The Worst Item in Stardew Valley

[@jessehunter362]

The worst part imo is that worm bins irl can be constructed really really easily. You just need a bin and leaves. no hardwood or gold anywhere.

[@danielh12345]

No gold? How are you going to pay the worms for their production?!?!?

[@jessehunter362]

@@danielh12345Leaf.

[@TheRationalPi]

Seriously. The items to craft a worm bin should be Wood, clay, fiber, and a few starter bait.

[@Craxin01]

Any generic compost works as well. Leaves are fine, but I use table scraps for mine, which I am using for castings (worm poop) to use as fertilizer for my garden.

[@jessehunter362]

⁠@@Craxin01Be wary of giving them too much table scraps! they eat primarily leaf litter in the wild, and giving them too much other food can enable pests in the bin, and make it stinky. Can be done, but it’s not something I particularly like to risk

[@ryninja5788]

Honestly I wouldn’t mind having the output of the worm bin be tied to your fishing level, where the chance for wild bait is increased along with the amount of normal bait increasing each level. So like at level 10 you could get like 10 a day with a medium or high chance for wild bait. Tho I think for wild bait the chance should only appear once you get the recipe from Linus so you can’t just skip him entirely.

[@MrDynamite110]

How would that work in multiplayer?

[@ryninja5788]

@@MrDynamite110 perhaps it goes by who made it? Or it checks your player level when you interact with it.

[@onnivinpelzel6368]

This is an AWESOME idea! I like the worm bin already, because it means you never have to make trips to Willy's anymore or use your bug meat for bait, it's just closed-loop chore filling crab pots with the never catch trash profession. Your idea transforms them from a convenience item that takes a while to pay off, into a luxury item that saves countless hours of foraging and crafting to stockpile primo bait for heavy fishing days. Creative and effective!

[@ryan20028]

​@@MrDynamite110on interaction

[@taisato2091]

Usually in multiplayer when selling stuff it only checks if anyone on the server has set proffesion. It can work that way too for worm bins, if there is somebody with level 10 fishing and wild bait unlocked - worm bins work like that@@ryninja5788

[@seralyna_]

I do think its funny that while talking about liking making honey, you demonstrate a major annoyance by accidentally picking up the flower during harvest

[@salmence100]

That's also a great idea!

[@Medusa_The-Bard]

​@@salmence100h u h

[@pyw_myday_carat]

I actually did that almost every time by accident, kinda annoyed tbh It's so hard to not pick up the flowers when I'm harvesting fast and my bee houses are so close to the flowers

[@DrZaius3141]

@@pyw_myday_carat It's why you place 8 hives directly around the flower (7, if you go with a sprinkler instead of deluxe retaining soil). It's still garbage unless you do permanent Fairy Rose on Ginger Island but even then there are far better options.

[@Philip027]

If you know you're going to go hard on beehives, get into the habit of filling your inventory completely minus 1 slot before you harvest the honey. As soon as the first honey is picked up, your inventory will be full, which will prevent you from accidentally grabbing any flowers.

[@Nickle_King]

When I first discovered the Worm Bin. *Looked at my 1500 bait, most of which I got from Bug Meat* "...why?"

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

I put them next to crab pots, because it saves me the 5 seconds of removing bait from my fishing rod, then readding the bait to the fishing rod

[@Porkey_Minch]

@@Spencer-wc6ew That's the most convincing argument I've heard for worm bins thus far. At least in vanilla.

[@Deedj1]

Worm bin my beloved. Made a river farm file to specifically use this, and it was so not worth it ❤️

[@sumadre101]

😂

[@KitsukiiPlays]

He got us on the first half, lol

[@DippinFlingus]

I still feel like the Worm Bin, bad as it is, is better than the Cookout Kit. Really do not see the utility in getting that at foraging 9 when I'll already have a kitchen at home

[@bigfrog4231]

the cookout kit really lost its utility when they nerfed the sale price from a whopping 3000g to a measly 80g. really hope tea saplings don't meet that same fate one day.

[@bigwave1713]

I mean at least I can see a unit, like for example if your doing fishing at the ocean (allow for you to not sell the stuff). It more of an ease of use convenience item then gameplay bonus

[@Maryaminx]

I've used it for the chef stuff when completing the community center before having a kitchen. So it does have some small utility

[@scroogledoogle3028]

I like the cookout kit as a decoration and wish it could be placed permanently. Additionally I think it should be accessible at an earlier level to operate as an easier to access kitchen, lacking the convenience of fridge access to avoid the kitchen being redundant.

