The World Over February 15, 2024 | WOMEN'S ORDINATION?, MOTHER CABRINI, RUPNIK'S ART

[@pattytada9117]

Father Gerald Murray you are the light in total darkness please continue to guide us

[@robertjamesd.morales4461]

Yes agree!!! Complete DOUBLE talk from Cardinal Fernandez! Yes they say its a Synodal Church...but is the Pope listening? The pope does not even respond to bishops and priests when asked for clarification on matters of the faith and doctrine...I continue to pray for the enlightenment of the Holy Father Pope Francis and to truly lead the Church the way Jesus would. The Roman Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ wants to evangelize and influence the people of the world and NOT the other way around. Are we going to live by God's standards or the world's standards? God bless the three of you especially Father Gerald E. Murray!!! Keep up the good work gentlemen! The Church needs you in this time of crisis and confusions.

[@pattytada9117]

It’s not a synodal church. It us the church of Jesus Christ

[@JeanMR2383]

Thank you Papal Posse for your clear articulation of the truths of our Catholic faith. May God bless you and our Blessed Mother keep you always. May you and we have a Blessed, Holy and fruitful Lent 🙏✝️✝️✝️

[@dhanawaken9323]

Lord GOD… you take care of EVERYTHING! We Trust in You! GOD ALWAYS WINS🙌🏼🕊

[@foxx2990]

Heaven forgive these prelates busy persecuting the Traditional Latin Mass and the devout Catholics attending these Masses. What an awful mistake they’re making.

[@phoebedigs1356]

Seek and find a traditional Mass and support them. Send Rome a message.

[@foxx2990]

@@phoebedigs1356 Not everyone has access to a TLM. And many that once did, have had theirs forcibly taken away…the screws are turning tighter for many young families who want to attend the TLM…”Send Rome a message..”. Huh ? My friend, there are princes of the church who are being unceremoniously down by Rome, do you really think they’d listen to laity who oppose their current agenda ?

[@katherinehickey6915]

I'm frustrated by current events in the Church but I trust in God to get the faithful through it all

[@Ginger-153]

Yes, trUst in GOD! But also GOD has given us a major, overlooked clue in the "Catechism of the Catholic Church" under "The Church's Ultimate Trial" Paragraph #'s 675,676,677. These paragraphs may never have been preached from the pulpit? But, they are soul saving!

[@vrgg8376]

Excellent! I really appreciate the interview with Liz Lev about Fr. Rupnik's art. My homeschooled teens and I listened to your opposing viewpoints and learned a lot. By the way, it was your former interview with Lev about her book that inspired me to add her book to our curriculum. HOW CATHOLIC ART SAVED THE FAITH is an excellent book that encompasses art, history, and religion. Commentary by Fr. Murray and Robert Royal is always enlightening.

[@anamariamonttemayorderamir4198]

When I saw his work at Píos I hated it! It was freaky and remember thinking that Padre Pio was not happy!!! Please get rid of it!!!!

[@mikebolognese7134]

Does the Dycastery have any credibility left? No, it doesn't.

[@francikoen]

Rupnik's art is #warped ... just like his mind and character.

[@cathyj.ploszaj7163]

St Francis of Assisi was ordained deacon (but never a priest - he felt unworthy) in order that he could preach. There were no women preaching.

[@jimmu2008]

Hildegard of Bignen preached. And she was canonized by Benedict XVI.

[@soniavadnjal7553]

Surely Rupnik's outlook informs his art. He, and it, should go.

[@edwardbaker1331]

The eyes are souless and lifeless, even of Holy figures.

[@ambicateiler3152]

Yes. He is trying to imitate what Byzantine artists did-their figures stare out and confronts the viewer. They are anything but soulless.

[@edwardbaker1331]

@@ambicateiler3152 Eyeless figures can not stare, no matter how much stupidity desires to project meaning into meaninglessness.

[@cynthias634]

It’s disgusting, take it down immediately. How sick to even consider keeping it.

