The Work Begins - Operation Cheap Jeep

[@Dino30ish]

I love the fact that you are stepping outside of your normal XJ comfort zone and building a ZJ ... I know you are not to fond of this platform , but maybe you will be a convert after this build .... Good Job Matt , cant wait to see more of this build ........

[@bleepinjeep]

thanks Norm!!

[@cbigg81]

BleepinJeep Don't go to the dark side! (says the guy that just sold my XJ and has driven a JKU for 6 years, lol)

[@BlabberingBrie]

I just recently put a three inch lift on my TJ and was pretty much alone in the endeavor with absolutely no experience. So watching you with those springs made me laugh so hard. Can relate. But I was definitely cringing the whole time hoping those springs wouldn't pop loose!!

[@tomd1939]

lol, the entire time of 18:00-19:00 I was squinting at the screen thinking you were going to loose a finger.

[@andre505abq]

Ronnie Fixer hell I flinched then the squeaking started hahahaha

[@tomd1939]

Andres Pintor. haha, at one point I was thinking I hope hospital bills aren't factored into the budget

[@CLGravy]

Literally held my breath when you tried the ratchet straps on the spring. I had a close call with some coil spring compressors a couple years ago.

[@kellyokamoto1604]

Watching this series has done a coupla things for me. Brought back those headaches of dealing with the exact "challenges" you're encountering that caused me to STOP working on my '93 ZJ outta frustration, and NOW I'm excited all over again to finish my lift!!! Poor ZJ, waiting all those years for me to get 'er dun!!! I was gonna go your exact route-the front spring swap to the rear and the Rough Country 4" front springs and other bits. I even bought and installed adjustable control arms AND track bars. Now I'm thinkin' (a very dangerous problem!) of long arms!! Thanks for reinvigorating me!!!

[@MacSilvey]

I'm freaking out just watching that. I've had a few springs blow up on me.... Spring compressors are a heck of a lot cheaper than getting your fingers put back on :o

[@GlycerinZ]

What happened when they blew on you? Was it freaky? I was wondering how safe those straps he had were gonna be..

[@kevslogan]

It was like watching a video of someone defusing a bomb.

[@MrDGenocide]

I have the same ZJ so im happy to see this series!

[@Danny-BamBam-Cason]

Lol love this zj video I've been researching lifting my 98 zj I wanna do it right but there are so many factors involved to think about such as dropping the transfer case if you go over two inches I think.. I wonder if Dodge ram 1500 shocks would be compatible with the zj

[@paulwuzhere]

This is already my favorite build yet. Thanks!

[@Attackmac911]

Ah! I remember old Matt, a funny dude working on old Jeeps, thx God he's back in my life again ;P

[@MrMrsregor]

the price on amazon changes because when you add a good deal to your cart, the seller that had the good deal sold out and amazon automatically changes your shopping cart to the next seller. but sometimes if you wait a few days the price goes back to what it was when the seller (with a good deal) gets them back in stock

[@truthmakeqq8307]

Don't fear the ratchet strap technique, just don't do it like Matt did! =D When I installed 2.25'' coil spring spacers on my 98 ZJ, I used two ratchet straps in tandem in an opposed fashion. The straps stayed on their respective side and did not cross (horizontally) from one side to the other. I did a single wrap around the bar of the coil itself at both ends of the strap before placing the hooks at opposite ends(lengthwise) of the spring, leaving the ratchets at about midway. The straps would not move at all under load, the wrap would simply tighten around the bar at either end. This was a solid technique as the stored energy could not be released by the spring as the two strap system was redundant and nearly immovable on the coil itself. I look forward to more of these videos, as I have a ZJ and I wont have to constantly modify some of your XJ info for my rig! =) I am a novice DIY jeep wrencher (mine only) so use my advice at your own risk. I have watched tons of BleepinJeep videos and have had great results following your crew's instructables and thank you all greatly!

[@jduncan8907]

Enjoying watching this series finally. I'm an XJ guy myself and finally just got another one back in october but this last weekend I just picked up a 95 ZJ for way cheaper than I can still believe for the condition it's in. Looking forward to building them both over a little time.

[@brianpardee1281]

cheap jeep is a good series matt love it

[@Biscuits112]

Finally a Zj can't wait to see it come together.

[@RicBaraniak]

Ahhh! I commented about strapping the spring as I was watching, and then you went at it again. I was so scared. Again, glad you weren't hurt.

