The Worst Anime You Can't Stop Watching

Several thousand years ago, I started watching The Seven Deadly Sins. Now it's time to roast it. I am so, so tired.
(re-edited to appease the youtube censors)
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#Anime #Roast #sevendeadlysins
Chapters:
00:00 A Valuable Lesson About Viewer Requests
01:53 The Fall and Fall Some More of The Seven Deadly Sins
16:03 Sinking Ships
27:04 The Fart of Worldbuilding
33:10 Make it Stop, Make it End
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[@mothersbasement]

Thanks so much to all the folks who've come back to watch this again after the takedown! please be aware that just clicking and watching a few seconds can be detrimental, so if you can, leave it on in the background to ensure the algorithm does not hate me.

[@JohnWick-ut1tj]

🫡

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Will do man! Can't wait to rewatch this epic roast all over again! You rock!

[@TheOfficialPYTC]

Yeah I was about say didn’t he do this yesterday

[@Dad......]

Good title change too. Want to watch the video twice as hard this time.

[@atharvadeshpande4749]

God Damnit!!! I missed it's original Age Restriction required glory.

[@ilikethis3203]

To be fair using your opponent's blood as lipstick is pretty metal as fuck.

[@cadethumann8605]

In a literal way even to a certain extant. Blood has some iron in it, which explains why it tastes like pennies.

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

“What an awesome woman antagonist! Sure hope they don’t do anything to f*** that up!”

[@cadethumann8605]

@@o0bookwyrmknight0o You know, I just wonder why they can't have female characters that are cool. I know it's shonen, but come on, many guys like myself love the kind of women that can kick ass (and it doesn't have to be physical). We are all humans in the end.

[@rileyflack8010]

@@cadethumann8605 Nobara from JJK is peak shonen writing for women

[@lynxfresh5214]

Jericho bulletpoints (mini rant): *Suffers an inferiority complex to her brother and has to work under the cruel Weird Fangs. *Gets humiliated by Ban in her first "battle" and loses her armour. *Drinks demon blood and risks dying to gain the power in order to take revenge on Ban. *Cuts up Ban and even wears his blood as lipstick (still a cool moment ngl) while hurting innocent folks. *Gets turned into a monster and is completely naked after being saved by Ban. *Decides to stalk Ban and ignores her friend Guila's unusual behaviour changes. *Honestly believes she's in love with a man old enough to be her father yet Ban is clearly not interested. *Has to accept Ban prefers fairy lolis over her while risking her life to save both Ban and Elaine (including taking a boulder to the face). *Is completely helpless in the 2nd tournament and eventually needs to be saved by teleport ex machina like several other characters. *Gets kidnapped by a demon and gets a demonic egg injected into her. *Her brother dies trying to save her from becoming a demon and in the end she's saved by Merlin being "infinite". *Finally gains innate magical power mourning her brother's death yet at this time Holy Knights have become completely irrelevant in terms of strength compared to the Ten Commandments and even mid-level demons. *Years later developed "feelings" for Ban's son and as a result of her shame joins the enemy just "because". Tl;dr: I've rarely seen an author blatantly hate their own character this much, I don't even like Jericho that much but sheesh it's almost like she's narratively cursed.

[@kingsleycy3450]

Meliodas’ perversion at least refutes the idea that we only hate Mineta because he is ugly

[@Ryan-qr3xg]

Imagine the meme of flirting vs harrassment but instead of the generic "handsome" man and "ugly" man, just put in Meliodas and Mineta.

[@j0j0dartiste21]

​@@Ryan-qr3xg 👱"lookin' good Susan" 👩🏼‍💼 "Hello, human resources?!" 🍇 "Lookin' good Susan" 👩🏼‍💼 "Hello, police?!"

[@DemiCape]

One difference is mineta does it to many girls while meliodas will only do it to one, both are not exactly good.

[@Altes444]

As a matter of fact, I hated both of them 😇💅

[@fanimation617]

wait people think that is the reason people dont like mineta? HE IS NOT EVEN UGLULY DRAWN TF

[@gsutvaos868]

Meliodas holding a baby saying “keep your hands off my woman” BROKE ME lmaoooooo

[@tvlampjelly]

I legitimately had to pause the show and face palm for like 3 minutes ☠️

[@bruh......2005]

The fact that the SDS fanbase still tries to defend that scene and actually see as "wholesome and romantic" never fails to astonish me. Even with context I remember watching it as a young highschooler and still being mad creeped out lmao

[@emmarod8746]

I agree it regularly would be weird for a character that looks like a kid to call a baby in his arms his woman to two knights after coming out of a creator without any context. I’m not defending it but I wonder why do you guys feel this way when you have the context of the scene to understand why he is saying that.

[@timothymclean]

@@emmarod8746 Because we don't think the context helps as much as you seem to. If Elizabeth is being reincarnated without her memories each time, how is her romance with Meliodas meaningfully different from a series of romances with different women? At least one of which was a literal newborn when he picked her up?

[@jaredhamilton8694]

When I heard that, I thought “there’s no way this line isn’t from an abridged series”

[@imaginedying9390]

Schrödingers pedophile is now one of my favorite phrases

[@jonny8774]

I don't think you understand the words you're using.

[@greenapple9477]

​@@jonny8774Is it wrong to enjoy absurd phrases?

[@Mabra51]

He never said that.

[@greenapple9477]

@@Mabra51 Yeah he does. When talking about Ban and Elaine.

[@Mabra51]

@@greenapple9477 No he doesn't.

[@RvEijndhoven]

It's telling that 75% of this roast is just literally recapping the story and letting that roast itself. Which sounds like I'm saying Geoff didn't have to do much work for this episode, but that's not true, since he actually had to watch this entire show to do that and I know from personal experience that getting therapy after a deeply traumatic event is a lot of work.

[@morley364]

"He was the true mastermind behind the the plan he was just instrumental in stopping" ah, the endless war with your own self-sabotage. Like how Geoff allowed himself to watch this show after nearly escaping it.

[@mst3kharris]

I laughed pretty hard when I realized he was repeating his script for Melodyass being stuck in hell for Melodyass’s little brother being stuck in hell.

[@jameshughes6078]

I'm so happy he recapped it all. I stopped watching 7ds for the pacing issues he brought up but was originally hooked in the first like 3 episodes, quit a few times, but gave up keeping up some time pre-covid, in the great beyond. I've recently been thinking about getting back into it but holy fuck am I glad I didn't now. My heart can't take another hit after the Witcher, GoT, and Westworld

[@Manganization]

That's more a runtime thing. I feel like all he had worth saying was done in the first 15mins. But people love his video roast so the runtime isn't going to fill itself.

[@darknaventuredelbarrio6771]

Best comment

[@glowbies9416]

Every relationship is “I met my wife when she was 2, just so happens I was 150”

[@SinHurr]

Which, to be _a little bit fair but only a little_ , if your lifespan is measured in centuries and you're not surrounded by other long-lived sapients, you're going to have to work with what you have.

[@glowbies9416]

@@SinHurr it’s less about that and more of them probably thinking “I’m going to rock this girl’s world once they’re legal”

[@mekullag9787]

@@glowbies9416 "I’m going to rock this girl’s world once they’re -legal- post pubescent" and that´s sadly the best-case scenario

[@mikebipping6166]

@@glowbies9416 no. the concept of legality in these cases doesn't align well because of how each of the races work. the fairy race is usually small people regardless, they age slower or faster at variants and can change their forms. the giants are just big and age VERY slow (Diane is 750!), Demons have a strange concept of aging because of how the Demon Realm works, etc. the worldbuilding concepts affected time and age a lot.

[@mikebipping6166]

@@mekullag9787 ​ once again, the worldbuilding made everything crazy regarding time and age. especially with the main cast. they're all adults, just adults with random magic bs GO! added.🤣

[@SuperParkourio]

"Imagine if Mineta was the protagonist of My Hero Academia." How dare you even joke about that.

[@Zero-Descent]

It would make mha actually watchable since Mineta doesn't have all the powers of a god.

[@ycleptprof.5249]

Watching someone creep on teenage girls doesn't seem worth it when you could just nerf Deku and One for All.

[@coranbaker6401]

It's not a joke if it actually happened. That's basically just Meliodas

[@potatosalad3655]

Honestly would be better than whatever the fuck mid-oria is

[@coranbaker6401]

@@potatosalad3655 He once expressed interest in a literal child. I would love to hear anyone give an argument for how that's better than Midoriya

[@kingdelledroghe1957]

What surprised me is that every single character have sad backstory. LITERALLY EVERYONE. And a lot of them HAVE THE SAME SAD BACKSTORY.

