The Worlds Flattest Shooting Bullet

[@MLFreese]

This is literally the best channel on KZbin for cartridge specific info.

[@Huckleberry_Hunter]

Check out the big game hunting blog and Alaskan Ballistics. They have great info also.

[@ryleeestevez4633]

I love this guy for experience content. I’m a facts guy but sometimes just listen to a dad who wants the best for you

[@wierdalien1]

​@Rylee estevez no truer words

[@dankcincy]

Thank you for stretching the range out to be able to get an honest comparison.

[@gimpyRW]

For lefty rifles my wife highly recommends the Tikka. They come in a variety of calibers and have a very smooth action and shoot at less then 1moa right out of the box.

[@Victor.Oliveira129]

For Non lefty's I'd recommend a Tikka . Great rifles.

[@Snailz5]

That’s why I like shooting copper. Tough construction allows for similar or better terminal performance with lighter faster bullets. The additional velocity typically wins out in most hunting situations.

[@jacktrout5807]

At long ranges bullet design is paramount. It's what the bullet does in the trans-sonic phase that determines accuracy beyond super-sonic speeds. One method is drive them really fast as to extend the supersonic phase. Another method is to design a projectile that remains stable through the trans- sonics phase.

[@ecleveland1]

Windage is always the variable that I want to defeat, because it can change multiple times the further you go. If you are only picking a bullet for hunting, go with one that has great terminal ballistics at the maximum distance you will be shooting and the one with the best ability to beat the wind. For me that's 500 yards for whitetail deer. Those two characteristics are going be a compromise in your bullet choice. Don't sweat the small numbers and don't choose a bullet based on some range you are never going to shoot.

[@thecheapshot1065]

This is great advice. I have never shot past 4 so I'm buying a do everything rifle and I'm constantly reminding myself while selecting a cartridge. I'm set on 6.5prc, 280AI, 7prc. I hand load so as long as I can get a hundred cases of brass I'm not concerned with ammo available

[@trevorkolmatycki4042]

Agreed! To meet the criteria you speak of, I chose 270WIN with 129gr Barnes LRX at 3090fps MV @ 0degC Purrrfect whitetail load to 500m limit… with a 300m MPBR. The old 270WIN is just as relevant in 2023 as it was in 1925.

[@ziggystardust1122]

500yds for whitetail...that places you in a category of maybe 5% or less of all whitetail hunters. At that range, with even the perfect cartridge choice, one shot one kill would be a difficult challenge for the majority of hunters. Getting it consistently right takes skills most hunters simply don't have.

[@trevorkolmatycki4042]

@@ziggystardust1122 Yes, 100% agreed. 500 is crazy long range. I have not yet harvested deer past 350yd. My longest harvest is a Cow Moose at 440yd. I have taken up long range target shooting practice out to 800m at the range so some of that skill building is rubbing off on the hunting side. Like now at the range, 400m first round hits in fair conditions on 8" targets is routine and first round hits on 12" targets at 500m is very reasonable, 300m feels like a chip shot now. But I must say... things are waay different in real hunting scenarios, like a 300m shot on a deer in last light conditions is no joke... And things get real squirrelly when the buck fever gets a hold of your endocrine system! I don't know if I will ever encounter an ethical opportunity to harvest game at 500m... conditions will have to be right, with solid support and high probability of recovery before I will take that on!... Meantime I will certainly set up the gear and train the skills for it... if nothing else just for fun. Getting first round hits at crazy long range on steel targets at the range with your regular hunting gear is pretty fun stuff... I really enjoy all the gear and math involved... I'm a bit of a nerd that way. Cheers.

[@ziggystardust1122]

@@trevorkolmatycki4042 Well said Trevor. "Fair Chase", is not a static term. It changes from hunter to hunter and in scenario to scenario. Only the individual, in the moment, can know. IMO, few succeed.