[@vividBloodsucker]

Cookout Kits at least have a niche use in a self-imposed challenge. If you don't upgrade your home at all it's your ONLY source of cooking you'll have.

[@erikm8373]

I would also consider giving it an inventory rather than being picked up, so bait can just pile up until you decide you need it. For some added functionality, maybe if you store your bait in it, the bait you get each day increases, almost like interest, so it's easy to have a ton of bait ready if you're fishing in the endgame.

[@c0d3r1f1c]

Yes, please. This is exactly what I was going to say. It should be able hold a reasonable amount of worms. Not unlimited, probably not a stack of 999, but maybe 100? Enough that you can get away with only checking it occasionally and not totally lose out.

[@christinahankins4114]

Totally agree, and like the other commenter said it only needs a small inventory, but if you leave it for a few days it makes perfect sense you'd have 20 worms instead of 2 when it's been sitting there for a week.

[@mosespray4510]

Now you're talking!

[@merandasomnolentgamer8323]

Once you know about tea saplings, you really can't look at fiber the same way ever again.

[@rambam791]

Iridium

[@DrZaius3141]

By extension, you will realize that "Community Cleanup" is the most important board quest. Also, you will finally see that people who plant mixed seeds are wasting money. For those missing the connectors: The quest gives you the recipe for fiber seeds - which cost sap (ubiquitous), clay (infinite via clay farming) and mixed seeds (bottle neck). One mixed seed yieds 44 fiber and .4 mixed seeds (both numbers on average) which is almost 4,500 gold in tea saplings (of course you have to factor in the cost of wood and wild seeds - but the former can be bought cheaply in year one while the latter is - next to fiber - the only thing you can plant all winter, so you will have tons of it).

[@CrazyIvan865]

I use fiber and mixed seeds to make fiber seeds, destroy all crops on the 27th of fall and plant fiber seeds, leave it until spring, harvest fiber and my shit is tilled, watered and DSG'd for spring. At the end of spring, I destroy all crops and plant coffee beans. 1st of summer if axe almost all the coffee and plant summer crops, 27th of summer (if using DSG+agriculturalist) ND plant wheat which harvests on the first of fall and leaves everything tilled, watered and DSG'd for fall crops. Repeat. I'm saving shit tons on deluxe speed grow. In my newest playthrough, I've had to by the DSG twice, made most of what I needed and I'm in summer yr 3.

[@nesraspongx58]

and as a tea lover myself, even if i don't sell it it'd be the supplier for my mornings

[@GrimTheDestroyer]

True

[@GorggW]

As a proud owner of multiple worm bins, and am currently building a live museum of all the fish in the game, I'm incredibly grateful for my worm bins

[@xX__ErectDiddyP445__Xx]

One in a million Starder player

[@alejocuevas4034]

You could've literally bought more than ten times the bait they produce in years with the ingredients used to make them

[@neffrey]

Wait’ll he finds out that bait is the cheapest thing in the entire game

[@GorggW]

@@alejocuevas4034 yuh i, watched the video

[@GorggW]

@@neffrey again i, watched the video

[@bigfrog4231]

honestly id love it if the worm bins worked similarly to the crystalarium! pop in the bait of your choice, wait a few days depending on what you put in, and get more bait out! obviously this wouldnt be beneficial for regular bait, as its super easy to get ur paws on, but think of the possibilities for wild bait? magnet? magic bait?

[@lemolea9571]

This is what I was gonna say! It produces like lots of regular bait every day, but maybe only a couple of magic bait every few days if that's what you put in. and maybe putting in food items speeds it up or produces more because irl the worms need food and the more nutritious the better they produce.

[@Dexef_]

I immediately remembered this video when I saw the worm bin buff in the 1.6 patch notes

[@TrabberShir]

0:25 Worm bins are extremely valuable if you are running the automation mod. Took me a minute to remember that mechanic isn't vanilla.

[@TheRationalPi]

If I'm using automate then I already have a chest next to the crab pots. Just drop a huge pile of bait in and don't worry about it for a few months. It's not technically infinite, but the video already went over how long it takes for the cost to pay off, and you aren't wasting space with ugly looking worm bins next to your crab pot factory. I would still put the one worm bin I'm forced to craft for full completion next to my crab pot chest, but I'm not going out of my way to craft more.

