The WORST Trades For All 32 NHL Teams

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From trading away franchise players to giving away draft picks for essentially nothing in return, here are The WORST Trades For All 32 NHL Teams!
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@karlogonzales1282
@karlogonzales1282 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the Fleury trade wasn't that bad in hindsight and made a lot of sense. We traded him for cap space not for nothing. Vegas won't have their Cup without that trade. Their worst trade imo, is trading a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tomas Tatar
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 6 ай бұрын
Could have traded robin lehner instead
@karlogonzales1282
@karlogonzales1282 6 ай бұрын
@@jameskillbot2867 Nah. Fleury's cap was higher by $2m and Lehner is younger. No one can predict injuries.
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 6 ай бұрын
@@karlogonzales1282 lehner is 10 mil in debt and will not play again. Do you know how injured/stupid he is outside the game?
@karlogonzales1282
@karlogonzales1282 6 ай бұрын
@@jameskillbot2867 You don't know that at the time. Trading Fleury was the right move
@davidabramyk2999
@davidabramyk2999 6 ай бұрын
@@jameskillbot2867 most knew lehner was a headcase by then. Talented but mental. Fluery was a result of a series of moves trying to “go for it” eventually it worked out but no one would’ve predicted quite like this
@SURVIVORkid23
@SURVIVORkid23 6 ай бұрын
Seems a bit crazy to not have the Patrick Roy trade for the Habs as the worst in franchise history. They probably could’ve won another cup without making that trade
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 6 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. The two preeminent goalies from that era were Roy and Hasek. They alone could keep a team halfway competitive. That’s value you can’t even quantify.
@ramimahka4636
@ramimahka4636 6 ай бұрын
​@@zlinedavid I would add Brodeur.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 6 ай бұрын
@@ramimahka4636 He’s just a half notch behind. Marty was incredible, but there isn’t a scenario where I would take him over Hasek or Roy.
@bigbearkat2010
@bigbearkat2010 6 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Hockey is my major weak point in the four sports but even I know about the mess they made for themselves with Roy. Not to mention the immediate impact it had for the Avs
@Glolde
@Glolde 6 ай бұрын
The habs didnt have a choice patrick himself said im leaving straight on bench during the last played game wich made tv, because of his absolutly toxic relations with the coach mario tremblay it was all over the place in quebec.heck in 2021 uber eats managed to get them to forgive and forget and launch a series of food commercial ta set the quebec hockey on fire for finaly putting it behind them. Wasnt a trade it was a player slamming the door and leaving.
@acanadianineurope814
@acanadianineurope814 6 ай бұрын
There is NOTHING worse for Montreal than trading away Patrik Roy. Gomez and Mcdunnah was a nonsense side show
@alegradance
@alegradance 6 ай бұрын
I guess maybe the video didn't consider Roy as Roy demanded to be traded...... so I dunno
@joer8854
@joer8854 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that wasn't a bad trade as much as a bad and stupid coach.
@andrewheffelbower9807
@andrewheffelbower9807 5 ай бұрын
You mean trading away a guy who basically said "trade me, because i refuse to play for you anymore" is a bad trade?
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 5 ай бұрын
The mistake was the Coach not the Trade. Roy was left in for an 8 Goal Shellacking. That made Roy demand a Trade. Montreal got lucky they made a Trade so quickly.
@stumpsfan2020
@stumpsfan2020 6 ай бұрын
the thornton trade actually helped the bruins, it allowed bergeron to become the 1st center and krejci to become the 2nd center, allowed them to sign chara and then they won the cup after that.
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
this channel is one of the worst on youtube they spread alot of lies they dont do their research ..... this channel did a video on the eric lindros trade but didnt even mention they got peteer forsberg in the trade they dont do any resaerch their not even real hockey history fans otherwise theyd know about the lindros trade .. they have horrible opinions. they basically just recycle information without fact checking or knowing what their doing their is no point in watching this channel
@stayingwithit8632
@stayingwithit8632 6 ай бұрын
Plus thornton had way to much pressure on him to win a cup there
@casey98
@casey98 6 ай бұрын
Freeing Bruins $$$ to sign Chara that next summer changed the mentality of that team, they adopted his work horse mentality that we still see today
@Taubogason.40
@Taubogason.40 6 ай бұрын
And it got the gm fired. Don't think with Thornton and old gm they'd be to a single finale tbh
@jonboftwt
@jonboftwt 6 ай бұрын
The Thornton trade looks good in the long run, because the B's won the Cup and Thornton did not. They also let go of Kessel and Seguin before they were household names. A lot of talent just thrown out the window on a whim. By all rights, moves like that shouldn't have won the B's anything....And yet, Tim Thomas came out of nowhere, stood on his head in all directions, up down and sideways, and willed that team to a Cup. I can only imagine how truly great those B's teams would've been if they had kept everyone.
@valetboy21
@valetboy21 6 ай бұрын
If you're going put the Gretzky deal as a trade and not a sale, then for Pittsburgh their worst would have to be the Jagr deal to the Caps for prospects and a little cash, which was made to keep the team from going bankrupt, being sold, and possibly moved out of Pittsburgh. It was both a franchise saving move and the worst trade in their history.
