The Worst Flat Earth Observation Video You'll Ever See

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WithTheSun33 (the flat Earther who made the really bad sundial) has decided he wants to try observational videos to disprove curvature. He fails on an epic scale, though!
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[@SciManDan]

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[@kaboom-zf2bl]

Montauk is a huge clue north end of manhattan island .. Montauk projects location

[@vernblack5200]

MyMan Dan, how cool it is that from the hundred of followers you had when I found your channel to over 60,000 views and half a million subs!!!! Great job!!!! .🎉

[@jimbob-robob]

A quarter of the video is an ad that when the story continues then gets interrupted by a KZbin inserted ad... KZbin is becoming unwatchable...

[@jimbob-robob]

He uses Google Earth for measuring which is based on globe earth satellite systems? 😂

[@darkridge]

I'm starting to suspect that the FE movement is just a viral Nikon marketing campaign gone awry

[@aesouris]

😆😆😆😆😆

[@Phil.mingue]

😂😂😂 nice one

[@Randleray]

If that is just half true, I hope Nikon is paying the guy well.

[@surabaya5927]

Gone wrong? Seems to work like a charm to me!! 😂

[@LukeVenables]

You mean the FE movement is like some sort of Nikon Advertising Secret Alliance?

[@fyrep0w3r]

I fly helicopters for an offshore utility company. The radio I use to talk to my boss has a functionally infinite range but only goes in straight lines. When I'm cruising along to a job site out over the ocean at 3000 feet, I can talk to my boss just fine. But when I get to the job and descend, my radio stops working. It's not a range problem, there's something blocking the radio. Something enormous. It's almost like I've flown behind a gigantic hill. Water is always level so it can't possibly be the water blocking me. Oh if only there was some sort of Model that explains this sort of behaviour that I've experienced Globally.

[@blindleader42]

It must be............... _Dark Matter_ getting in the way.😁

[@afg122602]

You can talk to your boss when you're in the air because the signal is bouncing off the dome. Once you are on the ground, you are out of range of both the main signal and the dome bounce signal.

[@howardmoon2687]

​@@afg122602Funny.

[@AlexisGonzalezG]

@@afg122602 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Slicerwizard]

@@afg122602 Clown. VHF/UHF antenna design concentrates the signal at the horizon, not at your fairy tale dome.

[@texmex9721]

Lighthouses have got to bother flat Earthers. 2500 years of building them as tall as possible for no reason, unless there is s curve.

[@edby263]

And crow's nests. Don't forget crow's nests

[@Cecily-Pimprenelle]

What ? You mean it's not because of the Giant Waves ? 😮 (Or krakens occasionnally waving so they have to build lighthouses taller than their arms/fins/tentacules/whatever)

[@barneyhall2753]

They need to be high so they remain above water during all the global floods. 🤣

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

Hahah

[@Rogerkknull]

Ha! Good one! You get comment of the day. 😂

[@ShapeDePapa]

Dude went from Flat Earth Friday to Tinfoil Tuesday real quick near the end there.

[@MattMcIrvin]

The sudden veer into mudflood/Tartarian architecture stuff was interesting.

[@user-vl7ys9nh1h]

Short weekend?

[@0SnakeDoctor]

I love when flat earthers try to use Google Maps to prove the Earth isn't a globe. It's max-level flerfing. And they don't even see the irony.

[@danthsmith]

What? Pictures taken from NASAs network of secret weather balloons? Or something...

[@MR-rp4cs]

😂

[@JesmondBeeBee]

Google Maps, which is lying when it shows something they don't like, and a rock solid reliable source when they think they're using it to prove their nonsense.

[@Trottah]

Yes!

[@rcslyman8929]

What? You all don't think that the commercial planes flying over are just dropping chemtrails everywhere, do you? Nah, they're also conducting photo recon, and spreading 5G!

[@moreon340]

"Now we have cameras with zoom." ... and we've had telescopes for centuries. This is not the point he thinks it is.

[@grahvis]

Flat earthers do seem to be ignorant about cameras being attached to telescopes.

[@frocat5163]

@@grahvis "Flat earthers do seem to be ignorant." FTFY

[@MichaelOnines]

We even have these fancy telescopes with precise levels in them so you can know what is in a straight line perpendicular from your vertical vector. Odd how useful that is in determining if something is falling below that in relationship with its distance away from you.

[@MattMcIrvin]

Many of them don't believe that you can just look through a telescope made of lenses and mirrors and see a planet resolved as a disc. They think that backyard telescopes are showing CGI.

[@thedubwhisperer2157]

@@grahvis I was told that ALL telescopes have 'automatic zoom' which is why the sun stays the same angular size as it goes further away when it sets!

[@skyinou]

"This camera is incredible" - proceed to not once have a clear and decent shot when zoomed in...

[@awhisperinthewind4253]

the nikons are getting a hard time due to these idiots, I enjoy using my P1000 for what it's meant for and that ain't flat earth proving

[@Hykje]

He doesn't understand how the digital Zoom works. The picture from digital Zoom is a magnification of the maximum magnification the optical Zoom can do -the more you Zoom, the fewer pixels there are in the image, and the image becomes a blurry mess.

