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The WORST Draft Trade in Philadelphia Eagles HISTORY

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With apologies to the infamous Mike Mamula trade from the 1995 NFL Draft, at the 1971 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles made a somewhat forgotten trade that was noticeably worse. In 1971, the Eagles gave up three high draft picks in a trade with the Detroit Lions in exchange for quarterback Greg Barton. Barton played a grand total of zero snaps with the Eagles. This is the story behind the trade, and why and how it failed in spectacular fashion
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@AnomalyJM
@AnomalyJM 3 жыл бұрын
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@cdc6985
@cdc6985 3 жыл бұрын
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@breezecardenas3941
@breezecardenas3941 3 жыл бұрын
Man, that IS bad! And I thought the Saints trading their future away for Ricky Williams was bad! This was way worse!
@justinbeloy5829
@justinbeloy5829 3 жыл бұрын
As a Vikings fan, seeing this level of incompetence in another organization makes me feel a little better.
@richardtherichard26
@richardtherichard26 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the Vikings draft pretty well historically. The problem for them is winning in the playoffs unfortunately. More recently the nfc championship game. In the past the 4 Super Bowls of course. It’s tough being a a fan of this team man 😒
@clydemiller4776
@clydemiller4776 2 жыл бұрын
As an Eagles fan, I’ll think of this every time I start to complain about Howie Roseman making a stupid draft decision. This move makes him look like an astrophysicist in comparison.
@jmad627
@jmad627 2 жыл бұрын
As a Giants fan, I know what you mean.
@teresapflaumer5717
@teresapflaumer5717 3 жыл бұрын
There are FAR WORSE busts than Mike Mamula.
@mattcasey9104
@mattcasey9104 3 жыл бұрын
Jon Harris, just years later. 😝😝😝
@kimblandino
@kimblandino 3 жыл бұрын
Mamula was good for 7-8 sacks a year
@radarrob1443
@radarrob1443 3 жыл бұрын
31 sacks in 5 years and he is the biggest draft bust in Eagles history??? Don’t think so
@classicsports5057
@classicsports5057 3 жыл бұрын
The players picked in those draft by Detroit were Dave Thompson who never started and Kenneth Sanders who played several years for the Lions. The Lions traded the 2nd round pick to the Falcons who selected the Heisman Winner Pat Sullivan.
@fightsports66
@fightsports66 3 жыл бұрын
I decided to look up what the Lions got for the pick that the Falcons used on Pat Sullivan. On prosportstransactions.com the site says unconfirmed because there are two possible trades and they are not sure which is the correct story. One is they traded Paul Gipson to the Lions for the second round pick used on Pat Sullivan on 09/09/71. The other possibility is they traded Rudy Redmond, Sonny Campbell, and a 1973 fourth round pick (used on pick #91 Dick Jauron) for Pat Sullivan on 02/01/1972.
@SteelerFanInRI
@SteelerFanInRI 3 жыл бұрын
HOW DO YOU GET FLEECED BY THE DETROIT LIONS?!
@derekcabanaw1789
@derekcabanaw1789 3 жыл бұрын
It does happen from time to time. The Roy Williams trade to Dallas comes to mind. Also, they did get a nice haul back for Stafford this offseason.
@SteelerFanInRI
@SteelerFanInRI 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekcabanaw1789 it does, but I don't think it's ever happened to this degree before or since lol.
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 3 жыл бұрын
Easy, he the Philadelphia Eagles.
@thomasanderson6124
@thomasanderson6124 3 жыл бұрын
The Roman Gabriel trade by philly wasn’t that great either. The Rams got 2 number 1 draft picks, all star receiver Harold Jackson and running backTony baker for Gabriel.
@michaell874
@michaell874 3 жыл бұрын
You ought to do the one on Reggie White, who Bill Belichick, then Defensive Coordinator of the Giants pined real hard to draft him but was overruled when the Giants instead drafted OL Adam Zimmerman, who never played a down for the Jersey Jiads. If Bill would have gotten his way, then teamed with LT would have created a dynasty for NYG.
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 3 жыл бұрын
Been Giants fan since 1979 and never heard about that Hurts to think about, White on that three man line with Marshall on the line, Taylor, Banks and Carson behind at LB? What?!?!?!?
@chadwickwhite6107
@chadwickwhite6107 3 жыл бұрын
Michael I. The Giants drafted GARY Zimmerman that year instead of Reggie White. NOT Adam Zimmerman.
@michaell874
@michaell874 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadwickwhite6107 Shit. Sorry about that. Don’t ask me where I got Gary from.
