The World's BEST Earphone... is 10 years old.

[@crin]

Not sponsored but since they're the only English-speaking retailer of the Viento, why not give Zeppelin & Co some love? zeppelinandco.com/products/bespoke-headfi-singapore-headphones-earphones-audiophile-amplifier-dac-dap-music-player-tws-hidition-viento-abcd-ciem

[@STAYCBias]

From 7 hertz to Final Audio.... Quite a good decision! 😅 No moondrop, never will .... DAC maybe, not IEMs... reason? Too much Hyped, slowly degrading....

[@IsdisLos]

After just visiting the Hangout last week, I have more reasons to return to Singapore.

[@R-98]

Hi @crin , Could you do a rating for wireless headphones ( under 200$). A tire list would be grate,, because i am looking for something decent, but can not find reviews i can trust! (your profession opinion would come in handy)

[@a_Random_Reptile]

It’s saying $1,500 for me, not $1,000, is it region based pricing?

[@hemispherecompensation]

Coz they never replied to my inquiry for the ZMF stabilized. No response when they said I would get one

[@vexili2464]

This is nice but I like the delta airlines earbuds the best.

[@sephondranzer]

If only I had the blessed ears that could fit the Delta Earbuds - we need custom Deltas! 😂❤

[@quartzofcourse]

Big Bus or bust

[@jatinsinghbajwa5974]

The A shape tuning

[@CubeBag]

If you EQ bigbus to delta then they cancel each other out and you get hidition viento Look at the graphs, they are basically complete opposites

[@fungalcoffee]

Real OG

[@bigfatdynamo]

Casually has the MKIII sitting in a box... what a tease.

[@doodlebug4947]

Just saw that, lol. I bought them a few days ago from Linsoul funny enough 😄. Can't wait to get them!

[@AzariusR]

Crinacle: Ranked 1000+ iems and headphones, Opened a hangout coffee shop to allow demo of said iems and headphones, Literally tells you not to die and fuck off in the most pleasant way, Will not elaborate further. Kiasu af this guy but hey i respect that.

[@Goodbutevilgenius]

In the most unpleasant way*

[@sephondranzer]

That audio quality with the fit and sound isolation of a CIEM makes this the easiest S-Tier recommendation, minus how hard it is to get the Viento in the US :(

[@profound369]

I'm curious what's the difference between a ciem and a iem?

[@zadsazhad]

​@@profound369the fit, perfect for ur ears

[@mattlth]

@@profound369 CIEM is a Custom In-Ear Monitor, meaning you have to have an audiologist make impressions of your ear canals, then you send those impressions to the manufacturer and they make custom earpieces that fit your ear canals perfectly. The downsides to CIEMs are that they only fit one person (you) and that they usually cost more because they have to be made one at a time. The IEM (aka UIEM) is a universal IEM that will fit any ear because they come with differently-sized ear tips (usually made of silicone or foam.) That allows the user to choose the size that fits their ear canal the closest, and there are aftermarket ear tips that allow even more fit options.

[@rustyshakelford1466]

@@profound369 CIEMs have shells that are custom molded to your individual ear canals. This means they go deeper, and are generally more comfortable with a very snug fit that increases isolation. But they are much more expensive, and are harder to buy with longer wait times and you need to have ear molds taken (sometimes multiple times). Modern universal shells have gotten much better with 3D printing, and the ear-analysis companies employ these days has closed the gap a lot, so CIEMs have become less popular since their heyday in the 2010s.

[@milesmccollough5507]

@@profound369 “CIEM” = *custom* in-ear monitor. CIEM-specialized companies generally take special-orders from people who have 3-D scans of their ear canals taken by audiologists. usually these clinics will give you the scan results in an email and you can send the schematics of your ear to the company for them to design an IEM shell that fits literally perfectly to ONLY your ear.

[@TheCoolkriss]

The timing of this video! I just sent my ear impressions to Hidition this week (they received it this Friday) to get myself some Viento-B CIEM. Went to order from them directly, as long as you keep a simple English and understand the process, so far so good.

[@mintyone]

What method of communication did you use? I want to ask some questions before my trip to Korea.

[@TheCoolkriss]

Why do my comments keep getting deleted?!

[@TheCoolkriss]

@@mintyone My comment was deleted, but what I wrote was, by email. I don't recommend you go to them directly tho, Zepplin is certainly the best way.

