The Work of the Warren Commission: Part 1

The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza co-presented a two-part panel discussion, "The Work of the Warren Commission, Half a Century On: Its Methods, Successes & Questions." The first panel featured several members of the Warren Commission staff to discuss their roles on the commission and how the experience affected their professional lives. Judge Burt W. Griffin, Justice Richard M. Mosk, Justice Stuart R. Pollak, Professor W. David Slawson and Howard P. Willens made remarks moderated by The Honorable Sarah R. Saldana, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Texas. The presentation took place October 11, 2013 on Southern Methodist University's Dallas campus. It was presented in partnership with the SMU Dedman School of Law and the John G. Tower Center for Political Studies. To see related films, photos, documents and oral histories from The Sixth Floor Museum's collection, visit our online collections database (emuseum.jfk.org). Or make a research appointment to explore the books, DVDs and other materials available in the Museum's Reading Room (www.jfk.org/go/reading-room).

[@samsantucci1044]

Was Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City when everyone says he was? Yes - but so was the Oswald imposter. Both of them were there on seperate missions for the agencies they were working for at the time. According to Judith Vary Baker, Oswald's girlfriend and co-worker at the Rielly Coffee Company in New Orleans, a CIA front, Oswald as a CIA operative, was sent to Mexico City to deliver a cancer inducing chemical weapon that was developed by Baker, David Ferrie and renowned Dr. Mary Sherman, at a secret CIA lab, operated by a Dr. Oshler, a well known cancer specialist at the time, who had a clinic in New Orleans as well as being a high-ranking CIA operative. The poison was supposed to be used to assassinate Fidel Castro. That is how Oswald found himself in Mexico City. Now, whether he was actually delivering the poisonous substance, is what Oswald was told, regardless, Oswald was in Mexico City. By this time, Oswald had multiple personal FBI and CIA files, including 201 files that could be made to provide any type of information that would provide any type of cover story to incriminate Oswald which CIA could make public to suit their purposes. It was the Oswald imposter who was involved in all the Cuban and Soviet embassy business, not Oswald himself. Baker's claims have never been disputed. Oswald was set up as a possible patsy in the future and CIA had the files to verify their story on Oswald. Records show that Oswald was likely working for multiple agencies including FBI, OSI & CIA. J. Edgar Hoover had known about Oswald as early as 1959 and had passed along information about Oswald to Bobby Kennedy before his brother's assassination. To believe that Oswald was some low life, lone nut assassin, who acted alone to kill the president of the USA is utterly ridiculous. The amount of evidence that disputes that conclusion is overwhelming. CASE CLOSED. Oswald did NOT shoot Kennedy that day in Dallas. There is NO doubt that Kennedy was a victim of a government conspiracy, carried out by elements of the CIA, in co-operation with many groups who wanted Kennedy dead because they felt threatened by Kennedy's intentions to implement reforms that would cost the military-industrial complex billions of dollars.

[@peterfraser9070]

You have no reason to think there was an "Oswald imposter". Give me one tiny wee little scrap of reason.

[@traceynorcross5666]

⁠@@peterfraser9070read Flight from Dallas.

[@peterfraser9070]

@@traceynorcross5666 Pure garbage like that "imposter" BS.

[@peterfraser9070]

@@traceynorcross5666 That silly "imposter"story only got started because of a mistake some people who didn't know what Oswald looked like made when they wrongly assumed that a random guy coming out of the embassy was Oswald. An imaginative CT writer took that and added some "Oswald sightings" - which were either mistakes or intentionally made up. One of them might have actually been him. No imposter, no 2 Oswalds, no 2 rifles found or 1 Mauser found, and no 2nd shooters. Sorry.

[@nomadicgringo9312]

Should be changed into " allen dulles commission "

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@nomadicgringo9312 Or, per your reasoning, the "RFK Commission," for it was the slain president's brother Bobby, who recommended Dulles for the Commission.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

I 💘 6th Floor! Um know I sound dumb but is there a website??? Please help and thank you.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Oh thanks

[@rick4electric]

The audio recordings from that day PROVE that there were AT LEAST 2 gunmen! Also, the limousine should have become a shrine. Instead, it was illegally shipped to Detroit, quickly rebuilt and sent back to Washington, D.C.! What does THAT tell you?

[@aaronz7056]

@@wallacebell4311 He presumably refers to those dictabelt recordings, the ones that were debunked decades ago.

[@TheMrSuge]

@@aaronz7056 Yes, the Dallas police officer, who's open radio mic was supposedly the one broadcasting the assassination, was adamant he was nowhere near Dealy Plaza when the recording was made. In fact, a clock chiming can be heard on the recording, and there was no such clock tower anywhere near Dealy Plaza. Just another fact that the conspiracy theorists convienently ignore

[@johncooper7663]

The limo didn't go to Detroit. It went to DC first.

[@simonjames1604]

@@TheMrSuge of course thats all nonsense. he first claimed it WAS his radio then claimed it wasnt , nobody assumed it was his so he is denying something that only he claimed in the first place. as for the clock chimes, the "source material" here is the issue . the leading acoustic experts in the states did the tests and they claim and continue to claim that they have the only true source , the actual physical dicatphone source that the HSCA got for them, the fbis got their counter recording from a porna mag source ( not kidding) and when a panel of FBI buddies at the NSA did their work they didnt have access to the orginals either. the company that DID do the work continues to claim that 1 the NSA?fbi source is a secondary recording and is flawed and is NOT the same recording and 2 these folks are not remotely qualified in the field to make the conclusions they made. and guess what? most of the scientific community goes along with the original finding and the company that the government hired? they were still using them 20 years later. so you are backing a loser here kiddo.

[@simonjames1604]

@@aaronz7056 they werent "debunked" some folks who were not acoustical experts from the NSA made that claim and were roundly shut down by the science community, they are not experts, the ones who did the test are the leading experts in this field and stand by their work

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Ok i have read 4 years on this but who is General Walker? Missed this . Help please. Thank you..

[@TheMrSuge]

@@flyguyinbluesky3156 Oswald didn't fire A weapon into his house, he fired THE same weapon that killed JFK. Ballistics tests proved that the bullet dug out of the general's dining room wall had been fired from Oswald's Carcano rifle.

[@leemoore9933]

@@TheMrSuge These conspiricay nuts hate facts, and that is/was a fact.

[@normagrimstad8869]

Oswald attempted to assassinate General Walker prior to the Kennedy assassination.

