The Worst line on television ever #2

Another trash line that I had to denounce 🤡🤡🤡
TFATWS The falcon and the winter soldier
"stop calling them terrorist"
"You've gotta do better senator"
#disney #marvel #mcu #tfatws #captainamerica #captainfalcon #captainamerica4 #wintersoldier #buckybarnes #samwilson #redhulk

[@Dimmary]

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[@SaveDareDevil-Mx]

Y do u force blind urself to the logic behind obviously deliberate & self aware lines like these?🤦U ever hated a teacher for blaming/punishing an entire class for the actions of one misguided soul? I’ma answer that for u: Yes U have. But u refuse to make the link & understand the meeting behind shit. Obviously if they wrote lines for someone calling them terrorists they know there’s a reason for people to think they all were terrorists. But no B, most of them were just peer pressured / manipulated into going along with or still supporting after the extreme actions of a misguided individual. Dawg i literally used most of Sam’s speach for one of my climate activism speeches for an earth day event i had on the day that last episode came out. (Search it up it literally released on or near april 22) The whole speach, build up, & lines around that scene were written perfectly & was exactly the motivation i needed to differentiate ourselves (a peaceful protest organization) from people like XR who keep giving politicians excuses to focus on the extreme actions of individuals within a movement rather than what that movement is actually angry at them about😤

[@Dimmary]

@@SaveDareDevil-Mx first of all the GRC was not at fault here. John Walker said that they were trying to get things back to normal little by little. These terrorist wanted that too but they wanted it the harsh way. Their cause was understandable but very stupid. How are we going to put the people that vanished back in their homes when other people live in theirs? After Carli or whatever her name is decided to kill people she made a speech and they agreed. Peer pressured or not they agreed. So terrorism it is for all of them. Now it's good to look at the reason behind the terrorist actions but this is terrible absolutely terrible and the fact that Sam actually with her makes it worse. Not only the flag smashers had already killed but they were going to kill the Senators. Not to mention kidnapping. Sam speech is a big empty speech about emotions "do better" under the assumptions that governments are bad and that they need to step up. This is absolute garbage. Not only Sam is clueless about what he's talking about but dismisses labels like refugees and terrorists. Even more stupid. Emotions again. No facts no actual help. At the end of the day nothing as changed nothing that sam wanted except that he's captain America all he said was do better and that's it. No real change. It's good if you enjoy this but imo it's still garbage.

[@Whopper222]

@@SaveDareDevil-Mx I had a seizure reading this

[@perfectroad3351]

@@Dimmary bummer

[@kennethlau8990]

It's clear that since you are a Star Trek/ DC guy, your biases are just dumb. Taking clips out of context or not acknowledging that they are intentionally showing character flaws. I can literally do the same to your favourite franchises.

[@nonamefound1382]

Journalist: "Mr Stark, how did you survive being kidnapped by terrorists?" Tony: "You have to stop calling them terrorists..."

[@Spider-Nefilo]

This

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

​@@Spider-Nefilo is Sparta

[@Ignorer_]

​@@Marvelfanatic3658 of

[@gaminginvirinch3339]

Bruh i can't breathe

[@Ignorer_]

@adam lenko I'm

[@supernovagirl5741]

The fact that he's stood there dressed like a tube of toothpaste makes it even funnier 😂🤣

[@bibaolaitan5189]

Ikr!!!..

[@hemiacetal1331]

Dressed like A-Train

[@YoloTub3]

Welp atleast it's not as bad as colgate morales

[@Nostalgia_Addict]

Lmfao

[@jasonlewis3742]

​@@hemiacetal1331Nah, A-Train looks cool.

[@noname-oq8ey]

"They would never accept Black Captian America" *flashback to Iron Man 3 where everyone was praising Rhoad's Iron Patriot*

[@greatkentuckian9032]

BuT tHaTs NoT tHe SaMe!

[@undeadcowboy1266]

@@greatkentuckian9032 yeah ain't the same cause death machine is supposed to be African American, but media try hard to force us them in a supposed white character it's not just this they try hard also to force us feminism and gay heroes suddenly out of no place

[@Normal_Boii]

Fr

[@Spider-Nefilo]

Fr lmao what the heck

[@TonyDracon]

nobody was praising iron patriot lol

[@impressedsasuke8372]

How I would've fixed the line: "Yes they're terrorists, but we shouldn't ignore why they became terrorists in the first place."

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂"Youve DONE better"

[@jeremyusreevu237]

The fact that a random commenter wrote a better line than an entire group of writers for an MCU TV show.

[@joaquinm9148]

@@jeremyusreevu237 Unbelievable

[@classyonabudget4758]

THANK YOU! It's really not that hard of a fix, and any other Marvel character- Sam included- would have said the same thing if this scene had a more competent writer. Like Steve Rogers or T'Challa or Spider-Man would refer to them as terrorists, but would still point out how they can work to prevent more people from becoming like the Flag Smashers.

[@Stormyano]

@@jeremyusreevu237because it's not about the quality of writing, it's about sending a message.

[@dipanjanghosal1662]

Homeless? Just buy a house duh..

[@TheTruth-13]

This video shows that they don’t understand anything about people. The point in not calling them Terrorist is to not be blinded by the name. That these people are doing things for a reason and it’s not random and coming out of nowhere. A reason shows that these problems can be solved and can have a solution. Calling them Terrorist is the solution to have them killed. Disregarding life and acting in the same way as them and calling yourself justified. The person who made this video is the type to cause fear and panic in the lives of others, to blind people and act as if it’s random chaos and create hate and anger in peoples minds. He would never be a leader with this kind of thinking. Seeing words instead of a complex life form with trillions of cells that acts for survival. That does things with a reason to it. A mind such as this is more dangerous to other people than Karly is. Believing what they do is justified because the other side does it. If there aren’t people out there like Sam who sees the truth about people, like Steve Rodgers, then this world would be in chaos, living lives of fear, panic, anger, and hate. Blinded to the truth. Not knowing what the right thing to do even when people are dying of hunger with poor living condition.

[@3xP90]

@@TheTruth-13 what the fuck is wrong with you? It's just a series. Not everything needs to be compared with real life

[@TheTruth-13]

@@dipanjanghosal1662 “I don’t think” that is an accurate statement. “Exactly what they are” you’re defining trillions of cells with Organs and bones, a brain and a heart. By the word Terrorist. Exactly what they are? Are you that ignorant? Do I need to knock some sense into you? You don’t think at all. Blinding yourself out of pure ignorance and hate. I see reality for what it is. Labeling people like that changes anything about them. You don’t understand the brain or the body. Or yourself. Don’t speak on this topic again. A delusional mind that acts as if he knows what he talking about when you don’t. Creating lies to create hate and anger to confuse the mind to believe something that isn’t real. You don’t know how the brain operates. You didn’t create yourself so stop acting like you know everything about yourself

[@faisalamiri541]

@@TheTruth-13 😂😂😁

[@flyingpan4158]

What would you define those actions as? Please do tell me what you’d define one who does acts such as those. You are the only delusional person I see here. What lies do you speak of. Also yes labeling people doesn’t change anything about them. You could label me a movie goer. Does that change anything fundamentally about my morals? No I don’t believe so. You know what changes something about people and their morals. The actions they commit that affect others. You are the only one I see ignorant here. Also how can you say someone doesn’t understand themselves. You’ve never met them. You don’t even know what they look like. And boy oh boy about that hate part, well if it ain’t the pot calling the kettle black. It appears in another comment you told someone to “end it.” Please elaborate on what you were telling them to end. Seems like it may be a pretty hateful thing to say to someone doesn’t it? If you wanna keep going bonkers and telling other people that you’ve never met online that they’re wrong, a liar, and a spreader of hate then be my guest. Though I think you might wanna consider going through basic education along with looking up the terms “self imagine” and “projecting.” Your thoughts on the subject matter we’re quite interesting to say the least and frighten me for what you may teach others. Good day sir.

