love me some deep dives into obscure and forgotten Pokémon berry mechanics. Thanks Pokeblock man
@thatguysagittar
@thatguysagittar Жыл бұрын
Pokepuffs need their own video!? Now this was an unexpected twist!
@TheErector
@TheErector Жыл бұрын
I love how there's a solid content market in making comprehensive videos on mechanics in Pokémon games that most people either don't care too much for, or just never realizsd existed (especially in how complex they are).
@petrie911
@petrie911 Жыл бұрын
FYI, powder yields grow quadratically with the number of players, not exponentially.
@superparadox
@superparadox Жыл бұрын
a little poffin video, as a treat
@EnergyBurst2
@EnergyBurst2 Жыл бұрын
On the point brought up at the end, I will always be thankful to the Dream World for allowing me to obtain an Arceus for pretty much no effort, truly a product of the time.
@bunnykisses
@bunnykisses Жыл бұрын
I will have to rewatch this video not at midnight because it’s literally keeping me up at night with concern once you got to Amity square and 6 torterra
@kerbonaut2059
@kerbonaut2059 Жыл бұрын
Huge shoutout to SadisticMystic, he's really damn good at breaking down the game. Glad he's still around. He's also written one of my favorite Nuzlockes of all time, his only one.
@TheHackysack
@TheHackysack Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure whether it was your lovely voice or the absurdness of the Pokéblock's implementation that captured my full attention and subsequent subscription on the first video, but I'm sure I'll have no better luck figuring it out this video either.
@ferociousfeind8538
@ferociousfeind8538 Жыл бұрын
27:35 I would suggest grabbing a pokemon with 1 extra friendship point, just in case there's some weird off-by-one rounding error and you need to be strictly above the friendship total to get the bonus. That could be why you can only get 9 points, not 10, but also if the limit was 153 instead of 170, you should be getting the first point with your 170-friendship torterra, so... I guess I should just watch on
@ferociousfeind8538
@ferociousfeind8538 Жыл бұрын
28:13 yeah! like that! okay maybe I should just shut up and watch!
@CirnouliK
@CirnouliK Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't go into depth about Pokéathalon stats (even if they don't involve berries, though maybe they do, I forget), or PokéStar Studios, since those are contest-adjacent.
@scrunkore
@scrunkore Жыл бұрын
there aren't really any deeper mechanics to pokestar studios (or musicals) but the pokeathlon and its apricorn juice could be explored
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby Жыл бұрын
Man, I can't believe people are rising Dream World out of its slumber and I can't wait to use it for the first time.
@DeucesWild2006
@DeucesWild2006 4 ай бұрын
Now I'm imagining your videos as though in the pokemon universe it's like a cooking show where you explain the complexities of different pokefoods and I'm having the best time
@WaluTime
@WaluTime Жыл бұрын
I'd say the Poffin Case is more like the Game Corner Coin Case, which was also a few buildings down/away from the game corner
@twilitblade
@twilitblade Жыл бұрын
I have that squirtle pez dispenser in a box... but it has SONIC BRANDING. It's hanging on my wall lol
@1800mexicano
@1800mexicano Жыл бұрын
"every Pokemon has animations and 3D models" is very generous to say about Game freak these days
@scrunkore
@scrunkore Жыл бұрын
the 3d models are better than ever now tbf
@thepicausno5561
@thepicausno5561 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing Research streams? I think it would be really entertaining watching you try to understand how all this stuff fits together, watching the BDSP experiments, ect.
@quinnfarris
@quinnfarris Жыл бұрын
it would also allow for collaboration! viewers might think of something new to try
@Pikayune5
@Pikayune5 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for going the extra mile to research these topics, even going so far as to perform your own experiments. While not as complicated as Pokélocks or Poffins, I hope you eventually cover the Juice Shoppe in XY, perhaps as part of an exploration of the depth of growing berries in XY.