[@mertensiam3384]

I mean. Sure. But you can do the same with a chest full of bait anyway. It's not really valuable since it still can only give you 3 bait sometimes

[@EpsilonRosePersonal]

Does automate change how the worm bins work or something? Because I'm using that setup and it does seem to keep more crabpots supplied than 2-5 bait per day would suggest.

[@mertensiam3384]

@@EpsilonRosePersonal I don't think so. Are you using any other mods?

[@EpsilonRosePersonal]

​@@mertensiam3384 Yes, but I don't think any of them effect bait boxes. It could also just be an issue of me not paying close enough attention to them to notice the inefficiency.

[@JeantheSecond]

I only use it later in the game when those resources are plentiful simply because it’s easier to grab the bait, rather than opening the chest, counting out what you need, exiting the chest. One worm bin per 2 crab pots and dump the extra bait onto my fishing pole.

[@haunter6682]

so, no worm bin: open chest -> count out and take bait -> put in crab pots worm bin: take bait from bin -> put in crab pots -> open inventory -> put extra bait in rod -> close inventory

[@JeantheSecond]

@@haunter6682 Nah. I don’t do that. I don’t stop and put the bait on right then. I just let it collect, then do it when I have my inventory open for something else. And I end up with bait on my rod endlessly without ever really having to think about it. I do it both ways. I use a box for at least the first year or so until I’m rolling in gold bars, so I’m doing it both ways and I do find the worm bin efficient.

[@haunter6682]

@@JeantheSecond Yeah, thinking about it, I usually don't put the bait away right then either, I do it while unclogging my inventory during my morning farm routine, and anyway it only takes four keypresses, so who cares. I like my one freebie worm bin because I rarely go fishing, only if I have a quest or an achievement to complete, and the worm bin gives me a decent amount in the meantime, so I just never am in need of bait. I guess it's the rare case when the worm bin is actually optimal

[@JFMNBright]

This is why I made worm bins too! I can’t be bothered to take bait from a chest or my fishing rod and count out the amount I need. With the worm bins, I can just hold down the grab button, run past the bins, then run past the crab pots. Any extra gets deposited in the dump chest I use for crab pot items at the end of the row.

[@MdnghtEther]

Wow I actually built a few bc I was tired of having to run to willy’s or the mines for bait. Seemed a good use of my 2k hardwood. Thank you forest farm.

[@slwrabbits]

Yeah, I always have more resources than I strictly need because I play pretty slowly compared to everyone else. I'm not in this to make the most efficient, profitable farm - I'm just gonna have fun. So I have a mill and worm bins, and I only go to the desert to harvest my tapped trees. I wouldn't mind if the bin got buffed. It does seem pretty wackily high cost to build, compared to other stuff.

[@MdnghtEther]

@slwrabbits Hehe hoarding stuff is much more fun than completing the game lol. Jokes aside, I only considered using them when the cost wasn’t an issue. Having worm bins isn’t worth it unless you refuse to leave the farm often enough you forget you need to grow red cabbage for the 4th year in a row.

[@sailorofruins]

worm bin has been crafted ONCE for perfection.... trashed it once i remember it existed.

[@TakenUserMiles]

I think I got it, then just forgot about it.

[@ericlegacy8834]

I know it would be helpful in the vanilla game, I watched your video and just applied the feedback changes to the Worm Bin to my mod, Fishing Made Easy Suite v6.0 that will release alongside Stardew 1.6 :) there'll be several options for players to choose regarding material costs, how much bait it can produce, as well as an option for a chance to produce Wild Bait.

[@keythjauregui3207]

i would also change the iron for copper , not only it makes the a little more practical but also the graphics of the item are green and copper when oxidized is also green

[@evilgeniusha01]

I guess I'm one of the only people who uses the worm bin. It's a late game time saver. I put a few next to my crab pots and never need to worry about bait. And sure they take a while to pay for themselves but they do eventually.

[@bigwave1713]

But as he said, chest. And it not like Worm are expensive, your not saving much money compared to using the materials for other stuff

[@nattapakniranittikul]

I have fishing rod with me all the time in late game because I didn't have to worry much about inventory except when I dive skull cavern so my bait stay in my fishing rod and I just take it out to feed crab pot with it then put it back

[@pochaccocino]

​@@bigwave1713 idk i do the same thing as op, have the worm bins by my crab pots for easy access. i don't mine/fight bugs often enough to get bait that way, but i do fish a lot. :)

[@Chris-rt9pb]

I use worm bins in my hermit playthroughs (in which I can only leave the farm once a year) so I was ready to challenge the argument that worm bins are never useful! But the material cost and level requirement points you made are extremely fair. I like your proposed changes, I think it would make the worm bin viable even in normal playthroughs (and super helpful in certain weird niche ones!)