[@SiegmundX]

Can't wait for Crinacle version of the Viento for 100

[@whyamisick]

I fully agree. I've tried it once at zeppelin and completely fell in love with it. It was pure perfection, even in its universal form. Maybe im just blessed that i could shove it all the way into my ears so that i it sounded more like the ciem version. Everyone has to try it at least once, it's peak. It does not have the most or even the best bass, i think the z1r is still better for bass. However, it was the most cohesive package I've ever heard. Great separation, decent soundstage, godly speed without sounding unnatural and all that with only 4 BAs. Its a lot of hyperbole, but if you get the chance, give it a try. Side note: It was great meeting you at the hangout the other day! Also got to meet precog there as well. Super lucky for me!

[@ivanmiau9280]

What is ciem?

[@Postman00]

@@ivanmiau9280Custom IEM

[@terrol3164]

​@@ivanmiau9280stands for Custom In Ear Monitor Means it's specially molded to the shape of your ears

[@Synthphoney]

Custom in ear monitor

[@WTFA54]

the vibes of these videos from the new storefront are absolutely impeccable

[@whitegoose-k4g]

what a joke, my KZ have 36cores and 64threads with 128drivers. and it only cost 24 dollar.

[@mikouffins]

Bro went to buy IEMs and ended up buying a whole CPU instead.

[@spicychile]

The KZ Threadripper

[@emmanuelmwanzia]

Which KZ is that?

[@bmiamiwai]

In-ear personal monitor systems were pioneered in the early 1980s by Marty Garcia of Future Sonics as a solution for vocal fatigue and stress on musicians' ears from excessively loud stage volumes.[1] His first custom-fit earphones were created for Todd Rundgren in 1982.[1][2

[@ubacow7109]

Werent they originally designed for the beetles to prevent them from going deaf at concerts?

[@Disc_11]

I just bought a pair of Stax SR-L 700 MK2's with an SRM-500T amp, and this "earspeaker" was originally designed in the 80's.... AND IT ROCKS!! Just the texture of instruments, solid detailed bass, HUGE dynamic range so you can really "feel" the music, pretty damn good spatial accuracy (I use them for playing games on my computer, not just music). Honestly, I have absolutely no complaints about them sounds wise. The only complaints I have is that the size of the device is too tall at the smallest adjustment for my head so I have to wear a hat to get the right sound out of them :P Also they're $1700 :' (

[@mintyone]

Great video, i've always been curious about the Viento after reading about it. I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a Viento-R but found it to be a bit too bright for me as mentioned in the video so I ended up selling it off to someone else. I made the switch over to only buying customs to prevent myself from constantly buying and reselling flagship models. My sister is getting married in Korea soon so it'll be a great opportunity to stop by Hidition to pick up a custom Viento.

[@bmiamiwai]

Custom IEMs were made in the early 1985

[@GrB-M]

They weren’t ahead of their time; they’re just one of, if not the, only ones who designed an IEM like a home system rather than a hearing aid. Which doesn’t take away from the apparent (as I’ll probably never hear it)greatness of this IEM. The apparently knew their stuff better than any other IEM designer to date even if only by not falling into the trap of thinking nothing from home audio speaker design applies to IEMs.

[@smtp2jason]

Thank you for the explanation in crossover and stack drivers. That really helps to understand the relationship between marketing and sound XD

[@Zmyszen]

This just confirms what dankpods said: *"Good headphones STAY GOOD"* This applies to all audio, it's not a graphics card that 9 years laters is _mostly_ destined for landfill.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Most thing dont. I can only think of a very select few iems and headphones were good back then, that are still competitive now. Dankpods has no credibility, he is a meme reviewer.

[@paisleepunk]

​@@En_Joshi-Godrezperhaps, but the real winners are still winning many years later (sennheiser hd600 first released in 1997!)

[@squidikka]

Nah, this is just a case of a company with better, more skilled R&D that made something ahead of its time. Most of the gear that was top tier 10 years ago is horribly outdated now. They were good then, doesn't mean they stay good.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@@paisleepunkfor $300. But the sundara is beating it in many areas, and the high end has completely obliterated the hd800, granted, at a higher price (though the ayra is arguably a better choice for less).

[@rustyshakelford1466]

Depends, for IEMs most don't hold up that well past 5 years. And that's the good stuff that at the time was expensive as hell. Cheap or mid-tier IEMs from the early days? (2000s-2010s) are almost all crap by today's standards. Headphones have seen a lot less progression though outside of the very high end and those are relatively new. Sennheiser HD580 from 1991 holds up incredibly well to this day. So does the portapro from 1985 even if it needs some EQ. Same for some of the old AKG and Sony stuff as well. Lots of headphones and speakers from 30+ years ago are still amazing today but IEMs much less so. But then IEMs were a "for work" specialist device meant for monitoring or stage work or as hearing aids until relatively recently.

