The Worst Pro Tour Top 8 of All Time

You thought Nadu was bad? I have a Pro Tour Top 8 that's at least in contention if not the worst of all time. 2024 Magic has nothing on the 2000s and its less refined rules of the era.
Turns out Pro Tour Rebels was pretty aptly named and Lin-Sivvi is remembered as the terror of Block Constructed for a reason. Turns out that legend design was something that took awhile to get to the same point we have now.
I love the Magic Pro Tour and I've always wanted to make a video like this, if you enjoyed it let me know I'm looking to make more things like this every now and then!
While I'm still very much excited for Bloomburrow spoilers, I hope you don't mind a bit of a detour from our present into Magic's past.
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Credits:
- This video features the songs 'Title' and 'The Void' from the game 'Orb of Creation', used with permission. Thanks Marple for being awesome.
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- Small bit of footage used from the series Pretty Deece, it's awesome and you should check it out: • The WORST Block In MTG...
- All the other footage used is presumably owned by the LCS, WOTC and the PlayMTG channels. Everything was used with the intention of sharing the great stories of competitive Magic and credit was attributed as best I could.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Holy smokes, this video did a LOT better than I thought it would esp. since the channel is very much still growing. I'm glad there's an audience for this type of content and I'll certainly be making more in the future (I already have some ideas cooking) but just want to note that as of right now esp for newer subs that it's going to be more the exception than the rule as far as content goes on the channel. That being said the appetite is clearly there so I might have to effort the next one sooner than I thought!

[@gogodr]

I can't imagine the amount of research that went into making this video, but the delivery was really on point and really easy to digest. Not only that, great work on the editing giving visual aids and transitions for pretty much every single point.

[@SeedSnatcher]

I'll be honest, I don't really like Commander content. I came in with an open mind after reading your channel description and this was a great video! There's not really a lot of history of competitive Magic stuff out there so I look forward to more.

[@Draco9909]

Here before 1k subs 8D

[@violet_broregarde]

cut to the chase faster on your next video please

[@joe.5103]

Big fan of competitive mtg history. Also, I disagree with the comment about cutting to the chase. The video had a good tempo.

[@Pachitaro]

Me: "This eldrazi are crazy! It's gonna be so hard to play against them!" A fuckin bird: 🗿

[@billlong4586]

They will let Nadu live until summer ends like hogaak probably.

[@Krythavar]

i hope they start restricting cards like they did in timeless. worked really well for the meta

[@WitherFang]

​@@Krythavar They will not, so just abandon that idea.

[@NateBullock-ow6on]

​@@Krythavarwhy don't you whine a little bit 😢

[@davidbeckbeef]

About until Bloomburrow drops

[@m1xxx3r]

unless they get serious slack they'll wait till next ban period which is at the end of August

[@RoseGoldenPetal]

To quickly correct you, it wasn't 20% of Nadu decks at the PT, it was 25% as there was a 4 Color Variant Nadu list there too, Bant Nadu covered 20.2% of the field while the remaining 5.3% of the Nadu decks ran the 4 Color Variant.

[@vctrsigma]

I saw the same in the list, but he did say "more than 20%" even though he could have just as reasonably said more than 25%

[@HungryOnPlane]

@@vctrsigma I did know the number was higher but wanted to keep the same consistency as the graphic on screen I was referencing. This was actually a very intentional bit of scripting!

[@Billchu13]

I remember convincing my brother that Lin Sivvi could activate her second ability from the yard

[@donbionicle]

You are an evil, evil person. Well done!

[@Seltaeb_]

We should just ban all 3 mana spells tbh. That seems to be the throughline.

[@NateBullock-ow6on]

Why don't you whine a little bit 😢

[@animalchin5082]

We've suffered for too long from 3 drops like Teferi or Oko

[@Seltaeb_]

@@animalchin5082 rift bolt has been a manace too long!

