The Worst Tank Versus The Best MBTs

[@Martin-ot6kw]

Switching to HEAT for extra damage just gave me +10 depression holy hecc

[@bubby9175]

Hecc

[@BOKCGrizzlyWarlord]

Can’t imagine Gaijin adding the danish bulldog. Has a 90mm cockerill

[@stefanogalliano5634]

Basically the C13 t90

[@im_flat]

The NM116 was Norwegian, not Dansk. NM = Norwegian model but yes it would be fun

[@tiznaeshnishto2584]

And the Norwegian Chaffee! Basically a modernized Chaffee with thermal sighting and low pressure 90mm that slings HEAT

[@BOKCGrizzlyWarlord]

@@im_flat I was talking about the danish m41 Walker bulldog, not the Norwegian super chaffee

[@thomasmacdonough288]

Doesn't the Danish M41 Dk-1 have the 76? Or is there another Danish M41 I don't know of Please enlighten me

[@benlex5672]

Just out of context, but the tank is semi-decent for the place it is serving (kinmen), a tiny island off the shore of China. It was replacing the over 650 M41C Taiwan owns before we received M60A3TTS, but by 1999 we received over 460 M60TTS and produced over 600 CM11 and CM12 tanks, making this project obsolete when it entered service. In the end 50 M41s were retrofitted into M41D and put into service in Kinmen (a tiny island off the coast of China) and armored fighting school. Note that the ones on Kinmen were only sent there because M41A3 serving there became such a fire hazard (their gasoline engine burn itself down when impacted) they had to be replaced. Yes I know it's a miracle M41A3 was still in service in 2010 but this is off the coast of China. The engine has 405 horsepower, which is way worse than the original engine. However, this was chosen because it was meant to fight mainly on islands that is not Taiwan where tanks will not get resupplied, so fuel economy was prioritized. A type 64 (not the one in war thunder) prototype was made with a 520 hp engine.

[@gattonero2915]

Kinmen Island's most powerful arsenal that is self-propelled is mostly ex-French M36B2 Jackson Tank destroyer, which made sense their mainstay tank defense is the M41 lol

[@cerdic6867]

Why? Why does being off the cost of china mean it is good? Why does being off the coast of China change anything?

[@gattonero2915]

@@cerdic6867 The last time the Commie PRC tried to invade that island, the Chinese invasion party during the Battle of Guningtou has a strenght of 19,000 troops against an understrenght infantry defending the Island. They were defeated and routed by the ROC defending the island with nothing more than an a platoon of 5 M5 Stuart that the ROC used since their operation against Japan in the Indochina region during WW2. The said Stuart fought against the Human wave tactic; the same tactic that UN force has been struggling in the Korean war, in this invasion and yet the Stuarts not only defeated them using its 37mm gun, when the ammo ran out the ROC Stuarts used themselves as battering ram and as a result of these Stuarts action, Kinmen Island remained the closest region of Taiwan to Commie China territory. Kinmen was literally an artillery firing range away from the mainland China territory, but it is still an island region and no matter how good the PRC tank is, it's useless when you don't have any secured landing zone to offload the tank, which made you rely on your amphibious force instead. The 76mm gun of the M41D is obsolete against the PRC MBTs, but not to their amphibious vehicles; thin-skinned and it barely floats on the surface. If they (PRC) even bothered trying to bring their MBT in LST, the LST's armor are also generally so thin that even a 40mm Bofors gun from a patrol boat could sink them without even having the chance to offload them into the coast.

[@shaddaboop7998]

@@gattonero2915 "Battering ram" is putting it lightly. The story behind the way they used those Stuart tanks is genuinely the stuff of nightmares. Once they ran out of ammunition, even MG bullets, they were used to methodically crush the enemy troops landing on the beach. The enemy soldiers would be suppressed from the shore while the Stuarts ran them over in their hiding places, I assume shell craters and behind piles of dead bodies.