[@Paladin1873]

It's relatively easy to dial in bullet drop, but wind is often a WAG, so your point is well taken. One other factor is the penetration potential of the heavier projectile, but this only matters if you hit the target. At the ranges I shoot, any of these rounds will work, but I tend to favor the heaviest bullets thanks to decades of reading Elmer Keith.

[@Βόρειο_Σέλας]

I guess if you are doing target shooting to crazy distances like 2Km then the high BC bullets are great. I use mine for hunting and never shot at anything further than 300m but mostly 100-250 metres. Great video by the way.

[@Greyzonecompliant]

I agree. And i have not found a scope that can se through the trees. Nature sets the boundaries. But spray paint an old frying pan and place it 300+ meters away shoot it with the 22lr. That is my long range experience 👍 And its the worst bc bullet i have.

[@Βόρειο_Σέλας]

@@Greyzonecompliant Once when I was at the range, sighting in my rifle for new cartridge I was convinced by a target shooter to try the gong at 500m. I did and after 6 bullets I hit it, but that is about it for long range.

[@jakejuvland5147]

Maintained velocity is also an advantage with higher bc bullets in an extended range hunting situation. Certain bullets need certain minimal velocity to reliability expand.

[@roddecker1900]

Heavier

[@chrisaccashian4308]

Ron, Thanks for all your videos and info on any and every cartridge out there. Your knowledge and advice is the gospel. Thanks again for all your shared wisdom.

[@mr.skeptical3071]

I'm a bow hunter and shoot very little with guns, but I absolutely love this channel!!!!

[@googleeyeseyes4033]

Great episode Ron, thanks again for great content and education for new, non expert loader.

[@mqeqeshe1]

Time of flight, or average velocity is all that matters when it comes to flat shooting. All bullets drop at the same rate so the one that hits the target first will be the one that drops least. Light bullets start out fast but slow down quickly. Long, sleek bullets start out a bit slower but maintain their speed better, giving them a better average velocity at long range. So to determine which bullet is shooting flattest you must know the distance involved.

[@p39483]

Velocity squared isn't a linear operation therefore the vertical and horizontal drag components do not vary independently with their respective component velocities. Greater horizontal velocities do aerodynamically damp drop velocity via drag. I don't want to write a vector drag equation here because people who read that are capable of writing it. The gist is that you can't factor velocity.x out of drag.y, and higher velocity.x results in higher drag.y

[@tlloyd9325]

I tend to the middle to light end of the scale with premium bullets. A coyote doesn’t matter much to me but a 150” whitetail buck does. Remember the CHEAPEST yet most IMPORTANT part of any hunt is the bullet you send down range. Make it a very good bullet! Personally I like Barnes.

[@404nitro]

Excellent as always Ron. One thing that I think is worth discussing when talking ballistics, and that is BC's and whether or not you are actually getting what the manu's claim. You can check that with a Lab Radar and a few of the other chrono's out now. Many will be surprised to find that the BC they think they are getting is not what they get in the real world. Too many variables to consider, not to mention variables that change with atmospheric conditions, elevation etc. IME bullets don't al change their BC's at the same rate due to conditions either, so what happens to one bullet doesn't necessarily translate over to the next fired on the same day etc.

[@stefanocappella9612]

Here in Canada flat is elementary.... Kentucky windage and elevation is all I ever needed. Lol. I would absolutely love to do any hunt with you in alberta canada Mr. Spomer.

[@diggernash1]

The older I get, the lighter I want my hunting rigs to be. Give me enough cartridge to do the job in a light package.

[@jimbro650]

Love all your videos Ron, been watching you for some time now especially when you where on those TV shows 👍🇺🇸🗽

[@jay-by1se]

I just love this channel.

[@Jeff_Seely]

This is why I do not go out of my way to acquire a 190gr vld bullet. Because for it to benefit in bullet drop, my target must be beyond a mile and I don't have those distances available to me. These vld bullets are only beneficial for ELR enthusiasts. They really don't even give 90% of the shooters that I know many benefits in wind drift either. My go-to target bullets are decided by my groups at 400 yards max. This is really a great video Ron. You deserve ample credit for covering this topic. I hate seeing guys spending lots of money on products by making uninformed decisions. It happens a heck of a lot.