[@PixP6]

And there is never an episode where someone doesn't have a tear in the eye

[@RushWheeler]

"My obviously underaged love interest is either dead or set to die in a specific timespan that allows the pacing to move as slowly as possible in favour of weak character development! So sad!"

[@enbeast8350]

Meliodas really told Ban "Oh, you witnessed your girlfriend die before your eyes. Hold my beer" with his backstory

[@theyusane668]

Almost like Kengan ashura

[@whydoiexistinthisworld2032]

​@@theyusane668But the difference is, Kengan Ashura did it better. It made us sympathize with a characters and/or understand where they're coming from. But not for the Seven Deadly Sins characters that revolves around a child in some way. Other than Gowther, the main characters either married a child, fell in love with a child, or is a thousand years old and looks like a child.

[@somerandomguy7325]

Shoutout to the Escanor for being the only normal person in the group. He almost had a normal, good, and healthy relationship, he wasn't a pedo, rapist, or a victim.

[@nik0938]

Nobody there is a rapist or an victim lmao 💀

[@unnamedenemy9]

@@nik0938 woman repeatedly groped before ever giving consent? You know what? You're right, that's *totally* not sexual assault because she *eventually* consented to it!

[@etfreima2080]

​@@unnamedenemy9 he used the skull emoji he's unstoppable

[@LauraLovesHugs]

@@nik0938 your mentality is why real life victims of sexual assault don't come forward. live or die with that knowledge.

[@somerandomguy7325]

@@nik0938 Gowther and guila

[@YayapLives]

I'd make a joke about it still being a better love story than Twilight but I'm _pretty sure_ that falling in love with someone, chasing after them even though they're clearly in love with somebody else, finally giving up when they get together with that person and deciding to just bang their kid is exactly a love story from Twilight.

[@mikebipping6166]

Jericho REAAAAAAALLY needed that D🤣 Ban was definitely clapping in prison! they were worried about dropping the soap near him fytb

[@Interweb_Gremlin]

Oh fuck you're right lol

[@phoenixfritzinger9185]

Team Jacob

[@RealSlendyBoi]

They literally wrote a better love story than Twilight, while writing Goddamn Twilight into the series itself.🤣😂

[@scaldcrowe]

7ds and twilight both also have the immortal male lead creep on his teenage love interest while she's asleep

[@tunagorila5704]

The fact they did EVERY anime troupe awfully and I still watched it is impressive

[@belgium_solo_vers]

Because it was good

[@alano.o1223]

​@@belgium_solo_versfr

[@pascalsimioli6777]

I have no hope in humanity thanks to people like you. Absolutely no standards I swear. You liked it, it wasn't good, learn the difference please.

[@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463]

@@belgium_solo_versno probably because they were young.

[@ericlamb4501]

I think that's more just telling of your own masochism than anything 😅

[@thisisnighthawk2713]

Escanor carried the anime. If it wasn't for him nobody would talk about it.

[@lilfroggy90]

Yeah

[@greg5805]

that's how you now Escanor was the strongest sin

[@samflood5631]

Shame he was killed off right before the anime ended. But hey, at least he won’t be involved with a lot of pedophilic ships being canon.

[@akeru2007]

​@@samflood5631 Three word Merlin IS 12

[@DarkEclipse23]

@@samflood5631and yet you can die and no one will will remember you while this anime and its sequel will exist.

[@Foxflarep]

"Stop adding numerical power levels to anime. You're not making math better; You're making anime worse." - Hank Hill, probably.

[@Courier_Seven]

"why would anyone want to do drugs when you can just mow a lawn?" -actual Hank hill quote

[@Pokeringo]

Unless the anime is called Gintama, that makes fun about the power measurement in anime.

[@Cascade7155]

Bobby is a power scaler

[@timothymclean]

There are only so many things you can do with power levels, most of which either require a specific setup to work or were done in DBZ's Saiyan arc.

[@AlphaOmega1237]

@@timothymclean Yeah, you can make levels work in a narrative. They just have to actually mean something to the audience. Random big numbers the increase forever don't mean anything.

[@demonic-deadbeat3212]

"I swear officer, she consented in her past life." made me spit out my coffee 😂😂

[@noahwoods8322]

My immediate thought was ok R Kelly

[@bobdylan1968]

I'm so glad he mentioned how r wordy this show is. Fucking nonsense. I argued with people for like 2 hours about it on Reddit. That it doesn't ducking matter if they were in love in a past life lmao.

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

@@bobdylan1968that’s literally how the magic works

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@bobdylan1968also the thing where ban falls in love with soemone he literally admits looks like a kid.

[@RushWheeler]

​@@bobdylan1968ESPECIALLY the fact that Elizabeth is 16 at the time

[@elliewaugh9346]

I was recently in the hospital and the man next to me was watching it on full volume FOR 7 HOURS STRAIGHT. Made the whole hospital experience significantly worse.

[@whiteraven181]

You have serious mental endurance. I wouldn’t have managed to stay in a bed near that during open heart surgery.

[@adrianomaly1760]

“Use…… headphones… please…” *perishes*

[@GoldenPantaloons]

My condolences.

[@samflood5631]

My God, what happened to you? Did the guy next to you binge watch the entire series, on full volume?

[@NeoVault_]

Are you sure you were at a hospital, and not an elaborate CIA torture chamber? That sounds horribly hilarious.

[@animatedamons470]

The sexual assault in the first episode already gave me enough reason to dip and never look back. Glad to see my choice was correct

[@TheVnator]

As for the rest of us (at least me), we dipped after the first season, and I'm also glad we made the correct choice.

[@belgium_solo_vers]

You dint

[@R0bot4]

@@TheVnator i kinda watched it all and ignored the sexual assault stuff. It is anime, kinda difficult to get around that tbh xd. It is one of the series that just wasted my time i believe but sometimes that is all you want i guess.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

That one image of pregnant child loli I saw once turned me off it even further after I stopped the first time

[@jonny8774]

Emotional immaturity

[@brambleblaster]

Respect to Escanor for being the only consistently cool character throughout the show. As deserved.

[@noranizaazmi6523]

King honestly

[@lynxfresh5214]

Escanor was too good for the franchise tbh, it was truly unique that the strongest member of the Sins was the only one with a human lifespan before the power-creep went wild.

[@Brasswatchman]

Haven't seen the second season. What's so great about him?

[@MrGksarathy]

Nah, Escanpr simping after Merlin of all people dampened the cool factor for me. Honest best character for me is Diane. That woman fought tooth and nail for her agency as it was repeatedly stolen. She's also hot, so...

[@ginger2114]

Shout out to Ban for impregnating a loli and making me see that cursed abomination.

[@WaketheFallen131]

“if you thought THAT was the end, SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER! Because we’ve gotta fight a final boss monster who popped out of nowhere and has nothing to do with anything!” man, if Kishimoto didn’t actually send that cease and desist bc of the shadow clones he should have DEFINITELY sent one for that.

[@andrewowens4421]

I love Kaguya as a character... but she should have never showed up in the anime/manga proper. She wasn't foreshadowed even a little and she was soley meant as a way to wrap up loose plot threads.

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

I don't understand why they did that. They could've made that whole ordeal its own movie to tie into the sequel. Why randomly cram it into the ending?

[@FreshPrinceOfBelA17]

​@@andrewowens4421 to be fair she kinda was when you look at things in full screen

[@Happyfoam-lw3yt]

​@@GamerSlyRatchet1because if they didn't, the plot would've legitimately ended. Can't have the cash cow end, right?

[@kl3321]

Lmao

[@haleymckay2067]

The portrayal of women instantly shut me off. I just thought it was so stereotypical and garbage, so much potential down the drain. And the comparison to Mineta is spot on, how can we be expected to root for a literal predator???

[@DanielZeal]

Yeah, honestly it's almost like the writer wanted to make the most 2000s anime that the world had ever seen

[@Zero-Descent]

I hate this anime but clearly you have no idea what's going on in the story. Being a predator and going after the literal reincarnation of your true love is completely different. Both Mel and Liz are immortal, just immortal in different ways so how can you say mel is a predator when they've both been alive for thousands of years?

[@haleymckay2067]

@@Zero-Descent oh my lord, i guess sexual harassment is ok if you’ve been together for eternity. Listen to yourself, it isn’t ok no matter what the context. Ur the problem bud

[@Zero-Descent]

@@haleymckay2067 Sexual harrassment isn't sexual harassment when it's consensual, you're the problem bud. You watch shows and don't pay attention to context or nuance and you just make assumptions.