[@benlex5672]

@@cerdic6867 2 things that we considered: 1st, anything larger than a light tank is no good to the terrain there. The island is too small for any MBT to maneuver and too heavily fortified for any light tank to land. At the time (1999) the main opponent the M41D would face was Type 69s, IFVs, and infantry. Of course, it will be inadequate for today's standard, but at the time it was deemed enough. 2nd would be the overall strategy. Kinmen is not exactly strategically important for Taiwan to defend the main island, and when war begins, there is no way Taiwan can supply Kinmen, so anything sent to Kinmen will be considered a lost cause and will not contribute to the overall war effort, thus the most effective weapon at the cheapest price is the mainstay. Over 80% of servicemen stationed in Kinmen are locals for the same reason. Self-sustainability is centric to the overall strategy of these islands, thus M41D with the best fuel economy, the most powerful gun available to the tonnage, and the cheapest price possible (since it's just a simple conversion of the M41C tanks, of which we have an abundance of) become the first choice. Of course, they are getting replaced by CM-34s and ATGM teams, but the background makes sense for the overall strategic decision at the time.

[@Alexlinkerd]

It’s not just 1996, they’re still in active service, and considered an upgrade to the M41A3 that had just been retired a couple years ago after a fatal accident

[@Zhoomer_radical]

What happened?

[@Alexlinkerd]

@@Zhoomer_radical one of them flipped upside down, apparently due to parts’ failure, killing the commander. Even if newly built, they are already inadequate for current battlefields - in this case, after decades of service, the wear and fatigue has made them worse than useless.

[@dominiquepois8034]

For perspective the leclerc one of the most advanced tank entered service in 1993 bruh

[@ayyylmao3026]

4:25 That is me in the AIM and SEP tanks - I was sure as hell mad I am trying to upgrade AIM from stock and using the HEAT round is like Chinese water torture. Don't know how that direct hit literally passed the entire M41D crew and barely yellows the track on the other side. "Great" match for me and my team otherwise so GG, Spookston - loved the vid

[@killroy1117]

I like how Gaijin for the past decade has omitted the fact that tanks dont generally go into battle with all their antennas sticking straight up in the air all over the place like a huge "Hey! Im right here!" flag.

[@Rickster-oq2yh]

correct me if i'm wrong but i think tanks don't usually fight so close that you can see antennas anyway, they usually fight so far away they can't even see each others antennas

[@damascus1111]

@@Rickster-oq2yhThey also tend to have to deal with infantry

[@RealThorn]

@@Rickster-oq2yh yea tank battles are rare.

[@gattonero2915]

@@Rickster-oq2yh " they usually fight so far away they can't even see each others antennas" >Zvika Greengold using the Sho't Kal to crush a regiment-sized Syrian T-55 group at point blank range during the Yom Kippur War: *audible laughter* >Colonel Douglas MacGregor's 73 Easting Battle that made the Abrams the stuff of legend which cemented the battle as the last cavalry charge in history: "Are you sure about that?" >SADF campaign in Angola using their Ratel 90mm gun-armed IFV fighting at point blank range agaisnt Cuban T-55: *Afrikaan laughter* >The current Russo-Ukrainian conflict where Russian T-80BVs frequently ambushed Ukrainian T-64BVs at point blank range: "If only you knew, tovarish" >What the Iranian had to do with their Chieftain and M60A1 to fight the Iraqi T-72: "Long range? i'll show you how "long range" is fought here" In many major tank battle of the Cold wars until now, the myth of tank battle happens at further range are usually broken by the reality of chaos within the battle itself, which brings me to the point i made above; During yom Kippur war, the tank battle weren't only fought at long range, but also at point blank range. It's not some battle, but MANY battle as well in that 1973 conflict. Heck, when i mention the 73 Easting battle (along with Battle of Medina Ridge) being a close quarter one, i wasn't kidding; the M1A1 Abrams and M3 CFV frequently engaged the Iraqi Asad Babil and T-55s around 50 meters, with 10 meters being the closest.