[@Bully_who_made_goblin_Jr_cry]

Sam: You gotta do better, senator. Senator: How do we do better? Sam: idk do better.

[@blackphantom6334]

Sam be like: "if you are homeless just buy a house, duh"

[@giovannibertaina2621]

@@blackphantom6334, 😆 right?!!!

[@ohyeah2066]

#begreater

[@wingknigt6944]

Now that’s a captain America answer.

[@cupcakemcsparklebutt9051]

LmfO

[@MaskedMike]

"YOU GOTTA DO BE BETTER SENATOR!" Dude Half the population got turned into dust for 5 years, and then out of nowhere everyone came back. I think you can give him just a LITTLE bit of slack on this one

[@blartversenwaldiii]

Reminds me of how whenever a country is doing good or bad people will assume it's the government's fault when actually it was because of Thanos or some shit

[@memonson5586]

​@@blartversenwaldiii Or when everyone was afraid of COVID thanks to the media and they blamed it all on Trump

[@AmericaChavez17]

@@blartversenwaldiiiI mean it is the government’s fault. Thanos was not responsible for war, racism and all sorts of bad things. He’s a villain but he didn’t invent any of those

[@invidatauro8922]

@@AmericaChavez17 That's not government fault either though, all of those are just elements of the human condition.

[@AmericaChavez17]

@@invidatauro8922 it is though. Politicians make all this possible. Stop defending politicians, they are no better than the evil aliens in comics

[@sanalk1444]

Wanda: enslaves an entire town full of people including kids. MCU: she's misunderstood Karli: uses violence against innocents to carry out her political plans ( literal definition of terrorism) MCU: she's not a terrorist Walker: killed a terrorist who participated in murder of his best friend. MCU: he's a bad guy.

[@150_asharifadhilaha2]

I genuenly feel bad for Walker lol

[@1989nirankarsingh]

Peak M-SHE-U

[@Bully_V_007]

Walker is the best character in Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[@C_de_jupons]

M-she-U

[@christopherantonyjacob4794]

Cuz whamen got 😻 Lots of simps Lots of feminists

[@HUMAN-fq5ff]

What’s worse is that the show actually did a pretty decent job at presenting how they’d started as genuine activists but strayed into terrorism, but not acknowledging that they became terrorists who caused destruction is what ruined it. If Falcon had said,"Do you know why they became terrorists?" or "They didn’t start out as terrorists.", then this scene would’ve been much better.

[@giovannibertaina2621]

For real though

[@BrianMcDonald]

I think for the group to be building the following they had, they didn't need to adjust their strategy at all and they probably would have succeeded with a mass uprising, but it is always more convenient to the writers to just make them become cold blooded murderers so the audience knows that they must be defeated.

[@kurro6317]

I think it had something to do with COVID and reshoots, there was supposedly more from them but it just finished too abruptly

[@evanducreay6849]

Yeah I just didn't like how the scene was written and I feel like they could've done better giving him the "Inspirational Cap vibes"

[@jakecorssetti3627]

@@kurro6317 same thing I was thinking

[@sohammangle1100]

If the writers wanted sam to look stupid i’d say they did a really good job

[@sarov7658]

All that's on their mind was showcasing black ppl they forgot shit

[@damienrichards9743]

Don't forget act and sound stupid too. Cringe throughout the whole experience when i watched it. Much love and respect.

[@VNM-Venom252]

Sam: You’ve gotta do better writers. Write me a better speech.

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

Yea Sam got really fucked over from these writers

[@joet8862]

For a man who is so supposedly self aware of why movies suck now, I don’t get how Anthony Mackie can read a script which shits on a character he’s played for nearly a decade, makes him look stupid and naive and think “yep nothing wrong here”

[@SourRobo8364]

I love how Wakanda is never called out for breaking international rules or helping the world in times of respurce crisis.

[@guillesuperior]

Internacional rules that they pushed to create in the first place lol

[@Wolffman109]

Their interference in John's story reminds me of a Scarlet Witch quote: "You break the rules and become a hero. I do it, I become the enemy. That doesn't seem fair."

[@jasonlewis3742]

​@@Wolffman109That quote was so dumb. Like, Strange broke the rules to save the universe from Thanos. Wanda imprisoned thousands of people because she was a bit sad.

[@vanillabatcave5677]

John Walker: Does Black Ops on other countries Hero: Evil Dora Millaje: Does Black Ops in other countries Writers: Yaasss

[@TipoIrritable]

@@jasonlewis3742She had reasons tho. Vision was the only one left for her

[@toasted2807]

imagine having a family member who died in that explosion and this mf comes in with the “ackshually they’re not terrorists” line lmao

[@JONPIAASU98]

“You gotta stop calling them terrorists.” *LITERALLY MEETS THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF TERRORISM*

[@RainbowLegion]

Only one went to far

[@commandershepard9601]

Propaganda to change public opinion on the 3 months of Burning Looting and Murder by the terrorists known as BLM, what did the news say about them? Fiery but mostly peaceful?

[@patrickmason7466]

@@commandershepard9601 if you only payed attention to that, you have no place to speak on the actions of the BLM movement. And the point went over your head.

[@keijijohnson9754]

@@patrickmason7466 That movement was some BS in itself. Even a black man with some sense can see that!

[@patrickmason7466]

@@keijijohnson9754 No it wasn’t. It would take an extremely insensitive, ignorant and uneducated individual to say such a movement was BS.

[@stevetrail2307]

Carly was easily the worst MCU villain ever.

[@aza5871]

Even worse than malekith

[@waffledeeez]

Imo the worst mcu character so far. Either her or sprite from eternals

[@DannyPhantom992]

Not just Worst villain, worst character in the entire MCU. There are background actors and actresses that are better than her. Her acting was terrible, the character herself was awful and the writers sure as hell added to how terrible she was. Probably the worst Marvel show to be released yet but I’d put money on Ms Marvel being worse tbh

[@DEFxRECON]

“Oi I’m bri’ish das me whole character innit”

[@RhineStone46]

@@waffledeeez at least Sprite’s motivations were clear for the most part. The writers couldn’t decide to make Karli a sympathetic villain or not and if they were going for sympathetic villain they failed miserably

[@sonicinfinity1871]

I can’t believe those terrorists destroyed the Twin Towers! Sam: You gotta stop calling them terrorists.

