The Worlds Most Crooked Railroad - The Uintah Railway

[@genesismanning7403]

My 5 year old son wanted me to write this to you :) "I like Trains, thank you for making these train videos" He has learned so much watching your videos and tells everyone we know about the information and history he has learned here. I wanted to let you know what a giant celebrity you have become in our house. We have gone on lots of trains, my son has been a fan since he could walk. Rio Grand is what he wants to do for his Birthday, ever since he saw your videos about the Rio Grand! He thought it was very important we message you today :) thnkyou!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’m so sorry I missed seeing this!! I get so many comments and sometimes I just miss things. Sorry!!! Hopefully you see this!!! Thanks!!!

[@glitterresin]

@@ToyManTelevision That's ok! He's 11 now, still watches your channel all the time and still loves trains :) thanks for your reply. It will make his day :) -genesis

[@Zantandar]

Loved this video. The interation between the husband and wife make it really special

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS!!!!!!

[@robertemmons2260]

Last week (January 31st 2019) I was getting tires put on my Jeep when I had noticed a jar of metal junk that has been found in flat tires. I had mentioned that they're missing a railroad spike. The younger salez associate had said that "there are no railroads around here." I had remarked that there use to be, and it was called the Uintah Railway that had ran from Mack, Colo. and went to Dragon, Watkins, and Rainbow. At that time the older sales associate had told the young gal that "yes, actually there was" and had mentioned that she was born in Rainbow! She had also spoke of how her mother would put her onboard and travel back and forth on the old Baldwins. Her name is Lillian. She works at Walmart in Vernal, UT. It was a pleasure, and an honor, to have been able to speak to a person who was from there, and to share her memories of the old railway. EDIT; correction, Lillian was born in Vernal and had lived in Rainbow as a child for a few years. She is the grandmother of a good friend of mine. She had just turned 80 this month (March 2020) and is still working a full 40 hour shift at Walmart!

[@stephensmith799]

That 7% grade on a hard turn is astonishing. Thanks for showing it. You make a good team. Keep 'em coming...

[@ToyManTelevision]

It seems the curve was a bit tighter when they ran only Shays, but to get the articulated locos around they widened them. By a few feet! Still making a 180 in half a football field!

[@stephensmith799]

Toy Man Television Hah. I have the LGB Uintah caboose. The loco will have to wait!

[@stephensmith799]

TIGHTER?! Strewth....

[@atari67]

This channel deserves more exposure. Great stuff!

[@ToyManTelevision]

atari67 thanks! You can help us with exposure by sharing it with everybody you know and even a few people you don't know wouldn't hurt

[@kerridillon3120]

Another 4 star☆☆☆ video Sunday with a very interesting story! I love learning about all these trains & the grand tour of the GarageMahal! Dale & Karyn ...you two are so much dang fun!!!

[@carlsorensennb7c750]

Wow, I watched this 5 minutes after you posted it. That is a record for me. I enjoyed seeing the Unitah RR. I didn't realize the Mallet was so small. Too bad the Sumpter didn't save one to operate, wouldn't that had been fun.

[@jonheller2307]

another well produced slice of history. great job. thanks.

[@karynfelix-the-Cat]

So much fun looking for artifacts! Difficult to believe that these little trains ran through such unforgiving country... I'm reminded of the childhood story, of "The Little Engine That Could"..... and these articulated engines certainly did!!

[@guytressler7455]

Very,very good video. I was born in October 1940 on the Bald Eagle mts in, pa.. about 40 feet from the penncy railroad. I was born at home. I think the first word I ever said was, TRAIN. I still enjoy trains. Keep up the good work, Toy Man and Mrs.

[@ToyManTelevision]

WOW!!! My Aunt and Great Grandmother lived on opposite sides of the UP yards, with the D and RG main next to that. The road crossing was protected by a guy in a little shanty, he'd sit there reading Life or Look until a train came and then step out with his flag. We would walk across the crossing, about 18 tracks, if we took a bit too much interest in the view, or lanterns, which happened often, we would be scolded and told to move on... Odd... That still happens 60 years later. Still getting kicked off the right of way.

[@TomsTrainsandThings]

Very interesting video. Loved that you can walk through the ruins and still find artifacts.

[@johnbeck3270]

The LGB articulated loco is slightly undersized the drivers were 42” Bachmann’s big hauler, which is a model of the Tweetsie 4-6-0 has 44” drivers. By narrow gauge standards these were huge. The C&S considered buying these when the Uintah ceased operations. They declined when they would have to practically rebuild their entire line. My Dad hauled Gilsonite by truck out on the old Uintah’s grade, after the railroad was abandoned.He told me he had never seen so many flat tires from railroad spikes. It was shipped in bags. Later, American Gilsonite transported it by bulk tank trucks to Graig, Co. bagged and loaded into rail cars. Loved the video, it’s really fun seeing places near where I grew up and know and heared about so much.