@Acorn_Anomaly
@Acorn_Anomaly Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the sheen division levels was just a mistake in... well... division. You've got levels 3, 6, and 9 have 22 numbers, but also zero. They were going for 12 total sheen levels, and knew they wanted to split them roughly evenly. They probably also knew how many needed to have 22 levels to add up properly in the end, like you did(three). So, since they knew they wanted the breaks every three levels, they probably used a common mathematical function in programming for easily dividing something and using the remainder - modulo. (As stated, taking the modulus of a number and a divisor returns the _remainder_ of a division calculation, rather than the quotient. It's an easy way to group things up into a previously known set of groups. For example, take any number by modulo 4, and you'll get values 0, 1, 2, or 3. (Zero means no remainder, as in the number is evenly divisible by the divisor. 10 mod 4 is 2, since 4 goes into 10 two times(8) with a remainder of 2. 12 mod 4 is zero, since 4 goes into 12 exactly 3 times.) This means that whatever your input, you can split it up into four groups.) So, they did exactly that. For each sheen level, if it was divisible by three(mod 3 = 0), then they made it have 22 values instead of 21. Problem is, zero modulo any number is also zero. So you take the full set of levels, run them against mod 3, and you get 0, 3, 6, 9, and 12, but by then, you've already used all the levels. They probably intended to just have 3, 6, and 9, but the 0 slipped in there because of how modulo works.
@vexka1066
@vexka1066 Жыл бұрын
I can’t express how much I enjoy this style of content, AND the way you make it so entertaining. Can’t wait for more!
@TheDarkPixie99
@TheDarkPixie99 Жыл бұрын
Minigame affects Poffin level and stat boost if you include the rarest berries.
@brianli6562
@brianli6562 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the friendship and poffins, I think I have a working theory from the numbers you pulled off. So you can get a max reduction of 9 smoothness with 6 max friendship pokemons. You would assume that it is 1.5 per mon, however, the 5 torterra gave you 7 which should have been 8 alright. What I think is how it works, is that every pokemon, when their friend ship reaches a certain threshhold, it reduces smoothness by 1. AND if you have max friendship with 2 pokemons, you get a reduction of smoothness by 1 again. So having 5 max friendship torterras will give you 7 reduction when using this criteria while having 6 vaporeons with a little under max friendship gives only 6 reduction. So the max happiness overall isn't the key but rather whether the friendship is above a certain number and whether the friendship is maxed per 2 mons. This would make sense.
@FranXiT
@FranXiT Жыл бұрын
Man that Vaporeon must be scarred by the number 34 by now 💀
@psychoDon525
@psychoDon525 Жыл бұрын
Okay but why is nobody talking about the hilarious text on the end screen?
@YeNguyen
@YeNguyen Жыл бұрын
Man, I love seeing small channels dive into just the right thing and gain the bigger following they've earned! The work you're putting into these videos is wonderful.
@pabloblo2306
@pabloblo2306 Жыл бұрын
and yet the azure flute was too complicated
@RagingRobin219
@RagingRobin219 Жыл бұрын
6:25 love me some 'Enzo and Drive'
@FluxLuin
@FluxLuin Жыл бұрын
I'll be happy to add this to the list of videos that help me understand old Pokemon mechanics
@monopolyrubix1875
@monopolyrubix1875 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! I cannot for the life of me make poffins in BDSP. They want you to spin that stick way, way too fast.
@JoeHakai
@JoeHakai Жыл бұрын
my own assumption on the friendship too reduce smoothness i believe might be based of how many stages of teamwork(the in battle stuff) effects you have access too i do know you used an 254 friendship pokemon that should have worked too reduce the smoothness by 1 but my theory is that the ranges for the table is kind of weird like if i went in with an team full of friendship 200 meaning i have and total friendship of 1200 it should still only result in 3 smoothness reduction it would also make a bit sense why the vaporeons at 254 friendship only gave 6 smoothness reduction since they only have 2 stages of friendship benefit for a total of 12 compared too the 5 255 torterras with an total of 15
@wildstarfish3786
@wildstarfish3786 Жыл бұрын
where are you getting the values of 2 and 3 from? /gen
@JoeHakai
@JoeHakai Жыл бұрын
@@wildstarfish3786 i just googled brilliant diamond friendship mechanic and looked at the serebii link for that i did however look up bulbapedias page for that too and the values needed there are different stage 1 is 180-219 compared too serebiis 200-229 stage 2 is 220-254 and 230-254 respectively and stage 3 is just max the stages are just based on what friendship lvls can trigger increasingly amount of effects like living on 1 hp and so on
@Laura-eq6uv
@Laura-eq6uv 9 ай бұрын
My thoughts too! To clearly state the hypothesis: - each Pokemon at max friendship = -1.5 smoothness - each Pokemon at high friendship (???, includes 253 and 254) = -1 smoothness - each Pokemon at lower friendship (???) = -0.5 smoothness Sum it up and round down: - 5 x Torterra at 255 = 5 * -1.5 = -7.5, so -7 smoothness - 6 x Vaporeon at 253 = 6 * -1 = -6 smoothness - 5 x Vaporeon at 253 & 1 at 255 = 5 * -1 + -1.5 = -6.5, so -6 smoothness still - 4 x Vaporeon at 253 & 2 at 255 = 4 * -1 + 2 * -1.5 = -7 smoothness
@Someguy12121
@Someguy12121 9 ай бұрын
In Japan they actually made PokéBlock candy and dispensers that looked just like ingame.