[@hinterseerherold]

Wow, I just appreciate my mechanic friends and their garages more and more. 😂

[@marka.2715]

Definitely break down and buy a new track bar for the rear. That axle being off center is driving me nuts.

[@BobbyB910]

Mark A. You can measure over 3/4 of a inch on axle side and drill a hole and brace it and bam no need to spend money on a trac bar

[@rustyshack420]

with stock/clevite arm bushings, the easiest way to get front springs out is to unbolt the sway bar, unbolt the top or bottom of the shock, loosen (not necessary to remove) the axle side of the trackbar and all control arm bolts. then jack up the passenger side first and remove the driver side spring then jack up the driver side and remove the passenger side spring. the rear is the same except you jack up the driver's side first and go from there. I did this to remove 4 inch springs on my tj. you were correct in that the bushings are binding. if you have Johnny joints, duroflex, or heim joints you don't have to loosen the arm bolts. hope this helps!

[@haffner1581]

the springs in the rear fits on a volvo 240-245 in the front and it ad a 2-3 inch lift

[@Farmalleric]

Nice to see you working on a ZJ keep up the great work I learn so much from your videos

[@kelso1337]

Thats ther eason i bought a spring compressor kit, still sketchy as hell but a lot less than using a ratchet strap. Surprisingly i've used the compressor a handful of times. I like the way this jeep is starting off, nice work.

[@groov14]

Got a 97 Gran Cherokee i thought of lifting.I too am on a tight budget,this helps tremendously thanks.

[@coexcharlie]

I can't believe you don't have a spring compressor! With all the stuff you've done and tools you have no compressor. Thanks for doing a poor boy build! I see builds all the time that I dream of being able to do but finances being what they are with a family it's nice to see a budget build.

[@drubradley8821]

I am so glad that you are doing a ZJ.... Now I don't feel so alone in feeling like I want to knock some teeth out of some Jeep engineers.... I love my ZJ, but, what a pain in the butt to work on, let alone, re-engineer!!!! Nice job!!!

[@belto_80]

great Job ! thanks for the tips and tricks you gave us, I am learning alot with your videos.

[@chefdan87]

I like the dreary music for this video. Maybe it could be part of the theme for the budget build.

[@gimenofm]

I think it's fair that you charge your craiglist price for whatever you have in the garage if it is jeep parts, otherwise I suppose that you could use some pretty fancy stuff that may be around your workshop. The ratchet strap hack to remove springs is by far the scariest thing i've seen on youtube for a while! Keep up the good work dude. Regards from the UK.

[@jackmama6669]

I've used two heavy duty ratchet straps before to compress the springs, put them across from one another. Not the safest but gets the job done.

[@drubradley8821]

As per getting the taller front springs in.... loosen the pivot points at the control arms, where all the bushings are.. both sides... the chassis side, and the axle side... the axle will drop way down, and you can simply just slide the front springs on the upper mounting horns/bump/snubber mounts... You may need to go a couple extra notches higher on the jack stands, as well as the shocks being disconnected either top or bottom... worked for me, any how... Just keep an eye on the pitman arm tie-rod end/draglink end.. or just to be simple, pop it out of the pitman arm... as the limit of down travel is much more then the pivot angle that the drag link can go, like wise with the track bar, on the chassis (unified body member).. no need to remove any of the hardware of the control arms,, just loosen them a turn or two. then you only need to keep an eye on the brake lines from being over extended, or remove the calipers, and hang'em on some "S-Hook" on the access hole for the upper control arm chassis side, oval hole.... reassembly... get one shock attached at a time, then you can let the axle hang on the shocks, until you finish the rest of the re-assembly... my 2 cents

[@lelandeggleston1041]

Love the cheap Jeep series.

[@Se7enAte]

I don't know well this would work on a ZJ, but you can get basically new stock JK shocks for all 4 corners for $50 on ebay. They're good on XJs with 3-4 inches of lift. A bit stiff but I bet they'd be great on a ZJ if they're long enough

[@adammorin814]