[@mr.magnificent7374]

I think he forgot to calculate the coal used to process the two bars.

[@critsisthinking]

It got updated!!! I KNOW you're happy, I remember this video when I saw 1.6 update.

[@FoxAntlers]

I'd actually argue that a better fix for the worm bins would be that they produce some sort of fertilizer instead of reducing the costs, since irl, that's the entire point of worm bins. Worm castings make some of the most fertile soil and is very $$$. Deluxe fertilizer is currently under-utilized in a lot of folks' Stardew farms due to the cost, so this could be a way of making that more worthwhile/accessible to folks with some amount of tweaking.

[@Hazeljv3]

You make a really good point, the worm bin would be a pretty decent early game item if it was made with way cheaper materials! By the time you get to level 8 fishing and have all the materials to craft it as it is now, you probably have more than enough bait from fishing chests/bug meat or you have more than enough gold to just buy bait from Willy...

[@robincormier9935]

My favorite use of the worm bin is to put them in-between my mushroom boxes in the mushroom cave, thus you're not going out of your way to collect them everyday unless you choose to neglect your cave entirely that day. (Of course this method isn't useful for the bat cave) While the money argument is valid for year 1, by year 2 you'll be making so much gold that Time becomes your main enemy and having those worm bins in the shroom cave ultimately save me some time since I never have to go visit Willy at the beach to buy any.

[@idunbeezasmart1]

Maybe Time is your enemy because you're spending too much of it trying to fill crab pots?

[@ZePopTart]

@@idunbeezasmart1 I cannot believe some peoples priorities of this game. If you aren’t using stardew as a crab pot collection simulator what are you even doing

[@idunbeezasmart1]

@@ZePopTart Haha! Touche!

[@gptiede]

In a stock game, the only worm bin I generally use is the one you get for free ... at some point. I don't remember what achievement/unlock gives it. But, if you use the Automate mod, one worm bin can be set up with three crab pots, one recycling machine, and one chest, and you never have to do anything to maintain the ensemble other than take resources from the chest whenever you feel like checking it.

[@polarbear345]

Hey ConcernedApe, it isn't too late to follow Salmence's advice here for 1.6 because we all want that wild bait chance since THAT WOULD BE AMAZING (thank you for bringing that to our attention as a possibility)

[@LalaRojas-jd5rc]

You could contact him and link him the video. He usually responds to his community feedback.

[@Gottaculat]

I seriously thought it would be the cookout kit. Who even uses those? As for the worm bin, how about 2 copper bars (bin looks metal and green, so oxidized copper?), 2 clay, a bag of basic fertilizer, and 5 bait as a starter population?

[@trinodot8112]

The worm bin should make either high quality bait that attracts rarer fish (happy worm?) or maybe go a composting route and produce compost to aid in farming when you feed trash into it.

[@yuhhhh.hhhh.]

I crafted all my hardwood into worm bins and now my family wont make it through the winter

[@starshapedwings3582]

So, what I'm hearing is, worm bin run??

[@gauravaaditya]

The only thing I use the worm bin for is the ✨ aesthetics ✨. They look pretty next to my designated fishing area 😂🙈

[@chaichapstick]

i'm not gonna try to make any excuses for it, i know its expensive and totally not worth it compared to other things, but i do seriously love my worm bins

[@somethingxblue]

I keep a worm bin next to my crab pots cause I kept forgetting to bring or purchase bait, I have adhd and that extra task had me going back and forth from the river / sea to my farm 20 times a week 😅😅

[@somethingxblue]

I don't always use it if I have bait from other sources or I purchase it, but it's my backup for the times when I forget about it completely

[@kesidremel9174]

I keep a chest of bait near mine, which is also good for having a place to deposit all that I caught so I keep my inventory clear. Granted sometimes I forget to put the bait back in the chest. But if I only take out some of the bait to use it isn't an issue.