[@Oudeis000]

Thank you for sharing the historical and considered insights of Dr. Lev regarding the treatment of sacred art by unholy artists. It was informative for her to share the historical precedents of Caravaggio and Fra Filippo Lippi. Of course, that an injustice has precedent is not grounds to repeat the injustice, so I appreciate the nuanced distinctions and analysis that Mr. Arroyo and Dr. Lev presented. I do pray that Rupnik is properly tried and brought to justice for the sake of his victims and the health of the church.

[@SamHabra]

Michael Angelo was gay Leonardo da Vinci was gay so there should be taken out of the church there’s not true

[@brianwalsh7352]

Rupnik’s “art” is garbage. They are bizarre and unhuman.

[@joanne3964]

We need an African Pope!! They are holy!

[@maryannelindenberger6199]

GOD HELP US!!! LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!

[@FrankBrescia-z8i]

That “trans funeral” at St. Patrick’s reminded me of a joke a priest once told in my parish. A parishioner wanted to have a funeral Mass for his dog. The pastor told him, “We can’t have a funeral Mass for a dog”. The man told the pastor, “But Father, I was going to write a $1 million dollar check to the parish”. The pastor thought about it for a moment and replied, “Oh, that’s different. You didn’t tell me it was a Catholic dog”.

[@carmenwheatley5376]

Raymond, you are so right: Rupnik's work is not art. That is the deciding factor here. I too saw the murals at Lourdes long before he was outed and wondered why they were thought fit to be there, after the finer work within.We need Alexander Tschuggel on the job!

[@Ginger-153]

Yes! GOD bless Alexander Tschuggel !

[@IrisDemarco77]

Why is rupnik mosaic of baby Jesus, have our saviour bound in straps like his message is to bind and stifle the message in his birth. Just looking at his art , makes me sick knowing who he is and what he has done. It’s a heartless slap in the faces of all who were abused by him. Disgusting. Take it down ! His dark soul has destroyed so many innocent lives.

[@Gatsby18]

Absolutely!!

[@lidiasoares5675]

Almighty and Eternal God and Father in Heaven. We need Your Help and guidance, for we are lost and confused on the Pope's conduct. Do we follow him, do we resist him?! please help us to make the right decisions. We humbly ask this in the Name of Jesus Your Beloved Son, Our Lord and Redeemer! Amen!

[@MichaelReilly-r7h]

I have been watching and supporting World Over longer than I can recall. Dear folks at what point will you draw the line and say ENOUGH ! NO MORE

[@edwardbaker1331]

No more to what?

[@pattytada9117]

@@edwardbaker1331sodomy for starters lol

[@mikep9913]

⁠​⁠@@edwardbaker1331To all the error, chaos and confusion?

[@edwardbaker1331]

@@mikep9913 I agree with this. But I often butt heads with Francis loyalists who just cannot listen to any criticism of their idol and will insult anyone who finds fault with Francis.

[@haroldgaubert]

Enough! No More! Of this Wicked Pope Francis. Now I said it for everybody!!!!

[@NavigatingOurFaith]

Pray pray pray

[@kellywing3499]

2 James 17

[@patwhite7970]

I hope Father Murray never gets canceled 😞

[@edwardbaker1331]

When you tell the whole world that what we believe is just "stuff" we make up as we go along, you tell the whole world that the Catholic Church, God's Church, has no credibility whatsoever. To abuse God's Church in this way is a crime against humanity.

[@jmm91910]

Against God also 🥲

[@SaltShack]

I Don’t understand at all. Why are these accretions, developments and innovations different than the Innovations beginning with the Filioque, Papal Supremacy and Carolingian Reforms.

[@edwardbaker1331]

@@SaltShack Because there is a day and night difference between explaining the implications of unchanging immutable truth in changing historical circumstances and destroying the witness of truth itself. Got it?

[@SaltShack]

@@edwardbaker1331 Got it, Roman Catholicism has been the arbiter of immutable Truth and the sole authority over its witness, except under Francis.