[@strategicperson95]

Only a few T-34s have their radio antenna put down to prevent this being a thing for them. Got to see the actual tank. Russian bias strikes again here. It also is amazing how even at 500 meters the antenna give away your positions. They don't at greater distances but they also stop rendering that it is a nonfactor.

[@jengsta9311]

Videos where you play a tank but in its intended time/ time it was made like this vid seems really cool. hope you do more of these

[@alexanderjones7769]

I would love to see spookston, taking the m4 105 and m5 to hunt big cats

[@gabrieliusjankunas3589]

Oh boy he's gonna have a bad time if he attempted that with the concept 3 😅

[@deruta37]

Taking an m/38 (Reserve) to 5.7 (m/49 APDS)

[@elpollo2805]

BTR-152, anybody?

[@deruta37]

@@elpollo2805 no

[@highonoxide1761]

Pls play the Doomturtle (T95) I'd love to see how you would do in it.

[@highonoxide1761]

@@Wolf-Nyan Honestly so sad that the absolute dominance of CAS makes such unique and challenging vehicles impossible to play. Another reason to add to the list why Gayjin needs to seriously rework CAS in ground RB ASAP

[@taj2332]

@@highonoxide1761 i aint reading allat

[@danny0487]

@@highonoxide1761 meanwhile Gaijin : here you got more stupid jets and 70$ premium jets Sad reality, that's why I play simulator quite a lot. Less planes and even if there are any, these are actually skilled pilots.

[@BladezAndrew]

@@taj2332 is this a joke? He wrote 2 sentences are you illiterate?

[@axolotlIl]

@@danny0487 I agree, while sim comes with its own challenges (rip to all the shermans I've accidentally killed thinking they're an Italian one) CAS is so much better there, usually I see a few planes just crash on takeoff but when you do die to a plane you know that the dude actually put in work for that kill. Also I really like realistic milsim games and WT has the best tank damage model (for PvP)

[@falfill2096]

I can only imagine how this is gonna go. (Edited) As much as I neglect to say it, but this has to been one of the most painful yet entertaining videos I’ve seen from your channel

[@thegorlnextdoorhere]

You should do that time accurate challenge with the ikv 103, the 4.7 td that I think is from the 50s or 60s. I think it be funny

[@FirstMetalHamster]

He could even combine it with the Pbv 301 in a lineup.

[@theoneandonlyartyom]

it'd work pretty nice its heat can go through 480mm and its 105mm

[@heretichazel]

7:48 I've had this happen a few times, one time in particular I was trying to shoot out the barrel of a brummbar and THREE TIMES the shot view showed me turning it red yet it never got damaged on the server's side

[@RassGames]

Spookston: "this tank is so bad and it deals no damage" Also Spookston: proceeds to do well with it in 10.0 matches xddd Good video tho ;D

[@Wooper160atThePond]

really that's just because he's an absolute monster at this game

[@spartanb-3128]

Nice to see that you're putting the $75 of backups to good use lmao

[@francesboy2]

Unrelated but I love how you can see Spookstons mouse shake every time he dies because literally everything seems to jumpscare him

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

The Elefant deserves a video; it was a tank teased since CBT and only just got added this year. Its a great tank for talking and its a 50/50 shot to either be nigh unstoppable or get dunked on

[@MrSourceMan]

Appreciate the use of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R soundtrack for the intro meme.

[@publicprivacy9495]

i cant find it anywhere, got another reference?

[@leahmarvel4033]

My grandpa drove the bulldog in its early days, like right after korea. He patrolled the berlin wall from what i always understood, im pretty happy everytime i see it in a game.

[@7shelties]

From Gaijin’s perspective buffing small caliber APFSDS would make the HSTV-L too strong. They can’t have that.