[@erikcornelison6985]

I own the "Uintah Train Station" you mentioned in this video. Come visit us in Mack.

[@cklosi]

Nice! My great grandmother Kelly used to own it

[@robertemmons2260]

I'd love to stop by and visit sometime.

[@LarryWGrant-dw6jo]

Great episode! Really enjoyed seeing the Uintah Railway - - or what's still left of it. Also enjoyed seeing the LGB model of the Uintah mally.

[@bernierodriguez662]

This was a great video, so much info I've always loved trains. I grew up around southern Pacific yard in El Serino Alhambra area. On my dad's side the men work the track gangs, shop Forman track walkers. My mother side the women work on passengers cars linen , Curtains house keeping, this is when Santa Be still had passenger service. Amtrak isn't even close to the service SantaFe railroad gave. Oh and the food they served was just out of this world. I've been watching the channel for a while keep up the great work would love to meet you and Karen at a train show. We have train show and museum here in Perris California in october, the pumpkin train. Thanks again

[@46619TAB]

Hey guys, thanks for another GREAT video! After returning from our long distance Chicago to LA trip and back on Amtrak's Texas Eagle, I found myself watching railroad documentary films on KZbin, the railroads have quite a history! And then I began finding yours. NICE film, thanks guys!!

[@jwrailve3615]

I’ve got ZERO CLUE how I’ve never subscribed after half a decade of watching most all of your uploads. That crazy grading and sharp radius a curve up the mountain didn’t even look possible to be once for a railway it just seems impossible and the engineers had to have ….z of steel for such a task. Sure wish I’d get more time to travel to these mountain and logging abandoned railroads.

[@jingles9657]

I'm glad I finally found this again, I remembered some railroad with an absolutely insane grade as I was looking into Colorado Narrow Gauge stuff, turns out I roll through Grand Junction alot, wonder if I can fit a semi truck in their parking lot to go check it out!

[@jhen529]

Absolutely enjoy every one of your videos, keep it up guys!!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!! Heading back there this summer

[@drummerboy1390]

I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm in the UK, so it's great to find out about places I'd not normally get to see. I'm also a history graduate and love the bits of history you put into your videos, even the obscure, middle of nowhere places. The more obscure the better it is for me. I'm also laid up with a badly broken leg and can't get out the house, so you and your good Lady are helping me no end. Keep 'em coming. Tom.

[@ToyManTelevision]

GET WELL!!

[@timothyboles6457]

The Uintah is one of my favorite railroads. I have the book. Just crazy grades and ridiculous curves

[@ToyManTelevision]

We’re planning to drive the route again in a few weeks.

[@SleeTheSloth]

Just a quick note. As my health issues are flaring up today and I feel pretty lousy, Once aging I'm re watching some of your videos and finding comfort in losing my self ion them. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@alanhardman2447]

Well, here's a new addition to my bucket list! Time to go home - I have a 13-year-old grandson who LOVES old trains and railroads, and I was born in Duchesne, UT a couple years ago... Seems like a worthwhile trip to me, since I haven't been back to Duchesne since about 1972 or 3.

[@ToyManTelevision]

You need 4 wheel drive for the pass. The rest is easy

[@robertfarquhar1265]

Hi i drove it in a dry time in a hurtz reant a car toyota i think it was,if MR.Hurtz had have know he would have keeled over hah Bob Farquhar

[@tjorgensen2007]

Looks like fun to walk and find artifacts along the way. Your videos are always great!!! Thank you for sharing.

[@JD_79]

Really was a fascinating railway. Grew up overnight hauling such an odd product in the middle of nowhere up some of sharpest and steepest rails. As a resident of the area I've been collecting models waiting until I have the time/room to build my Uintah Railway layout. From a modeler's perspective, the fact that they ran an assortment of odd ball equipment just makes it so fun.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Weird and interesting. Gotta love that!!

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

I did not know you were a treasure hunter but wow what a treasure and a heck of an adventure thank you so much for bringing us along

[@darthmurdoch]

Thanks for explaining the water cars my lgb collection was wondering

[@gregsmith1719]

Another great history video - very interesting! Please keep it up!

[@bigwoz78]

Just fascinating, you two are the best. Thanks for sharing

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks for watching. Do share if you think about it. Always looking for more viewers. Thanks!!

[@sgtwylde1996]

I'll probably grab one of those mallets for my garden railroad in live steam, I just love the look of them

[@jonnybeck6723]

Charming, insane even but but never boring... cheers

[@ToyManTelevision]

There was the one... But we try to not be boring.

[@suneolsson9815]

ABSOLUTE always TUM ups for all films Best Regards From Good Old Bad Cold Sweden

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi! Check out garagemahall tomorrow. Avoid the COVID!!

