The Worst Attempt to Criticise Avengers: Endgame Ever

[@shadowmaster5597]

How to make a good criticism of a movie: Step 1: Watch the movie

[@pira8ted641]

Step 2: Forget the movie and write a long article about how the movie sucks because of random reasons.

[@jamiee7367]

Step 3: ????

[@jakeand9020]

Step 3: use logic established in other, completely unrelated movies, for basis of what would make sense. Even though it completely goes against the logic established in the movie you're talking about.

[@THEPELADOMASTER]

@@pira8ted641 "...and impose some bullshit ideologies that have nothing to do with the movie"

[@benchmarking6875]

@@jamiee7367Step Profit 4: Profit

[@keyan1219]

Everybody knows that villains attack the earth every five years It’s like the olympics

[@artofcujo]

I like how they logically think earth is the most valuable planet in the mcu

[@keyan1219]

Blake Demers I agree also it wasn’t just earth that lost half the population It’s was also those aliens who suffered

[@josuagreis353]

@@artofcujo It`s even funnier because in Avengers they already state that the universe (or atleast The Crew of Thanos) thought that Earth is weak and the Gotg didn`t even know it exists (and I think they know a lot of planets)

[@cyris2948]

This actually made me legit lol

[@dilophosaurussk4333]

Also there is a large chance a lot of those villains got dusted as well.

[@MrAndyhamms]

Bucky knew Steve was going to stay in the past. He distinctly says "I'm going to miss you buddy." he has absolutely no reason to say that if Steve was coming straight back

[@Kokoroean]

MrAndyhamms isnt’ that just a throwback quote to captain america 1?

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

@@Kokoroean why can't it be both?

[@thebitchinblack8166]

@@Kokoroean The throwback quote was Steve saying "Don't do anything stupid till I get back" which Bucky replied "How can I? You're taking all the stupid with you" in the first Captain America their roles are reversed, that call back was essentially the two characters closure.

[@strawberrieskiwi1012]

I understood that reference from pitch meeting

[@lacari0805]

Also their “don’t do anything stupid/you’re taking all the stupid” is what they said when Bucky went off to war, they both they that it was very likely they would never see each other again, but like if Steve chose to stay in the past and there was a chance he’d die before he came back to the present

[@emilioovalle3070]

I love how they nitpicked that a movie disobeyed the laws of time travel according to another movie in an entirely different franchise

[@lonesavior]

I can't believe Back To The Future violates the laws of time travel clearly explained in Donnie Darko.

[@Metal_Maoist]

Also the Doctor Who comparison doesn't even work there's like a ton of episodes where the Doctor works together with past versions of themselves

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

@@lonesavior lmao

[@Rodanguirus]

It's like they legitimately forgot that it's a fictional (or at best, theoretical) concept.

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

Right. Thanks how film criticism works. How can you criticize a Kubrick film for not being like a better Hitchcock film its not even in the same franchise ... smh ... the fact that people liked this comment shows Jay may not attract the most alt-right audience but he has for himself the dumbest audience imaginable ...

[@AustinPrice184]

Here's my thing Hawkeye literally explains why he's going on this killing spree it's because he feels sickened by the fact that innocent people and his own family died when powerful crime bosses and other Dirtbag scum were spared

[@chikenfartz]

Yeah i wish he brought that up

[@LuxrayLloyd]

Yup

[@AustinPrice184]

@@lucyditee He does he says it in Japanese to the Yakuza boss the exact conversation goes. Yakuza boss: Why are you doing this? We never did anything to you! Hawkeye(Ronin) You survived, half the planet didn't. They got Thanos, you get me.

[@Maltesfilm]

@@AustinPrice184 It was subtitled I assume right?

[@AustinPrice184]

@@Maltesfilm yes it would be a lot to ask of fans to understand Japanese to understand a key scene

[@RJD-kf1xz]

What frustrates me so far about this “review” is that it just seems like they’re complaining that their fan theories weren’t chosen to be in the movie.

[@dragonchr15]

I remember a time when fan theories were restricted to online forums and people geeking out in private... Now it is a top story on Yahoo news.

[@vurvo574]

RJD1116 Like “Young Avengers” How is not confirming your fanfic the #1 issue of a movie?

[@dominickeijzer5844]

Reminds me of people with TLJ and TROS.

[@oddballskull1941]

Oh gee you mean like fucking Star Wars fans

[@oddballskull1941]

“They didn’t use my KZbin film theory video to write episode 8! This movie sucks!...all I asked for was for them to remake episode 4, they did that..and I’m still mad! Fuck you disney you ruined Star Wars..yay they are bringing back George Lucas finally we can fix this..just ignore all those videos I made about how George Lucas ruined the prequels

[@ToyInsanity]

Making fun of screen rant. Super easy barely an inconvenience.

[@napalmblaziken]

Making fun of ScreenRant is tight.

[@joshhunter6928]

The only good thing about screen rant

[@luancosta1908]

@@joshhunter6928 The only reason I'm subscribed

[@alexandratrigg4778]

You need to get all the way off my back about the rest of screenrant.

[@sentientsaladstudios6326]

Whoops

[@bunga_6104]

“They never said anything about a young avengers theory” That’s like saying “You never gave me the 5 bucks you didn’t owe me”

[@toplayDA_]

it's literally just "i had a dream you cheated on me so now im dumping you'

[@who-ny5oe]

​@@toplayDA_that girlfriend is then an idiot

[@toplayDA_]

@@who-ny5oe Yeah that's what I said

[@bobsomething3103]

Another thing that doesn't make sense about Screen Rants whole "Why couldn't they just destroy the stones when Thanos arrived" is that it's stated in the movie that they have to return the stones to their original location

[@somebread7118]

Captain shinshon Stark did u not watch the movie?

[@Treelover123100]

Not location, time period.

[@oskarileppanen1154]

campbell burgess Not where, but when Yeah, I know, I know, I’m gonna slit my throat for that

[@christianarroyo3265]

It's sad how they don't pay attention to crucial details in the movie that are not hidden in any way. Now, I wonder, could they have used the stones from the past to bring back the stones of the present? Not that it really matters anymore but just a thought

[@Fisinocean]

I Just realise sth, couldnt the avengers just went to the garden before thanos destroy the stone?

[@kabobawsome]

Ya know what's funny, the movie literally joked about the silliness of applying movie rules to time travel TWICE.

[@lacari0805]

Die Hard?

[@andrewphillips4681]

@@lacari0805 no that's not one

[@110000116699]

Honestly trying to apply human logic to time travel is ridiculous it's like applying human logic to quantum mechanics the universe is under no obligation to make logical sense to our tiny ape brains there's literally a hypothesis that there is only one electron in the universe

[@nahuelahpa1881]

the movie is awful, people are just idiots

[@darthvader2635]

@@nahuelahpa1881 no your just a sad no life who's dad left

[@Icasus]

6: Bucky says "I'm gonna miss you." You don't say that to someone that is going to be gone for a few seconds. Clearly Bucky knew what Cap was planning to do.

[@orangeinkius7257]

Hes just being safe if Steve doesn't come back

[@ethansmith4503]

He clearly knew he was going to stay in the past.

[@samjackson9560]

Orange Ink no

[@SpringDavid]

@@samjackson9560 explain

[@gilliancarman5659]

I think he knew that Steve wasn't coming back. But you could be right.

[@issa4767]

Does no one remember Hawkeye and Black Widow where described as a "pair of Master Assassins" and that Hawkeye was sent by SHIELD to kill Widow? Why is him being Ronin so hard to grasp for people?

[@dylanherman6666]

Not only that, but he could have done it too, they just came to a compromise and then we get widows origin

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

Because you know HE CHANGED HIS LIFE AFTER meeting BW

[@Jotari]

Hell he's introduced to the series by as a guy who is seconds away from killing a complete stranger just for trespassing.

[@s0LLagal]

@@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 And you know what else changed his life? His family being dusted along with billions if innocent people

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

@@s0LLagal Well that scene itself is literally an impossible scene as Thanos dusted people IN THE AFTERNOON and yet it is morning where Barton is - so it literally not believable what is happening. If you do a piece of fiction it has to be somewhat credible what happened with Barton and his family is not

[@SpongesonicPictures]

Thanos, established to be a sentimental person, talks about his feelings with his daughter. ...What a plothole!

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Does this mean Thanos might have been feeling some sort of way?

[@user-yc6vr8vn5j]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 thanos was feeling some sort of way

[@quietone2674]

"There's problems with Endgame" Me: Well, there's problems with every movie. The time travel bit... "First Item: Thanos would never tell Nebula his retirement plan." Me: Wait, what?