As for the bumper we always used to just pull the fender liner out and use a Dremel and trim off some of the bumper and that would usually give you all the room you need it there. As for room needed by the door, I suppose you could take a grinder or Sawzall or what have you and start hacking into the fender and side skirt but I would try to avoid the side skirt at all costs is right underneath it is the actual body. Whatever you do just started spraying the hell out of the bottom of that thing with bed liner or underbody coating whichever 10 is cheaper cuz it's the same shit, because it sounds like you're going to be doing some serious stuff with this. And thank you so so so very much for the shock mount relocation idea! I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner! I am buying some decent Factory replacement shocks at the auto parts store online with a discount code and putting those on with the 2 inch lift that I have instead of The aftermarket shocks they sell that are worse than the factory ones! If at all possible I try to retain Factory ride quality or close to it. as for the front control arms I was thinking about possibly cutting them and Welding in some square steel to give them the correct length so the axle will be pointing the correct direction again. if you read any of these comments let me know what you think of my thesis here, thank you and keep up the good and cheap work! God bless take care and support the Second Amendment!

[@MrMattMohler]

good stuff man, I wish I had seen this video a couple months back, I've been lifting my 93 zj and I'm past this point. (GET SPRING COMPRESSORS! ) I was scared as hell when you brought that strap out.

[@kingmabb]

The troubles with the spring.... I can relate SO MUCH. If that was me though I wouldn't have the second jack and would have to run to a store for the XX time to get another part to complete the job. The problems with removal of the rear track bar also along with the head aches I get with my 98 zj inline-6. $$ -- Next, Lockers! and Pinion angles set to match the big increase in lift. Lockers because with the AWD the limited slip differentials likely not maintained well. If at the least might check the clutch pack on the limited slips diffs.

[@nathanmitton4612]

check out CBI off-road. you can get cheap Johnny joint like joints with the tube insert and the jamb nut for $40 bucks a piece. you could build custom control arms for cheap that way. I know it isn't the cheapest mod but it won't break the bank either.

[@jenb7681]

You can get a spacer above the rear diff to upper arm to center the rear axle out.

[@r0kyr0ads32]

Nice to see another project. Keep up the great work!

[@maxrogers762]

Matt, iv been watching ur channel for years and have always enjoyed ur content, so thank you for passing on the info!! ...Iv finally scored a new project, 98 ZJ, and I'm def gonna be referring back to this video for tips on saving a buck and getting it capable of some weekend wheeling! Keep rocking bro!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🤘🤘

[@bleepinjeep]

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[@maxrogers762]

@@bleepinjeep Tenfo, already did! Lol. Definitely some good stuff in that build u did competing with the Busted Knuckle crew!! This will be my first attempt at a build, so I can appreciate the experience and the time u take to explain this stuff!! Just super thankful for the content man!!

[@paulcrowder9587]

I love this series because I have the same exact zj but it's a 96 and I'm trying to build it cheap

[@NickMcd8893]

ive been running no rear sway bar on my tj for years never had a problem the only difference i had was more flex. On road handling didn't change though you'll be fine man

[@skitzogaming7671]

Giving some good ideas for my 96 zj I'll see once the build is complete I know I have some stuff I have to fix on my jeep first like seals and shit but I want to at least lift it a few inches

[@CallaFab]

Glad to see you doing a ZJ! I didn't know the rear would go up so much from the spring swap. I thought only a couple inches.

[@g-man1637]

Matt we have a junk yard here in Texas that has great stuff. Got a transfer case out of a roll-over 96' for $250. Opened it up AND The Fuker was Like New.

[@danielwoolfe1135]

I recently had to change the struts on my car. After mucking around with ratchet straps and dumb luck, then moving to spring compressors when I had to take them off again, I can say - use the spring compressors...

[@williamlindsay3831]

if you cant get that track bar bolt to budge try friggen bathing that thing in pb blast it and let it sit for a day and then try, that stuff is a miracle. also i think, Matt, you should grab some future needed parts from the junkyard so that we can see if junkyard parts are worth it

[@BobbyB910]

You can drill a new hole 3/4 of a inch on the trac bar and fix the rear and front for free

[@Dan-ir4db]

Love the videos and information you give. I have a 98 Zj and got new coil spring isolators, just wondering if you could do a video on how to replace them. thanks

[@bleepinjeep]

this vid shows everything you need to know... take the coil out, replace the isolator, replace coil.

[@Dan-ir4db]

Okay cool man thanks! I know pretty much everything when it comes to the control arms, coils etc but never seen a vid on replacing them. Yakno how jeeps work lol. Much appreciated!

[@dorsk84]

I'm worried about the rear track. I would get that fixed first. I won't matter how cheap it is, if it doesn't go strait. Also this is the cheap jeep. I think we should able to add money to a pool per-month. Some amount that people could save each month. Do a poll on your site asking how much could you actually spend, and do it each month so it's a little more realistic for how people budget for mods.