[@haleymckay2067]

@@Zero-Descent consensual? She didn’t even remember him. She never said it was ok, at least at the beginning. I cringe to think of what ur definition of “consent” is cause that ain’t it. I’m done talking to you, go learn how to respect woman instead of debating over a topic you have no experience with

[@pkfire7677]

My favorite part of the show is when the demons can push any persons soul out of their body so they can eat it and then they continue to not use that power at any point ever to win a fight, nor does meliodas use it ever despite being a demon.

[@jerryudenkwo]

Facts its such a broken ability, I always laugh when people compare meliodas abilities against Naruto or luffy and even other characters and meliodas just lose for dumb reasons

[@faceoctopus4571]

@@jerryudenkwo If he never thinks to use it in canon, why would he think to use it in a hypothetical crossover fight?

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

Meliodas doesn’t like using his demon powers when not fighting demons and some of the commandments do try and do that melascula tried to bans but it somehow escaped and she gave up then she tried escanor soul not realizing it was the sun and burnt herself so when 2 of the sins have ways to block soul damage she probably sent the memo “ guys don’t try and eat the souls of the sins it doesn’t work “

[@ZrodyApo]

Kind of funny that Escanor, who is the most relatable and least disturbed character in the story, got yeeted out of the story in the most badass way so he wont witness the shit show that happens in the end

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

I choose to believe he caught a glimpse of what was coming somehow and went "Welp, better go while the gettin's good. Later nerds."

[@colonelmustang854]

So basically, Escanor Bardock’d his way out of the story, where he saw the future and decided “And I now welcome the sweet embrace of death”, except what he saw was worse than anything Dragon Ball GT could throw at him. Kind of appropriate, considering his English VA is also Gohan.

[@Perry....]

​@@colonelmustang854This comment got a good laugh out of me. The thought that Bardock saw into the future of how whack Super would become so he just noped out is hilarious

[@ajgameguy3674]

​​@@Perry.... mean, from what was shown in the latter chapters of the Granolah arc, he had a bit of a hand in what went down there.

[@cyrusmann5443]

He wasn't killed, he was spared.

[@BenMarcWilliams]

Man, the way you describe how Gowther uses brainwashing to get himself a girlfriend, and mindfucks his allies for shits and giggles, it's like someone misplaced a memo that he's supposed to be a villain.

[@steelheart538]

Yeah, it's pretty f up. If this was in another show or series, Gowther would probably be considered a very hateable villain.

[@nik0938]

Yeah, and of course that is bad because it's 7ds

[@mikebipping6166]

he IS a villain. just a half villain though because of the whole Demon Race things that end up destroying everyone's relationship with him around the climax of the story.

[@Dave102693]

@@mikebipping6166 anti-villain?

[@BladeDevil]

and the cast just goes hey man, stop it. "oh ok sorry" and they just forgive him for all the shit he does.

[@quintonchurch4064]

"There's a time and place for fanservice, and Seven Deadly Sins seems to think it's when people are f***ing dying." Let's be honest - Seven Deadly Sins think it's "all the time, everywhere."

[@kfcbrazil7284]

The sequence at 44:50 is absolutely hysterical to me for some reason and I cannot stop replaying it. Everything about it just has me in stitches, gray-haired guy punching at nothing, blonde guy flailing his weird shadow arms at nothing, the giant girl kneeling over looking like she's having an existential crisis, and everybody else is just vibing. Truly one of the anime of all time.

[@bluemonster5235]

hawk is a little surprised to say the least

[@xxvskrunkle]

💀

[@ultimaxkom8728]

Lmao

[@jswp5]

The concept of amnesia has been a disaster for every culture’s literary canon

[@lynxfresh5214]

It's in the top three worst tropes in fictional works imo (as in tropes that are not only overdone but if they're not don't well it completely wrecks the narrative), the other two being time travel and love triangles/Vs. Dishonourable mention to "It was all a dream/illusion".

[@martinsalvatico]

The only anime I can think of that did the amnesia concept well is Attack on Titan, when the king deleted all the memories of the nation's citizens so they wouldn't remember the days of the Eldian Empire.

[@JoyKirbs]

​@@martinsalvatico If we're going to look at upcoming anime, ReZero's third season looks to be covering Arcs 5 and 6 of the LN. Arc 6 in particular has one of my favorite uses of the amnesia trope in all of fiction, which I won't spoil here. Perhaps saying that the trope is there could be considered a spoiler, but, memory has been a driving theme since season one, so, I don't really count it.

[@Bussy_Destroyer]

Disco Elysium tho

[@appelofdoom8211]

Amnesia where we don't know squat about the characters past is fine but overdone. Amnesia on characters we've already met is the worst because it doesn't have the intrigue of a hidden past. It's usually just an excuse for a character to suddenly act stupid by joining an evil organization or reset a relationship.

[@SlickAndroid94]

"Her true form is that of yet another 3000 year old loli". As someone who thought Merlin's adult form was sexy as hell, that is just heartbreaking and cruel. WHY make her a loli?!

[@jamiekagemori1299]

Because the author is fucked up

[@SingWhenTheEndComes]

Japan; it’s all they know.

[@SlickAndroid94]

@@SingWhenTheEndComes as someone who remembers Kiss Shot from Bakemonogatari, I have this to say: STOP TURNING HOT ANIME WOMEN INTO LOLIS! I miss the days of Lupin the Third.

[@MrGksarathy]

Honestly, as someone who thought Merlin's adult form was too fanservicey to the point of being fetish retardant, it was funny as hell.

[@mikebipping6166]

@@SlickAndroid94 you miss the old days? ah, that’s right. YOU'RE TOO OLD!

[@rippilot2113]

The moment when Dreyfus comes back and it's revealed that "OOOOH look he was the TRUE mastermind all along!!" was about when I realized how much of an ass pull every single plot turn in this show was.

[@judaihyuga]

I actually think there's potentially interesting storytelling to be found in the whole 3000 year old Loli thing, if someone besides Interview With a Vampire, would explore the frustration and problems that come with being trapped in a child's body. If the fairies weren't able to alter their age at will, but just stopped aging at that point, there is a lot you can do with that idea to make it something truly great. Claudia from Interview With a Vampire is probably my favorite part of that movie, because the situation she finds herself in would become a nightmare after your mind has matured well past your static body. Her rage over being stuck as a child, while yearning for someone that refuses to acknowledge her as an adult was a genuinely fascinating take on the "immortal" character that doesn't get explored nearly enough.

[@hamnporkgamer]

Oh so baby doll from batman

[@judaihyuga]

@@hamnporkgamer Exactly like Baby Doll

[@christopherdetrick5802]

This concept is touched on in the movie/book Let The Right One In

[@liambradshaw7550]

The only time I've ever seen this sort of concept executed pretty well is with Babette in Skyrim, she was turned into a vampire when I think she was like 12 or 13 and when the game takes place she's about 300 and is using her looking like a child to her advantage as an assassin of the dark brotherhood because no one in their right mind is going to even suspect a little girl of being a seasoned killer let alone be afraid of one

[@miticaBEP07]

They tried doing a similar thing in Eternals with Sprite, who's in love with adult-looking Ikaris.

[@shonenbois]

Jericho got done so dirty with how she essentially goes after the son after being rejected by the father lmao The big Age gap relationships just keep getting worse….

[@youtube-kit9450]

There was so much terrible writing and shit going on in NNT that I deadass blocked out all the creepy sexual shit. Was fun back in the day to read chapter for chapter (online for free, ain't paying for that garbage) and going to the forums and subreddit to mercilessly make fun of the story.

[@marocat4749]

I like to think she shonest to god just is a caretaker.

[@oompa1274]

@@marocat4749 i too am in denial 😔

[@TeamNoAffiliation]

Watching again, because it was really good to begin with

[@KinglyRed]

Also she literally turned evil because she can't have him. And she also trained him since he was a child.

[@HBpenman]

When Elaine got her wings for the first time, I was kinda hoping she would gain an adult form, you know like King did a season later. Author had an out but decided not to take it.

[@MrGksarathy]

Her final form was more or less an adult form, just very petite. It just came way too late.

[@NegaHumanX]

The evil Elaine reintroduction was a pretty good chance to change up her design. She could have aged herself up to match Bon and kept the form afterward.

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Siiiiiiiggghhhhh

[@MrGksarathy]

@@NegaHumanX Again, it did actually happen, but quite a bit later, around the time Harlequin got his own adult form.

[@NegaHumanX]

@@MrGksarathy Which episode did she get it? I thought Harlequin got his adult form right off the bat (Isn't it his fat form?) and google doesn't show her looking any older as far as I can find. I think I stopped watching around the time the big rock was dropped on Elizabeth, which might be where my confusion is coming from.

[@TheSmithy7113]

Wait... Jericho goes for Ban's kid? WTF?