[@jeffclark7888]

@@normagrimstad8869 On April 10, 1963, my mother’s 30th birthday.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

25 minutes into this and it is a bunch of slapping each other on the back without a single piece of information. Very disappointing so far. Nearly 60 yrs later still stonewalling on the last of the documents. What are they hiding? Is it just incompetence and embarrassment? Or is there something much more sinister?

[@joelg83]

And what will be in the documents? Do you really think the government, if it was involved in anyway, would be been stupid enough to have written anything on a piece of paper? Of course not.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@joelg83 It's all part of the same puzzle. Did the CIA know Oswald? Did the FBI know Oswald? Did Oswald and Ruby know each other? How many slugs were recovered at Parkland? Was there a 45 slug found near the Manhole cover on South Elm? Who is the fake Oswald in the Embassy photos in Mexico City? What really happened to Detective Craig? Did he actually commit suicide? But not with one of the 2 pistols he owned but with a rifle he did not own? after several attempts on his life were made? Did Ruby know Oswald? They might not admit to anything, but we may be able to put the last pieces of the puzzle together.

[@aaronz7056]

@@davidarbuckle7236 Ahem. There is no evidence Ruby and Oswald knew each other. One slug was found at Parkland and it matched to Oswald's rifle. If it was planted the guy planting it would have had no idea if he was planting one bullet too many into evidence and blowing the whole plot. The real Oswald was talked with by witnesses on the bus and at two embassies in Mexico City so it doesn't matter who the other guy was they misidentified in the photo. Roger Craig was a demonstrable kook and serial liar whose words were flatly contradicted by an army of other police witnesses and who couldn't even keep his own BS stories straight over the years. The idea it would be necessary to "silence" this clown (12 years later!!!) when his credibility would have been shredded on the stand by any lawyer is hilarious. Oh, and there is no credible evidence of any previous attempts on his life either.

[@peterfraser9070]

you're the kind of sucker that these conspiracy authors prey on; because you're so willing to believe anything.

[@peterfraser9070]

Do you think the CIA killed Kennedy, actually filed some records in the first place proving their crime, then KEPT those records for the past 60 years?

[@Madmen604]

LA police jurisdictions did not communicate with each other either, which delayed apprehension of the Manson family. I think there were errors of omission by FBI and CIA at all levels.

[@williamwhitten7820]

Actually the real key is Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was a Central Intelligence Agency domestic espionage project targeting the American people from 1967 to 1974 Manson was one of the targets, that they surveilled the whole time he was in Box Canyon and Spawn Ranch. This particular operation was to shock the public mind and portray the hippy movement as vile and pathological rather than the 'Peace & Love' community that they really were. *In essence the Tate La Bianca murders were a false flag operation run by CIA.*

[@jeffclark7888]

Stupid.

[@lmsubman243]

Do I HAVE to believe the toilet WONT FLUSH because "there's still some chiT floating in it!'

[@winstonsmith3070]

FBI Special Agent Hosty has repeatedly said the the November 1963 letter Oswald delivered to the FBI office "contained no threat." Thus, to Howard Willens question which of the two, 180 degree opposite versions (i.e. burn down the office or stop bothering my wife and interview me) was accurate, I'd have to go with the first-hand account by Hosty and go with the latter.

[@shernitadee]

So he burns that letter, very important communication with Oswald, the man he was in charge of watching. A threatening letter said to burn down the FBI buildinv? Is that how FBI works?? Burn evidence? Oswald was working yards away from his office! He could have watched him from his office window! I'm sure he did. The Book Depository was right across the lawn to the Federal Building. Just like the original autopsy report, burn and destroy! Hosty couldn't be bothered to watch the President pass. These men were against the President politically !! He went in to have a cheese sandwich, saying, " it will all be over in a few minutes". The cops, the FBI, and all those men liked Ruby. He took care of them, in all kinds of ways, ...ILLEGALLY, with girls and drinks.

[@shernitadee]

I hear those police speak more highly of Ruby than the President. I hardly see any remorse from the officers.

[@williamwhitten7820]

Howard Willens got his ass handed to him on another panel by John Judge and Co; Fletcher Prouty - it was a video here on JFK the movie as history.

[@aaronz7056]

@@williamwhitten7820 The 1991 movie JFK is packed with over 80 major and *demonstrable* lies, and Prouty was a crackpot who spouted all kinds of hilarious "facts."

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@aaronz7056 *You should know better than to make your ignorant arguments to me based on the fantasy Warren Report nonsence.*

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Please explain the witnesses who said the saw multiple people on the 6th floor? I count at least 7 witnesses, not including the videos taken from the parade itself showing movement along with 4 windows open on the sixth floor.

[@TheMrSuge]

The only window that had "movement" in it on the 6th Floor was the corner window, where Oswald was located.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@TheMrSuge Absolutely not true. Watch Men on the sixth-floor chapter 10 You can see multiple people moving in the corner window and the one next to it.

[@aaronz7056]

@@davidarbuckle7236 On a film that blown up and grainy? Besides which no unidentified persons were ever seen coming down those stairs.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@aaronz7056Yes, including Oswald. The bigger question is why no one was seen going up the stairs. Had to be the flooring company that was involved. Byrd was a right-wing activist (owned the building) A flooring company could have moved equipment including the 3 guns that were found.

[@aaronz7056]

@@davidarbuckle7236 Are you drunk? "Three guns that were found..." LOL

[@ilianakai4998]

This is informational news, thank you!

[@distractionb]

Into should be short please

[@brettrobertson2538]

these guys on the commission should be utterly embarrassed for the BS they put out.

[@cobar5334]

Surprise... one became President! I agree. It is one huge lie

[@williamwhitten7820]

Yes, the Warren Report was total nonsense.

[@cobar5334]

@@williamwhitten7820 aimed at deflecting away from the truth of course. They, and their subsequent supporters, have continued the cover-up to this day. The TSBD 'Museum' is still a Lone Nut propaganda site

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@cobar5334 Yes indeed. Stephen Fagin is obviously a Warren Report supporter. That is certainly one of the qualifications for being the curator of the museum.

[@cobar5334]

@@williamwhitten7820 Yep. Cash for lying!

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

And so is yours.

[@peterfraser9070]

Marquita Oswald, is that you?

[@BK-uf6qr]

Your only as good as the info you have.