[@krusejonathan01]

My vote is for some cheap CL or eBay China mud tires. Nankangs perhaps. 31's or 33's. After that maybe some tubing to build bumpers. Possibly cheap lockers??

[@RyanWithAviators]

I've heard that on WJ's the rear sway-bar helps cut down on death wobble. I was watching a build of one and they upgraded the rear sway-bar to a thicker one and it eliminated the death wobble. Not sure what would happen if you got rid of it completely. Generally it's control arms and track bars that induce death wobble, but I don't know, that's what the people doing the build said.

[@crottycat]

Did you by chance do a before video for a "before/after performance test"?

[@zackfraser8924]

It's easier to hold the shock nut with vise grips and block it from moving while twisting the top of the shock underneath. It's better than dicking around with the master cylinder if you don't need to. Just make sure the shock cover isn't disintegrated like those rear ones.

[@g2macs]

Fascinating Fact......this vid got awarded the Guinness World record for how many times you can say 'Bumper' in one minute.

[@tristindavies2668]

For the front with the rad you could just make a little skid plate to protect it. Love the vids don't stop making them! :)

[@macsogandares8383]

for the front springs: put a block of wood under the floor jack and lift it as high as it can go, then maybe lift it more if needed with the other floor jack and more wood. then, jack stands and wood. completely drop the front axle, mount springs, and lower the car as needed. really dangerous, but it could work.

[@sdklenke]

Hey Matt, I dont know if anyone has suggested this yet, but I would definatly do a Lincoln locker in the rear.... Love the videos!

[@justinburkett2560]

Loving the new build series

[@TheDeafMechanic]

Really enjoying this ZJ build ! But please be careful. Ill admit I've done some questionable things in a pinch or because that what i had to work with. but the ratchet strap on the spring is pushing it. Ive seen them go through walls. Keep up the great content !

[@cavediverjc]

We've been using ratchet straps to secure compressed coils springs for years. (Jack up the corner and compress the spring, secure it with a couple ratchet straps, then lower the corner. Spring falls out.) Works fine if you're doing a budget boost (coil spacers) since you're putting the compressed coil back in. I wouldn't try to remove those ratchet straps from the compressed spring outside the vehicle. So for all of you guys saying how dangerous it is...just chill. If you're going to stand on your soapbox and wax rhetoric about this, can we safely assume you don't do ANYTHING AT ALL REMOTELY DANGEROUS?

[@Stahlbucks420haha]

I love it!!!! great job.. I have aZJ Zombie project going on, so this helps tremendously

[@TheBeardedJeeper]

Love watching the series. Makes me miss my zj

[@imacer1993]

4 Note Cadillac Horn (from a pre-1992 Caddy or a Buick Roadmaster) from Pick N Pull I have that on my 5.9 and its awesome

[@stacyphillips7626]

For the track bar, I have redrilled the mounting hole on the axle. Not ideal but this is a cheap Jeep. We usually drilled over 3/4 inch for a 3 inch lift. This was on the front of an xj. Also I think you don't get the same lift off the front springs if the zj is a 4.0l. Looking forward to seeing how this survives off road. These are getting cheaper than xi's here in the Northwest.

[@bleepinjeep]

ya thats what I plan on doing on the front... but can't be done on the rear axle

[@artardFTW]

I think tires should come after lift.

[@JeremyWayne0544]

OK, Its been a week. Lets get on with the next episode. Great job so far.

[@42OKing69]

The best KZbin intro ever

[@jameswmatthews]

Love the Vid Matt. Def can't wait to see more. There is a vacuum box behind that front bumper on the drivers side that will need to be moved to give more clearance. They make a stock skid plates for the radiator, transfer case, and I believe the gas tank. You might find some at the junkyard for cheap. That's cheap insurance so you don't ruin anything. The 5.2 rear seal is a shitty one. You'll need to take the stud for the starter out to get the oil pan off which can be a pain. If you need anything, just ask. Thanks!

[@bleepinjeep]

sweet, thanks bro! when it stops raining I think I'll make a trip out to pull-a-part again!

[@MrRenotstoner]

i believe the zj limiteds came with the factory gas tank skid plate, mine did. an i would do the oil pan gasket an rear main before you reinstal the front coils, this way youll have more room to work.