@valpix7007
@valpix7007 6 ай бұрын
It's also worth noting that the Penguins *ALLEGEDLY* had a deal with the Rangers that would've netted them guys who were actually decent, but Patrick shot it down due to a grudge with Sather. That said, the Jagr trade was lose-lose because the Caps went nowhere with Jagr
@user-yz3fy9of1f
@user-yz3fy9of1f 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, The Caps were a defensive team - why in the world Jagr and his agent made that choice is still a wonder, but it was clearly a mistake. LOL: Then the Caps brought in Lang from the Pens to give Jags someone to work with - that worked even worse. At least the Caps finally started to show willingness to spend $$ to get a ring - of course it took them 18 more years and they should have won more - they were never "big on bright" - even to this day, but that's another story :-)
@PappyLongbag
@PappyLongbag Ай бұрын
​@valpix7007 Decent but old from what i remember. Ultimately, I think they end up with nothing to show for Jagr with either trade
@Natedawg-xc2pu
@Natedawg-xc2pu Ай бұрын
How is the Jagr trade then bad for the Penguins if the trade succeeded in its purpose???
@Natedawg-xc2pu
@Natedawg-xc2pu Ай бұрын
The Jagr trade was a win for Pittsburgh, it KEPT THE TEAM IN PITTSBURGH! Why the hell does someone have to point that out? The Caps went nowhere and the Penguins stayed in Pittsburgh, Mario bought the team and then drafted Crosby and won 3 Cups! How the hell is that lose-lose!? Commenting on social media needs to be tied to ones IQ@@valpix7007
@Nightshiftzombie
@Nightshiftzombie 6 ай бұрын
There is a far worse Blackhawks trade. Phil Esposito to the Bruins for Pit Martin and a.couple other pieces. Pretty much the Chicago version of trading away Joe Thornton, with the added pain of Boston getting a couple of cups out of it.
@stephenwodz7593
@stephenwodz7593 6 ай бұрын
Boston also got two all-stars, Fred Stanfield and Ken Hodge. It was the worst trade in NHL history.
@piesciuk
@piesciuk 6 ай бұрын
For most youtubers, "History" begins much sooner than it actually does.
@jimrabbit1
@jimrabbit1 4 ай бұрын
i read somewhere that Blackhawks wanted Gilles Marotte unfortunately his career was derailed by injuries. Martin was good but not Phil Esposito good. the oddball was there was a goalie involved who played maybe 2 games for Chicago and then basically disappeared from the NHL. why they included him i have no idea.
@marshaevelyn1
@marshaevelyn1 4 ай бұрын
spot on
@rubberneckinc.8937
@rubberneckinc.8937 2 ай бұрын
That is an Epically bad trade. A Hall of Fame bad trade. So of course there's no mention of it.
@DeannaGilbert616
@DeannaGilbert616 6 ай бұрын
The Neely trade is no longer the worst trade by Vancouver. The trade for Ekman-Larson is, and it's not even close.
@Crosby4ever
@Crosby4ever 6 ай бұрын
Neely trade is worse cause at least the Canucks got Gralund from that trade and he is productive
@DeannaGilbert616
@DeannaGilbert616 6 ай бұрын
However Garland (who I suspect is who you mean) doesn't cover the fact that the Canucks now have a massive cap hit that will be hanging around until 2030. And they could have had a ton of money come off their payroll if they'd just waited one year longer. @@Crosby4ever
@TzOn79
@TzOn79 6 ай бұрын
you want Loui back?
@ITDBruins
@ITDBruins 6 ай бұрын
Especially because it allowed the Yotes to get back into the first round and draft Dylan Guenther and had them take on a lot of expiring contracts so they weren't in cap hell for much longer.
@DeannaGilbert616
@DeannaGilbert616 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Any discussion of 'worst' trades has to consider the fact that we're in a hard cap environment now, and the cap has as much, if not more, of an impact than the quality of the players. @@ITDBruins
@jonboftwt
@jonboftwt 6 ай бұрын
A little befuddled that any Canadiens trade would get the nod over Patrick Roy. That trade was so devastating, that no team residing in Canada has won a Stanley Cup since. Don't be surprised if they name a Cup-drought curse after him 30 years from now.
@leeharrison5718
@leeharrison5718 6 ай бұрын
that’s super interesting, that was the random fact i needed today. thanks for sharing!
@Yellowtooth1
@Yellowtooth1 6 ай бұрын
I came into the comments to write exactly this.
@lequinow
@lequinow 6 ай бұрын
There seems to be a bit of a recency bias in much of the video.
@HelloMattMat
@HelloMattMat 5 ай бұрын
Fitting if it gets snapped after 33 years 😉
@andrewheffelbower9807
@andrewheffelbower9807 5 ай бұрын
Roy himself requested teh trade because he didn't want to play for the Habs anymore due to the coach.
@PA5150
@PA5150 6 ай бұрын
Completely disagree about the Capitals -- 2004 was a fire sale year once they fired Bruce Cassidy. It yielded Alex Ovechkin. The worst trade the Capitals made was in 2013 with the Nashville Predators: Martin Erat for Filip Forsberg.
@scottklingaman244
@scottklingaman244 6 ай бұрын
the kings traded Gabriel Vilardi he's going to be huge in a few years massive talent
@stephenwodz7593
@stephenwodz7593 6 ай бұрын
You completely missed THE WORST trade in NHL history. Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge, and Fred Stanfield to Boston for Pit Martin and a couple of guys you've never heard of. One of the top 5 scorers of all time, along with two all-stars, in return for one all-star.
@gregorykujawa6651
@gregorykujawa6651 6 ай бұрын
I totally agree the other two players were Gilles Marotte and Jack Norris that the Blackhawks got. that trade gave the Bruins two Stanley Cups in 1970 and 1972. even Bobby Orr mention if it wasn't for that trade they might have not won those cups.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 ай бұрын
You have to remember, this is a millennial making this list and to them nothing happened before 1990 or else they would have said the worst Flyers trade was trading Bernie Parent for Bruce Gamble.