[@beezlebub3955]

Cool to see you get excited Crin, outwardly excited and passionate. Gives me hope that maybe this little segment may inspire some good quality endeavors

[@zelnyte]

the hidition viento might be one of my fav iem. It's just amazing

[@huntersmark917]

I would like to know if there's a company that makes custom tuned iem's for charts with hearing loss. Or how to accurately look at my hearing loss chart and tune an EQ so I can hear like a normal person. This is widely overlooked and missed by the audio community, in my experience.

[@paultomaszewski1964]

So quality over quantity is the way they went. Wish more would go with this model of manufacturing. Put good shit in, you get good shit out.

[@shahkhan110]

I hope monarch mkII review will come with comparisons with mkIII very soon...

[@Star1933-y8w]

Great explanation on how drivers work and why more does not mean better. Thanks.

[@rustyshakelford1466]

More drivers does mean less distortion, but it comes down to the individual drivers being stacked in the first place and there is definitely a point where it audibly doesn't make a difference to stack even more. It often doesn't make sense to go beyond double stacking, you shouldn't need to for decent drivers anyways. Even with a complex crossover about 4 per side is all you need and you can get away with only 3 or 2 and still get S-tier sound if your drivers are good. But then you get into things like BA "packages", which make it easier to stack because they only have to be wired as single drivers but come designed as dual or quad units. For example the Orchestra Lite has 8 drivers per side but in a 3-way crossover, because the BAs come in packages of 2 bass + 4 mid + 2 high. It works well, and you can even go further with a 4-way crossover like this but not only doubling but adding electrostats or a dynamic somewhere in the mix. That's how you get 10+ driver IEMs. Even those you could argue aren't "too far" (if you can handle the shell size). What is too far is IEMs with giant stacks of 16+ all BA per side, at that point you will never hear any distortion benefits. And at those prices it makes more sense to go the opposite way, to use less drivers and just pump lots of R&D into those specific drivers so you don't have to stack them in the first place. This is how Sony can make S-tier sound with just a 1+1.

[@zirenyth]

I see the monarch mk3 behind and just gonna patiently wait until you do a full review of it

[@Lost1ntheSauc3]

Fatfreq Maestro SE custom is marginally better than the universal, as it's tuned for custom depth with stage performers in mind, like Viento. I know it's expensive but man the custom version is awesome, truly a concert like quality to the presentation. Great separation and air considering the immense bass boost. I can't imagine it's as good overall as the Viento, but man I love it.

[@mehmetgurdal]

Man now I really want to see the graph of this iem on type5128. I want to try one but I'm not able to travel. Seeing a more detailed graph is all I can expect

[@truth-12345.]

I can see the Viento B's price rising up now.

[@genaishivatov1737]

In the case of an armature driver - it is impossible to create good IEMs based on ONE emitter (you need at least two different ones). In the case of planar or dynamic drivers - one is even VERY good !

[@MattiaMMM]

Can you make a video about Bluetooth receiver for iem?

[@catdampawshaker2735]

crin actually uploading weekly right now is actually crazy

[@christiantan5341]

Crin, where did S and S+ go on your tier list??? ...meanwhile, the MKIII Monarch- gimme!!!

[@tednicholson9225]

it would be a Shure KSE1200, or a Audeze LCDi4 tuned to IEF neutral using EQ. Funny thing is, crin actually almost heard that because the MkI cipher cable of the i4 corrected it to something close. He gave it S/S+. The newer cipher cable messed it up, you can see him talk about it in his LCDi3 impressions on his website. So his current answer would be a i4 with its orginal cipher cable. The KSE and the i4 are the only iems that have the potential to be S+ in tuning and technicals.

[@dnegrete3736]

I just wanted to note something interesting I found. At least on the 711 graphs, the *Truthear Hexa* matches up well with the measurements of the Viento-B custom, the only difference being in the treble and air.