[@dalewells5880]

So within practical hunting ranges, a .257 Roberts with a 120 grain bullet or a .300 Win mag with a 150 grain bullet will kill a deer just as dead as a 6.5 creedmore with a super long, high BC bullet. Unless of course, you’re hunting in a wind storm. Very informative content, thank you sir.

[@TeensierPython]

Love the thought experiment. It’s all about balancing out the characteristics you need to achieve the objective.

[@ryane6719]

Wait till Ron finds out about the 9mm, it’ll blow the lungs out of any mammal.

[@orr89rocz]

Yup windage is more important than drop at long range. Wind calls are harder to make than a laser range finder. Plus, high bc will retain more velocity which helps in terminal performance. But if most of your hunting is below 500 yrds, it doesnt matter as much, shoot whatever is most accurate for you.

[@Paul_305]

Valuable for alpine and skittish plains game. I failed in africa with 140 frangible and wish i could take this video back to 22 years ago!

[@lrac7751]

The .243 pretty much covers all my rifle needs, so when I see things like “190 grains at 3000fps”. That’s an artillery piece lol, dam

[@susquehannaoutdoorsman3804]

243 is a good rifle, I grew up shooting 30-30, but I bought a 308 because of availability of ammo, took two doe opening day with it and I was like well they can't get any deader than that haha, and that was only 150 grains, it's crazy to think about how much energy would be behind something bigger yet

[@nmelkhunter1]

Think elk and mulies at extended ranges. Say 350 to 400 yards; especially in windy conditions.

[@lrac7751]

@@nmelkhunter1 I completely understand the need for a cartridge like that. I grew up in a state that did not allow center fire rifles for deer, only varmints, then moved to western Washington where I hunt for 150lb blacktail in an actual rainforest. So from my experience, that’s a howitzer

[@nmelkhunter1]

@@lrac7751 Yep. Fire mission, fire mission! 🤠

[@Clearanceman2]

The president of the united states says the 5.56mm/.223 is five times faster than any other round in the world so that has to be the flattest shooting, right? LOL

[@whiskeykilmer1866]

Hahaha, Dementia Joe lies just as much as the Orange-faced Buffoon.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Those people should be ashamed for abusing the elderly.

[@theangrycanuck8331]

I think I need a refund then, I don't seem to be getting this base level performance.

[@igy648]

The senile poopy pants in chief also said the 9 mm blows the lung right out of the body and advocates shooting criminals in the leg. 😒 Wtf

[@iamnotpaulavery]

Na... I'll stick with the 9mm because the President says that bullet can literally *- literally blow both lungs completely out of the body!* That's the one to go with right there! LOL!

[@GRAE_GHOST]

Didn't know i needed this video. Recently bought a 300rum over a 300prc & seeing these numbers makes me feel more confident with what ill be doing with mine. If it takes that distance to change that much with grains of a bullet im glad i didnt buy a gun that would've only been able to use Hornady ammo since no one else makes 300prc yet.

[@nt3523]

Good choice. Been loading and shooting 7rum for years and love it. My buddy has the 300 and I've spent some time behind it. Both very accurate.

[@chrisp308]

Space lasers designed to take out alien balloons will be next year's new hunting cartridge craze 🤣 we have become absolutely ridiculous...

[@Hollywood41642]

55gr out of my 300 RUM.. 105grs of RL25.. 5,250 fps the bullets were machined out of Inconel 718. Good up to 1300 °F.

[@lrac7751]

But was it accurate?

[@Liamisdead99]

Bet that will go thru a 1/2 inch ar 500

[@dundonrl]

I saw a guy who fired a 55 gr 22 cal out of a 30-378 Wby mag (sabot) not sure the velocity or accuracy but I'm sure it was absolutely SCREAMING!