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Aakash.Singh1]

Bro stop. LoL

[@YoungOneYT]

You have to call them Mossad agents

[@joselopez6990]

Sam would be terrified by Wesley Snipes Blade

[@samirraza9069]

Yeah, we should stop calling them terrorists, cus they officially go by CIA

[@Peter-rt3fl]

After watching Wandavision I realized the moral values that the MCU wants to transmit are messed up.

[@milesrichardson6022]

All of the younglings are gonna to have a messed up view of this world...

[@jasonlewis3742]

Anakin will make short work of them.

[@theviolater9231]

Wandavision was great no clue what your talking about, that and Loki are the only two good things made by marvel in the last couple years

[@jasonlewis3742]

@@theviolater9231 He's not talking about the quality of the show. He's talking of the morals. And yes. The morals are all fucked up. Monica Rambeau gaslighting everyone into thinking Wanda isn't the villain. Sure she imprisoned thousands of people and put them through mental torture but if she didn't put up a quarantine it could have been thousands more? It's all kinds of fucked up. The fact that they even have to make the SWORD guy a mustache twirling villain at the end just so you have someone to root against who isn't Wanda. Yeah, suddenly the guy who's been making the most sense just snaps and decides to shoot two imaginary children?

[@theviolater9231]

@@jasonlewis3742 wasn’t the other bad witch kinda fucking with her though, like I don’t think she’s meant to be a hero in the show marvel makes her a villain in future movies

[@thetf8142]

Keep in mind that this show said Bucky had a “privileged life”the same guy who was brainwashed and used as a weapon for hydra.💀

[@gabeitches87]

He pretty much didn't even get to have a life considering he was captured by Hydra when he was around his early 20s (I think) and was imprisoned, tortured, and brainwashed into being an assassin for them for like the next 60 years or something. Lol Wow, I sure wish everyone got to have that privilege!!

[@blackirontarkus3156]

Imagine calling a WW2 vet privileged💀 Great storytelling MCU!

[@SuperChunk19]

I refuse to believe that the writers are that oblivious

[@Reginald425]

The issue with presenting real, everyday struggles through new characters in the MCU is that, whilst their struggles may be bad, and in the real world some other people would be privileged relative to them, the MCU has to compare their struggles with pre-existing characters that have had years of backstory developing extreme trauma and difficulties, so things like Sam being presented as having a tougher life than the literal slave Bucky or presenting She Hulk as struggling infinitely more than Bruce Banner (who had also been a slave for years in Ragnarok, not knowing how many murders he committed) doesn’t work very well.

[@blackirontarkus3156]

@@Reginald425 dude, no one is privileged. Even if there are people that fit that label, what does it matter? We’re all humans at the end of the day. If we want better lives, it’s up to us to make that happen. Blaming and shaming others does nothing but create hostility and/or apathy.

[@NyQuiiLx]

I liked this show, and even I couldn’t believe how stupid things got at the end. Carly was well past the point of redemption, but the writers tried to justify her murders and failed miserably.

[@larry2281]

I liked this show but it peaked at John Walker going bad and killing a guy and just fell off after. Probably the most boring season finale I’ve seen in awhile. MCU formula at its finest. Don’t know why they tried justifying Wanda and Carly.

[@bl1neoner370]

They always do that, and then Punisher has to come kill them cause it's taking everyone else too long

[@sndman5499]

They tried really hard to make us feel for her, but every chapter i hated her even more... So I guess i felt something

[@NyQuiiLx]

@@sndman5499 I could never feel for Carly. For one, her mission is beyond stupid. Becoming a terrorist because you like things better after the snap? What exactly do the heroes and villains of the show expect to happen when half the population comes back? Are politicians supposed magically figure out how to adjust to all those people coming back to life? There’s actually ground work for the show to be top tier, but the villains tank the show, and Anthony Mackie earned his place as Cap, but that ending for horrible now that I’ve had a long time to reflect on it.

[@larry2281]

@@NyQuiiLx thé finale was just god awful. Like I said the show peaked at John Walker going bad and fell off. You could have watched the last episode of the show and could have summarized the whole series. That’s how bad it was. I just remember 15 mins of action and then the rest of the episode was just talking about nonsense and trying to justify terrorism and Carly. Great series.

[@cynicalip]

For a good minute, I thought he was A-Train and not Falcon, lol

[@staufackar2135]

"You have to stop calling them terrorists" Them: *Literally committing acts of terrorism*

[@sauce8277]

Writer: “so what should we do then?” Me: “Do. Better.” 😂😂

[@RM-cn8pw]

Thank you for admitting you don’t understand the show

[@sauce8277]

@@RM-cn8pw What was your take on the show? What things about it did you especially like? You seem to have some specific things you really liked about it that put it in par with other stuff.

[@mrmeowsermoney]

@@RM-cn8pw are you just going comment to comment to bash people who didn't like that line?

[@vegaobscurax23]

🤣😂😂

[@sauce8277]

@@mrmeowsermoney Listen. If your going to reply to heated comments of young people who simply need more life experience…..I’m gunna need you, Sir, to *DO. BETTER* 😂

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

“Stop calling them the T-word Senator, that’s bullying”

[@Dimmary]

Sam basically

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

you again.

[@kotarofuuma5608]

300k subs only from commenting. What a Legend. The real youtube enjoyer

[@probablythelastmanonclubpe2188]

🤓

[@sofarsogod]

Ah, shit the "T" word, how racist of you!

[@gehrig4630]

It's astounding how Karli was so objectively morally evil and the writers of this show actually tried to portray her as an anti-hero in the end.

[@HarshDude126]

There is no such thing as objective evil. Evil is a subjective concept. It's merely your opinion that she was evil. To many, she wasn't.

[@gehrig4630]

@@HarshDude126 No? Morality IS objective. If it wasn't, we would have no basis for any laws as a race. Killing innocent people in the way she did is unjustifiable. If you ACTUALLY sympathized with her, you are a monstrous human being with a seriously fucked up mind.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

@@HarshDude126 killing innocent people is objectively evil.

[@BigBrother703]

@@HarshDude126Nope. Murdering innocent people is evil, objectively.

[@Empenguin]

​@@HarshDude126You have a really disturbing moral compass

[@jaspreetmaan121]

Marvel: These writers only set us back a bit You have to stop calling them writers. You gotta do better marvel, you gotta step up

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

That line has the same energy as “fuel prices are too expensive for me” “well buy an electric car you dumbass”.

[@franktoth1272]

Couldn't have said it better.

[@CHRISTALGIA]

I love this comment omg😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheMitchZone]

I love your comment AND your name! 😄🤙❤

[@pleyGRN]

Put the rest of the video

[@TheTruth-13]

@@pleyGRN only the weak minded such as yourself label people to ignore that they’re people. Listening to definitions as if they are fact. Someone creates definitions, and the weak minded listen to them as if that’s what it is. Labeling others to invoke fear, panic, hate, anger, and confusion. Instead of handling the situation with a clear mind and without clouded judgment to deal with what’s happening. Something Captain America does. Steve Rodgers and Sam. It’s Why Steve Rodgers wasn’t corrupted by the serum. He wasn’t filled with fear, panic, hate, anger, and confusion, he was worthy with nothing clouding his judgment. It’s clear none of you understand the Captain America Character or why Steve Rodgers is worthy. You would all be corrupted by the serum. With your hate, anger, fear, and confusion. Continue to label and cloud your minds. And corrupt yourself even further in the process

[@Gavin-mr1zs]

Falcon: Bucky you are priveleged so u will never understand. Previously: *Bucky goes through actual slavery for like 70 smthn years and is forced to kill people while being concious but unable to control his body*

[@Minetic]

Yeah Marvel kind of lost their sense after Endgame.

