The Working Poor: Britain's families living on the breadline

[@zeedee1120]

The worst feeling is when u work full time and have nothing to show for it, it can be really depressing....

[@emmanemandji2088]

Zee Dee I know what you mean

[@wendyjane6634]

I work 44 hrs really hard manual work and my pay after tax just pays rent council tax and food bills nothing for clothes unless I save :(

[@FuManBoobs]

Here's the thing, if all these wealthy people keep banging on about how fair and good it all is, then there should be an "income swap" type of system, where for a set period of time they get paid the same as someone struggling, of course minus any costs they must have like mortgage, travel etc. But all the the disposable income gets swapped for a month or so. If it's all so good then they shouldn't complain...should they?

[@emmadee5181]

I agree with you.

[@LabRat6619]

I've been right round the globe and believe me life could be much worse.

[@antman5474]

it all boils down to overpriced accommodation. turning human habitation into money making schemes is just plain wrong.

[@dogsenseforu301]

Ant Laud absolutely. Less than 50% of Londoners own their own place.... 30% r getting gov't support..... + Landowners benefit from taxpayers top ups.

[@antman5474]

Leonard ...how does that explain the affordable housing shortage in the west country? No dark skinned immigrants in the west country, just regular brits. Immigration can't be blamed for the housing crisis. The housing crisis is the result of turning human habitation in to money making schemes, and that's capitalism pure and simple.

[@PhunkBustA]

your both right, but just remember, that it wasnt too long ago that britain was shipping people out of the country

[@heliotropezzz333]

It's the law of supply and demand. Not enough supply? Not enough affordable or social housing or housing for first time buyers built? Then the price of housing and accommodation goes up. The government for a long time has actually prevented local councils from building social housing. Developers have often been 'landbanking' - sitting on land they own just waiting for its value to go up, rather than building on it. The government also relies on people being too despondent to vote, or not registering to vote.

[@heliotropezzz333]

@KEKKER TM Kekker TM. You don't understand economics. Estate agents could not value properties at a price that the market would not bear. There have to be enough buyers who want to, or can, buy at that price, otherwise property would not sell. When demand exceeds supply prices go up. Somewhere to live is a necessity so people will prioritise that in their spending.

[@stefanking303]

Some of us don't have any family or friends to help out

[@abbeyroberts817]

Yeah I feel for those I guess I'm lucky I have family to help out but they always say won't be here forever so u must start now

[@stefanking303]

@@abbeyroberts817 it's tough but everything I have I've worked and paid for.

[@lbunnygordon1133]

Yes .. people think Im so happy to be unemployed and living back home ...6 years of constant criticism have given me an eating and anxiety disorder, and I dont remember getting more than 3 hours sleep. I used to work so many hours rent a bad room in a shared house. But then since 2008 found it harder and harder to get work. Finally in 2018 I was made redundant and found nothing ....my life is going by at 60 and I cant ever see employment again ....Everyone says be positive but after seeing same fake jobs appearing, am coming to end of my tether. Before virus was bad enough, having now had virus feeling worse psychologically...

[@stefanking303]

@@lbunnygordon1133 keep your chin up love I've been there and been on the streets

[@lbunnygordon1133]

@@stefanking303 Thank you Stefan ...its kind of you to reply

[@BoracayADMIRER]

The MAIN PROBLEM is the way too high RENTS for housing. If they were down, people could live from their income!

BoracayADMIRER The main problem is people popping out kids they can’t afford: and if that housing is too expensive, move

[@ashsqx3246]

yes!!! and the greed of owners real estate industry and banks are responsible!!! worst thing is they are making money not out of any productive work or production... theyre making money out of inflation! !!!!! and its killing everything else!!! thats what lve been saying for over a decade... that and tax laws which are sucking workers and small business /self employed dry!! ...add to that over population and increase in automation thus less jobs... its a recipe for disaster

[@MinkieWinkle]

Tax won't stop inflation.... Printing money causes inflation by over saturating the supply of money as a result the value of money drops. Taxes will make zero difference

[@ashsqx3246]

05thomaslj of course tax wont stop inflation lol thats so dumb. taxes NEED to be tailored to balance out the economy. Taxes are the only way to disincentivise home ownership feudalism. Taxes should reduce for workers and small business, and increase for those sitting fat on their money making more money via 'inflation'. any rental income beyond that of one or two houses per family should be taxed at 90% no threshold. so people will not make extra unethical money beyond what they need if not working. rental income from one house is sufficient for living expenses. from two houses, lavish.

[@MinkieWinkle]

@@ashsqx3246you tax rentals, they put up the rent to off set the tax, this is seen in every other industry too, you tax businesses they put up the cost of goods and services to off set the tax, so the only people that end up paying are the consumers, your plan:.... you have just created a housing and job market crisis like no other.... genius This can already be seen now today, they have recently increased regulations on landlord, more specifically, rental income, capital gains tax, higher interest rates for rental mortgages and so on. What was the result of all of that? higher rents than ever before. stupid policy that looked good to those that do not understand finance, the more money government takes the more people have to charge for products.

[@thatwill616]

£1600 a month? For part-time work?! Pretty decent wage really! Ah wait... London.

[@nobad6134]

Abdul Taha she doesn’t need a studio costing near 1066 plus. That is madness for someone of her income who can barely afford to care for a child. She should be living outside zone 1 and 2 in a spare room type situation costing max 700 a month. She can’t manage finances at all

[@MrAyuub22]

700 for a family?! In London?! must be zone 100

[@davidfernandes1608]

Move out of London...

[@thatwill616]

London costs are absolutely astronomical. I just did a RightMove search; there are literally no 2-bed rentals under £700, apart from a few "flat shares". I'd be weary of living in that sort of situation with a young child, but I guess it'd do at a pinch. But the point is, she should *not* be struggling to this extent with £1600 a month. I don't understand why and how people earning under 50k continue to live in London. Outside of London, I earn

[@thatwill616]

@truth son Stop reading the Daily Mail mate, it's not good for you.

[@sbegum246]

Childcare fees is a joke. I've worked in the benefits sections in a college and saw so many people on benefits not working being entitled to free childcare, whereas those who are working and on the borderline have to fork out a lot to pay. It's ridiculous. She's absolutely right, sometimes it pays off not to work.

[@mrbearbear83]

I've never understood why people on benefits get free childcare but working family's have to pay.

[@laurat188]

So then they’re choosing not to work 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@beikdw5762]

Childcare is always going to approximate the annual salary of a working female, that’s the trade you make, if you want to continue your career you have to pay someone the going rate to look after your kids unfortunately, and a lot of people will give up almost all their salary to do that.

[@rayclam8079]

Artificially high rent prices are the reason why people are poor. Why aren't more people advocating for rent control and a ban on foreign realestate speculation???

[@laurat188]

@@rayclam8079 they’re not artificially high

[@benking9503]

I grew up in care and was chucked out at 18 years old, went to the council to ask for a council flat so I could continue going to work and have somewhere to live, and was told to go get somebody pregnant because if I had a baby they would give me accommodation, even tho I was working at a supermarket I couldn't afford a deposit or private rental so ended up on the streets and lost my job! Took me 10 years to get my life back! And I'm still childless because I was born into the would to parents that didn't want me and raised in care and I didn't want to bring another life into the world to suffer as I have just to tick a box at the council office's!

[@yourgranma1760]

Dude social services give you a flat !! I know because I was in care . You obviously messed up your hostel areangement

[@fay-amieaspen6046]

I was working in a new job then realised during the trial period that I was pregnant, some excuse was made and I was told to leave the place of employment. I couldn't prove discrimination so I went to the Job Centre and I was actually told that I didn't need to work if I was pregnant and I thought what if I want to work or need to to earn money to work for my mental and physical well-being instead of just relying on My husband and his income ? But yes it is the way you get spoken to, have a baby be pregnant get a partner then you can have a flat. It happened with my ex, he had to say look I've a partner who's pregnant and a child with my ex so I need a flat and he got one but wouldn't as a single man if it hadn't been for part time child raising with his ex wife and having a baby with me.

[@jaynestag95]

That's what they told me.

[@nafeezabolia9724]

Wise decision.

[@nafeezabolia9724]

Wise decision.

[@riturao6565]

London is rediculously expensive, why the government is not putting Rent control??!!! Like Berlin did. The landlords impose insane prices for poor condition rooms

[@IHH_No.1]

The government depends on rich supporters and therefore is the government for rich.

[@david1731048]

Half the landlords are the politicians themselves, and their friends.

[@715michala]

There is no rent control anywhere in England rip off rent generation also agents not regulated

[@tyemust4399]

In my area rental properties are declining due to landlords selling of the properties...

[@715michala]

@@tyemust4399 yes exactly my point, not a good idea to rent in this climate, certainty in buying property in uncertain times.Landlords/ tenants both anxious at this time.

[@hearmeoutbro]

House prices and rent are way too high and people wonder why so many people are still living with their parents in their 20s and 30s.

[@joeylichty9003]

I don't live with anyone but myself, but it also depends on where and how you find a place. I scored a nice bachelor for 700 all inclusive and renovated. It's possible to find affordable places when you possess less.

[@globalist1990]

@@joeylichty9003 that’s not affordable for minimum wage earners

[@melibony]

@@joeylichty9003 if you earn £1200, £700 for rent is impossible, leaves me with £500 a month.

[@neilshinde8641]

​@@melibony ​ 700£ IS expensive, unless you stay in London. I stay in Germany so I don't know the idea though. £1200 is your part time salary or full time?