[@h14hc124]

It is indeed an incredible camera, when operated by a competent user.

[@NomadSoul76]

Based on what we saw I don't think this is his fault. Did you see how it was very turbulent, it almost looked like the image was boiling or something? It's heat. The sun heats up the surface of the Earth or the ocean, the heat rises, and it creates these patterns. It's the line of sight not having air of one consistent temperature. The different temperatures are different densities and cause the air to curve slightly when it passes through the density differences. These things are harder to notice with the naked eye, strong zoom lenses can make them more obvious. One way you can sometimes see these things better is if you look at sunlight that passes through hot car exhaust or perhaps the hot gases coming off of a barbecue grill. The sunlight that passes through and it hits the ground will have almost a watery look, because the same thing is happening to it. Anyway the tldr of this is that his camera was probably showing what was really happening. When you look a long-distance across the surface of the earth, especially on a hot day, you can see stuff like this.

[@shantanusaha9746]

@@NomadSoul76 You can certainly notice this phenomenon with the naked eye. Anyone who has ever walked across a desert on a sunny day can see the ground in front of them shimmer and undulate like liquid water. The microturbulence of the air caused by heating and convection is the reason.

[@arnoldfossman1701]

They all seem to miss that there would be no point in making lighthouses tall on a flat earth.

[@frocat5163]

Something, something, flerfspective. Something, something, flerfraction. Something, something, check mate, globies!

[@scooterjackal]

The only thing the guy proved was that if you do a half-assed experiment, you get half-assed results.

[@h14hc124]

Honestly, I think he struggled to achieve quarter-ass here.

[@CD_Character]

Bart : "..and I don't need any more of your half-assed parenting techniques!" Homer : "Ohhh. But I was using my whole ass."

[@oldtvnut]

As we used to say in the engineering department, "Some ideas are vast, and some are only half-vast."

[@CD_Character]

@@oldtvnut Good one.

[@NortheastGun]

“Accuracy is key.” “Look at this house in the middle of the ocean. I bet there’s an interesting story for why that is there.” Points camera at a building that is clearly a lighthouse. Claims to be accurate but does absolutely no measurements, no research on the surrounding area and makes an uneducated guess on where he is pointing to. Misses the lighthouse at the point he claims to be pointing at. Sees another lighthouse and has no clue. Apparently, he has no idea what a lighthouse is.

[@tychobra1]

👍🏻 Very nice summary of the "research" this flerfer was presenting 😂😂😂

[@xenomorphphantom8852]

He ignores lighthouses deliberately like all other flaturds...according to orkley "they (lighthouses) prove the bulge"

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Pfft. Obviously a light house is a house that floats. Like a witch.

[@paulzuk1468]

Almost every other person alive today has a compact GPS receiver and compass in their pocket at all times. Flerfers: "How would I even know where I am or which direction I am looking in? Keeping a careful record of my Truth Seeking is clearly way too hard! I don't need to measure anything, I don't need to go crazy!"

[@gilleruadh]

I'm pretty sure that Columbus didn't make it to Montauk.

[@mikestrohm3271]

My favourite with flat heads is asking them why, when viewed from Blackpool, the windfarm in the distance appears to show the tips of the blades touching the water when, in reality, the tips of the blades are over two hundred feet above water level. Not one flathead has ever answered that question.

[@misuvittupaa8068]

Magic, duh

[@christopherhenrichs7543]

They are flerfs, of course they can't 😜

[@h14hc124]

"Perspective"

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

Yup, flerfspective

[@deerichardz]

My favorite with flatearthers, is to ask them, on their flat earth map, to show me the flight path you would take from Santiago, to Sydney ^^

[@dvgese]

I love how they say, “magical spinning ball” but don’t see the stupidity of a magical plate flying through space.

[@iwillnotcomplyistandformyf6642]

This comment is speaking facts

[@michaelhartwig3417]

But the flat earth isn't moving; it's the stuff on the dome that moves. Or is it just that they move the stuff being projected onto the dome? I never can remember.... In any case, congratulations, you've just debunked that silly globe earth model. Treat yourself to an ice cream after work! (just in case there's someone unfamiliar with what "/s" means)

[@fireriffs]

Most of them don't even believe in space. Not sure where they think their dirt pizza is.

[@iwillnotcomplyistandformyf6642]

@@fireriffs I was friends with 1 and he's an absolute dum-dum too

[@k.h.1587]

But they don't believe in space either. They believe our universe is basically a snow globe, fully contained with projections of the night sky on a dome. "THEY" must reside on the other side of the dome, and "they" created nasa (and scientists as far back as 1500 years), to perpetuate a lie that we are on a spinning ball in the middle of space with other spinning balls that we have been able to observe for over 400 years since 1609

[@johnmorris7815]

FLERFS can’t focus, FLERFS can’t use a tripod, in fact can’t do anything that requires calculation or skill of any sort.

[@xdragon2k]

Let me reiterate: the peope that can do those things are no longer FLERFS. The only ones that are left as FLERFS are the incompetent ones, and the grifters.