[@Istayton95]

There’s that brainwashed Cold War assassin privilege for ya

[@smile4me314]

Bucky has more common with slavery than Falcon himself 💀💀💀💀

[@piyanath1066]

Black people think they are biggest victim in the world😮‍💨😮‍💨they love to play victim card in every situation

[@tumultoustortellini]

And that's not even mentioning the fact he grew up in the great depression, and had to fight in world war 2.

[@brondermody3409]

I can see where The Boys got their A-train satire from...

[@jlupus8804]

That “you gotta do better” line gets more embarrassing when you realize he was with Steve for years and even debated politics pretty well during Captain America 3, YET he doesn’t know how to give helpful input. All he knows how to do now is complain. You would think a therapist of all people would know better, but NOPE!

[@cara-seyun]

They absolutely killed his character

[@MX778]

He gave helpful input, you just ignored it

[@fandomking8939]

​@@MX778do better isn't helpful, it's just something that makes Sam and those like him feel morally superior.

[@MX778]

@@fandomking8939 not morally superior, just morally coherent. the point he was making is the senator could've done a lot more to prevent this from happening, but he chose to ignore and essentially sweep it under the wrong by calling them "terrorists". While it may be true that they are, the politicians failed to acknowledge *why* they did it, which was in the senator's power to change.

[@WanderTheNomad]

​@@MX778You already did better than Sam with your comment 😂

[@aza5871]

Wanda: i enslaved a town for my own entertainment Karli: i bombed a building full of innocent Disney: yeah they seemed like good people

[@grimlockbat3954]

John Walker: *does nothing* Disney: He's a threat.

[@lagrosseroue5618]

@@grimlockbat3954 More like: John Walker: Participed to many conflict in the army and gained medal of honour, got the CP shield and become the new one because the government told you to and thought you were best man to enrole the job, try to sympathize with Avengers and kill a terrorist who just participate to the murder of many people including your bestfriend who accompanied you all the way. Disney: Yeah he is definitely a threat to ours heros

[@aza5871]

@Moon Knight "they don't know how much you sacrificed"

[@spinosaurusstriker]

@Moon Knight the show is trying to make them seem as víctims of something they had all the responsability.

[@thegoodhunter3707]

@@aza5871 tbf it is a whole lot less apparent in wandavision than it is in this show. Going forward, that line from Monica can easily be retconned into her just being a supportive friend, or someone trying to keep a very clearly mentally unstable superhero calm (which I think is the better option). Not to mention Wanda getting away with horrible shit does have some history in the comics. Falcon and the Winter Soldier on the other hand has no excuse what so ever.

[@Conici_AU]

“Y’ALL GOTTA DO BETTER FR FR” [flies away] What an inspirational scene

[@FeministCatwoman]

In order to get humane treatment, you just need to ask the politicians NICELY!!

[@GRasputin91]

​@@FeministCatwoman fukkin Steve Rogers should've just had an honest heart to heart with Hitler and Red Skull. New Captain America knows best

[@amansinghrollno-7167]

Fr fr😂

[@jasonlewis3742]

You need to educate yourself. I'm not going to do the work for you. Check your privilege

[@juiceboxinc.2745]

LMAOOOO☠️

[@faisfaizal5194]

"You gotta do better" -Captain Twitter

[@danielsan9850]

The show was good until the end. Sam Wilson treating the villain as some kind of martyr was beyond stupid.

[@Yougotcaged102]

Wow, Falcon woke up and chose to speak. It wasn't facts, but he definitely said words that came out of his mouth

[@KapitanKaos]

Definitely one of the shows of all time

[@r.8902]

nobody was moved but boy did they listen

[@romilrh]

I still think the worst line in television is in WandaVision when Monica tells Wanda, "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them." Absolutely laughable

[@mengoinggodsway9024]

Don't forget how they completely brushed Wanda's murders as the Scarlet Witch off, both in their main world and in others, and treated it as comedy. Not to mention the property damage and the people injured or psychologically damaged for life.

[@fansee1368]

Multiverse of Madness did such a better job with Wanda, not gonna lie. At least they let her be an actual villain for most of the film without being so preachy about it. That arc should've started a lot earlier, but at least they didn't fuck it up twice lmao

[@ivandekad7249]

They really don’t understand that you can’t just look at the audience and say “this person is good. This person is bad.” Especially when there is a VERY clear distinction between their actions and their words.

[@TheBlackThorneKnight]

How about Iris West telling Barry Allen that "we are the flash"? XD

[@JBoxy7]

That's number 1

[@seanlowrey6371]

Weren’t they terrorizing because they were angry that they got booted out of other people’s homes who returned after the blip? Homes that never belonged to them in the first place? I’d be grateful I had somewhere to live, likely for free, for 5 years straight. The entitlement of the writers really shows through in their characters.

[@khfan4life365]

What also pisses me off is that they had the nerve to say Bucky was privileged. Yeah, because getting kidnapped, tortured, and brainwashed by Hydra/Russians to be their supersoldier slave is totally a life of privilege. Bucky would know more about slavery than Sam would.

[@peterparker9954]

True....the worst tv show in recent times I felt like this show was made by Black Lives Matter rioters

[@C_E_0]

The stupid rebuttal against your argument is that all that stuff that happened to Bucky was because of misfortune; if it were to happen to Sam, it would be because hes black...because everything they dont like is racist. Leftist logic is fcking nuts

[@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551]

Fr man. This show was trying too hard with the political stuff. It was fine for the most part. But scenes like when they told Bucky he was privileged and like the ones here are just stupid. Bucky was literally trapped in his mind when he was a hydra agent and suffered a lot. And Carly committed terrorist acts by killing unarmed cops and even innocents. This show had its moments but damn it was a little frustrating watching it

[@cristela4034]

Yeah, Sam was being all emo cause "they will never accept a black Captain America, and look what they did to Isaiah" and yet he kept mistreating Bucky who was an actual slave, guess it doesn't count cause he's white.

[@shawklan27]

@@cristela4034 word

[@chadwickreno8499]

_"Mostly peaceful terrorism."_ trust me bro Srs

[@brandenmarcum430]

*Stealing TVs and burning cars* “Mostly peaceful…” *Gas station explodes behind them* “…protests.”

[@ayushsrivastava1672]

Why does this always crack me up😂😂

[@slay3rgamingyt]

Average liberal when the subject is about islamists.

[@rafael502]

That would legit be a CNN headline nowadays

[@veritasvanburen_]

LMFAOOOOOOO

[@harrybaldino8955]

You can't tell me that if someone killed Steve right infront of them they wouldn't have killed the dude like John did.

