The WORLDSOUL SAGA Has BEGUN | Pyro Reacts to WoW: The War Within

[@Jaybird-20]

A lot of questions and hype floating around, so let me clarify: Pyromancer IS RETURNING to World of Warcraft to follow the new lore, check out The War Within when it releases, and maybe even play current retail to get caught up on what he's missed. However, he is NOT leaving Final Fantasy 14 - the story, world, and setting is every bit of Azeroth's equal, and he intends to continue his journey in Eorzea alongside his return to Azeroth. Thirdly, it has always been the case that he streams and speaks on the games he enjoys, which means that variety, one-offs, and other diversions will also continue. In his own words, for example, he plays more OSRS in his off stream hours than FF14 and WoW combined! That being said, there's obviously a lot of focus on World of Warcraft right now as we're all excited about these new announcements and the promise of the story moving in a healthier and more interesting direction. I would look forward to a lot more World of Warcraft content in the coming days, but I wouldn't be surprised to see gameplay and coverage of other titles as well. Whatever happens, you can be sure I will be here to bring it to KZbin for those who are unable to watch it on stream live. Pyro may be releasing a video to speak on this more directly, but until then - thank you for the support, everyone! We love the WoW community AND the FF14 community! We're really excited at and grateful for the enthusiasm and can't wait to see you in Azeroth, Eitherys, and beyond. - Editor Jay

[@torytar5435]

YEES!!

[@Martin-lm8xp]

Looking at the fat that ffxiv won't get any proper new content till Dawtrail (so almost 1 year), i bet that Pyro will just leave ffxiv behind.

[@jibrilles]

Great news! Why not both.

[@prinstyrio0]

​@@Martin-lm8xp Depends when A War Within is released, everyone is free to make their choices, can take a break from one MMO for a time to enjoy another, FF14's content certainly not going anywhere, but WoW is dear to many people and seeing it (hopefully) slowly make a comeback is reinvigorating old crushes.

[@a1pha_star]

@@Martin-lm8xp It's okay for people to take breaks! FFXIV devs encourage it!

[@darklurkerirl6101]

I love how you are here, again. Loved your works from day 1. And now after more than 5 years all things you said before came true. ALL I CAN SAY IS CONGRATUALTIONS.

[@foobis9805]

I still vividly remember watching Pyros Legion lore videos and the speculations were off the charts. Pyro deserves it man. This dude knows his fucking lore

[@MercerSynthAI]

Pyro giving Chris Metzen standing ovation was the best thing ever! :D

[@Clorgisclorg]

Best thing ever was when Pyro threw out all his WoW stuff and cried on livestream like a two-year old.

[@TK-is7re]

time stamp?

[@MercerSynthAI]

When metzen enters@@TK-is7re

[@ashkald4735]

@@Clorgisclorg That's why he literally broke in this video, most of his theories has been mostly been kinda confirmed and now WoW seems to be going straight to the conclusion of the storyline without any stops. ''Now it is time to come home'' and Pyro knew he was in again. You can also hear Pyro say ''this fucking guy...'' at Chris mid-cry at some point.

[@sonia417]

I love that he stood up ^^

[@LPCosmin01]

Bro you are so emotionally invested in this, when Metzen told you all you wanted to see in the game your mood totally changed, loved to see it hope u get back on it.

[@shanjose0]

Glad you're back, dude! Your lore videos have been a big piece missing from KZbin the past couple years.

[@Mountainlionn]

They really have been missed!

[@funk1541]

I remember finding your content a couple months before Blizzcon 2019 and just devouring every second of it. The lore conspiracy theories, the deep dives, all of it. You made me fall in love with the WoW lore so much more. My cousin and I looked for you everywhere on community night and were so happy to get to meet you. Hope Metzen's storytelling arc brings you back into the game and the lore. Glad to see you around WoW again man.

[@harmonyhall4186]

This was the reaction I was waiting for ngl. I just want to see other people as passionate about this story as I am see it and feel the same emotions I felt after all the disappointment and anger since BFA.