[@FableErrejeDMR]

@@animalchin5082 uro

[@GutsyTen42]

I was listening to this and thinking "Man this sounds like Pastrytime" and then you mentioned your time in league of legends 😂

[@BigNonsense]

God I adore historical magic content like this. Really appreciate your hard work.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Thanks bud

[@FirstLast-dh8ks]

I find magic tournaments very hard to watch. they don't show you the decks being played and it seems like they just assume everyone is deep into magic and knows everything.

[@TeamGentlementlemen]

I haven't watched a tournament since like 2012, but they used to have really good commentary for the star city games tournaments that would explain every card being played. I wonder if there's anything like that today.

[@Josh-bn4ki]

Isn't that true of almost every sport though?

[@alexpoobum]

thats how i feel when i watch flesh and blood now, i want to watch and learn the game but no idea whats happening, dont know the cards etc

[@halihalo21]

@@Josh-bn4ki ? Magic has over 20.000 different cards. How on earth can someone know all off them. Yes on tournaments there are mostly only metadecks but still if you cant read the text on the card you have no idea whats going on. Most sports are easy to understand just by watching it.

[@Bsweet117]

Maybe dont watch real magic if you're a casual

[@nikolaskohl4269]

Really awesome video! I think what makes Nadu feel different is that it's not just wizards making mistakes like they did with Necro or Skullclamp, but it's like they are just throwing out insane cards and letting the community do the playtesting. We've had the incarnations, Ragavan, Thoracle, Jewled Lotus, The One Ring, Oko, and all of these things could have been fixed before they were released, but once they are in packs being sold, and it's much harder to solve problems because players have already built decks and these are the chase cards. It's not Nadu really, it's that there will always be another Nadu in a set or two.

[@N4chtigall]

By looking at the WotC actions in last months/years I wouldn't be surprised if they did that on purpose just to sell more packs. The amount of crazy strong, obviously problematic cards in recent sets is astounding. Not even mentioning the power creep. And the worst thing is that they aren't going to stop: yesterday the Bloomburrow trailer dropped and guess what? Even more strong, power creep cards that will make other cards completely obsolete due the sheer power.

[@fromryuk7785]

​@@N4chtigallhate to say it because I enjoyed 20+ years of 40-60 card format magic but these days the only format I even have decks built for are beginner teaching decks built from left over bulk commons and uncommons that I would teach new players with then donate the deck to them(haven't run into anyone lately but did give a few away like this.) and commander. It's a lot easier to swallow a powerful card effect if it's limited to one. And while you can make a commander deck hyper focus on 1 combo with tutors and everything, it's usually better to build a deck with multiple combos. That allows for a more dynamic game to play out since you may not be winning with the same win con every single time. Unlike 60 card magic where you build the deck around a couple Cards with 3-4 copies of your primary combo cards then engine support cards to protect, speed up the combo, or counter.

[@ekteboi4179]

Agreed! Also just looking at the speed with which increasingly obscure sets are coming out, the cash grab element of it is pretty obvious.

[@captainbarbossa289]

It’s a side effect of having absolutely no time to play test anything between sets. Nowadays, there’s a new product coming out every three weeks. There’s no time for r&d to properly playtest everything, and instead having to rush it out the door as quickly as possible. As long as this type of design continues, there will indeed be another Nadu every other set or so.

[@nikolaskohl4269]

@@N4chtigall Yep, agree 100% It's just that it's such a short sighted way to push sales. The thing is, magic absolutely depends on old cards, nostalgia, and players brewing with their old favorites, because at the end of the day, magic is fundamentally worse at being a card game than most other card games. When they keep printing stupidly power crept newness, and as players keep having the outcome be, it's not as fun to play my old favorites anymore, it kinda ruins the one thing that magic truly has to it's advantage. Just the fact that other games have no land flood/screw and they balance in other ways that don't depend on sheer luck in every single game, that's why magic desperately needs to not disenfranchise current players and to not powercreep out the older cards.

[@Uri6060]

Love the video! Would love to see more bangers like this ❤😊

[@user-sp9po5qi9q]

Love these videos. I've watched the Enter the Battlefield documentary style videos multiple times as well as every Inside the Deck vid about MTG Pro Tour history. This stuff never gets old!

