The WORST Muscle Growth Trends (ft Dr. Mike Israetel)

Two REAL doctors sit down and break down some of the WORST trends in the lifting world.
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About the channel:
I am Pak, a scientist, a coach but most importantly, a lifter.
I did my PhD on "the minimum effective dose for strength" and currently, as part of the Applied Muscle Development Lab (NYC), my research focuses on strength and muscle growth. As a coach I work with individuals of all professional and sporting backgrounds, from elite strength athletes to busy professionals looking to get stronger and improve their body composition.
As a lifter, there's not much more to say than "I lift and enjoy training hard". Citations for the "I lift" part can be provided upon request.
This channel is essentially me rambling on about all things lifting, including the odd "hot take" here and there with the aim of helping other fellow lifters as well as inspiring non-lifters to lift.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

“I choose not to believe it because I don’t like how it makes me feel” …perfect statement.

[@Philipp_Thielen_510]

Mike's tangent on the tiger diet and tiger sex was absolutely insane

[@Samasm69]

"I only eat predators...you are what you eat" - Dr. Mike

[@EliteSimba23]

Tiger jiz everywhere

[@asdfkjhlk34]

No spoilers 😡

[@bagger35e]

If Dr Mike was scaled up... hed look like a space marine from 40k

[@SnarfsBalls]

That or a Fallout super mutant

[@hannesgranlund8838]

Mike is from catachan confirmed

[@WindmillStalker]

"Doctor, I am pinned here!"

[@mattmckillop2280]

You manipulated the algorithm -- I got this video as a recommendation while watching a gameplay demo for the new Warhammer game

[@M_kanpur]

This is like the 5th Dr. Mike collab I've seen in the last couple days. Doctor Mike, Chris Williamson, Jeff Nippard, Eric janiki, and now this

[@kent1146]

@M_kanpur is learning how the algorithm works.

[@pretty_flaco]

@@kent1146🤯😂

[@M_kanpur]

@@kent1146 you don't seem to understand what an algorithm is. I didn't get recommended these videos, I'm saying all these videos were released within a few days.

[@toxicmaxi]

The whole time I thought Dr. Mike was saying he eats tires

[@badgerbush3556]

Only Lamborghini tires

[@TheLightFantasticArt]

The Phil Collins song is actually "Sussudio", not "Sudio".

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

​@TravisHowrish why not. It's hip to be square 😂😂

[@MicahYaple]

dr. mike named is sudio cause he's waiting for the singularity

[@badgerbush3556]

Try getting reservations at dorcia now you......

[@j.v.7451]

Akchually!

[@dr.weeniehutjr]

Hey do you blame him? He was trying not to be sus. Wouldn’t want the homies getting the wrong idea

[@user-fn1cd6mo9z]

Video was too short...I could have enjoyed watching you guys for another 15-20 minutes at least! Based takes, good humor, great collab.

[@Dr__Pak]

Appreciate it ❤️

[@gustavogiacominpinho3987]

"I know, but I don't choose to believe in that because I don't like how it makes me feel" defined at least 80% of mankind there.

[@TheHybrid350]

Great collab

[@RyderSolace-sg6db]

if i didn’t know who Dr.Mike was before watching this video id think he’s completely insane.

[@badgerbush3556]

What the heck is normal anymore? Hahaha

[@JackgarPrime]

And since you already know who he is, you go into this already knowing he's completely insane.

[@juhis5936]

check out those dr mike out of context videos they're hilarious

[@dr.weeniehutjr]

Don’t know if Mike is gonna read this but the story behind Sussudio according to his session bassist was that it was a nonsense onomatopoeia he used in the demo just to have his melody in place, and when it came time for the final track he hadn’t come up with any lyrics for the chorus, so he just left it as is

[@JFP69]

Thank you!

[@sergejstojanovic2518]

10:42 what was that XDDD

[@souplis74]

quick flex

[@etimezz]

your med programs are awesome

[@reallyeffingcooltechnodude]

The legendary bassist Leland Sklar told on his youtube channel why that Phil Collins song is called Sussudio (not just Sudio): Collins sometimes made the vocal lines before actual lyrics. Made some noises, melodies and afterwards tried to find words that would fit. He thought the placeholder "sussudio" worked so well that there was no need to find an actual word to replace it.