[@123pa1n]

yeah because 10 mins of babble on a stage will change everything xDD

[@moufo8253]

I was wondering Pyro: how does it feel to get a glimpse of the story kind of playing out how you were theorizing years ago? I bet it feels good and you totally deserve that!

[@jankxyard]

I wouldn't be surprised if writers watched his whole YT channel for inspo to finally make a good fucking setting. If Pyro were to write a story, I am 100% sure it would be incredibly successful, but who knows how he feels about such work.

[@jankxyard]

@@twocatsgaming6628 I never followed FF14 stuff, so I have no idea.

[@Pyromancer]

@@NoConsequenc3 LOL racism being a fantasy trope. You're not wrong, but it's hilarious either way to me.

[@niksolu]

​@@twocatsgaming6628If you talk Bullshit like that then let me add more bullshit. I bet FF14 stole the light vs dark trope from Alan Wake in 2010

[@KnightofEkron]

Pyro is very charming when he gets emotional.

[@apku04]

damn pyroman..glad to se not only me getting good ol feeling while watching this!...good to have this shit back on track! ..and glade to have you back man!!

[@iPanicyt]

Man.. My eyes were teary and I can only imagine how Pyro must have felt. Youre a legend, Pyro

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

im so confused, teary from what?

[@Powmiaofficial]

you know pyro, you banned me from your twitch channel years ago, but I remember listening to you talk about the unknown intentions of the titans easily 6 years ago +. I was naive thinking "nuh uhhh! The titans = good." and I must say sir what i thought was a whacked out point of view expansions ago has come to full fruition. You sir should feel extremely vindicated. Kuddos.

[@rickammons3867]

Goddamn it's good to see you doing wow stuff again even if it is sporadic. I missed your wow videos dude.

[@WowMortenz]

"Now is the time to come home" hits different.

[@Tiredling]

Man your reaction to this made me emotional, I love listening to you talk about WoW.

[@benjifoucher]

I am rooting for you Pyro, this turn in WoW's narrative opens many more opportunities for you

[@xenovus8282]

Not gonna lie, tenatively excited. If they pull it off, this could go great. It could also go horribly, really hoping that's not the way it goes though.

[@phatymcdaddy]

Same, but I have more faith with metzen back.

[@xenovus8282]

@@phatymcdaddy Metzen is the only reason I have any hope that they can pull this off tbh

[@coreyprange8941]

Metzen is back. We’ll be fine.

[@samyie3279]

First thought, WoD promises 2.0? But I do very much hope they pull it off successfully and not just end each of the 3 part story with “but you don’t know what’s coming!”

[@Trajikbpm]

It's definitely a money grab to get people to pre purchase for years. But as always it's exciting AF.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Metzen picking up after the sword says to me: "Ignore whatever hippy nonsense the writers were doing since then." Borrowing from Anduin's trauma of course. Sadly we can not just completely ignore BFA and Shadowlands

[@Idod]

The Pyro Saga pog. We were all denied of true storytelling after Legion, but now Metzen is back to save us from Denuzer’s incompetence. Glad to see you back bro

[@preds43]

You're acting like Danuser isn't the one responsible for much of this current narrative...

[@Idod]

@@preds43 Denuser with metzen holding his hand will surely be better, that much is pretty easy to predict

[@LetMeThinkItThrough]

I remember Pyromancer doing extensive analysis on the lore and gameplay, down to small seemingly irrelevant items found all around WoW with texts, hints and clues. Putting two and two together, connecting the dots and explaining in detail what is going on. And all this was happening during Legion and Battle for azeroth. Great analysis, you were literally 5 years ahead. Somebody should hire you as an analyst.

[@AmandaPelland]

Welcome back Pyro!! I just loved how you became emotional, it's been such heartbreak for you and the community as a whole with regard to the lore and all things WoW prior to today. Great to see you've uploaded this video. I teared up with you.

[@buddybarlow9604]

It's good to see you so involved in this pyro... love it. Nobody will EVER be able to question your fandom after seeing your reaction to this.