[@ryanquinn1257]

I feel crazy Stockholm syndrome, but I really feel without Nadu this modern format would be real fun. One Ring is the next boogie man for basically giving a freebie turn and crazy card advantage for all the free spells, but I feel after that storm is easy to hate out, tron can also be hated. I feel after Nadu and One Ring the format could be reallllly fun.

[@kaipography]

One Ring is problematic though as no one is sure if/how it can be printed. Price has doubled in a year, and there’s no word from WOTC addressing this. UB could be the reserved list of the 2020s and “Beyond….”

[@ryanquinn1257]

@@kaipography yea. I wish IP wasn’t a problem because I find the card and flavor interesting. I also think it’d be cool to actually get it restricted for such a flavor win, but doubt they’d introduce that Pandora’s box to modern. I agree One Ring should probably go if reprint avenues cannot be figured out though.

[@vitaminstorm9429]

​@@kaipography its insane that people think you cant reprint the one ring. They can easily make a universes within version. They've done it before, and they'll do it again

[@ryanquinn1257]

@@vitaminstorm9429 it’s a very big, rich IP. It’s one of the hardest IP’s to come back to the table and renegotiate deals with amongst what they have used so far, so yes I do think in this instance it’s not as easy to just “reprint as universes within” copies. They also renegged the promise to do such after the stranger things secret lair / promising universes within versions of them.

[@swolegolisopod7340]

​@vitaminstorm9429 ye I saw someone mention printing it but swapping in the mirari for universes within flavor and that honestly fits perfectly

[@alphacanios]

I just found your channel, and that intro really pulled me in, got an instant subscribe as that title screen rolled around. Looking forward to seeing more magic coverage from you!

[@Thrillford]

I saw this video appear in my feed and immediately recognised your voice. Excellent work and amazing production quality!

[@ilovestarcraft12345]

Same!

[@darkjackl999]

man when you cut to the LCS footage and i recognized your voice from the intros it threw me for a loop great vid

[@heddysteve7078]

Subscribed, Awesome video would love to see more these.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Thank you! For right now the channel will still be a mix of the current MTG/Commander content and stuff like this but I do want to do more of these in the future.

[@ARTificialDreams]

Excellent video! Good luck with the channel!

[@oliverhudgins-di7oi]

This is such a good video, I wish you got more views for such a good video

[@oliverhudgins-di7oi]

Well sometimes wishes do come truw

[@Laguzrick]

Great video! I don't watch the pro tour but I heard about the Nadu situation; so seeing a video pop up in my recommendations about a pro tour that's supposedly worse, definitely grabbed my attention and I'm glad I watched it. Keep up the great work, I look forward to more content ~

[@jasonsok]

I really appreciate the effort you put into the video and can tell your passion for the subject. Hope to see more like this

[@eavyeavy2864]

Last

[@marcelukawski1346]

Love videos about the history of competitive magic. Keep up the good work!

[@Mira.kel7876]

Just subscribed hoping for more pro tour history vids ❤

[@wrenn2694]

This is fantastic, more discussion about ban, broken cards, top 8’s and competitive magic please!

[@yasec4731]

Great video can’t wait to see more!

[@dylanfife5444]

I didn’t realize this was pastrytime until you started talking about your league casting career. Good to see more of you!

[@rezanajdi6165]

Great video! If I may offer some feedback.The music was a little loud around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="435">7:15</a> and it made it hard to hear you. I hope it on sound like a jerk, I’m excited to see more from you in the future.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Oh np! I did a pretty good look at the mix for this video but missed this part for sure. Thanks for the feedback!

[@Heavy_Play]

What a great history lesson. Absolutely loved the video style!

[@ahegao4915]

Just when I had uninstalled League and reinstalled Arena, who should come along but you! Liked, Subbed, and looking forward to more! Keep up the awesome work, Pastry!