[@melibony]

@@neilshinde8641 part time salary, trust me 700 is not expensive for a flat. I dont live in london, my cousin does and rents a room, just a room in a house with private bathroom for £1000. I rent a flat with all utilities outside london for £700 and thats normal prices here.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

if you work hard-enough you may just end-up in a grave before reaching state-pension age ...thus saving the state more money.

[@juliehornsby9671]

Who can pay for a grave these days - direct cremation is the most people can afford !

[@ThePersian61]

Which is why the government put the pensionable age up (used to be 60 for women & 65 for men). They hope you will drop dead before they have to pay you a state pension.

[@715michala]

Umm I know, you can work yourself to death , an early death caused by stress related illness !!! Its sad to die just before you receive your state pension esp if you have no private pension or any savings.ppl are so sad, have sad brief lives , working to care for folk then forgotten in a blink of an eye. Without any thanks or bonus, but we always bow down to the great industrialists like Richard Arkwright , when really it was early exploitation even tho he did built ' good homes' for his employers, but everyone forgets the ppl who worked for him, who made him wealthy .Its like today everyone thinks these ppl are marvellous like Richard Branson but his employees will be forgotten in time.its such a waste of a life, do what u can save money and move forward move out of London or the UK if you feel that's the right choice for you.Life's too short.don't dwell on the past as well as that can be counter productive and prevent you living the dream.good luck., god bless.:)

[@WorkingClassBrit]

The cost of living is an absolute disgrace. I remember when I was 15 earning my £30 a week for working 8 hours over Saturday and Sunday in a cafe' washing the dishes, spending my earnings on whatever I wanted. Now I work 20 hours in a shop and I can't afford to rent anywhere. "Why don't you get a full-time job in a shop," said the man from the job center. I told him if he could find me a full-time job in the area I would be absolutely over the moon, he could not find anything. The government do not understand the fact that people wan't to work and pay our own way but the jobs have to be there and the income has to be there.

[@yaxifromeast1989]

Rip those golden years.. 1990 was better in London when semi detached house was just around 50 grand pounds

[@chrisbromley3268]

This sounds like a you probelm to me, not a government probelm.

[@ste6826]

Maybe start your own business, start with a small stall and work up to a large company?

[@pulse4503]

How bout moving to a less expensive city, say, Birmingham? 😊

[@teesman61]

Don't expect scumbags to give you a positive reply.

[@blueotter5990]

There also needs to be action against payday loan companies charging obscene interest rates which push desperate people into further poverty and fuel homelessness.

[@stevenhull5025]

If one cannot afford to repay a payday loan why take one out.

[@wontbefooledagain9400]

@@stevenhull5025 the only people who get pay loan are desperate and can hardly ever pay back with the obscene interest rates.

[@chillout1109]

Taking action against payday companies is not a solution. The government should be helping people such that they don't ever need to go to the payday loan sharks in the first place. People take out payday loans when they've run out options.

[@carolinegathercole8473]

They should be abolished

[@annebuckley3474]

Some people don’t have a choice never judge someone else

[@bobevo2000]

The biggest problem is private renting just so expensive ( affordable housing is what everybody needs ) over half your monthly earnings on rent alone so sad.

[@nikkic83]

bobevo2000 there should be no need for so called affordable housing.

[@romeorock2]

@@nikkic83 so in the next 50 Years watch what happens this country will face a crisis like never before , what do you think will happen to pensioners that could never get on the housing ladder

[@josephstalin7389]

So more tax them

[@romeorock2]

@@josephstalin7389 I don’t understand your reply ? Explain ?

[@romeorock2]

@@josephstalin7389 if your referring to building affordable housing then yes it needs more tax in the way your used to but there is time for change and there are ways to do this with out putting the burden on the common worker who pays taxes

[@paulhoskin3286]

I work 50 hours a week and at the end of the month I have about £300 left after paying essentials.you manage to get some money and then bham.something happens.ie car.boiler. drains etc and then your broke again LIFES A NIGHTMARE

[@AH-hz5xc]

Tell me about it. Car drains money. Then there's debt.

[@shawnpenn]

Claim from "broke" benefit mate !

[@Soundpj]

Paul I always worked hard too. You work hard. Never unemployed but hard to get high standard of living.

[@randomunboxings6653]

Don't have a car fool Or better sell that and get a ev or Tesla low Maintenance And use more and more public transport

[@AH-hz5xc]

Job = Just over broke.

[@ritap5053]

It's really difficult. I was living in a one bed lovely apartment for 780 per month. Working two jobs my main one was about 1500 per month. I was so stressed sometimes and very very tired from working both jobs and coming home 10.30 at night and waking up 5.30 to commute into the city. So I left the UK went to Greece and was extremely lucky and blessed to be able to work in a gym and from there I moved on to renting my own space in a small gym with plenty of clients. No stress. My apartment is 250 per month with two bedrooms, I'm not rich and never will be but I'm not stressed out and in the verge anymore. I manage my own hours and try to enjoy life a bit more. I come to visit family and that's it. It's not for everyone of course but it was my ticket out. I thought I was gonna die poor and alone, a really bad time in my life so I can understand very much. Now at least I have a social life.

[@noramaddy4409]

and in Greece the sun shines. It`s just a bonus. Sunshine is a rare gift here in Germany, people work non stop for a survivers wage and barely see sunlight to strengthen their poor health. I wonder why on earth people stay here under such miserable wages and in the dark!!!

[@backyardgrillmaster2910]

Your one of the lucky one who came to the realization you may have to leave what you know to have a better life. Good for you and I hope you all the best. Sometimes to be the best you , you have to move from what your comfortable with everybody has to go find their Legend that's a reference from a book The Alchemist

[@davidtarbuck4166]

Well done for making a change and not being a victim

[@dandan3045]

I can 100% relate to this, used to get up 4am to start shifts at 6am and get home late. I was earning around the same amount as you mentioned. Hardly had a social life and stress levels high. Left for Japan in 2011. Never looked back. I worked hard here and it paid off, where I worked hard in the UK only to keep living month to month. I would never have been able to start my own family if I didn’t leave.

[@marviwilson1853]

You can buy flats in many parts of the UK for around £50,000. Why are you paying £780/month rent when you have these cheaper and better options.

[@mickpeacher5162]

There used to be a time when a man could work and support his family!

[@finehomemadewine]

The whole family too!

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Get sentiment ,but was there ,there has always been poverty ,tbf though if people work they should be able to support a family ,and more and more this is not the norm ,accom being probably no1 problem

[@ismailah4576]

Then all the women left their husbands for feminism.

[@wennw2711]

Yeah, when UK sucks out money from all its colonies. Sorry it does not happen nowadays.

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

There had always been poverty ,does not make it correct though

[@chicagogyrl7849]

This woman needs to get money from her kid's father!!! Never any mention of the father's responsibility in these poverty stories!!!

[@buthlezi3405]

What if he is a deadbeat dad ?

[@lisawakelam8189]

@@buthlezi3405 the get the guy neutered

[@nothanks1239]

@installtekz Jesus christ, courts don't deny the dad rights to his child unless there is a good reason too.

[@honkyvanwildebeest8926]

@@lisawakelam8189 or take precautions. Are you unable to look after your own interests? Then you should be on the pill and should need a licence to reproduce. Your body your choice, condemns a child to a life you decided to fucking give it while knowing you couldn't even support it from day one. Selfish or fucken what???

[@slydoll7877]

And if he won't give it? What then?

[@woodlandbiker]

When an employer is paying low he is using the system to make up your wages in benefits. No one should work full time and still have to claim benefits to get by. You should be paid a living wage. That includes enough for your rent/mortgage, bills, food, clothing and transport and even enough to put some aside for unforseen things. If your working full-time and still can't make ends meet it just sucks the life out of you.

[@scifirealism5943]

Correct.

[@july99887766]

Depends on so many factor..what is rent which he/she can afford.. you cannot have a house with garten which has rent of almost 2k monthly if you on average salary..

[@woodlandbiker]

@@july99887766 the basic things you need to survive. A roof over your head, food enough for you to survive and work, clothing, gas and electricity, transport ect , even a basic holiday to get away from the drudge of life. If your working full time your wage should be able to cover these basic things without having to claim benefits on top. If you still need to claim benefits the job is underpaid and the employer is expecting the system to top you up to enable you to survive. I know and worked for a huge retail chain store that actually had an advisor that would help you to make benefit claims to subsidies the wages they paid.

[@scifirealism5943]

@@woodlandbiker that's messed up.

[@july99887766]

@@woodlandbiker I understand people who are under paid.. then they learn to lead a life within means.. as I said I know a lot of people drawing very good salary but cramped in apartment without balcony and no holidays.. so if they can adjust the others also should

[@6668528]

No need to be rude but let's be realistic. Why would you rent in London if you are poor? There was a time I wanted to live in London but I realised I simply could not afford it.

[@Asisvenia]

There is a big difference between living in the London and in the North of the England, right? Rents, prices etc.. should be cheaper in the North. (I've never been in the UK before)

[@beckymoody2167]

No need to be rude but she probably lived there all her life and a single mother needs a support network ie. Her family and friends

[@fionagregory8078]

move outside London. Up north or Scotland.

[@fionagregory8078]

@@Asisvenia yes north is cheaper

[@dridontcare]

100% its fucking stupid

[@rogersimpson8871]

It's so sad but it is becoming a luxury to be able to afford and have children.

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

The stork is the bird of war.

[@jacwindsor5552]

It is not necessary to have kids. LIfe is so much better without them.