[@jameswmatthews]

BleepinJeep I second what James Rice said. I'd go as far as removing the whole axle with the control arms to get to it. it's not a fun oil pan, but it can be done a whole lot easier since you're already half way there.

[@jordantaylor6263]

Aside from my back pain this a good way to kick the day off

[@Saya-fs1jo]

telle about it, I've got a second collapsed disk keeping me from doing jeep parts since Xmas eve and damnit I had gotten jeep parts for Christmas!

[@jordantaylor6263]

Saya 1 damn that sucks. Hope you get to feeling better to go jeepin again

[@Saya-fs1jo]

+Jordan Taylor getting there, there's a carter BBC carb on the table freshly cleaned and I can hobble around for some light stuff but it is what it is and before too long I should be at it, not much can keep me from a jeep for all that long lol.

[@militiamike2944]

FINALLY a zj build. what year? mines a 98 4.0

[@oldreliable303]

you could make your own long arm set up. just exstind your links with square tubeing and make new mounts. just a ideal.

[@TaralgaBushAdventure]

as for what's next, any WJ owner will tell you, get some 17" rims with 75's off a standard wrangler - adds another inch of lift for the same bolt pattern. Then...make sure the steering is good :-)

[@nightmare24v65]

when is the next one to come out love the zj build I also building a zj

[@rockstarzsj]

Even the dog was scared when he was taking the loaded spring off 😂😂 does he even have a dog 🐶??

[@ericvansplinter8275]

Thanks for putting serious Matt back in the box for awhile seems like Scorpion Matt got a little intense! Early in the vid you showed an oil leak and surmised it is the RMS... If it is it may be easier to attack that with the front end dangling while waiting for springs to come in.....I once saw a video on a youtube channel, blasted jeep or blinging jeep or something like that ;-) about RMS on an XJ not sure if a V-8 is anything close...thanks for the entertaining videos

[@Joel-ew1zm]

this makes me miss driving my zj.. 1996 grand cherokee 4x4 with the 4.0.. still have it, its just not running. Just Empty Every Pocket.

[@travismiller3369]

Insane trying to remove those springs. I watched a guy lose a chunk out of his cheek when one of those snapped while I worked at M!D4S long time ago

[@TheOpenAirGarage]

I like the cheap jeep series. It is more realistic to what we are doing out here in the real world on a budget. Lol, The music sort of creeps me out.

[@kevinevenson8207]

You will bang the mount up under the radiator a little bit by removing the bumper. It's not terrible bad if your mindful

[@akafuzzy1079]

if it doesn't fit to the initial build budget save it for the next build budget. I usually have an initial budget then a yearly after that. If i get lucky and not have to go over my maintenance budget I apply any left over for upgrades or sometimes as things break I upgrade to better.

[@g-man1637]

Once you lift yo ride there are places here in Texas, like Champion Springs that are great.

[@skipperandy8081]

Hello, Love your videos as I now have two (2) Grand Cherokees, 1996 and 1993, so I really get alot out of your videos. But geez, dude, order a spring compressor from Harbor Freight, not expensive and it come in really handy. Just a small tip from one of you dedicated followers. I am considering using your bumper design for one of my Jeeps, so thank you for the great ideas and cool video on that. Take care, and keep up the great work. Andy

[@kyletice811]

lockers and tires would go a long way for the next upgrade. Lots of take off wheels/tires from newer jeeps on craigslist although the wheels are 5x5 instead of 5x4.5 like the zj a set of adapters isn't a terrible idea to get some backspacing. I routinely see JK rubicon wheels/tires set of 4 or 5 even for like $500. that's a 32" ish inch bfg km2 tire and a nice 17" aluminum wheel. Not sure what the budget looks like but a set of adapters may be $65 or so. For lockers, lunchboxes would be nice and quick at about $250 each and no cost to re-set gears, or you can lincoln/miller/harborfrieght lock them for dirt cheap. A V8 ZJ on 32ish inch tires locked front and rear will be pretty capable, weld in so 2x3" box where the rocker guards are and beat the crap out of it.

[@ebikeengineer]

I'm enjoying the video, especially how you keep in the 'whoops' moments so the rest of can learn from a mistake. If you need a spring compressor check out Advanced Auto (If they are in your area) they have a free tool loaner program (you pay a deposit for the tool and get it back when you return the tool) that should help with the budget.

[@andrewmp6]

If you take the bumper off the evap can is on the drivers side you will have to move it up.