@honkeykong4049
@honkeykong4049 5 ай бұрын
Drafting Corey Perry as a direct result of a trade, instantly makes that trade decent. If that's actually Anaheim's worst ever trade, they've done great overall.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 6 ай бұрын
The worst “trade” in Blues history is anything in the 1990s involving Vancouver. In the span of 2 years, the Blues traded Geoff Courtnall, Sergio Momesso, Cliff Ronning, Robert Dirk, Jeff Brown, Bret Hetican and Nathan LaFayette to the Canucks in exchange for Petr Nedved, Dan Quinn and Garth Butcher. Pat Quinn had to have had pictures of Bob Berry with a goat or something.
@smithryansmith
@smithryansmith 5 ай бұрын
I was coming here to say the same. Brindamour was fine but those two trades with Vancouver probably cost the Blues a cup run in each of those years. There's no question they f-ed up the team chemistry and were both terrible trades.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 5 ай бұрын
@@smithryansmith That 1994 Vancouver team that went to the finals was made up of Linden, Bure, McLean and nearly all the rest were former Blues.
@BobbyBoucher228
@BobbyBoucher228 2 ай бұрын
@@zlinedavidDepth scoring always wins in the playoffs and Vancouver got all of the Blues depth scorers in the 90’s and the Canucks playoff success speaks volumes of just how important depth scoring is.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 2 ай бұрын
@@BobbyBoucher228 Absolutely. At the top level, the Canucks and Blues of the mid-90s had comparable talent. Linden/Bure were comparable to Hull/Shanahan, and CuJo was actually a notch better than McLean. But Vancouver could roll 4 lines out one after the other after the other and just wear teams out. Once you got past the Blues’ first two lines, it was a pretty steep drop.
@BobbyBoucher228
@BobbyBoucher228 2 ай бұрын
@@zlinedavid You’re spot on and when the Blues finally won a cup in 2019 they learned their lesson from their failures in the 90’s by having effectively 2 2nd lines and 2 3rd lines that would just wear teams out as each series progressed. It’s the same reason I believe why a team like Toronto that is so top heavy will never win a cup with their Roster constructed how it is since the most elite teams in the playoffs can just shutdown their top 6 and what’s left after that is a non factor for them.
@timothycrawford1630
@timothycrawford1630 6 ай бұрын
Gretzky was not traded. He was sold
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
he was traded assets came back that wasnt just money get over i
@timothycrawford1630
@timothycrawford1630 6 ай бұрын
@@lilwoodiewood3457facts are facts man. His contract was sold in order to save the oilers because pocklington was mismanaging finances and if you listen to quotes from Gretzky now he will say the same thing: “First off I was not traded, I was sold to the kings” He’s been asked this a few times on wether the oilers owner will keep mcdavid. I’m just drawing a blank on his name right now I have no emotional ties to the Gretzky trade as I wasn’t even born yet Sounds like you might need a hug
@codycassel8996
@codycassel8996 6 ай бұрын
He was traded they trade was Gretzky for picks players and 15mil cash he wasn’t sold
@timothycrawford1630
@timothycrawford1630 6 ай бұрын
@@codycassel8996do you really think a owner would be that dumb to trade the best player in the game? I don’t think so. Pocklington needed to sell Gretzky to the kings in order to keep the team in Edmonton. Read my above comment a little more closely
@MrMuugoo
@MrMuugoo 6 ай бұрын
Well if you believe in conspiracies the oilers owner was strong armed by the league to trade Gretzky because they were trying to grow the game in the southern United States.
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 6 ай бұрын
I still say the Oilers sold Gretzky for $15M. And even though Pocklington didn't want to go through with trading Gretzky, his businesses were in desperate need of money. There is a documentary where McNall and Pocklington were interviewed and they discussed the process of the sale and accompanying trade. So Gretzky was not traded, but he asked for McSorley and Krush to join him in LA, which led to the trade for the package of players and prospects. Luongo would ultimately return to Florida for the final years of his playing career, bringing it full circle. Not only did Columbus acquiring Jeff Carter backfire on them, but so did their decision to trade him to LA and how the return didn't work out for them. The Sittler trade was the final step in Harold Ballard's master plan to finally get rid of him. Not only did the Islanders give up on Chara too soon, but so did Ottawa, as they sent him to Boston not long after acquiring him.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 3 ай бұрын
As bad as that trade might be, the Oilers still won 2 more Cups afterwards.
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 3 ай бұрын
@@Rockhound6165 They only won the 1 cup since the trade. They did reach the Finals a second time, though.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 3 ай бұрын
@@grahamdamberger7130 you're right. I thought they win in '88 without him but he was still there. Still they won without him and quite convincingly.
@kevnoxious
@kevnoxious 6 ай бұрын
Chicago trading Phil Esposito away to Boston is their worst trade. Rangers trading Rick Middleton to Boston thats their worst
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
this guy made a video on the lindros trade but didnt even mention that it lead to the aves getting roy and forsberg
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 6 ай бұрын
Espo was just part of it. Hodge turned into a 50 goal scorer. Stanfield is overlooked, but with Sanderson, he became half of the best penalty killing line in the league. Fred Stanfield was a great player.
@Yokes27
@Yokes27 6 ай бұрын
LOVE this topic. Fairly recent to finding your content regularly and like it all man. Keep up the great work!
@TheLsp2011
@TheLsp2011 6 ай бұрын
I can think of a tree that was worse than the Darryl Sittler one…. How about training their 1991 first round pick for Tom Kurvers…. Tom Kurvers ended up being a bum, and that first round pick they traded away, turned into Scott Niedermayer. One of the greatest defencemen of all time.
@AlbertTheM00SE
@AlbertTheM00SE 6 ай бұрын
Rask being trade and Leafs kept Pogee. Bruins win a cup with Rask while Pogee stayed in Marlies pretty much.