[@christianschwarze2105]

The tiger sh!t was refreshingly detailed ;-) luvitbro

[@dannydagerous]

Thanx

[@novantium3760]

Mike's commitment to the tiger diet is impressive

[@KasumovMedia]

Is the reason flies worked so well for old school bodybuilders, is because the flies are just a heavy stretch after they're already fatigued? And so, would you expect them to look the exact same if they replaced flies with weighted stretches for the exact same time?😎

[@kban77]

A weighted stretch as you describe is the eccentric phase of a fly. The fly is good because it gets the lengthened portion of a rep as well as good eccentric action and good pec isolation

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Flys* They weren't ingesting the insect.

[@HODListics-wk2vj]

@4:50, the transcription foot note says attraction instead of "contraction." Was this edited by a bot?

[@jessem2117]

We need a 10hr video of Dr. Mike making animal sounds

[@codycurtin2295]

I love how Dr Mike says carnivore diet BASE and then proceeds to explain the benefits of a complete diet 😂

[@hellfire5108]

The Joel Seedman guy must be the greatest fitness troll.

[@Dehura]

New casting couch? 😉

[@marcom4024]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how high do you guys think Michael Israel is in this one?

[@coldthekid61]

Yes

[@marcom4024]

I agree.

[@EirikFjeldal]

Off the scale

[@Biglenny-v9r]

9001

[@kban77]

Zurcher. Sandstorm. Darude

[@superseantendo]

He is after my lucky charms!!

[@MeanBeanComedy]

I'm certain that the contraction matters. We'll find it out later with the science dorks.

[@RBC0405]

Mike should train with Dorian for a week. See if that changes his tune.

[@KalediostrophicWhyscape-mc2ek]

that calve was poppppinnnn

[@plugliferecords8618]

I only think that we are missing the point. Peak contraction resembles the sport of posing…..

[@mark-xc7oq]

3:34 😂😂😂😂I accidentally paused it here

[@glenndafoe8650]

Mike looks so deep into the prep hole… it’s like there is some serious urge to murder being suppressed (barely) 💪

[@zackmeaders6199]

I dont understand how people can do 10 to 20 sets per muscle per week. If I did 10 to 20 sets of quad exercises there's no way I'm also doing 10 to 20 sets of hamstrings workouts like deadlifts. If I do 3 sets of pull ups and rows for back, there's no way I'm doing 10 to 20 sets of bicep work outs on top of that. If I do calves and glutes, there's no way I'm also doing 10 to 20 sets of quads per week. And I don't even go to failure most of the time. Am I lifting too heavy?

[@caiocavicchia6236]

Yeah. But you're missing the point: You actually can't recover if you truly train all the muscles for 10 to 20 sets per week (failure). Even on steroids, you have a limit. That's why you prioritize SOME muscles, and not EVERY muscle. I can do 20 sets for quads per week, but all my other muscles will go to maintenance volume. I can do 20 sets for chest, but all other muscles go to maintenance. You need to choose which muscles you'd like to prioritize and all the rest go to maintenance volume (Take the volume that you usually work with to grow it, and reduce it to 1/2 or 1/3, that's your maintenance volume). And after that you do the same with other muscles, rinse and repeat. If you're truly able to achieve 20 sets per muscle (For every muscle) per week, one of two things are happening: 1 - You are not really getting to failure or at least 3 RiR 2 - You do not have a great amount of muscle that your body takes all that long to recover them (In time, when you are building muscle, you will notice that you'll take a lot longer to recover than before)

[@caiocavicchia6236]

And just another take: Each muscle have different performances. Today I can work my quads twice a week. 6 sets per session, 12 in the week. Hamstrings I usually can work them about 1.5 times per week. If I really do a heavy set of SLDLs I'm sure that I'll be really sore for the next 5 days at least Each muscle do have it's own time for healing and strength curves in training, so take the 10 to 20 with a bit of salt, because you can't do that with every one of them I'd suggest you try with what I commented before about choosing the muscles you want to focus first, and then you will feel which of them you can really have a great frequency and which you need to wait a little longer And don't forget to take your deloads every once in a while (For me it's about 7 weeks), as that systemic fatigue builds up over time

[@Tiberias33]

Holy shit Dr mike is shredded shredded

[@Chris-ux7xb]

Mike looking like he’s going on stage in 2 hours holy lean

[@monkeydjaime]

Hehehehe Peak Attraction 😍

[@TheGauntmorfin]

basically the nutrition part of fitness in a 100 words - eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit

[@gur262]

Nah. The other side of fitness is endurance sports. If you get all your carbs from veggies and fruit you ain't doing triathlon training. You are a competitive eater more than a triathlete at that point. You are probably going to want some Pasta and rice and bread

[@TheGauntmorfin]

Ye, I hear you. Endurance sports require high numbers for carbs. I get that.