[@nt3523]

Gotta be a sabot.

[@Hollywood41642]

@@Liamisdead99 Don't kno ? the bullets where machined out of Inconel 718, Good up to 1300 °F ..

[@CaptainCreampie69]

Essentially at a mile (1760 yards) is when the heaviest is able to maintain a flatter trajectory. I am pretty sure most people who hunt ethically aren’t smacking elk that far. Now in a military setting or plinking steel it may be more applicable. I will stick to hog slapping at sub 100 yards with a 308, 6.5 creedmoor, 300 blackout supersonic and 223 monolithic bullets.

[@Honkers716]

Check out the 8.6 blackout for hogs

[@Magnum_Express]

As a hunter and not as much a "shooter" , retained energy is probably the only thing I concern myself with as far as ammo goes. I'm sure the bigger bullets have more energy at all ranges, but even then that's not always a given.

[@MrGsteele]

Wind deflection is primarily a function of bullet mass; drop is a function of time in the air, and is independent of mass, as Galileo proved. So what we are measuring in drop is really time to a given distance - the first one there has dropped the least, period. As the lighter bullet's momentum is used up by aerodynamic drag, it slows until it takes longer to get out to the longer distances than the initially slower, but higher momentum heavy bullets, so it has been in the air longer, and has dropped more. Wind deflection, however, is a function of the mass of the bullet and its lateral coefficient of drag times area. Assuming the drag coefficients of the heavier and lighter bullets are ~identical when looked at from the side, then the surface area times the coefficient determines the area that the crosswind has to act on, against the mass of the bullet. If the mass is greater, it takes more force to move the bullet sideways. F=MA or in this case, A=F/M. More mass for a given force means less acceleration laterally. For a given sideways wind force, the heavier bullet resists being pushed more than the lighter bullet. Add to that the fact that at extreme distances the heavier bullet has been in the air for less time because it caught up and passed the lighter bullet, and the total force pushing it has also been less over the shorter time over which the heavier bullet has been pushed. Less force against a heavier mass means less drift. It's all Newtonian, and just arithmetic.

[@farmerwayne1404]

Nice job, R.S.! God Bless!!!

[@kennybrandow4994]

Wind deflection is a factor of mass . Length and density matters, dense and short will deflect less because of its minimal side profile.

[@funkla65]

When I was a kid, rangefinders sucked. The Ranging 1000 was about the best portable RF available, and its accuracy diminished rapidly after a quarter mile. So, I got a .220 Swift. Different game nowadays.

[@dtheguy]

Hello Ron , it’s good to be back

[@lcee6592]

Such interesting and informative information on ballistics.

[@dundonrl]

I looked up the 26 Nosler, loaded by Double Tap firing a 129 gr Accubond Long Range and with a muzzle velocity of 3604 fps (fired out of a Nosler M48 Patriot with 26" bbl) they are saying "The flattest flying round out to 1200yds in existence."

[@lifeanddaily6583]

Flattest shooting is a great topic Mr.Spomer however you may be running a small risk of accidentally getting into a discussion about the "CORIOLIS EFFECT"... 😂... with all due respect brother...you are the best man...

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

I doubt I'm the best, but at least I'm smart enough to not tackle coriolis again for awhile. Thanks Life and Daily!

[@dmg4415]

I have the recipe for the ultimate flat shooting round. A 6 feet barrel, a .50 BMG necked down to 6.5mm and a 200 grain boat tail solid bronze bullet.

[@wilrohan2985]

I have noticed this with 6.5 Creedmoor and 130-grain Nosler RDF bullets. The high BC Nosler may not offer the wind deflection advantage of the 153-grain Hornady A-tip, but it is a flat shooter!

[@allen4758]

If you haven't tried the 162gr A-max in the 7 mag for whitetails , I highly recommend you try it

[@jamesburnett7085]

So, if you are a professional sniper shooting military targets at combat distances, you that want that long bullet. But this was an eye-opener for me, as it applies to hunting situations. I can't even SEE a deer 1500 yards away!