@rouxls_288
@rouxls_288 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the use of Enzo and Drive for the bg music! Also I looooooved this mechanic growing up and just throwing random pet food at my Pokémon. Was a fun time. I miss my Staraptor that carried me through all the master rank cups tho :(
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 Жыл бұрын
Just finished watching this video and the Pokeblock one, and all the complex math suddenly manifested an Azure Flute in my copy of Crystal.
@BritOfADrag
@BritOfADrag Жыл бұрын
This man's reluctant to talk about Vaporeon whilst being called Sexica and having Pokémon named Lustula
@LudonarrativeConsonance
@LudonarrativeConsonance Жыл бұрын
The youtube comments, enthralled, spoke nearly as one; "musicals pls" And the Pokeblock man said; "Alriiiiight fine"
@linguaFrances
@linguaFrances 7 ай бұрын
I have a hunch, for the friendship score, that it's derived from basically taking each friendship value, dividing it by 170, and rounding down. Between what you've shown and some preliminary testing, that seems to hold up.
@fntthesmth423
@fntthesmth423 5 ай бұрын
This really puts the "science" in "computer science"
@mossinvasion
@mossinvasion Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so detailed, can't imagine what work goes into them!
@buckleupteddy
@buckleupteddy Жыл бұрын
These hour long super obscure pokemon videos keep me sane at night
@a.v.y8331
@a.v.y8331 Жыл бұрын
I don't have BDSP so I can't really try it out but, couple of possible tests: 1. 6x 0 friendship pokemon to test for how the number of pokemon affect the reduction 2: Repeating similar tests the moment you gain access to Amity square vs a 100% save file to see if there are other variables that might affect the reduction
@cooldog1994
@cooldog1994 8 ай бұрын
people not knowing what pokeblocks were supposed to me is interesting bc I always assumed they were like starburst candies
@donnovanash2334
@donnovanash2334 9 ай бұрын
2:50 lol, it went from the, “oops I made a mistake, gonna leave that in” that we expected to a “lmao i had a stroke”
@RM-um9xx
@RM-um9xx Жыл бұрын
Me as a kid thinking Rich Poffins were a GOOD thing
@alviabtahi5440
@alviabtahi5440 Жыл бұрын
I'm not the only one who thought Poffins looked delicious right? Gen 4 in general just has a certain type of aesthetic where everything looks modern but comfy and Poffins kinda embody that to me
@lancelot1685
@lancelot1685 Жыл бұрын
I love the pokeblock video, can't wait for this one
@OceanBagel
@OceanBagel Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the Lilycove Lottery which got me thinking about all the vague and unexplained mechanics behind the various gambling events throughout the series... It would be interesting to see a video about that at some point.
@Maurricent
@Maurricent Жыл бұрын
I felt chills hearing Contact ost in this lol, so much nostalgia for that game
@Mr.Galleom
@Mr.Galleom 11 ай бұрын
Woah, Contact music. Wasn't expecting that. Props for using that song.
@meredithsutton1485
@meredithsutton1485 Жыл бұрын
What about apricorn juice in HGSS? Also, great video! Thanks for doing the nitty gritty and trying to figure out these game mechanics. It's fascinating stuff!