[@Classicalliberal85]

No vegetables, just meat, eggs, dairy, easily digestible carbs like white rice and a little fruit

[@valentinocozzi]

I needed sum bald action

[@ethanpispas4098]

Mike has an actual death face right now. Is he competing soon?

[@doc_sav]

My understanding from other videos on his channel is yes.

[@samuelmeisterw]

Hello

[@greatperhaps7224]

Can you explain why mind-muscle connection is important? If we know that, biomechanically, a certain muscle will be recruited to perform a certain movement, doesn't that mean that it will get stimulated regardless of what I feel?

[@dylanodonnell3520]

I’m no expert but I’m assuming it is to recruit the maximum amount of muscle fibres while limiting stabilising muscles taking more load, for example in an incline press you want to emphasis the chest and reduce your front debts taking over when it’s difficult, once again tho could be completely wrong

[@greatperhaps7224]

​​​@@dylanodonnell3520 I thought something similar but like, do we actually have any empirical data that confirms that it actually influences muscle growth and it's not just something that we rationalized with no empirical proof?

[@DjDolHaus86]

If you are doing isolation exercises then it's important to know how to work the muscle you are trying to exercise, if you don't focus on it and adjust your technique to do the job then you'll naturally start recruiting other muscles as the work load increases. Mind/Muscle connection is super important to learning great technique and if you don't get your technique down early then you can spend years doing inefficient movements for less than optimal results. This isn't to say you won't get results but it's sort of like looking at your savings account after a few years an realising you could have been making more interest on your money (and therefore more money) if you'd put it in a different kind of account or with a different bank.

[@quentonnankivell956]

Dr mike says it's not.important

[@roberte289]

The way i understood it was just as a tool to help you with your technique.

[@mightyhouse3268]

"Tiger jiz, everywhere." - Dr. Mike 2024

[@MeanBeanComedy]

His right arm looks so weird

[@usbsol]

Full Rom... RIP

[@CrazedCorgi]

Did Mike clean his casting couch?

[@2FuNnY4uDude]

"i don't choose to believe in that because i don't like how that makes me feel" i know its a joke, but so many people these days operate like this ...

[@DaniRowane]

High asf😂😂

[@ALLrobotsAreSad]

Dr. Mike out here doing every other show/ KZbin channel/ podcast while not responding to Greg Doucette.

[@Dr__Pak]

Im literally in his house

[@ALLrobotsAreSad]

@@Dr__Pak Your point being?

[@Dr__Pak]

@@ALLrobotsAreSad escape the matrix

[@ALLrobotsAreSad]

@@Dr__Pak ok.

[@Dr__Pak]

@@ALLrobotsAreSad ❤

[@CONAN1952]

Love the video, and love the fact that I was born in the 90s and a vegan so therefore also the healthiest person ??? naaah I am kidding i am slug

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

Ugh,...Seedman 🤦

[@bertrandronge9019]

Oooh that's why I can't grow my calves ! I eat too much chicken ! 🤣

[@erickgomez7775]

I only eat plutonium

[@tonymontana3949]

Αν και δεν συμπαθησα το αναβολικο παραθυρι περαν απο καποια βιντεο ευγε για το επιπεδο που εφτασες ....ενας ελληνας να κανει βιντεο με ειδικους στον χωρο απο την αλλη πλευρα του ατλαντικου το βιντεο με τον Γκριζλυ απολαυστικο

[@_baller]

Ok now I’m confused Dr Mike saying don’t push pharma meds, when he’s like right up the butt of big pharma meds lol

[@doc_sav]

he was being facetious

[@_baller]

@@doc_sav he was trying to joke as if he was someone who doesn’t like big pharma, but he does like big pharma, I would say he’s being evasive

[@shutda0fuckup]

he's making fun of people like you

[@amitabhghosh8903]

Please make a video on Indian fitness youtubers because a lot of BS going on here regarding bodybuilding and its sick.