[@XsumerianX]

How am I just now hearing bout this channel? Got a new subscriber with this video. ❤

[@datmuhq6821]

Randomly finding this video, thinking huh i know that voice and then realising why had me confused. Looking forward to more MTG content from you!

[@thomasgallegos3845]

Im surprised you didn't mention Eldrazi Winter (PT Oath of the Gatewatch). 6 of the top 8 decks were some flavor of Eldrazi, and it was a standard set that sent things into chaos for that modern PT. Also it was a pretty stacked top 8.

[@HungryOnPlane]

I'm guilty of being less familiar with post 2010 PTs esp but excited to learn more about the more recent era. In fact now that you mention it maybe that PT would be a good video idea...

[@thomasgallegos3845]

@HungryOnPlane it would be a cool comparison video just showcasing another format with a crazy oppressive archetype. If you do a video on it I'll definitely check it out!

[@lseths]

I am a little surprised the video didn't mention Pro Tour Eldrazi given it getting 6/8. That said, I don't think the Pro Tour itself was that bad (my biggest complaint about it was actually that they banned Splinter Twin shortly before it, which I think was unwarranted and was only done to try to shake things up). Yes, Eldrazi dominated, but Eldrazi was a brand-new deck that was on no one's radar prior to the Pro Tour. A new deck doing so well was a surprise. The format might have been miserable after the Pro Tour (until they banned Eye of Ugin), but in the context of the Pro Tour itself there was some excitement over a new deck no one expected doing so well. And that's why I think Nadu was a lot worse. People knew about Nadu going into the Pro Tour and already didn't particularly like it, and then it dominated and made people dislike it even more.

[@carnagejon]

Eldrazi winter was awfull. No reason not to play the deck. It was everywhere...

[@KoolMan685]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@HungryOnPlane Yeah eldrazi winter was my first thought when i saw the title. I think it’s even better for a video conceptually because the main card that lay dormant, eye of ugin, saw very low level of play before being unleashed, much like Eldrazi flavor wise, after the introduction of eldrazi spells with very low CMC such as thot knot, reality smasher, and endless one (who was just free 2/2’s first turn of the game and still a great top end card). That deck was brutal and hard to watch as the play patterns were rarely interesting but you knew that the deck winning was inevitable, again just like the eldrazi themselves. When BFZ first came out and the deck started popping up i wondered if wizards did it on purpose to just replicate the idea of how unbeatable and unrelenting the eldrazi were haha

[@kornkobb420]

Love the shout out to the GOAT at the end. Very classy! You've got my sub for that!

[@RetroPokemonDepot]

Awesome video! I totally forgot about how the Legend Rule affected these mirrors. How dreadful!

[@BlazinTre]

More pro tour content! I'm new to Magic and stuff like this is FASCINATING!

[@peterschanner]

I was just about to comment that you sounded exactly like pastrytime. Good caster voice translates well over to good youtube voice, good job!

[@alexcorbett9414]

Heard the voice at the start and did a double take; when I heard the LCS shouts I couldn't believe that one of my favorite casters was doing a MTG video! Instant sub, hope you keep doing content like this!

[@draconocor1309]

Really great video. Well presented and and edited- I think the music could be a little quieter but other than that this is great.

[@LegoLynden]

How do you have less than 1k subs?? What a well made video fam. Thanks!!

[@HungryOnPlane]

Road to 1k looking good though 🫡

[@JalebJay]

I thought you might have gone for Elves as they had 6/8 in the PT of Berlin. It was a deck that took long turns as Glimpse drew into chains of more elves, and games were decided on if you would accidentally deck out, or just hit your opponent faster than your opponent could set up.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Elves is REALLY interesting 'cause it was omega busted for sure but there's more interesting storylines about that PT I'd like to save for future things. Also any excuse to get the wild late 1990s ESPN coverage in a video LOL. Also I think the appetite for Elves in retrospect is a lot more palatable now whereas Rebels is universally terrible.