[@tma2001]

if only he had used the GPS on his phone to verify his position for everyone to check where he was filming from lol!

[@guytheincognito4186]

​@@tma2001 And ruin his manipulation with an easy way to debunk it? Nah they can't do that. 😂

[@GeeVanderplas]

To be fair, if they could do all that they probably wouldn't be flerfs to begin with

[@Lubu-xy2ig]

I'm suspicious he made it blurry enough that you can't easily verify which part of the island you're looking at

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

I was at a Rhode Island beach yesterday and you can look out at the Montauk lighthouse from the shore and you can’t see the hill that the lighthouse is on. You can look out to block island at the shore, then go to a higher position and see more of it

[@thegutto72]

When are flerfs going to learn how to use a camera?

[@daphnetilling6034]

about the same time they admit that they are idiots I am guessing

[@spidermike3]

And its always the Nikon P900,950 or 1000.

[@purefoldnz3070]

they dont even know how to use their own two eyes.

[@christopherhenrichs7543]

Flerfs lmao I love that term😂😂😂

[@Samsara12]

It's more like you'd keep a beer in the fridge to cool. But don't understand why it gets cold.

[@amigriffiths7861]

“Water always finds its level.” Just what you could expect to hear from someone who’s never seen tidal action, even despite, as in this case, having had the opportunity.

[@SVStoneAge]

I wish I was still in the Pacific NW so I could go back to Von Donop falls in Von Donop Inlet on Quadra Island... I would film the water flowing UP the falls twice daily - It's a pretty cool sight.

[@AshbyDr]

This flat earth said a couple of times that he wishes the footage wasn't so blurry, but he was the one holding the camera and getting the footage. Why didn't he just adjust the focus? Probably because doing your own research means not reading the camera's user manual like a sheep so he never found out how.

[@TheDiceman56]

yeah remember the user manual is also a big conspiracy.......lol.

[@DJNiems]

I don't think it's focus, I think it's atmospheric distortion from refraction -- which should be a big hint to this guy.

[@h14hc124]

.. or even use a tripod

[@DW-indeed]

The manual is written by NASA shills!

[@NomadSoul76]

​@@DJNiemsit's heat hazr actually. Yes that's it kind of refraction, but it's a different phenomenon because it doesn't bend it all in one direction.

[@fulltiltboogie1038]

How to be flat Earther: 1. Take ZERO measurements 2. Make claims on how you feel 3. Tell yourself you're the smartest 4. Display your genius on youtube

[@JohnnysCafe_]

A good example of a flerfs thought process, spots a unusual shaped lighthouse and turns it into a conspiracy.

[@keith726able]

He thinks it's a house! Out in the middle of the ocean.

[@Vader1138]

The ocean is really a giant receding mudflood exposing ancient, advanced, Atlantian architecture from when we used to fly in our airships to the lands beyond the ice wall.😂 Flerfs are of course wizard warriors exposing ancient secrets with their magical viewing devices.

[@WarpigA23]

​@@keith726able I'm pretty sure it is a house. That is, a residence for the lighthouse keeper, or it used to be- it might be automated now. But I don't know what his point is. Even if the the earth were flat, wiuldn't we still want lighthouses, to keep ships from running aground?

[@JohnnysCafe_]

@@WarpigA23 that's a good point 👍

[@dnael]

@@WarpigA23 It's about the height of the lighthouses

[@AnnoyedSonic]

“Where’s the curve?!” They yell, and I respond with “Where’s the bottom of the mountain / island!?”

[@SethÚasarune]

"I expect to be able to see that land. Therefore, the land I see must be that land. Don't need to check."

[@SysterYster]

Yeah, that's their so called "logic". XD It's hurtful. Of Course, you need to make sure you're looking at the right thing. Of course, you need to measure and be exact. otherwise, it just proves you're a dummy. XD

[@chrisstavrou7104]

Yep classic case of confirmation bias

[@TappedWalnut]

Captain hindsight here from a future video, He wasn't even close to looking in the right direction either 🤣 Not only wasn't it the closer part of long island, he wasn't even looking at long island ... Like just BANG on with that statement.

[@SodapopTheOutsider]

"What is this house doing in the middle of the ocean?" LMAO!! Thanks, Dan....Have yourself a great weekend!

[@DJ_Sycottic]

Flerfs think that it's only recently we've had the technology to see things at a distance. We've had zoom lenses and cameras that are better than the P900-1000 for decades, way before digital photography... 😂

[@thiscouldbeeasier]

👆

[@davidd384]

Add hand telescopes since the Galileo

[@h14hc124]

🔭

[@DoctorZisIN]

Isaac Newton made the first reflecting telescope 356 years ago. It was already better than the deflated earther's favorite camera.

[@tma2001]

like a surveyors theodolite!

[@burdenboy247]

'Well, where is the curve, globies, huh?!?!?!?' 'It's....right there...' 'Nuhuh!' A tale as old as time

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

P950? That's 50 better than the P900.