[@beaulieuc8910]

it is great not to have kids, less stress, cheaper life and happier.kids have always been an expesive hobby

[@Jonnyicey]

​@@beaulieuc8910 keep telling yourself that 🤣

[@Jonnyicey]

@IBSSnapey well it's the easier decision

[@mollys6314]

This has really made me rethink my life, I’m a teenager and live with my parents, we are a middle class family, me and my sibling have our own room but not the biggest house, it’s a 3 bedroom house with 2 bathrooms, a medium sized house, I’m in a family of 4 and we all have nice phones and spend £300 on shopping every week and we don’t live on benefits. I’ve grown up going to public schools but there really good ones, I always thought we were quite poor compared to all my other friends because there houses had 5 bedrooms with BMW’s and stuff like that. But watching these have really really made me grateful for everything I have. Also how much better off my family really has it. Before I found these videos I was just complaining about how my parents can’t afford these mansions and Mercedes but now I am so so so so grateful. If your wishing for a massive house or something, think about it , do you really need it or is it more of a want? :(

[@mogznwaz]

Good for you. It should also impress on you the importance of a. Living within your means b. Not having babies because it's 'romantic' c. Saving what you can when you can d. Making sensible choices about where you live and what jobs you can do I have a friend who is insanely narcissistic. She gave up an ok job in TV to go travelling in Africa to 'find herself', got back, no work in TV, got a job as a barmaid and lives with her mum rent free. Saved up some money and decided instead of getting her own place she wanted to go travelling again to find herself some more. Is now pushing 50 and still acts like a student. To the point she still chases 25 yo surfer dudes and wonders why she can't find a decent guy. She fell badly in love with a guy half her age who slept with her a couple of times and decided she was nuts but she obsesses over him. It's what I would call perpetual infantilism. Don't be like her.

[@fredgalaxy7632]

Stay with your parents. Get a part time job and continue studying for a degree. Build your experience during your early 20s whilst staying at home with parents. Save up money, help out with bills every now and then. Once you hit 27-28 you should have a lot of savings. And at that point in life you should decide on your long term ambitions and let them be concrete decisions. Kids are not an option given the current events.

[@fay-amieaspen6046]

Exactly. I've never had what You've had. I've had Council Housing single mom not being able to get enough work hours so getting benefits, and having 3 kids to look after would have been 4 but my brother died through neglect. I could have too but let's not go there. I was raised by my grandparents for most of my life birth- 20's that is, until I was kicked out to fend for myself but from age 9-21 I would say living with them full-time, that we were better off financially living in a very small 3 bedroom house, ex Council property bought, with 2 cars in the household, my grandmother a full-time housewife and grandmother and my grandfather working long shifts for Land Rover.

[@beaulieuc8910]

same here but things can change over night say ill health etc. I think always keep some money for a rainy day, have less stuff and if or when things do get difficult, you have some money when i was younger I don't think I appreciated things, I had everything I needed 'including a pony'. Now I choose to live in a tiny house ie less complicated no pets, less expenses, no kids, less stress and I lead a good stable life, which is so important in these crazy times

[@beaulieuc8910]

well said, and buy your own house in your own name @@mogznwaz

[@vickythecat1741]

I feel for those watching this from another developed country, such as the USA, who work 70+ hours a week and barely get by, with no help whatsoever from the government or any charities. Building communities and keeping an eye on each other, and sharing our love, kindness and wealth is what makes a community strong. This also starts with making basic rights affordable = housing, food and health care.

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

🎯❗️Very well said, Vicky. ♥️😘

[@michaelmullin7941]

There are no constitutional rights to housing, food, and health care. Read the document, dummy.

[@cherylcampbell7495]

I live in the USA and people get welfare, ssi pmts..disability. Food stamps etc. one of the main reasons we’re in trouble. Too many free handouts. Our government wants everyone to be dumb downed and independent on the government. Now it’s a free for all at our borders. The USA is a mess and we the people did not vote for this current administration. All lies.

[@msoda8516]

Sadly millions are the working poor and it’s leading to a lot of the anger we see today. Sadly it’s easier to believe the lie that all poor people are lazy when the truth of the matter is most poor people work very hard.

[@stevebren88]

All the problems in this videos seem to be down to 1. Having kids when you can't afford to have them. 2. Insanely high property prices. 3 Only working 16 hours a week!

[@mogznwaz]

Exactly. But no, it's always someone else's fault!!'

[@majdavojnikovic]

It is very cruel to say "having children when you can't afford it". Children are not commodity, it is not a car or house or such. It is a human right to have children, only fascists deny people ( group of choice, for instance poor people :)) that right. Children are not there only for their parents, but for society as well. If there are no children, if only those "who can afford them" have them, the society is going to die out. You are going to be old and needy, naturally, who is going to take care of you? Who is going to keep the economy go on? It is not only cruel, it is shortsighted. Society has to invest in its children. This capitalistic wiev where everything has a pricetag is a true horror.

[@stevebren88]

@@majdavojnikovic As a society it maybe true to promote having children, if we weren't already massively overly populated. It is completely within someone basics human rights to not work to feed someone else's children. Especially if that person has decided to wait responsibility to a point when they can afford to appropriately do so. You end up in a situation where responsible people can't have kids because they are paying for those irresponsible parent's to have their 10th kid. I am for a minimum wage that covers a child or 2. We have this already. That give people the right for a child. But these people have 5+ children. They are not doing it out of any societal obligations, this isn't post WW2. They are doing it because of the pleasure it gives them and knowing that someone else will pick up the bill for everything. No one is going to go around forcing sterilisation, but we have to recognise that we have a limited amount of resource available for charity. Raising a child to the level we want costs £100,000s if not millions. With health care, food, education etc. Why should 1 family take up 10s of millions of pounds. That is going to have to be taken from someone else. If a 5th or 6th child, that hasn't been budgeted for, is forced into a smaller home or has less stuff. That isn't societies fault. I wouldn't mind a kid, but I want one when I am in a very strong financial position. I wouldn't have one expecting everyone else to pay for it. I suppose that's my morals against yours. I believe its the right thing to take care of yourself and your family.

[@john41690]

@@majdavojnikovic It is very cruel to bring a life into this world when you sacrifice their nutrition and not giving them the time of day. The decision to have children is a CHOICE. A responsible adult would plan his/her life to see if they can afford having kids BEFORE anything else. Because a responsible adult would care and love their children enough to make sure they have all that they need to survive and have a future. It is very cruel to BURDEN your kids when you are old and needy. A responsible adult would plan for retirement. Only a SELFISH person would not even think about their child's predicament and only think about "I have a right to have children, who cares if we all suffer because I didn't plan it financially."

[@majdavojnikovic]

@@john41690 all that is fine and neat - in a laboratory. Life is not like that. People are not like that.

[@cherrypie660]

It's not true my son worked his butt off and still couldn't make ends meet in fact was worse off..

[@emmadee5181]

You work like a pig and still no money!

[@emmadee5181]

@Kuchi Kopi hahahahaha is that what you do!

[@WhatChaMaCalum]

@sonia achieng I like being white it's pretty awesome.

He likely screwed up in high School, didn't get a real skill, and will pay for it his entire life. A good parent would have guided their competent kid into a better skill which pays much higher wages.

[@schatzeeone6230]

Ashok Hegde It’s not always that easy when our ridiculous society keeps telling kids they should do what they love, and that they can be anything they want to be. That’s complete bullshit. They spend their childhood thinking they’re all going to be football players and pop stars, so they don’t need to pay attention in math class. Then they go off to universities and get useless degrees in drama or pre-Elizabethan literature because that’s now what they “love”. They’ll spend the rest of their lives making coffee at Starbucks complaining about their student debt, wondering why they can’t buy a house like their electrician dad and nurse mom did at their age.

[@robgoren8628]

UK, Canada, U.S. This is the norm now for anyone who gets sucked into the wage slave economy of the big corporations. And cities compete for Amazon fulfillment centres. Why? So they can build their supply of working homeless?

[@morse1883]

Betrayal of our nurses: Thousands have been forced to use food banks in the past year because they cannot afford to eat. Out of more than the 1,000 nurses surveyed, 38% struggle to buy food. Over half have less than £500 across their current and saving accounts As they struggle to make ends meet, 55% have considered quitting: dailym.ai/2NvLqRT

[@morse1883]

April 2017 to March 2018 saw food-bank usage rise by 13 percent in the UK - the fastest ever rate of growth - according to umbrella organisation The Trussell Trust, which runs 400 food banks across the country. "This is primarily due to the roll out of Universal Credit and the effects it's had on people's lives," explains 38-year-old Louisa Haye, The Hub's manager. "I blame the government entirely as they are cheating the destitute, pushing people into debt." The government's switch from weekly Jobseekers Allowance (JSA) payments to a monthly Universal Credit sum has come under fire. Reports cite losses of income and arbitrary non-payments, leaving people unable to eat or pay bills. Some say that they have been sent pre-emptive eviction letters ahead of rollouts: bit.ly/2tq6ayR

Robgoren This is what happens when you screw up in school

[@schmootheonly]

@ glad you were such a perfect child, other countries don't let their citizens fall into this kind of poverty and they still thrive

[@ellismeah179]

having population nearing 7omillion and rising rapidly, on a tiny island, difficult to sustain

[@emmamacdonald82]

My husband worked in London for 8 months and had to pay £800 for one bedroom in a five bedroom crappy home with thin walls, located in a poor, shitty neighbourhood. The kind of neighbourhood where he left his bike out on his porch for 5 minutes and returned to have it been stolen, then 3 hours later when taking out the trash, saw the thief sitting on my husband’s bike only meters from where it was stolen, and when my husband yelled at him and ran after him in his slippers, the thief fell of the bike and then ran away instead of using the bike to escape. He regrets now not spending more, but he wanted to save part of his income. It ended up being the worse few months of his life and the experience made him swear he would never visit the city ever again. We now live in Germany in a beautiful one bedroom flat in a great neighbourhood only a 20 walk from the downtown, and we pay only €400 (about £350) a month. Of course, we are in a small city of only about 300,000 people, but even Berlin’s rents never get to those outrageous prices. Even in Toronto, Canada, where I’m from, £800 can get you decent bachelor’s apartment in a location near a subway station. And Toronto’s rents are also overpriced, in my opinion, requiring about half of the inhabitants to spend half their income or more on housing, which is one of the ways in which poverty is measured. In London, it must be a high majority of inhabitants who need to spend more than half their income on housing, which is insane. High levels of working poverty are common in all places where people’s basic needs, like housing and food, are not available at affordable prices. People should only have to spend, at most, 30% of their income on housing. As soon as a majority of people are unavailable to do so the government has got to step in and start creating rent controls. Everyone deserves a home to live in, whether employed or not, but imagine struggling to afford one while working? It’s just a disaster.