[@--Nemesis]

I like how Midnight might actually be patch 12.0 xD

[@ourovermelho23]

Excited to see your lore content man its always great to learn more about it with you

[@WhistleRgv]

I see im not the only one who was tearing up. Chris his speech made me emotional and then the cinematic came. They knocked it out of the park

[@XeroXenTruSin]

as a former wow player that loved this world. as a developer that started his journey in warcraft. as an avid theorycrafter in Pyros chat long ago... i too teared up at this. the father of warcraft is back. the desire for change is prominant. the air of adventure may have returned. We may have been scorned, forsaken, cast out, and betrayed... but we are still the saviors of Azeroth.

[@ryshazeux4099]

Its great that Midnight is 12.0

[@FreedumbHS]

That is incredibly clever

[@OET-q9w]

As a long term fan, you couldn't hide the tears from me after hearing Chris Metzen reference a big conspiracy that will affect everything we knew previously about the Titans. What an incredible experience to see you outpour the emotions of YEARS of theorycrafting, to finally get the closest thing to confirmation possible. You read the tea leaves, read between the lines, understood the stories inside of the stories, and you were right. By God, YOU WERE RIGHT. It's been a hell of a journey all these years, and I can't wait to see you come home to see the conclusion of a story you poured so much into for so long.

[@blackmage567]

Wow, the "come home" is quite real. Wow is always "home" for me. I dont play that much, but i return home every time. And i guess they mean this for players that replaced wow with another mmo...."come home".

[@AccidentalH3ro]

Looking forward to having you back Pyro. Miss your lore vids

[@jamesnicolson866]

Welcome home Pyro :')

[@NoName1462]

It is only appropriate that Pyro returns with Metzen's return, two GOATs of WoW Lore. I'm very excited for the content that is coming.

[@xxargonautxx9790]

Loved how you’re excited for wow again. I hope we get that story again and how you have your take on the story. Really loved how you explained it. Chris is back and that means wow is finally back!

[@Roachehh]

pyro i probably watched every lore video you ever made, need you back in this space ASAP!

Missed you Pyro, welcome back!

[@Bruno-rm4zq]

boyy im so happy that you recorded this!!!!

[@stanisawksel4682]

Blizzard should hire Pyro alongside Chris Metzen. They'd make the greatest possible storytelling duo.

[@ryseen6721]

I cannot describe how happy i was to see your video pop up on my screen, whether you are back or not WELCOME BACK to reacting warcraft lore materials. When i was watching it live i was saying to myself "Pyro was fucking right AGAIN!". Good to see you again man.

[@whirledpeaz5758]

Chris is our DM for the greatest home brew story adventure of D&D.

[@FantasyPiano317]

First of all... thanks to your editor that wrote me a comment under your last video :D And then... Pyro, i was just as devastated as you after what happened during shadowlands. I was always coming back to your channel to watch your newest theory about what will happen in the future of WoW. It struck me really hard that you stopped to do WoW stuff, even tho i understood you. Seeing Chris now returning and announcing this Saga reignites my hope for the story of a game that i fell in love with since 2006. This is the shit i wanted to see since the end of Legion back in 2018! Im hyped, hopefully you are too :) As someone said it in your comment during the stream: This is for you!

[@loganlaslo2098]

I do have hesitation on returning to WoW after recent content delivered by Blizz but seeing the Deep Dive and seeing this announcement...maybe we are FINALLY exiting the tunnel of the Bobby Kotick era of heartbreak, controversy and all-around crap to new age of hope for Blizzard. Btw, that 90-dollar bundle is another addition to Bobby's parachute so don't buy to give that man the finger as a farewell.

[@joesteer7455]

Glad you're back man you've been missed

[@SoulHuN7eR]

Wow I didn't believe I will see you reacting to that! A surprise to be sure but a welcome one! 😄

[@Vulgaria]

Bruh, I teared up when last I saw you, now you appear to me as Anduin, Rough around the edges and with PTSD, I hope to see you back into the lore ones more man ( Pre-written before watching the full vid, just REALLY happy to see you in this community again )

[@BigHeroSixy]

I loved metzen being back on stage. I dabble in both ff14 and WoW and came back for Dragonflight but this man has such a great stage presence. Imagine getting a wow + 14 collab with him and yoshida on stage. Would be hype overload.