@plushdragonteddy
@plushdragonteddy Жыл бұрын
i am,, SO excited for the next video. despite having watched the anime and many of the movies, i never knew pokemon was a game growing up, so i started in high school with gen 6. i feel like nobody ever talks about kalos, and i'm STOKED to discover there's so much i didn't know about pokepuffs that it exceeded the scope of this video. i am very much looking forward to another one of these deep dives, i've loved every one so far :)
@ahcangela8549
@ahcangela8549 2 ай бұрын
idk if anyone else has said this, or if there's an obvious hole in my logic, but I think I have a very strong theory for how the amity poffin bonus works. It seems to account for ALMOST every irregularity in the video. I'll include an explanation and a brief breakdown for each of the trials below. Here is my theory, hear me out: The game has three "friendship ranks" that correspond to happiness, and each Pokemon spectating gives a bonus according to the rank its happiness places it into. We'll call the lowest rank "unfriendly". I believe that this is the rank for any Pokemon below a certain happiness (difficult to say how much, it could be any arbitrary number like 200, but it must be higher than 173). Pokemon at this rank provide a bonus of 0, big fat goose egg. The middle rank we'll call "friendly", and is for any Pokemon with happiness between the cutoff for "unfriendly" and 254. This awards one point bonus against smoothness. The final rank we'll call "bonded", for a maxed 255 happiness. For this rank, a spectating Pokemon gives a 1.5 bonus against smoothness. With a full team of 255 happiness Pokemon, this would net you (1.5 * 6) 9 points off. In the event that the value ends in a half point, it is rounded down. This would explain why the maximum bonus was changed from 10 to 9, as 9 is the highest possible total. OK! So using these rules, I'm going to try to explain all the results in the video. 27:09 1st trial with 1 Vaporeon at 0 happiness, 0 bonus as expected. It would certainly be "unfriendly" 27:16 2nd trial with 1 Torterra at 170 happiness, 0 bonus. I believe the threshold to reach "friendly" is above 170 (which is why I ventured 200 as a guess for the rank requirements) so it receives a 0 bonus for "unfriendly" 27:31 3rd trial with 1 Torterra at 255 happiness, 1 bonus. This tracks because at the highest friendship rank it is providing 1.5 bonus, rounded down to 1. 27:46 4th trial with 5 Torterra at 255 happiness each, 7 bonus. This tracks if they each contributed 1.5 bonus for a total of 7.5 rounded down to 7. 27:59 5th trial with 6 Torterra at 255 happiness each, 9 bonus. This tracks if each contributed 1.5 bonus for the maximum 9. 28:18 6th trial with 1 Torterra at 171 happiness, 0 bonus. As with the 2nd trial, I believe this Torterra is still not at a high enough happiness to qualify as "friendly", and thus still gets 0. 28:43 7th trial with 6 Torterra, 5 at 255 happiness and one at 172 happiness, 7 bonus. This tracks if the 5 full happiness Torterra are each contributing 1.5 and the 172 "unfriendly" Torterra provides 0. It is again a 7.5 bonus rounded down to 7. 29:04 8th trial with 1 Vaporeon at 254 happiness, 0 bonus. THIS ONE is the one that doesn't seem to add up. Following the rules I set up, this should be providing a bonus of 1, because at 254 happiness it would certainly fall into the "friendly" rank. Could this really be explained by the fact that the poffin was made sloppily? Maybe that's what "teamwork score" refers to? 29:58 9th trial with 6 Vaporeons at 253 happiness each, 6 bonus. Here all the Vaporeons are just shy of the max friendship rank, so they are each only providing 1 bonus point for a total of 6. 30:38 10th trial with 6 Vaporeons, 5 at 253/254 and one at 255, 6 bonus. This would track if that max happiness Vaporeon brought the total up to 6.5 only for it to be rounded back down to 6. 31:02 11th trial with 6 Vaporeons, 4 at 253 happiness, 2 at 255 happiness, 7 bonus. The 2 max happiness Vaporeons each provide 1.5 with the other 4 each still only provide 1, brining it up to 7. And that's all of them! I think? Anyway I know this was a lot, but I hope it made sense because I'm watching this video high. I hope I don't come back later to find out that it's complete nonsense lol.
@GavinAstraWolf
@GavinAstraWolf Жыл бұрын
You are out right INSANE once again for this shit. I love seeing you go so in-depth over these stupid mechanics, it goes so hard! I learned a lot from watching this too.
@Jayjaytube518
@Jayjaytube518 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel, and as someone who enjoys videos like this while I veg out, I have to say I am a huge fan of how you deliver your content!