[@Ze_eT]

@CJED It's like 10 minute videos. The longer the website, the more ads they can place on it before the user thinks they are spamming the ads, only that on KZbin it is way easier to see when ads get spammed.

[@pawepetek7294]

@@nahuelahpa1881 oh wow, someone likes what I don't like, how smart and mighty I am

[@louminouz]

Nahuel Ahpa can u stop spamming in everyones replies youre so fucking pathetic

[@dargu05]

Nahuel Ahpa Can please go away?

[@Dg-gf5el]

Why did you insert yourself into this?

[@es_three232]

Saying that Thor wouldn't cut off Thanos's head is basically admitting you didnt understand his entire story arc through the MCU.

[@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151]

That’s like saying Johnny Blaze’s Ghost Rider shouldn’t kill because he’s an angel. It doesn’t make sense. And Zarathos is a spirit of vengeance, and he has no problem killing humans who he deems guilty.

[@OP43e]

Hey which kinda takes away the half point they got for the Thor arc

[@dingdawng]

"You should have gone for the head" - Thanos himself

[@A-Rune-bear]

Spider-Man should eat people alive because he’s a spider.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

​@@A-Rune-bear Spider-Man should have solod Thanks

[@moondowntheface6282]

*It should've been a wave because that symbolizes how Thanos is waving goodbye to the half the universe's population. *It should've been the facepalm because the facepalm symbolizes how he's metaphorically smacking the universe in the face by cutting its population in half. *It should've been him stroking his chin because that symbolizes how he has been thinking of this and planning it for years. *It should've been the dab because the dab is where you dance by throwing your arms around carefully very near your face and that symbolizes how Thanos is careful with his plans. *It should've been a clap because a clap is a sign of praise and it symbolizes how Thanos would be praising himself for killing half of the universe's population. #madeupsymbolismfortheGauntletshandgesturethatitrequiresforyourwish

[@kristenyarbrough4287]

I'm deceased

[@moaPro]

It should’ve been the ok hand sign because it symbolizes how Thanos metaphorically says “gottem” to the universe after killing half of it

[@ShadowMarcus77]

Lmao imagine thor throwing the storm breaker and thanos just casually dabs and erases everyone

[@alienplatypus7712]

He should have done sign language for "I'm a big poo poo boy" because I don't like him and it symbolises that he's a big poo poo boy.

[@juma8126]

It should've been the stereotipical italian hand, because Thanos kind of resembles a mafia boss. It could've also been the horned hand used by metal fans, because the gauntlet is made of metal.

[@CreamFraiche]

"The rules of time travel in this movie are different than the rules for a completely different show therefore its bad"

[@lProN00bl]

It's not even a new time travel concept. DBZ has the same kind of rules for time travel. Sure it's less common but ffs they explicitly say "it's not back to the future style time travel!"

[@italucenaz]

@@lProN00bl but in db super they kinda spit on that in the ep that they kill the present villain and in the future that said villain said that survived because he is using an tima magical ring, not because the past don't affect the future

[@YagamiRizal]

@@italucenaz not really, time ring only for time travel only. it not protect him from getting killed in past. beerus said that after kill current zamasu. same thing happy with trunk arc. what ever happen to cell or android still don't change future trunk timeline

[@offgang2805]

Exactly. In Marvel, comics time traveling always made new universes, Along with the fact every decision a person makes creates a new universe.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@Frank Wells I know you're being sarcastic to make a point, but I want to point out that I genuinely dislike Last Jedi. Not because it tried new things, but because it just... doesn't... work for me. It just doesn't work when I stop and think about it. I could give you a list of every single reason, but it would take more time to read them than it would take for you to watch Exci's current video on Screen Rant's idiocy. It's... it's a long list.

[@VGDocs]

"average crime still happens, look at Clint's Ronin" ...that's how you describe AVERAGE crime Screenrant?!

[@godspeed2272]

Screenrant acting like high up Yakuza members is just everyday Chicago street crime

[@PseudoCompetent]

"I made a list of things that don't make sense in Avengers: Endgame." "How many on the list?" "14,000,605." "How many did you get right?" "One."

[@3Rayfire]

Underrated Comment here.

[@randomt800kiddo2]

None.*

[@richardstierwalt2874]

It's a list of 22, actually.

[@richardstierwalt2874]

Replying to myself before someone says YOU DIDN'T GET THE JOKE YOU DUMBASDDSSSASSSS I'm just being a smart ass, shut up.

[@johnnymullen5884]

Richard Stierwalt you didn’t get the joke smartass

[@calebhawk6868]

Half of these feel like they were written by 14 year old Tumblr users. "I built up this entire fake canon in my head, and I'm upset that this character doesn't exactly live up to my fake headcanon. If my favorite character has any faults, trauma, or any problematic behavior, it must be a plothole because "random character" would never do that!"

[@darthrevan5976]

I'm a 14 year old and I can confirm the level of brain cells used in the screen rant review were more like that of a toddler's

[@deepaparakkal4241]

Now stop insulting 14 year olds

[@joeyjerry1586]

@@the_egg_, I don’t see that as a bad thing

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

You do realize you've summed up EFAP -which Jay appears on as a guest quite a lot lolol

[@SelfProclaimedGorl]

That’s how people reacted to Jax in episode two of the amazing digital circus

[@BlackStudies]

Thanos also seems to be the type of character who is fine with telling people his plans because he's confident that he can't be stopped. It's his destiny. He's inevitable. Even if he thought of Nebula as a pawn, why wouldn't he tell her his plan? She's no threat as far as he's concerned.

[@thanos4959]

Darius Spearman yeah why didn’t he Wait

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

Plus, in Infinity War, Thanos was so confident he was going to win, he shed his armor as soon as he got the Space Gem. It's like he believed that having just 2/6 of the Infinity Gems meant that he was essentially invincible. Besides, what difference does it make if Nebula knows where he's going to retire after his victory? Until he destroys the Gauntlet, he'd be too powerful to stop anyway.

[@lacari0805]

Mega Man X Powered Up Because with only two stones he was already the most powerful being in the universe they literally say that in IW

[@alexbrabo4471]

Let's not forget the time Screen Rant tried to make the case that Superman was going appear in future Venom sequels because they used the term kryptonite, a very popular term for weakness. I guess making good anything is just their kryptonite.

[@annie_b0dy]

AdamVlogs 55555 wow do you know Superman?

[@raindownchoas]

Not true, not true, Ryan George is a treasure. Besides that, yeah it sucks.

[@ohboy1113]

I was really hoping to see a reply from Superman.

[@ukewbing]

AdamVlogs 55555 is confirmed to appear in the next Superman movie because he knows what kryptonite is.

[@arkane1732]

Spelling must be yours

[@Hieballa]

Q: "why did Thanos snap?" A: because Thanos snapped to signify how effortless it was in the source material, and the snap became an iconic moment in marvel lore to the point where it would be somewhat insulting not to include it. Basically, fan service to those who were looking forward to a spiritual successor to one of Marvel's most iconic storylines. Q: "why did the others snap?" A: Thanos had a much greater understanding of the stones than anyone on the side of the avengers. The extreme toll the infinity stones take on the user's body (in this version) take experimentation completely off the table. They know from experience that a snap definitely works. Basically, they did it because it was the only method they could be sure would work

[@travisbaley7337]

Also, since they want to talk about symbolism, he had the power to literally wipe out half the universe with just a snap of his fingers, which he did. I feel like he even said something about that in a previous movie, but that could be a false memory

[@securitysnail5996]

But to be fair on Question 2 they do have something called the Mind Stone on them

[@Hieballa]

@@securitysnail5996 you would think that would give them knowledge, but no. All the mind stone is give you control of and the ability to read anyone/everyone's mind. There actually isn't an infinity stone that automatically grants knowledge. The closest is the time stone, which grants you immortality and the ability to control time

[@securitysnail5996]

Then Screenrant is just dumb (but we already knew that)

[@Hieballa]

@@securitysnail5996 true dat

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

I can argue against Clint Barton having an orange couch and I will. His house and it’s decor is predominantly made up of natural colours, as well his outfits both civilian and work gear is most comprised of darker tones. Thus, inferring his probable personal tastes, I believe that it would be unlikely that Hawkeye would have an orange couch instead of a black couch.