[@bloodphoenixab]

Pause at 26:20. I'm pretty sure that is Kalimdor breaking apart starting from Silithus. The locations of the fissures are really interesting. Plus, if that is Kalimdor, what is that large mass near Feralas? You can also see the Maelstrom at the 2 o'clock position at 26:19 (another fissure appears there as well as to the south which I think is in Pandaria). Edit: Pausing at 26:21 you can make out an island that looks like that Isle of Thunder near that top of the text which is not far from the Pandaria fissure (aka probably Mohu'shan vaults). The fissures appear in several places where there are titan facilities as well as places that Old Gods were imprisoned. The Maelstrom fissure is probably the prison of N'zoth.) The one I personally find the most interesting is the fissure that is probably Terramok because that would prossibly tie in with the new allied race.

[@stormdancer859]

Azeroth is a Female Titan known as a world soul growing at the core of the planet.

[@DarkDiamondInc]

You clearly do not understand subtext if thats what you think.

[@IGniTo100]

I really hope this saga thing they are going for will make a more cohesive and comprehensive story. Also the quality of the cinematic was stunning.

[@TAZMASTA40]

Glad I wasnt the only one who was getting teary when chris showed up. 😂

[@markshaw157]

So pleased for you man. Could tell you were getting emotional at the thought of getting the WOW storytelling you fell in love with back. Here's hoping they do a good job of it, and happy theory crafting if they do 🙂

[@AgentVamp]

Much love, Pyro. I cried as well. So much finally lining up! Appreciate you, man. AgentVamp.

[@MM-fy8yx]

I love how we're going back to Old World locations- Quel Thalas and Northrend. I really appreciate not just adding new and new but actually developing the lore that is already there

[@JeyDB]

Anduin's journey is literally Pyro's relationship with WoW. Thrall talking to Anduin it's Metzen speaking directly to Pyro.

[@RobedLogic]

Been a good retirement, let's see if they grab me back in retail with an infusion of passion. Classic + already has me coming back.

[@tlyon5196]

I love how you care so much and arent affraid to show it bud. As someone who has been there from the beginning...i get it. New sub...new fan.

[@SippyCup_1993]

Seeing you get excited over wow again warms my heart, I missed you bro, your presentation on lore has always been the best, seeing u leave broke my heart as a fan, but as a human I understand needing to walk away for a bit, recoupe, recover and regroup. Keep it up bud 😊

[@joshuamitchell4158]

Man, pyro’s reaction to this has got to be the best I’ve seen. Super happy to see him back and excited for wow again.

[@illumination_0109]

So many callbacks in the trailer, the we don't get to hide, the lich king sword point by anduin sucha emotional trailer

[@Cryost]

I'm glad to see you talking about wow stuff again, I missed your videos!

[@qh777]

I wonder if Anduin will have something to do with pulling Sargeras' sword out of the land. The cinematic seemed to focus for an extended amount of time on Anduin's sword pushed against Thrall's leather strap. Within that moment you see Anduin slowly pull his sword from Thrall. Thrall will help Anduin with this and help with his ptsd.

[@doctorcis3510]

I have hope that this announcing the three expansions means they are commiting to story as a first party concern. It frustrated me for years that mechanics and end game content had seemed to grow to the point of rendering the world as an open lobby waiting for multiplayer. That the RPG part had been forgotten. So hopeful and hyped.

[@oMoosPlay]

Glad you're back Pyro!! Been waiting your lore video for a long time.