[@ambicateiler3152]

With the Filioque,the Carolinian reforms , and papal supremacy, you have valid demonstrations of apostolicity-of the fact that these doctrines are logical developments from Apostolic Tradition that can be clearly demonstrated. Quite the contrary. In some Eastern churches the wives of deacons are addressed as “diakonissai”-but the wives have no liturgical functions. It’s just an honorific title. It’s like saying “Mrs. Wife of our Deacon”. There was a heretical sect in the early Church that did ”ordain” women-the followers of Marcion. This was one of the issues on which Marcion and his followers were condemned by their contemporaries as heretical.

[@michaelaschorr413]

JUST LOVE AND RESPECT Your Show ALWAYS ..❤❤❤THANK YOU Mr. Raymond

[@bernob9770]

Why are they studying this? Do these guys have so much free time, this isn’t even the top 100 things the church should be looking at or think about how to save the earth. He should we worried about how to save peoples life. This pope has lost it. . . Go Africa stand up for Bible! Someone has to . . .

[@EpoRose1]

Went to check out showtimes for Cabrini at my local theater, and they are indeed selling out!

[@kenkessner9594]

Fr. Gerald is spot on. We have arrived at a place where we must discern our call to obedience of the Holy Father compared with our knowledge that we are being asked to accept something which is a contradiction to the Gospel. Very difficult times.

[@swilliams7850]

Are there any dogmas in history from any Pope beside the Marian dogmas? If so, isn't everything else every Pope has ever said simply optional??

[@Ginger-153]

@kenkessner9594 🕯Check out, in the "Catechism of the Catholic Church" under "The Church's Ultimate Trial " Paragraph #'s 675,676,677. Those paragraphs may never have been heard preached from the pulpit but they are soul saving!

[@frgabrielmary4620]

It sounds like a subtle step toward a "non-sacramental" diaconate, similar to the "non-liturgical" blessings recently encouraged.

[@marcelw6045]

The issue of female ordination is as closed as the blessing of same sex unions was, as rock solid as the Catholic take on capital punishment was, as true to tradition as the translation of the Our Father was: meaning, Francis will change it all, right after some dicastery declares the change impossible.

[@ambicateiler3152]

? ? ?

[@sylviesauve]

Correct, a woman cannot be a priest. God gave this role to men. Life is given through a man. The man gives life through the sacraments in the Church. I am a woman and I understand the importance of this. May God enlighten the pope. You are in my prayers. Continue the great work!

[@willettejackson979]

Enjoyed the segment and your sharing everytime I choose to update.❤ ☺️

[@lizzierixom1676]

This art is the most hideous art I've ever seen, it's always made me feel ill looking at it, even before we knew what he was up to, and it's at the Padre Pio shrine 😩

[@phoebedigs1356]

I feel so sorry for these clerics that think they can do these heretical things and get away with them. God will not be mocked. Sham on them. Pray for their conversion. Also, we do get the leaders we deserve. Pray the rosary and fast for mercy. Pray for the holy souls in Purgatory and ask them to pray for us. This is what we can do. Power is in prayer!

[@baseballmomof8]

Your art expert is an example of everything that is wrong in the church and the world.

[@teresabrownlee9437]

Well, at the end of every Mass the Priest Presider gives the whole Church a very pronounced Blessing of the Sign of the Cross. I can feel it through my very being. Why does the homosexual couple get two Blessings? They get one at all Masses?

[@sandybarron7283]

Lord have mercy

[@debbie2027]

"these people know what they are doing" SO AGREE ... and it isn't their firs rhodeo

[@jmm91910]

Ask the victims if they want to have memories of their abuser when they see his art; in my opinion there’s not much to discuss. his ugly art goes to the trash 🤢🤮

[@nenameza2982]

Raymond, the only way the Pope would pay attention is if the church stopped all funding to the Vatican. I and many had stopped donations to church. Period…♥️🌷🙏🌷♥️🙏

[@NA-ls7hi]

Many things that were not possible are unfortunately becoming possible, I think this will be approved as well. Our Church is going certain way that and we have no power accept to pray and for God to intervene and saves us for this nightmare 😫 Pray pray pray 🙏

[@fabfour-o2i]

Why change the Church?!? C'mon I want a legitimate answer, because if it is a lack of priests then why are there so many priests being cancelled for no real reason!!! I'm thinking.. wouldn't this be a good time for King Jesus to return?!?! 😢

[@greer15]

Arroyo's sneakergate scandal is despicable. Racism revealed. Resign in disgrace.