[@extralongbaguette8880]

I believe that his wife would pick the couch, since she seems to be home far more often

[@ferretappreciator]

@@extralongbaguette8880 interesting theory. However, it then begs the question why did the wife choose the couch? MCU theory Hawkeye has a super power and it's giving his wife colorblindness (or bad taste)

[@captain_malaria]

Release the black-couch-cut!

[@tesnacloud]

I theorize it was a gift from a mate who didn't need it anymore, and Hawkeye never got around to replacing it.

[@farkasmactavish]

I agree that he'd have a black couch, but not for that reason.

[@HeroRaze]

As far as the "nobody's attacked earth" thing, wouldn't (approximately) half of all potential earth-attackers have also been dusted for that time span?

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

I mean, up until that point in the MCU, only Asgardians, Kree, Skrulls, and Thanos' forces had been to Earth. Asgardians had forged friendly relations with Earth and were effectively homeless. The Kree backed down since the 90s and they never had much interest in Earth anyway (unless we count AoS and even then its a fringe group of Kree). Skrulls came to Earth following Carol and they have since formed a friendly relationship with both her and Nick Fury. Thanos had already done the deed, and the only reason he went after Earth was because it had Infinity Stones. The only outside threats left come from the mystical side, so we only have to assume that Wong and co. held down the Sanctums in the absence of a Sorcerer Supreme.

[@Sada-eb1zp]

Half of the population of the universe being gone is actually a reason for Galactus *not* to attack them. He waits for the worlds to have lots of population because he feasts of life energy. There's even a theory online that Thanos did all this to save everyone from Galactus.

[@Enray11]

Also if any other groups or beings were going to cause trouble during the aftermath of Thanos, you would think they would avoid the planet that came closer to stopping him than anyone else (even defeated his first invasion in Avengers 1), and then tracked Thanos down and killed him.

[@excelsiorcameo5295]

The only counter to this I can think of is Dormammu, and I don't think he could have been dusted as he exists in another dimension. Without the Sorcerer Supreme guarding an earth with half the population, Dormammu should have easily taken over.

[@mysterium368]

@@excelsiorcameo5295 But Doctor Strange showed that Dormammu by itself hasn't much interest for invading earth, it only was "activated" by Kaecilius and his guys.

[@desmondben8576]

“I like movie nitpicks when they’re done well” Cinemasins has left the chat.

[@maxpayne2550]

Damn straight that's y i watch the bi3dman debunk their vids

[@jayyadav1610]

Endgame has too many flaws you don't even need to nitpick

[@Spartan11117777]

Yeah they conveniently make their videos filled with useless sins to extend the time of the video to beyond 10 mins haha

[@kimberleybrowne8929]

@@Spartan11117777 you aren't supposed to take any of their videos seriously. They even made a video sining themselves

[@Spartan11117777]

Kimberley Browne It’s alright, I stopped watching their vids a few years ago.

[@IrrelevantPuma]

I think screenrants was right. Tony should of dabbed half the universe back in existence instead of snapping his finger.

[@uncomfortablyclose8481]

Should’ve T-posed to assert his dominance.

[@derpi94]

he should have fortnite danced

[@uncomfortablyclose8481]

DerpiFoxGaming which one?

[@derpi94]

@@uncomfortablyclose8481 Don't play Fortnite, but probably the floss dance, if that's in there.

[@uncomfortablyclose8481]

Ohno

[@taekookie1976]

the reason why captain marvel had little screen time in the movie was basically because they didn't want one new character to swoop in and take all the credit for defeating thanos. Instead, they let the actual bigger characters do most of the work.

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

Except that is exactly what happened. She came in at the last minute and saved everyone.

[@shianeruu4359]

@@SageOfLimitlessHands Saved everyone? She was outsmarted by Thanos and got beaten. Almost everyone never completely won against Thanos in a 1v1 fight, they only allowed Thanos to be distracted for a short while

[@taekookie1976]

@@SageOfLimitlessHands that's not true, she was only able to distract him for a while

[@taekookie1976]

@@shianeruu4359 yup

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

@@taekookie1976 So we are gonna pretend she didnt one shot his dreadnought? We are gonna pretend like she didnt beat on him with s gauntlet on? Ok then.lmao

[@codenate02]

"This Thanos didn't snap!" A. he did. Right before Tony did. The "I am inevitable" clanky no stones snap, remember? B, Even if he didn't NEED to snap, based on both Gamora (who knows his plans) saying he would snap to kill half the universe, and Thanos himself always snapping to use the gauntlet on a mass scale, Thanos sure was planning on snapping.

[@legoworld246]

Let's also not forget SR mentioned it themselves that Thanos had planned to snap for years. And even then, Thanos already knew that in that future, he DID snap and kill half of all life. That's why he went to the future. To stop the Avengers from undoing what he did. So he knows he snapped already, he had planned to snap all along, and HE DID SNAP IN FRONT OF TONY. Screen Rant, ladies and gentlemen.

[@EternalDolphin-wo7oy]

You know for just a random KZbinr you are actually smarter then a very popular KZbin channel with millions of likes (sorry if I botched those numbers of likes) So, good job!😁(Wait🤔that means ah forget it.)

[@lmanproductions8680]

n8opot8oW Also his whole plan where he declared that he would kill 100% of people instead of 50%

[@KadenMacKay]

Screen Rant on Doctor Who: “one of the key rules...is that past selves should not interact with current ones.” So...have they never watched Doctor Who either???

[@corndogink2424]

That's someone who barely read a wiki. They clearly establish the rules and the exceptions. And most of the time, The Doctor is the exception to every time travel rule.

[@conradlorgar5508]

I mean that's kinda true in dr who too

[@firebirdlego855]

day of the FUCKING DOCTOR SCREEN RANT!

[@firebirdlego855]

@@conradlorgar5508 no it isnt

[@conradlorgar5508]

@@firebirdlego855 remember when Amy and old Amy tried to both get in the tardis and thats would screw up reality or how two Rose's (baby and adult) touched and it broke reality even further It's kinda one rule for time lords and another for none time beings

[@DoraTheMFDestroya]

There totally wasn't a scene where it is shown that this is the ONLY version of time where they win. Meaning everything in this version happened to allow them to win. INCLUDING THE RAT.

[@mercydonato7545]

Maybe, but strange told them its one and the other ones as alternative plans And theres a scene strange told it in infinity war

[@jackal_9791]

Maybe Strange saying there were 14,000,605 futures but they only win one is because the chances of the rat releasing Ant-Man from the Quantum Realm was 1 in 14,000,605.

[@t-posingbobafett6017]

@@jackal_9791 I think it was where thor kills thanos in infinity war

[@endless_del]

i have a theory about this. in doctor strange, the ancient one says that when she looks into her future with the time stone, she can never see past her own death. we can assume that these same rules apply to strange. so when strange uses the time stone to see into the future to figure out if they beat thanos, he wouldn't be able to definitively answer whether or not a scenario in which he dies would result in victory. meaning there could be 14 million other scenarios in which strange dies in the final battle or survives the snap and dies in some other way, but they still defeat thanos. another theory i have is that what strange was actually referring to when he said there was just 1 is tony's sacrifice. in every scenario in which they win, tony snaps. this is supported by him saying "if i tell you what's going to happen, it won't happen" which is a somewhat niche line often used in stories with time travel or psychics/premonitions that is to foreshadow that character's death. i think tony was smart enough to infer what that line meant, which is why he knows exactly what he needs to do when strange signals him with a single finger up.

[@masterplinter5407]

@@endless_del that actually makes a lot of sense

[@ahard-daysnight6659]

“Captain Marvel left us underwhelmed, she only exists as backup” Captain Marvel: *destroys an entire spaceship single handedly*

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Not just A spaceship, THE spaceship She takes out Thanos's flag ship

[@MarioRossiAncora]

I love it because the script makes it a point of presenting the ship as a major and tangible problem. It solves a lot for Thanso when he's being overtaken. Crazy..ml.

[@vamp_bat_chomp]

Yeah she doesn't get much screen time cause they're focusing more on the characters that are having their finale, and she'll have more showings later on. But in the time she did have, they sold her as powerful and significant in universe.

[@pufferfancyfish]

I like to imagine a universe where nick fury dramatically sends out that pager only for it to be revealed she also got dusted making it pointless like how did he know she wasn’t effected

[@exren9830]

There’s more logic flaws in the article than in the movie

[@ordeaux26]

is that suppose to be a jab at screen rant or endgame because I can't tell, of if your saying endgame is good or bad.

[@joshuam7749]

@@ordeaux26 I think he's just saying endgame has flaws, but it is nowhere near as bad as the article.