[@apolloinjustices]

yesssss adhd worm bin users rise up

[@kesidremel9174]

@@apolloinjustices don't listen to the guy insulting you, you can play this game however you want. I have ADHD too. We just have to find what works best for us even if other people don't understand. Also not sure why they singled you out when there are other people here saying they use the things

[@darkcherry407]

I haaate that it's not as good as it could be. My first time playing I did so much fishing that I got the worm bin, decided to make it... and found out that it just kinda sucked. I struggled through the mines and got the resources for not one, but 4 because of how much I fished while waiting on my crops to grow

[@aristoeldesarmado]

There's a mod that makes worm bin useful: the mod basically makes chests to auto-fill and auto-gather products from machines nearby, so if you put one or two bins near to a chest, and the chest near to crab pots, the chest will fill and gather the crab pots alone everyday.

[@justlisa1599]

i love worm bins. i always have a couple near crab pots on my farm sharing space with some preserve jars for roe and a storage chest. it makes a cozy little convenient nook on the farm with easy access to bait to refill the pots and find more bait when i need it. totally quality of life for me. : )

[@jpag_grey497]

Me, that has 1/4 of a big shed with worm bins, I don't see a downside to it. Especially when I have hundreds of crab pots to fill. The money I get in return makes up for it I feel

[@cinarynroll]

how much money...

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

It's definitely bad, but I like to think of it as a public service by sticking one on the docks at the beach. Now anyone who wants to hang out and fish can have some free bait. ooh if it made wild bait instead of regular bait all the time that would be so cool. wouldn't have to change the level or ingredients then.

[@thermophile1695]

My face when Salamence forgets Topaz Ring exists.

[@JuniorDjjrMixMods]

I replayed Stardew Valley and used a lot of the version that gives deluxe baits, is this new in 1.6? Deluxe baits are much more expensive and now I have unlimited deluxe baits. I just saw that tea sapling was reduced the sell price in 1.6, so this video looks pretty outdated.

[@kurby8496]

yea it's new

[@Frau_Erdina]

If you place a gem (Amethyst, Ruby, havent tried other gems by now) in a Junimo Hut the Junimos will have its color!!! Dunno if this is a common known thing, but since I havent found a video about it I thought I should mention it. There is a reference to this in one of the books at the museum. Edit: tried a prismatic Shard and THE JUNIMOS ARE CHANGING COLORS NOW! O.o WOW!

[@morgann2938]

Honestly, even if the crafting materials stayed the same, just producing a consistent amount of bait would redeem it for me. Bait is cheap and easy to come by. If I want to be so lazy as to not walk to the beach twice a year to stock up at Willy’s, I’m fine with it being expensive to craft. No amount of materials is going to be truly “worth it” anyway.

[@darkplay5202]

To be honest "Worm bin" can be rework to "Bait bin" that give different types of Bait daily

[@Arrowdodger]

I actually always make the worm bin because, in real life, such bins are actually great for making fertilizer, even if that is not what is happening here with this one. It's just for funsies for me, since yeah, it's so comically easy to get bug meat to craft tons of bait without using this.

[@mothmansboyfriend8021]

I have the automate mod so i have complex systems of crab pots and worm bins which means that they are constantly being harvested and restocked. it's quite helpful for that.

[@UhOphelia]

I think maybe this would be useful with the Automate mod. I have my crab pots hooked up to a chest that loads the garbage into the recycler. I might eventually hook one up to my recycling center.

[@arandomidea9010]

An even better idea for the worm bin- unlock it at level 3 alongside the crab pot and have the crafting recipe be 10 wood, 1 iron, and 10 soggy newspapers/trash. Every day it produces 5 bait, unless it produces a wild bait (maybe 5% chance).

[@LilFiremaster]

Yeah, after getting the Wild Bait crafting recipe and choosing Luremaster, it pretty much eliminated the need for a worm bin. After I accidentally set off a bomb in my shed and destroyed half of my machines, I opted not to craft/replace my worm bin.

[@xRubySky]

I just love everything fishing related in SV ^^ I always have at least one worm bin even just for the aesthetic.

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

I feel like 3 iron, 50 wood, 10 fiber is good? Maybe also make it automatically refill crab pots nearby?

