The WORST Ranked System in Gaming History...

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Liahm

Liahm

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@digbythesky7653
@digbythesky7653 2 ай бұрын
I used to be a person really interested in PVP, I would watch all the guides on what to have, and I was pretty excited because I finally understood what I was doing. The gear came from the master duels or darkmoor (which is farmable and not hard to get without spending crowns) and everyone ran ward pets or triple double which made hatching for them pretty easy and once you made a pretty decent pet you were ok. But ever since falling out of wiz and coming back everything is just super grindy and pay to win or play crazy hours to get keys for spellements and have to max everything out which is very time consuming. I don't even know what half the symbols mean on the cards now and the pet hatching price is so high to even get a chance to get the pet you want. And the ranking system not being forgiving is like the final nail in the coffin for me. If you're going to make gear behind crowns (and don't get me started on raid gear), and pets behind crazy prices not to mention having to max out spellements that are also time consuming, at least give people without those things a chance to rank or at the very least don't punish them severely so maybe if they get those items they might have a chance to recover. IMO this ranking system sucks because it fails everybody. It makes people lose motivation because whats the point of battling if it only punishes you in the end because of some wand maycast or rng that you cant even control. This is coming from a person who has been playing since they were 6 years old and truly loves this game. I want to see them do better because I want the game to thrive and be like how it was ((aka why people joined and enjoyed it in the first place)). I know it needs to make changes to not make it boring and repetitive but if the changes are going to just ruin things for people and block nearly all players from being able to do it then i dont think its the changes we need. Now, I think that yes its ok for people to want to be the best of the best. max the spellements, have crazy good pets and maybe crown gear too. but there should be good alternatives to these that arent locked behind something. It shouldn't be the norm for everyone. maybe if you wanted to compete on the leaderboard, but not everyone should have to pay to even have a chance at PVP. Now I understand some will say "but PVP is optional you dont have to do it if you dont want to pay crowns or grind" thats true we can just not do it. but is its okay to lock it up from everybody aside from the 1%? no. PVP is end game for most players. Its why people stay and play the game. Stuff is exclusive to pvp players, content once available to the masses is now more barred than ever and It really is saddening to see. ((i don't normally comment on KZbin anymore, but KI made me really annoyed with this so I had to give my take. Sorry its so long. I used to defend Ki because I really love the game and playing it, I didn't even mind the crown gear because I understand they want to make money. but this is just not okay anymore.))
@MegaBakuganfreak
@MegaBakuganfreak 2 ай бұрын
Liam not gonna lie been a fan for a minute I like watching you pvp but recently I’ve noticed you’ve been talking real wet whenever you win and it just seems toxic what’s going on bro? it’s like you comment hard on the toxicity all of the time but you contribute to the toxicity too and I don’t get it. You’re better than that bro
@morganmerritt5006
@morganmerritt5006 2 ай бұрын
I want to learn pvp but tne spells confuse the heck out of me lol. They need a list that people can read.
@uiucchemistry2664
@uiucchemistry2664 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the ELO system is too punishing! It should be more of a flat system that uses pre-set tabled values! For example, warlord gain or lose 16 points against other warlords, marshals gain or lose 12 points against other marshals, etc. Make each rank have its own pre-determined point value. The trickiness comes into play during mixed rank player matchups such as warlord vs knight, etc. For these common mixed matches, adjust the point system. Now if a warlord wins against a knight, they only win 8 points since a knight in theory should be an easier opponent than another warlord. That’s fair. If the warlord loses to the knight, the warlord only drops by 8 points instead of a full 16 points so that it’s less punishing. On the knight side, if the knight wins, they gain a whopping 16 points over their usual 8 points for beating other knights (since they beat an even tougher opponent being a warlord) but if the knight loses then they only lose 4 points instead of 8 since understandably they lost against a more skilled opponent. In either case, the warlord and knight aren’t punished as severely for their loss and the warlord wins less than normal points and a knight wins double points. This system would likely do better.
@Mujtabaa_M
@Mujtabaa_M 2 ай бұрын