[@johnpastor2390]

I think the best presentation of the two sides of the debate about a female diaconate are Aime Martimort’s Deaconnesses: An Historical Study and Roger Gryson’s The Ministry of Women in the Early Church. They use the same historical data and come to opposite conclusions. I think Martimort got it right. Deaconnesses assisted with the baptism of women. The only other occurrence seemed to be later in Church history outside the Catholic communion, and these were hospital workers. It is important that whatever comes out that we remember the distinction between ordination to the diaconate and to the priesthood and episcopacy. Deacons are ordained to service, not to priesthood. Only priests and bishops are ordained to priesthood. Deacons are not priests in Holy Orders, but deacons in Holy Orders. Bishop McKnight’s Understanding the Diaconate, Historical, Theological, and Sociological Foundations is the best work on the diaconate. The diaconate today may not be entirely what it was historically. I am not the resident expert but I think these points are important in any serious discussion.

[@menquen4828]

This Priest is amazing God blessed you

[@navy7633]

Rupnik's so-called art is horrible. So, let's get rid of it. It is not beautiful at all.

[@simonewilliams7224]

This is P. Francis “ incrementalism” that we have seen before. But he’s trying to get affirmation to do things outright. Then suddenly he slaps the Church with another heresy, without Bhp +/or Cdl affirmation if only by a few numbers of them and not Officially either. It all seems so rushed, as if their is a ticking bomb set to go off any second.

[@markrobertson5440]

And spot on Raymond, the young people are so attracted to the Latin Mass, it's not going anywhere.

[@phoebedigs1356]

When I hear the name Mother Cabrini I think of Mother Angelica. ❤️

[@maryrose7842]

So sad that the Church is experiencing such trials and evil acts are being promoted.

[@DeannaWillistonOFS]

Getting ready to go to the JPII Shrine to see the exhibit on the Polish martyrs and disgusted that Rupnick’s work will being the same place. I have always been repulsed by his work, but after hearing how he abused those sisters, it is unbearable. Perhaps it would be tolerable if he appeared repentant? I do not know.

[@joeberkemeier5904]

Nothing says there is something seriously wrong within the Catholic Church like the prominence that Rupnick's work is given. No disrespect to your guest, but the gut reaction almost universaly felt by the faithful should be trusted and the art should be removed.

[@juliemyrick1038]

Amen Raymond!!!!!!!

[@jimmu2008]

The Orthodox have deaconeses and they say the practice is ancient. I don't know, however, if they ordained the way deacons are.

[@rosemarieobrien4800]

Fr Jerry, there would be More Confusion in the Church regarding female deracinate.

[@nikkisanner1496]

Unfortunately when the mass was changed the universality of the church began to erode. Before the new mass, an American could go to a mass anywhere in the world and feel at home and be able to worship the same way with their brothers and sister in Christ. They just wouldn’t be able to understand the sermon. After the new mass that’s not so! I can go to a church down the road from my house and one across town and they be quite different in character even if I can understand the language in both places. Just The ability of each priest to make choices throughout the mass alone can change the mass so much from one location to the other. And that spirit has made priests and laity think that they are the makers and changers of the liturgy. It’s been truly devastating. Until we finally admit that we’re just going to continue down the spiral we’re in.

[@markrobertson5440]

You are so right Raymond, girls as altar boys was the beginning of the effort to have women priests. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz was the only bishop in the country not to allow girl altar boys. He was in a minority of one, as he often was, but he was right again of course.