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
@@AlbertTheM00SE rask never played a second in the playoffs when boston won a cup .. that trade didnt win boston a cup .. rask played like 25 games that year and wasnt that good at all didnt play a second in the playoffs thomas won that cup he still wouldve won it with any other backup goalie in the league .. the reason the bruins won that trade isnt because they won a cup ... its because rask was their starting goalie for a decade and was a star and went to the finals twice and lost which isnt a bad thing its better then not making it to the finals like pogge never did
@polishpat95
@polishpat95 6 ай бұрын
You can think of a tree? 😂😂😂
@blakeattig5426
@blakeattig5426 2 ай бұрын
Toronto has made so many bad trades in their history. You can name a handful of bad moves and they are all the right answer.
@craigpennington5377
@craigpennington5377 Ай бұрын
I personally think the Ottawa/Colorado/Nashville trade in 2017 was the worst for the Predators. It was clear (and had been for a while) that David Poile wanted to bring in Duchene who had also expressed wanting to play in Nashville, but the best Poile could do was acquire Kyle Turris who was immediately signed to a six year contract in the same day. By the second year into the deal Turris was noticeably struggling, and to make things even murkier, Poile signed Duchene in the 2019 offseason making Turris mostly redundant on a roster that by then included Ryan Johansen, Duchene, and Nick Bonino which effectively made Turris a $6M/year third liner at best or a 4th line center at worst. After just the third year into his contract the Preds bought Turris out. Meanwhile Colorado got a major injection of young talent and prospects into their promising rebuild including Sam Girard from Nashville who has continued to do well and won the cup with them. The Predators are still currently paying Turris $2M a year and will until 2028. I think this trade is worse than the Johansen/Jones trade because while Johansen did not become the true first line center as advertised/hoped, he was still a more-than-serviceable player who made a big impact during their cup window, and I don't think it's fair to factor in the 8x8M contract extension into the choice as that came to pass a year after the trade itself and following the Stanley Cup Final run. That extension could be up for debate as one of the worst contracts that the Predators ever signed though.
@LordBitememan
@LordBitememan 6 ай бұрын
Arizona's worst trade has to have been when they were the OG Jets. Draper for $1.
@TheBenKimberlin
@TheBenKimberlin 6 ай бұрын
The Fleury trade, while controversial at the time, was the best thing for the team. 2023 Stanley Cup Champions.
@DiogenesTheCynic.
@DiogenesTheCynic. 6 ай бұрын
Fleury was not the reason VGK didn't make the playoffs that season, they suffered lots of injuries, and Deboer was not the best coach for the job to take the team to Stanley Cup glory. They needed the cap space and they did what they had to do. Yea it sucks the way they did Fleury dirty, as well as shipping off other big name misfits like Nate Schmidt and the Reilly Smith, but VGK is currently vindicated in their ruthlessness with a cup and an NHL Record for undefeated defending cup champion with its current team. Wouldn't be surprise if they Back to Back this year and other teams start adopting the same ruthlessness of just dumping players to free cap space and get draft picks.
@Hated_Sien
@Hated_Sien 6 ай бұрын
Can’t list Smith in those trades as he got to lift the cup.
@blakeattig5426
@blakeattig5426 2 ай бұрын
Smith was a cap casualty last offseason, so they got a draft pick for him at least. Plus, they needed space to extend Hill and Barbashev who were important in their cup run.
@brettshaw7726
@brettshaw7726 6 ай бұрын
Love this channel you really put the work in for the stats and facts for every video
@sarkisiangeorge
@sarkisiangeorge 2 ай бұрын
This has to rank as the worst trade in Detroit Red Wings history. Consider this pre-1970 trade between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Detroit Red Wings. February 10, 1960: Red Kelly was traded by the Detroit Red Wings to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Marc Reaume. Kelly won 4 Stanley Cups with Detroit between 1949 and 1955. He was first team all star 6 times and second team all star twice in the 8 years between 1949-57 as a defenseman. He was the first winner of the Norris Trophy. Montreal won five straight cups between 1956-60. Toronto's GM, Punch Imlach, knew he needed a great center to go against Montreal's Jean Beliveau if Toronto had any chance of winning a cup in the 1960s. Since Kelly was a great skater Imlach convinced Kelly to move from all-star defenseman to Center. Toronto won Stanley Cups in 1962, 63, 64 and 67 with Kelly at Center. Red Kelly won a total of 8 Stanley Cups in his career (tied with Maurice Richard, Serge Savard and Jacques Lemaire). Only Henri Richard (11) Jean Beliveau (10), Yvan Cournoyer (10) and Claude Provost (9) have won more as players.
@jimwoodman8158
@jimwoodman8158 6 ай бұрын
Bruins trading Ken Dryden to Montreal for two players who never played a game in the NHL is a much worse trade than the Thornton trade
@chriskazanas9941
@chriskazanas9941 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree, I was going to write this when I saw your comment. Boston trading Dryden to the Habs who then subsequently tlu rammed it up their asses the entire decade of the 70s
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 6 ай бұрын
@@chriskazanas9941 ...that ignores the stellar talent in front of Dryden.
@chriskazanas9941
@chriskazanas9941 6 ай бұрын
@bbb462cid the talent in front of Dryden was truly spectacular but without him in 1980 they couldn't beat Minnesota. And let's be honest it wasn't because they lost an aging roadrunner or jacques Lemaire. They still scored but Dennis Heron couldn't rise to the occasion in the playoffs.