[@SnackCakes]

How do you have under 2k subs? Your editing, script, and topic are A tier

[@forerealz]

I got curoius when you showed the LoL clip in this and did more digging. Pastrytime I adored your Lol casting and am happy to follow you in this endeavor. I played Type 2 back when Rebels were a menace, and it was rough. I do agree that this PT deck archetype was indeed supremely dominate.

[@HopefulAgnostic]

Holy shit its Pastry Time. Wow I had no idea you had a youtube channel and this was just in my recommended.

[@FoxTashikata]

It’s crazy too because there’s a At Home Nadu deck on arena too thanks to a silly Alchemy card that reduces equipment cost by 1 and automatically gives you equipment.

[@johnnycaralta]

The one thing WotC hasn't changed is their incompetence when it comes to play testing cards that are blatantly broken.

[@Joshuralize]

They actually have changed it, because they used to have an entire team devoted to competitive playtesting that no longer exists.

[@johnnycaralta]

@@Joshuralize Apparently that team was terrible at their jobs then.

[@maximillianhallett3055]

@@johnnycaraltaYou ever heard the phrase “don’t throw the baby our with the bath water”? Having a team is better than not having a team.

[@johnnycaralta]

@@maximillianhallett3055 I never said it wasn't. I just said they sucked.

[@Ninjamanhammer]

​@@johnnycaraltaconsidering how bad things are now I think they did a pretty decent job.

[@damienreave]

Hey Pastrytime, I thought I recognized your voice! Great to see you doing new stuff, loved you as a league commentator and this vid was great too. Are you a fan of Orb of Creation? I immediately recognized the iconic song as one of my favorites from that idler. Not sure if you took it from that or if its just copyright-free music that both you and Orb used.

[@damienreave]

Forgot to mention, its the first song used in the vid, if that wasn't clear.

[@HungryOnPlane]

👋 I am a big Orb fan indeed, there's actually two tracks from the game in the video!

[@Mightypi]

Regarding nadu, its transparently far to good. It was carefully made to be this strong, its to push packs

[@Snow_Fire_Flame]

Hanlon's Razor goes here: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[@tylerberg4832]

@@Snow_Fire_Flameya inconceivable they would want to sell packs right ? Yuro oko and nardu were all made to sell packs

[@ZeHamberglar]

I would put any caw blade era pro tour up against pro tour rebels, but I'm so happy to have a video about lin sivvi's effect on magic.

[@SadToffee]

if it's not too disrespectful of your time, I'd love to know how you got in to the professional casting circuit. as someone who has casted a few small events for some games as an amateur I've always looked on at pro casters and thought about being in that position.

[@Hdtk2024]

Its not a disaster for wotc because it sells packs.

[@KK-pm7ud]

It's a feature. Not a bug.

[@Vijudo]

Pastrytime talking to me about magic the gathering? This is something I never knew i needed in life and I'm all for it

[@lulu1997master]

Oh shit, a professional MTG commentator has a YT channel? With news and old school documentaries? Informed and well-edited too!?!? Dang, gotta sub early.

[@stoop..kid..]

Lotta people say hello and welcome man. Cool video though

[@nitiratp]

I was 16 when I opened a Rishadan Port and remember being disappointed that my rare was a land. And I loved my Rebels deck, I was lucky enough to get a Lin Sivvi too, and was the envy of all my friends ^_^

[@ogolthorp]

I think also a big reason is that there’s so much redundancy, and a lot of times, disrupting the combo still means you’re behind on cards. Nadu doesn’t require you to go all in like many other combo decks do.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

There's something hilarious about a Stasis deck being the "good guy" relatively speaking.

[@rtvandle]

As someone who resides in New Zealand, its difficult to find someone who doesnt know a person who has been to antarctica. Currently they have 28 jobs going mostly in contruction and labourers. People go there all the time

[@philipmorse-fortier5499]

When you started showing the old video, I knew it was going to be Lin Sivvi. The legend rule was such a problem.

[@uptherockies]

Great vid - glad to find a new auto watch channel !