[@timothymclean]

Apparently the author was a big fan of Twilight.

[@SinnerZMoon]

Yup. It happens in the sequel

[@Potentialman-vs2cd]

“IT SHOULD BE ME, NOT HIM! ITS NOT FAIR!”

[@redhotchikapepr8978]

I think the absolute worst thing about this show is the fact that the fan base absolutely refuses to accept the reality that Meliodas may be one of the creepiest characters in anime history and they are willing to die on that hill.

[@firewolfandrewb]

And then will turn around and act victimized when people say anime fans are creeps.

[@jonny8774]

You care too much about fictional matter. Please get a life.

[@xChaosFlower]

Says alot about people, honestly.

[@verti3213]

Current harem isekais are much worse than SDS

[@jonny8774]

@@verti3213 Honest question: Why? What are the problems exactly?

[@ObsidianOx-GM]

"There are still 16 episodes left." You know things are going badly when the audience looks up how many episodes they have left.

[@ForSoxialBoy]

Even worse when you look at 16 and think "WHY SO MANY?!"

[@McDoora]

or it could be good, "Only 16 left?? :( " yknow

[@gordonwong2260]

Power levels were the worst things to be introduced to this series

[@10tailedbijuu]

I wouldn't say so, given we only ever hear it brought up a few more times to show how much of a power up from training different characters get or from a power up, the escanor vs melinda and to show how powerful Cusack and Chandler are, those are the last two times we ever hear it brought up again.

[@MP-cj6df]

Showing power levels with numbers is bad writing in general

[@shcdemolisher]

I pretty much bailed when that was introduced. (though I was watching the show becuase of the game and I was curious with what the content was in the anime) hell I even quit the mobile game the show was based on, but by then I quit when I got around....... uh. It was after we meet Merlin. I can't remember exactly. Though I will say the Demons are a bit... lackluster in design, though this is from someone who's more used to Doom 2016 where the enemies are actually threatening and would wipe everyone off the map.

[@chrisdaughen5257]

They're not always terrible. But they need to be introduced near the beginning. It's a bad sign if power levels are just jammed into the setting after the first arc. I remember when Yu Yu Hakusho suddenly started evaluating every characters' combat traits in it's last arc. It was done so awkwardly, it didn't add anything to the fights. Plus by that point, the main characters had gotten so strong, it was unnecessary to hold them to a grading system. It's the same with SDS. I think characters stopped mentioning power levels halfway through the Commandment arc.

[@CrowTRobot]

Not the sexual assault, pedophilia, grooming and brainwashing?

[@DenBlackwolf]

Seven deadly sins is about pedophilia... The main characters whole thing is that he keeps running into his lover when she's a child, sticking with her until he takes her as a lover, and then eventually she gets her memory back and dies. Also, when she gets to adult hood, the script flips, because he chooses to look 12-14 consistently. His besty is sleeping with someone in the body of a child, and its brushed off as being okay because they are both immortal. Imma stop repeating that point now, as it the blanket excuse for everyone. Merlin reveals that her body is an illusion, and she is actually forever stuck in the body of a 6 year old. When her love interest learns of this, he implies that it's hot, and asks to hear about the baby talk she used to use with her "big sister". The Fairy king meets the giant when she is a little girl. At the time, he looks like a man in his late 40's, and falls in love/lust. Later on when she grows up, he takes the form of a child, and continues his pursuit of her. The protag's brother looks like a tween who falls in love with a busty vampire milf that uses Mommy talk on him. And that is legitimately not even all of the examples. Every relationship in SDS is either literally, or at the very least, visually, between a young child and an older adult. With, "no its okay because they are a vampire/fairy/demon/angel/immortal/curse victim" etc... popped in to justify it.

[@Moocow2003]

maybe the real Deadly Sin was the pedophilic relationships they made along the way

[@soyjoyy]

I'm pretty sure some "romance" writers use fantasy settings SOLELY to justify grooming and pedophilia. "How do I make my pedo fantasies appear more palatable? Oh I know: fantasy race of forever-child-in body-and-mind!"

[@Paratet]

Trust me, reading the manga as that last arc of fuckery going on was far more painful than the anime. At least with the anime you could binge it all in a day or two. We waited weeks while the demon king kept getting resurrected and characters kept turning evil for no reason other than the editors wanted to wring this series for all the blood it could. This series is a prime example of why you shouldn't create a story based on one good idea.

[@samflood5631]

Case in point, Seven Deadly Sins is the anime equivalent of either Twilight or the Kissing Booth trilogy in terms of how bad it is.

[@bravado2809]

I read the Manga as it was released and describing it as a slippery slope of falling down an escalator for 24 hours is much more accurate than I'd like to admit.

[@thakillman7]

You'd think it could do something right by pure chance but the series somehow defies all logic. I kept reading in the hope that something would salvage it, and after Rock-kun it was just spite.

[@ConvincingPeople]

This was somewhat similar to my experience of watching the first half of Love Flops, albeit worse because of the time frame and because, frankly, you know *exactly* what you're watching happen when you watch Love Flops willingly.

[@ScotRotum]

I read 2/3 of the manga. Early on Meliodas and a holy Knight throw a spear at each other from different towns. Each character being a walking intercontinental ballistic missile was the coolest thing I'd I've seen. Then every Escanor scene was pure Chad energy. The series does some of the greatest power fantasy writing. But the actual plot being an ourborus of ass pulls ruined it for me.

[@bravado2809]

@@thakillman7 Hey Nakaba Suzuki, what plot twist have you come up with to keep the readers engaged now that you're entering the final arch of your beloved Manga series? "Rock falls, she dies." What? "LMAO, jk."

[@HexCypherr]

reading the manga as aired was such an experience im glad i was a part of it really just wouldn't fucking end

[@themocaw]

The rock falling out of nowhere to smash Elizabeth had me rolling.

[@SolarMoonWave]

Oh my God, they killed Elizabeth!

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

@@SolarMoonWave YOU BASTARDS!!

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

In the manga that was the most shocking shit.

[@alexandermarc5641]

@@SolarMoonWave You bastards!

[@LaZodiac]

The rock fallng to crush her was the cliffhanger for a weekly chapter when that "final" arc ended, when all the writing on the wall was that the series was over and going to end soon. It was so fucking funny the week that chapter came out.

[@The_Masked_0ne]

As someone who was in process of watching this I commend you sir. My brain broke down at the Loli girl moment and I stopped watching it. I was already annoyed by Meliodis constantly harassing Miss Mary Sue with no response from her. So hats off to you because even listening to it I got lost. The only loss I gained was knowing Escanore dies, he was the only one I genuinely enjoyed.

[@PixP6]

Hello i am here to remind you that since chaos created the gods and the demons and they created meliodas and Elizabeth... They're cousins...

[@MegaPieru3000]

You should read the manga. The anime is a really bad adaptation.

[@zemox2534]

Honestly I think the series (manga included) is badly written. The sequel is no better. Just my opinion of course.

[@jonny8774]

Scared of an anime girl? Pathetic.

[@samflood5631]

Escanor left because he knew that his teammates are a bunch of pedophiles and the woman he has a crush on is 3000 year old girl with the body of a 12 year old.

[@stuartward1755]

If it turned out the Author got caught with a bunch of CP on his computer, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.

[@CypressPunk34]

I was once forced to watch an episode of this show without context. When i tried to excuse myself and leave the guy showing it to me put his hand on my shoulder and pushed me back down into the chair. I should add he was forcing me to watch it without sound, on his phone, in a cafeteria.

[@akinmytua4680]

😮

[@ConvincingPeople]

Did he want to not have to suffer his dread knowledge alone or was he just a really weird dude? Both can be true at once, of course.

[@CypressPunk34]

@@ConvincingPeople he wanted to show me how Eligor's powers worked because we had talked about the show the day before and he had mentioned Eligor.

[@CypressPunk34]

@@ConvincingPeople or, eskinor. Not eligor.

[@ConvincingPeople]

@@CypressPunk34 Hmmm. So the subtype of "really weird dude" where it's "overly invested in explaining something despite the other person's pronounced lack of interest."

[@meridamorou9144]

The fact that they could have made Elaine older and have more adult body would probably somehow save her.

[@sillyrabbit8840]

Literally

[@treasureboxgaming7109]

The demon king telling the brothers their girlfriends are dead and you reusing the same script for both had me cracking up.... Edit: until you explained it.

[@bloodyomega7837]

I cannot believe I thought this anime was good dear lord I must’ve been really young. Fucked up ships involving sexual assault through reincarnations and memory wipes, showing fan service when people are literally dying, introduces interesting powers or characters for a few moments only for us to never see them again, and so much more. You made me laugh out loud many times with the many messed up things you pointed out that just completely went over my head. Thank you so much for telling us the countless flaws this anime has it was very fun.