[@banu6301]

Yeah Nikon discontinued the P900 and replaced it with the P950. Of course some flerfs made videos about how nikon was forced to discontinue the god almighty P900 to "hide the truth", but failed to see they made a camera that replaced the P900

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

I wonder if flerfs have ever noticed the image of a satellite - on the flash cover of their P900 cameras?

[@__TK___]

More of a fan of the P90 tho

[@fang_falcon1600]

Coming soon P951 🤣

[@veryape5817]

Yeah, but it's also 50 worse than the P1000.......go figure 😉😂

[@Culky]

"If you perceive something it becomes your reality," he says, with absolutely zero self-awareness.

[@davidg4288]

And if you perceive something incorrectly it becomes part of your delusion.

[@thedubwhisperer2157]

@@davidg4288 A new definition of religion! I like it.

[@kelpkelp5252]

Ah, the magical 'they' again. One day we'll find out who 'they' are.

[@Phil.mingue]

No we won't😊

[@kelpkelp5252]

@@Phil.mingue Yeah I was being far too optimistic there :D

[@perry92964]

arnold j rimmer said it best "aliens"

[@freddan6fly]

@@perry92964 Arnold is smarter, nicer and braver than a flerf.

[@DolphinTownHarderwijk]

THEYYYYYYYYYY..................................................

[@mrflappie6553]

"Water does not stick to a ball" Why do none of these guys ever realise just how big of a ball Earth is?

[@michaelbradley3393]

And then there is that pesky thing called gravity...But then a moronic fool that cannot identify a lighthouse when the light is clearly identifiable wouldn't understand gravity...It'd be a magical force or some such thing. Then there's the matter of Columbus. A typical western outlook. Columbus found the east coast of the Americas for the Spanish, however there were inhabitants who 'discovered' it long before. A bit like Cook discovered Australia, or at least the east coast. He wasn't even the first European! Then there's evidence of Chinese traders interacting with Aboriginal peoples long before European 'discovery' and of course the First Nations people who actually discovered what became known as Australia.

[@ChrisBreederveld]

Nikon rubbing their hands every time a flerf speaks

[@martin_the_artist_]

It's genius really, they can keep selling this ancient camera tech for decades 😂

[@ChrisBreederveld]

@@martin_the_artist_ yep, it's my personal conspiracy theory: LEO, Dave and the like are Nikon plants to further the flat earth to increase sales. /s

[@matrixphijr]

“Let me know if I’m wrong” *hits buzzer* THINGS YOU’L NEVER HEAR FROM A FLERF!

[@ronanmckeown9785]

Here's a suggestion for those who want to prove there's no curvature. Before you take the earth-shattering image of the far-away thing on your P-whatever, take out your phone, open Google Maps, drop a pin on your location and record your exact longitude and latitude. Then measure how high above the ground your camera is. And lastly, record the exact direction your camera is pointing with a physical compass, the built-in compass on the same phone or the GPS Tools app. The whole world will then be able to calculate your location, observer height and what you are actually looking at and verify your "proof".

[@h14hc124]

But then they wouldn't be able to "prove" their claims !

[@DW-indeed]

Woah there, that sounds like some kind of scientific approach...or "method"

[@joshuapray]

Yeah, but remember he said he didn't need to do any measurements or anything because it's just so obvious!

[@Slicerwizard]

Silly OP. First rule of flerf is gotta lie!

[@davidg4288]

I'm kind of surprised that fancy camera doesn't just do that, maybe it's an option. My old phone used to record latitude, longitude, and altitude in the metadata on every photo.

[@chriscasperson5927]

"How did you get the distance to the subject of your photograph?" "I used Google Earth." Thanks for confirming the globe.

[@frocat5163]

And their excuse for using Google Earth is that the people who created Google Earth simply changed everything to make the magical dirt pizza conform to a sphere. Because apparently you can somehow make the Earth look spherical on Google Earth yet still have everything match the flat Earth "reality."

[@natlegend]

Flerfs just have no idea how f**king big the earth is.

[@TheGuruStud]

Small brain= small world 😎

[@markhansen5142]

You could have stopped when you typed "idea."

[@MGower4465]

Well, to us tiny humans its huge. Astronomically Earth is very small

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

'So I went into Google Earth' .......... without realizing the irony of that statement??

[@Jan_Koopman]

"Water is always level" * shows footage of water waving, which is a type of curving *

[@LuigiFan1akaStar]

"Water always finds it's level at rest" - Some Flaters

[@bodan1196]

@@LuigiFan1akaStar For water to be at rest, it would have to be far far away from any significant gravity well. No?

[@LuigiFan1akaStar]

@@bodan1196 I don't really know, I just know some Flat Earthers would say it as an excuse

[@Deletirium]

​​@@bodan1196​ No. The Earth's gravity doesn't make water move. If the moon were stationary relative to us, its gravity wouldn't make water move either. As it is, the moon is not in a perfectly circular orbit, which causes the gravitational effect to increase and decrease, creating tides on earth.

[@bodan1196]

@@Deletirium To be at rest... is that; to not be under the influences of forces, or that the forces are at a balance, at an equilibrium?