[@vincentsaunders4773]

Nice presentation on a Long lost Colorado-Utah raiload that went from Mack, CO to Watson, UT back in the late 1800 and the early 1900's. It served the mines at Carbonara, Atchee, Dragon, Rainbow and Watson. They also hauled Gilsonite (asphaltium) by Wagon teams, and later trucks, to the American Gilsonite Refinery near Bonanza, UT, northwest of Rangely, CO until the mines closed. For good reading, read the book "Uintah Railway: The Gilsonite Route" available in the Uintah County Library in Vernal, UT and several Adjacent county Libraries (Mesa-Grand Junction) in Colorado.

[@jadonschneider9933]

Ugh you two are so cute! I loved watching your video, so informative. It’s truly fun learning about this railroad from you guys. Keep up the good work!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Fun day. Long story to follow up on. Soon.

[@joshridderhoff2050]

What a great, fun video! Too few people know the amazing story of the Uintah Railway, was so excited when I saw this pop up in my recommendations; picked up a new subscriber for sure! If you get back to the Pass, be sure to look for Columbine Park next to the grade just on the west side of Baxter Pass: it's a grassy, open park where trains used to stop for picnics & such, and there are a few cabins still mostly standing there (at least when my uncle & I made the trip twenty-something years ago), and remnants of a water tower just up the hill. Makes a great place to roll out sleeping bags & spend the night. ;)

[@bobbybaldeagle702]

You kids are out having way to much fun!!! LOL,LOL Thanks for another take me back in time video it was awesome to see those tight turns the trains had to make and on such a steep incline like that... I just wonder how many people drive that road really know that it once was a rail line... Lord will some day I'll be back out fining these places myself again until then I'll be here wait looking forward to another awesome video... BBE..

[@ToyManTelevision]

Bobby Baldeagle boy have we been having too much fun I am beat. Just back from Cheyenne and heading directly after Southern California! Rob is running his railroad !

[@ToyManTelevision]

Are commenting system has gotten somehow screwed up, I mean it's just KZbin comment in system, but somehow it's not working quite right. It threw away a whole bunch of responses. No idea why

[@bobbybaldeagle702]

Toy man... I had the same problem. I didn't get no notices for days then WHAM!!! I had 63 of them took me 2 hours to get through them all... LOL... Which was ok I got nothing better to do but lay here ant way!!! LOL,LOL,LOL

[@ToyManTelevision]

You Tube can't help themselves, they just NEED to tweek till it breaks.

[@harveymarch3816]

Dear Dale and Karen Angell, You said that the Unitah Railway was the "crookedest railroad". Many years ago Marin County, California had a railroad starting in San Anselmo and ending in Muir Woods National Monument. It also was called "the world's crookedest railroad". But a storm washed out a section of the soil under the tracks and the railroad was abandoned. As a boy from San Francisco I remember going with my family where my Father would drive our 1937 Ford V8 and park it near the foot of the trail in Mill Valley. We would hike to where we would find the abandoned railroad bed. And we would carefully follow the railroad bed into Muir Woods. I know that the National Park Service has made many changes to the drivable road to Muir Woods. And I believe that there may be N entrance fee to enter Muir Woods. Again I believe that you would enjoy the trip. Your fan, Harvey March

[@robertemmons7865]

Thank you for sharing this video with us! I live in Vernal. I've driven over Baxter Pass several times, and I still get excited every time that I travel over the pass and on the old RR route.

[@ToyManTelevision]

What a great old railroad.

[@robertemmons7865]

I agree! When traveling over the old Dragon line or the Rainbow line you can still gather up some of the old RR spikes.

[@ToyManTelevision]

There is more STUFF on this line... That we found a tie plate off a switch, with the name Unita cast into it, AMAZING!!!!!!!!

[@robertemmons7865]

Wow! I wish that I had found a tie plate that had Uintah cast into it! I have found four plates, and they were all really rusty, but I had still kept them anyway.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Love collecting old rust

[@randallhawkinson4727]

My UR No. 50 (in HO, standard gauge) is sitting on the engine track at Foggy Mountain, Co adjacent to the North Park Lumber & Mining's "Moly" Facility No. 2, awaiting repainting and lettering for the NPL&M (a subsid. of the PC). This area is awaiting my experiment in foam board scenery bases for the mine structures I built while I was recovering from my fall in "11. Other mine structures for this area were salvaged form Layout No. 3 (back in my high school and jr. college years.) Old no. 50 was required for the ridiculously tight curves up on that portion of Layout No 5 downstairs, a Christmas gift from Diane in 2012. Thanks for showing the old Uintah and your model. It was one of my favorite inspirations for my own layout back in high school. 7.5% grade? No. I left that out. But the helix up to the lumber and mine line is at least a 3.5, maybe a 4.0! (I flunked Trig., which is why I never got my architecture license.)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Looking forward to detailing this 50.

[@randallhawkinson4727]

Looks pretty good as is. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Go ahead. Inspire me!

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Uintah Railways? Yes, always been intah railways! That hairpin and 7.5% grade looks like it was made for mule trains! Usually requires a rack for that steep, very interesting little railway.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Always amazed they got trains around that. And not just shays! Articulated locomotives!!