[@amberjadetracy22]

So sad you didnt mention the whole dramatic part of that damn pig being burned to death only to resurrect as a tiny pig later the same episode. Instantly pissed me off

[@MrEndstage]

Did they ever explain what that talking pig was

[@Vamptre]

@@MrEndstage Wasnt that pig like the kid of the huge green mossy one

[@niclas1924]

​@@Vamptreno, Hawk came from the place the demon King was traped in. And Hawks "mom" was just the demon Kings "puppet" to keep an eye on Meliodas

[@Vamptre]

@@niclas1924 Oh dangg i only remember the gag of that thing being its mother but that makes way more sense

[@JonasRosado]

​@@MrEndstagekinda. Hawk was taken from purgatory at birth or at least shortly after birth

[@paperboy1116]

25:12 don't forget, he killed her dad too. Gowther is probably the only character that deserves to be called an anti-hero. Actually, he's just a terrible person.

[@leiderhosen7110]

Anti hero? No. This is Anti VILLAIN territory: An actual psychopath that commits horrible acts that at least sometimes also does good when motivated.

[@questioningespecialy9107]

And you know why? Because he stopped wearing the armor that kept his morals in check... to help her dad. T-T Still terriblu, though. edit: Hold up. Killed her dad. Erased memory of her brother. Dude was an isolating abuser playing the long game. Holy fudge nugget.

[@Dave102693]

@@leiderhosen7110 a shitty Accelerator

[@clarehidalgo]

@@questioningespecialy9107 Spoiler: Well, he wouldn't have needed the armor in the first if he hadn't turned off his emotions when his first girlfriend, the king of Liones' sister who had a heart condition, died and didn't want to deal with the new emotions he experienced from her death

[@questioningespecialy9107]

@@clarehidalgo Don't go blaming him for his own desperate mistakes. 😔

[@AwesomeShrekku]

The shows romance story is essentially a woman gets raped again and again by a terrible protagonist then gets Stockholm syndrome and fall in love with him and has a child.

[@flowerbloom5782]

Yeah I saw this coming when the mc acted like mineta. Yeah I noped this anime and I’m glad

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

Meliodis saying hands off my woman while holding baby Elizabeth was so funny 😭

[@samflood5631]

Because of how funny it was, or how uncomfortably bad it was due to Meliodis acting like a new born baby is going to be his wife someday.

[@adaon2282]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@samflood5631it’s funny because its uncomfortably bad

[@markwuahlbuargg4780]

I'm exhausted just hearing the recap of the series, I can't imagine how the people who watched the whole thing must have felt X3

[@BlueBlazeKing]

Try reading the manga weekly

[@asthmaticbee]

@@BlueBlazeKing Oh god, right? I think around the time of the purgatory bs I just held on because I wanted to know just how stupid the ending could get. I expected nothing and was still disappointed.

[@BlueBlazeKing]

@@asthmaticbee I believe I fully gave up when the Demon King possessed Zeldris. Like I remember reading the chapter with some friends during lunch and went on a whole 5 minute rant about the mangaka being a hack

[@draconomega]

@@BlueBlazeKing I stopped watching when they defeated him for the first time. I never knew the show kept going because i tought it ended there xd

[@draconomega]

honestly saved myself from a waste of time, and by then the only thing that kept me going was curiostity on how it was goin to end

[@dr.pepperbiggestfan]

seeing elane who looks like a child pregnant was deeply upsetting. just,,,,, why. why? why does she have to look like she’s 10? why did god permit this to be made? why didn’t he step in and stop this? i think i need to lie down

[@deenman23]

considering he doesnt step in to stop child rape and deaths of hunger in real life,i asume the reason is he doesnt exist or is a major asshat

[@JessesanMan]

We know why 😢

[@kayrupe125]

Lol because there is no god

[@MarcosSantos-jb8qb]

Not only that, but all the fairys have an adult form. WHY DIDN'T THEY MADE HER PREGNANT IN HER ADULT FORM? I hate ban and his "love" story.

[@Savieor]

I just wished that Elaine was an adult like king.

[@benjaminkern6450]

"The Worst Anime You Can't Stop Watching" Wait, this ain't Sword Art Online

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

I mean, a lot of people stopped watching after the Fairy Dance Arc

[@DevDog98]

​@@zinkheroofyoutube8004 that arc killed SAO it was a legitimately interesting anime until that fucking arc. ive never dropped anything quicker than that show after watching that nonsense.

[@SkyGrizzzley]

21:57 "And Jericho finally gives up on him and settles on trying to fuck their son." Sounds like a Twilight plot copy pasta if I've ever seen one.

[@realmdarkness]

I can't believe what they did to Merlin in the end. The complete destruction and decimation of her character at the end was so sudden and so completely out of nowhere, I actually find myself impressed at how bad that was

[@MrGksarathy]

For me, the problem was only the loli suit part. Otherwise, I always thought she was too shifty and never particularly liked her character, even if I did enjoy her magicking solutions to various problems the Sins faced.

[@zemox2534]

​@@MrGksarathy It gets worse when you consider the fact that Arthur turned evil and became the big bad of the sequel series, all because of her!

[@mysteriousdestiny6672]

​@@zemox2534 And the worst part is this is all because she had a unrequited crush on Meliodas

[@brutalnobody5240]

​@@zemox2534well ...chaos

[@honeycheesechips]

@@mysteriousdestiny6672 WHAT😀

[@willyonamountain]

The Meliodus / Elizabeth relationship explanation made me feel like I was going insane.

[@Pathfinder-qp1he]

i dont think it was emphasized enough how what meliodus and king were doing was TEXTBOOK grooming too like wtf its so gross

[@willyonamountain]

@@Pathfinder-qp1he as the explanation went on, it just sounded worse and worse lol

[@e0jay]

@@Pathfinder-qp1he But it's okay because Elizabeth was always meant to be Meliodas' lover, so might as well prep her for it... (sarcasm)

[@Pathfinder-qp1he]

@@e0jay I was gonna lose my shit until I read the sarcasm lol

[@JV-nm1fy]

@@Pathfinder-qp1he isn't Meliodus the Literal embodiment of lust?

[@limiTraveler]

Yeah, I tapped out after two episodes because Meliodas' leechery was just too gross. There's fanservice and then there's whatever the hell this was.

[@ieshareath1191]

Same

[@FayeLawnKrack3d]

Remember when this anime was about fighting corrupt knights? It should have been that simple.

[@AlexTenThousand]

"The whole point of scouters in the original Dragon Ball was that relying on them too much made the Frieza Force worse at fighting" And thus, Geoff singlehandedly destroyed the arguments that 99% of the Dragon Ball Z fandom keeps having online

[@obliviongigan6360]

What arguments?

[@ShiftySetax]

Sad thing is I've heard this point being brought up for years and people STILL argue power levels forever.

[@AlexTenThousand]

@@obliviongigan6360 That people just keep talking about power levels and how someone is stronger than someone else because big number go grrr

[@johndevlin9225]

It's unfortunate that pretty much every fight after Vegeta and before Kid Buu *was* won by whoever had the higher power level. It kinda kills the series' message in its first half.

[@Dave102693]

@@johndevlin9225 power levels aren’t even discussed anymore after Far Buu was revived

[@dmwanderer9454]

The mental hoops to justify pedo behavior and rape in anime is honestly impressive

[@stephvondames6369]

I know right.😑🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Dave102693]

Fire Force is right up there

[@lynxfresh5214]

It somehow gets worst in the sequel (Four Knights of the Apocalypse) I had to drop it, not even sunken costs could allow me to continue further.

[@thedeviantguy]

Seriously. Like the Jobless Reincarnation fans who think it’s okay to have sex with children if you surgically implant your brain into the body of a child. And that the main character matured because he graduated from molesting a child to having sex with one.

[@Hawkatana]

*"Oh, b-but it's-uh.... it's fictional! A-And that justifies literally every decision in the show! Never mind that art isn't made in a vaccum and it was still made by real people who thought that shit was okay!"* Seriously, that non-argument is all they have.

[@IAmTheBugInsideYou]

I stopped watching it after the season with the tournament arc done bad, but I can't believe Arthur's little floating plushy cat ended up being the final final final boss lmao, that's such a hilarious ass pull.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

And it doesn't even end there for real.