[@sophiisherman7463]

Exren and that’s saying something

[@oddlyblue6882]

I think Bucky definitely knew Cap wasn't coming back, I mean Bucky literally says "I'm gonna miss you" where as if he didn't know, that wouldn't really make much sense seeing as if he were returning, he'd be back in about 5 seconds, so, not much time to be missed.

[@lacari0805]

I’m guessing Bucky either expected him to come back in the same spot old or not at all

[@ezrahalstead4397]

Is it really that far fetched that a father would tell his daughter his retirement plans? I mean sure he loves Nebula less but that doesn't mean he doesn't love her at all.

[@acidpain6059]

Right like if he didn’t care at all why would he call her his daughter, he’d have just called her a lackey or minion

[@thatoneguy7024]

Thanos deserves Fictional Single Father of The Year Award

[@ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108]

@@thatoneguy7024 And, when he promises Dr Strange that he will spare Tony from the Snap, he implies he has some control over who gets dusted. Maybe he spared Nebula on purpose, or at least because he knew Gamora cared about her? Still not sure it excuses the 20 years of constant physical and emotional abuse which gives her permanent excruciating pain though...

[@thatoneguy7024]

Alice Anderson , it’s better than killing them over billions of years like Ego

[@ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108]

@@thatoneguy7024 True 🤷‍♀️

[@coldmonalisa7793]

Avengers (first movie) with Clint: Win Avengers in age of Ultron with Clint: Win Avengers in Infinity War without Clint: Lose Avengers in Endgame with Clint: Win I mean, he must be really important, right?

[@Adam_S51]

I mean you're not wrong

[@newtsalamander8759]

@@Adam_S51 actually he is he forgot civil war which he was in and lost

[@baronrob20]

@@newtsalamander8759 He was on the Captain America team, who were indeed the winners

[@newtsalamander8759]

@@baronrob20 my definition of a winner isn't being forced to live in hiding or go on home arrest for five years. They may have won the battle but lost in the long run

[@baronrob20]

@@newtsalamander8759 He took one for the team, allowing Steve and Bucky to escape and uncover the truth. Then he gets to spend time with his family.

[@lovepirate14]

For the “why Cap didn’t tell people he was leaving” point, what if he didn’t decide he was staying in the past until he got to the past?

[@trevorphilips9065]

No he planned it

[@exononymous9842]

Bucky seemed to know something was going to happen. maybe not exactly what it was but he told steve “...you’re taking all the stupid with you” which i know was a reference to the first avenger but it also implies he knew cap was going to do something.

[@lacari0805]

Also that would just give his friends a chance to talk him out of it or go instead of him

[@raspberryjam3724]

Old Cap explicitly says to Falcon " *After* I put the stones back, I thought maybe I'd try that life Tony was always urging me to get."

[@nightstar6179]

Wait a second wouldn't him staying in the past make a new timeline. If he is in a new timeline how did he show up old at the end

[@nix6940]

I think we'd remember the movie differently if it ended with "The Wankening"

[@gingermlg]

How did you not make a "Fappening" joke?

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Efappening

[@jedolson8667]

what a beautiful duwang

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

@@jedolson8667 today looks like a picnic

[@brycetorres5011]

For 16: They literally say "he joined shield to protect his FAMILY" well his family died so not much more motivation

[@turtleanton6539]

😂😂😂

[@mujiescomedy279]

RoyalFlashCraft I don’t think they were right about that, but their own logic contradicted their nitpick

[@Beastinvader]

Where did they say that? I believe you, but I can't remember it

[@mujiescomedy279]

Beastinvader at the beginning of the point

[@zingzaber6989]

@@mujiescomedy279 Yea, its the classic ScreenRant "random assumption to strengthen a poor argument" trick.

[@digitalutopia1]

It's pretty obvious that ScreenRant handed this poor writer an assignment to come up with 25 things that didn't make sense, because they knew it would get clicks/interactions. So the writer pulled 25 reasons out of their ass.

[@codycole2684]

Biggest mistake was Cap not turning out to be all the Stan Lee in all his cameos, watching over all his friends

[@gvideoproductions4874]

Cody Cole that would have actually been amazing

[@gvideoproductions4874]

But then it wouldn’t have made sense that he was there in the first avenger

[@andymontanez56]

How would he be in space in with the watchers then

[@SpecialistFeature]

If some of the films’ writing had been changed and some of the cameos, that would be great.

[@Whovian103]

There is a theory that he turned into Mr. Rogers, and it does add up until you get to Mr. Rogers' day of death

[@bane3347]

I am genuinely debating if the person who wrote this article didn't even watch Endgame; they just had the plot vaguely described to them by other people.

[@CaffeineDeprivation]

They skimmed through the Wikipedia article while on a coffee break

[@takeyourjoy8376]

They watched those “Endgame spoilers without context” videos

[@harissabotic5714]

Steve Jobs described it to them, my dad told me.

[@fernfern0]

The person who wrote the article probably based it on the endgame movie pitch video.

[@nexus6100]

Bucky totally knew about Cap staying in the past. He said goodbye to Cap instead of something like see you when you get back, he hugged Cap (can't remember if anyone else did this but I don't remember anyone else embracing Cap). Then he sent Sam over to talk to Cap alone rather than going with him, as though he knew this was a conversation for just the two of them.

[@gracekim1998]

PSWii60 yeah when I watched the movie the second time I realised he definitely knew as well

[@Godzilla2004.]

When cap was old he said he put the stones back then decided to stay "well after I put the stones back I decided to get some of that life tony was telling me to get"

[@tacobowler]

Which makes sense. Bucky is the only other character taken out of time for 70 years. He knew what he would do if he was given an opportunity to get a redo for that time, and assumed Cap would do the same thing.

[@Adam-ni6ne]

Bucky also said "I'm going to miss you" before Cap left. You don't say that to someone who you know is going to come back in five seconds anyway.

[@motionofthepotion6029]

Avengers Endgame was one of the most beautiful movies ever made. When Shrek sacrificed himself to save everybody and Oggway sacrificing himself to save black widow and Hawkeye it was heartbreaking.

[@xero4479]

Why did you give me a spoiler to Teenage Mutant Shrek Ogre: Endgame

[@lyly_lei_lei]

It was so sad when Aquaman Drowned…

[@yousufrazwan9583]

@@lyly_lei_lei exactly, just like when thor died to electrocution...

[@lyly_lei_lei]

@@yousufrazwan9583 No, that was _Thor: Ragnorok._

[@astrotrain6037]

@@yousufrazwan9583 or when Natasha was bitten by a Black Widow spider and freakin died

[@erikm8373]

Playing footage of people getting dusted in reverse to stand in for footage of them coming back to life? That's pretty clever

[@WeekendWarrior1]

WOW JAY ITS ALMOST LIKE THEY DIDN'T WATCH THE MOVIE

[@thestrangegod3173]

I read this in your voice lol

[@turtleanton6539]

They did not

[@louminouz]

Weekend Warrior oh hey man what you doing here

[@Mr69hammertime]

Heeyyy meng

[@Ok-eg8dg]

@@turtleanton6539 what about the several plot holes? I disliked this film, out of the 22 MCU films, theres only 4 I dislike . So biasness isnt some reason to dislike endgame when I wanted it to be better than the dark knight

[@jonasdiaz8615]

In a Thanos farmer template: "It ain't much, but it's honest work."

[@deletedaccount3047]

It’s on the tip of my tongue but what’s that a reference to? Skyrim?

[@rhemophi]

@AnonymousTheorist 666 it’s just a meme with a farmer from a documentary.

[@AtomicOwl]

@@rhemophi but it also a skyrim meme

[@TimelostInTheSauce]

@@AtomicOwl not really

[@Dawnmon]

Honest pay for honest work

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

Finally acting selfishly *is* the culmination of Steve's arc. He had to learn from Tony that it's okay to have a life...

[@funnyvideoguy3216]

Yeah, imagine not going back and doing the things you’ve always wanted to do after finally finding an opportunity to do so

[@Alec.V.]

Jay without glasses?!?!? HERESY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER

[@jong208]

BURN IT WITH FIRE

[@WyattoonsComics]

He got contacts during the blip. They’re his blip contacts.

[@space_fox12]

WHAT HERESY IS THIS BROTHER?

[@clone10123]

They look wrong.

[@clone10123]

I think its the ear to eye ratio

[@PokeJoshNY]

In the time travel one, their premise isn't even correct. They use Doctor Who as an example, but there are tons of examples of characters meeting their past selves in Doctor Who.