[@jevinliu4658]

But these are 90 mms when HSTV-L is 75

[@mails5054]

@@jevinliu4658 no theyre 76mm

[@jevinliu4658]

@@mails5054 Yeah, my bad. The Danish version has a 90 mm so that might have been the confusion Sucks to be any other M41

[@Sleeper____1472]

The M41 is the modern equivalent of a M24, the M41D is if one was left to rot for a couple decades and given the wrong parts. Also "God's going to take my soul up to heaven but there's going to be an IOU note from Gaijin." is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

[@leelime9857]

recommendation T34 E personal note i find your videos to be a happy space im always happy when you post thank you for all your hard work i genuinely appreciate it

[@CaptainCutlerCat]

Spookston:Man, this tank is so bad! Also Spookston: Gets an ace with it

[@AcinonyxFoxD1]

6:06 reminds me of how scary war thunder tank battles can be sometimes

[@elkrumb9159]

7:44 Spook this is actually something I’ve been wondering, barrel launched ATGMs on certain vehicles disregard the breach damage unless it’s completely broken for some reason I’ve been in T series tanks and when my breech is red ATGMs sometimes even manage to fire

[@marcusborderlands6177]

when the breech is red any gun can sometimes fire, but you might have a misfire

[@sayhellotoyou9271]

@@marcusborderlands6177 atgm launchers have the bug only. Many can fire when disabled completely, especially the aft-09 in the china tt.

[@marcellhegyi1363]

this thing is supposed to reach its top speed a LOT faster since the tourqe is a lot higher of the diesel and the gearbox is also slightly shorter then again gaijin doesnt know what tourqe is so

[@TheeTroutKing]

Fun fact: the m41 was produced between 1951 and 54 after being called to large for reconnaissance so it was replaced by the m551 Sheridan in the 60s (in America).

[@Galaxy-oy4nj]

Too large? The sheridan is huge as well

[@gusroberts8948]

The orange jet is not real It can’t hurt you

[@Darth_Barnaby]

I think more videos like this, playing tanks at their "historical br", could be really cool

[@ilikeships9333]

Playing r3 at 7.7 lol

[@thecrab2791]

@@ilikeships9333 killing BMPs using the R3 is an incredible feeling

[@ilikeships9333]

@@thecrab2791 cancer v cancer lol, r3 isn’t that annoying at it’s tier now. But the r3s design is annoying in the first place and just promotes ratting around or rushing and trying to disable tanks.

[@kousand9917]

This video really demonstrates the 2 main issues I see at top tier that are not compression, damage/spall and especially damage against ammo, (which needs to be WAY more) and damage against helicopters, those things should melt instantly to any HE shell. Maybe not APFSDS as it would go straight through but they should melt to anything else. Like AAMs delete planes with like a 10th of the explosive but a direct hit HE shell (or a HEVT shell) from a tank cannon should obliterate any helicopter instantly.

[@bookie8923]

Daimler Mk II might be another one that you should play. This armored car remained in service until 1960s it would've seen something like PT -76B and many more early cold war tanks. It's also a world war two tank that remained in service to the cold war that most didn't know about.

[@edim108]

9:05 a lot of US soldiers were thinking the same...

[@oingo481]

celere sahariano would be a great video. its like a rip off crusader with some trolly armour

[@fire304]

It does seem to me that rocks and buildings are suddenly much more "sticky" when you touch them while driving past.

[@rykehuss3435]

0:54 I dont understand why this is still an issue in War Thunder. Like why cant you easily see if youre in an up tier or down tier or whatever tier? Like show it on the screen, wtf Gaijin. For some inexplicable reason you have to look at the SP's to figure it out, and in situations like this it doesnt even work. Completely tarded UI design choices.