[@itinerantpatriot1196]

Time Magazine when asked about LHO subscription: "Where does he live now?" That would have been easy to answer: "Well, I've got a pretty good idea but unless your billing department uses paper that is super fire resistant I don't think he's going to receive it." Sorry, bad taste and all, but when someone leaves you that wide open it's hard not to take the shot.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@Itinerant Patriot: The TSBD Times asks: Where does Oswald live now? It's fairly accurate to say he's left the building.

[@peterfraser9070]

@@stddisclaimer8020 Him and Elvis

[@davidarbuckle7236]

The Trip to Mexico has never been verified, as all of the pictures show a completely different man. A man who went to High School with Mac Wallace. Even Hoover admitted that they had the wrong person in the pictures and the voice recording of him was someone else.

[@larrywheels762]

The. CIA had 24-7 surveillance, then claim Oswald was there. Then produce evidence of someone else,. They actually produced bogus evidence to prop up the Oswald did it theory.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@larrywheels762 And you have to ask yourself, why kind of protection did they have of POTUS when they knew in advance Oswald worked at Book Depository, and they were going to have a parade route turn right in front of the building with multiple open windows on multiple levels. and with 6 convertible limos with POTUS, VPOTUS, Gov John Connally, and two U.S. Senators? I mean this was a conspiracy or this was just awful incompetence from three different agencies along with Dallas Police.

[@larrywheels762]

@@davidarbuckle7236 there existed in Dallas a very extremist group that considered Kennedy a traitor. They had support financially from hl hunt who supported General Walker who was a leader of these reactionaries. A paramilitary group called the minutemen were involved in gun running and hated Kennedy. In this hostile city jfk arrived and was driven into an ambush . His security was compromised . The fake pro Castro orofile of the suspect exposes the real sponsors. Oswald was put together or groomed in order to link Castro. It's a very basic psych warfare technique.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

I read that too.

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@davidarbuckle7236 It says hide 4 replies, but there are only 2 replies?!?!?

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

His fleece was white as snow

[@jeffclark7888]

Four people with introductory remarks. Why? Too much introductory blabbing. Always.

[@ghostdance56]

Did anyone expect these politicians to criticize their own 'work'? Lets all keep in mind their 'work' is just an opinion of what the evidence showed. They didn't even have the burden of proving guilt in a courtroom.

[@johncooper7663]

Pissed off conspiracy guy alert.

[@ghostdance56]

@@johncooper7663 - Oh gee, now it's a DB Cooper fruitcake who suddenly believes anything politicians tell him to. I bet you call everyone racist too. LOL So you're claiming Oswald went to trial? Thats unique son. Tell us all what happened to the limo, you know, the 'scene of the crime'. Were Ruby's mob connections discussed at the trial, or covered up like in Warren report? How did Oswald get away with openly stating at the US consulate he would reveal top secret U2 spy plane data to the Russians and not get arrested upon his return? How did federal prosecutors defend that? Who was Oswald's lawyer at the trial, was it the same mob lawyer Ruby used, Marvin Belli? Lets see what you got son.

[@johncooper7663]

@@ghostdance56 ??? -there are volumes, entire books dedicated to Ruby and the mob. Never denied that. I do know that Ruby went into a western union office to wire 25 bucks to a dancer minutes before he loaned Oswald a bullet. Had there been one more person in line he would have missed his chance. Then he shot Oswald in a very not fatal place and got lucky and nicked a major vein. Doctors stabilized Oswald twice in two hours before he died, saving us decades of commie jargon. Jack Ruby, the super secret mob assassin who placed one poor shot instead of blasting the head repeatedly. Then Jack leaves a car load of dogs and wanted to know when he could go home because he was a hero. He knew mobsters, but as a jew, he wasn't connected in Dallas.

[@ghostdance56]

@@johncooper7663 - Yes, there sure are. You might want to try reading some of them. The 'two lone wolves' theory is the most ridiculous theory of them all sonny. But you have a remarkable grasp of the superficial. LOL

[@aaronz7056]

@@johncooper7663 Don't waste your time trying to argue with this guy, he even threatened me once.

[@Marlene837]

"The Warren Report withstood the test of time". What a bunch of bullocks.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@Marlene Westfall: The work of the WC has stood up very well over time. Did I just see you submit anything that would refute the statement? Or is your comment just a one line troll job?

[@swankybutters8371]

@@apointofinterest8574 Roscoe White, more than lightly the knoll shooter. 95% sure he was the min sized tramp in a wig and more than lightly the stand in for Oswald in the backyard photos.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@swankybutters8371 You're playing a fantasy board game of "Clue." And you're playing mostly with yourself.

[@swankybutters8371]

@@apointofinterest8574 You can plug up your ears is you like. I know what I can see and what I see is very clear.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@swankybutters8371 Yes, we know what you "can see." Only trouble is, no one rational and reasonable sees the same. Take it up with either 1) Your optometrist or 2) a mental health professional. Aside from that, get another hobby and stop trivializing a tragic event.

[@bobdecarlo7778]

I've read two significant works about the assassination & about the assassin & his wife- they are Vincent Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History" and Priscilla McMillan Johnson's "Marina & Lee." Not sure how easily one can find Johnson's book & Bugliosi's copy needs to be the unabridged edition(1200 pages I believe). These are well researched, well done works. I recommend them to all.

[@simplesimon4717]

Rubbish

[@dks13827]

Correct. Great books.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Director Hoover dress and heels?

[@peterfraser9070]

Director Hoover dress and heels? Don't mind if I do!

[@erichhitchcock3368]

I think it was Jerry Seinfeld who finally solved this case. "....A bdeet bdeet th that's all fo folks!"

[@jeffclark7888]

“First began” - tautology.

[@davidwilliams4498]

Sure looks like in zapruder film last 2 shots very close together hit jfk. After throat shot you see his head quickly lean down an less than second later he goes back hard an to left that's last awful head shot expanding bullet exit wound. Super slow motion hard to not see this though not the Warren commission they stuck on the 3 shots 6 floor Oswald

[@peterfraser9070]

"Sure looks like in zapruder film last 2 shots very close together hit jfk.": What do you mean? He got it in the base of the neck and it came out the throat and went thru Connally, who can be seen blatantly and clearly reacting to being shot at the same time. About 5.5 seconds later, Kennedy gets drilled - as good ol' Walter Cronkite put it - in the back of the head. There are three reasons perfectly visible on the film that make that 100% clear.

[@dks13827]

@@peterfraser9070 yes.

[@peterfraser9070]

@@dks13827 I'm glad you agree. Sadly, there are all too few non ct'ers here.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

I mean i am 73 but at 15 I could count 3 shots!!!!!!