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 6 ай бұрын
@@chriskazanas9941 By 1980 Ken's glove hand was junk
@chriskazanas9941
@chriskazanas9941 6 ай бұрын
@bbb462cid his glove hand was never spectacular. It was more his positioning and his ability to cover the "cross crease" (ask Jim Papin) plays that made him so good. And yes I agree that he only really ever had to make the first save and the puck would be cleared by one or more of the Big Three. Anyways this started with me saying how he made the Bruins regret the day they made that trade. Let's call a spade a spade, Montreal would not have won 6 cups in the 70s without him and Boston would have probably won at least 2 more with him
@1andonlyMiro
@1andonlyMiro 6 ай бұрын
Maple leafs trading away Tuukka Rask to Boston could also be argued to have a place on this list. At least a dishonorable mention.
@swen1208
@swen1208 6 ай бұрын
Kessel for picks that led to Seguin and Hamilton is the worst leafs trade ever. That trade set the leafs who were supposed to be rebuilding back by another 5 years.
@kentgoodwin2585
@kentgoodwin2585 6 ай бұрын
The Rangers trading Rick Middleton For Ken Hodge was brutal.
@casey98
@casey98 6 ай бұрын
The Joe Thorton trade was the Bruins worst trade but it was the key to relieve $$$ to sign Chara. The best move they ever did. Chara changed the identity of the Bruins, to a fierce team with strong work ethic that holds up to this day. Looking back, I am glad they made that trade.
@KevinHuff23
@KevinHuff23 6 ай бұрын
It also allowed Krejci and Bergeron to get Top 6 minutes as centers for the first and 2nd lines.
@rubberneckinc.8937
@rubberneckinc.8937 6 ай бұрын
The Coyotes franchise worst trade by far was when they were the Jets and they traded Selanne for Kilger, Tverdovsky, & a 3rd
@rubberneckinc.8937
@rubberneckinc.8937 2 ай бұрын
Agreed not even close. Another no hindsight needed trade. From when it happened on it's a terrible move.
@bobber1165
@bobber1165 6 ай бұрын
lol Johansen trade was good for Nashville, ask any preds fan they will say the same. Preds don't make it to the finals in 2017 and don't win President Trophy in 2018 without Johansen. Look at his playoffs stats in his 3 first season in Nashville. Plus Weber/Subban and Ellis were always better than Seth Jones has ever been
@DarkLobster69
@DarkLobster69 6 ай бұрын
I mean has Ryan Ellis ever finished 4th in Norris voting?
@I_am_Gaith
@I_am_Gaith 6 ай бұрын
Sure Jones developed into a very good D-man, but it’s not like the Blue Jackets made a deep run in the playoffs with him. He’s not even with that organization anymore, he’s an alternate captain for a rebuilding Blackhawks team.
@bobber1165
@bobber1165 6 ай бұрын
​@@DarkLobster69I think he could've if he had been the 1st RHD on a bigger market. Here he was in the shadow of Josi and Weber/Subban. I personnally think he was the most valuable Preds Dman in the 2017 run and could have gotten a shot at the Norris if he didn't get injured in 2018
@post1113
@post1113 26 күн бұрын
Bruins honorable mention: Tom Fergus (After Boston 437 games 137-208-345) for Bill Derlago (With Boston 39 games 5-16-21)
@yhwhsozo3680
@yhwhsozo3680 Ай бұрын
TY bubba. Well earned new SUB. Keep Hockey Manly!!! Others can play on a field.
@ericwilliams1845
@ericwilliams1845 6 ай бұрын
Explain to me how anaheims trade was bad? They traded a player and got Corey Perry in the end…and the player returned for a resurgence….that’s a great trade
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 6 ай бұрын
Yup.
@DarkLobster69
@DarkLobster69 6 ай бұрын
All about relative values. They didn’t trade for Perry, they traded for a pick, that they flipped with another pick for a pick, and took Perry. And the idea is trading away a player of Selänne’s caliber and not getting anything of significant value back in return is pretty bad.
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
this guy dosent know anything about hockey thier unfit to do this stuff they made a video on the lindros tradebut didnt even ention it lead to the aves getting forsberg and roy i feel like any hockey fan that actually pays attention knows about this
@wolfie1213
@wolfie1213 6 ай бұрын
Trading Theodore to vgk so they'd select Stoner was the worst ducks trade
@michealmaccallum798
@michealmaccallum798 6 ай бұрын
I agree he lost me right away with that
@rickpapineau5939
@rickpapineau5939 4 ай бұрын
Pretty rough start to a video when you begin with Anaheim and state, outright, that their worst trade resulted in them acquiring a player who played in parts of 14 seasons for the team and scoring almost 400 goals and winning a Hart and a Richard trophy, in exchange for 4 seasons of a player, during which said player scored a total of 80 goals... sounds like a win for Anaheim.
@MoneyHoneyBunny
@MoneyHoneyBunny 2 ай бұрын
The Blues to me made a lot of the worst trades ever. Having Mike Keenan as coach who his own players despised, turned a franchise that made the playoffs EVERY YEAR and could have won many stanley cups, into a unmotivated underperforming team that would always lose by round 2. They should have had it all, I mean they had Pronger AND Macinnis who won back to back Norris, and barely made the conference finals 1 time in a decade.... the Shanahan Janney thing hurt them a lot too but, Hull wanting to leave hurt them more. Adam Oates and Rod Brind'Amour being there long term, man. That franchise reeeeaaallllyyy should have many stanley cups.... 25 years in the playoffs in a row and I believe ONLY 2 conference finals, that's it.