[@ArielK-a]

Play the Type-62 maybe? it was nerfed some time ago but still quite fun vehicle if you enjoy hard hitting LTs

[@12LoLproductions]

The German M41GTI seems like (on paper) the definitive M41 experience just gotta wait till it gets added

[@AveragePootis]

8:00 In real life i woulld imagine its a bit different, you would be fighting a defensive war in the hilly and mountain filled Taiwan, with a tank equipped with an advanced FCS, light weight and plenty of gun depression. Sure a ZTZ-96 wipes it's floor in a game, but during a defensive war against China in 1996, I think that this thing would have the advantage. Chieftain himself said that a T-55 equipped with thermals and a good FCS would be about equal to a T-72, which in practicality the ZTZ-96 is. My point being, it's not a great tank, but I'd say it was pretty decent for Taiwan's needs. Especially if it was fighting stuff like the Type 59 family

[@Nickles4]

I’m just now finding this channel and I’m currently binge watching everything you made. Absolutely enjoying every second of the editing and gameplay. ❤

[@thealmightytigor5308]

I have a challenge of true pain. Try using a sav2012 at br 10.0 and try to get a kill with HE it is possible. I somehow killed a 2a6 with HE frontally

[@lt.nukeyB0i]

I've noticed spookston has gotten more confident and comfortable talking while playing

[@TwinbornMist]

Love how the heli shrugged off the heat like no big deal truly a gaijin moment

[@imdone5566]

Still got those huge amount of backups lol

[@AoDGTr]

8:21 *Hits the belly of the hind with HEAT* Gaijin: Let’s add some tail damage

[@thepilot1435]

8:37 is the war thunder experience summed up

[@dem0nchild610]

I've been really enjoying these recent videos

[@im_kinda_mid4887]

Does anyone else think it kinda looks like an overweight Chaffe?

[@scxr3crxw712]

😂 6:09 *cv bolts around the corner* *tank theme plays aggressively*

[@Jaceluyah442]

9:09 spookston:WAAAAAI!!!

[@ZETH_27]

Your perseverance is an inspiration to us all.

[@MRFLOYD_gg]

Adding the funny little edits/quips into it was the best idea ever. “Sun optimal” 👌🏻

[@julopabene8736]

I can't believe a tank's life extension program is making Spook want to get a life-shortening program

[@C10uD50]

I'm loving these 10 minute videos.

[@aussiemilitant4486]

I remember when i was in Vietnam, me and a mate went to the Cu Chi tunnel systems, and they had a M41 there (completely gutted) but i remember seeing it and thinking it looks like a M41 but its too big to be a Light Tank.

[@XOFInfantryman]

Why'd they have one in there ? I assume when it was placed there it wasn't gutted yet unless they really did drag chasis into it

[@aussiemilitant4486]

@@XOFInfantryman War Trophy from the 'Vietnam Conflict'. They have some really nice stuff on display in various Museums and the like.

[@XOFInfantryman]

@@aussiemilitant4486 i see

[@vigno4945]

Please try out the Lorraine 40t or the amx-50(TOA100), though it already kinda sees stuff from its time

[@toqup_inua8023]

I also have more back ups on my T-64A than any of my AA in any nations (really good as AA) and best part, every time i use it, its always full up tier. Was really good when it first came out

[@kevincorrigan1754]

U accidentally bought 100 backups? 😂

[@onyx9943]

I think the M41D is the closest you can get to the Allied Grizzly from RA2...

[@Xeemix]

I mean, since you're already here I'd love to see you play the CM-11!

[@ratel832]

Zooming on tanks that are aiming at you with ominous sounds will always be funny.

[@YukarisGearReviews]

next video: Spookston uptiers the M3 GMC to 11.0, gets five kills per game

[@sasmixail]

9:37 - shot goes right through bmp2m and hits another tank :)

[@1228carlito]

2:25 "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE". This should be bonus points since he he said "what the hell" too.

[@oliverpettersson1965]

There is no such thing as an accident - Me right now

[@allergic2bulletz875]

The IOU joke had me rolling; that was very clever.

[@Jont12gte]

Chieftan Mk10 would be a nice one to see you play.

[@object7038]

It’d be cool if you played the t10m. Such a unique tank from an interesting time in history

[@matpaulin6504]

is pronounce the french jet :ou-ra-gan

[@someturkishguy8638]

>"Absolutely Horrible Experience" >he gets more kills than I ever will in a single match >his 76mm does more damage than my 125mm

[@blugastidiofable9517]

Suffering for our own amusement

[@pickled_bacon]

Can you play the M22? I know this might be more of a meme suggestion, but I'd actually like to see you play it.