@jeffsmith2022
@jeffsmith2022 3 жыл бұрын
So, why not tell the rest of of the Zimmerman story?...
@michaell874
@michaell874 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsmith2022 i am not a good narrator but the guy who does these shows does a great job.
@sweetminamosa2413
@sweetminamosa2413 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Howie Roseman Sr move
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 3 жыл бұрын
Even taking Sapp into consideration Mamula is far from the Eagles worst draft pick, he was solid until injuries ended his career early. JJAW Marcus Smith and Danny Watkins were all much worse.
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 3 жыл бұрын
Man no wonder their fans pelted Santa with snowballs! The Eagles in the late 60’s and early 70’s had to be one of the worst run organizations in all of football history
@blakedannion9232
@blakedannion9232 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in King of Prussia the year the Phillies won the world series. King of Prussia is a Philly suburb. I went to a few Phillies games and witnessed the fans boo Mike Schmidt. Long story short, they, Philly fans, are the worst. Philly fans steal candy from babies, kick puppies, make fun of handicapped people and throw ice balls at Santa. They misbehave even when their team is winning.
@orbyfan
@orbyfan 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to understand today why Greg Barton was so sought after in 1971, especially given his skimpy resume. He and Joe Theismann split the Toronto quarterbacking in 1971, but Barton's playing time was reduced after he broke a finger late in the year. He took over as the starter when Theismann broke his leg in the season opener in 1972, but his performance was so poor (0 TD, 9 INT) that he was cut after 4 games, all of them losses. Oddly, the Argos brought him back in 1973 as director of player personnel. He came out of retirement to play for the Portland Storm of the World Football League in 1974, retired as a player but coached the renamed Thunder in 1975, and remained in Portland, coaching youth sports and operating a quarterbacking school. Greg Barton died of Alzheimer's disease in August 2019 at the age of 73.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 3 жыл бұрын
What about the 1991 trade- The Eagles in order to move up in the first round in the 1991 draft, traded their 1st round pick in 1992 to the Packers. They then drafted Antoine Davis who became a bust. The players drafted with the #1 in 91 and the #1 in 92- Vinnie Clark and Kevin Smith. But, that #1 in 92 the Packers traded the pick to the Falcons for a fat, backup QB who was drafted in the 2nd round in 91.
@flexiblestrategist9922
@flexiblestrategist9922 3 жыл бұрын
Thank Kotite for that however Kotite's best player was Any Harmon who could have played on any defense in history.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 3 жыл бұрын
@@flexiblestrategist9922 You mean Kotite destroyed two teams?
@chopshec83
@chopshec83 2 жыл бұрын
@@flexiblestrategist9922 and Kotite also cut Jimmy Smith from the Eagles after one preseason game because he "doesn't know how to run a route"
@henrigreene3781
@henrigreene3781 3 жыл бұрын
Every draft in every sports league is a "crap shoot".
@denisceballos9745
@denisceballos9745 3 жыл бұрын
“We are very high on Barton”, said Pete Retzlaff, Eagles GM. I just looked up Barton’s statistics on pro-football-reference. Total 1 pass attempted - 0 completions. That’s career statistics. I don’t know what Pete Retzlaff was thinking...
@toddbiesel4288
@toddbiesel4288 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Eagles traded for Greg Barton because he had a higher passer rating than Norm Snead just by literally throwing every one of his passes directly into the ground.
@ryanmarshall4332
@ryanmarshall4332 3 жыл бұрын
You looked them up? He told you his stats in the video.
@denisceballos9745
@denisceballos9745 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan Marshall; I was fact checking. Three draft picks for that! Unbelieveable 🙄
@theecharmingbilly
@theecharmingbilly 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing they had area scouts in Tulsa and in Detroit who had a crush on him when he was in shorts. 🏃🏻‍♂️
@gluserty
@gluserty 3 жыл бұрын
Rick Arrington is the father of sportscaster & sideline reporter Jill Arrington; I remember Jim Nantz mentioning that tidbit during the pregame of the first playoff game between the Buccaneers & Eagles in January 2001. Pete Retzlaff was a good player for the Eagles, but as the team's GM things didn't go so well, especially with this pick.
@joemckim1183
@joemckim1183 3 жыл бұрын
The Eagles could've had Warren Sapp at their previous draft slot but lets instead trade up and give up more draft picks to get a worse Defensive Lineman.
@jeremydobbs9308
@jeremydobbs9308 3 жыл бұрын
If they're going to make THAT trade, how do they not throw in Snead and get Bill Munson in return? Incompetence at the highest level
@ClassicStreetIron
@ClassicStreetIron 3 жыл бұрын
Don't pull a Munson, you never want to pull a Munson.