[@dominicpresta5637]

Never ask an artist what they think about art. beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Beauty comes from God. generations upon generations can look upon his art, and come up with the same conclusion…ugly almost to the point of diabolical

[@johnkeller6063]

Time to clean house. I'm also looking forward to seeing this movie. Looks like it will be a great movie. I thought Elizabeth Seaton was the US first saint

[@madonnahood3381]

Looking forward to Cabrini.

[@pmay0922]

I’m sad that there is so much evil in Rome. When will this end?

[@jesusorozco9374]

Pleace in Español,Español puede hacer en Español el programa?

[@suzannespanier4492]

They beat His face for these sins…the One, who created all, was crowned with thorns and mocked mercilessly…. And it is complete. But, Respectfully, Francis better be right…..it is very disturbing…

[@sharonoconnor7769]

Why is the Vatican not clarifying this issue. The Church is fraying at the seams.

[@richarddouglas8015]

What is crooket cannot be made straight !the bible !😊 Revolution is the only action to save the church !

[@lilianclifford1145]

This is so sad: Confusion comes straight from Satan himself! And all we are getting is inconsistency and confusion! Why, why, why on earth is this mass confusion being spread by Cardinal Fernandez with the signature of Pope Francis??? We either believe that Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist and is the center of our Holy Churchor, not! There is no gray area in this. May God have mercy on all of us! " Precious blood of Jesus Christ, Save us and the whole world! " Amen 😢❤ 🙏

[@cynthiao.543]

I’m not clear….what is the reason given for the stoppage of the TLM in the many locations? Is it to save money, or what? what is the reason Francis gives?

[@francisrodrigues9438]

30:02 Raymond, whe I hear all this distressing news from Rome, why is it not possible for you to interview these Bishops, Cardinals and even the Pope. They give interviews to all others outlets WHY dont you try?

[@peaceandlove544]

The subscription number doesn't work!! YT algorithm doesn't like EWTN

[@smummy2904]

Phoebe, deacon of the church, pray for these people

[@patriziafusco2358]

if these ladies believed in Our Lady, surely they would strive to be like her, Our Lord was a man, ala cart religion, GOD HELP US ALL

[@kellywing3499]

It pains me to say this, but how Catholic can one be when one promotes un-Catholic ideas?

[@kathleenhamilton7608]

Simple, yes, that is a fact. I believe I saw work like this in a government social daycare center. Didn't God condescend for us enough? I can't imagine people going to visit this art 400 years from now.

[@bluschke52]

The art should be trashed. And he should be in jail.

[@Virginia-yq3jd]

Does the Pope even care about doing the will of God at this point? I don’t understand what is happening.

[@paulwarren964]

These clerics misunderstand how some morality questions’ relationship to culture intersect. Calling the Holy Father’s attempt to bring the gospel to our culture and our time close to ‘Protestantism’ is miserably ignorant

[@margaretmccrann467]

Was it Fernandes write the document

[@margaretklos8937]

In 1994 (30 years ago - Raymond, maybe the Papal Posse can do a show on this), PJPII (through then-Cardinal Ratzinger) issued Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, which infallibly defined that the Church has no authority to ordain women. Period. PF canonized PJPII. So since PJPII is a canonized Saint, shouldn't he uphold the teaching of his predecessor (which is the infallible teaching of the Church) in Ordinatio Sacerdotalis ?

[@madonnahood3381]

Cardinal Ratzinger became Benedict XVI, not JPII.

[@margaretklos8937]

​@@madonnahood3381, I think you misunderstood my post. Then-Cardinal Ratzinger - who later became BXVI - actually wrote Ordinatio Sacerdotalis. PJPII approved it and signed it. That's what I meant.

[@terencelanigan5871]

Why is this arch conservative still speaking for EWTN.??? I'm tired of his division and negativism against Pope Francis. Get rid of him.NOW.!!! Don't believe me listen to the first article spoken here.

[@jimmueller1214]

We have been asked not to sing songs authored by a certain musician. This songwriter was not as ruthless as Rupnik.