[@sarahmc8309]

Ireland is the same !!! 2 bed is now 2k a month .I’m a working single parent in social care and after paying €500 rent a week , buses , eletricity , prepay phone and bit of food there’s no money left .I’m deaf also but lucky I work in deaf sector in social care but it was love to go cheaper there’s no work for me and live in even more poverty .

[@jennyfinck7779]

It's not true. In Berlin the rent raised that last couple of years dramatically. For a three bedroom we hat to pay 1800 Euro and this was not in Prenzlauer Berg or Mitte or Friedrichshain. The same rent went up when we left 2019 for 2000 Euro for the next tenants. You can't compare a village with a town and south with north. You also can find houses in north England for 300-400 pounds to rent, but it's definitely not a big city or with good public transportation.

[@therepublic7708]

Rent control it should be social housing

[@sloeberdoet]

@@sarahmc8309 500 euro rent is not a high rent.

[@MrGoulden]

All thanks to minimum wage lowering what were good paid jobs The rich get richer the poor get poorer

[@AJ-mb7ng]

Cry me a river 😢

[@pattyalzawara2267]

I work 40 hours a week full time but I live in my car because I can’t afford rent it’s ridiculously high

[@arnolddavies6734]

Sorry to hear that. It’s a terrible situation. Have you ever considered emigrating for a better quality of living? I am sure you would love our lifestyle in Australia.

[@Xsouplaxy]

@@arnolddavies6734 I like to hear more about job opportunities and what’s the average earning for low level job and the average rent over there

[@Tommyleini]

​@@arnolddavies6734 travel cost is an issue. if someone gave £5000 to Patty to be able to travel and move to Australia, maybe they would. Many people stay where they are because moving is so expensive

[@beaulieuc8910]

there are homeless people there @@arnolddavies6734

[@MultiPurplemist]

I don't think I ever realised until now about how lucky I was growing up in the 90s with my nan and grandad being the support for my mum and step every time they ran of money. Now i have savings and write all my bills down and work out what I'm spending each month to the penny and even write meals for the week and what I'll need in for those meals. Although being better off as an adult it's like my mind is always saying be careful.

[@sandrafinbar]

Where are all the dads! Off producing more kids ? Are none of the men helping to look after their kids ?

[@439bananas]

Completely agree, but the state, even the courts are useless at making feckless fathers pay.

[@georgesorosghost7244]

A lot don't know they are fathers, as the mothers didn't know who he was, other women got pregnant by a man and had a baby from that pregnancy despite the fact they were not in a relationship and he showed no signs of being able to finance a child.

[@emjackson2289]

Quite probably paying but paying cash so the Benefits Agencies don't see it. Very common because there is no legal liability to do child support via Government services.

[@abbeylinefortheexit8933]

Nardjarai Paunussa Failed troll.

[@kille1killa185]

No they rather drink /smoke their lives away, its too hard for them to financially help their family, they didn't realize until after the mums were pregnant

[@BlanceDevereaux]

That woman in London getting all that taxpayer money every month needs to move. London is ridiculously expensive. People like myself have moved to another continent for a better life - she can move 150 miles away with far fewer expenses and a better quality of life.

[@lbunnygordon1133]

BlancheDevereaux Where are the jobs the French are here alongwith millions of Greeks and Spanish looking for work

[@accountholder8884]

Move where and how? Moving can cost thousands, move to where and pay that rent with what? Unless you are telling me that moving is now free. Excellent news. Perhaps she would love to move but just can't.

[@startrill3603]

BlancheDevereaux where did you move to?

[@llVIU]

I travel 4 hours a day to work, I work 5-7 days a week, I live in a cheap small studio outside London, I don't have a kid and I don't beg for government handouts. But she knows how to victimise herself. She's not an important business woman yet feels the need to live in London. London is a business center, not a place for lazy people who don't want to work like her

[@startrill3603]

llVIU 4 hours a day!

[@Aprilforevergreen]

Wages are low, rents and mortgages high. It's so disheartening to be working and not be able to live decently, with dignity.

[@igorknown8608]

how people are starved out in the uk is heartbreaking. their life is stolen from them with this austerity. this is a crime

[@janetschwartz1790]

Austerity ! There was no austerity ..... This government lied about austerity and the billions that they have wasted is criminal. They are deliberately keeping people in poverty . Universal credit was supposed to be set up to stop fraudulent claims for a start off and now it turns out that criminal gangs have been making bogus claims somehow and getting away with it..... It's all a big con. When the covid top up was removed and UC claimants were told you could just work a couple of hours more per week is a case in point! It would take a lot more than a coup!e of hours a week to get that back but absolutely no mention of how sick and disabled people could find a way of getting that £20.00 back when they were not able to work. Im on sick and haven't been able to heat my house for three years!

[@neilshinde8641]

@@janetschwartz1790 Their colonies suffered similarly under their rule. Seems like it's all getting backfired now.

[@janetschwartz1790]

@@neilshinde8641what happened in the Colonies had nothing to do with the vast amount of people in the UK. There was poverty here at that time too so to wish that sort of life on us now is ridiculous. This government that we have now are the very same sort of people who would have relished in the slave trade and I bet a few of them would like to bring it back. There are plenty of people in the UK who didn't like what happened in the Colonies so don't want to inflict misery on those whom were and are powerless to do anything about it .

[@stargazingdaydreamer]

@@neilshinde8641 I feel sad for any human suffering. My great grandmother was the only one left living after the rest of her family, mother father and six siblings were PURPOSELY starved to death via the Irish 'famine' and I still have a letter via a local landed gentry ( land robbing Brit) expressing his delight at their deaths because it cleared the way for his dairy farm. Many 'ordinary' Brits at the time also shared this view and often still do. My brother went to London in the 80s and was still seeing signs, No black, no dogs, no Irish. From landed cheiftan to absolute paupers living in Dublin tenements right up to thr 1920s - many children dying and starving right up to the establishment of the free state, there was NO sympathy for my people. It's gone full circle and I am a relatively wealthy person with a decent property portfolio but I will always try my best to help other people who are poor and suffering and to be kind but even as late as four years ago, just prior to covid, I met up with a friend in London and was met with racism. It's sad to see their government causing such suffering and worse, the little kids in poverty. It's disgusting but their elite are scum and always have been. Only now it's turned inwards. A person who works should have access to a reasonable income. That said, everywhere the Brits went, they destroyed fair wage and created an underclass. I guess they have nobody else to destroy but their own people. Very sad

[@dean9235]

It's only a crime if the government says it's a crime.

[@richardw7959]

End zero hours and build Council Houses. The way to incentivise work is to create meaningful jobs with the chance to progress and develop.

[@paulbutler2383]

cap rent on properties, and remove families earning over 70k from council houses

[@jimsy5530]

But with what money? Successive regimes have near-bankrupted the country, and there's going to be a period of wilderness after the UK leaves the EU.

[@martaranson5199]

Richard Weaver Thst would certainly help get more houses built get zero hours contracts gone but people should also be responsible and not have children if they can’t afford them The only reason why they may be staying in work is they can’t afford to be without money again for months on end it’s disgraceful

[@peterneijs387]

RW4PM

[@martaranson5199]

Ashok Hegde No council housing should be for those British Citizenswho can not afford to buy. Or buy at present once the household income goes up they should be made to either buy privately or rent privately Council homes should never have been sold off.

[@iainneville7137]

I have been in relatively low paid employment for the majority of my life despite the long and unsociable hours and the hard work I put in. I am now 52 years of age. When the Government decided to introduce the National Minimum wage, not only did it ensure that no-one would earn bellow the stated figure, it also, unfortunately, gave every employer the 'right' not to have to pay a penny over this amount, which, lets be honest, has never been suficient since it was introduced. For many people they will not recieve a pay increase until the Government enforces one. Now, the most worrying trend for many is that when we do get a pay rise, it is insuficient next to the constantly rising rate of inflation meaning many of us are sliding slowly but surely into ever poorer circumstances. A pay rise in this day and age would appear to be nothing more than a myth to try and fool us all. Quite frankly, I despair of the modern predicament so many working people are in. Let us never forget that we are the backbone of our Nation and we all, no matter what we do, deserve a good standard of living, free of financial worry and with a future to look forward to. Is that too much to ask?