[@Lcalvert66]

I love watching your videos!! My husband has become a fan as well!

[@ToyManTelevision]

G thanks! Voice recognition put that down as a G. I mean gee.. No matter thanks!

[@jamosgarage9006]

Great Video. I live in Grand Junction and love taking day trips to Baxter Pass area.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Us too! Great day trip

[@emeraldvalleywoodworking]

Love the history. Thanks, guys.

[@robertemmons2260]

Loved the video! I live in Vernal UT and have travelled over Baxter pass many times by Jeep or pickup. I've found many narrow gauge spikes over the years. Ever since that I've heard of this railway I've always been fascinated by it. Thank you for your hard work and time on bringing this video to us.

[@ToyManTelevision]

As long as you don’t find a spike with your tire.

[@robertemmons2260]

Its ironic that you say that. There have been times where oilfield trucks have picked up a spike, and the drivers have become very baffled as to why there is a railroad spike on a road that is many miles out in the middle of nowhere.

[@upsd402]

Great video, one of your best. What a amazing railroad. Again, great video.

[@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan]

Can't wait to see a video of your newly built Garden Railroad

[@negativeprofit]

Awesome , do you have anything on the Heber Creeper?

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yes. Several. Look for toy man television Heber.

[@ToyManTelevision]

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[@ToyManTelevision]

Have three shows.

[@WEUSANDCORR]

It seems that old adage never say never applies here, those grades and curves. Wow. Cheers Les

[@ToyManTelevision]

Amazing what they did.

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

once again thank you for your adventures I was admiring your antique telephones on the wall I have the one on the bottom the generator I use it to ease the pain of the arthritis in my hands

[@nathancorcoran5347]

Uintah Railway #50 and #51 could’ve been in operation to this day at the Sumpter Valley Railroad (As a heritage railroad) rather than being scrapped.

[@colinming4131]

Thanks for another really interesting video! Cheers...

[@feelup74]

Wow super informative love it. Railroad history rocks

[@vettebecker1]

Awesome history of this line, sad that it's been lost like so many lines. Very cool to see this. How's Adams Large scale railroad coming along??

[@ToyManTelevision]

Great. He started more or less over. But track is about 1/3 in? But he built a huge waterfall. Anyway looking great. Hasn’t opened it up yet. Just stopped snowing a day ago.

[@vettebecker1]

@@ToyManTelevision very nice, can’t wait to see it sometime. Last I saw, he pulled up the G gauge and was starting to lay the 7.5 track

[@alejandrobarraganlopez3231]

I really enjoy your vídeos but this specially is special due to all this exploration journey is pure railroad archaelogy, something that isn't common to see in this days, down the border we try to keep as many of these tresures safe and preserved as we could, Thanks a lot to show this great adventure of a little piece of RR history.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thank you. Do keep things safe there. People do seem to be loosing any interest in history (and for that matter civility) So many interesting railroad along the border and south of the border. We really want to see the relics in Central America. Many interesting narrow gauge lines and old locomotives. .

[@alejandrobarraganlopez3231]

@@ToyManTelevision a group of friends and me proudly can share with all you that we keep in operational conditions a narrow gauge steam locomotive, a Baldwin 2-8-0 built in 1921 The 279 and there are few videos around here in you tube. That's the reason why I love all your work and love for the trains. If you wish to come South the border to see how far down did ALCOS and Baldwins are now we have two places at your full disposition to see what remains in our country.

[@jackkreighbaum783]

I guess there are several vintage videos available of the Uintah Railway. Great show, thanks.

[@ToyManTelevision]

fun little railroad!!!!

[@jeanneuzarhudson8207]

Opps; it pays to watch the w-h-o-l-e adventure before writing a comment. Just not seconds after resuming this adventure there goes Dale up that "snazzy" library ladder into the toy loft to pull out his locomotive. Well, for an old duffer such as myself, that sucker was awesome and flawless. Classic, yet pricy LGB. Last time I go to the lobby for popcorn during the move. Carry on with this Massive Screwing around. G & J

[@ToyManTelevision]

Jeanne M. Uzar hi. Our comments have been messed up. We have been in Wyoming, at first snowed in in a motel6 and then at depot days!! Sae the big boy! But you tube did something to our comments and a bunch never posted and then were eaten by the you tube god. Anyway hi!!!

[@jeanneuzarhudson8207]

Technology. You guys be good. "I'm Tom BoDette and we'll leave the light on for ya.." Didn't say anything about snow in those, folksy commercials.

[@ToyManTelevision]

When you are in a blizzard that sign can look darn good!

[@drummerboy1390]

Jeanne M. Uzar I

[@tom7601]

That LGB Articulated makes me smile. :>)

[@ThomasWLalor]

Delightful, personable, interesting video.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!! Love making these videos. Love chasing down old railroads, and this is the best we have found. Rio Grand Southern 2nd. But so much left, so much "junk" on the old grade. Miles of rusty metal bits.