[@phoenix_quinn]

Using the automate mod, wormbins are one of the nicest things to craft, because I have an endless supply of crabpot fish in there. Combination with a recycling machine and chests makes it even more efficient for cloth, wood and refined quartz

[@cloudyvulpine]

i had to craft the worm bin for perfection, i think i'll just use it as decoration tbh

[@kingjames4886]

welp, worm bin got buffed and tea saplings got nerfed :P

[@ZePopTart]

Ok but absolutely nothing can beat the satisfaction of getting the exact number of bait needed for the crab pots

[@wolfydawolf1296]

One of the remixed community center bundles gives you a worm bin and if you get that early it can be an alright supplement to a crab pot fisher. Ive never bothered making one though

[@terramarc]

You do need to craft the worm bin for perfection, don’t forget that. It’s just not hard to craft by the time you’re actually going for perfection specifically

[@OlySamRock]

worm bins shine with the automate mod. set a few up with some crab pots on the beach, forget them for a while, and come back to ridiculous levels of crabby delight

[@intel_coar6844]

The worm bin does have use as a decorative item. The cookout kit is way less useful since it’s also very expensive, serves no purpose once you get the kitchen, and despawns during the night. Using a cookout kit is literally throwing away your money and resources

[@Raizearche]

4:40 bold claim when the Hopper exists. Kidding aside, yeah the worm bin is pretty indefensible. I appreciate having one for lazy and convenient bait collecting on a day to day basis saving me a trip to the beach to buy in bulk but eventually when wild bait isnt as difficult to make its definitely just a set piece on the farm

[@arrestedeffort]

Early on in my SDV playthrough, I accidentally selected Trapper (and this was long before I had access to the sewers) while trying to skip through the end-of-day screen. So in order to capitalize on this mistake by the time I hit level 10 fishing, where I would select Luremaster, I set up tons of crab pots around my farm, which is the Riverland farm. I got loads of crayfish, periwinkles, and snails, as well as tons of junk. After I unlocked the Statue of Uncertainty, I changed professions to Angler and Pirate, so it's nice having worm bins generate the bait that I need for each of my crab pots, with a little extra for my fishing rod each day. And it doesn't usually take long at all to do my routine with the crab pots, so I end up with an easy, unlimited source of sashimi, escargot, quality fertilizer, refined quartz, cloth, and coal.

[@Sirah1981]

I make two (yes, 2) worm bins per save. One is in the docks with three crab pots and a chest, and one is near my farm ponds with three crab pots, chest and 2-3 fish ponds, 5-10 preserves jars and 3-6 recyclers. I just like the handiness of having more or less the perfect amount of bait whenever I feel like going through my crab pots. Possible extra bait goes to the chest for the rare day when I get less than I need.

[@esracaglayan5495]

I use the worm bin BUT ONLY ONE. With the Automate mod, I set it next to a chest which is next to a line of crab pots. Makes it so that I don't have to worry about stocking the chest with bait.

[@invenblocker]

The Automate mod at least gives some value to Worm Bins by allowing you to connect them to your crab pot cluster and then never having to manually refill those.

[@jinga9862]

The Worm Bin is very useful if you have Automate installed. 1 worm bin for every 3 crabpots, and it makes it relatively self-sufficient

[@Sexynes]

Or connect it to a chest of up to 35964 bait for way more than 3 crabpots. According to my math, if a crabpot catches something each day, the chest can potentially be 11988x better than a wormbin. If you think about 3 crabpots, that's 3 bait per day. Thus, a chest can contain 84 bait for a month, or 336 bait for a year. 15g per day (1680g per year) or 50 fiber, 1 gold bar, 1 iron bar, and 25 hardwood for every 3 crabpots. The max size of a custom map is 31200 square tiles, and if a crabpot filled every tile, you would need 10400 worm bins or 1 chest.

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

So there's 1 use of the Work Bin that could be useful: if you play with the Automate Mod, you could use a Worm Bin to automatically fuel Crab Pots, meaning you wouldn't have to buy/craft bait anymore for them, which saves time in a day that you could be doing literally anything else other than buying bait. But not only is that modded only, but also I don't really remember the Worm Bin existing whenever I play, so its still literally useless

[@chari2107]

"You wanna know what else can produce the bait for whenever you need it? A chest full of bait." 😂😂

[@cindymello5394]

I like them with the Automate mod and the one where I can just spawn the items in and not pay for the bins--my crab pot empire, my worm bins, recycling machines, wood chippers, and deconstructors!--but even with the tons of worm bins, every so often I check them and have to chuck a few thousand bait into my automate chest

[@shadowninja6689]

Worm Bins are VERY useful if you're doing certain challenge runs, like a boycott challenge that forbids you from buying bait. And it can be handy with the automate mod as well. But yeah I still agree that it's price should be made cheaper, and I wouldn't be opposed to it becoming available sooner.