[@gabrijelaziza9768]

Same goes for steve if lest say bucky died infront of him

[@harrybaldino8955]

@@gabrijelaziza9768 exactly imagine what he would have done to Tony if he killed Bucky

[@joscar062]

​@@harrybaldino8955 Steve would still get killed And they say iron man was holding back 😂😂😂😂😂

[@harrybaldino8955]

@@joscar062 ..... I know I said if someone killed steve.....

[@Istayton95]

The worst attempt at a sympathetic villain ever. She had no reservations against killing innocent people but I should feel bad for her because she’s homeless?

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

"You know what you're right"😅

[@huntercool2232]

Falcon: “You have to stop calling them terrorists.” Senator: “Then what are we supposed to call them?! They blew up a building and murdered multiple innocent people!” Falcon: “Well-“ **Long Pause** “Terrorists..” Senator: “Exactly.”

[@thembanitheone]

Well technically we only ever saw Karli murdering people in the name of the Flag Smashers. The rest were only shown standing around in a circle doing that "One world one people" thing or showing off their cool knife tricks to Bucky (I guess they must be huge Winter Soldier fans). We saw one guy throw a cop around and stomp on Torres in the first episode but that makes him a ruffian at worst. So strictly speaking out of say 20 flagsmashers 1 of them is a terrorist tried and true. I'd give Sam the benefit of the doubt since we never see much terrorism from most of them.

[@KILLERDUDE5023]

@@thembanitheone Yes only Karli.... the leader of the flag smashers.... Let me give you a explanation which sums up all the actions of the flag smashers in this show. You form an organization because you dislike the government, thus you steal super soldier serum from a criminal scientist to make your group stronger to fight said government, you as the leader have killed multiple innocent individuals and blew up a building because you believe this is the only way the government will understand. While you did all previous actions your members all are complacent to the actions you have commited and still loyally follow you. Yeah not many redeeming qualities ngl.

[@medalgear654]

this show really made me root for the senator more than Falcon.

[@ermanbumaguin8063]

@@thembanitheone are you a special needs person? Or just not so bright in the head?

[@MikeBree]

No not really 🙄 It was only just one person behind that

[@hunterkiller1440]

When Flagsmasher dies. Marvel's expectations of audience: Oh no. New Cap bad guy. Audience: Good riddance.

[@TheTruth-13]

Hateful people who think there hate is justified, more of a danger to the world than Karly is

[@owyemen9367]

@@TheTruth-13 so karly is worse than Karly, got it

[@TheTruth-13]

@@owyemen9367 to complex for a child mind to understand.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

2 big brain ed people up here be like (no, the emperor is not naked, he is just wearing really fine clothes that only intelligent people understand)

[@TheTruth-13]

@@spinosaurusstriker Terrorist in 9/11 killed Under 3,000 people. The hate from that lead to over 1.6 million deaths of Muslims. The Jews were wealthy people. While most Germans were poor after WW1 The Hate for them lead to 6 million deaths of Jewish people. Hate is more dangerous than Terrorist. Hate is more dangerous than dangerous people. When will you understand this? How many incidents born from hate will there have to be for you to understand this. As you continue to ignore your own hate like you don’t add to the equation as it builds up to eventual cause death. Your hate plays a part no matter what you think

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

Bucky should've been Captain America

[@PauloJrchannel]

There shouldn't have even been another Captain America, they should just have stayed as the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

[@supercalifragilisticex]

Nah, the writers and producers should have done better writing Sam as captain america. Using Sam for a cheap political story-line is what ruined it.

[@wildkeith]

I thought this was A-Train from The Boys at first.

[@356MONKEYMAN]

Sam would be the kind of guy to say "Thanos did nothing wrong."

[@Miss-Nadia]

He is very out of character in this series, don't take it as canon.

[@johnvenz6489]

I agree sams character was painfully off in this series

[@dubstershiv5330]

Yes, he would say thanos's way was wrong but his intention was genuine. So don't call him a villain. 😑😑😏 So much foolishness

[@arachnoman7421]

@@johnvenz6489 Yeah, he was a asshole with John, when the REAL Sam would notice that John is having trauma for the war and for the death of his friend, he would help him with that because that's what he DO

[@bhnjmk8898]

bro thanos did nothing wrong he probably listened to carti

[@kingkongchief1177]

This scene alone shows how The MCU went from quality to quantity.

[@Mr_Mistah]

I remember rewatching Daredevil season 1 and thinking "what happened?" We will NEVER have a Marvel TV show of that quality ever again

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

​​@@Mr_Mistah because Disney is making them thoughtlessly on mass.

[@Football__is__life-k]

​@@Mr_Mistah because Disney is now sucking 😡😡 Daredevil>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any series

[@mycricketingworld5328]

​@@Mr_Mistah Daredevil is the best Marvel thing I have watched, but ironically it wasn't even a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[@Football__is__life-k]

@@mycricketingworld5328 yeah and ironically Shit Marvel and Shit hulk is a part of our beloved MCU

[@EddieHenderson92]

It really felt like this show was written by rich gen-Z kids that don't work and daddy is paying for them to take a gender studies class.

[@Mets4Barth68]

The irony being that in reality it was lazily crafted by millenials at the behest of billionaire baby boomers who just do what the gen X marketing people tell them will make the wall street boyz happy

[@chrisnotpratt1903]

I don't see what gender studies have to do with bad writing

[@user-eo5sn9yt1u]

@@chrisnotpratt1903they really don’t, it’s just an archetype that’s he going off of.

[@AntiGod46]

Exactly

[@abraham2172]

What does gender studies have to do with anything? Lmao

[@bottleofgreed4415]

Also remember, these terrorists are doing this because they don't want to return the items of the snap victims

[@mediocreman5828]

It was the same with scarlet witch, even when she took the town hostage and traumatized them, they still showed her to be the most suffering in the show and ignoring the pain of rest of the people like wtf.

[@aza5871]

@s her grief through enslaving a town,

[@misterwizardman4309]

Her grief of her robotic dildo dying…and she justifies this by brainwashing and enslaving a whole town full of innocent people to play house with

[@giovannibertaina2621]

For real though.

[@Miss-Nadia]

@tired you are part of the problem

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

I mean really only rambeau (or however you spell her name) had that problem none of the other characters babied Wanda and was like “oh don’t worry we know you’re enslaving them because you’re feeling bad you’re still a good person”

[@nathansmith8310]

It's funny how Zemo and John walker were the 2 characters I consistently liked through this show

[@JustapErson]

They were actually interesting. Everyone hated John Walker because he was a white man, that could have been an interesting topic for the show to discuss. But no, let's randomly have police show up out of nowhere to arrest a black man and be super polite to the white man. That's far more interesting.

[@alexman378]

It’s funny how that reveals a lot about the writers. The guy who doesn’t want random people becoming superpowered and terrorizing the world, who’s entire family and country were decimated for it, and another guy who was sent with nothing to take down superhero terrorists, managed to get one of them for killing his friend and resisting arrest, those are the villains. It’s insightful.

[@alexman378]

@@JustapErson Yeah, because that’s exactly what happens… 🤦‍♂️

[@turnupthesun81]

I agree. They even made Bucky into a useless lackey. That guy could have wiped the floor with everyone in this show but I don’t remember him doing a damn thing other than wearing a leather coat and following Sam around.