[@peterfraser9070]

I mean i am 73 but at 15 I could count 3 shots!!!!!!:" Exactly, there were 3 shots, not 4 or 5 or 6 or any of that BS.

[@frankfacts6207]

handmaidens of the generals and admirals' corps - the cover uppers

[@randyharris3175]

Cover Uppers my ass prove it.

[@cobar5334]

@@randyharris3175 There is ample proof. There are many good books - I would start with 'Impossible. The Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald' by Barry Krusch (Not sure about surname spelling)

[@randyharris3175]

@@cobar5334 Ample proof of what?

[@cobar5334]

@@randyharris3175 Of Oswald's innocence

[@randyharris3175]

@@cobar5334 There is no evidence of Oswalds innocence its just that simple.Anybody can put anything into a book.

[@williamwhitten7820]

I had been given an advance copy to the Review Board. I had heard, as many who had worked on the case had, the rumor about Slawson’s colleague, William Coleman, another Warren Commission attorney. The rumor was that Coleman had, at his poolside, told a British researcher that the two attorneys, Coleman and Slawson, had traveled to Mexico City in the spring of 1964 and listened to the tape-recorded intercept of a phone call allegedly made by Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City in the fall of 1963. In view of the CIA’s claim that the tapes had all been erased several weeks before the assassination, this second-hand hearsay was interesting. The rumor about Coleman’s remark was nevertheless useless in terms of its credibility. Another Board member explained the facts to Slawson: the Review Board was now, by statute, the governing authority on the withholding of any information concerning the JFK case. Slawson was asked a second time: “Did you listen to the Mexico City tapes?” Again, he replied with the exact same words, “I’m sorry, but I’m not at liberty to discuss that.” It was not my place to say anything to him but I wanted to, for I knew what was at stake. On the table was an advance copy of Oswald and the CIA, and in that book I had made the argument that Oswald’s voice was not on the Mexico City tapes. John Newman, Oswald and the CIA: The Documented Truth About the Unknown Relationship Between the U.S. Government and the Alleged Killer of JFK .

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Watch Men on the sixth floor. Chapter 9. Not proof but very interesting. The person in the picture is Ralph Geb. He showed up in almost all the pictures in Mexico City as Oswald. They have NEVER produced a photo of Oswald in Mexico City or Cuba. But you know who was in Cuba? Jack Ruby!

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@davidarbuckle7236 Thank you David, I will watch that today!

[@aaronz7056]

"The rumor was..." lol

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@aaronz7056 *The rumor has circulated that Aaron Z is a real person rather than the obvious shill he displays that he is in every comment made.*

[@aaronz7056]

@@williamwhitten7820 So being a shill means asking questions of conspiracy theorists they can never answer and consistently deflect from?

[@BenLondonN6]

I've looked at the case several times over the past 45 years or so - purely as a layman wanting to understand what happened. I think the Warren Commission got closer to the solution than anyone else did, with the exception of the timing of the 1st shot. I'm with Max Holland on that, ie Zapruder turned his camera back on a few seconds late, and didn't film it, however... one mystery still perplexes me... namely the switch from the heavy ornamental coffin, to body bag in a shipping casket, that must have happened between unloading from Airforce One and arriving at Bethesda. What's with that? Has anyone come up with a credible explanation yet?

[@aaronz7056]

People were mistaken... Jackie and RFK accompanied the casket tot he hospital. People who claim the body was "messed with" have yet to explain two things: - how a "conspiracy" was able to approach and recruit scores of FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, witnesses, etc., and persuade them all to alter wounds, fake reports, forge autopsies and falsify x-rays, thus making themselves accessories to murder and treason - why it would be so urgent and necessary to take so many risks doing that instead of just saying Oswald must have had an accomplice who got away, which most people would have bought just fine and which would have suited a conspiracy just fine.

[@BenLondonN6]

@@aaronz7056 I agree that the body being mucked about with is implausible but I’m still perplexed by those in the casket receiving detail at Bethesda, assembled by Petty Officer Dennis David, who said that Kennedy arrived in a body bag inside a standard aluminium shipping casket. After David’s detail had carried it into the autopsy room, Dr. J Thornton Boswell, one of the pathologists, confirmed to David that Kennedy’s body had been inside it and David said that it had arrived in a black private ambulance between 18:05 and 18:15. That contradicts the narrative that the ornamental bronze coffin had arrived at Bethesda at 18:55, with Kennedy’s body in it and accompanied by Mrs. Kennedy, in the light grey ambulance. I am not a conspiracy theorist by any means but I think it’s possible that the body could have been moved and transported in a different casket and ambulance, out of the legitimate fear, that it might be intercepted and stolen.

[@dianecollins8122]

***BenLondonN6*** I had seen a 1-2 hour interview with Clint Hill, who was one of Secret Service bodyguards riding on the running board of the follow-up car behind the Presidential limousine at the fateful moment when President Kennedy shot. Clint Hill was at Parkland Hospital with Mrs. Kennedy, during that tumultuous time, when a local Dallas mortuary was contacted. The most deluxe and expensive casket offered by that mortuary is what was selected for President Kennedy at that time. While it was the best, the sturdiest, and the most of the line casket was chosen, it wasn’t the most practical for Secret Service Agents for carrying up the stairs and into the airplane. The casket’s carrying handles had to be broken off at that time in order to be able to fit it through the airplane’s doorway. The casket was also reported to have weighed 600 pounds with nothing in it, which was heavy to be carrying into and out of an airplane. So, it appears that President Kennedy’s change to a different casket during or after the airplane ride was done for practical reasons.

[@peterfraser9070]

I've read that because his head had continued bleeding and the casket was a mess - and extremely heavy too - they switched it to something more practical. '''

[@donsimon34]

You must be a fool to believe a whole bunch of attorneys, are they going to say they were wrong?

[@frankrobinsjr.1719]

The Warren Commission was only there to give an answer, not the facts.

[@johncooper7663]

You haven't even read the WC report.

[@frankrobinsjr.1719]

@@johncooper7663 no one has. Have you seen all the redactions.

[@aaronz7056]

Ahem.. Why?

[@frankrobinsjr.1719]

@@aaronz7056 If the government could be seen to be on top of the situation, there would be less questions. If they were forced to give facts, they would have needed evidence to back up their claims and assertions and would have had to answer for their own deeds.

[@aaronz7056]

@@frankrobinsjr.1719 They had evidence, and all of it points right to Oswald's guilt.