[@jeannah3716]

I really love this video and think you two did a great job showing everyone the history and function of this line. I love watching you two have fun together. I actually worked on archaeological excavations along this rail line and have been along much of the old line to Dragon and up Baxter Pass. One thing -- PLEASE STOP LOOTING. I know it's fun to find artifacts, but if you take them, then the next people who come along won't be able to enjoy what you did. You're also breaking the law. Feel free to find them, handle them, and take photos, but when you're done please leave them at the site.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I have such mixed feelings about picking up stuff. First time I went to the Nevada northern there were amazing things all over the place. Brake wheels and such. Left everything in place. The next year it was all mostly gone. People had taken “the good stuff”. The next year it was all gone. Mine cleanup. Land reclamation. Grades and everything plowed under. Glad I have video and photos because that’s all that’s left. Same thing happens so often. The salt lake and fort Douglas. Never found one thing. My dad did pick up a Coke bottle in 1948 ish. While building a road. But today the only grade left is about 100 feet and that’s been restored and new track laid and a placard saying what it is. At the old shop on the unita there were a few things in the 90s but all that’s there now is the building. And so on. It’s like stopping time. Can’t be done. Mostly I like shooting video and photos because soon that’s all there is. So I have mixed feelings about it. I keep remembering all the amazing things on the Nevada northern. Now a memory.

[@thecurtray]

looks as if my internet friends are out running around again. fun channel. i am heading to redding California from kansas Tuesday 9-27-18 hauling a Studebaker to a fella out there. it takes me forever to get out of Colorado as i always pick one place to see. cannot wait to see the redwoods out there in ca. when may i start on that railroad for you. it is what i do.-- curtis--i believed the bad back story,but the ice and snow seems more prevalent. what if you had a bad back and it was snowing. ha

[@4501driver]

as somebody who lives in grand junction. I'm sorry you didn't get a good time at cross orchards. I'm s member of the model railroad club at cross orchards and we try to be very friendly. and I'm quoting this from a uintah book I have but a lot of those water cars were used for people. since those towns were in the middle of nowhere people needed water somehow lol. I've been waiting for you to come to grand junction for a while lol. I hope you can see our model railroad club sometime I think you would enjoy it.

[@astridvallati4762]

The LGB articulateds are a favourite for Sushi-Train restaurants. Watching the running gear going, dragging a 20 flat-car load of Sushi ( on porcelain plates is a real joy.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’m having a hard time picturing a Gilsonite locomotive pull in sushi. Just can’t quite connect pure carbon with raw fish. Well if I can get past the metal image the idea of a locomotive serving sushi as a grand idea

[@jeanneuzarhudson8207]

Right now I am re-training my tongue to pronounce the name of the railroad. LGB and now Bachmann have reproduced that Mallet locomotive and I always mis-pronounced the name of Uintah. Well, of course you both are locals and it just flows off your collective tongues. With my bad eyes I never noticed the, "i" in the name. Thanks for that lessen. I am going back to finish your most excellent video and perhaps watch it again on the "big screen", downstairs. In tribute the tracks are loaded with the Shay, the Climax and the Heisler just flowing down the rails like little Swiss Watches. You know, that famous auction sight is not giving away them Mallet's, anymore. Now, more the ever I want one. Carry on and I am switching back to finish this Toy Man Adventure. Greg and Jeanne

[@littlejohhny42]

Great video of your trip. My first view of the Garage Mahal. So what's in the great Gerstner's tool chest? Don't see many of them these days.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I went nuts for them keep many of our tools in them. The small one holds all the small tools. Knives screwdrivers nippers, files and so on.

[@saltleywsc]

another cracking video guys!!!

[@PeterCPRail8748]

That is one impressive little railroad lost to time. Thanks for sharing anither great tid bit of US rail history .

[@startrek91481]

you two have some great videos, but this one might be the best so far.

[@ToyManTelevision]

WOW Thanks!!! We sure had an amazing day on this one.

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

Always informative and fun. Thanks

[@dougcostello9064]

Thanks for another great video.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Wow! Great layout. Doug Costello thanks!!!!

[@alynnsnow]

Very interesting video. We visited Dragon today with a 4 wheeler group.

[@matthewlastrapes8104]

Great job on the video loved it

[@billvassar7473]

great video enjoyed it. must be fun to screw around like you do lol.

[@robertfarquhar1265]

hi all from OZ.i to have driven the Uintah grade a few years ago,there is quite a few UINTAH fans in australia.Amongst a few of who us who operate minia ture live steam locos to prove you had been there you had to bring bacak a piece of GILSONITE which the customs people always had a long look at. one friend scrounged up a small bag of the stuff boxed it and mailed it back to australia where it now rides around as alod in a small 4 wheel railway wagon on a 5 inch gauge railway(SEE TREVOR HEATHS LIVE STEAM PAGES AND GO TO THE NARAMYNDED RAILWAY AT REPTON WHERE YOU WILL SE A TRAIN OF SMALL WAGONS CROSSING A TIMBER BRIDGE) Bob Farquhar

[@crystalrock18]

Over 11k subscribers way to go!!!!!!!! That is one really really neat railroad too. It's a shame there aren't any locos from that rail road that have been preserved. Over all another great video. Also Dale I am sorry I haven't sent the FRISCO 1522 pictures to you yet. My wife and I just bought a house and we are finally settled in. Tomorrow when I get off work I will email them to you via FB messenger.