[@israelphoenix]

My Mom left a violently abusive husband. She worked three and four jobs to raise six kids by herself. She had Social Security from her deceased first husband which paid the mortgage. The older kids helped with the younger. We are all college educated. However, homes are not as expensive here in the U.S.

[@beaulieuc8910]

why did she keep having kids with an abusive man, and it is unfair for the older kids to parent the smaller kids

[@phina8392]

And you do overtime and find out you have done 2 extra shifts for free, thanks to the tax man.

[@takitobutface6805]

yeah stupid govt, keeps increasing tax for this parasites benefits people

[@robmontier639]

Not so because you pay a %age of that income.

[@equalitypeace1695]

£2000 a month and people are still struggling. That is so shocking

[@MGTOW_HELLRAISER]

😂

[@E-D-E2704]

She has £1600 a month fair enough but I work 40 hours a week minimum and take home about £1200 a month a day I have to pay rent..car..food..dental...petrol..gas..water..electric. .etc.etc

[@smartiepancake]

Henry George explained this fully in 1879 - the problem can (only) be fixed by shifting taxes from wages and commerce onto land values. Everyone understood this in 1910. Yet no one wants to talk about it today.

D Bruce the rich would just ditch land in any nation that made it onerous to own

[@smartiepancake]

@@jamiewalkerdine3705 It would raise demand for workers, effectively ending unemployment. Yes, its a true blue miracle, and you've stumbled across it.

[@david1731048]

I have friends who work full time and haven't had kids yet because they can't afford to. Why should they pay for those who haven't bothered to plan as sensibly?

[@juliantheapostate8295]

A very good question

[@rainynight8385]

Well not all people didnt plan. Some were just hit with an illness and was let off work thats why they got left behind on bills and thats where the debts rack up and also the eviction notices.

[@david1731048]

@@rainynight8385 If going off work with an illness would financially cripple you, take out critical illness insurance.

[@rainynight8385]

@@david1731048 @David I meant unexpected illness developments or those in accidents that happen suddenly. How about those living paycheck to paycheck and couldnt save because of inflation and got laid off because of the pandemic?

[@igvc1876]

@@rainynight8385 some yes, but my feeling is that that's the minority. The majority decided to have a baby while working minimal wage jobs with barely enough to feed themselves. That's irresponsible

[@wendyjane6634]

I live alone I work 44 hrs a week paid 48 hrs on site it’s a long week and I collect my pay check just keeps the roof over my head :( just have my pride of being independent on no handouts but it’s a struggle

[@janejan9728]

The difference between you and these people is that you are hard working so you're going to be a successful person with better income in the future, and they will remain exactly where they are for the rest of their lives. 90% of them have also doomed their children to the same fate. Stick through it, it gets so much better! You have a future. They don't.

[@wendyjane6634]

Thx Jane I’m trying xx

[@sarmadghafoor1484]

Wendy Knox can’t you save money by going out of London?

[@wendyjane6634]

Sarmad Ghafoor I would but I live alone my friends work family are in London I feel safe where I know!!!

[@lbunnygordon1133]

Sarmad Ghafoor The situation is even worse outside London

[@edmundprice5276]

Wage Subsidies are needed, anyone earning less than £20,000 should be tax exempt, no national insurance, no council tax, nothing.

[@melanieviselli9706]

Same thing here in the US. Jobs will give you just enough hours or pay you just enough that if you do still need some help from like food stamps or whatever you will only qualify for the bare minimum of benefits that you can apply for.

[@macalcatzipenervi]

rich people who rule the world want most of us to be poor. very simple. when very poor,you have no choices. no vice, no courage to attack their greed.

[@christianmills7728]

High rent and low pay. Employers just don't want to pay and simply don't care.

[@nate13012]

Employers shouldnt be paying more than what you are worth. They are not responsible for taking care of your family.

[@abbeylinefortheexit8933]

nathan9065717 They should be responsible for paying someone a livable wage for full time work. Even for an unskilled job. It’s horrific to provide anything less.

[@johnvonhorn2942]

Sounds good but if a few employers start paying more than many won't and those that do will go out of business.

[@llVIU]

they do it because they can and... they do it because they can. The fact is that over time, our fathers and grandfathers worked and saved up money to buy land and homes. More people got born, the houses got either transferred or kept. You can make more humans but you can't make more land. So the prices increased and they will keep increasing. Also, the smart people worked hard and invested in homes. The idiot people like (probably) your parents used up the money to ''live life'' and went traveling, leaving you completely fucked. They didn't leave you a home and they didn't focus on giving you a good education. You think employers ''don't want to pay''? They will pay the lowest amount that they can. Demand vs supply. You are not in demand because your skills are worthless, you have no education. You think you wouldn't get very good money if you were a brain surgeon, a good judge/prosecutor, a succesful businessman etc? Please take a look in the mirror. CV library is filled with jobs. Jobs are not charities, it's competition. Stop victimising yourself.

[@nate13012]

@Marco No, the worker is worth what the market dictates, which is what they get paid for in most cases.

[@realtruth3731]

Companies pay the CEOs MILLIONS but refuse to pay the people actually doing the work a liveable wage! Shame!

[@HA05GER]

The system sucks im currently out of work due to disability and the said thing is im better off. The system doesn't work for a start im not having to spend £200+ a month on fuel i dont need food at work im not having to spend money on maintaining a car. I dont need work uniform like work boots i had to pay for prescriptions or dental. The whole system sucks i feel for people on lower incomes i worked in a supermarket on £11.50 an hour and now i dont have to pay for chikdcare and the lunch for kids at childcare. Ok i dont have alot of money im very lucky to have a council property so my housing isnt too bad. Imagine having a mortgage and two people on say £10 an hour it just isnt possible. It wasnt like this when i was a kid in 90s my dad worked in a factory and mum was at home with me and my sister they had a mortgage a car we never went without on a pretty average wage.

[@helpmeImbeing]

I wish I could work 16 hours a week and afford a studio flat in London. She obviously could move to a cheaper area.

[@chloep8808]

But what if her job restricts her. Factor in the costs of commuting in this.. childcare costs are insane!

[@shawnpenn]

Well said these are not poor people they are lazzyyy.... bumbs

[@chloep8808]

@@shawnpenn I hope you don’t find yourself in a similar situation like thus Shawn

[@shawnpenn]

@@chloep8808 I did once long long time ago so I shifted to another location for more hours of work that got me full time wage and was able to sustain without any issues. Its all about will to work, will to learn, will to adapt to change This is what your employers are wanting to see in You everything else comes later !

[@tedfash1332]

Can I ask what sector your in?

[@cherylbois606]

take the money from the queen and give to the poor

[@0xstev3]

The Queen is making Britain a profit overall, I believe. So that'd be stupid.

[@ramicollo]

@@0xstev3 what are you, her accountant?

[@0xstev3]

@@ramicollo It's an important thing to take into consideration, no? This dickhead is considering destroying a profitable venture because of his feels...

[@mossboy7668]

Ok STEVEN! You pay and keep your queen, pay for the weddings, the fancy dinners, and everything else she and her family take from the State! Do you honestly think she even knows you exist? Your just a pleb to her, one of the great unwashed, IDIOT

[@kille1killa185]

@@mossboy7668 😂😂😂 tell em george!

[@vanessawilliams4432]

I can't understand how a person whose well off can say what's good for someone who knows what struggle is?!

[@nativetexanful]

The way this world is, I can't believe people are still bringing children into it. This world is only getting worse, and will probably never get any better. Children growing up today will never know the good life. All they'll ever know is struggle for survival.

[@dawnfinch8232]

Yes I agree my son and his wife have agreed not to have children because the world is in such a mess

[@matthewryan663]

That’s why I won’t have a family .. the cons outweigh the pros imo

[@nativetexanful]

This message is also for Dawn Finch. Maybe if the world's population were greatly reduced everything would improve. But I think the best route is for people to stop reproducing so the human species goes extinct.

[@timpearce3314]

I agree!, my parents brought me up beleiving that "if you can,t afford it don,t have it" so as soon as I could I had a vascectomy at 31 years of age ,and never had children! now 66 and retired I live on my own ,am very happy, I,m on a state pension,and rent my own flat, own a small car, and never worry about debt! back then, £90 for the "operation" was the best debt busting decision I ever made! !!....

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

Good, it is the greatest crime…..to have children.

[@shamanahaboolist]

As executives and shareholders take more and more, there's less for the people who actually earn the profit.

shamanahaboolist the people don’t actually earn the profit. If they did, why would they need the executives ? There are countless unemployed out there - go help them earn profits

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

Earn the profit? By doing an easy monotonous repetitive job that doesn’t require any thought or skills and that anyone can do? The people who earn the profit are the thinkers, the risk takers, those who stump up the cash, invest, buy, sell, plan, sacrifice, set up tax payments, pension schemes and adhere to health and safety laws. Those with skills, knowledge and drive. Those who get stuck in and work long hours to make the business succeed. Not the minimum wage employees.

[@bt3743]

@@HumansAreShitFactories ok if its so easy you do the work then. The rest of us can head down the pub

[@carlosenriquez2092]

I mean no disrespect when I say this. I used to have this idea in my head of europeans living well with education that far exceeded we americans. I often wondered what was wrong with the US. Stories like this sadden me greatly, but what's worse is realizing how equally hard life is for all of us no matter where in the world we find ourselves.