[@toxicmute6379]

Isn't there an entire thing based around all of the doctors doing calculations to save their home planets or something(Not really a DW watcher so I don't know the most about the show but i know some basics)

[@PokeJoshNY]

I mean there are multiple specials where different Doctors team up

[@Hoganply]

Dr Who is internally inconsistent. In a throw away line in Time Crash meant to be humorous he states that the paradox could rip the entire universe apart.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Characters also meet their past selves in Star Trek. Old Spock meets with young Spock in the Trek reboot. The series finale of Voyager is about old Janeway going back in time to change the past so Voyager gets home early.

[@DavidTSmith-jn5bs]

The Second and Third Doctor shook hands near the end of "The Five Doctors" and Young Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart touched Older Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart in "Maudryn Undead" and caused "The Blinovitch Effect" and prevented The Fifth Doctor from giving up his "remaining selves." Screen Rant SHOULD do their homework before they criticize a film OR use a TV series about time travel as evidence of "sloppy writing."

[@jeffdredd1172]

The storytelling about Thor actually gave me a little chill. Bravo.👏

[@nslater1388]

As someone who has gotten depressed and let themselves go physically, it was a riot for me to see how they handled Thor and made it funny with an undercurrent of sadness. I related to it more than I ever have any other character in film before.

[@theexchipmunk]

Yep, and I actually tend to get any at people propagating that stupid "depression is always sad" myth. Its not. Many people with depression use humour to cope. And many of those also like to make people happy and laugh because they know how it is to bee so deeply depressed.

[@mikearchibald744]

Thor definitely had the best character in those movies, he couldn't but help to. Letting himself go is one thing but the fat jokes at his expense is what seemed in bad taste. Using humour is one thing, insulting people is another. If I knew somebody who had depression, I would certainly accept whatever they were doing to cope (within reason). However, I wouldn't be making jokes about them.

[@matthewparker9276]

@@mikearchibald744 not everyone would though. The film shows (very clearly, I thought) that the other characters were uncomfortable with how thor was acting, and didn't know how to treat him. Most of the quips at his expense were followed by a long silence, and were delivered with muted emotion, not the jovial attitude with which they normally quip, with the exception of thor himself, who is sayingbthat jovial attitude to fit in better with the team dynamic of the past.

[@mikearchibald744]

@@matthewparker9276 I think thats WHY people make jokes at peoples expense-they are uncomfortable around them. Thats likely also why they may say racist and inappropriate things. I can't say more because I really don't remember the movie very well and didn't like it enough to watch it any more. I think it was the raccoon that they got to do most of the joking, making one character 'the inappropriate one' is a time worn tactic in films.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@theexchipmunk the problem is the writers/directors intended for it to come off as sad and tragic. You weren't supposed to be laughing, but at the same time they made jokes at his expense. When he started crying in front of the Avengers, they just kind of put him off to the side.

[@Daniel-zg5mb]

The 'R' at the end of Heimdallr is actually the more accurate, or at least older, spelling of the Norse God's name. Marvel uses the anglicized version of the name, so Screen Rant is wrong to add the r when referencing the Marvel character, who to be fair has next to nothing to do with his namesake, but not wrong to use that spelling in general.

[@PlotlinePlus]

Imagine, instead of being called "the snap" it could have been called "the fisting".

[@robbiejelsomeno5679]

The Blip*

[@PlotlinePlus]

@@robbiejelsomeno5679 T'was a joke, my friend.

[@TheTwostepMan]

@@PlotlinePlus oh my

[@TheTwostepMan]

@@PlotlinePlus oh my

[@Mothlord03]

@@robbiejelsomeno5679 is that one of the names?

[@SpinningTurtle66]

It was a smart move to make Strange use the ‘one future where we win’ line, as it pretty much negates any contrivance complaints, therefore making ScreenRant seem even more idiotic.

[@amipadme3985]

Seriously, it’s obviously a convenience, but a pretty clever one for what they knew they had to accomplish for Endgame.

[@donniepatt9514]

@@amipadme3985 its called the "shut the hell up the everybody" line

[@nerdthatcantfit1079]

That’s the thing that’s amazing about that line. There is one scenerio where they win and not only does strange manipulate that to make it happen but also. That is the story we are following. We could be following the story of ones that lose but that doesn’t make for a good movie. That line basically tells us that there is bound to be a time when thanos loses, and we are watching f that one time. It’s clever

[@jamesduffy7549]

I don't like screenrant but I fucking despise the MCU So actually screenrant are right

[@MorganEdgy]

@@jamesduffy7549 how does that make you feel?

[@TheNoonish]

I'm still salty that you gave Screenrant a point for the original Avengers being left alive when that's wrong, since it happened in Infinity War and not Endgame. Things that don't make sense about the movie should be focused on things happening in the movie.

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

IG and EG come from the same script you idiot they cut into two films for money they are not "two" films to begin you f'nin moron

[@dhararry7929]

It okay, they still got an F-- on the exam.

[@bigbrain1415]

Cap told falcon at the end of endgame that when he was returning the stones, he wanted to have some of that life Tony told him to get.

[@ReturnToSenderz]

Xcalibur Untold Cap taking advice from someone he (usually) likes and respects? PLOT HOLE.

[@Cnut_the_grape]

Didn't Nat say that?

[@iTzKneecap]

@@Cnut_the_grape Nat said something similar to that when she was eating a peanutbutter sandwich with Cap, Cap made a callback to that scene at the end of the movie.

[@iTzKneecap]

That was after he already left and aged. That's not the point being made.

[@joshkaid]

Clint wears all black. All the time. There for, most of what he owns would likely be black as well. There for, his couch should be black.

[@tiawilliams5690]

Right. Because Clint's wife sat back and let him handle all the interior design.

[@xplosives1752]

Josh Kaid I was gonna comment that, I saw his point as a challenge and was gonna do it but I’m happy to see I don’t even need to cause other intellectuals exist

[@Rognik]

Because he wears all black, he can't be a loving family man. Good father's wear colours.

[@ReturnToSenderz]

But he has a teenage daughter, so it will be black with hot pink edging.

[@reeanne8701]

@@ReturnToSenderz [cinemasins voicee] Stereotyping *ding *

[@TheChurchofJim]

I wish ryan george could put pitch meetings on his own channel, so then i wouldnt have to watch any of screen rants videos

[@randomuser6907]

He's the only good thing about the channel

[@Zechariah_Mathieson1871]

He was a playlist of all the Pitch Meetings that updates when he makes another one

[@BananaWasTaken]

@@Zechariah_Mathieson1871 but you’re still giving screen rant watch time, (and subscribers if you want to be notified when a new pitch meeting comes out)

[@tantris2876]

Yeah, pitch meetings are the only good thing about Screen Rant.

[@reese_enee]

Love your icon

[@hoangminhle1964]

"Dr Who dont let people interact with their past self" Ah yes, that explains it. Screen Rant dont want Dr Who either

[@Magimasterkarp]

They have probably seen that one "Fathers Day" episode where Rose touches baby Rose and suddenly paradox eating reapers appear. I see that episode metioned so often in discussions about Doctor who, especially when two doctors meet. I can totally see screenrant do an article about what doesnt make sense in Doctor who, and half of the entries being "Why didn´t the paradox reapers appear when..." Warning, rant mode has activated. They then question why there are no reapers when two Doctors touch each other. Then they cite the grandfather paradox for the original appearance of the reapers. Rose stops her father from being killed, which stops her from going to the day of his death, etc. What they fail to see is that the way worse paradox is that she saves her father after she just saw him die alone in front of her FUCKING TWO MINUTES AGO! Rose intruded on her own timeline of two minutes ago. Her later touching baby rose is a very tiny paradox that only strengthens the reapers enough that they can make it into the church they were hiding in. We have seen that it is possible to change the past of someone. At the end of the episode, Roses memories literally change (which would mean she wouldnt have a reason to go back and be at her fathers side while he died alone), and in a christmas special, the eleventh Doctor literally invades someones past to change their memories and make them a better person. He even brings a child version of them to meet their current self. No reapers, no time complications, nothing. The guy eleven is trying to change is like 90, so the universe has plenty of time to sort itself out between young adult guy and grumpy old guy. The same happens with rose. Between baby rose and her mother witnessing the event, and adult rose, the universe only has to change a few tiny bits. Her father has to die again, which is easy, as he is a squishy human, and roses mother has to tell child rose a slightly different story about her fathers death. The big paradox for the episode was the two different versions of the same event happening simultaneously only two minutes apart on their personal timelines. During his Timelord Victorious episode, Ten changes an important event, a fix point in human history, and it changes his memories of what he read on Timelord Wikipedia about the event. Him specifically knowing what will happen is why he couldnt interfere without breaking the rules. In the "Fathers Day" episode, they not only remember the alternate event, it was still in their short term memory. This is a disruption of their personal timelines first and foremost, with the "dont touch baby rose"-bit just as little extra, but many people still cant stop thinking you cant touch your previous selves. And Screenrant are just the kind of stupid people who might think that way.