[@SeonasStudio]

‘Now we have these amazing cameras’ dude has never heard of telescopes. They’d blow his little mind.

[@Person-ef4xj]

He’s willing to use Google Earth to find the distance but he also believes there’s a grand conspiracy to cover up the shape of the Earth. If he’s going to be a conspiracy nut he should at least be consistent and not use Google Earth to confirm a distance.

[@sigisalmen2399]

But what else could he use? There's literally nothing else. I wonder why? I imagine him saying: "Now, let's open the Google flat earth map to measure the distance." 😂😂😂

[@RichWoods23]

He has to use Google Earth because he doesn't know how to read a map.

[@matperry18]

This happens with pretty much all flat earth “arguments”. Keeps yapping about van allen belt for why we can’t go on the moon, yet they have that info from the same scientist they otherwise don’t believe.

[@Thomas-fb5tf]

I was going to say the same. Every Flat Earther uses some sort of GPS which, I believe, require at least 4 "imaginary" pieces of hardware in orbit at any given moment for a single location.

[@grahamsmith8648]

Flat earthers, your being lied to. The earth has found it's curve again!

[@Adam0Lees0]

"I don't need to measure anything" 8:26. Yes, you very much do need to measure things when taking measurements." Holy cow, the intelligence level of some people..

[@davidb3990]

I love how they start with google earth - a technology developed by science! And a camera developed by science. Can he explain how the Nikon works? No. How a semiconductor works? No. But someone the earth shape he’s an expert

[@HellbellyUK]

I love how he threw in little bit to Tartaria/Mudflood in there as well, just in case anyone thought we wasn't completely loopy.

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

Gotta throw in that "Water finds its level" and "We've been lied to" bit don't they? Smh.

[@SanderEvers]

Well flerfers are being lied to by other flerfers, so that's correct.

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

@@SanderEvers Very good point. Give him cred for honesty huh? Lol

[@sonofbr]

I would love to see flat water in space or zero gravity but he probably doesn't believe in either.

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

@@sonofbr Ikr!

[@erniet2481]

Why can't he see the UK? He has a P950...

[@KornPop96]

I wake up around 2 a.m. every morning for some reason, and starting the day with some flerf nonsense with Dan always puts me in a good mood.

[@mr2atara]

So you woke up around 17½ hours ago...

[@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation]

​@@mr2atara the better question is where on earth is this person don't behave like flat earth enthusiasts

[@KornPop96]

@@mr2atara I woke up about an hour and a half ago.

[@KornPop96]

@@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation I'm on Eastern Standard time. East Tennessee to be exact.

[@mr2atara]

@@KornPop96 Oops, I forgot to put the whole "Lol" or "🤣🤣🤣" at the end.

[@kathleenmccrory9883]

That blurry photo describes the state of his brain perfectly, unfocused and blurry.

[@bluewinds10]

I disagree, he doesn't own a brain.

[@marklatimer7333]

So the author of the nursery rhyme "Ring a Ring o' Roses" is responsible for the Black Death that killed 50 million people - wow that's a bummer!

[@TheClearwall]

Ring around the Rosey?

[@kevinmould6979]

@@TheClearwall No; "A ring, a ring of roses". It describes the shape of the rash seen in the early stages of bubonic plague. The nursery rhyme started in the the UK.

[@afg122602]

​@@kevinmould6979I was just about to ask where you were from. In our "infinite wisdom" here in the u.s. they made it "ring around the rosey"

[@petertrudelljr]

@@afg122602 yeah, to force the rhyme with posies in the next line... sad.

[@davidg4288]

At least you don't have to skip to the loo. That'd be a different plague.

[@MehralsvierZeilnelesne]

I still don't get why they don't try to take a photo of the Mount Everest from the Empire State building. On a flat earth this should be possible with a good camera

[@mglenadel]

You just wait for the Nikon P970. It's 20 better than the P950.

[@tychobra1]

Of course this is stupid, because there is refraction, haze and perspective preventing us to see so far. Or do we see the sun at night? No, because of perspective it has set in the distance. (end of flerfer BS and irony off)

[@saruwatarikooji]

Another simpler one would be take a picture of Tampa, FL while standing on the beach in Corpus Christi, TX. If the earth was truly flat, that should be a braindead simple photo to get with a decent camera and a telescope.

[@a7734999]

As an alcoholic drug addict, I must know what that guy is on. So I can make sure I don't take it ever!

[@robadams1645]

I can almost guarantee he's on Christianity.

[@tzvikrasner6073]

"I didn't get fancy with this" Just flat-out admitting he's deliberately ignoring the part of the math that proves the curve.

[@thomasowens5824]

"It proves my point"....Errr No, we are all still waiting for your point.

[@ceejay0137]

Looking at the 'house' he shows at the end, you can SEE it's a lighthouse, for goodness' sake! There's a freaking light tower on the top of it! What's wrong with this guy??

[@andystokes8702]

He's never stopped to wonder why anybody would go to the trouble of building a house in the middle of the sea, the logistical problems involved are horrendous and when it's finished it's a really inconvenient place to actually live. Just imagine something as simple as doing the weekly grocery shop. Amazon and UPS are going to struggle a bit with deliveries too.