@nasetvideos
@nasetvideos 3 жыл бұрын
This just has to be the worst draft day trade ever...I mean, based on what you just told us here, nothing is even close. What a disaster. Never even heard of this story. Not one of the better looks in Eagles' history, for sure.
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 3 жыл бұрын
This trade actually made Howie Roseman look like a competent general manager.
@Hinch2011
@Hinch2011 3 жыл бұрын
7:37 I like that a William Wallace was the author of this article.
@tonyb4481
@tonyb4481 3 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna mention an outstanding Mamula game you should've highlighted a game he had against the Patriots. I'm pretty sure he had three sacks and won defensive player of the week.
@scottconner7930
@scottconner7930 3 жыл бұрын
50 Years Ago
@ryanmarshall4332
@ryanmarshall4332 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t say how much the eagles were offering him. I’m curious. Also, I don’t understand trading for a guy who you only get the rites to for 3 weeks. He could have signed with any nfl team right? I must be missing something.
@jefferyreed4073
@jefferyreed4073 3 жыл бұрын
Say what u want about the EAGLES but that was really nice of them to give up 3 draft picks for nothing in return
@NinjaFaceJon
@NinjaFaceJon 3 жыл бұрын
@0:33 Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks*, not Dunn. Two HoFers in the first round
@bassguitari928
@bassguitari928 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought it was bad when Bruce Clark got drafted #4 overall by the Packers in 1980, nope-ed out of that to play in Canada, then came back and played with the Saints!
@christopherengel7436
@christopherengel7436 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! That's my Eagles in the late 60's & 70's (pre-Vermeil) oh what fun. Those first 3 QB's were pretty solid. Oddly Pastorini probably had the best win-loss ratio until Plunkett joined him as the back-up in Oakland
@yebobbummann1622
@yebobbummann1622 3 жыл бұрын
Fire Howie
@HowieDew
@HowieDew 3 жыл бұрын
No
@mwright_boomer
@mwright_boomer 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually worse than the Texans’ Osweiler trade
@Papawill13
@Papawill13 3 жыл бұрын
No Offense, but no trade can be worse than the Mamula trade. It has so many layers and so much pain attached to it that it has to the worst trade ever for one team. Lets recap... Bucs entered the draft with the 7th overall pick and 41st overall pick. Warren Sapp drops to the 7th pick and the Eagles Trade Up. To only pick Mike Mamula. Sapp drops to the 12th pick which the Bucs own in the Trade and pick Sapp. Heres the Trade and what happened to each pick. Bucs Trade 1st, 6th Overall Mike Mamula 3rd, 72nd Overall Greg Jefferson to Eagles for 1st, 12th Overall Warren Sapp 2nd, 43rd Overall Melvin Johnson 2nd, 63rd Overall Shane Hannah (trade to Cowboys) The Bucs then Trade with the Cowboys Bucs Trade 2nd, 41st Overall Ron Davis (traded to Falcons) 2nd, 63rd Overall Shane Hannah (from Eagles, through Bucs) to Cowboys for 1st, 26th Overall Derrick Brooks So the Bucs trade the 7th overall and 41st overall picks for Warren Sapp Derrick Brooks Melvin Johnson They gave up Mike Mamula Greg Jefferson Ron Davis Shane Hannah Fast Forward to January of 2003, Eagles playing in the last game in Veterans Stadium, the NFC Championship Game. Eagles Favored vs a team they had owned for the past 3 years. Then Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks walk in.... To this day the worse loss in Eagles History is that Game. And THEY made it happen!! The Philadelphia Eagles Literally Built a Wing in the Hall Of Fame for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers!!
@mrmojorisin2
@mrmojorisin2 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure Jerry Jones wasn't the GM of the Eagles back then???? "That boy throws a pretty ball!"
@denkeylee
@denkeylee 3 жыл бұрын
Your forgetting that Jones traded Hershel Walker to the Vikings and got almost twice the amount. lol
@mrmojorisin2
@mrmojorisin2 3 жыл бұрын
@@denkeylee That was more Jimmy's doing than Jerry...
@denkeylee
@denkeylee 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmojorisin2 He approved it.