[@karynfelix-the-Cat]

Congrats on the new home! No worries... Dale and I both know what it's like to relocate.. Two years ago... We combined our two previous lives, which for us, was the accumulation of 40+ years of living and collecting.. Then dealing with the remains of mine, and his mom's estate...and all of their belongings... One day at a time.. Right? Thanks for your viewership and wonderful comments!! :D

[@crystalrock18]

Karyn Felix-Angell oh my that's sounds like quite the big undertaking!!! We are almost settled in just a got a few more boxes to un pack then I get to move my HO scale lay out to the base Kent which I am super excited about. I plan on modeling it to be as close as I can get to look like the MKT railroad out here in Missouri. The town that I live in was a stop along that rail road line at one time and I want to model it to look like the down town area in the world war 1 time frame. Any I will send you a FB friend request so we can talk more train because I LOVE TRAIN Karyn!!!!!

[@newwomyn]

You are delightful couple. If you were on the Zephyr in Colorado Rockies, you would be on the Moffat Tunnel, Glenwood Springs, and Green River subs on the Union Pacific. I study railroads as a hobby, but I have a professional and financial connections to every Class One in the country. Keep up the good work, have fun, and see you on the High Iron. Peace for now.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. We take the zephyr to junction a lot. But the great trip is to Glenwood and stay at the old hotel and swim at the hot springs. Or west to the bay!

[@newwomyn]

If you are going west, you will be on the Shafter, Nevada, Roseville, and the Martinez subs. That Roseville Sub between Reno and the Roseville Yard is nice and picturesque as it runs over Donner around Truckee. Besides, that is some pretty High Iron. I live near the BNSF and Union Pacific Cherokee subs, the BNSF Afton sub, the Union Pacific Wagoner Sub, and the KCS Heavener Sub. You did mention the Big Boy, the Union Pacific 4014 with the articulated suspension. I saw that on the Union Pacific Wagoner sub in Claremore Oklahoma as it was making its way from Van Buren Arkansas. It had stopped at the Florence Avenue grade crossing. The FRA ID on the crossing is 428370P. It is at Mile Post 609.430. Claremore is also on Historic Route 66. The BNSF Cherokee Sub runs roughly parallel to the Route from Springfield Missouri to Tulsa Oklahoma.

[@zapityzapzap]

Y'all should go chase the beds that served Westcliffe, CO. Both the Grape Creek narrow gauge line and the Texas Creek line. You can still pick out the Texas Creek bed following highway 69 north to the Arkansas river. Another fun one would be Alpine tunnel.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Love the part of the world too.

[@struck2soon]

Interesting history lesson, thanks!

[@royreynolds108]

The curves up Baxter Pass are 66 degree or 91.8 foot radius which would give 183.6 foot diameter. A 80 degree curve is 77.79 foot radius. A curve is measured in degrees. There are actually two definitions for degree of curve: 1. railroad- the arc of a given radius with the central angle between two radii subtended by a 100-foot chord or sin 1/2 D = 50/R; 2. highway-the arc of a given radius with the central angle between two radii or D/100 = 360/2 pi(R). A curve of D = 3 staked on the ground will yield essentially the same curve by either definition. There is an excellent book out about the Uintah and there are photos and plans of the equipment. The passenger cars were separated by flat cars because of roof clearance problems negotiating those curves. Rod locos were used north of the pass but had to be dismantled and loaded on flat cars to go over the pass because of the curves and then reassembled for use. As pointed out in the comments #50 and #51 were sold to the Sumpter Valley which took the side tanks off and added a tender to each. Rail was added to the walkways to replace the weight of the tanks to get back the tractive effort the tanks gave. At least one or possibly both locos were brought back from Guatemala but are still disassembled. When delivered by Baldwin, the #50 was set up to run at Mack and the first trip the water in the sight glass went out of the bottom of the glass when the loco went over the crest of the pass because Baldwin didn't build the crown sheet in the firebox for the 7.5 % grade and the fireman promptly left. Baldwin made the required changes to the firebox and crown sheet at Atchee. You and others call the #50 & 51 Mallets but they are true simple articulateds instead of compounds which a Mallet is. The Big Boys and Challengers are simple also. Remember a compound uses the steam twice but an articulated uses steam only once in each engine set. All of the cylinders for #50 & #51 are the same size, same bores by same stroke. The brake lines were above the couplers because of ease of getting to the gladhands and clearance problems below. Tie plates usually are not cast but rolled then sheared into the correct width with the spike holes punched. I hope this info helps.