[@kg6801]

He told us what's wrong with him, he percieved that it looked like a house and that became his reality and he showed us he didn't bother to prove to himself that it's not.

[@h14hc124]

@@kg6801 I see what you did there.

[@Yehan-xt7cw]

@@andystokes8702 But you can have the best party ever without neighbors complaining about the noise.

[@joshuapray]

@@andystokes8702 I think his point is precisely this; the inconvenience of having a 'house' in the middle of the ocean implies that we just found it out there and that it's left over from some previous era that we simply lie to ourselves about. But yeah, it's a lighthouse, so none of that conjecture applies.

[@memkiii]

I love his comment "Everything is upright" referring to the blurry mess that he is looking at. Meaning that he thinks we see things sloping visibly away from us when they are "over the curve"... They really do have a problem with scale and the 3rd dimension.

[@Matuse]

It's 15 degrees o'clock, time for another SciManDan video!

[@A15degreeperhourdrift]

Thanks Bob.

[@pigmeatmarkham898]

9:40 “They’re telling ships that there’s land there.” 😂😂

[@shadowman7307]

"I didn't do any fancy measurements but I can see from this blurry footage that something looks like something I think, therefore erf iz flat, wuter finds its levul, THEY are lying, blah blah blah..."

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

I signed up with Ground News. Now the only news in my feed is Sci Man Dan. I may have been conned.

[@radarlockeify]

Columbus personally found the Caribbean. Eventually, much to the despair of the Caribs living there.

[@davidg4288]

I'm here from the Old World to bring alcohol and disease and slavery.

[@moon_wobble7782]

“In the middle of the ocean?” It’s at the Thames river and Long Island sound intersection.

[@Penster-Elle]

Why is it that no Flerfs ever ask, nor answer, the questions of: "Who are the 'they' that Flerfs refer to?", "What do 'they' have to hide?" and "Why do 'they' want to hide the proverbial 'it' from us?"

[@DoctorZisIN]

It's a cabal made of the shadow government, the reptilians, the Freemasons and Lucifer himself.

[@NomadSoul76]

More interesting is why he thinks that they at the same time are putting up messages for people like him to find. He thinks it is a massive worldwide conspiracy to hide things from people yet he also thinks that the conspiracy tries to tell people. I joke about this that they seem to think that the conspiracy is a giant intelligence test, but this almost seems to be what they think. They think that these coded messages are left out there for the smart people like them to find it. But if that was the case wouldn't there be a reason for it? What's the point of letting them figure it out and then just ignoring them and letting them make KZbin videos about it? They're desperate to think their lives are more exciting and interesting than they really are, they've written themselves into some sort of thriller movie where they found the secrets and that's supposed to change things in some way, but nothing changes.

[@meloney]

They say that 'they' are trying to hide god.

[@dragonhealer7588]

Something about Jewish machine gun totting space Penguins. . .

[@RealBLAlley]

I'm just glad it's not Them!. Those giant ants are creepy af.

[@bugs1285]

I saw an ad of FE’s. It’s amazing, I’m paraphrasing a little. Something like. ‘The largest society of Flat Earthers on the GLOBE!’ Well that’s curious wording isn’t it? Do they even know what a globe is?

[@simongiles9749]

Im going to keep banging this drum about the "do your own research" crowd. In experimental design there is a concept known as "validity". It means, does the test you are performing actually measure the thing you want to measure. Its very important in fuzzier topics like psychology and social science, but applies in harder sciences becayse you need to use instrumentation that is appropriate. Creationists like mis-using radiocarbon dating on things tgat have no carbon in, are older than the effective date range, or are known to have confounding factors. Flerfs like to use bad photography, bad maths, and incorrectly acaled analogies.

[@fleetadmiralj]

yeah, but flat earthers also think that the entire notion of the scientific process is part of the "scam" being pulled on them.

[@jimmeade2976]

Another important point. The curve calculator clearly says it's not accurate looking over water ... because of diffraction.

[@Noob0perator]

Flerfers make me feel so smart!

[@h14hc124]

I posted some basic, and I mean really basic, facts about electricity and power poles on another video, and my goodness, the sheer number of utterly ignorant comments in reply is just astonishing, not to mention comments calling me an elitist scholar, comments about how my post had too many words for them to bother reading, comments about how nerdy my post was.. just so much blatant anti-intellectualism, as if having an understanding of really simple everyday things is something to be ashamed of. I mean.. yeah it's youtube comments, I should expect trolls and idiots, but just the amount of ignorance still suprised me.

[@Deletirium]

​@@h14hc124 Flat earth is a cult of celebrated ignorance. They practically worship it. Feels intensely dystopian.

[@iwillnotcomplyistandformyf6642]

Ikr lol 😂

[@grantharriman284]

Wow, I actually thought to myself when the flat earther first showed the map "the Montauk Point line is right next to that other piece of land and it's WAY closer" then that turned out to be the answer. This is becoming too easy to predict. Flat Earthers need to try harder and find new ways to get it wrong.