[@judahlion5826]

Excellent video!

[@michaelrunnels7660]

All bullets fall to the ground at 9.8 meters per second per second, whether they are not they are moving at all or going mach 5. A bullet fired from a level barrel at any speed on level ground will hit the ground at the precise instant that a bullet dropped from from the muzzle of the barrel by hand. That's assuming the bullet is dropped at the same instant that the other bullet is fired. If 2 bullets are fired at the same instant using the above scenario, the bullet with the faster muzzle velocity will always have a flatter trajectory.

[@Ohyeahspinach]

Just seeing the intro leaves way for the 300 WM vs 300 prc if using new school ELR BT hybrids.

[@rogerbartels5223]

One half the velocity squared RULES!!! The highest velocity equals the flattest shooting. Gravity works the same on a 35 grain bullet or a 50 pound rock. Have a great day!!!

[@leeadams5941]

If you are hunting normal distances, all this is moot, what's normal, for me in the South probably not more than a couple of hundred yards, longer over a bean field maybe, and a Nosler Partition always works. A 30.06 will hunt anything Ill come across in the lower 48 so Ill go back to my grandfather's old saying, If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[@tmurray1972]

Mr Spomer, what twist rate would you recommend for a 22-250? I know it will depend on bullet weights, but if you were to pick an all around good twist rate for a “one” and done rifle, what would choose. Thanks.👍🏻

[@johngoodwin2768]

Hi Ron, Love your presentations and tone, very soothing to listen to. I just wanted point out something that I am not sure of. I don't believe any of these rounds that you are using for your examples drop that much at 300 yards. Especially driving them at those speeds. My 308 with 155gr doing 2600 fps only drops 4.75" at 300 yards.

[@glockparaastra]

I need the best wind-bucking bullet for this Saturday! I'll be shooting up to 1120m in 20-30mph winds!

[@ricksshop]

I've found if you are setting up a rifle for MPBR, you need to pick a SPBT bullet that your rifle can drive above 3000 fps. For me, that's a .380 G1 bc at 3150 fps. Leave the high bc stuff for +400 yards.

[@dantyack1059]

That 140@3550 would be a laser flat hunting round! what would the MPBR be on that load with an 8” vital?

[@Suslord907]

this videos about flattest shooting ones. i want to know what’s your opinion on which bullet type and grain is best for hunting with the 338 lapua magnum? i recently bought one for Alaskan Moose. honestly have no clue what bullet i should run. barrel has a 1-9.3 twist rate. thanks Ron your videos help out a lot.

[@vincentbearinger2242]

I have an M1A that I usually shoot the 147-grain out of I have the 150 at the 180 for hunting I want to start trying the 168 grain and the 175 see what the better projectory is thank you for this video

[@wesadrian6981]

Eargesplitten Loudenboomer😂.

[@dundonrl]

Gotta love that cartridge, just for the name alone! 378 Weatherby necked down to 22 caliber.

[@sbowyer525]

Since this channel is mostly about hunting, how about using hunting bullets like Swift Scirocco, Nosler Accubond, Barnes LRX, or Hornady CX - high BC, but bonded or monolithic?

[@nymeriagloves3957]

still kinda counter intuitive that a longer projectile with more surface area thats slower so in the wind even longer is the one that drifts less.

[@gearhead3125]

I could use some help deciding a caliber for white tail hunting I used a friend's 6.5 creedmoor this past year but I'm trying to decide what caliber I want but I don't want to damage to much meat any recommendations and do you think rib meat is worth it on kansas whitetail

[@WillyK51]

Wouldn't go heavier than 180 Grns with a 7 MM. Surprised a the performance of the 140 Grns. 👍

[@Honkers716]

This has been my dilemma. 7mm goes to 180gr. 30cal goes to 200-220gr. Then a .338 is too much

[@untermench3502]

It's all about BC and time to target. Unless you find a way to defeat the acceleration of gravity, all bullets have the same thing in common.