[@darlenebradley6756]

Rupnik's "art" should be removed.

[@NA-ls7hi]

Chaos is in the church we witnessed it in NY cathedral 😏

[@arthurhallett-west5145]

Why can't women be deacons? The deacon represents the Holy Spirit, the bishop the Creator, and the presbuter the Son, according to the Fathers. The Holy Spirit (unlike the other two) is neither male nor female. Just because it is presently against canon law doesn't mark it out as immutable. Canon Law can be changed, and often has been. JPII said women can never be ordained as priests. deacons are not priests; bishops and presbyters are. There were female deacons in the early church, although they were largely restricted in sacramental practice to women and baptism. No reason why their ministry in this age cannot be extended; that is a matter for the church to decide. Aren't you being merely mysognistic here?

[@MARYHILL-r8f]

Listen to yourselves and grow up and and pray abput it Jesus always reached out to the other

[@roscoe268]

Yes, Jesus reached out to all sinners (everyone) to repent and follow him, to conform our lives to his, not the other way around.

[@vince6822]

There have been two Catholic Churches since 1970...one True and one False. The Novus Ordo is on the path to Hell. Thr Traditional Rite is preserving the one True Church. God Bless Archbishop Lefebvre...he was correct.

[@jmm91910]

Art???

[@americantico9896]

Very disappointed at Pope Francis! I’m a proud catholic

[@sandraelder1101]

Yes. More masculine please!!!

[@tgguiquing9579]

How happy this Papa has made the demons that they keep dancing n merrymaking down there. AMBIGUITY seems to be the rule of the hour. This may be the signal of the end of the world. How could he do this to us? How sad. LORD, PLS COME N BE RECOGNIZED. WE ARE SO CONFUSED

[@terrim9323]

Imteresting that yew tuße won't allow me to smash thumbs up.

[@kathleenhamilton7608]

Clearly, she is defending the man. If he did to one of her loved ones the same thing he did to nuns, she'd be singing another tune. She is equating the removal of this art with cancel culture? That's language designed to make us back off.

[@bernicenordhus5997]

In the end time is the whole church, both male & female one body in relationship to Christ who is head?

[@karennelson5304]

Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith. [1 Corinthians 14:34] Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. [1 Timothy 2:11] Almighty God Spoke on women speaking in church. He says: absolutely NO!!!

[@briandelaney9710]

So all the lectors we’ve had since the Council have to give up ?

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

​@@briandelaney9710 lector was never a layman role prior to Vatican 2

[@anamariamonttemayorderamir4198]

Horrible work! It is not art!!

[@veritasmuy2407]

approx 11:22-23: The Apostle said that Christians are to be conformed to the image of Christ -- *and NOT be conformed to this evil World culture/view* -- see Romans 12:1-2 -- *and at the time this was written, the Roman Empire accepted hom0sexuality as normal.* WHY would the vatican (and James Martin) be pushing the acceptance of hom0sexuality when the Apostle said that GOD uses the abomination/disgust of hom0sexuality to curse those that blaspheme GOD -- Romans 1:25-28 ??? (Lev 20:13, Lev 18:33) Confusion.

[@veritasmuy2407]

How can the pope even think about heretically making women deacons when the Bible clearly says what a deacon MUST be in 1Timothy 3:8-13 -- and what bishops MUST be in 1Timothy 3:2-7 -- and what Elders MUST be in Titus 1:5-9 -- *and the instructions of Apostle Paul regarding WOMEN in 1Timothy **2:11**-12 ???* Is this the false end time church of Apocalypse 3:14-21 and 2Timothy 4:3 ?? Confusion.

[@breakthroughmadeinusa9184]

SSPX

[@MamiShaun]

They were definitely on to something weren't they? Saw this coming from decades away.

[@mishasumi6827]

This is purposeful what Rome is doing. ROME is not occupied by Catholics.

[@beorbeorian150]

That last guest I found her disturbing. On many levels.