@scottgreenberg1596
@scottgreenberg1596 3 жыл бұрын
Mamula was fine.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, if Sapp isn’t in that draft nobody even remembers that pick. Mamula was solid before injuries ruined his career. JJAW, Marcus Smith, Danny Watkins, Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougal, and Jon Harris have all been much worse picks since he was drafted
@philthornton1382
@philthornton1382 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the eagles failure
@TheRuns2
@TheRuns2 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, even the original Wentz trade was better for them than this.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the Eagles winning Super Bowl LII made those past mistakes a little less painful. 🏈
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Dumb (Draft Day) Decisions
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 8 ай бұрын
Do a video on the Saints trading all of their picks for Ricky Williams
@resurrectionsunday
@resurrectionsunday 3 жыл бұрын
They could have had OJ Simpson…
@questioneverythingtv
@questioneverythingtv 3 жыл бұрын
Brutal 😂😂😂😂
@DireHammer
@DireHammer 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get why Mamula gets brought up so much when talking about busts, he wasn't that big a bust. Was he drafted way too high? Yes. Was he the biggest bust in the draft? Not by a long shot. Ki-Jana Carter was taken at #1 overall and Michael Westbrook was #4. The year before Heath Shuler was #3 and Trev Alberts #5. The year after Lawrence Phillips was #6. Mamula was a solid starter until he was forced to retire due to injuries. 31.5 sacks, 8 forced fumbles, 5 fumble recoveries, an interception, and a defensive touchdown are nothing to sneeze at over a 5 year career.
@sabgab
@sabgab 3 жыл бұрын
It was the helmets, they were UGLY!
@SteelerFanInRI
@SteelerFanInRI 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@nickbradfordsr80
@nickbradfordsr80 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this sounds like us now SMFH #fireHOWIE
@TheRealfan1
@TheRealfan1 Жыл бұрын
Do you still feel same way?
@JonPITBZN
@JonPITBZN 2 жыл бұрын
If Mamula was drafted in the 3rd* round, nobody would talk crap about him. He'd be a guy that Eagles fans born in the 80s or before remember as a decent, maybe underrated player. Fans of other teams born in the 80s might remember him from their football card collections. But he wouldn't be talked about with such scorn. Greg Barton had 0 yards and a 39.6 passer rating in the NFL, 1000 yards and a 39.8 rating in the CFL, and 800 yards with a 49.1 rating in the WFL. He was just a bad QB. (*which is where he was rated based on his college tape, which is the ONLY thing teams should really be looking at anyway--combine numbers are stupid and people who move prospects up based on combine numbers are super ultra mega stupid)
@docnoc66
@docnoc66 Жыл бұрын
Pete Liske!
@orionparish9858
@orionparish9858 2 жыл бұрын
In all fairness to 1995, there was a lot of stupid going on with every team but one that year. And Warren Sap made them all pay.
@johnliberty3647
@johnliberty3647 7 ай бұрын
Not to mention not a lot of talent in the mid 1990’s as feminism and newly invented Birth Control Pills made motherhood unfashionable in the early to mid 1970’s
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 3 жыл бұрын
31.5 sacks in five seasons isn't bad. But it's not what you expect from that high a pick
@beaverswag6545
@beaverswag6545 2 жыл бұрын
Man greg is one of the greatest guys I have ever known. RIP.
@cardinalhistory6973
@cardinalhistory6973 3 жыл бұрын
wait a min your voice sounds very familiar did he used to make college football videos?
@javar2r3ra
@javar2r3ra 3 жыл бұрын
BWAHAHAHA! Just like wINTz deal!
@bryanfioriglio9459
@bryanfioriglio9459 3 жыл бұрын
Riiiiiiiiiight... only the second year after drafting him they go 13-3 and win the sb
@joeshmoe7789
@joeshmoe7789 3 жыл бұрын
When players became free agents by playing out their options in 1971, they weren't totally free. They had to deal with the "Rozelle Rule". Pete Rozelle would award compensation to the team losing the player and it was usually very high to discourage player salaries raising. There would've been compensation in 1971. Although Norm Snead made the pro bowl for the Giants in 1972, he really wasn't that good. While Philly would've been better if they kept Snead and didn't make that trade, they wouldn't have gone too far with Snead anyway.
@frankpalancio8471
@frankpalancio8471 3 жыл бұрын
Did Howie get into the hot tub time machine and make that trade?
@agornath1
@agornath1 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the eagles get screwed that big time again.
@Bigtmac2200
@Bigtmac2200 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, Eagles bad. . . . . . . This message brought to you by Dallas fans.
@woody72691
@woody72691 2 жыл бұрын
The worst draft pick will always be Jalen hurts. that was the biggest blunder of a pick I've ever seen
@TheRealfan1
@TheRealfan1 Жыл бұрын
Do you still feel this way?
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