[@manchestertart5614]

Thank goodness we have the NHS

[@thejaramogi1]

@@manchestertart5614 But right now, conservatives are aiming to privatize the NHS in the American kinda ways, Most people vote for the promises that are never kept and made to be afraid of the foreigners taking their jobs and benefits.

[@thejaramogi1]

The rest of the EU is in a socialized kind of situation, and this is balanced through fair taxation according to income to support the wellbeing of our citizens. Single parents, children, and the elderly all need our support. A healthy society should be investing in the welfare of its children, no matter what kind of situation they happen to be in.

[@pulse4503]

@@manchestertart5614 you can say that again! :=), free healthcare is a blessing

[@pulse4503]

I guess you Americans can land a minimun wage job very easily, or even one with a decent wage, the US really has zillions of openings, no?

[@mimialacarpediem]

higher living costs, less social and affordable housing, low wages, zero hour contracts, and most importantly an austerity government that creates policies and "solutions" that are indirectly meant to make the rich richer and the poor poorer

[@compassion333]

Childcare is so expensive 😞

[@llVIU]

then don't have a child.

[@heliotropezzz333]

@@llVIU Then we will need more immigration in order to have a generation to pay tax for our services and old age pensions. I expect that when she had a child she thought they would raise it as a couple, but something went wrong in the relationship. Perhaps he just left her.

[@llVIU]

@Reece Mehmet blame women. See? I can be a sexist dumbass too @Helen Trope joke's on you, I left england permanently. Go pay the taxes yourself. Also I strongly suggest you don't even bother generalising them, just ask her why she's a single mom then ask the father. Hear both sides of the story, then judge for yourself. Funniest story I heard, one of them was a single mom because she simply wanted a child because she was lonely. I got no words for that. Judge for yourself. Your problem, their problem, not my problem, not my life, I couldn't care less, but the only thing is: I don't want to pay for YOUR child (taxes, benefits etc)

[@majdavojnikovic]

@@llVIU sure, and I don't want to pay for your mother medical bills.

[@llVIU]

@@majdavojnikovic tell me more about my mother, since you seem to know so much. She hasn't been to the hospital my entire life but tell me more since you seem to know so much. My father has been numerous times and every time, he had to pay for anything done. But please tell me more how I'm the hypocrite here. Or continue living in your fictional world. I'd love to just not pay taxes and every person pays for their own medical bills.

[@myyt3824]

Having kids with two parents really helps. Two incomes are always better than one. I couldn’t comfortably afford my life by myself, but my husband and I together earn almost $110k/year which makes owning a house quite affordable. Single parenthood is a money killer.

[@nicolemurphy2629]

Yes if you only value 'money' and not quality of life by other measures. If your that rich you'll be fine single too. Never stay with a beast for money. Unless you cannot escape. Poverty does that.

[@nicolemurphy2629]

Your use of the word killer is offensive. It makes you sound disturbed so I'm not sure in your situation 2 parents is best. It often isn't. So grateful that I was brought up by a single mum. Well Done Mum 🎉❤

[@myyt3824]

@@nicolemurphy2629 I pity you because you actually think single parent households are better for kids than 2 parents. THAT is disturbed.

[@AD-mh4zy]

@MY YT you think that it's okay for a child to stay with an abusive person in the household either female/male ?

[@o0julek0o]

@@AD-mh4zy IN MOST CASES SINGLE MOTHERS ARE SINGLE BY THEIR CHOICE NOT BY HAVING TO LEAVE FOR ANY LEGITIMATE REASON!!! Stop talking about fringe, rare cases.

[@andreaphelps4091]

I work and I’ve never been so poor

[@srehtaef1824]

Well done. I work full time. I am poor :)

[@july713x3]

We're u ever receiviing benefits? Did u fare better not working? In america benefits are so little how anyone survives is beyond me. I think many don't marry and their partner provides on the down low. Also, subsidized housing is key. I think free daycare as I believe the Scandinavian countries do. But American's won't want to pay the taxes

[@annebuckley3474]

Well lucky u

[@DouceVipere]

I worked 3 jobs, one would pay the rent, the second payed bills and transportation, the third was babysitting whenever I had free time for it, and that was my food money. If I didn't babysit, I wouldn't eat. I maybe slept 3 - 5 hours a night. Until I could finally get a job for my qualifications. After being hired for a proper full time job, the first weekend off was like a gigantic luxury.

[@fgrion]

you make it sound like you have 3 full time jobs, when obviously that's not the case. how many hours a week you work, what are your qualifications and what is your family situation?

[@DouceVipere]

@@fgrion No, it wasn't 3 full time jobs. One full time, the others only added up. Mon-Fri, 8-4 at a bookstore. School from 5-8pm. Babysitting after 8 most days of the week, usually finishing around midnight, but later on weekends. Then at department stores Saturdays and Sundays, from opening to closing. This is because I didn't have "UK experience". I speak 5 languages, have degrees in Political Sciences, Urbanism and Marketing. At that time I was studying Political Philosophy and Macroeconomics at Birkbeck College. I lived alone, with flatmates, no family to help me out. And volunteered at church on Sundays. Years later I could find a full time job that paid more than the previous 3 jobs combined. Eventually I rented a flat on my own.

[@alistairmonaghan6515]

In August 2021, after the Pandemic this is even more heartbreaking. 80% furlough and increased rent, food prices and utilities.

[@callangoldeneye7018]

She just said she spends 2/3 on her salary on rent; the fact is the UK housing market is a complete scam (especially in London) and prices are artificially high. I am not sure what the solution to this is other than building homes on an industrial scale on the green belt and drastically lowering house prices. Another option could be a property tax of 1.5% - 2% of a property's value paid per annum (this is done in the US). This would force landlords to not keep their properties empty and would reduce the incentive for people who partake in buy-to-let which is a large driver of the inflated house prices. This is coming from a capitalist libertarian mind you

[@crown9413]

Callan A. Carr i imagine there’s too many house poor elderly pensioners for that to work, it’ll be called the second bedroom tax. The issue of empty houses has been greatly exaggerated naturally there’s a number of homes empty at all times, as people move in and out. Only a few thousand homes are vacant for more than a year. Ending mass migration might be a more practical solution. We wouldn’t need all these new homes if our population was static. Also a capitalist libertarian

[@RoyalBlood23]

Callan A. Carr housing and child care prices are crippling us in London

[@callangoldeneye7018]

Crown9 yeah mass immigration sucks too lol

[@nobad6134]

The housing market is screwed up I agree. We need more building. But even in the current market she is way overspending on rent relative to her income. She can free up a 1/3rd of her income by moving into a cheaper spare room or even a Studio in the outer boroughs of London.

[@paulbutler2383]

Set rent caps on all properties. Get families with a combined income over 70k out of council flats/housing. Lots of others

[@TomBartram-b1c]

The unique thing about Britain now as opposed to 30 years ago and as opposed to other countries in Europe is the people on under 20 grand a year pay almost nothing in income tax. We sooo take that for granted.

[@nicolemurphy2629]

Why would you want to give your child 'everything'..? That would simply create a spoilt brat

[@NoliMeTangere1163]

High cost of housing, healthcare (in the US) and most importantly: childcare. We are a two income family, we both have advanced degrees, we both have jobs just under the national median. Once we pay for student loans, healthcare, childcare, rent for modest housing, and savings for our son's college fund, the vast majority of our income is gone. This is a huge problem which could be solved by reduced housing costs and more affordable childcare.

[@markknopfler6660]

May I suggest that having/raising children out of wedlock, working only 16 hours a week, and living in an expensive city might be some of the sources of her problem?

[@lulu-qw8xy]

For sure!

[@OrthodoxDAO]

@@lulu-qw8xy All her fault, no doubt. Long gone are the days you could find a reasonable, virtuous, virgin bride in the West.

[@Bangandthedirtisgone]

You can suggest that, and by doing so demonstrate that you haven't got the first idea what you're talking about. Do you really think she sat down and logically planned her life to work out like that or are you better than her? People make mistakes, are victim to others, things fall apart. Unless you are sufficiently wealthy, when they do, you are left to fend for yourself or struggle in some of the most excruciatingly unpleasant ways possible. She is only working 16hrs so that she can spend the rest of the time with her child! How is that not clear for you? As for the city, do you think it is just that easy to up and leave and set up a beautiful life somewhere else? That takes MONEY which, I'm not sure how you missed, after watching the documentary, she plainly doesn't have. You also know nothing about her social, support network connections that she may loose by being forced out of the city. I'd suggest you keep your suggestions to yourself. Though she is the perfect target for the elite to blame and shame into depression, she is not responsible for this, for that look to the terrifying ever increasing inequality in this country, the housing crisis and wages that haven't gone up in a decade.

[@Bangandthedirtisgone]

@mcfcbeeman Brexit thanks for making me laugh. I hope you never find yourself in a similar position.

[@mogznwaz]

@@Bangandthedirtisgone She chose to have children in an unstable situation and to continue living in London where no-one I know couid afford to live. At some point people need to take at least some responsibility for their own choices!!!

[@Kendall42971]

This is the price one pays for not owning their own business. If you don't work at or create your own dream company, then someone will pay you to work at their's, for pennies on the dollar. It is, what it is.🤷🏽‍♀️🇺🇸🇬🇧

[@blazzz13]

I agree but in my view being an entrepreneur is a talent. I liken it to people who are naturally gifted at certain sports or a high skilled job. Not everyone can be a doctor, not everone can be a professional tennis player. You either have it or you don't.