[@BestKiteboardingOfficial]

Not to nit pick, but a 2 way has one crossover, a 3 way, 2 crossovers and a 4 way 3 crossovers. Assuming the there's not a high or low pass filter filtering out all the top or jottom

[@dvsvids1970]

If we ever misplace Tom Hardy and need a voiceover for Bane in the Dark Knight series, I vote Crin to do the voiceover

[@SkyChaser0]

I Gotta say wholeheartedly you’re funnier than most comedians

[@CoffeeXmusic]

Currently using a viento B but to be honest I'm not very impressed. Mid is nice and slightly forward, treble can be too much giving some sibilance at times, bass is decent which is sufficient for me. Overall it also feels abit "dry" for me. Currently I also own UM Mest MK2 and Monarch Mk2.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

But its the universal right. He says it sounds like that in the video.

[@davidtriune8028]

custom or no? they should sound very diferent in the sibilance

[@gimmickmusic8827]

You now that Crin loves an IEM when he has the custom version of it.

[@Antdroid]

Viento is King.

[@e2rqey]

3:05 the term you are looking for is known on the "streets" as a "triple OG"

[@grggrgrgg]

Why do the videos from the new studio sound so bad? It's like the treble is turned way down. Old ones sound fine. The hangout looks real cool btw.

[@xBukoJuice]

Would you please consider reviewing the sony wf1000xm5? I genuinely do not trust the mainstream techtubers to review it, and there are not enough experts that review enough tws.

[@oldfag_adventures]

literally buy something else for ⅓rd the price and spend the remaining $200 on a dac or something. $300 for an iem is a joke; higher $$$ ≠ higher quality

[@paololololol]

Thank your Corinne for this amazing review

[@doodlebug4947]

Can't wait for the mk3 review bought the a few days ago Can't wait to get them.

[@sto-humanfriendly]

Recently, I've only seen Symphonium and such with 4 way crossovers

[@DriveKnightJaden175]

Chu 2 full review where?

[@kcpt.gmsh6669]

Still waiting for the ranking of Elysian Gaea

[@maman89]

Damn that UE triple fi sure brings me back, curious what he thinks about the SE846s

[@ilpastor]

Thanks for the explanation

[@maegnificant]

It's now 2100 dollars.

[@lazyreuvin]

I see a Monarch Mk III on your counter there Crin. Can we please get your thoughts in a video? Would love to hear what you think of it. Looking at going way above and beyond budget to purchase a pair (in the Urchin shell of course!) as my end game =)

[@juanblanco7898]

And a 5128/4620 meausrement

[@TerminatoR99]

Is that a Monarch MKIII casually hanging out in background?! :D I didn't even know it was out

[@VIP-ry6vv]

I figured out how the algorithm delivered me to you. What James Hoffman is to coffee snobery, you are to audiophila. And i'm 100% here for it.

[@MykWazowski]

I've demoed the 64 audio U12t twice, everytime I hear it I want to pull the trigger but haven't. Jump to last year I ordered a custom MEST MKII and vowed that when I finally get around to ordering the 64 U12, I'd get the custom fit A12 from 64. This video is giving me second thoughts. Will I sacrifice? From what a 64 audio sales rep told me, sound signature should stay relatively the same between universal vs custom.Can anyone else confirm this?

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Sals reps job is to lie to you. This is expecially true in high end audio.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

People often say the a12 sounds warmer and darker.

[@squidikka]

The car salesman told me the beat up Ford they're trying to sell is a dream car and the best. Because he said so, it must be true and I doubt it's because his literal job is to sell the car. Bro, come on, use common sense.

[@huntersmark917]

I'd like to know what you have to say about status audio. 3 drivers in an anc wireless pair of earbuds with a ridiculous battery life.

[@DenzCasuela]

Didn't know 2014 was 9 years ago

[@ahkme6268]

Just a thought have you tried or had any thoughts about the status between pro? I keep getting ads for it.

[@EG-MAN]

this is some great content

[@CJ34Z]

Hi Crin, have you ever managed to hear Campfire's Supermoon custom iem? What were your thoughts?

[@barbasour]

Crin shits on that

[@ClampyStew]

we back in the hangout

[@MisterRhul]

Do custom IEM's have better isolation?

[@microwave311]

Yes

[@claudiobizama5603]

I would like a video more in depth about custom iems and why the you lean more towards universal

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

He literally said why in this video. Lmao

[@mini-337]

Because most custom iems are shit

[@GR1FF3RK]

still would like your thought one the Toneking Lucifer and the rest of the toneking products

[@noahstroem4277]

i cant seem to find a video of you talking about the samsung buds 2 pro. what are your thoughts on them?