[@evans7665]

its cool how in this one and like take affinity as an example, the winning decks were decks built to beat the clear best deck.

[@tante8074]

I already knew which top 8 you were talking about before watching the video hah

[@JohnSmith-cw5hs]

did not even realize this was Pastrytime when i clicked on the video!

[@owenkeith1188]

For me, 2016's Pro Tour Oath of the Gatewatch was the worst. 6 copies of Eldrazi in the top 8 (other 2 were affinity).

[@Drecon84]

Well, now I want to play Orb of Creation again...

[@Necrotog82]

I can relate too Kai Budde at the end, having started playing mtg in 1995 i made alot of friends just sitting down in the local game shop and playing.

[@CenJohan]

The 1999 pro tour season does contain my favorite final match of Magic. The legendary Brian Davis/Bob Maher match wherein Davis is the only player ever to go 5-0 and lose.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Shh don't leak the future videos!

[@noahsandler1726]

Please more pro tour history videos ❤

[@sterisharms1468]

I remember kaladesh block when it seemed like the only deck in standard was mardu vehicles...

[@hudsonsin]

Glad I clicked on this video, lesson is Wizards will always print more busted cards (or change the rules to fit it) 😂

[@PhyYuGiOh]

I was wondering why the presentation and voice sounded scarily similar! I love competitive coverage in card games, and you scratched that itch, I don’t even play MTG, I should add Cheers to Esports in card games!

[@wesmorris3529]

Brother really said " the question was not when but how quickly nadu will be banned" That is when brother you meant not if

[@muchochucho9778]

holy shit the LAST thing I expected after clicking on this video was to hear pastrytime

[@drillmachine7]

Nothing will be worst than Atlanta pro tour in 2016 when an Eldrazi block deck dominated Modern format.

[@user-mh6ut4vl8o]

The fact that it doesn’t die to lightning bolt kinda already seemed broken to me tbh

[@canman87]

"... THE best pro tour finals match of all time..." *Shows finals from Chicago 1999* My man 🤝 That match is mind-bogglingly good. I also love that line that Randy pops off in the lead-in to game five: "Bryan Davis is trying to become the third consecutive rookie to win Pro Tour Chicago, he's also trying to become the first person ever to win the finals five games to zero." Legendarily savage roasting 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ffxivguild-mahiko-san]

I knew I knew that voice - hey pastry.

[@inflatablefish921]

the moment you said "another three drop" I knew this was going to be about Lin Sivvi

[@DesArthes]

It's not Lin Sivvi fault 🙂. Problem was bad legendary rule.

[@Ariamaki]

I wonder why they had Nadu's ability cap to triggering twice per-turn Per Creature rather than twice-per-turn period? It'd be a little more awkward to format but WAY more sensible.

[@autobotjazz1972]

I did not play back then but i have heard about it this, in mirror matches it was just a race to to could get Lin Sivvi out first. Yeah if the legend rule was the same as back then Nadu would be even worse than it is now.

[@WorldofSoupS]

I wonder if the results would be different if there werent so many hate cards for ruby storm clogging up decks and sideboards

[@TheSmartCinema]

what the hell, I clicked on the video just because I was curious, I never expected to come across the MTG channel of...... one of my favorite LoL caster of all time???!!! I didn't know you were into MTG, PastryTime!

[@HungryOnPlane]

Oh you know I've only being playing for 25 years LOL Magic is the only thing I've done longer than League...

[@noesunyoutuber7680]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="850">14:10</a> - Man, you can see from the footage how exhausted Eskeland was by the end. He doesn't even look that excited to have won the Pro Tour, he's just like "thank Christ, I don't have to play against any more Rebels."

[@HungryOnPlane]

And he only lost to it once at the event LOL

[@JRChiossi]

You clearly didn't live through the Tolarian Winter

[@winter945]

Heh, it is a small thing but at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="510">8:30</a> you have the set symbols mixed up, nemesis was the axe and prophecy was the crystal

[@HungryOnPlane]

LOL no one has to know. It's funny because I know for a fact in the edit I swapped them because I thought they were in the wrong order. Should've trusted my instincts...