[@lisagoodin2959]

Did these guys not KNOW all the documents that would be released in 2017?

[@lassehult7468]

No, this video was posted 2014. And what i been reading from Sweden mr Trump did NOT released all files. Trump said in a memo, citing "potentially irreversible harm" to national security if he were to allow all records to come out now.

[@randyharris3175]

@@lassehult7468 The files that were released basically verified WC.Robert Blakey said if toy think there is a smoking gun in those unreleased

[@randyharris3175]

@@lassehult7468 Files you're stoned.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Probably not. These guys were shafted along with the rest of the country...

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Wait a sec TRUMP??? DETAILS SIL VOUS PLAIT???????

[@shernitadee]

So much BULL!! He is full of speculations!!!

[@shernitadee]

So his friend goes to work for Robert and he is dropped from his Christmas Card list...

[@peterfraser9070]

Yes, they are just speculations...he's got irrational theories about an assassin witnesses saw and a rifle that was actually found that the bullets came from...and just imagine, he thinks it makes sense to put all the hard and soft evidence together, examine it as a whole, and come to a logical conclusion. What a nut.

[@davedillon1372]

How come NOBODY EVER SEEMED TO QUESTION WHY el BJ DIDN'T 'ASK' THE HOOVER TO BE ON THE COMMISSION‽ HE'S A GOOD TIME SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? HMMM

[@ghostdance56]

Son, the FBI had already completed their report on the JFK murder. Warren was formed because so many people didn't believe the FBI report and LBJ wanted to restore confidence in the FBI investigation.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@Dave Dillon: Who cares if Hoover was or was not asked to be on the Commission! It would not prove a thing one way or another even if he was. And ditto with Dulles.

[@ghostdance56]

@@stddisclaimer8020 - Hoover had already completed his investigation by December, And that report is what Warren was formed to review. So it's a naive question to start. But appointing Dulles showed the true colors of what Warren was all about, given Kennedy had just fired him. It wasn't an investigation at all, right from the start. Warren is formed to ensure they can narrow the scope to Oswald, they dismiss any leads to the contrary, and their outcome was predetermined, as Hoover himself indicates in a memo to Johnson. It's no longer speculation either son, the material released since 1993 make it clear enough what happened. Warren is a total fraud, it's a political cover squad.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@ghostdance56 As you've aptly demonstrated, even the biggest lie can contain a small kernel of truth. The problem rests in your mutating the mini grains into a whole wayward wheat field. Yes, the FBI’s investigation was too short, for your select taste. But forget Hoover, as the DPD had essentially solved the case within a day, and as it turns out, they got it entirely correct. The idea of something wrong with Dulles serving on the WC panel has nowhere to go in light of the facts that 1) There’s been no proof in 58+ years that the CIA was involved in the assassination and 2) It was RFK, the slain president's brother who recommend Dulles to LBJ (unless you're foolish enough to allege Bobby was in on the big-ass vast conspiracy to murder and/or cover up the murder of his own brother). If you think the Warren report was a “fraud,” you must write your own exhaustive ~800 page report in rebuttal; inclusive of solid evidence, i.e. the full name of the alternate assassin, an identified linked weapon, bullet(s) and/or bullet fragments etc. to support a fully delineated cogent and viable alternate story line. However, given that most CT's like yourself are simply mindless recyclers of long-debunked “theories,” handicapped by poor writing skills, and hobbled by a dearth of credible evidence, it's no surprise that as far as writing a report goes, in 58+ years, not one of you has produced Page One. That's the *_real_* fraud in this case.

[@ghostdance56]

@@stddisclaimer8020 - LOL, No son, they didn't even try to come close. The documents released since 1993, which you totally ignore, have revealed virtually everything there is to know. Some of this data is only a few years old now, and much more is known than ever before. But Warren is a joke to those who actually try to understand it. You CIA defenders are WAY undernourished. In the interest of my time, tell me all you know about Ruth Payne's parents and sister briefly. Then describe Michael Payne's parents for me. Let see if you know your own butt from a hole in the ground. Otherwise, to me you're just a babe in the woods sonny.

[@pilgrim9593]

Bull. The magic bullet is the one that shows there were more then one shooter. I challenge anyone to recreate that shot. P. S. If it's so clear cut that Oswald did it why did you classify everything?

[@TheMrSuge]

Actually the TV show Myth Busters recreated that shot a couple years ago. And it wasn't that hard to do, either

[@pilgrim9593]

@@TheMrSuge no no no.. not that. Put two mannequins in the same position (they have some pretty realistic mannequins this days that have same densities of bone etc) and take a shot. All they have to do is hit the entry wound. The targets don;t even have to be moving to convince me. And if the bullet takes the same route i will be convinced. I tell you if they take 1000 shots that will not happen.. Myth busters said that cola cleans rust and other shit that are not true. I still clean rust with vinegar not cola so... P.S. And i return to my other question why make it classified if everything was clear? If they were not covering their stinking asses?

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@pilgrim9593 Expert riflemen for the Warren Commission, the FBI and also the CBS investigation duplicated the shot and even improved on the timing.

[@swankybutters8371]

Some need to keep the myth alive I guess.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

it blows my mind still that the Dallas police :"accidently" lost all the transcripts of the interviews they had with Oswald before Ruby shot him

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

NIxon to Trump single bullet theory

[@duanecargle8189]

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[@viewerpet12]

If there are no conspiracies then there CAN NOT be any coincidences.

[@nyujay2010]

wait, what? lol

[@aaronz7056]

Yeah, that made sense.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@Lenard Melvin: In the _demimonde_ of conspiratorial thinking, there are no such things as coincidences, accidents or mistakes. Everything *_must_* be endowed with sinister implications.

[@aaronz7056]

@@stddisclaimer8020 Tell that to Vince Palamara. lol

[@shernitadee]

I am told not to be bothered, it was all just full of coincidences!! Sorry, i will never believe there were so many coincidences!!

[@patbyrneme007]

The speakers all try to oversell the Warren Commission's work and conclusions. This has the opposite effect on many of us. None of them raised any doubts or criticisms ofvwthe Commission's work which is ridiculous for such a massive enterprise. The question then arises why all these lawyers are so solidly behind the Commission's procedures and conclusions. The reality is that if any of the lawyers had broken from this unanimity it would have effectively been the end of their career. There is no way that the FBI, CIA, Justice Department etc. would not have hounded them as radicals or conspiracy nuts. The Sixth Floor institute is clearly highly biased. Almost all of their sessions are supportive of the Warren Commission. Is that connected to their funding?