[@Onaterdem]

​@@turnupthesun81(Necro, sorry) He looked damn cool while doing that, though. First 3-4 episodes absolutely nailed the cool factor.

[@8johh]

“you gotta do better senator”

[@Fluke2Win]

Hamas apologists, 2023 (Colorized)

[@kafukwamekemeh]

Okay genocide supporter

[@thesuperiorhobgoblin9048]

Remember when Carly threatened Sam's family including his sisters kids and he still thought she was just a kid who needed help

[@r.jguerra5526]

I was so frustrated at that scene, like, at least in Ant Man and the Wasp, the villains had moral to never go after Scott's daughter, I hated how they always made her look like a good person in spite of everything she did.

[@bellag4316]

@@r.jguerra5526 i knoww i loved that scene in ant man and the wasp it’s so iconic

[@emberfist8347]

@@r.jguerra5526 Well Ghost did consider it. But Bill gave her a rightful verbal smackdown for that.

[@KapitanKaos]

He is what people who haven't seen Steven Universe think Steven is like (I think, I haven't seen the show)

[@toasted2807]

iCarly?

[@stinkynacho2362]

The sad thing is, this is a far cry from the character Sam Wilson that we’ve all come to know and love since Captain America: The Winter Solider. That Sam that they created in all of the MCU up until this TV show would have NEVER said anything as brain dead as he did in this last episode. It’s so sad

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

If these guys were Skrulls except Zemo and Walker

[@kleinkaufman8940]

Sam Wilson barely had any writing before this.

[@enderzebak2863]

@@kleinkaufman8940 yet had more charisma and character developement than this.. oh man the irony

[@kleinkaufman8940]

@@enderzebak2863 charisma?debatable ( I wouldnt call saying "on your left" in 1 movie charisma) and development? Thats entirely wrong. I saw Sam Wilson go from being a less than a sidekick to full hero in the series, so no.

[@enderzebak2863]

@@kleinkaufman8940 You just have poor taste in characters

[@loganblackburn2427]

As someone who hasn’t seen an MCU movie since endgame, I legit thought that was A Train. My small brain needed a minute to realize what this actually was.

[@Dhruv-yu2jo]

I thought he was A-train

[@356MONKEYMAN]

"You have no idea how complicated this situation is." "You know what? You're right. I got way in over my head over matters I don't understand. Sorry, Senator." *Credits*

[@urbnctrl]

Yeah except that he does.

[@maxximusprime2970]

@@urbnctrl and his solution is "lol do better" This is like telling someone who can't afford gas due to rising prices to buy an electric car instead

[@jooyoungkang3858]

@@maxximusprime2970 hey wait a minute…

[@3Guys1Video]

LOL

[@ohnobro1424]

I hate how hard they tried to make us feel bad for such an unlikeable character

[@ohnobro1424]

@Layne Staley completely agreed. I was only on the John Walker hate train for the memes. Looking back they honestly did him dirty.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

​@Layne Staley he wasn't an Avenger. I agree with everything else you're saying tho

[@joscar062]

​@@Marvelfanatic3658 Part of the dark avengers now

[@tropiccheekss]

@laynestaley4957 avenging isn't revenging and he was always unhinged, either way killing something with cap's shield isn't captain-america like at all

[@lorddarkstorm1354]

@@tropiccheekss Bruh, Steve has killed plenty with his shield lol. Granted they were Nazis, but still.

[@cald1421]

It’s disturbing. The writers for MCU are the same people who are pro Hamas right now

[@itaiharshoshanim-ib6kp]

Literally.

[@ChisomagaIhezie]

Sabra is in Captain America 4 guys.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Yeah Sam, wearing a red white and blue halloween costume with a big star on it doesn't suddenly mean you speak for everyone, make you right or smart.

[@bighand1530]

I prefer Steve Rogers.

[@j.jonahjameson1164]

Weirdly enough, Sam was a better character BEFORE the TV Show lmao. - Actually Funny - Has good relationships with other Super-characters - Knows who's the real bad guy in a situation.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@j.jonahjameson1164 Also didn't care about race or shit that doesn't mean anything.

[@vak.o]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105 wait wdym?

[@bigwetsalmon1]

@@bighand1530 I even prefer John Walker!

[@JustThings1992]

If Sam thinks they are not terrorists then he doesn't deserve to be the Captain America

[@mau4604]

For real. Imagine what he’ll call the next big threat the MCU faces in the coming years. He keeps trying to do the ‘sympathize’ act and he’ll get disintegrated (which at this point, wouldn’t seem like such a bad idea)

[@rahulradhakrishnan5619]

Cmon, Bucky was also misguided and killed several people including blowing up the UN and killing TChakka but Cap still sided with him coz he knew he was brainwashed. Bucky did the same thing, Karli Morgenthau was also indoctrinated

[@user-oi5fc7lm8j]

@@rahulradhakrishnan5619 exactly

[@dylansharp8471]

@@user-oi5fc7lm8j Huh?

[@RamenxXxNoodles]

You gotta be smoking some high quality boof, The entire civil war plot was because captain america was trying to save a terrorist that he believed deserved to be saved.

[@vishwaks5213]

I would never ever consider this guy as captain America

[@thatperformer3879]

And that’s the point, this is the communist subversion of everything you care about, first beginning with an American icon.

[@raynarksatriawibowo6688]

The worst part is they're criminalizing walker for doing his job apprehending a terrorist

[@winstonthedino1909]

🤣 I thought I was the only one who found that line really stupid.

[@derp.crapcrackers]

Yea you believe that

[@eradict]

Ryan George roasted tf out of this show lmao

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@eradict who's that

[@bivutiv.barman5029]

Every line was stupid in that last episode

[@eradict]

@@Marvelfanatic3658 you're subbed to him

[@sommit5284]

John walker: *do his best* Kid: he is bad Flag smasher: *kill people* Kid: they are fine

[@joshke335]

@Layne Staley By all accounts he didn't do anything wrong, he may have executed him after disarming, but he was still dangerous. It's not something Captain America wouldn't do, and in fact he did many times.

[@emberfist8347]

@Layne Staley I thought the Avengers wasn't under Military supervision?

[@wes5619]

Almost mirrors how they don't want Hamas called terrorists today while they do far worse.

[@lispotomus7438]

You forgot to mention the part where the new black Captain America ridicles a Frenchman for being French while fighting him. If French people were black we'd call that racism.

[@WALID972]

When that happen in the first épisode ?

[@Ben92-z80]

What ironic bigotry.

[@AdamNicholls-vu1ko]

Le moron ​@@Ben92-z80

[@HankingMySchrader]

The show should’ve been titles “2020 social justice:the series”. The scene where Sam & Bucky are confronted by cops (who reveal themselves to be there because Bucky violated his agreement and are there to detain him) who try and arrest Sam for no reason is so forced in

[@JustapErson]

That arresting scene was probably the worst scene of the show for me. People acting like it's realistic is so ridiculous. Depressing how delusional people can be nowadays.