[@shadowofseattle1338]

Nothing is worse than Nadu! I cast witness protection on it when my opponent was tapped out with nothing but it, a bristly bill and a llanowar elves on the table... He proceeded to draw 5 lands on my turn, flicker nadu, and proceeded to draw 8 more cards on my turn He literally got 5 fucking lands on my second turn... because for some bullshit reason if you flicker it, it keeps going forever

[@TrashcanActual]

Great video. For the algo gods!

[@HungryOnPlane]

Why thank you ^__^

[@admazzola3569]

" wowww a nadu + shuko deck. daring arent we ?? "

[@diegocrusius]

thanks for reminding of good days of mtg

[@PalPlays]

Probably should have mentioned All That Glitters *and* Cranial Plating when mentioning Cranial Ram.

[@bigbojangles4585]

Quiting modern was one of the best decisions of my life.

[@Corroderptor]

Me too man. It’s actually crazy how most of my interactions outside of work were solely to beat their 400$(minimum) deck and buy-in with mine. The reward is more packs/store credit to continue the cycle and bragging rights to no one who has an actual life.

[@bigbojangles4585]

@@Corroderptor Yeah I mostly draft now at fnm's. I bought into the format because it was supposed to be nonrotating. Boy did I get fooled lol.

[@tomasvalerio6043]

You should try premodern

[@bigbojangles4585]

@@tomasvalerio6043 I have been enjoying watching Premodern on youtube but haven't really looked into the price of decks and I am not sure where I would even be able to play around me.

[@tomasvalerio6043]

@@bigbojangles4585 well if you wanna give it a try there’s an online webcam community or the Mtgo community as well! As for the price of the decks, you can get good ones for cheap if you want or of course you can go for the juicy stuff… that’s on you! What I’m trying to say is money is not a problem to enjoy the format and be competitive in it

[@7upac]

Nadu, ring, necro, bye bye

[@warmonksLoL]

love how everyone who is in the league ecosystem that came from mtg are my favorite people in the scene

[@thibaud1330]

Bruh who let the intern design a legendary card ?

[@CarloGoiff666]

I'm 40 years old. Mercadian masques was my introduction to mtg. There were no spoilers back on those days and black was and still is my favorite color, so when the moment came i chose to build a black mercenary deck over a rebel one. Yeah :/

[@ianm1462]

Played the hell outta FNM and Grand Prix tournaments from 2013-2017. Glad to see high quality content on a game I used to love - fortunately was always a Limited guy, so format warping cards were for the uber-sweaty types (your 0-2 droppers). I’m gonna redownload MtGO…

[@Nr4747]

Nadu ticks literally every single box for a ban-worthy card: Extremely heavily played (x), warps the meta around itself (x), strong combo card (x) - in a resilient shell (x), strong card even without the combo (x), repetitive and/or annoying play pattern (double x), causes tournament issues due to monopolizing too much game clock (x). They will ban this card once the Hasbro suits are sure that all boxes of MM3 have been sold and the impact on the secondary market is considered not too heavy anymore.

[@antonioarrendol2655]

Bant Nadu would still be as boring if the ild legend rule existed, because it'd still chain into the most boring win turn possible.

[@youngcyanide1046]

I know it's not the pro tour, but the mythic championship that was 69% Oko has made pretty much any other tour watchable for me. At least almost 3/4 of the matches aren't pretty much mirror matches.

[@HungryOnPlane]

Oh boy Oko honestly deserves his own video. Might be the card that ruined the MOST amount of things.

[@youngcyanide1046]

@@HungryOnPlane Oko, Uro and field of the dead made for a very... ruined first few months of Eldrain

[@av_79]

Bring back blocks and block constructed! (old man yells at cloud)

[@iwanomorgan6557]

I'm sorry for being ignorant. So, which format is Nadu more balanced on? Commander or Modern? I feel like the former is alright for the Simic birb