[@Kendall42971]

@@blazzz13 I detect no lies in your response. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@robertlovett5934]

I wish more reporters would cover the real story, the criminality of the 1%. Everyone has to become involved in politics! Become politicians and nationalize essentials things needed for life

[@barbarakosmatin3668]

I will never understand that having three children, that you cannot afford. I was a military wife and had my daughter 2 weeks after my 21st birthday. Throughout the next months, I learned that having a child was expensive. I got on birth control and did NOT have another child. This meant that I was able to pay for my daughters college and she has a fantastic career now.

[@rjj3738]

People are in poverty because they have kids when they can’t afford them. And a lot of the time these people aren’t having just one or two kids, they’re having 3 or 4. It’s absurd.

[@carolinegathercole8473]

Yes I agree ! “You get by, you manage” Who wants to live like that because they had more kids than they could afford, and it’s always the poorest who have large families. What? Why ? Because they had no education about birth control and self worth. Underage pregnancies should be penalised. It’s these kids who grow into adults who have no future.

[@beaulieuc8910]

yes, they don't bother with contraception

[@kinnish5267]

A woman with no marketable skills gets pregnant from a man who is not a husband and has no commitment to her and then she works part time. Work is not her problem but impulsive, reckless behavior

[@marthas.4456]

Sadly this is absolutely normal behaviour here. Maybe it should be taught in schools how to avoid this trap.

[@juliehornsby9671]

Maybe the creators of the program interviewed the wrong person because there are people working full time no babies and still couldn't make ends meet !

[@ZahdShah]

yeah she made some serious mistakes in life but most people do if they weren't given the correct guidance. Always have a condom and use contraceptive unless you want to ruin your life. Was taught that in school and thats also what my older cousin told me.

[@nothanks1239]

It's the rent that pisses me off. When you see the wealthy owning a home for themselves and another which they rent for extortionate prices it's very frustrating. Can't afford your own home and can't afford to rent. It's ridiculous.

[@minetavenue]

You can't really expect to work 16 hours a week and to be able to afford everything specially in London. Working 40h on minimum wage will give you the minimum not restaurant meals and holiday

[@vickyjones735]

people can like it or hate it but at the end of the day there is no need for name calling and to be honest no one knows what happened before they came single parents.

[@MrSvenovitch]

2 ppl with an optimism bias recklessly fucked. That's what happened.

[@elllouise3292]

Childcare should be free for working parents it’s ridiculous how people who don’t work get 15 hours free childcare from 2 but working people don’t !

[@mariahsmom9457]

Nothing is free.

[@flaviadias6189]

Why have children when you cannot afford them? This is irresponsible

[@SRPC21]

Everyone should be allowed to have children, not just rich people. I do think there should be a child benefits cap after two children though, but none of the families shown in this programme appeared to have more than two children.

[@SRPC21]

WinterGirl How would you enforce this? Who gets to decide and what’s the criteria? Would you force a woman to terminate if they got pregnant anyway? If they gave birth in private, would you have the baby killed? It sounds like a communist dictatorship to me.

[@SRPC21]

Sudhir Kakar I used to think like you then I grew up. Thankfully there’s zero public support for your types of measures (go to North Korea or China, they seem like your kind of place).

[@david-lt9wj]

I was one of four children.....my mother solved the problem of too many children....she ignored 2 and looked after 2.....the last 25 years of her life were very lonely..three successful ones cleared off...the remaining one lived around the corner....and remembered his early life..

[@beaulieuc8910]

yes and why even have kids

[@Garyboldyful]

Deciding to be a single parent in London is the obvious wealth building restriction - the two parent family together makes not only the child's life better, but allows the family to earn more and provide a more prosperous future.

[@mogznwaz]

People today fall in love, don't get married and just pop out kids then the relationship fails and the taxpayer is expected to pay.. It's not their fault of course - it's their human right. 🙄

[@majdavojnikovic]

She is divorced, that means she didn't choose to be single parent.

[@mogznwaz]

@@majdavojnikovic Then she chose her partner badly. People rush into marriage and kids then don't put the effort into making it work.

[@scovyaporsha777]

@@mogznwaz true. I don't have kids yet cause I refuse to have them with a fool and rely on benefits to live

[@gabbyelliott-stokes9591]

This is heartbreaking it really is, I wish people could be able to have money left to treat themselves and be able to do things. These people and to those of you reading this in the same situation, shouldn't feel bad. You are trying and it's not your fault.

[@dm-do7qz]

Here's a slogan: perspective leads to knowing reality. You are not "poor" and can't possibly be worried about feeding your kids if you are grotesquely obese. The reality is much of humanity is without even clean water and a decent, real place to live. So, no, people in the remains of the British Empire are NOT poor, no matter how many times the media show us obese people having kids they can't support saying they have to choose between "heatin' and "eatin'" We, the people who live in the real world, can see the clear reality that the choice has been over-eatin' and over-consumption and an unreal lack of perspective. That doesn't make you poor; it makes you absurd.

[@arvelneecy5570]

And I don't know about UK but here in the States, tattoos are NOT cheap!

[@antoniaf1886]

Whenever anyone argues for UC, they always ignore the actual issues being created by the system. People are suffering BECAUSE of UC, not in spite of. It’s not that hard to comprehend

[@ZahdShah]

UC keeps you poor because people dont want to lose their eligibility for UC by earning more money. But at the same time, UC really helps families who are truly struggling. My family has taken UC. And hopefully one day when I graduate I'll have a high enough income to be investing in properties and renting them out. This is why state schools need further government investment. Universities shouldn't trap students into studying stupid degrees with no job prospects. Let them charge 9k for sociology, let it be free (or reduced) for STEM.

[@stevenhuckaby2902]

Anyone outside of EU k ow what UC is ??

[@karlliebknecht4889]

The rentals market should be tightly regulated through price caps. When I lived in London, roughly half of my earnings were lost to the monthly rent that I had to pay for a tiny apartment. I've heard from mates that things got even worse since.

[@Musika1321]

Some are asking why we are in this horrific cost of living crisis with soaring child poverty in 2022. Below is a brief explanation that by no means covers everything but it begins to unravel things for people who haven't previously been interested in politics. Other people with knowledge should feel free to add their understandings in reply and help to build the picture. 💕 During Tony Blair's Government they set up targets for eradicating child poverty. They made it law for the Government to be accountable for meeting these targets.Child poverty was at an all time low and on target for eradicating child poverty by 2030. Shortly after the Conservative Lib Dem coalition got into power, they scrapped the targets and therefore the law that said Government should be held accountable became void. The Blair Government was not perfect but on matters of poverty it was on the fair money! In living memory, Child poverty was always measured by income and material deprivation, essentially. However, in 2016 the Tories scrapped these measurements and devolved governments decided if they wanted to do the same. They didn't, by contrast, Scotland kept those original measurements. All experts say the original measurements were the best and fairest ways to measure absolute and relative poverty. Instead, the Conservatives have replaced those measurements with a highly subjective list headed with if the child lives in a 'workless' household. However, research shows that the majority of people living in poverty (around 68%) are IN WORK...working the gig economy and struggling with ridiculous universal credit. YET the Tories still hold that work is the best way out of poverty...They also conveniently ignore the needs and rights of those who cannot work due to disability or other disabling issues. Also remember Thatcher's legacy of selling off council houses which were never replaced. That and her allegiance with Rupert Murdoch means the political system and the media is rigged towards the right. Thatcher began the destruction of the unions and the right to protest and Truss aims to finish it (remember - Truss is the figurehead - the big corporations and oligarchs are in charge). Is it any wonder we have declining mental health and that ADHD and learning difficulties are more commonly diagnosed now in children and young adults? Or that domestic violence and drug abuse is on the up? We are all slowly being eradicated. (This is part of the plan on a global scale - The Great Reset - look it up on KZbin or Google Scholar). Until the ordinary people realise this is a class war and that they have strength in their numbers, nothing will change. The Tories are about to scrap the Human Rights act in the U.K, they are demonising trades unions through the media and they are undermining the right to protest. Never vote Tory and educate yourselves as much as you can. Push for change - find an organisation or charity that work for the eradication of poverty and join them OR start your own protest within your community. Much love 💕

[@teamtitan3975]

and we are ok spending millions on the Queen....

[@Sarah-cn7ds]

Those of us older ones that work and are not entitled to help suffer too. Fortunately it’s only myself I have to worry about but it makes me cross when other people come to this country and get everything for free that I have to work for. These poor UK families are really going to struggle now. our system really needs to change . My work pension isn’t enough to retire on but with my combined state pension I would just get by, I’d love to retire due to ill health and let someone else take my job that has a family but I can’t... it’s just crazy. The older people have to work and leave the younger ones sat at home with nothing to do and kids to feed and clothe... seriously it doesn’t make sense! My state pension would be worth no more than anyone on benefits and it’s not like I haven’t paid for it, I’m not even eligible for pension credits because I’ve overpaid into the state pension so technically they government would be better off!

[@keikotunoda426]

Why do poor people have kids？Here in Japan if you do not have enough money to take care of kids you do not marry and you do not have kids.

[@vickyr1388]

I ardmire Japan. Very smart, modern country. Contrary to a number of countries in Europe..

[@annalehman93941]

So you're having lowest birth rate in the world. Very smart (sarcasm)

[@asdfghjkl3003]

You guys don't have any kids period youre population is declining.

[@family-peace-love]

@PPG 29 exactly it's not all about money.