[@toddpatik8834]

As a kid I grew up in Wyoming and my dad used 30-06 for mule dear and 300win mag for elk and he said a 30 cal.bullit was the flatest shooting round, was he mistaken?

[@nowherespecial6780]

Do you have any videos out on the 338. I purchased A338 ruger pdecision I absolutely love it. Recoil to me is next to I think knowing that you have a rifle that can shoot 2 miles with ease. With almost no recoil is very impressive. What's not impressive. A $120 for a Box of Hornady eld 285 grain .

[@harperramsey1305]

Is there much of a different between the 7mm rum and the 7 mm stw ?

[@nt3523]

The Rum has a bit more case capacity and the stw is belted.

[@roccofortura2468]

I wish I could spend one day with you...the questions you could answer

[@titomish5914]

$500 and you are in

[@phild9813]

The answer is always “it depends.” If your definition of long range is 300 yards, then a lighter for caliber bullet will be the flattest shooting. If your definition is 1000 yards, then a high BC bullet will be flatter shooting.

[@Matthewzilla]

He literally just showed that at 1000 yards the faster bullets were still flatter.

[@danielkearney3295]

love this stuff!

[@carlosugarte1450]

Kind of short video. Gonna have to watch it twice! (Spoiled subscriber I guess...) Thanks for the as always great content Ron.

[@bignlittleoutdoorstexascam3031]

can we get a little on the 22 Creedmoor bin thinking on geting one just dont know if its worth it

[@mxsm2ps]

Ron, what software do you use for your load comparisons? Love your channel!

[@jackunderwood6315]

hey man, as someone that just got there hunter safety done and looking for a rifle can you give a few suggestions for a "best all around rifle and cartridge " for around $1000

[@44hawk28]

I think you're missing a couple of cartridges and bullets. 108 ygraine fired out of an 8 mm Remington Magnum approaching 3400 or more feet per second for the 180 grain round but probably better would be the same case neck down 27 mm and fired in the seven mm shooting times Westerner. I think that shooting times Westerner would take the cake from what you're discussing. As I believe that you would be able to drive 175 grain bullet upwards of four thousand feet per second.

[@nihiluskarr2717]

Out of curiosity. Do you have any preferred bonded bullets (especially in .30 cal)? If so, do you find it performs better, worse, or the same than a similar weight monolithic copper bullet at the 1800 to 2300 fps velocities? I'm curious because I have thought about getting some Barnes TTSX-BT bullets, but they don't seem to do as well as bonded lead bullets at lower velocities from what I'm finding online. Just figured I'd ask, since you're more experienced with the different brands and product lines than most.

[@andrewmccann7572]

Ron and Ryan from the vortex podcast should do a podcast

[@adelarsen9776]

6.5 Swede. Need I say more ?

[@michaelpcoffee]

The flattest shooting is necessarily the fastest and most aerodynamic.

[@omen1784]

The fastest bullet was me bolting out of my girls house when her daddy pulled up.

[@ledermanrobert]

Hi Ron, Thanx for all the great content! 👌 I love your channel. What do you think would be the best cartridge for hunting capercaillie in the north of Sweden? I am a normally built male 😉 184 cm and 82 kg. Ranges up to 400 m. Today I use 6,5x55. I’m thinking of building a specific rifle for this winter hunting. Semi heavy barrel, .243 Win? .260 Rem? 6 mm Creedmore? Your thoughts please if you have time. 🙏

[@peterhert9350]

Hello , last year I used my 223 ,19mm Barrel, Barnes ttsx. This year the same gun with Lapua naturalis. 6XC for next year.

[@tylerchronister2940]

What about the crazy rounds like the .375CT and the .408CT?