[@SirPanikalot778]

The worm bin is best in early game, using maybe only 1 or 2, just to keep your bait stock high. You get one free with the community center, and that's enough for me.

[@ImJustHeretoLurk]

Worm Bin is literally KEY to my Hermit run - since I can't leave my farm very often, I spend a LOT of time fishing on the Beach Farm. Again, since I don't leave often, the small amount of bug meat I get from the mines is MINIMAL, and GONE by day 3. Fished chests can contain Iron and Gold ores, meaning the only thing I need is Hardwood, which I got from cutting 6 billion trees and levelling. Worm Bin means I'm not stuck fishing up trash for a whole month.

[@Karthos1000]

I have a worm bin on my farm in my current play through. It's the reward for the Fish Farmer's bundle, one of the most difficult/time-consuming remixed bundles to complete. I saw no reason not to place it, and It gives me bait every day, which is nice, but I wouldn't have crafted it.

[@danielh12345]

Im one of those players who purchases the least amount of stuff from shops I can if I'm able to get it myself. Is that efficiënt? No, not at all, does it feel like the right thing to do? Yes. I don't really buy resources like bait, tackle, ores / coal, stone and wood. I get machines or farm it myself. Its fun and feels like a farm thing to do haha. The worm bin and recycling machines in my tiny farm pond really work together well with the few crab pots I have. Even though I have a chest there, thats to quick dump everything and select the same trash to put in the recycling machines. Its slightly faster that way and feels like the right thing to me. P.s. I do use sandy for deluxe speedgrow and trade with the desert trader obviously, I got those jades / ruby's from my farm production (crystallariums) / mines. That being said, yes, the materials used for the wormbins are quite a lot, suprised me too when I made some. Thanksfully I don't run a 100 crab pots or so haha.

[@cass6020]

I'm absolutely delighted to have see a 5 minute rant complete with many pieces of evidence against the worm bin, iconic Sal I have a worm bin in my current run, I guess because if I want perfection I'll have to have crafted it eventually and it'll maybe pay itself off? I don't fish often and I dislike buying bait if I don't need to, so it seemed like a meh trade off to have some on hand. It did hurt given that the farm is literally called tea and finery and is ultimately going to be very Elegant and tea centric, but...idk. I had never crafted one before lol

[@Houdini0504]

Worm bins make sense for my automate crab pot thingy. I just put a couple of bins next to a chest and a insane amount of crab pots and leave it for a couple of days. A recycling machine is also nice to have on automate next to me chest.

[@Coccinelf]

I never used the worm bin but I was ready to think even though it's too expensive to make, its trade off would be that it's more convenient than running to Willy's shop. Eh, it's like the total opposite of convenient! Like I can't imagine less convenient mechanics!

[@JadedJasantha]

Reasonable arguments, I do use worm bins because I generally don't fish on sunny days, so they generate bait for me to use when it does rain!

[@CKEternity]

Genuinely the only time i have used the worm bin is using the automate mod, with a few worm bins connected to my crab pots. Completely unnecessary but it was a use

[@koiboi7049]

getting the popup notification for this video was so funny. "The Worst Item In Stardew Valley" is it worm bins "WORM BINS"

[@cakeyeater7392]

I only ever craft one worm bin, i thought it would passively store bait, like the machine for animals does. I was sorely disappointed. I think that would be a good change, if possible. Instead if having to check it, it is just a storage container that generates bait

[@y8knsnsnzmzz]

I love fishing and I love the worm bin bc the mines can be a kind of inefficient "all day" task!

[@fishbo_uses_soap]

As a user of the Automate mod, I use a wormbin to keep my crabpots going with no interference

[@callmealx]

I use a bunch of em with automate to automate my crab pots and recycling stuff!

[@salmence100]

Automate is the one case where I see it being useful, since you don't have to check it every day

[@callmealx]

@@salmence100 Exactly! Vanilla game I never touched it, but without needing to check it, it became an easy way to get free gold

[@TheBoboTheIceMan]

But a stack or 2 of bait in the chest will do the same thing.

[@matthewgladback8905]

I use Automate and crab pots, and lots of them. I just put a big stack of cheap bait in the chest linked to my crab pots. There's no timeline where I look at that crafting recipe with any other reaction than sheer disbelief.