@uncledamfee2347
@uncledamfee2347 Ай бұрын
For the Sharks it’s the Karlsson trade bar none. We had already had Burns so it didn’t make sense in the first place. Gave up a good 3C in Chris Tierney, Rudolf Balcers, Dylan Demelo who’s a good depth D-Man, Josh Norris who was the best prospect we had and put up 35 goals his sophomore NHL season with Ottawa even though right now he’s having a third shoulder surgery, and a 2020 1st rounder that after the Sharks fell so hard after signing Karlsson that it ended up being a #3 Overall selection who Ottawa used to select the best player of that draft Tim Stutzle. The San Jose Sharks were never the same. We continued to fall, and have now sold off every player that was tradeable and for the second season in a row are a basement dweller. This wasn’t entirely Karlssons fault but that trade expedited a basement dweller of a team that is stripping everything down to the frame before rebuilding again. Worst trade ever for the Sharks.
@dstcoyote22rants
@dstcoyote22rants 6 ай бұрын
You also have to mention that when the Ducks traded Jeff Friesen to the Devils, even though both teams benefited, he was ultimately the one who scored the series winning goals against the Ducks in the 2003 SCF Game 7.
@MrLegaroth
@MrLegaroth 6 ай бұрын
Why isn't Roy's trade set as the worst for the Canadiens? Even if they were forced to do it, the impact was much worst than the trade with Gomez. Just like Gretzky's trade, they were forced to trade him for financial reasons. Roy was traded for... different reasons!
@Wodz30
@Wodz30 6 ай бұрын
AND to make matters worse he helps the new Avs team (their first season) win their cup. I watched all of that live and could not believe it. I was a huge Forsberg fan and to see Roy come to Avalanche was beyond LOL stacked. That HAS TO BE the worst trade in Canadiens history
@aesirloki4833
@aesirloki4833 6 ай бұрын
100% i was thinking that it would be there on the list. They basically gave away a Hall of Famer because of beef with him and the coach lmao. (Im not laughing as Im from Mtl)
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 6 ай бұрын
@@aesirloki4833 and then fired the coach soon after
@adampastor210
@adampastor210 6 ай бұрын
I can't believe you never mentioned the Erat-Forsberg and Jeannot trades. I think these were way worse than the Lang and Richards traded, especially given the circumstances explained in this very video
@keithkosmal
@keithkosmal 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. Erat has been out of the NHL since 2015, and we all know what kind of career foresberg has had to this point. I understand that Washington was in win now mode, and sometimes you need to take risks, but I have a hard time understanding that trading away a prospect that was probably projected to have a high ceiling of talent was your best option to get 2 average players at the end of their careers.
@crowley29
@crowley29 6 ай бұрын
I'm watching throught the video as I'm writing this but are you serious??? This wasn't Washington's worst trade in this video....I'm suing jk 😂😂😂
@blakeattig5426
@blakeattig5426 2 ай бұрын
Jeannot trade is too early to judge.
@rubberneckinc.8937
@rubberneckinc.8937 2 ай бұрын
Forsberg for Erat is so the worst trade ever by the Caps
@nightmove78
@nightmove78 2 ай бұрын
Hagel too was a bad trade.
@scottynelson0
@scottynelson0 6 ай бұрын
Zarley Zalapski not Zalipsky may he rest in peace
@jergervasi3331
@jergervasi3331 5 ай бұрын
ALL of us in Vegas were pissed about the Fleury trade. His agent got into a pissing match with the coach, so MAF was a casualty of their bad blood. We still miss Flower!
@rudypericolo
@rudypericolo 5 ай бұрын
As a Caps fans I gotta say the Lang trade wasn't even close to being a bad deal (see Dino Ciccarelli or Filip Forsberg for examples of terrible Caps trades) they got a pretty decent return on Lang in picks and a serviceable nhl winger. The Caps were looking to rebuild at that time and front office was pretty certain there was going to be a work stoppage in the near future (turned out to be a whole year) giving them lots of time to get those picks ready for the nhl.
@redwings0142
@redwings0142 3 ай бұрын
I agree with this. The Lang trade really needs to be looked at with context. The Caps had tried to go all in by acquiring Jaromir Jagr and some other veterans, but after 2.5 years it went nowhere. They knew they couldn't win with their core, so they sold hard. Peter Bondra, Sergei Gonchar, Steve Konowalchuk, Jagr, Michael Nylander, Mike Grier, and Robert Lang were all sold off. It didn't matter what they got in return; the objective was clear: tank for Ovechkin. Many of our sold off veterans went on to have great success after the trade, but in the end, the Capitals walked away with their grand prize, and the rest is history. The Forsberg trade remains the worst trade for me. If the Caps had held onto him, who knows what they could have accomplished.
@Dukhalius
@Dukhalius 6 ай бұрын
No Patrick Roy trade here? That was a catastrophe for the Habs
@Actionronnie
@Actionronnie 5 ай бұрын
They traded Robert Picard to the Jets to get Patrick Roy drafted, I think it's their best trade ever 😂
@michaelfiddler7341
@michaelfiddler7341 6 ай бұрын
I think Vegas looked down it's pipeline and saw some future gems to man the net. Keeping Fleury would have stalled that and it was a good move all around
@seandecoursey
@seandecoursey 6 ай бұрын
as a hawks fan, im glad seeing someone come up with a worse trade than the panarin trade to pick apart
@tylercollins4654
@tylercollins4654 6 ай бұрын
As a Vegas fan, I was all for the Fleury trade. If it wasn't for it, we probably wouldn't have won the Cup. Most importantly, it got rid of that hack agent of his being associated with this team, with all connections cut the year after when they booted Max Injur-etty.
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 4 ай бұрын
What a second.... You mean to tell me Future Considerations has a name and that name is Kent Strong??? Does THG know about this lol Great video. Enjoying your channel. Best of luck to you in the New Year
@Crosby4ever
@Crosby4ever 6 ай бұрын
Calgary Flames worse trade is trading away Brett Hull period.