[@rileyfitzsimons8875]

Still waiting for the British Striker video Spook

[@crazyadam9281]

The M41D and the AUBL 74/HVG are the pinnacle of 8.0 suffering.

[@ApolloSpacex2]

Goes from playing war thunder to playing stranded deep and every tank turns into a tiger shark. A truly horror game experience this is.

[@rigfordthebarbarian2895]

If you want to really get rid of all those extras, do something ridiculous like an 8 hour stream of only the M41D.

[@crocidile90]

Bruh, at the 3 hour mark, getting water boarded with diesel would be a better experience than that.

[@SoggyKatnip]

Are you trying to send him over the edge of what 🗿

[@follower9698]

Never thought I'd see GREETINGS in a spookston video

[@Alastorius510]

I've learned that patience is the way to go in most tanks with bad ammo.

[@justmymage]

For anyone wanting to get Spookstons decal. Apparently you have to buy something from the store after you click on the link to get the decal. Posting this here since its not mentioned anywhere in Gaijin store.

[@PonyJarCollector]

These longer form videos are so good

[@BigE1205]

Hits nose of Mi-24: "Mi24 suffers damage of tail"

[@danielsandberg9365]

this is a perfect summary of everything BS that happens in ground

[@filipszmyd390]

Maybe a video on VMF5? It's like a UK version of XM8

[@811brian]

“I’m gonna switch to heat for extra damage.” Gaijin: alright, roll a d20…… ooh, nat 1, sorry bud.

[@SoggyKatnip]

Like 10 seconds in and I'm already dying of laughter from the use of 3 backups. I do t even want to remember how much ge it was 😂

[@dr.raccoonphd8045]

In the killcam at 9:37 it looks like someone collateral’d that bmp and turms lol

[@Freezingflames13]

I hear the C&C Generals OST and I appreciate it, haven't played that game since I was like 9.

[@kodgames8950]

the M41D kinda looks like M24

[@realtic6452]

Would love to see a video on the RBT-5, that thing is an abomination.

[@ArcJupiter]

The memes give me life. They describe how my brain works when I play this game after 5000 hours

[@OutrunRewind]

the real question is, how many backups do you have left

[@Spookston]

87 :(

[@OutrunRewind]

@@Spookston oof

[@lv100magikarp4]

I don't know how, but it seems that volumetric shells have been a lot more trolly lately.

[@HEATSEEKR]

Please play the M60A2 Starship. Myself and a good buddy of mine drop bodies like bad habits in it. Also, try using some of the HE. My friend gets a decent number of kills just from the HE memes. The HEAT and missile do pretty alright. The lazer-rangefinder is what makes this thing a beast with its potato gun of a main cannon.

[@addedcheese]

Spookston, do you think the M41D would be an ok tank if it had a stabilizer?

[@thatcarguydom266]

It would go from the worst tank in War Thunder history to sub-par

[@greeninja2728]

Spookston going through the 5 stages of grief through this video

[@chevyowner]

dude this is honestly so reassuring bcos I just got the reg m41 and it has all the same issues and I thought it was user error

[@StevoMS]

Okay, you got me with the sneak level up.

[@harby8988]

Throwing a brick at a tank would cause more spawl then the 76

[@Zyppah.]

Spookston making good use of those 97 backups i see

[@troubledhook5106]

8:40 "When I die there's gonna be an IOU note from Gaijan" I laughed way to hard at this. XD

[@galis4383]

Meme'ed up videos from Spookston is my favorite thing ever

[@chewbacca7690]

So 5 months later, i finished grinding the M41D yesterday and had APFSDS today and actually it’s not that bad but when it get’s uptier i just want go cry

[@tsp5590]

You can still launch missiles when your breech is damaged in the M60