[@joeychandlee8139]

Honestly the worm bin is so much better in the context of automation mods imo. It’s what makes crab pots the perfect “set it and forget it” resource collector. Have 5-6 crab pots set up with 2 worm bins in the ocean and just forget about it. Come back later and you have ample materials for crab cakes and a fair chunk of refined quartz and wool (if you just throw a recycling machine in the mix)

[@tanakisoup]

The only acceptable use for worm bins are if you use the automate mod. Throw one of those bad boys next to a chest and 5 crab pots and you get infinite sashimi for the rest of time with no input. Bonus points if you tack on a recycling machine letting you now get infinite refined quartz too

[@Iosis4818]

Now that I thought about i a little ( for 2 days ) I would like to build a worm bin if it had chance to produce magic bait,so you would need it in the endgame as well when tou tried to catch the last remaining fish and you ´re in the hurry

[@Justicetom21]

Here's the single advantage you get from the worm bin: You can, without accessing a chest, immediately put bait into an empty slot in your inventory and then empty that slot. It is more inventory-space economical than carrying around bait, and faster than using a chest. But the output you get from a worm bin is inconsistent so either you have more crab pots than you can service or you have to empty the slot manually anyway

[@PolarBearBlue]

Make the worm bin an actual device for composting in game. Have it so that if you apply it to crops and they die over the season those dead crops have a chance to produce fertilizer. Also have it so that it wards off birds, making it a level appropriate upgrade to scarecrows.

[@OtakuDeju]

For all the crafting materials involved with it the worm bin certainly should provide more out of it. 5 to 15 bate a day with a 15% percent chance of wild bate and a 3% percent chance of magic bate.

[@Quintingent]

Ngl I had completely blocked from my memory that it takes gold to make. I can only assume that the material costs were decided based on its position in the level progression, rather than as an actual representation of its worth. It's honestly a bizarre item. If it were cheaper, it could pay itself back in a reasonable time. If it produced more/better bait, that could also do it. But neither is the case. It almost makes me wonder if it was maybe originally supposed to accumulate worms so that you didn't have to check it daily, which would at least make it less of a chore to use, but even then that still doesn't fix the issue of the high cost.

[@emmorton15]

The only good thing about worm bins is the 100% crafting achievement for perfection

[@schaffs2]

I made one worm bin from crafting everything in the game and I like how it, I just get a steady amount of bait each day and I rarely fish so I never run out of bait from it

[@Orowam]

It was worth building two for my run with the automate mod which makes chests operate things around it. Having a constant drip feed for bait into the chest so it could operate the crab pots in the ocean and river were nice. But without that, nah it’s not worth it

[@Boututu]

I feel the same way about the level requirement of cookout kits. You're better off upgrading your house instead of making a cookout kit for every day you need to cook. Sure, save all recipes for when you need it, you say? Well, it needs level 9 Foraging. Once again, by the time you get your level 9, your house is upgraded.

[@Ahlnie]

Here's a different buff: when you feed the worm bin a crop, it produces an amount of bait equal to the crop's sell price after (bait produced / 50) days.

[@CommandantLennon]

Mods obviously don't factor into the question of vanilla balance, but worm bins with the automate mod allow you to simply set-and-forget crab pots, as they just endlessly refill them.

[@ceepert2153]

Another way to buff the worm bin may be to give it its own type of bait. The price and level requirements can stay the same, so yes its expensive and high in the skill but you get a better bait. You cant buy or directly craft the bait so it can be quite a good chunk better. Maybe giving a quality buff to anything caught in addition to the decreased catch time of normal bait. With that there is now an actual reason to use it. You get more valuable fish but you dont get a ton of fishing attempts per day unless you wanna spend a ton of money into like 30 worm bins

[@dartimes6048]

Worm bins are underrated. Yes they are expensive, but if you are running the automate mod with crab pots and recycling machines you will never have to check your crab pots until you want to sell.

[@monicaazevedo7787]

Me having 3 worm bins that actually made me more worms I needed it for (1 stack plus 500 or sm) and completely regretting it watching the video:

[@TheRealHelvetica]

Worm bins are great for the automate mod if paired with crab pots… That is literally the only upside of worm bins.

[@EruHjoyn]

Worm bins are actually useful with the automation mod to, well, automate bait. It's not economical, but the cost is for the sake of not having to resupply an automated system.