[@TheShanicpower]

@@JustapErsonSo unrealistic, the cop didn’t even shoot a dog first

[@silverysnowfox]

This was one of the worst shows I've watched. This "speech" was laughable! He tells a group of people almost killed by terrorists not to call them terrorists. Then after the politician explains how complex and difficult it was to deal with half the world returning (a very interesting issue tbh), Sam says "just do better". Bitch, do better? That's the most useless statement in superhero history.

[@Mr_Mistah]

I mean imagine if Spiderman said something like that to New Yorkers after a terrorist attack. "You gotta do better!" I don't see how anyone can defend this in good faith

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok

[@egrassa1480]

That's how twitter users talk "you should do better"

[@adaman.shr.3538]

@@Mr_Mistah they will kill him.... Actually they will kill him regardless

[@RijaMo]

Hey at least the suit looks cool.

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

Ironic how the first on-screen black character in a position of major influence and power openly supports terrorism, I wonder how black people feel about this.

[@loffeey9770]

She killed many people... And walkers friend was one of them... Idk how are people so foolish to say that it's not justified... If your friend is killed infront of u what tf would u do... At that moment Bucky and San were just standing there and did nothing but started chasing walker instead of Karli..

[@sotruem8]

John Walker killing the person who helped murder his bestfriend : Enemy of the states. The girl who bombed a building and wont stop at nothing : Peace activist

[@Cheeselord83]

It's called social programming disguised as entertainment.

[@kevo5133]

What’s sad is that it had a pretty solid message, but they just executed it very poorly. At first I was fine with the lines, but looking back it really was just a yikes. Sam could’ve easily just admitted that the Flag Smashers were terrorists but started out as people trying to help and had good intentions, he could’ve admitted he doesn’t know a good solution either, but would rather work together to find one instead of letting those in charge decide for themselves without taking into account of those who will be affected. It would’ve been better for Sam to say that the system is flawed, that the world is flawed, but that’s exactly why we have to work together and look after each other in order to make things better, less flawed at least. Because if we don’t, people like the Flag Smashers will resort to going to the lengths they went to force change. I mean I’m not much of a good writer either, but I’d say that’s better than just “Do better senator”

[@Dimmary]

I wholeheartedly agree

[@giovannibertaina2621]

Right? I mean it was just “do better” followed by some cathartic platitudes that in the end didn’t give a real answer. What’s too bad is the show had legit good moments, but this part just lost me.

[@savestate6360]

Can someone please hire this guy, I believe he'll make a better Marvel series than whoever they hired.

[@yahmicah4294]

I like that he explained how the flags Asher’s were a reaction to the system. I think he was partially inspired by Vision from when he gave them his equation on why trouble arises (invasions, Rogue AI, etc.. because of the presence of such a powerful force having come together (Avengers). He used this equation well but the other way with the case of Displaced refugees and UN not accommodating them being left in the wake of the blip.

[@Excalibur01]

The real problem is we want comic book shows, but we got hyper realism. Sometimes villains need to be villains not profound and justified.

[@michaelshell8897]

I really wanted to sympathise with Carly: she lost her parent figure, she's struggling to survive in an unjust world, and her intentions were good. But it doesn't change the fact, that she and her gang murdered innocent people! If this is not terrorism, then I am Mickey Mouse

[@dannerhoinowski9520]

a Last Crusade reference, a fellow man of culture I see

[@Radman1889]

*Sees Phase 4* You gotta do better, Disney

[@ebowden1168]

The bias of the writers was so blatantly obvious in this show, Walker is villainized the whole time even though he was a war hero who took on the mantle of ca with no super powers, and his only mistake was going too far and killing a terrorist that had just killed his bestfriend(also the avengers are shown killing terrorists and mercenaries multiple times throughout the movie), then you have Carly who is treated as a tragic character even though she literally murders innocent people to further her political vision(literally the definition of terrorism). They’re actually gonna ruin Mackies captain America

[@TitusCastiglione1503]

I think the issue with Walker was that he killed a man who was trying to surrender and even pleading for his life. Walker’s killing was perhaps understandable, but not honorable, moral or legal.

[@ebowden1168]

@@TitusCastiglione1503 I mean if you assist in killing a good man through your actions as a terrorist that kills innocent people to further some shitty political goal I don’t really give a fuck if you die

[@spencerhopkinson9874]

@@TitusCastiglione1503 yeah, the avengers kill a lot of people away from the public eye. Also every time they blow up some enemy base there’s gotta be plenty of rando janitors, maintenance, cooks, IT etc., not just goons

[@FULANODETAL]

@@TitusCastiglione1503 the bad guy didnt tr to surrrender and TOTLAY forget than he got superstrenght

[@Spinosaurus44]

@@TitusCastiglione1503 how was it immoral to kill a man who participated in the murder of your best friend? And how is it illegal to kill a terrorist? And honor? You’re talking about honor when the group he belonged to don’t even know what that word means

[@bsmi1361]

As soon as he became capt America he lost brain cells

[@Mr_Mistah]

"You've gotta do better Senator!"

[@abraham2172]

As soon as new writers came along.

[@eggtheman3164]

They're not terrorists, they're cartoon villains.

[@psychoticpebble]

Making me rethink, Thanos plan wasn't such a bad idea.

[@ryleynations6251]

The whole concept of how the Flagsmashers began is very interesting. And seeing how world governments are struggling to allocate resources and people to different areas of the world due to the aftermath of the blip is a great concept to explore, but they executed it very poorly in this series

[@chiffmonkey]

It's a terrible "concept to explore" because that's not what Disney is doing here, they're not exploring a concept - they're TELLING you one, shoehorning the open-borders politics that they support from the real world into the previously real-world-detached hypothetical scenario of Thanos' snap. And Disney's stance on the concept is honestly vile - insidiously partisan, extreme about methods and delivered with un-earned self-importance. This show rather than affirming that Cap made the right call in giving the shield to Sam - makes me think that Sam betrayed him entirely. And prior to the series I really liked him as a character. But that's what Disney does to interesting characters, just like Boba Fett.

[@ryleynations6251]

@@chiffmonkey they literally made Boba interesting lmao, he was one dimensional before his series

[@chiffmonkey]

@@ryleynations6251 Take it you never played SW Bounty Hunter

[@fandomking8939]

@@ryleynations6251 they made him into an idiot.

[@ItPreach]

@@chiffmonkeyOr read the Expanded Universe

[@somerandolad]

Steve: "I'm gonna need that shield back." Sam: "No, please, you don't understand I'm nothing without this shield!" Steve: "If you're nothing without the shield, then you shouldn't have it."

[@ipman3249]

I thought that was A train for a second lol

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

😂😂😂😂😂😂You've gotta do better A Train

[@gorrow1990]

Imagine if this episode aired in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. It would have been a dumb moment and gotten incredible anger.