[@oledilep]

His observational skills are astoundingly bad, what a muppet.

[@GibsonCRG]

Wow, that moved quickly from a mediocre case of confirmation bias to a full-on Flat Earth Friday freak out diatribe. Happy Friday!

[@miyahollands6136]

this guy seems to wonder from one train of thought, to another - is he trying to give C.C. (from West County), a run for his money? I love how he praises the beloved Nikon camera, every flat Earther's camera of choice, for being "awesome!", but then starts apologing for the lack of detail - how convenient!

[@lidbass]

So, if I’ve understood right, they write the poems first, and then change the history to fit them? Is that correct? OK then… Flerfer, flerfer, you’re not real Ignore science, trust in ‘feel’ Gravity bad, and sun is near Flerfer, flerfer, disappear!

[@Snotzalotz]

😂😂😂😂 beautiful

[@FreshtexBlackman]

The problem with Flat-Earthers are that they go looking for confirmation of what they already believe (Confirmation Bias) and can't /won't see anything else contradictory to what they already believe

[@awhisperinthewind4253]

blinkered

[@MadHax-wt5tl]

Absolutely. When anyone says, "I did my own research." They are really saying, I went looking for validation. They start with a conclusion, and work backwards. Exactly the reverse of the scientific method.

[@davidg4288]

@@MadHax-wt5tl So "Fire!" "Aim!" "Ready!".

[@Snommelp]

So it seems like the only thing you need to do to completely confuse a flerf is ask "how do you know which island you're looking at?"

[@randomunavailable]

That lighthouse is more house than light. It should be called a houselight.

[@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation]

😂😂😂

[@awhisperinthewind4253]

laughing, it is a nice looking building though

[@randomunavailable]

@@awhisperinthewind4253 It's gorgeous. I looked through Google for some interior shots, unfortunately there's not much there but I understand it's under renovation.

[@Jan_Koopman]

Right hand head rule: the latter part of a compound noun is the most important part. It's a lightHOUSE

[@russellflagg8519]

sounded like he was about to say the lighthouse was probably there before Columbus, then he got sidetracked by nursery rhymes

[@wizardsuth]

I'd heard of moon landing deniers, but this is the first time I've heard of a Columbus landing denier.

[@Paine981]

Just take a screenshot from his video where he shows a wider view and narrow the image in paint. You will see that the horizon is ever so slightly curved... Every single time...

[@carlglidden3374]

On my way to work about 6;30 AM yesterday, there were some particularly tall clouds. I noticed that only the top part was illuminated and as time went on,the illuminated part got lower. Hard to explain if the Earth was flat.

[@eddiebruv]

Why do they use Google Earth? Surely it’s in on the conspiracy?

[@famousXrobot]

I’m from Long Island and frequent Montauk (including the lighthouse area) and this video was too close to home! Another terrific debunking. I love how this FLERF wanted to “keep it simple” by not specifically documenting any details.

[@rowan7929]

They will always use the excuse that water finds its level. Then ignore everything else. They are so good at this.

[@nagranoth_]

While (a) the water doesn't do anything, let alone find anything, it's gravity doing the leveling of water, and (b) level IS curved. So not only is every source they use a troyan source, the statements they make themselves show contradict what they wish were true.

[@purefoldnz3070]

water is level to the surface of a spherical planet, they dont even know what level means

[@karina833]

If water always finds its own level then how do tides work? Flerfs can't answer this simple question sensibly.

[@sorsimmanis626]

Tides are just water being hesitant about its correct level.

[@h14hc124]

@@karina833 Sometimes they emphasise that *still* water finds its level. They're still wrong, of course.

[@renedekker9806]

I like the sailing boats at 3:50 of whom only the sail is visible, with the hull behind the horizon.

[@tornagawn]

“I didn’t get fancy with this”………. aka measurements don’t matter…. Water ‘finds its level’ due to gravitational attraction to the earth 😜

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Remember kids. Water droplets are flat.

[@clivedavis6859]

Water (in fact everything) conforms according to the forces acting on it.

[@39zack]

But flattards don't believe in gravity, only gravy-tea

[@h14hc124]

It's amazing how water in freefall fails to find its level

[@blindleader42]

He really f'd up when he accidentally got the New Londen Ledge lighthouse in focus so that any effin' idjit can see that it' a lighthouse. Well, I guess not _every_ effin' idjit.😆

[@davexmit]

Where's the rest of the water and land? Does he think that island is the edge of the earth?

[@blakeparton4356]

I am a recurring viewer of the show! Love the takes and all of the science used to prove these "theories" wrong. My wife and I were having a conversation about flat earth and said, "If the earth was flat, shouldn't I always be able to see the closest mountain range? Nothing is higher than that? What if you were on top of a building? You could theoretically be able to use a telescope to see the tip of Mount everest." It boggled my mind how she didn't think about the science, just used common sense, and I thought it was a good point to make. Theoretically, if the earth was flat, we should be able to stand on the east coast of the United States and see Morocco and Portugal. We have telescopes strong enough to do that. If you're by the ocean, you should be able to see ANY oil rig on a flat earth. Interesting point indeed.