[@viewerpet12]

It is because they are all lazy fools who are easily confused by simple arguments. They would rather repeat the robot version. They have to prove Oswald did it. We don't have to prove Oswald did not do it.

[@TheMrSuge]

@@viewerpet12 Actually, no matter your assertion, yes, in fact you do have to prove it. Are you aware of all the evidence against Oswald ? What, exactly, is the evidence that points to someone else ?

[@TheMrSuge]

@@viewerpet12 Hello ... what is the evidence that points to someone else ? The world is waiting

[@aaronz7056]

@@viewerpet12 That's okay, it can be proved Oswald did it.

[@peterfraser9070]

You didn't listen to a word they said and you have no clue as to what was actually in the Warren Report. You only know the distorted conspiracy theorist's version. For ex. you know your CT Magic Bullet Theory (with its bullsh%$t claim that the bullet entered lower than it exited, etc), but you're not acquainted with the blatantly- obviously true Single Bullet Conclusion that was in the Warren Report. Try getting acquainted with info from reputable sources. It's more interesting that conspiracy stories precisely because it is true.

[@niyomphusopha6613]

Connally and wife is decoy.

[@swankybutters8371]

They had NO idea what was going down that day or they never would have gone...

[@rick4electric]

Oswald was a low level CIA operative that they manipulated into becoming a patsy, just like Lee said. There were lots of reasons and lots of people who wanted Jack out of the way, but none had the money and power to accomplish it until the owners of the "Federal" Reserve, the Rothschilds (52%), decided he had to go. You see, the Rothschilds had their own pet projects. One of these was the newly formed state of Israel (16 yrs). This family, ever vigilant about global resources, understood the major role that the energy stocks of oil and uranium and especially the Middle-East would play in future strategic chess games of world politics. They needed a trump card to protect their investment. One that no amount political turmoil could unravel. Nuclear weapons were the perfect military asset that a small country like Israel could have! Jack Kennedy or no Jack Kennedy Israel was gonna have them! So early in 1963 the Israelis arranged the theft of 200 pounds of weapons grade Uranium from a manufacturing plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania! U.S. Intelligence traced that theft to Israel. So in a letter dated May 18, 1963, the President demanded an inspection of the Dimona Nuclear Research Facility in the Negev desert. Rothschild was adamant that they would never ever even get close to that Uranium! So, to avoid answering the Presidential Letter, Prime Minister David ben Gurion resigned! This would buy them the time they needed to formulate a response. They had to make it clear to the Americans that no inspection of Israel's nuclear weapons research lab would be tolerated! Now you can see why they chose an Israeli Arms dealer to oversee the movie "JFK" and why they are STILL keeping the reason for the assassination a secret! Even at this late date, knowledge of these events would have severe foreign policy repercussions!

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@rick4electric Your post is comprised of 5% facts, 95% lies, speculation and factoids.

[@aaronz7056]

He only said he was a patsy in regards to being hassled by The Man for having lived in Russia, not because he thought a coup was setting him up as the assassin of the President of the United States.

[@jb-vb8un]

@rick4zilchfacts - ya lack evidence or sources

[@donsimon34]

President Kennedy did not want a nuclear Israel. That's why the Israelis did not want any inspections. The so call cabal with Rotschids at the head, wanted Kennedy out of the way. They were furious at Jacks reluctance to start the war in Viet Nam. And the most important fact was that he wanted to print our money at the Treasury Department, on other words to take their control at the Fed. Which they run since 1913 up to today. Johnson was the one they wanted there, he would reverse Kennedy's policies, which he did. The excuse that this man uses for Ruby having shot Oswald because he thought that the Jews would be blame on the Jews for Kennedy's assassination is utterly ridiculous.

[@peterfraser9070]

"manipulated into becoming a patsy, just like Lee said": He didn't say anything like that.

[@billkeon880]

Willens book is absolutely superb. If you haven’t read it, you must…especially if you have any conspiracy leanings

[@TheTEAMBUTLER]

Jfks death has turned into a huge money making scheme

[@domochoa]

TheTEAMBUTLER Go to my site jfk$$$.com Enter code “jfk$$$ to get 20 % off. Do you wanna make zillions from home.....

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Hey s sec here????? Little negeo child in school i were telling us to duck under plastiv desks and chsirs. While u were building bunkers. Under ur houses?? Knew that but thank you sweet humane care takerd reap what u sow

[@dks13827]

I don't think Lee used the scope, he used the iron sights. He did not know how to sight in a scope. And he did not have a bunch of ammo to used to sight in the scope.

[@Cummings7]

We’ll never know. And how do you know that he didn’t know how to sight a scope?

[@erniecortes5453]

The question is did he fired the gun

[@Cummings7]

@@erniecortes5453 🙄

[@markjohnston4119]

What a farce

[@peterfraser9070]

"What a farce" these conspiracy theories are

[@fuglbird]

No wonder the Warren Commission failed. Was this really the best lawyers in USA?

[@randyharris3175]

What's your criticism based on?I bet it's because you disagreed with their conclusions.Back up your criticism with some facts.Seriously your opinion dosen't mean shit.

[@randyharris3175]

@@chiphebert2509 yes

[@randyharris3175]

@@chiphebert2509 They said it was not necessary to absolutely say which one missed.Though the evidence indicates first shot missed.

[@vernpascal1531]

Best Lawyers in the world could never save The Warren Commission. Sad to see so many in the media think their conclusions are remotely valid.

[@thomaschristianwilliams4542]

Conspiracy theorists are so tired. They need a good night’s sleep. Get some cookies and milk. Don’t forget your favorite stuffed animal. Ask your mother to tuck you in. Tomorrow you’ll wake up feeling better...

[@mikeeubanks7879]

Do s c

[@jozefgregor8748]

Warrenova komisia a jej výsledok -kto sa môže zaoberať takýmto paškvilom ?

[@swankybutters8371]

Ľudia, ktorí klamú...

[@duanecargle8189]

ጀነነነ

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

They were shafted or they liked their jobs. 1st of all why not track him in Russia???????

[@cobar5334]

He was there as a spy. Good evidence for that

[@aaronz7056]

@@cobar5334 There is no evidence for that.

[@randyharris3175]

That's what it's all about writing books and keep the money and conspiracy flowing any reasonable person can get enough info on you tube to debunk any conspiracy theory

[@vernpascal1531]

You mean any honest halfway intelligent person can find a plethora of good solid evidence that buries the Warren Commission forever!