[@The_BIaze]

Well… the terrorists responsible for 9/11 aren’t really terrorists. They just blew um buildings knowing that civilians would die…

[@ChisomagaIhezie]

Oor Oct. 7

[@matt_indy]

It’s crazy how people vilified John Walker more than the actual “bad guys”

[@conradojavier7547]

#JusticeforWalker

[@Wolffman109]

John was the only good thing to come out of this fucking abomination. #WeWalkWithWalker

[@loffeey9770]

Ofc... His friend was killed infront of him what do you expect from a person???...Sam and Bucky were just Standing there instead of doing anything but chased down walker and beat the shit out of him... Idk what was the point of this

[@exenofps]

Bet you think homelanders pretty chill

[@Wolffman109]

@@exenofps Well, I've never watched The Boys, so...

[@nicomikaeel8337]

"this is the only language people understand" isn't that quite literally the definition of a terrorist? sending a message thought fear and violence?

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Guess what??? The Goblin kinda showed this message to the world in No Way Home but done right because: 1. It's DaFoe again 2. His words while flawed are much truer

[@joshke335]

@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 But above all, he does not try to justify that he is good or his intentions are correct.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@joshke335 The "he" as in Norman??

[@joshke335]

@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Norman he doesn't even know what's going on, the goblin

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@joshke335 And even then that line still make a shitload of sense in No Way Home. You can't change my mind no matter what.

[@kapitankapital6580]

The definition of a terrorist is somebody who carries out acts of violence against civilians in order to change the makeup or policy of a government through fear. She *literally* admits to doing this. There is no question at all that she is a terrorist.

[@michaelshell8897]

Someone got paid a hefty sum of money to write this crap. Joker burning money was less of a waste

[@Helloimmaya855]

I was very disappointed with the show. Yes, they talked about critical subjects, but it was done to make it feel unnatural and forced. Calling them 'not terrorists' was stupid as telling Bucky he had over-privileged life. I get that Sam had been discriminated and it's obviously horrible but calling a man that had been a prisoner for over 70 years 'over-privileged' just felt like the wrong choice of words.

[@joetomlenschannel7372]

When Bucky told Sam that he and Steve didn’t know what it was like to be a black guy back then and that he was sorry he was expressing his condolences to Sam and Isaiah’s situation DESPITE what he had been through. Of course it wasn’t like Steve had any control over what happened to him when he became Captain America when he disobeyed orders but this part of the show is based in *actual history.*

[@mysterio8226]

Shut up

[@alexforce9]

Its funny as hell. Bucky was literal S L A V E To the russians for 70 years, forced to do things he didnt wanted to do, and there is Sam, saying to him that he was privilaged lmao.

[@commandershepard9601]

@@alexforce9 just racism against whites being pushed by Disney. Woke Bs

[@kenjong1465]

@@commandershepard9601 short but accurate

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

The only thing I loved about this was John Walker. He was the only reason I didn't quit the show even after he was screwed over by almost everyone from the show creators to the theives known as Falcon and Bucky

[@loudtaste1046]

John to me didn’t do anything wrong

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

@@loudtaste1046 Hell yes He didn't do anything wrong!!

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

@s They couldn't handle their own failures.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

I think it's incredibly unfair how he is treated like a villain simply because he took the shield that Falcon left behind. May not be Steve Rogers but he stepped the hell up.

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

@Me Back to John!!

[@hidefreek6905]

Now this line becomes the reality.

[@cowfat8547]

nah it’s still a dumb line. hamas are terrorists

[@ThatManiacbucket]

Boy I love watching Captain Braincell talk about how mass murderers are innocent.

[@fishin4bass2002]

I felt like the entire dialogue from the falcon in that scene. He kept bitching about how the elites weren’t doing well and when they asked what he would do differently his dumb answer was “just do better”

[@greenbeepm]

I feel like thats always been case with the avengers, like talking about how the elites arent doing enough to help the people

[@MichaelAChristian1]

@@greenbeepm The Avengers are the "elites" and built ultron.

[@greenbeepm]

@@MichaelAChristian1 certainly not how its portrayed. Also ultron was the result of tony, not the avengers

[@MichaelAChristian1]

@@greenbeepm Tony is the rich out of touch too. Falcon says "do better" but doesn't know what to do. If the blind leadeth the blind they shall both fall into the ditch. Jesus loves you! Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3aTiHl_bJyZj8U

[@bivutiv.barman5029]

Yeah 🤧🤣🙂bro..it was cringe 🗿

[@cal5754]

The problem with this show and WandaVision is the horrible things the characters do but the writers try to justify it with lines like "they don't know what she's been through", when Wanda spent months torturing these people

[@lokes350]

YES EXACTLY

[@12classics39]

It’s a classic example of “hurt people hurt people.”

[@drfabulous2804]

“These terrorists are responsible for 100s of deaths” “They’re not terrorists, they’re just misunderstood”

[@honinakecheta601]

Bro that show was so infuriating…… it was like they were trying to make you like the TERRORISTS.

[@jasoncaetano9708]

So John and Zemo were technically the villains in this show, even though they did more heroic things and helped solve the problem. Zero destroyed most of super soldier serum thus prevent the flagssmashers from using it And John took the attention of the flags masters off of Sam and Bucky and onto him, he also saved the senators and got Bucky out of prison Yeah two villains indeed

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Zemo despite being locked up might still be a threat to anyone even if his "Alfred" is gonna do most of the job. You're still aware of that huh?

[@gmc4444]

@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 I'm sure you tried to sound smart with that comment, but you clearly missed the point of Zemo's motivation

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@gmc4444 I did not miss it but imagine being killed by a butler. God and I thought Alfred beating Superman was crazy cool

[@raimiallpowerful2020]

Something funny is that John walkers thing why people class him as villainous is when he killed the flag smasher. He killed a terrorist. Like the police etc. Would for a very dangerous terrorist. The fact he's a better cap than Sam is crazy. Sam got demoted. He went from his own character and well written to "hey you need to be like this more popular white guy to be popular" and is not well written. Bucky should be cap. Known him for nearly a hundred years then he watches as Steve gives it to some asshole he met while running

[@cantaloupegodling352]

Zemo commited dozens of murders directly and indirectly caused the whole story by fucking the Avengers so they weren't able to fight Thanos. Walker is an example of the person Erksine never wanted to get the super soldier serum: he may be skilled and strong but the super soldier serum amplifies everything and if your heart can be corrupted it will. Walker kills someone surrendering (war crime) and only regains his senses when dozens of innocents are in danger. For the record I thought this show was shit but these are bad complaints.

[@elmerson6670]

John Walker deserves that shield more than pretentious Sam

[@356MONKEYMAN]

John Walker? The guy who clearly tried his best to fit the mantle and was willing to work with people, who hated him for no reason, to get the job done? Who killed a terrorist after said terrorist became an accomplice in his best friend's murder? That John Walker? Nah he's clearly a villain.

[@wongyikai2126]

@@356MONKEYMAN Lmao right? If Steve was still alive and that terrorist killed bucky, I’m pretty damn sure Steve would’ve gone all out too.

[@link1117]

@@356MONKEYMAN the guy who fucking murdered someone publically?

[@LeedleLee457]

@@link1117 And Steve Rogers, the guy who murdered many people secretly in the name of war and secret operations.

[@Rorymchair]

@@356MONKEYMAN this John fella clearly sounds worse than Hitler

[@mikoajnowak5104]

The show was so crappy that I gave up on Marvel

[@ngkinglong9705]

We have got to do better. - injustice Superman