@KevinHuff23
@KevinHuff23 6 ай бұрын
While the B's trade of Joe Thornton looks horrible from a glance, you have to realize that trade allowed Boston to get Bergeron and Krejci minutes as Top 6 centers, it also cleared the cap space needed to sign Zdeno Chara.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 ай бұрын
And I really can't call a trade bad if a team win the Cup after.
@sethmizrachi8337
@sethmizrachi8337 6 ай бұрын
It might be recency bias but worst for the caps would be trading away Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat. At least the Lang trade brought back good players in Fleischmann and Green.
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 5 ай бұрын
The problem with that one though is Forsberg really didnt have a defined role and spot in Washington. Nashville was just so much better suited for him in every way. Better development system, better play style for his skills.
@PompeyGamesRoom
@PompeyGamesRoom 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video mate as always, for the Senators (although it was via free agency) I think that choosing Redden over Chara backfired in a massive way lol!
@ethanparker7900
@ethanparker7900 6 ай бұрын
Im not sure why jumbo gettin traded from boston was bad looking back since the bruins made 3 appearances in the final after parting ways with him in 2011, 2013 and 2019 and the sharks eventually did in 2016 along with conference final runs in 2010, 2011 and 2019 as well?
@footfungus6226
@footfungus6226 6 ай бұрын
I’d honestly say that the Kunitz trade for the Ducks was way worse as he became a very good role player for the penguins in 2009 and 2017. Maybe if the Ducks kept him around they might’ve been in the 2017 Stanley Cup finals instead of the Predators.
@ChristianB0421
@ChristianB0421 6 ай бұрын
Part 2 on Nashville: RyJo was later traded to Colorado at 50% retention in exchange for an older, beat up Alex Galchenyuk, who Nashville never signed. Meanwhile, Johansen became a key player on Colorado's power play and scored 4 goals in his first 6 games with his new team.
@jakeheerwagen8007
@jakeheerwagen8007 6 ай бұрын
I’m an Avs fan and he’s been huge for us. When that trade happened I was confused but I’m only assuming they planned to buy him out so figure it was the cheaper rout
@ChristianB0421
@ChristianB0421 6 ай бұрын
@@jakeheerwagen8007 I'm also an Avs fan, and I agree he's been great! When I first saw the trade, my instant reaction was YEEEEESSSSSSS! Also wth is Nashville doing? But then we saw them dismantle the rest of their core so yeah
@ShaunAnderson_Sauce
@ShaunAnderson_Sauce 6 ай бұрын
Oh no. Im sorry man but this video needed a bit more research on the Bruins trade. As a Bruins fan I used to think it was a terrible trade too until I found out that we traded away Thornton so that we would have enough to pay Patrice Bergeron when he was , so you were correct that the Bruins wanted to move in a differenr direction. This was a cap dump and we took 3 players that wouldnt take up too much cap space. It was 1000% the correct decision and was not our worst trade. I would argue that honor belongs to Tyler Seguin.
@Chrisman77
@Chrisman77 6 ай бұрын
I would agree. We actually don't have a bad history in terms of terrible trades. That Seguin one did hurt for sure.
@brendan9868
@brendan9868 6 ай бұрын
How exactly is the caps trading Lang a bad move? Lang was 34 on a bad team, the capitals wanted to rebuild, so they got a decent return for him in a 1st that ended up being Mike Green in the same year they won the draft lottery and got Ovi. That’s a pretty great trade off if you ask me especially with the hindsight of the regular season domination that would come in the Ovechkin-Bäckström era and eventual first cup in franchise history.
@GameShowMike
@GameShowMike 4 ай бұрын
No argument from me, a Penguins fan regarding the Naslund for Stojanov trade… but there was another trade that deserved to get the gong: George Ferguson to the Minnesota North Stars for Anders Hakansson and an exchange of first round draft picks. The Penguins finished dead last that season, but could not capitalize on draft day as Baz Bastien traded away the number one overall draft pick. They had to wait until 15th to draft Bob Errey. Bastien died in March 1983, Hakansson was traded to the LA Kings that September for the rights to Kevin Stevens.
@mike2590rrr
@mike2590rrr 6 ай бұрын
Meh, I'd argue, and usually do, the burnsie trade isn't the worst trade in the history of the franchise. Got a serviceable Coyle, Seto (who was a good potential forward, but never amounted to much) and Zack Phillips, who, as a late 1st rounder, couldn't be expected to be much as most NHL draftees amount to nothing. Should have done the Barker trade for Leddy/Johansson. That one hurt deep for Wild fans, especially since Leddy was part of team that won the cup. This was just the start to fletcher fucking the team over for years to come, outside a certain 5th round draft pick. An alternative would have been Nino for Rask or even the Martin Hanzal and Ryan White trade deadline deal that was so fucking stupid and a waste of draft picks to, yet again, lose in the 1st round.
@michaeldipietro5010
@michaeldipietro5010 6 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, you didn't highlight the Caps Forsberg for Erat in a one-for-one. Another trade the Caps were involved in was for Dale Hunter and Clint Malarchuk from Quebec. In return, the Capitals gave up center Alan Haworth, left-wing Gaetan Duchesne, and their first-round pick of that year. That first round pick was used on drafting none other than Joe Sakic.
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
sakic was a mid round first to act like they traded him is dumb he wasnt a top 5 pick if it was id agree .... u traded the 15th overall pick not sakic thats liike saying hey my team traded a 4th round pick and these guys drafted a good player tha mmeans its a bad trade
@michaeldipietro5010
@michaeldipietro5010 6 ай бұрын
@@lilwoodiewood3457 I get what you are saying. However, my point was based on the player Sakic would become. Now, I probably can guess the Caps would not have drafted him, but it's a thought of him playing in DC.