[@1000MZ1000]

The f*ing adoptive fox dad sent me flying 😂 It is impressive someone can come up with such convoluted crazyness

[@xChaosFlower]

Wouldn't be surprised if the writers were on something when they wrote it

[@TheInzombiac]

This show really is the embodiment of "that was a good idea, so let's do it poorly" Best example is the chaos final fight. The idea of meliotis being stuck in an illusion where he thinks he has to fight chaos alone because everyone else grew old and died is super cool, but it is so poorly written and so awfully resolved that it hurts by how much of a waste of potential it is

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Yeah but brainwash all the races to believe one guy was actually another one to screw up the balance is interesting but it’s just dumb how they did it

[@abvvi3319]

No cause there were so many good ideas and character design that were WASTED on this story. Just makes you want to rewrite it out of disappointment

[@sethhowell3067]

Just watch the episode of Persona 4 the Animation where they fight the gamer guy to see that concept done well

[@Light-at-Dawn]

​@sethhowell3067 Amen to that 🫥. Because there were so many points of potential good storytelling. Instead, we got this flaming pile of garbage

[@EyeoftheU]

*Common story-telling wisdom:* What makes a cliché a cliché is the fact that the audience considers them overused and predictable, but the audience also tend to forget that they are overused exactly because they _work._ The trick is often simply to give some sort of a new spin on them, so they seem fresh. *Seven Deadly Sins:* So, what you're saying is that we should do them at least twice as much?

[@shcdemolisher]

Everyone else with common sense hearing the responce from 7DS: NO YOU IDIOT!!

[@azoth6641]

SDS: So, I need to do it thrice as much? Geoff: I'm sorry, Rent-a-Girlfriend, I was too harsh on you.

[@nova_supreme8390]

It is like with wilted lettuce. You just give it a good rinse under ice cold water and it seems much more fresh.

[@thesacredlobo]

And sometimes you don't even need a new spin on them so much as a solid execution.

[@lenaalt2387]

@@thesacredlobo the troper's code of honor

[@SqueenTangerine]

"That's right, her name is Ass!" I don't know why but this killed me. At least this anime makes sure we know what really matters about this character.

[@lillydee5978]

There was a lot I liked about Seven Deadly Sins, but there was even more that I hated. I was done with the series when Bon's wildly inappropriate and sketchy romance with Elaine came to light 🤮 I know technically she was thousands of yrs old, but c'mon, we all know what it looked like, and when Bon made a point to mention how much he liked her underdeveloped body, that's when I was done.

[@phanton9983]

Merlin accidentally leaving the door to hell open acually sounds like the premise of a great show...

[@ineedtopiss6249]

Oops! I accidently left the gates of hell open and brought Armageddon on earth !

[@Savieor]

@@ineedtopiss6249Oh shit! There goes Lucifer murdering the populace again. Sorry guys kinda forgot was in a rush to my lab lol

[@ibitorucookey-gam7503]

Gigguk ref

[@emenefer]

One thing that you didn't mention is the armor of the background character holy knights. In the early seasons, only the big bad special holy knights had funky armor with weird colors and abilities and shit. The background knights had regular, semirealistic metallic armor. But in later seasons, everyone just has whacky, colorful armor like medieval power rangers. Always bugged me.

[@andrewowens4421]

I will admit that I like the _designs_ of all the armor, even if they were spammed toward the end.

[@MrGksarathy]

True. This was a huge loss from the power creep, and I'm glad Four Knights of the Apocalypse has brought it back. Nakaba always excelled at creating monster of the week and miniboss Holy Knights. It helps that this is where he can lean on the Matter of Britain the most.

[@antonioaguera4580]

The best bit of the story in the video is the dead look in your eyes as you state there are still 16 episodes to go. Also... thank you for doing this and helping me avoid this series after episode 5 or so.

[@XiviIsLevitating]

istg bro why did they make elane look like a child? Its disgusting i get that shes a fairy and fairies are small and all but jesus christ this is bullshit.

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

Like, they could have made her the same height she was without making her an actual child. Also, we see with King that fairies can shapeshift into adult forms, so why not have her look like that?

[@XiviIsLevitating]

I think the creator or the character designer is just a disgusting individual in general.

[@greenapple9477]

​@@XiviIsLevitatingYeah, there's seriously no excuses to putting all that nasty shit in.

[@dbslayer7]

This sh*t was legitimately hard to sit through. Anime perviness is one thing but systematically r***ing a woman by altering her memories to make her believe she loved you and even forget about her own family. I felt pain in my chest.

[@spooky6703]

Then we're supposed to like this guy! If a villain did it, and the heroes said a collective "Ok, no, we're gonna go fuck this guy up", then that'd be different. But no, all of that is fine, but if he puts on a skirt than that's weeeiiiirrrrrd

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

I was like "Damn, did you really have to make the gods of the Greek Pantheon seem like decent people by comparison?"

[@elipticalecliptic481]

how do you even write that and then think "ok this guy's still a hero tho" like that's a fucking psychological horror movie here; literally having one of the "heroes" brainwash a woman into literally forgetting her family (of which consists of a *child who depended on her for survival* ) and into being in love with him like good god

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

​@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets Hell no. If you knew shyt about shyt about Greek Mythology, you'd stuff socks in your mouth; I get it, brain washing a woman is rotten, but don't go acting like anyone in Greek was a saint. Zeus alone was a serial rapist. Often times shapeshifting in the act. Man transformed into a bull and carted a woman away to an island where she had his kids. Or the story of Antiope where he'd transform into a Satyr, fucked her, and she ran away fearing her father's wrath if he found out.

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

Good lord. Calm yourselves mate. Run off to your safe space, sheesh, anime is not real brother. All characters and situations are drawn, fictious imaginations. Mother's basement has the most fragile fanbase on the planet.

[@superzilla784]

For me, Escanor was the best reason to watch. the man defeated two villains without leaving where he stood, and was immune to most disability spells. such as the spell that stole all your stamina and rendered you too weak to stand up. this spell was activated if you showed any hatred for your enemy. but Escanor didn't feel a thing. he then walked right up to the villain's face. "How can I hate those weaker than me? All I feel is pity." This sent the villains into orbit with rage. I freakin' loved it. he was a true Chad.

[@Savieor]

Honestly i’m glad he died before the chaos arc, I would had jumped off if he lost his chad status.

[@dangerousdays2052]

How immature do you have to be to pick your favorite character based on how strong they are instead of real reasons like character development and personality traits.

[@Savieor]

@@dangerousdays2052 Pffffffft…Personality traits? You mean Diane and king’s only showtime aside from battle is both blushing and crushing at each other. Meliodas assaulting Elizabeth and Elizabeth still thinking its okay, Gowther has no personality and is pretty much a homunculus 70% of the 5 seasons, Merlin was interesting but the show gave her no real reasons to betray her friends for chaos whist Escanor pretty much was a good character who was into poetry.

[@dangerousdays2052]

@@Savieor Melodias Weinstein was the most entertaining and well developed character. Escanor was a feminist simp

[@Savieor]

@@dangerousdays2052 Meliodas assaulted a minor and all her reincarnations for the past 3000 years, He himself says he cant resist loving her again.

[@pogo8050]

Just listening to the plot synopsis I felt an immediate sense of fatigue for this show without having seen it.

[@lorenzocassaro3054]

I now realized that I rationalized the thing with Ban and Elaine by focusing on the fact that she was a fairy, who was supposed to look petite and young and all... But then I realized that no amount of narrative context could ever be enough to avoid the simple question: "Why? *Why* did she have to look like a pre-teen?!" Don't get me wrong, the idea of the thief falling in love with the queen of fairies and then her sacrificing herself by imbibing him with the fountain of youth's power during a demonic incursion is unironically a great setup for a character like Ban. And yet, that one question still stands, GODDAMIT! I feel like an idiot!😢

[@Ellieescent]

I remember really appreciating how Diane and Elizabeth interacted, even though they initially had the same love interest, they didn't constantly fight each other about it, and instead were just very supportive friends to one another. You don't always get that in shonen.

[@RobinTheBot]

It took nearly 49 years but we have two female characters in a shounen with a friendship unrelated to dick. Now if we can get them to stop breaking rape laws it'll be pretty watchable!

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

@@RobinTheBotthe only rapist is gowther and he has been imprisoned and fixed himself years ago

[@raptorxrise5386]

@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory WHAT? I havent watched the anime past season 2 but i have read the manga and if the anime followed it at all then gowther is not a rapist holy fuck what?