[@mikealexander4166]

Like this video and all the others I've watched. Thanks!

[@stevenmetzger3385]

Great video

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks

[@vicreece8681]

Love the name for your garage/storage area

[@kennethjeys2608]

the film is fantastic footage of the trains!! On some of the footage the photographer balanced himself on one of the flatcars loaded with Gilsonite and took the film .. it is fantastic !! The Rainbow branch didn't even have passenger service to it. You should get a copy and see it. You can get it on eBay or any store that carries trains or hobbies.

[@cklosi]

My great grandmother kelly owned and lived in that hotel in mack, she operated a rock shop in the back half of it. It looks alot different now then it did when I visited there during the summers I spent there as a kid. When she bought it they found big leather bound guest sign in books and old photos photos in the attic that were eventually used for the book "the guilsonite route".

[@ToyManTelevision]

Cool story. The hotel burned. About half of it. The guy there now told us it was also used as the station. But not so I think. There was a depot across the street which was so small you needed to go outside to turn around. So I’ll bet most people did wait in the hotel.

[@cklosi]

Yeah I remember her telling me about it burning, she converted the remaining entrance into a kitchen and we had to use an outhouse for the bathroom because the indoor septic system sucked, the floors creaked when you walked and it was really loud when the trains came throughout the night

[@cklosi]

And yes there was a depot across the rail line, when my grandmother bought it they took all the little out buildings and put them on her property and used them as sheds

[@PowerTrain611]

In Salida, Co, there is a spot along the Arkansas River where there is an old bobber caboose and the remains of the old yard for the Denver and Rio Grande. Quite a lot of nice history in that town, including a gaurd rail next to that caboose made of old rail as well. Cute little town, not far from where the tracks of Monarch Pass used to be, now a driveable path. Salida was a major interchange point for narrow gauge and standard gauge trains. And wouldnt you know it, the town of Salida was built by the railroad! You should check it out! I was born out there, its beautiful. Love your videos, man. Cheers!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Packing a bag...

[@pablocruize3975]

On your way you should stop in Gunnison ( the other side of Monarch Pass) and check out their locomotive at the Pioneer Museum there (east side of town) Don't know what type it is.

[@patrickoguinn4553]

Enjoyed your program on the Uintah RR. Always wondered how you pronounced it. You two are doing something I would love to do but I never seem to have the time. How about the Benton and Bodie RR near Bishop California, that would be interesting also or the Carson and Colorado RR in the same area. Thanks.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Used to live a tahoe and was past there a lot. That would be fun!

[@2666loco]

Interesting info. It is hard to find much on the Uintah. The 2-6-6-2's were NOT mallets but simple articulateds with front and rear cylinders = same size. Amazing that they would outpull 2 Shays on 7% grades and more efficient. I'd like to see that. There is a drone video of the Rainbow area on You Tube. I assume the roads were Uintah right of way. Rainbow on the map of the Uintah is at the upper northwest part of the RR. I'd like to see more about it. Guess nobody made video of it; I can't find it if they did.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. Yes not a true mallet. But often called that. Just one of those things where people often hang labels on things that are twisted a bit.

[@TonyLasagna]

Had to re-watch this one. Never got the LGB mallet - but did get the C+S mogul. This inspired me to take it out and run it! Also broke out the White Pass and Yukon diesel, and the Santa Fe Queen Mary Series BlueBonnet diesel :D

[@bluejacketwarrior2457]

Fun fact. The air lines were placed above the knuckles as opposed to the normal position because the tight turns of the railway would cause the lines to break if placed below the coupplers.

[@steamgent4592]

@ Toy man Another cool history lesson. Have you ever done the old Moffat road ? The Book Climbing the Ladder covers it. It was his railroad over the continental divide before he built his famous tunnel which bypassed the whole thing? Pretty impressive scenery. When the book was written there were still water towers and all sorts of stuff left behind it was amazing what they left abandoned. I'm sure by now the little stuff has all been scavenged but maybe some of the big stuff survives just like some of the old RGS and DRGW has almost 70 yrs later.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Nope. Didn’t even know. Thanks. Love that area.

[@chrisweiser6522]

The Uintah RR had two of these Mallets, with a few slight differences between the first and second one built. These were the only narrow gauge (3 foot) Mallets to operate in the USA during the railroad's existence. (Imports of foreign articulated n.g. engines in our "modern" era are not included.) Bear in mind, if you want to drive the route, be aware that the steep climb to the summit can be difficult, depending on how much loose rock is on the grade. And once you make the summit, early in the season, there will inevitably be at least one set of ruts that looks like baby Grand Canyons. And those canyons can be deep mud or dried hard adobe. Access to the Gilsonite mines, if that's what you are looking for, is easiest from the north. The moment you leave pavement, you are in Gilsonite territory. Well worth the drive, for railroad aficionados.