@hamburgerbroz6439
@hamburgerbroz6439 Жыл бұрын
i am loving your pokemon's names :D they remind me of my own and i am thrilled
@Sasa-tu1fl
@Sasa-tu1fl Жыл бұрын
*steve harvey voice* YEEEES... POFFINS [Ding ding ding]
@jovanniharmon7724
@jovanniharmon7724 3 ай бұрын
New gen 10 evolution idea! Place your eevee inside a coffin shake it violently throw your console into a graveyard then dig it up and use spirit shackle 20 times in one battle without fainting any Pokémon besides your eevee now you have skelleon a ghost poison type
@Max-mx5yc
@Max-mx5yc 9 ай бұрын
13:45 The upper bounds for the ranges are actually exactly given by floor((stars+1)*255 / 12) with an extra special case for 12 stars. However, the game obviously converts gleen to stars, and that formula would be exactly floor(4 * gleen / 85), no special cases required.
@atlas7309
@atlas7309 Жыл бұрын
I never played Pokémon because it’s really not for me but it’s really funny to know how obscure and unnecessarily complex these mechanics are
@gungle2595
@gungle2595 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm hyped up on coffee or something but you are now my favourite youtuber holy crap, this video series has been perhaps one of my favourite ever
@joedlvr
@joedlvr 9 ай бұрын
i saw kirby star allies good to know not only do u be spreading knowledge on pokemon in surprisingly digestible videos but you also have amazing taste
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
BDSP is so broken that one guy showed how the calculator is broken in other languages I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't properly codded puffins
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
With regard to pressing-power in Berry Crush: I think it makes sense that pressing power is determined by how much of the time you had the A button pressed. If you press a button harder, the difference that the system notices is that the signal from that button lasted longer. (This is used in some platformers as a way the player can control jump height; press the button harder, you keep going up for longer.) If you're pushing the buttons harder, their signals will be active for longer. Pressing power is a silly thing to measure, but they chose a good way to estimate it.
@KingTaltia
@KingTaltia Жыл бұрын
Watched the first video on this, was curious if I wanted to stick around... I subbed after "So let's talk first talk about the how Catch and Escape Factors" I can't breathe from laughing. Good humor, and complicated topics. I think I'm in good company.
@AttacMage
@AttacMage Жыл бұрын
My honest guess for the smoothness cooking bonus in Amity Square is that there's a flat bonus for having a certain total of friendship, and then each Pokémon with max friend ship adds like 8/6 or whatever of a point.
@pikacrafter2903
@pikacrafter2903 Жыл бұрын
This video was really cool! Even if you didnt come to a solid conclusion, your attempts at BDSP research are admirable.
@thisisasupersayin376
@thisisasupersayin376 Жыл бұрын
6:40 The yellow button on the left looks like it says"SOUP." and I think that's quite underrated
@ThatLuckyBear
@ThatLuckyBear 4 ай бұрын
The screaming pokemon at the beginning fading out made me laugh so hard.
@Volti666
@Volti666 2 ай бұрын
I just stumbled onto this whole rabbit hole of complicated mechanics and series of yours. And yes I've seen the more recent ones as well but watched them out of order. Wanted to compliment your work and effort. This is incredible and hard work. Especially since you have to be very careful and correct on the numbers. But mistakes can happen. Then again it doesn't take away the main point of being too complicated and the azure flute. Wonder if curry will come up at a point. Would be happy to see it. Have a good one!
@Shadownnico
@Shadownnico Жыл бұрын
you forgot the pokeblock adjacent thing I've sunk the most time into, the apricorn juice from HGSS!! how does that work!!
@CGFillertext
@CGFillertext Жыл бұрын
I’d also like to know tbh because I was always super interested in the pokeathlon
@BluePhoenix_
@BluePhoenix_ 7 ай бұрын
Poffins killed my touchscreen and i WILL have revenge.
@opalpersonal
@opalpersonal Жыл бұрын
you've got me hooked. i NEED to hear more arbitrary stat numbers for decade old games on obsolete consoles. (genuine)
@petercarioscia9189
@petercarioscia9189 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, the mechanics of the poke blocks and poffins is so complicated I'm not even paying attention. I'm just here for your voice, cadence and dry ass humor. I'd listen to you reciting 2008 federal tax code (which is probably less convoluted than pokeblock/poffins mechanics)
@MANJYOMETHUNDER111
@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 Жыл бұрын
You turned into the Pokemon version of that spongebob conspiracy youtube channel so gradually I barely even noticed
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