[@stynsusmfgu1578]

so your telling me that on a nice day i can see 3000 miles across a body of water... i dont think you lived by a lake that on some days you cant see 20 miles because of humidity or rain storm going by 5 miles from you... now lets try 3,000 miles, i would like to know what kind of unicorn shit you eat because you should stop and get some help... maybe research atmospheric distortion before making yourself look like an idiot...

[@mdgilletteyt]

I’ve gone out of New London hundreds of times by boat. The New London Ledge Lighthouse is fairly close in. With the garbage video he has its very difficult figure out what he’s looking at. Though from Waterford beach or Ocean beach the NLL lighthouse would be almost directly east and looking straight down Fishers Island Sound. Not even close to pointing at the tip of Long Island which is, at best, SSE of New London. With the view I’m seeing I believe he’s looking at Fishers Island and thinks it’s Long Island. Fishers Island is only about 5-6 miles away and almost 9 miles to the eastern tip. The geometry of seeing the NLL lighthouse to the right of Fishers Island, as seen in his video, would be virtually impossible from any New London beach.

[@Ben-mk9ig]

I came to the same conclusion just by using Google Maps. Good to have eyewitness confirmation.

[@BobMossNanoTanks]

I wonder if flat earthers will ever realize that the lone act of using Google Earth to determine distances between points invalidates everything they're trying to argue. It's using a globe, they're unconsciously accepting the truth from the start. They should do their own research and measure distances themselves, since they think it's flat.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

As Bugs would say…. “What a maroon.”

[@khandimahn9687]

From "photography" that doesn't prove what they think it does (yet again)... to "history is a lie"... this one sure escalated at the end.

[@nagranoth_]

I find it very interesting that flerfers never use the metric system...

[@brianlee5702]

I find it hilarious when they use nautical miles.

[@h14hc124]

That's just because the majority of the vocal ones we see on youtube happen to live in America

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Distance across surfaces: miles Distance above surface: thousands of feet

[@cryochick9044]

​​@@h14hc124a huge part of the vocal english internet is american america isn't much smaller in population than the EU and the EU speaks a lot less english than America does hence why English speakers see more americans typically

[@Insolent_JDNLC]

@scimandan, welcome to my neighborhood! You're pretty much spot on with your analysis here, and it saddens me to know that I missed the guys' antics when he was here....

[@lyleswanson7557]

Since Kansas has been scientifically proven to be flatter than a pancake. I would like to see a flathead take a picture of Topeka Kansas from Lawrence Kansas.

[@WarpigA23]

"The corn grows really tall in Kansas" or something...

[@corey2232]

I'm confused... If he doesn't think that's a lighthouse & instead thinks that's just a regular old house chilling out there, what's he implying "tHeY" lied to us about? What's that house "actually" out there for? Was it a mysterious race of water people, perhaps from Atlantis?!

[@davidg4288]

This is great stuff! Maybe they built houses for lights! Maybe there are houses for greens? Or houses for boats! Or houses for sh... he'll get the idea I think.

[@john6203]

God, you could actually catch stupid off these people. A classic example of the Dunning Kruger phenomenon.

[@MrPixiepantz]

Oh dear God, he's a Tartarian too? The whole "Founded" argument is hilarious.

[@jonathanmormerod]

Using Google Earth to check the distance.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jblonar]

I live in that area. I have a spotting scope that I can attach my phone to. If you want I can try to get some clearer footage of that entire area of the island. Coincidentally, I live about 10 mi away from Waterford Beach

[@Bbfishman]

ugh, the most annoying part of these guys is the blind confidence they have about what theyre saying. and they always love to say "the answers are right in front of us and theres a reason for why they did it this way, just to laugh in our faces"....as if you were keeping a massive secret from people but you'd sit there and try to leave as many clues as possible to give away the thing you're trying to keep secret. so weird

[@CreativeWebGuy]

When I first was watching, I kept saying "where's the lighthouse?". You are correct IMO.

[@tornagawn]

Gotta lie to flerf ©️ MCToon

[@philvogelfilms]

“Now that we have cameras”… my dude, telescopes have existed for hundreds of years

[@helicopterharry5101]

Honestly his obsession with the lighthouse was better than the stupidity with the camera. You know a building built to counter curvature. I like that he gets a high from his presumed victory and goes on a conspiracy victory lap to doubt that an old building is some kind of alien technology or something.

[@brianlance]

3 months ago, I was 160km away from where WithTheSun33 made his video, on the south shore of Cape Cod. From our cottage on the beach, at a viewing height of about 3m, I could not see any bit of Nantucket Island 30km away. No matter how hard I zoomed. I watched boats seemingly vanish all around the same distance away. At night, along with boats' lights instantly vanishing, a mysterious pulsing beam of light appeared shining an at angle through the fog. Turns out there is a lighthouse on the NE tip of the island. Really strange that they would have the light angled up to the sky. ;) Unfortunately I wasn't able to get any usable photographic evidence of this bizarre phenomenon. Too busy just enjoying being there.