[@RiverRoestdeKunstenaar]

@@Magimasterkarp The more realistic answer is probably that they wrote an episode early on that would be pretty limiting for episode ideas in the future so they just kinda forgot about it.

[@zemoxian]

I think it’s clear that either Cap told Bucky his plans or it was so blindingly obvious he didn’t have to. They say he’ll be back in seconds. Everyone is expecting him to be back in seconds. What does Bucky say? I’ll miss you buddy then repeat their conversation when he was leaving to go to war? Either he was expecting him to be unsuccessful or he was expecting him to be gone a long time. His demeanor suggested to me he was happy for him. I’m pretty comfortable that all Steve had to say was “Peggy was right in the next room.” And Bucky would be like “Say no more!” Hell, at that point he might have talked Steve into it.

[@zemoxian]

Two timelines I’d like to see are the Thanos-lite timeline where he disappeared in 2014. And the Cap returns timeline where he exposed Hydra in SHIELD as he helps Peggy Carter assemble it. I’m also hoping they explain the glaring inconsistency between the TV and movies after Infinity War. I’ll have to rewatch the end of last season but the big bad was preparing to fight Thanos and I think the New York battle was mentioned. Perhaps the New York thing could be retconned as the Defenders blowing up a skyscraper. I don’t know. If so, then this season would make sense in that context. The alternative would be that this season of SHIELD takes place in the Thanos-lite timeline. That way the New York attack never happened and the show can follow it’s own course. Runaways and Cloak & Dagger could go that way too. I hope not but given that both shows are about teens, having half the teenage cast age 5 years would probably be troublesome for the shows and people have enough difficulty handling all six original Avengers surviving the snap. I haven’t seen Far From Home yet so I’ll be interested in how they handled it there. Much of Peter’s close cohort seems to have been spared according to the trailers.

[@redholm]

Yea. Watching a movie where first Cap goes and deliver the stones back then return to Peggy to live out their lives with Shield. Like co running a Hydra less Shield could be cool. Or how Endgame basically saves 2 universes by having Thanos die in our universe.

[@zingzaber6989]

@@zemoxian Why would Agents of SHIELD need to be in a new timeline based on the events of season 5? It ends before the snap even happens. Season 6 I could see an argument for but season 5 is fine.

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

Yeah, I took the "I'll miss you" and such as confirmation that Bucky knew. He's Cap's oldest friend, Steve probably told him or he figured it out.

[@hulkinglasses7174]

I assumed Bucky said "I'll miss you" because he didn't know how long it would take. Falcon even asked how long it would be for them. So the "I miss you" was targeted for Cap since for Cap it could've been 70 years for all Bucky would know before Cap sees him again. That or Bucky knows Cap well enough to know that Cap would decide to stay behind in the past at the last minute.

[@brycetorres5011]

For 11: They couldn't destroy the stones anyway, they had to return them to the past.

[@kitchensinkchronicles3272]

RoyalFlashCraft that’s a really good point

[@lyndiss.2017]

That's the explanation on top of my head too

[@thai2595]

Exactly

[@phunder3027]

I think what they were trying to say is: Why didn‘t the gauntlet, that is made out of Iron Man tech, turn into a ball so that Thanos can‘t put it on?

[@damiansobio676]

@@phunder3027 he could rip the reality stone out and made it into one. Probably was one of the 14 million possibilities

[@Palmieres]

25:02 After Steve says "Don't do anything stupid until I get back" and Bucky replies "How can I? You're taking all the stupid with you", Bucky pauses and says *"I'm gonna miss you, buddy"* and Steve says "It's gonna be okay". Bucky KNOWS. You don't say "I'm gonna miss you" to someone who's supposed to be back in just 5 seconds (according to Banner, that's how much time will pass in the present until he brings Steve back). And this isn't out of character for Steve. He didn't leave the present without a Captain America, he passed on the shield to Sam, making sure someone was there to take his place. Steve is a man out of his time, he wasn't supposed to be in the now. He never belonged in the now. His return to his own time was the most logical thing that could happen to a character who had come to the present when Thanos' actions regarding the Earth's part in his plan were set in place, and left when he helped thwart that plan. Steve joined the army to fight in WW2, to fight his world's enemies, not our world's enemies. He did more than he was supposed to and has no reason not to go home.

[@rachelmoses3059]

He belongs in the future. That's the entire point of him. If he was always mean to go the past why introduce Sharon?

[@horseoperamarker]

exactly

[@horseoperamarker]

@@rachelmoses3059 belonging to be in the future and being fated to be in the future is different

[@rachelmoses3059]

@@horseoperamarker How so? Do you know anything about the character of Steve Rogers? He was written to be ahead of his time and not wanting to be in the Jim crow era. I don't care about any ship. Steve Rogers belongs in the future and not in a time where he can't eat at the same diner as Sam ( his friend). He sure as hell doesn't belong in the past where Peggy Carter as Director of Shield hires Armin Zola. That's canon. And if ? Steve is man out of his his time what does that say about *Bucky* who is also a man out of time. Why can't he also go back? Maybe pick up a comic book before talking about shit about Marvel's most political character. Oh and the "man out of time" thing? It's supposed to mirror Jack Kirby's (the creator of Steve Rogers look it up) experiences *after* he came home from fighting in WWII. Jack Kirby couldn't get a time machine to go back before before he went to war. Why does Steve?

[@JHurricane]

@@rachelmoses3059 you realize that this Steve Rogers is different from the comics right?

[@BlackBlazeGaming]

I get tired of this common theme of people disliking that Thor's depression is "played for laughs" as if humor was never a coping strategy employed by people suffering from depression. I resonated with Thor a lot in Endgame and through the humor, whether his own or the movie poking fun at him, saw the pain he was experiencing. Could just be my own struggle with depression that made me see things that weren't there but I do recall the feelings quite vividly.

[@TheKat12364]

Yes. Humour is a cooping mechanism. I think it was just as much needed for the characters around Thor as it was for Thor. Its implied by their reactions to his weight gain that none of them had seen him in a ling time. They assumed he was running his village as a leader. I think they felt guilty for not being there and made jokes to lighten the mode.

[@lyly_lei_lei]

@@TheKat12364 “Humour is a cooping mechanism.” Yes, I too tell jokes to chickens to get then into their coop. JOKE!

[@AdventureHusky]

Yes, laughter is a coping mechanism, but the problem with Thor in particular is that most films in general depict men going through depressive states as jokes and easy to laugh at humor. That's why everybody is so mad about how it was portrayed. A lot of the time women get the emotional moments that make the audiences understand their pain while, in Thor's case, it was used as a punchline in multiple instances.

[@mophead_xu]

@@TheKat12364 yeah i used to kinda scrunch me nose at that as well, until i re-evaluate what i thought i knew about how people cope and how others around them react to their coping mechanism. i don't remember every character's reaction to thor sinking that low, but i remember rocket's, and thor's own reaction, and his mum. looking back, watching thor was painful in sympathetic way; i get what they were going for now. and if there's some audience that then treat him as laughing stock, too bad but that checks out-people _do_ in fact laugh at others, anw. it's more of a testament of those particular audience than the movie maker, imo.

[@mikearchibald744]

His depression wasn't played for laughs, the jokes in the movie were played for laughs. Fat jokes are still considered the only 'safe' jokes to make, but even that is starting to change. WE aren't depressed, so those jokes were made for US to laugh at HIS pain. Thats why people object. Thats because its a movie, not real life. For 'real' then pretty much all bets are off in how people react to half the world disappearing, and Thor, well, the guy has seen his planet destroyed and people devastated. For 'humour' they should have focused on the rock thing and bug. That wasnt' bad with the video games, but could have been better. Hell, some young asgaardians being shown and wishing for the days of Loki in charge would have been truthfully funny. Hell, if Odin could have stayed alive another half year they could have had some real help. But somebody's mother dies in a movie and making jokes about their appearance isn't playing for laughs, its just cruel. Of course sometimes people are cruel, but movies have their own rules to play by.