[@beaulieuc8910]

exactly, here in the Uk they pop out kids like rabbits knowing they cannot afford food etc for them and then say, all poor people should have kids. I think we have a very immature culture

[@Chipchase780]

I didn’t become a dad until I was 49. Yes I know, late in life, but I had bought my house in a pleasant neighbourhood and didn’t have any debts. I have one daughter and wouldn’t have any more because I know we would start to struggle a bit financially. I keep credit card use to a minimum. Sometimes we don’t have a holiday if other expenditures like a new boiler take priority. I live within my means. Too many people see holidays, takeaways, cigarettes, booze, and a car as basic human rights. And then wonder why they end up over their heads.

[@joeylichty9003]

Well said, and as I've said before, when you possess less, things are much more affordable.

[@finehomemadewine]

I partly agree with You - the luxuries shouldn´t be taken as something one is automatically entitled to as a basic human right. On the other hand - I strongly feel having children IS basic human right (and in interest of society), and we shouldn´t have to wait till we are almost 50 just to be able to feed them. ...And now somebody will say "why should tax payers pay for you to be able to have kids, why should society care about needs of your family..." But a) IT IS the primary interest of society to bring up new generation that will continue the society and all social politics are basically about that need, and b) WE ARE the tax payers and WE ARE the society.

[@lolajenkins2674]

@@finehomemadewine strongly disagree, with the amount of people living on benefits just breeding tons of kids that they cant afford, we are majorly overpopulated and that just adds to poverty. Theres only so many houses, and only so much land in the UK, it is NOT in interest of society to have kids, especially when you cant afford them. Resources are limited and are already stretched to capacity. Think of our nhs, think of our food supply and think of our housing infrastructure.

[@larrygerry985]

Poverty is a state of mind. I grew up poor with 4 brothers, single mother etc. But it is not a disaster, it is just a period of time for the majority of people. The lesson I learnt that poverty is not for ever and life choices is the biggest impact if you stay poor or you slowly move out of poverty.

[@PhoenixFires9]

Why is it that the poorer people are the more children they seem to have? It’s crazy!

[@Youssii]

Easy to look at it and say poor people are having more kids when in the UK at least, it’s much more likely that having children makes you more vulnerable to poverty. When you have extra mouths to feed, and childcare for a single child costs on average almost as someone on minimum wage makes working full time, it’s not surprising that parents end up destitute.

[@beaulieuc8910]

having kids can make people poor and in debt

[@linnrichter1783]

One of the biggest poverty contributors in the UK is the high cost of child care. In Germany for example, child care is publicly funded for everyone and you only contribute relative to your income. Someone earning 2000 € per months, will pay around 100 € for child care. This is why single parents are able to work full time.

[@baljj]

Some of us make the adult decision to not have children because we feel that we cant afford to bring them up without state handouts. Isn't that something?

[@thefaithful5991]

Whilst people are struggling, MP's are upping their pay.

[@kynchan3332]

It becomes difficult when you have to provide for others like children and dependents. Unfortunately many people start families while in a tenuous position to begin with. If a person, even on low skill work, works like crazy to save £50,000, develops high earning skills, develops the discipline of continuous improvement and continues to watch their expenses that creates a stronger position to start a family. But there must be some fear to keep a person working hard. Look at the worst off elderly who have run out of money. They have no work, no way to get back into the conventional workforce, no one to look after them, have mobility issues, can't afford the heating bills and have a lack of food. The future can be extremely bleak with no planning and not enough sacrifice. For inspiration look back at an earlier age for instance during and just after the wars where the country needed to be rebuilt, volunteers were always required (working, developing skills and no pay), people may not have had full employment and to overcome a lack of food the garden was used to grow vegetables. The pleasures like the holiday were forgotten, people cooked for themselves etc. Those hard people of the past probably think the got used to the easy life people of now are weak.

[@juliantheapostate8295]

Exactly right. People don't plan, and they get what they deserve

[@beaulieuc8910]

well said they seem to think having kids are very cheap

[@cosmic4037]

Work to keep the rich wealthy, most jobs should be renamed as modern slavery.

[@ibnbattouta6476]

I cried... This is so true ..

[@sc3304]

And we're still talking about this 5 years later......

[@diogomonteiro8014]

A property in London in the 1970's now costs about 30 times as it did, £12000 then now worth £300,000, and wages have not kept up with the money printing craze of the big banks devaluing currency.

[@gr8macaw1]

On Jan 6th we nearly had a revolution on the capital building in the US. They said it was about Trumps fraudulent election. No people are sick of being used and next time heads will roll.

[@rosarose3443]

Have you ever watched Cathy come home.

[@snakeplisken9276]

Like when they say “unemployment has fallen” that really means “fewer people claiming out of work benefits” which years ago meant the government temporarily employed me to do unemployment training, where we guessed TV theme tunes and ate biscuits all day

[@luke7708]

Your the ONLY other person who seems to realise there's more than meets the eye with regards to the 'record breaking' employment figures every month.

[@gbjanuary]

Cosmo Kramer 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧

[@LittleKitty22]

Yup, I was sent on such a basic skills course in 1998. There I learned basic reading and writing. Thing is though - I am a qualified accountant with degrees in accountancy, business law, business management, politics, economics... I also speak several languages. So I don't think I needed to learn to read and write.

[@fionagregory8078]

@@LittleKitty22 why did you not tell them?

[@fionagregory8078]

@@LittleKitty22 why cant you get an accountancy job?

[@fay-amieaspen6046]

Anyone wanting to see a portrayal of modern Britain and the Welfare System and Job Centre difficulties including Benefit Sanctions should watch the brilliant film 'I Daniel Blake' directed by Ken Loach. Absolutely brilliant film. For Me, definitely one of his best !

[@TheFedaykiin]

The real problem is wages are not high enough, they need to bring minimum wage in line with the cost of living, Minimum Wage in London should be £10 an hour for example

[@nobad6134]

Bobby Digital Which corporations can all afford that? Minimum wage jobs are low skilled low marketplace value. No one is paying 10 pounds an hour for flipping burgers and pressing screens at McDonald’s when electronic kiosks can do that for a fraction of the cost and don’t take sick breaks or holiday. The solution is for people to make better life choices and stop having kids they can’t afford. All of these people here had children which are the biggest resource drain for an adult. You don’t have kids willy nilly and expect the State to take care for them. It’s immoral

[@helenw7581]

Which corporations can afford that? Are you for fucking real? Probably the same corporations that are "based in" tax havens to avoid contributing to society despite making billions in profit in the countries they sell in. The same corporations whose owners a multi-billionaires and sit around on yachts in Monaco all day thanks to their inherited billions. How can people be so blind as to blame those at the bottom of society instead of looking up?

[@nobad6134]

Corporations are not charities mate, They have shareholders, many of them millions of Western citizens who have invested in their stock as a retirement benefit. The job of McDonalds is not to subsidize bad decisions of regular citizens. The market is about competition and if McDonalds paid 10 pound an hour for a job worth 7 pounds an hour of skill and labour supply in the market, they would be defeated by competitors or at lest lose a lot of income that is not worthwhile. In fact if you raised the minimum wage for these jobs, you'll just accelerate the rise of automation and artificial intelligence investment to replace all these jobs anyway. These people at minimum wage need to learn a skill, with help of government if applicable or by taking advantage of opportunities around them available. Maximizing profit is the back bone of modern Western society because without it the rich would have no reason to invest and just park more of that money into tax havens than put it to good use to employ other people to earn a living.

[@tonedowne]

The real problem is the deregulation of the mortgage industry. When mortgages were strictly limited to 3X your annual income, and were hard to get, the cost of housing was stable and realistic. Add to that the depletion of council house stock and housing and you have a devastating attack on the standard of living for middle to low income people.

[@tonedowne]

Oliver Marawueke, What is the economic sense in having people working jobs that don't meet the cost of living? There will always be low and unskilled workers, if they have no disposable income, then it has a negative effect on the whole economy and is a burden to government. As it stands, automation is very expensive, that is why it isn't everywhere. There is an automated McDonalds near me and it still has a ton of people working in it. Also, total automation will mean the end of capitalism. If human labour is not needed for production, then how is money going to work? Trading shares is not the same as investment and serves no useful economic function. All it does is shift a companies focus onto shareholder returns and away from the interests of consumers and employees. If your company makes apple pies, the ongoing pressure to maximise profits to the extent that shareholders find attractive, means that you will need to keep reducing the amount of apple in the apple pie and exert a strong downward pressure on wages while giving less pie to the consumer for more money. Business that aren't publicly traded don't have that same pressure as they are able to negotiate the relationship between costs, customers and profit for themselves. The stock market is a belief system that is capable of crushing the value of a profitable company that doesn't follow whatever the current economic fad is.

[@farmgirl5931]

Over priced housing, low wages and too much single parenthood. Better stronger families and married parents. Huge deep problems.

[@barbarakosmatin3668]

I look at all of the following comments and I don't see ONE comment about these poor parents choosing to have LOTS OF KIDS????????????I got married at 18 years of age, got pregnant at 21 years of age and after that, I realized CHILDREN ARE EXPENSIVE. Husband left me and NEVER PAID CHILD SUPPORT. After that, I never had another child and was able to provide nice housing, college, all paid for and my daughter has a wonderful career.

[@raj3619]

The government wants slaves thats what is happening if you work hard you will not get any benefit so you can’t take any overtime to enjoy with your family if you want to go on Holidays

[@emmadee5181]

Truth

[@lbunnygordon1133]

I worked 20 hours a day just to pay rent on one room vut no otine now and was made redundant considered too old at 58 .. cant even get job in mcdonalds ....