[@randyharris3175]

Such as what conspirator back up your mouth show me the facts

[@randyharris3175]

There is no evidence if an conspiracy you saying it does not make it true people lie and make up stories all this stuff has been debunked

[@randyharris3175]

@Kalevi Urpilainen your so called truth is 56 years and still waiting

[@randyharris3175]

@Kalevi Urpilainen the majority if people are on your side because people want to believe in a conspiracy but if you had done the research ive done you would know its not a conspiracy if you had read the book reclaming history you would know its not an conspiracy if you had looked at WC testimony watched actual interviews with people who were really there if you had listened to Humes Boswel and Frink explanation of the autopsy you would know its not an conspiracy and i could. Go on and on ive heard the comments from the other side snd studied Lane Garrison Weck and exposed there false hoods but to your question it is not difficult to believe some people in this case ir there family could be hurt from the release of certain files that does not mean there holding back facts about the actual assassanation do you realize there are over one million pages of files in the national archives in kennedy for instance maybe the cia would not want a investigory prosedure they used to be revealed to the public there are many factors involved good example look at Roswell and all the stuff they held back and jyst became public not many years ago

[@rosiewhite8313]

Has anything else ever happened in Dallas? What a nice little earner JFK's assassination turned into!!

[@swankybutters8371]

Ahhh, isn't that really what these things are really about? $$$$$... Seems like this has been the case for a long time in our world.

[@leemoore9933]

@@swankybutters8371 You choose to use the symbol of the Zodiac, go figure.

[@swankybutters8371]

@@leemoore9933 Well of course, been investigating the Zodiac Killer for sometime. Like I was investigation JFK... 99% sure Arthur Leigh Allen is the Zodiac and I'm 85% sure Roscoe White was the knoll shooter.

[@larrywheels762]

The mob and lbj and his oil buddies agree with you. The assassination was very profitable in Texas.

[@janetphillips2875]

Roe vs. Henry Wade, DA

[@fisterklister]

JFK was hit from the front

[@goodgood9955]

How do you know?

[@ckom0007]

Good Good There’s no evidence for anything that didn’t come out of LHO’s rifle. Conspiracy theorists always forget that fact.-

[@fisterklister]

@@ckom0007 Even if LHO be the lone assassin, a conspiracy seems very plausible. By the way, I am no conspiracy theorist.

[@ckom0007]

jorgenmoll Okay but those two sentences make no sense then... There was no conspiracy.

[@fisterklister]

@@ckom0007 It makes perfect sense. If LHO had collaborators, it was by definition a conspiracy.

[@TheToonMonkey]

There's a famous picture of the Warren commission members all sat around a table. You can tell from the picture that whatever that commission came up with was going to crap. Only Russell came out wit any dignity.

[@TheMrSuge]

There were photographed sitting around a table ? THAT's your conspiracy ?

[@peterfraser9070]

You most definitely can NOT tell something like that from looking at a picture of them at a table. Get real.

[@jb-vb8un]

@peter fras - they planned to steal Joe Namath & Rachel Welch, stow them on dr Quest jet, fly to Argentina, and hide out with W.C. Fields .... YOU CAN TELL by ' looking ' at the pic

[@Cathleen7259]

The Kennedy Family is coming to town! JFK Jr is alive and well!

[@leemoore9933]

The truth about the events of Nov 22, 1963 is just to damm boring so some have to believe in all these ridiculous theories.

[@peterfraser9070]

"The truth about the events of Nov 22, 1963 is just to damm boring so some have to believe in all these ridiculous theories": Exactly! for ex. one boring thing is that one of the witnesses who supposedly saw a gun shot flash only saw an empty coke bottle thrown in the air around the time of the shots. The sun caught it and that was the flash he saw. Mark Lane distorted his words and turned that into a 2nd gunman, for crying out loud.

[@juliocalderon5448]

Lies, lies

[@sharonseeley1677]

Omg such lies

[@dannycorsaro546]

Ugh,to cover it up?

[@ZenPepperClub]

Everything about the assassination is fishy, however the cover up may not be what you think it is, Oswald probably did shoot, after all he was a sharp shooter, but otherwise this whole deal is odd 😊

[@sandraford1434]

Lies, lies and more lies!

[@sandraford1434]

But then again what would one expect from a panel like this. The throat wound was one of ENTRANCE1

[@colerxxx]

Don't you know it Sandra!

[@goodgood9955]

Can u prove just one lie?

[@goodgood9955]

@@sandraford1434 no. Forensics prove otherwise.

[@csutherland9865]

I can't say that something is a lie, but I have been working on a project that matches up a lot of activity and testimony to lines in the play "12 Angry Men." If you look at the timeline of the defendant in the play/movie, and Oswald's timeline after the shooting, you will see that they match. Every bit of evidence in the play is used in the report, too.

[@green856w]

Slawson - boring speaker. Anecdotes without evidence. Switched off this video because of him.

[@bluesky6985]

The Warren comission covered up the CIA coupe d'etat.

[@jamesanthony5681]

*coup* d'etat

[@TheMrSuge]

Their plan was to put Johnson in the presidency ? He's from the same party as JFK. Doesn't sound like much of a coup

[@aaronz7056]

And this coup knew it could safely approach and recruit scores of police, ballistics experts, FBI, Secret Service, Oswald's family, military personnel, x-ray technicians, doctors, witnesses, journalists, news anchors, network honchos, the Chief Justice, lawyers, congressmen, counsels, senators, etc., and persuade them all to trust each other implicitly, obey illegal orders to commit serious and complex crimes, make themselves all accessories to murder and treason and bend over backwards helping a coup overthrow their own government *how* exactly...?

[@bluesky6985]

@@aaronz7056 You don't think one man could do it alone do you

[@aaronz7056]

@@bluesky6985 So you are presumably admitting you can't answer my question then, what a surprise. Good point, though. You name me even one time in the 20th century where a lone assassin ever took a shot at a President and only sheer luck saved that President. lol

[@briancaldwell6799]

one point of fact, ruby's joints were burlesque/vaudeville-leftover clubs. why attempt to discredit him his employees and his hired performers (male and female)? you evidently were never in his clubs either (oswald). you just repeat what most others say. if you all like to criticize strippers so much... look at yourself strip in the mirror for 10 minute segments while playing some kind of bump and grind music. judge not. pilgrims.

[@ckom0007]

More proof that there was no conspiracy...