[@sirgaz8699]

"I do kind of agree going of sprees of killing is kind of an extream reaction to loosing your family and also half the world dying" I dunno, I've see a dude murder a lot of people over a dog . . . hell help Thanos if he snapped out his replacement dog.

[@batnerd5148]

It should be noted for clarity that “a lot of people” = about half the russian mob. It’s a relevant detail.

[@mariaer9692]

​@@batnerd5148 It's not like he wasn't a murderer before. He was an a military agent for S.H.I.E.L.D. I don't see why it's so weird that he goes on to do what he always did, just under his own jurisdiction.

[@Aplesedjr]

Maria ER the difference is that when he worked for shield he did what he did under orders to help as many people as possible. In endgame he’s really just killing because his family died. Sure he’s killing “bad” people, but murdering 100 mafia members is still murder.

[@mariaer9692]

@@Aplesedjr Well, I have a huge bias against any military organisations so I don't look any more kindly on murdering under order than murdering for vigilantism.

[@Aplesedjr]

Maria ER you don’t have to, but knowing that when he was simply killing just to kill people was very different from when he was being occasionally being ordered to kill in order to actively help people is important.

[@ysgramornorris2452]

Also, maybe "a soul for a soul" means that you have to lose _your own soul_ by watching someone you love die. "We lost friends, we lost family, we lost a part of ourselves." Maybe that line had more significance to the story of Endgame than we thought.

[@uncomfortablyclose8481]

I mean that’s the only real explanation because redheads don’t have souls.

[@guyfeeyeti375]

Ysgramornorris Wow. This is an amazing comment. I personally don’t think this is the case, but your analysis is excellent.

[@3Rayfire]

Doesn't seem to be the case, but a nice thought.

[@thorkarr3601]

Why would Cap tell people about his plan to stay with Peggy when he literally says to Sam "No, I don't think I will." He doesn't want anyone to know when he just wants to have that as his one true secret.

[@plasmacrane3308]

That monlogue about Thor killing Thanos was pretth deep bro... damn

[@epicremarc]

The dab sign could represent thanos yeeting half of the universe out of existence

[@stelmaria-mx]

Y E E T

[@NoahEB]

This bitch overpopulated... *_Y E E T_*

[@OBSDCC7]

All moments featuring Thanos and the Black Order in IW occur in: NYC, Germany, Wakanda and Titan... Ant Man and the Wasp takes place in San Francisco

[@tio5787]

Comedy Cove isn’t it Scotland? Not germany

[@joebrinecraftygamer3369]

Yeah

[@lacari0805]

*Scotland not Germany

[@Spartan11117777]

Antarctica haha

[@brandonm1708]

Yep, and they were there, what, like, 10-20 minutes each? Definitely enough time to hear about it on the news, decide that it’s important enough to go help out, fly there, and find the Avengers to help them. I can only see the person who wrote that thinking of putting that in because they saw a moment where there was an Avenger not helping other Avengers, and didn’t at all think of the logic behind why they may not have been there

[@antonydandrea]

Also at least 50% of ever potential big-bad would also have been wiped.

[@farquadstarsquad3820]

I love how they apply rules from other works of fiction to an unaffiliated movie

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

Yeah I mean like in the movie its not THEY refer to OTHER works of fiction either ... nope no reference to Back to the Future nope lmao

[@Data-Expungeded]

@@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 what the can you edit that comment I think I had a stroke

[@RantRadio]

That Antman getting out of the quantum realm was Actually 1 out of 14,000,605 when you peep it. Dr Strange had it all planned 😎

[@litten4112]

Actually no, they could have failed during time travelling, in the final battle etc. So its probably not just 1 out of 14.000.605 chance.

[@SC51793]

@@litten4112 I think he's saying because everything worked out the way it did made this the 1 out of the 14m that they actually won.

[@RantRadio]

@@SC51793 thank you!!.. Jeezus

[@RantRadio]

@@litten4112 well, yeah.. They did fail... 14,000,604 times 😒

[@jimmydcriket4086]

So that would mean that he got stuck in all 14.000.605 possibilities but maybe thanos snapped a little sooner or a little later so he wouldent be So its a probability inside a probability Probableception

[@MultiMal3]

I'm kinda impressed by how many of Screen Rant's points boil down to "we didn't actually watch the movie, but want you to think we are very clever."

[@williamtenney2432]

I died when he said he should do the wanker sign cause I imagined Thanos saying “you should have gone for the head” and then doing the wanker sign

[@Palliser99]

Thor is traumatised for a different reason ;)

[@m.mijsberg8663]

William Tenney what the f is the wanker sign?!

[@laurenceraran4027]

Coil your hands and shake em horizontally

[@hystericallover5989]

Racingcar 3 who’s gonna be the one to tell him?

[@powangel1418]

@@laurenceraran4027 I didn't know what it was but now I do 😫

[@limeylime8027]

12:22 I love how you mentioned galactus in your example of why no one would attack earth under the given circumstances. Galactus is actually the one being that would actually attack earth specifically in its weakened state, which we know because he attempted to do just that during the Last Days of Midgard before being stopped by old king Thor and his granddaughters. I just find it really funny because that actually supports screenrants case even though that story happens in an alternate timeline

[@dhararry7929]

Why did galactus target earth?

[@limeylime8027]

@@dhararry7929 well think about it like this. Galactus is this all powerful being who had been able to consume every planet he’s come across with few exceptions. However, earth has been such a massive thorn in his side that he has been consistently warded off by earth’s superheroes. To the point where an earthling was able to make him his own herald. Him targeting earth was done because earth hurt his pride. In other words, just apply what captain marvel said in avengers endgame: “not every planet has what earth has”

[@dhararry7929]

@@limeylime8027 well, what if he doesn't exist in the mcu?

[@darynvoss7883]

Why wouldn't folks remember Ant-man and the Wasp? It was nice.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Daryn Voss The only movies that were forgettable in my opinion were Thor the Dark World and Captain Marvel.

[@RoganClipVaultYT]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr well you can't really count captain marvel to forgettable, it's come out this year. But thor 1 is forgettable too, same with iron man 2, ant man and ant man and the wasp.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

ayayay oddly enough I have those movie plots memorized from beginning to end more than what was portrayed in Captain Marvel and Thor the Dark World.

[@zoroluffy4625]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr because despite the films being of smaller scale, the Ant-Man films are enjoyable

[@OliOAKASquekyboy]

its antman and the wasp....

[@christmasload1236]

Hawkeye used to like black widow and what does black widow wear black so to remember her he would have the couch black.

[@AJ69238]

Holy shit, you're right

[@joshuam7749]

You forgot: his wife's name is Laura. That name embodies victory and strength. Thor is strong and his lighting is blue, therefore Hawkeye should logically have a blue couch

[@withthesehands5799]

Your theory would be correct except the scene were the couch is orange is before black widows death so orange would be fitting as orange represents sun light, sun light representing joy. Only after black widows death would the couch be changed to a black one as all sun light and joy had been removed from his life! ;)

[@renskedunnewold1995]

Well actually he should have a purple couch. We all know Hawkeyes color scheme in the comics (and kind of in the movies too) is mostly purple, so to show that this is indeed HIS house, his couch and all other furniture really should be purple.

[@emilykilpatrick9989]

But actually his couch should be green because he and Tony had a bad relationship and Tony's armor is red. Green is opposite red on the color wheel, symbolising how he wants to be a different person than Tony. Only after the events of end game would the couch be changed to orange, because orange is closer to red than green, but still shows that Clint is his own person.

[@LeaXoftheUnderworld2]

Love how Marceline and Bubblegum are just chilling in the background watching Jay tear apart a terrible Screen Rant article

[@VirtueCry]

Clint lost his family AFTER giving up the fight because of the accords. So he probably blames himself for everything because he didn't go with Cap into hiding.

[@xavieryounger1631]

If you really think I’m going to spend over 37 minutes of my life watching Jay Exci talk about Avengers: Endgame you’re absolutely right.

[@noot6230]

Actually I think the way they handled Thor was fine, yes it was played for laughs but it was meant to make you uncomfortable. Cuz Thor himself was using the humor to try and act like he’s okay but in reality he just kept bringing himself down. I think they meant him to be constantly shitting on himself. Like when Tony says he’s in no condition to use the new gauntlet, I don’t think he means his weight I think he means his mental state. At least that’s how I’ve always seen it. Like his whole point is that he wants to know he’s still worthy and that he can do something properly. Also the biggest problem with their “why wasn’t ant-man helping people” the man lives in SAN FRANCISCO and the original attacks were in New York on the other side of the country. By the time he got to New York the ship would’ve been gone. Plus my man’s was on HOUSE ARREST

[@maxpayne2550]

Dick long

[@genericpeach4601]

18:27 Not to mention that Ant-Man lives in San Francisco.