[@Dan.IdahoNorthernRy]

50 and 51, which were actually 250 and 251 from the Sumpter Valley Railway. they really wanted one of these back but sadly they were lost to time

[@chrisweiser6522]

danbnman 50 and 51 first worked on the Uintah until abandonment. Gilsonite continued to be mined without the railroad. When the Mallets moved to Sumpter, they removed the water tanks along the boiler. This reduced the traction, so old rails were placed on the running boards. The Mallets wound up in Guatemala, pulling loaded trains up a series of steep switchbacks. Eventually they were salvaged, though the smoke box of one of them served as a house of sorts for a local person. (So far as I can recall.)

[@Eisenbahn313]

Greetings from Austria! 👍 Peter

[@rohnerw]

Another very interesting video! And that Gilsonite? Neat stuff! In fact, according to Wikipedia, the Unintah basin IS the place to be, to obtain some. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilsonite. I do think, they need to re-lay the narrow gauge and put some of those shays at least, back on it. I wonder if there are any of those articulated tank engines still around that didn't end up in the scrap? I know, not practical, but still...You always have my thumbs up! Keep up that wonderful screwing around!!! :)

[@shanek6582]

I rode on Cass in WV when I was a kid, that was pretty steep as well.

[@fluffywolfo3663]

Oh hey, I recognize that picture from 1:33! The 2-8-0 on the left would be from the Maine Central.

[@ALCOPRO]

The Uintah Railway Reminds Me Of The Wolgan Valley Railway here in Australia. Oh yes GDAY you pair of screwy characters from Down Under :D Love the Vids.

[@robertfarquhar1265]

g ay,i have just bought the new book SHALE AND SHAYS BY MARK LANGDON,an unreal book on the wolgan valley line in NSW AUSTRALIA,its available from the light rail research society for au$70 plus p and p.for shay fans working in unreal country which was rugged sandstone country.if you love shays worth a look plus you will see HOW THEY DID IT IN OZ way back then...Bob Farquhar

[@ALCOPRO]

Thanks Robert already have it and have walked along the line a few times.

[@Mike-tg7dj]

Yeah every body likes positive reinforcement. I must be old.....58 because your videos are not boring on the opposite very informative.

[@emj1989]

they hung the air hoses high to keep them out of the snow and ice and keep ice out of the brake lines

[@patrickoguinn4553]

Makes sense.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Cool!! Or down right cold! Wondered..

[@trainzguy2472]

Or maybe so you didn't have to bend over as far because you would have to bend over a lot more on those TINY cars than you would with a standard gauge train.

[@pearlyhumbucker9065]

These air hoses resemble the air hoses you can find an every railroad vehicle with vacuum brakes. Did not find any evidence that the Uintah used vacuum brakes but the air hoses are kind of typical - you find them on every second narrow gauge railroad in Europe including the existing modern ones llike the "Rätische Bahn" in Switzerland. The air hoses need to be set high not only to keep them out of snow and ice, they are prone to get filled with condensing water when they are mounted at the height of the couplers that indeed would - in case of cold weather - freeze and therefore render the brakes in the cars after this air hoses useless.

[@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan]

I thought I had to be because the couplers were so low there was so low clearance the air hoses could be dragged along the track

[@ThePaulv12]

Ffar out! 3:31 & 5:02 looks like a climb from the Tour De France. You really can see how steep it was but the actual ruling grade must've been in the order of 10-12%+ factored for the load of the curvature and the combined elevation gain on the train. (I know you know why I'm here btw LOL) Also, I was just reading up in this fascinating railroad as well as the uses for gilsonite and could imagine it might make a good blackening agent for model railroaders since blackening is one of its uses.

[@ToyManTelevision]

As a matter fact all of the first generation model T Ford’s were painted with Gilsonite paint. Any color you want provided it’s black! Actually in 1909 model tease were available in any color. But then Henry Ford went to black only to save money. Actually come to think of it they went back to colors in 1926 and 27 for the last two years of the model T

[@slam854]

Gilsonite. That is a new one for me but I understand its value. Kind of like what we now term "oil shale". I was part of a project at Ceramatec in SLC that was trying to process this highly sulphurous oil product with molten sodium. The oil viscosity improved along with precipitating out sulphur and metallic compounds hazardous to the environment. Would have been great if only a way was found to retrieve the sodium from the petroleum. Pure sodium is like cool butter in consistency only it burns like lithium in the presence of water or atmospheric moisture. Nasty stuff!!! Burning sodium gives off Sodium Hydroxide which can burn and kill tissue including us. Like your collection of LGB with the Mallet. Looks good on display.

[@johne.worsham8608]

Out of curiosity, is there a slight chance of ever the installing the old railroad from Mack to Atchee as an excursion train? Would be neat to have a new narrow guage railroad to explore Colorado's past life and give future generations something to explore outside of the history books and classrooms plus an outing from school on a field trip.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I doubt it. Grade is fine. But the cost…