[@2DclanSnipingTeam]

The official view of the U.S. government is that there probably was a conspiracy. Per The House select Committee on Assassinations, 1979.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@2DclanSnipingTeam The HSCA had no proof of a conspiracy. They named no names and recommended charges against any person or group. The only determinator for their conclusion of "probable conspiracy" was audio from a dictabelt recording alleged to reveal a 4th shot. But that notion was debunked 3 years later by the the National Academy of Science. Which left the HSCA with nothing meaningful but a commendation from the Warren Commission for their fine work.

[@shernitadee]

@@apointofinterest8574 Wrong! There was inter fighting and disagreements! People were fired and replaced and a few quit! McCloy was an early opponent of the Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone-gunman theory. At the Warren Commission meeting on 16th December, 1963, Allen Dulles gave out copies of a ten-year old book that looked at the seven previous attempts on the lives of various presidents. The author argued that presidential assassins typically are misfits and loners. Dulles told his colleagues, “…you’ll find a pattern running through here that I think we’ll find in this present case.” McCloy replied: “The Lincoln assassination was a plot”. McCloy also told his wife he was having difficulty with the lone-gunman theory. He also informed her that he thought Oswald was having a relationship with the intelligence services before the assassination. McCloy commented that he thought it was “pretty suspicious” that Oswald had found it so easy to obtain an exit visa from the Soviet Union for his Russian wife, Marina Oswald. McCloy told his wife that he had heard “a very realistic rumor” that Oswald was not a genuine defector and that he was sent to the Soviet Union by the CIA. McCloy was also concerned about the workings on the Warren Commission. They met only twice in December, 1963. The third meeting did not take place until the third week of January. John McCone reported to Lyndon B. Johnson on 9th January that McCloy had complained the previous day about this lack of urgency. McCloy told McCone that he feared the “trails of evidence will be lost” and that they have been interviewing witnesses soon after the assassination. In fact, the commission did not get the chance to question witnesses until nearly six months after the event. McCloy became concerned about the nature of Kennedy’s wounds. At one meeting he said: “Let’s find out about these wounds, it is just as confusing now as could be. It left my mind muddy as to what really did happen… Why did the FBI report come out with something which isn’t consistent with the autopsy.” At this stage McCloy suspected that at least two men fired at John F. Kennedy. He said he wanted to visit Dealey Plaza “to see if it is humanly possible for him (Kennedy) to have been hit in the front.” It also emerged that McCloy was highly critical of the FBI report on the assassination. He blamed it on the report being “put together very fast”. What McCloy did not know was that J. Edgar Hoover was withholding evidence from the Warren Commission. Nor was he aware of the Hoover telephone call to LBJ on 24th November, 1963, when he said: “The thing I am most concerned about… is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassination.” At a meeting with J. Lee Rankin on 22nd January, 1964, McCloy was told that according to the Texas attorney general, Oswald had been an undercover agent of the FBI since September 1962. According to Rankin, his agent number was 179 and was being paid $200 a month. McCloy was also in communication with the Time-Life executive, C. D. Jackson, about the Zapruder film. Jackson sent McCloy blown-up transparencies of the film that revealed that John F. Kennedy and Connally had been hit by different bullets. McCloy also questioned Connally’s doctor at the hospital, who was also of the opinion that he had been hit by a separate bullet from Kennedy. In an interview he gave on 3rd July, 1967, McCloy said: “I think there’s one thing I would do over again. I would insist on those photographs and the X-rays having being produced before us.” During the investigation members of the Warren Commission were told by Earl Warren that the Kennedy family was blocking access to these photographs and X-rays. McCloy initially dismissed the idea of the magic bullet but he was persuaded to change his mind. So much so, when Richard Russell, Thomas Hale Boggs and John Sherman Cooper said that they had “strong doubts” about the lone gunman theory, McCloy took the side of Gerald R. Ford and Allen Dulles. In fact, McCloy played the main role in persuading the three men to sign the Warren Commission report that they did not believe in. From Spartagus education

[@MrAmbassador11]

@@apointofinterest8574 The WC had no proof that Lee Oswald was guilty, either. What fine work are you refering to?

[@aaronz7056]

@@shernitadee Spartacus (not "Spartagus") Education is a pile of conspiracy theories, it's hilarious. All a gang would have needed in 1963 to take out JFK as he rides through a major city in an open limo would be one marksman who can peel off a disguise, dump his gun, disappear and leave the authorities with an unsolved mystery on their hands. What on earth is the logic of instead going with some vast, sprawling, risky plot, fraught with random chance and unpredictable witnesses all over the place, dragging in more and more conspirators, committing more and more crimes, piling cover-ups atop cover-ups, when it could all go so wrong in a thousand ways and the bigger you make such a conspiracy, the more likely it's going to eventually unravel as people start losing their nerve and singing like canaries, as in Watergate. How, exactly, did they know, in advance, that they could get a bipartisan government investigation (whose members would be international heroes whose careers would be set for life if they brought Kennedy's real murderers to justice) and get them all to bend over backwards as virtual accessories to the assassination of their own President?

[@Madmen604]

Boring disjointed presentations, too bad.

[@shernitadee]

Yes. They just talked about themselves, waste of time to listen. No facts!

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@shernitadee JFK conspiracy "theories" are the fact-less things.

[@deanbritt9131]

Rubbish

[@swankybutters8371]

Yeah, seems like it. Roscoe White is an interesting part of this story...

[@michaeljacobs2954]

The Whitewash Commission

[@michaelharrison7072]

Greatest cover up in american history !

[@TRM_54]

LIAR

[@mitchg64]

Coup d'etat right in front of witnesses

[@peterfraser9070]

"Coup d'etat right in front of witnesses": lame

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

This is BS

[@billmartyn-smith1364]

This whole thing was a joke.

[@ghostdance56]

These guys are so full of themselves it's pathetic.

[@peterfraser9070]

What else could YOU possibly say?

[@ghostdance56]

@@peterfraser9070 - I say all the rest all the time. Stick around. But these guys are pathetic. I know you worship what they say like it's your bible. LOL

[@PostalWorker14]

Total coverup

[@uy7munir]

treason in action

[@kb9788]

Celebration of incompetence, lies. And cover-ups.

[@jb-vb8un]

@K. B. - thats what the COLTS fans said after losing to Namath & THE JETS. Thanks brah

[@peterfraser9070]

Celebration of incompetence, lies. And cover-ups": The real conspiracy is all you CT people trying to gaslight the rest of us.