[@ndarugunawan5243]

Would want to buy Viento B someday. But for now, I guess I am content with iSine 10 EQ-d to Viento B sound profile.

[@sunzid.hassan]

Could you please reupload the 7hz Timeless video?

[@theodorezurla496]

Curious about your annihilator 2021 vs 2023 thoughts 💭

[@Omar_ZX]

If it's good it's good

[@tunafishmaki]

is there gonna be a solis2 review?

[@gustavhedberg8056]

Would love your take on the new Jabra elite 10s!

[@Gandi2000]

Hidition Viento sales went up after *nein years later*

[@ControversialOpinion]

Definitely need to work on that gating ☹️

[@waylin778]

Has anyone been able to compare Viento to its competitors like supernova?

[@spicychile]

Antdroid has in his blog. They're very similar.

[@acasccseea4434]

when is the b3 collab......

[@ACE112ACE112]

I misread title and thought it was worst headphone from 10 years ago.

[@derkoekje]

So which are the other sub-bass darlings, would you say?

[@anakinlowground5515]

Hidition is… an ancient company? 2003? It’s ancient? I was born in 2003. Damn that hurts.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

For iems, yes.

[@LeBeautiful]

I feel like before the century (>2000) is considered ancient. In Crinacle terms, its just that they're an OG.

[@RevIsnot]

what about the Etymotic EVO

[@Idea789]

Monarch Mk III 👀

[@suryaaje5245]

but but but can it beat the legendary jh13?

[@larsfrost3643]

yo, could you maybe make a new iem wiyh your partners with 3 or 4 drivers and like TRUTHEAR x Crinacle ZERO drivers but last one handle the bass while the woofer handles 5khz to 21khz? maybe less than 80+-usd? cause why not? TRUTHEAR x Crinacle ZERO is great and like my ears like them but the woofer drivers making cracking noise when i use full volume on my mini amplifier, didnt expect it to happen but it still works cause i turn volume down one click right when it happened, sounds amazing wth 5.1 or 4.1 music files but i need a bit stronger drivers on that woofer,,

[@pfx2259]

Most airy IEM - Viento - properly named

[@samuraijack3843]

Please review moondrop variations

[@desmondmitchell5602]

Can you review the earfun air pro 3.. would love your hear ypur thoughts on it

[@1337WA]

did crinacle think it was already 2024??

[@phuocnguyentuan64]

SOFTEARS STUDIO4 REVIEW WHEN

[@fahryst]

buyer's bias lol. joking aside great video, both entertaining and educating.

[@davidtriune8028]

shit, 1500 bucks tho not including artwork. with artwork and tax maybe $2k? gonna have to start saving up

[@Gamefreak2998]

Odd request but can you review the valve index earphones? I personally love them

[@techarena8281]

Thanks for the video. Just one question what is best budget IEMs for gaming ? I have VK4 og should i change it .

[@rustyshakelford1466]

Put that VK4 in a glass case because they're impossible to get now.

[@familyfriendlyname1241]

My good sir, i am back. please review the moondrop space travel

[@EngrDJDebug]

why dont you create a iem with a usb -c port

[@oldfag_adventures]

the salnotes zero have a cable with usb c

[@blue-eye-white-dragon]

Nobody told me that airtel made iems.

[@TNT93o]

Lmao, $1k being considered "cheap" by Crin is funny

[@mini-337]

Because it is. Look at the price of the other iems on A and S tier ranking

[@MayankJairaj]

Moondrop Variations ($500) might be my upper limit lol

[@darukaru]

Just look at the price of a set of high end speakers.

[@rustyshakelford1466]

It is for an S-tier CIEM, look at the competition

[@squidikka]

@@darukaru Comparing speakers with iems is only something someone who has no idea what they're talking about would say. Theyre' not the same thing, the same way headphones are not the same thing. Compare iems with iems only.

[@sjqideez6626]

Thanks for this, good to know. #Nine

[@Oakbing]

$1499 now to get one without the switch... what.

[@kaeroseon]

Custom made in Korea and sold exclusively by 1 seller in Singapore means high margins to not be sold at a massive lost. That's just my theory of what's happening though.

[@spinkey4842]

NIIIIIINNEE!!!!

[@CouZer]

Nice

[@cooldudemcswagcooldudemcsw4697]

This IEM is as old as Five Nights at Freddy’s

[@DriveKnightJaden175]

Says 7, annotates 9, puts 10 in title, which one is it?

[@Fataha22]

Yes

[@h_enrix_92]

U12t went to where it belongs.