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

@@raptorxrise5386 yea he fucking raped a woman like he and even worse he then erased her memories but not of the rape no of her life before the rape

[@ChristianSandviknes]

It was in the manga too, Gowther brainwashed her into loving him - as he wanted to know what love was@@raptorxrise5386

[@olynodren]

I actually liked the idea that Meliodas was a demon at first. I thought it was interesting for the main character to be a surviving member of a race sealed away 3000 years ago, especially when the broken sword handle he carries around is revealed to be the key to that seal. The happy go lucky MC knowingly preventing the return of his people and family in order to avoid a world destroying holy war seemed pretty cool for a character representing the sin of wrath. But then he's actually the demon prince and gets a depressingly badly animated magic set of clothes to show his edgy dark side. They really soured the rest of small things I liked about the series.

[@projekttaku1]

I think even as a demon prince it could've been interesting. Abandoning his brothers, father and clan but the sake of his friends and the one he loves, only to watch that person die time and time again before him, he hides his wrath and depression with a happy smile, but his anger still leaks out and causes harm to the people he loves. He returns willingly with his brothers to inherit the throne so as to protect his friends and free elizabeth, allowing for some interesting character interactions with estarossa and zeldris, only be further emotionally damaged by the revelation that estarossa is mael and that his father simply wanted to possess, he now fights for the people that truly care for him, completely overcoming his wrath and gaining control over his full power. This could also help develop zeldris's and estarossa's character's, as zeldris could feel resentment and jealousy towards meliodas betraying them, while estarossa can form an actual bond with meliodas that isn't just a memory of ludociel replaced with meliodas, making him all the more conflicted when he regains his memories since now he has actual memories of both ludociel and meliodas as his brother.

[@urilgal]

I think it was still good. I don't understand why i don't see anyone talking about the Merlin/Arthur/Chaos part. That's where I lost it.

[@thewitness257]

if only it did the manga justice that wouldve been so cool

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

It became way too convoluted towards the ending of the show, it just felt like they had no plan so they just kept changing the script and not going back to make sure it actually fit correctly. The show could’ve been interesting if it just stuck to its first explanation instead of adding things to it

[@thewitness257]

@@stellamariefanboy.6768 honestly I was fine with it up until the demon king died, they should've kept the Arthur stuff for the sequel or made a special chapter for it

[@thaearthquake]

This video has been like… I don’t even know how to describe but I laughed a lot. How did the writers think any of this was a good idea? Salute to you Jeff for putting yourself through this pain for us.

[@toazzy9336]

i cant believe "shrodingers pedophile" fits so well for the king & diane vs ban & elaine dynamic so well

[@raiserzero2]

I lost it when the Demon King plot started repeating itself. I was listening while jogging and I had to stop because I started laughing so hard.

[@andrewowens4421]

The artist didn't know what to do with Zeldris but didn't want to straight abandon him either so he repeated the sequence.

[@poseidonson13]

You know, I criticize Netflix a lot for how they've handled their anime licenses, including when they originally held this show back for months on end before unceremoniously dropping it onto their servers. But then, them doing that means I never remembered to watch past season 1, so really they saved me on that one.

[@TheThursty100]

Season 1 had an amazing and consistent German dub Season 2 forward they literally changed more then half the voice actors and switched names/pronunciation of some character names, sometimes multiple times for the same person in the same sentence from the same person.

[@zachrohler1047]

​@@TheThursty100 damn lmao

[@ConvincingPeople]

Oh hey, it's you! Neat!

[@bigbakaboon]

same.

[@dejanbeep6293]

Season 2 was at least fun Escanor carried tho

[@xwtek3505]

A town formed from caves is in fact rather realistic. That's basically Middle Ages Shaanxi. In fact, it would be less likely for an actual stone age person to live in caves permanently than a middle ages person living near a limestone mountain range

[@_itzjustmajor0]

I've stayed up for about 19 hours, and Imma write a better version. -All the wanted posters, except Escanor are the characters actual designs -Elizabeth is 18 -Meliodas is not a pervert, and always tries to drift away from Elizabeth, before she dies, and he hasn't met this version of Elizabeth, except a few times, due to the king's orders -King looks the way he does, because he had eaten away his feelings, after he blindly trusted some humans, where everyone, except him and a few fairies were killed. After that he tried to kill himself, but instead was nursed back to health by Diane. Whose parents were outlawed by the giants and died due to a deadly disease, that was caused by humans. -Elaine actually looks like an adult -Ban again, tried to still the fountain of youth, do to him feeling like he could live a longer life, and actually meet people he could care about. After he met Elaine when she stopped him multiple times, he fell in love with her, but still ended up trying to still the fountain of youth. On accident he ended up killing Elaine and cause the forest to wilt, and it became nothing but ash. -Gowther was a former demon, and one of the 10 commandments, and was close friends with Meliodas. After he found out Meliodas got with Elizabeth though, he caused the holy war, by telling the Demon King, And High Angel (made that name up, it's dumb, I know). -For telling him, The Demon King turned Gowther into a bloodthirsty monster, that felt nothing but pain. -After the holy war, centuries later, Gowther met the same princess, who he ended up falling in love with, but she ended up getting married, causing Gowther to kill everyone in the kingdom due to his lust, including the princess. - Escanors backstory is the same, since he is the best character. -Merlin is an actual grown-up woman, and she's a vampire, but has used magic to decrease the sun's effect on her. -Merlin actually likes Escanor but feel like they'll kill each other. Due to her bloodlust for eating people, and his powers. -Escanor got his sin do to him letting a monster eat a whole village and their souls, just so he can get a good fight. Which still wasn't close, and caused him to have a mental breakdown. And that's all I'm doing because I should go to bed and I hate this show since I liked it at first until the final arc of season one, and everything after that punched me harder than how hard meliodas punches ban. This was dumb.

[@ComradeMaryFromMars]

The fact you're second point has to make a character 18 is a really bad sign honestly

[@samflood5631]

Your retelling of the Seven Deadly Sins is way better than the actual Seven Deadly Sins. Tell me, what other anime rewrites do you have planned?

[@_itzjustmajor0]

@@samflood5631 nice joke bro

[@samflood5631]

@@ComradeMaryFromMars What’s wrong with making a character 18? 18 is the legal age of consent in America.

[@greenapple9477]

@@samflood5631Tell that to the writers to the show, who thought it was a great idea to have a *fully grown man impregnate a child* . Utterly disgusting. Elaine, Elizabeth, Merlin and a few other girls were all underage.

[@ianstauffer2804]

meliodas and mineta are literally just that 'office flirting/sexual harassment' meme

[@Hawkatana]

The difference is that both of them are (rightfully) hated instead of one getting off scott-free (except in-universe, but that's the result of two very different writers).

[@stonks3507]

@@Hawkatana To be fair, I still see more people defend Meliodas than Mineta Edit: Okay I thought about it more, and now I agree with you.

[@babbit09]

I thought of that too, and I agree

[@UnluckyAmulet]

I started this show solely for Ban, but between Elizabeth's whiny voice, the constant sexual harassment by Meliodas, how ludicrously fast-paced everything is and the derpy artstyle, I just could not.

[@crystalfairy912]

Me too! I was so excited for an attractive character closer to my age at the time. Then they introduced Elaine, but I thought “maybe they’re just friends.” Then they weren’t and I thought “well she’s dead, so maybe he can learn to move on.” Then he *didn’t* so I decided I didn’t have to waste my time.

[@lynxfresh5214]

​@@crystalfairy912 Literally all the Sins are traps in some way, from Ban being into ancient lolis to Diane being attracted to shotas that are older than her, Escanor is the least bad of them but it doesn't negate the fact Merlin's true form is a 3000yrs+ old loli that's a thot for Mel (just why?).

[@yaB0i_Hawkx]

​@@lynxfresh5214 i mean he didn't fell in love in merlin bc she was a loli, when her true form was shown he already fell in love with her as a person. In my pov it is less painful than ban x elaine. The pregnancy elaine deeply disturbed me

[@mikebipping6166]

@@yaB0i_Hawkx how? when all of the fairy race are just comically short. that doesn't make sense.

[@vsGoliath96]

​@@mikebipping6166 Oh no, we *did* watch the show. And after watching the show, none of the situations got any better.

[@ilovetrijets]

My mom loves anime. She watches Baki and Bungou stray dogs and her favorite is mob psycho. She tried to watch this one and emailed netflix it was THAT bad. Watching this now to find out what its about and ohhhhhh my god

[@astraltophat_at]

seven deadly sins is what people think all modern anime is the show

[@mst3kharris]

Your description of Gowther’s story arc gave me the absolute creeps. It’s like the Tin Woodsman as sex offender.

[@Dave102693]

🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@steelheart538]

Gowther is like a typical SAO villain

[@xxvskrunkle]

​@@steelheart538💀💀

[@kushsingh4738]

@@steelheart538at least the rapists in SAO are actually portrayed as evil unlike this show. You know you fucked up when SAO did something better than you.