[@andrewjwhitus]

After Blizzcon I was searching around for "reaction" videos of Blizzcon and stumbled across this video. Its the first Pyro video I've ever seen. I loved how passionate he was about the game. I knew nothing of his previous work, "the rant", or his hiatus. I then started to go through his video history and watching his other lore theories. Then I learned about his hiatus, which also brought me to his rant video. I've since rewatched his more recent WoW videos with a new light. Now re-watching this video, everything seems 100% more impactful. Even watching his chat live when they say things like, "Chris is speaking directly to you Pyro...". Its all so cool! I'm glad the WoW community has him back, and I'm glad I've come across his video and can follow his theories to fruition over the next 3 expansions.

[@cris1500pher]

Welcome back brother.

[@TheNewCoalition]

I met Chris Metzen at his neighbors Bday party in Laguna Beach when I was 17 in 2007, it was unbelievably awesome. One of my best memories of all time lol.

[@Unaidedfoot]

I don’t play WOW but I am now. That Chris fella is a hype machine and the world needs more positive hype.

[@Elunandie]

I find it rather funny that Blizz now implements something like Hydelin calling out the worrior of light

[@MrHippiesmurf]

04:35 I tried to find when the tear starts forming out from this guy's eyes, i think this is the moment. maybe few minutes sooner.

[@donimmortal7692]

Call me cynical, but let's think a bit here. Annouced 3 expansions sure got immediate hype, which is understandable because they need something big to reel in people back, but what is the point beyond that? Why spoil the players about what to come? To me, it just sounds like they didn't have enough confidence in the next expansion to make people excited for more. Time will tell, I supposed.

[@jankxyard]

You're not cynical compared to the rest of the people who believe it's been announced because we're gonna have annual xpac releases, not biannually anymore. Soon there'll be a fan QnA video, so hopefully they'll respond to this question, since it's among the top ones on their forum.

[@anri6198]

Well, it's probably gonna play out like any trilogy so they might as well just be open about the fact that it is one. The trilogy format can deliver epic tales, like the kinds of LoTR. It's risky but also worth exploring on an mmorpg setting.

[@severdonwan]

Pyro happy crying through the announcement is a great sight.

[@avian9033]

I'm so proud of you dude. You've come so far in the last few years!

[@radenkovic2856]

I swear, besides the laughs in between, hearing Holly talking much reminded me of the opening of lotr. Where galadriel gives an Introduction

[@xavieno]

Glad to see you reacting to WoW again Pyro, your theory videos were always top notch.

[@marcuslobo5765]

Watching the cinematic makes me wish all over again that the WoW cinematic team should expand into its own movie studio

[@nealsandy8464]

gotta love the amount of trolling that happened this blizzcon lol the "what sword" meme, the WAR within after all the jokes about world of peacecraft. love that Metzen is back!

[@bryand8829]

Feels like WoW's attempt at MSQ. I'm nervous as their personal story telling with big characters has fallen pretty flat in DF. Additionally, the quick succession of expacs would bode well if not for the already feature-lite announcement with TWW. No new class? No new unique race? No player housing (something that was okay not announcing in DF but now...)? Since limited new gameplay elements, the narrative is going to have to do some serious heavy lifting for once.

[@Adlehyde.]

I won't knock trying to copy a winning recipe, but can't disgaree with what I heard about DF. Maybe DF was a rushed attempt to get something out and they had a lot more time to plan and write for this saga? Who knows.

[@Zeergruush]

LET'S GOOOOOO PYRO'S BACK!!! I'm so here for it! We had a watch party with a couple of friends and we were so hyped all the way through we were cheering in this one room flat like crazy! Feelsgoodman

[@Gibbo_cs]

As soon as he mentioned the titans conspiracy I immediately thought to myself "Oh pyromancer is going to love this".

[@gregjross852]

Pyro: Look at these nerds Also Pyro: Gives Chris Metzen a standing ovation from home.