Then the next video will be “NEW RANKED SYSTEM BAD, WARLORD TOO EASY???” If you took another minute to review your idea, you’d notice that you’d created an infinite influx of mmr into the pool of players. Let me tell you, when the game becomes “play long enough to get the highest rank”, you lose any competitive integrity to ranking at all.
@uiucchemistry2664
@uiucchemistry2664 2 ай бұрын
@@Mujtabaa_M It’s a better idea than what we have now & KI can fix the influx of mmr by restricting each rank to only queue one rank above or below themselves and if necessary some ranks can queue 2 ranks above or below themselves for KI to find the sweet spot of what works best for the health and longevity of PvP. It also beats people losing interest in PvP because the system was too punishing that they didn’t bother at all or for very long & thus giving up easily rather than losing interest because they played long enough and attained warlord.
@Mario30548
@Mario30548 2 ай бұрын
balance and storm the best 2 schools at the moment
@jackghoststone5055
@jackghoststone5055 2 ай бұрын
That's how ELO is supposed to work. Even a 9 out of 10 win rate will mean ranking down if you are ranked high enough. Sounds to me like you were on an up swing, even with your good play, and you ended up coming back down some. Everyone is in the same boat and yet some people are ranked even higher. Because their win to loss ratio is even better. If there is a problem it's not with ELO. I know you like to think of yourself as a good player, but truly great players find ways to be prepared for their bad matchups and diminish randomness. If a problem lies anywhere it's in the balancing of the schools
@liahmisavibe
@liahmisavibe 2 ай бұрын
Losing 20 rank to things not your fault out of your control is way too steep though.
@jackghoststone5055
@jackghoststone5055 2 ай бұрын
@@liahmisavibe Then I would say the thing that's out of your control is what needs to be addressed. I don't think the ELO is the issue, it's working as intended. In am ideal world you would get matched up against someone else close to your rating, so if you ran into a bad matchup and lost, you would still lose rank, but not that much. It's a combination of running into a bad matchup that also has a much lower rank, that results in a loss of so many points. Not enough players queueing or too lose of a matchup algorithm is the real issue
@XxJokerxX_
@XxJokerxX_ 2 ай бұрын
Me hearring the “worst than any other game” talkin about wiz, like hmm, KI does have many problems that are worse than any other games. Ex: gambling, crowns being the main currency instead of gold(jokes but every normal wiz player knows so many things are locked behind crowns like stitching, unlocking sockets, chest spins, energy,) the “free to play” saying as if no more than 2-3 hours in game ur hit with a paywall, meaning still monthly memberships taken out of people’s wallets who actively pay crowns already ( i guess this goes hand on hand with the KI just wants any dime u can get them and do not personally care about the players) ooh and if i wanted to progress in my spellements (rank1-10) my only choices are grinding or starting over a new wiz so i chose that but o wait, there are items i have on my max wizards that can be useful and fun to quest with on my lower wiz BUT I CANT BECAUSE THERE IS A SUCH THING AS “NO TRADE ITEM” IN THIS GAME FOR SUM REASON. My whole account should be considered “max” and i should be able to get more freedom with what gear my characters can have through my shared bank.. But no. A jewel i wanted for an aoe on my death i have to pay for packs all over again just so i can genuinely have “fun” while questing on a level 15 by having a aoe jewel(morganthe jewel) but no KI doesnt let us have that much freedom nor “power” cuz they have to nerf everything in the game to give players a “handicap” (best way i can explain it) thanks for letting me vent LIAM 😌 ( i did also email ki this and told them they arent gonna be getting money from me anymore ) as they should
@pugzy4249
@pugzy4249 2 ай бұрын
you CLEARLY didn't play overwatch2 when it first came out with their 7 wins or 20 losses ranked system, because THAT is the worst ranking system. i've ever seen.
@Sean11194
@Sean11194 2 ай бұрын
All you seem to do is complain about this game for kids find a more mature, populated, fair game that has a good rep for pvp maybeee
@ZENSCRID59
@ZENSCRID59 2 ай бұрын
I hate the ranking system they have out now! 😔
@julianCpvp
@julianCpvp 2 ай бұрын
good meta except for ice being unplayable #buff ice
@AnimeW69
@AnimeW69 2 ай бұрын
Keep making videos Liahm!
@ZENSCRID59
@ZENSCRID59 2 ай бұрын
They need a better ranking system 😔
@aapduenas123
@aapduenas123 2 ай бұрын
I’m at 72 wins and 43 losses sitting at 1500 rank… right where you start at…
@jackghoststone5055
@jackghoststone5055 2 ай бұрын
The way ELO works is not based of your overall wins and losses but your most recent
@ZENSCRID59
@ZENSCRID59 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree!
@zeddpierre2938
@zeddpierre2938 2 ай бұрын
main reason why im afraid to queue now is losing -20 rank cause of rng its not (worth it from all your progress)
@ZENSCRID59
@ZENSCRID59 2 ай бұрын
It is!
@levimanning2311
@levimanning2311 2 ай бұрын
First! from a fellow storm main i love your channel keep it up.
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