[@JoshuaWillis89]

I would assume that part of the reason you have to snap to engage all six stones is to avoid accidentally doing so when you don’t intend to. Snapping isn’t exactly something you do accidentally.

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

you people are just bonkers stupid

[@benbirkman288]

"you should have gone for the head" *Wank*

[@jackysbin3860]

Fuck you you made me laugh while eating you bastard

[@minato_arisato3751]

@@jackysbin3860 you good?

[@luftwaffle4993]

@@minato_arisato3751 i dont Think so... he didnt reply...GET AN AMBULANCE!

[@drjwww]

You need to dock another half-point at least. The half-point you gave them re all of the OG Avengers not getting dusted isn't a valid criticism of ENDGAME; it's, at a huge stretch, a "valid" criticism of INFINITY WAR, not ENDGAME.

[@redholm]

I would agree if it was only the OG avengers that survived the Snap. but seeing as other than Thor and Iron man the others where just luck. I don't see it as a big critisism. We are talking about like. I think it ends up being a 1/16 chance. Much lower than the Ant-man odds. Although ant-man litteraly had the thing to bring him back right there. Although the Rat thing would be a good point against that.

[@bel3338]

Agreed that the half point was very generous; I'd argue that it isn't really a contrivance. Looking at it mathematically, having the 'original' Avengers survive and the newer ones vanish is no different than any other combination of survivors and dusted, the same way that 1 2 3 4 5 6 has exactly the same probability of winning the lottery as every other number combination. The only difference is that we put meaning to one set and not the other, but that human element of importance makes no difference in a random selection. My dictionary described a contrivance as something which imparts artificiality to a story, and this doesn't feel artificial to me, though I can see how it would to others, just as how I can imagine people thinking something was horribly amiss if those numbers ever did come out of the lottery

[@muhaoai4693]

If I remember right, in the comic Infinity Gauntlet several of the active Avengers of the time were victims of the snap, which is why the group that confronted Thanos was made up of a hodgepodge group of Avengers (Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Scarlet Witch), X-Men (Cyclops, Wolverine), solo heroes (Spider-Man, She-Hulk, Hulk) and villains (Doctor Doom), among others. The MCU lineup is nowhere near as huge, but then neither is their number of available characters. But then, the OG Avengers not being dusted makes sense from a meta perspective: Endgame is meant to be their final movie together. How insulting would it be for not all of them to be present because they got dusted?

[@joshkaid]

Also, Scott and the Pyms live in San Francisco... Which is in California. NOT New York.

[@redholm]

Heck. They might not even have turned on the TV to see that anything happened in New York that day. Like how Scarlet just happened to see it on a TV while they where on the street. Well, just before Vission being stabbed. But still :P

[@Alone-SF]

When he started pointing out why Thor cut off Thanos' head I thought he would start rapping Lose yourself

[@np7736]

Screenrant truly is an embarrassment. But their pitch meetings are fun though! I'm pretty sure that series attracts the majority of their subscribers and views.

[@usoppfangirl8153]

ScreenRant is like the superhero/cinema centric version of WatchMojo

[@jakeand9020]

Pitch meetings are tight.

[@SamanthaMidgleyIsANerd]

The guy who does the pitch meeting videos has his own separate channel, he’s hilarious 😆

[@jakeand9020]

Yes, the first person to, series is great.

[@jaidoo]

Samantha Midgley ye his name is Ryan George, u guys should sub to him

[@failed_K]

ScreenRant never watched the movie, They just wrote the rant based on Chinese Knockoff leaks

[@heavyspoilers]

Love your videos, great breakdowns

[@jokerisinthememe5852]

Ace attorney also has great breakdowns *badum tss* 😎🔫

[@horseoperamarker]

@@jokerisinthememe5852 lol

[@ChrisCraft1718]

I wouldn’t have given the half point for #9. Sure, it’s a plot contrivance that the OG Avengers weren’t dusted, but it was a plot contrivance in Infinity War; you know, the one where the dusting actually happened.

[@cheylonghini]

The last time I was this early, tony stark was alive

[@movieblocks9164]

Cheyenne I Classtrology how dare you. I still haven’t gotten over that.

[@steveboy3712]

@@movieblocks9164 love you 3000

[@sousukebosuke6568]

Cheyenne I Classtrology last time I was this early Tony Stark was still building his suit in a cave with a box of scraps

[@steveboy3712]

@@sousukebosuke6568 Last time i was this early spiderman got bit by a spider for the first time

[@movieblocks9164]

Last time I was this early people still considered cyclops cool. Now I am the only one left.

[@TheCammunist]

"The Earth was weak" I'm willing to bet all of the other big baddies were dealing with this as well. SR makes no sense. Hell, Galactus or any other big baddy could've been dusted themselves. Also a Snap is the only hand motion you can do with one hand alone that causes a loud sound or vibration.

[@diarrheadan1803]

The one-handed table slam

[@diegosanchez894]

I can clap one handed by slapping my fingers on my palm.

[@lacari0805]

Actually Thanos could’ve facepalmed instead of snapping

[@SnekkySnek]

@@lacari0805 "you shouldve gone for the head..." *furious single handed patty cake with Corvus*

[@Yal_Rathol]

@@lacari0805 incorrect, his fingers must be at least partially closed for the gauntlet to work. he would have had to punch himself in the face instead.

[@thestarrypoet]

*This is why I stick to Pitch Meetings.* Well, also because watching them is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@thundersplash5744]

And because watching pitch meetings is tight

[@solarfried3283]

The earth would even be less attractive to attack after infinity war, because a good amounts of the attacks on the earth were because of the infinity stones being there, wich are now taken by thanos.

[@AtenaHena]

Your wallpaper is correct

[@ElFlores1984]

Made me stop watching adventure time

[@hereiampercylover]

@@ElFlores1984 okay homophobe

[@ScathDe]

Made me love adventure time more

[@ScathDe]

@@hereiampercylover it happened on the last episode lmao

[@noamspector4270]

I thought i was the only one that has seen.

[@druchii_or_death1642]

I actually forgot Screen Rant is more than just Pitch Meeting.

[@baldrodinson3380]

Look, as a person really into Norse beliefs, Heimdall definitely has an R at the end of his name. That being said, these movies are not Norse mythology. If they were, Hella (instead of the movie's Hela) would have been Loki's daughter, the sister of Fenrir, and technically would have been cousins of Thor, as Loki is often referred to as either Odin's blood brother or foster brother. Also, Thor would have died in Ragnarök, succumbing to the venomous breath of Jörmungandr after Thor kills the serpent. Odin would have died in Ragnarök to Fenrir, who would have been killed by Viðarr, another of Odin's sons. These movies are based off the mythos to a degree, yes, but they are their own form of stories or interpretations of the events, and as such the characters in them have their own names, and don't have to follow the same spelling we have for them.

[@gloriousporpoise9731]

Wait I thought mythology Thor had literally no familial connection to Loki??

[@lacari0805]

Christopher O Donoghue He literally said that, blood brothers

[@raspberryjam3724]

Well, yeah, Thor and Odin would've died in Ragnarok. EVERYONE would've died in Ragnarok. Ragnarok was basically the Norse Judgement Day.

[@RTXWill]

@@raspberryjam3724 Thors sons survive Ragnarok.

[@raspberryjam3724]

@@RTXWill ok well I wasn't talking about them, was I? Edit: to clarify, when I said "everyone would've died," I meant almost everyone. I knew some people would survive, I just forgot who.

[@corydawodu.]

“I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back”-screen rant

[@JayExci]

"no" -me

[@arnavpandey3823]

@@JayExci well okay then

[@arnavpandey3823]

@@JayExci let me get off of that thing

[@avanishdutta2658]

@@JayExci Although i understand the problem with thor and hulk's arc, i hope marvel continues it. And to screencu*t, hulk is still out there. They are gonna continue his arc. Even thor's. Thor is with asgardians of the galaxy and has two movies coming out. They are handling the arc consistently enough as the characters are still there. But you can't disagree with me that marvel did something that game of thrones could not: give satisfying arcs to characters. Game of thrones kinda forgot, more like we had amnesia and never knew what happened.

[@mamasam5180]

“Okay, let me get off that thing!” 😁