[@andytommykeddy3224]

love the videos!

[@desbennett9839]

I just extended my front track bar in my MJ with some 1" sched40 pipe. You could maybe do something similar with that rear track bar to keep the axle centered?

[@desbennett9839]

Oh, and I just put those RE 5.5"Coils in my MJ last week, they are pretty stout, so a spring compressor is a must!

[@DaWhiteMan01]

when I did my lift I didn't need a spring compressor. I used my buddy's lift

[@billyraybullington3038]

Are you planning to do any work to the fuel system? Like drop the tank to clean it and change the sock filter? I want to cut an access panel in my 98 zj for convenience to do this without dropping the tank should the pump quit on the trail. Should be a very cheap bit of preventative maintenance.

[@ryanl7379]

Can you make sure you video/share your relocation of the rear shock?

[@dennisstraight]

I removed the rear sway bar off of my 98 ZJ 3yrs ago no adverse reaction.

[@elesjuan]

I feel your pain. I did 2.5" budget boost on my orvis with proper spring compressors and holy shit was that a huge pain in the ass!!

[@deannadowning8605]

weld the rear diff, ita a requirement on a cheap wheeler. and i think part of my budget would be going towards finding a way to extend those links, poly bushings from tmr and 2x2 1/4" wall square tubing even. no point in all that lift when it moves the tire so close to the rockers that you still cant go to a bigger tire

[@quinnbogenreif652]

i dont run a rear sway bar and it works just fine

[@dccdrk3811]

Far as I'm concerned, if the shocks were laying around the garage whether or not you're asking money on craigslist for them you should not charge those to the budget. You aren't going to charge for consumables or misc. materials used from your garage are you? Either way I like how you're keeping it honest.

[@bleepinjeep]

+DERICK CLUTE I get what you're saying but suppose I had a 14 bolt and a Dana 60 and a hemi and An atlas and some 43" stickies laying around on the floor and I install those and then told everybody you could build the same jeep for $1500.

[@faroukmaya3772]

hahaha !!!!! No it wouldn't be fare ! Everything should be counted for the built . Even the cheapest thing ..

[@mpikas]

I was going to post something similar to Derick. Shocks are significantly different then a 14bolt... I'm not really a 4x4 guy (why do I watch your channel? ;-) I would be if there was a good place to go wheeling around here anymore, what was here 10-20years ago is all gone and private now with construction/development, and I've built plenty of stuff like that... 4x4 guys tend to build more of their own stuff than "racecar" guys so I tend to watch 4x4 stuff), but even I have a stack of shocks in the corner of the garage. Even if that wasn't the case you could have moved the top bracket or extended the bottom for free (maybe some steel scrap and welding wire). You're already on a really tight budget, I didn't see the original pole but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people that voted for a $3K budget figured that it was $3K worth of mods to it, not including the jeep (I'm betting a lot of the people that wanted this already have the jeep/were given one from parents...). I really don't think that anyone will look at you funny for using a set of shocks that if you (or I) wasn't a hoarder would have been trash a while ago. The place where I would buy the argument the other way is that you and I have the ability to fabricate parts that a lot of your audience probably doesn't so we'd save money there that they couldn't.

[@mpikas]

Oh, and still not really a 4x4 guy ;-) but I do have a dana 60, a beefy trans/transfer case and no 43's but I do have some 36" Nittos in the basement... I wouldn't consider those fair game... Well maybe the nittos, I've put those on Craigs list a few times for really cheap and never got any bites at all.

[@treynathaniel4075]

It's a jeep, you know. Everything you'll want or need to get at is under,wrapped around, behind, or covered by parts you'll most likely never need to touch otherwise. Goooooooo Chrysler engineers!!!!!!!!! >.>

[@AnthonyHurtt233]

i do not have a sway bar in the rear of my zj, i have rc's sway bar disconnects in the front, i also do not have a front bumper at all with a 4in lift. i have yet to hit the radiator on anything.

[@GlycerinZ]

You should log the amount of hours you spend working on this, just to see how many total you spent on the project

[@justdoingit.43]

If you remove all your shocks and track bar and everything off of the front axle the actual will drop far enough for you to pop the spring out without a compressor

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Yeah that's a great idea selling parts that you don't want anyway to try to upgrade. Some good thoughts.

[@jfr55man]

fab a panhard rod drop bracket to re-centre that rear axle