[@Truck-kun11]

Season 1: Good, with great moments and animation. Season 2: It has its problems, but it's still enjoyable, especially Escanor. Season 3: The Memes speak for themselves.

[@ByakuyaKB]

Exactly. I haven't even watched season 3 because of the animation and memes. And I still defend the first season for having some good action scenes (for what it was) and for it's music, I think it's the second opening of the first season that I really liked

[@stoops187]

Yeah I dropped out at season 3

[@sincerelynotme3522]

Escanor was best character

[@anshpaul7087]

Honestly season 3 is just unwatchable. Like in the manga we could just do the whole fight chaos & freeze for later in 10s. In the anime it's just so boring. Everything in season 3 is boring. Season 2 had escanor who just spouts 1 linear like no one's business. Season 1 is decent with good plot, and something payoff like King's friend turned demon who got killed by Ban.

[@sincerelynotme3522]

@@anshpaul7087 What I took away from the show was that we got Escanor as a character....and that was it. Everything else after season 2 was a dumpster fire though. Haven't been that let down since Promised Neverland season 2.

[@Drazil100]

I feel like I fell for the trap... I have never seen this show and I have no idea why I am watching this but I got about half way and was like "Surely this show can't get any worse". There is an entire 22 minutes left. How can a show be this bad?

[@Chunkyloops]

I like the concept of Ban's steal ability overtime as his character develops, developing/evolving into an ability that can transfer/pass on attributes to others. Would be a good case/example of a characters power increasing/maturing as they do/their character develops. It would have been thematically satisfying, if the rest of this shit show wasnt such a horrible/heinous dumpster fire.

[@yourhorseyepona7309]

True! Real shame cuz Ban is one of my fav characters.

[@BlackfangDragon]

The funniest shit is knowing Meliodas and Elizabeth are cousins since their mom and dad are siblings made by the Chaos God. And also then there’s the other aunt/uncle the Big Fairy Tree.

[@lupinajefferson6337]

Yikes

[@Savieor]

When pedophilia wasn’t low enough for the show they had to make it incest

[@gabriellagalli8564]

Sweet home Alabama!

[@timothymclean]

They're two generations from Chaos. Zeus and Hera are siblings, three or four generations from Khaos, and nobody thinks that's weird. Rules are different for primordial beings, I guess.

[@gabriellagalli8564]

@@timothymclean true, so many gods/goddesses marrying their siblings must’ve been common hence the royal families do the same thing to mimic the gods they worship at the time.

[@Truck-kun11]

One thing I think is really cool is Ban and Meliodas' friendship because it's 100% genuine. They're practically brothers, and the first thing they do after seeing each other for the first time in years is make a fuss and play arm wrestling.

[@Master_E444]

While destroying a huge prison. That's one of the funniest parts really.

[@theideaofevil]

Yeah that was legit my favorite part of the show, it had the immaculate vibe of a max level DND party just fuckin' around.

[@Master_E444]

@@theideaofevil Just casually ripping apart the area like it's nothing, all while rough housing with your boi

[@sepg5084]

It's childish, as if they are not ancient beings. I guess it would appeal to children and manchildren 🤦

[@StormSnake0618]

​@@sepg5084 Learn to have fun.

[@dangeki5902]

As a big fan of blue exorcist i did NOT expect to be attacked like this!!! Heres hoping season 3 gets more love tho

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

If there is one.

[@guichabanaano27]

I was also shocked, yeah season 1 ending was pretty bad, but I feel like the Kyoto saga was actually pretty good😭

[@rinarina6247]

The only reason basically anyone does basically anything in this story is to find love, which is weird, right? Like imagine if in John Wick everyone killed everyone else’s dog

[@benny_boiblue8888]

In the last season (i think) when Elizabeth was supposedly killed by that giant rock or whatever i genuinely laughed outloud. No set up, no foreshadowing, just fucking happened out of nowhere and that was probably the funniest shit in the entire show

[@spooksnifff6523]

same, it came completely out of nowhere

[@jorgecortes8383]

SAME! I laughed and dropped the show immediately afterwards.

[@MadLover4690]

​@@jorgecortes8383lmao I dropped the anime right after meliodas called Elizabeth his woman while holding her as an infant. So glad I didn't stick around to see the trainwreck of an ending.

[@sajohnson09]

This was the best part after introducing escanor, like it really went downhill after the throw that tragic lover bullshit, it being because of Merlin made it even funnier.

[@carolbaker2773]

It’s literally a DM getting made at a d&d group saying “rocks fall and everyone dies!” Like I think the writer gave up long before but was still getting paid to write more words

[@andrewlinehan2834]

After ages of dealing with a guy that liked this series too much, this was basically a therapy session for me. Thanks for the mental release man.

[@miljami2336]

DUDE SAME my best friend has a fucking tattoo of this show and cries over it cause he's attached so much nostalgia and sentimentality to it. i have to listen to him being genuinely invested in king x diane cause if i told him this is ass he'd get really hurt😭 thank you mr basement this is so refreshing

[@nik0938]

If you take a cartoon this serious then just don't watch any 💀

[@lucykoelle6602]

@@nik0938 watch Kaguyasama. Maybe don't look at a critic review if you you want to just watch shows without hem being analyzed. Or watch Ascendance of a Bookworm.

[@JohnnyRamRod]

Considering this is my gf's favorite anime....

[@kage6613]

We've all known at least one...

[@pattattauwu2703]

the fact that there is a hentai with better world building than this is enough reason to not watch it

[@Slightlyaggravatedcat]

My only complaint with this is that Merlin is as strong as every other character combined and yet they make her use like 2 of her virtually infinite ability’s

[@PureAwesamness]

My heart honestly sank a bit when you mentioned that people excused Gowther's more atrocious actions by saying, "He's Literally Neurodivergent", because that says a *lot* about how those people think of us. Like, weebs, c'mon, we're neurodivergent; not abusers. What the HFIL is wrong with you?

[@pandapower3076]

Lol. Well, what do you expect when you use vague ass terms like Neurodivergent? The definition says it's someone who isn't mentally typical. This could be anything between high functioning autism to bat shit insane. Maybe yall shouldn't have made up a stupid umbrella word because you thought the actual mental disorder names made you feel bad?

[@madam-mint]

Although I know that it’s a meme, I feel you. I also don’t like it at all.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

Don't try to separate these people from your community, we both know a lot of those people are also LGBT+ people too.

[@gesi7072]

"Weebs"? You mean the writers...

[@PEZZYYYY]

​@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051what has lgbtq+ have to do anything with this

[@ZarlLarlack]

I've heard people legitimately defend Meliodas's groping with the "consent in a previous life" excuse... I was disappointed

[@barongeoffrey75]

I would say consent isn't the problem. Even as a couple you don't do this in public.

[@beatofromuminekorealnotcli4574]

​@@barongeoffrey75consent is definitely the problem

[@dantemaquiavelli9039]

​@@barongeoffrey75 Yes, but as a couple at least you have consent, so both people would just morons and perverts with no regard to the rest of the public. But without that consent, it makes Meliodas someone who is a pervert, a moron and a se* criminal, because I'm pretty sure touching someones chest while unconscious is a form of se*ual harassment or assault. Which is way worse than the first case.

[@jacobwilliams1223]

@@barongeoffrey75 Consent is clearly the problem here.

[@sassyNsarcastic]

I mean...Consent is pretty much already given if she practically throws herself at him instinctively. Like Elizabeth already like him since she was a child. It like she's drawn to him. Meliodas only waits for her assets to grow in before he starts touching🤣😂🤣 And some may say he just grooms her for her to like him when she grows up....Like bro, Liz met him in *the Worst* possible situation and *Still* fell for him even tho her initial thoughts of him was that he was only after her body. All and all, we see far to less of Melioda's interactions with child versions of Elizabeth, and I personally like to think that the Guy who actively tried to keep his people/race, and family imprisoned for the past 3000 years to prevent a Holy War, wouldn't stoop so low as to grooming little children.

[@eris6676]

The objectification of women in this series is what made me want to drop anime in the first place. Now that I'm revisiting it, I'm glad to see that even other anime fans were put off by this and haven't taken it as lightly as other instances of sexism in the medium. Also, because I'm sick of no one saying it, I will: The art style is ugly. The eyes are too big, the nose is too round and prominent, and it's just this really uncanny valley between anime and western cartoon. It looks like it came out of a "How to Draw Anime" book.

[@benakinnusi2518]

I actually dont hate the artstyle. It shines with a good budget like the early seasons, but its *really* ass when the show has no budget like later seasons. Also i really like the art in the manga. Idk I just think this artstyle needs good budget to shine, otherwise, well, you’ve seen the later seasons.