[@badgerbush3556]

I can vouch for the curry diet

[@gur262]

Can you name some?( That speak English in their videos)

[@roscoestark6589]

love that song! S S S Sudio!!

[@barefooted001]

Jowell Siidman is the worst physical training huckster I know of.

[@jeffbm6880]

I love the carnivore bros, bout time we had a group opposite of the vegan weirdos.

[@alexhunt7810]

Sounds better than the RProom

[@BIacklce]

The only argument necessary against the seedman method is that you look stupid doing it

[@jakedragon8753]

😂😂👏👏

[@emilienbialecki448]

Number one is Crosshit

[@g0aky]

ayy

[@tracysnitker1935]

Casting couch wink wink 😉

[@Funnymoney101]

All of you commenting "Sudio" are clearly mislead, it is "Pseudio" (source: Your Mom)

[@contentkeeper8769]

HAHAHHHAAHHAHA SOOOO FUNNNY 😐

[@b.k.7364]

No one ever wants to talk about the IARC 1A and 2A designations regarding meat products. Quite the inconvenient truth emerging from solid research

[@badgerbush3556]

Probably because they don't have any idea of what that is? Maybe? Hmmmmm

[@MauriceV3]

Oh no hotdogs are unhealthy?

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Carnivore diet? Heck Yes. I eat only sharks. Because "perfect engine" , "miracle of evolution", "all this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks"😅

[@sfarsitulumi]

I used to be a huge fan of Dr Mike but ever since his training app came out he ain't the same.

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

He's the same.

[@shaqitup]

@@user-ii7xc1ry3xthis, he just has a bit more to sell than before. I don’t find mikes promotion excessive but it’s definitely near being so. Compare it to somebody like Greg Doucette and it’s night and day.

[@contentkeeper8769]

@@user-ii7xc1ry3xYes, a complete fraud.

[@HODListics-wk2vj]

Dr. Pak's voice gets really phasey quite often. What gives?

[@bryanscruggs7566]

Don't forget to add yourself, Mike, and Jeff Nippard to that list with the "science based" bullshit.

[@Underfaith]

This guy seemed intelligent and knowledgeable, and then he went on about eating fkin tigers. There are dude bigger than him that eat like 100 eggs a day and chicken and shit. Don't give me that you ate what you eat bs. Yes, it applies to garbage food, but lean meats? I doubt it.

[@emilybrown628]

The music throughout is distracting and unnecessary

[@riokinsey2134]

Worst trend? FOLLOWING MIKE ISRAETEL. ON ANYTHING. NOT EVEN DEBATABLE.

[@ryanschiesler7839]

Wrong about carnivore.

[@TRISEDMICE]

orthodox power ☦☦☦🇷🇸 🇬🇷

[@jonw9119]

How can you argue against HIT when the results spoke for themselves? Dorian Yates and Mike Mentzer were huge, how is that possible if the method doesn't work? I don't care how good your genetics are, their training style was clearly what gave them their growth. Very dismissive.

[@contentkeeper8769]

They also ignore how many people DO get gains from HIT, and how many people DON’T get gains from their style of training. “Very dismissive” is perfectly accurate to the deceitful rhetoric of the ‘science based’ influencer dogma. They are incredibly afraid of their low IQ ideology being exposed as what it is, objectively false. Arthur Jones (the creator of HIT) and Mike Mentzer trained many naturals, and they have all made progress and some even won bodybuilding shows (biggest being Dorian Yates. 6x Mr. Olympia.) Yet I suppose those people don’t exist? The only people I’ve seen “Doctor” Israetel train are roided up fitness bros who have no real feats to back up their unintelligible claims. Doctor is in quotations because it means nothing. They only bring it up constantly because the average person associates a doctor with being 100% correct. The average person lacks critical thinking skills, so they are easily duped. It seems like they just hand out PHDs to really anyone nowadays. Just attend a few classes in a college no one has heard of and you’re an ‘exercise scientist’ now. This is my reaction when any RP/High volume bro tries talking to me: 7:15

[@aliante12si]

Now look at Ronnie Coleman, he was bigger.

[@ShawnFumo]

They didn't say it can't work, but that it may not be ideal if you aren't already very strong. I'm pretty sure they didn't do low volume for their entire career from the beginning.