[@thecheapshot1065]

What should I get guys and girls? Im getting ready to order a Remington 700 LR in 6.5prc or 7mm PRC it's a 26" barrel with a heavy contour or a Browning x bolt LR or western hunter one with a 26" other a 24" not the same heavy contour but both have a muzzle device. Again 6.5 PRC, 7 prc or 280AI. Ayhan load Samuel availability and cost is not really a concern and I'm going to need to use layaway so a 6-month weight isn't an issue either. All between 900 and 1200. Awesome thetic stocks which I'm not a big fan of a rather heavy grade a or better walnut but what are you going to do? It's a do everything target, varmint, elk rifle

[@peterhert9350]

From Europe. I get in two weeks a danish rifle Schultz&Larsen in 6,5-284 with a second Barrel in 6XC. Easy to change.

[@mopardoctor9966]

Just get a Weatherby 30-378 and end the argument of who is the top dog.

[@slackleashdogtraining3598]

5.56 might be faster than superman; or maybe it was judged by a very slow mind.

[@mrgruisinge]

How can you figure the maximum range? .22 lr used to warn you that the range was one mile. There has to be a maximum range for the that 190 grain bullet launched at 3000 fps. Longer if it is launched at 3100 fps. Seems like I remember the 16" naval guns could shoot 25 miles. I think they were about 2700 fps and 2200 pounds. Not for sure on the weight.

[@fillmorehillmore8239]

".22 lr used to warn you that the range was one mile. " This is still taught. I suppose if you shoot at a 30 degree angle upward and over a mountain where it also falls into a valley it would be very dangerous.

[@dankcincy]

Keep in mind, you're trading speed for barrel life.

[@fillmorehillmore8239]

Friction creates wear and tear.

[@dundonrl]

True, but when I shoot a barrel out on a rifle I like, I'll get ahold of PacNor and get a new barrel.

[@nt3523]

@@dundonrl Bingo! Then I can get a custom barrel that'll spin 200 grainers and use the case capacity in my 7rum. Brilliant

[@blairsimpkins3505]

I thing the .408 Cheytac destroys that with just as 2.11" at 300 yards and still making 6,800 ft/lbs.

[@jacobmeyer1842]

45-70 🤣

[@drocfox9771]

22.250 270win is up there but I’d say the 22.250

[@mehicanbls1526]

Need more weight to maintain velocity at distance

[@mehicanbls1526]

243, 25-06 6.5-06 ll have much better sectional density than the 22-250

[@5jjt]

Which bullet design hits the hardest?

[@FindersKeepers88]

I'd try longer bullets.... as long as they are good in my 35 rem

[@thomasdaum1927]

Well Ron you have proven that the truth is not always pleasant ! The 7 STW , 7 Ultra , 28 Nosler will shoot the pants off the 7 PRC with a 140 gr bullet ! We don’t need all these new cartridges !…… Thanks for running the numbers , now we know !

[@DSMattitude]

Sooo i may need to do some of my own calculations. But i may be switching from a 180 to a 140 in my 284 win with a 29" barrel.

[@IHWKR]

Waiting for someone to put a .22lr chambered into a 700NE

[@klingerwvu5253]

.177 American BB out of a red rider is the fastest....sorry that was my inner child blurring out

[@jrd8640]

So basically it comes down to the distance your shooting

[@jimklemens5018]

6.5 - 300 Weatherby with a 130 grain bullet is the flattest.

[@matthewlyness8161]

7mag for the win

[@lukeprince7690]

What about the 244 h&h mag

[@johndoe3947]

Ron , how did bullet speed end up in FPS and not mph ?

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

Bullet travel in fraction of a second or in Seconds . There is no sense in measuring bullet velocity in Per Hour. A 6.5 Cm or 6 mm ARC only take 1.5 second to reach 1000 yards or close to 1000 meter . Thus muzzle velocity are measured in foot per second or meter per second .

[@sleepymornings]

Flattest shooting bullet 🤔 - is that when you squeeze the muzzle in a vice and fire a light jacketed bullet through it?