[@dnvrom5dnvrom5]

I don't know if you will even read this but what the heck. So 6 years ago I was only 14 years old and was wanting to know more about the lore of WoW. I was lucky enough to find a video by you titled "Was it A Setup? The Reason behind it all?" I got to witness someone with so much passion and dedication that it honestly just blew me away. The way you had explained everything was just perfect. The ages of 14-16 was brutal for me, I won't go into depth but I owe you a big Thank You because without you knowing, your lore videos provided me with the air I couldn't breathe when things around me was bad. We all go through ups and downs and whether you come back to WoW or not just know that you did have a great impact with your videos. There is a awesome quote by Meissa McClone "Life takes you to unexpected places. Love brings you home."

[@Xplizzit]

I cried too, Metzen is the top dog writer!

[@Sebastian_Ulamog]

Man, watching Pyro get so emotional makes me so happy. I was watching the announcement on the edge of my seat as well, I cheered for Metzen, was hyped about the bits of lore, on the verge of crying with happiness - this game really is more than a game... Hard to explain to someone who isn't as invested in lore but I am super glad that we are all gathered here, you freaking nerds :D

[@Bigfreakinsword]

Pyro! You're back on WoW content! We missed you

[@catterin7815]

I've now watched this announcement and reactions from many sources and I have to say that yours was the most heartfelt. It was the most honest and the best. Like others, I have missed your lore videos. My daughter, who I play WOW with, wants us to start playing FF as well, so I will watch your videos on that as well. I look forward to seeing more of your theory's and videos.

[@Aimeen_]

Pyromancer coming home: confirmed. See you back on Mal’Ganis.

[@cyber_77777]

Hey Pyro, been watching you since the legions days, and seeing your reaction to Chris' invite back to "home". It got to me too dude, the endless grind of the game we loved for years. Feels good to finally look forward to Wow's future. Cant wait to witness your speculations all over again.

[@z33iihh]

I'm following Metzen in this, i trust he'll take us to an amazing story.

[@anthonyzarfati3579]

Going to be honest with you. It was pretty wholesome to watch Pyro get emotional over wow, you can tell he loves wow the team just hasn’t given him anything to be excited for in a while.

[@jbktiger]

Gotta respect your passion Pyro. Look forward to you picking it all apart

[@OriginalMiqote]

It's super interesting seeing them trying to catch up with Final Fantasy now. I'm glad you all got Metzen back but... I'm waiting till the end of the Worldsoul saga to decide whether I'll come back or no.

[@FishboyAbzu]

@@twocatsgaming6628 Blizzard is great when they're copying other things, thats back to their roots.

[@OriginalMiqote]

@AbzuLifeweaver 💯 yes, that's what blizzard does best, that's how they came out with the leading mmo for years.

[@TekharthaMondatta]

For ANYONE here who fell off the WoW train but feel compelled to come back after these announcements, I hope you get what you want and then some from this saga. I hope it treats you well., and that you have fun with and enjoy the game again. Sincerely.

[@fourjhin_cookies]

I hope we get to see that sea of molten metal and the war of the mecha gnomes underground. I think that's what it was at least. The stuff hinted at by the blingtron items over the years

[@kakabixlis]

I was so happy to see Chris back on the Helm but.. i am happier that you are back Pyro....hope you come back Home...

[@bobrosstwin5373]

The cinematic gave me some real WC3 or Diablo vibes and something about that cutscene is always a tear jerker man

[@rossulbricht2022]

Good to have you back on wow my friend

[@oeheaven]

I am glad you coming home, Pyromancer. I know it's been a range of emotions over the years but I always knew man that to be that frustrated with the story it had to mean a lot to you and the time you invested had to be long. I have to say that it has not been the same without you these past years. I look forward to your future man.

[@deadmanwade3618]

Welcome back. We’ve missed you

[@alirezabehnamnik]

you have no idea how happy I am seeing you posting wow content again and being happy and hyped again for wow , you almost made me cry I really missed your theories and wow contents man ❤❤

[@0Sticks]

Thank you Pyro that I could join you on this journey and look at it with you. That was sweet, emotional and you earned it all. Thank you and blessing from all my heart ❤️ 🎉 you are such a sweet character

[@Mymloch]

What happens to anything living on the shell of an egg when it hatches? Metzen really knows how to work a crowd. Glad to see him back.