@leavemanycredits
@leavemanycredits 5 ай бұрын
Erat for Forsburg was the worst trade in Capitals (and maybe NHL) history, period
@leavemanycredits
@leavemanycredits 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but Hunter had more than a good enough Caps career where you don't say OMG WTF was that trade???
@michaeldipietro5010
@michaeldipietro5010 5 ай бұрын
@@leavemanycredits not the NHL. Edmonton and Gretzky fans would monolithically beg to differ.
@111oooo
@111oooo 6 ай бұрын
As much as I hated to see Sittler go (and McDonald for that matter due to awful and vindictive ownership and management) I think two trades are worse. Giving up the draft pick that turned into Scott Niedermeyer and trading Rask for Rycroft
@eandrade1629
@eandrade1629 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but the Leafs wouldn't have picked Niedermayer, they would have picked a bum
@NEZLeader
@NEZLeader 4 ай бұрын
RayCrap
@haysbrickell9579
@haysbrickell9579 2 ай бұрын
I agree. The Rask for Rycroft deal was the worst in Leafs history.
@Skywalker0G
@Skywalker0G 6 ай бұрын
Spot on for the Devils. Never got to see Verbeek, but from what I've heard from the old timer Devils fans/seen from old games is that he was really solid for us. Numbers don't lie, he's 7th all time in goals for the franchise. In general, he had 522 G/540 A/1062 P for his career. I think he would've been a great offensive piece on the cup teams for sure.
@user-ye3rd4er2v
@user-ye3rd4er2v 6 ай бұрын
Turgeon had 30 goals in his one season with the Devils and was then traded for Claude Lemeiux who would be a huge contributor to the Devils success as well as a Conn Smythe trophy winner for the Devils. If that's the Devils worst trade they've done well for themselves. IMO what a team does with draft picks and/or the players acquired have to be considered, not just the initial players' career stats.
@Skywalker0G
@Skywalker0G 6 ай бұрын
@@user-ye3rd4er2v oh man I completely forgot he was part of the trade that brought Claude to NJ. Also I completely agree. It’s just a nice “what if” question for Devils history.
@Robdammit
@Robdammit 6 ай бұрын
I'd say a close second would be the Kovulchuk trade. That's mainly because he walked but only after he stayed long enough to make sure we couldn't lock up Parise. Seeing Parise walk hurt my heart although I was happy to see him play close to his home.
@Skywalker0G
@Skywalker0G 6 ай бұрын
@@Robdammit oh I completely agree, trading for Kovalchuk in the long run is what honestly set us back. Ultimately for 5 seasons at that (Hall did drag the Devs to the playoffs in 2017/18). Like you said, getting him also caused us to not be able to lock up Zach Parise which absolutely hurt (at the very least, he did go back home so I definitely wasn’t mad when he left). Then another factor was Marty and Elias getting older, 2 cornerstones of the franchise. Kovalchuk leaving in his prime after getting one of the biggest paydays in league history though was definitely the biggest factor. Sucks because he was my first favorite player too lolol.
@v1LL2n
@v1LL2n 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@RobdammitI still have nightmares about that contract, we also lost draft picks on top of that….
@kevinmassey1164
@kevinmassey1164 6 ай бұрын
I’m not even a Bruins fan and I can tell this is done by someone that just noticed Thornton was drafted by Boston and thought …”wow huge mistake moving him”
@kevinmassey1164
@kevinmassey1164 5 ай бұрын
Exactly….
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 ай бұрын
And yet they won 2 Cups after the trade and Thornton retired with none.
@kevaninthe4135
@kevaninthe4135 2 ай бұрын
When Joe Thornton got traded it was a shock around the league because nobody knew he was available, that part of the trade was bad. Its level of bad is blunted by 2011.
@dougosullivan7111
@dougosullivan7111 6 ай бұрын
What has Fleury done for the teams he's been traded, got vegas to the finals than choked in a must win game 4 where he should've been almost impossible to beat. Then the following year he gave up 4 goals in the span of 10 minutes blowing a 3 goal lead and letting in one in ot losing the game and series, everyone makes the excuse that it was because of the sharks powerplay, but it's common knowledge that your goalie is supposed to be your 1 penalty killer, then he followed that up with that horrible turnover in a game that they were under 1 minute away from winning, and gave Montreal all the confidence they needed to eliminate them. What did he do before the trade, won 1 cup then lead the pens to four 1st round exits in 6 years, then got pulled after a game and a half of the first rd so Murray could go in and lead the pens to a cup destroying Fleurys best numbers in the process, than Fleury got pulled the next year and Murray again lead the pens to another cup. Fleury is the most overrated goalie in the nhl, 3 separate head coaches have lost complete confidence in him for the playoffs, he's lost his starting role numerous times, his atrocious puck handling skills has cost teams plsyoff series and Canada gold at the WJC, and his rebound control is absolutely horrible. Very strong pens and Vegas teams have made him look better than he is, and it'll be a sad day if he passes a true legend in the pre shootout era Patrick Roy
@alyssinwilliams4570
@alyssinwilliams4570 2 ай бұрын
re: Flames trade Yes, thank you. So many other similar lists will cite the trade of Iginla, which was pretty terrible. But this trade in 1992 set the team back over a decade at least.
@neseirf70
@neseirf70 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you should do a best deals/trades . I would think one of if not the top of the list for best deal would be Detroit getting Selke trophy winning Kris Draper from Winnipeg for $1 !
@danmrn16
@danmrn16 29 күн бұрын
Boston Trading Joe Thorton was bad but you could easily argue that the Tyler Seguin trade was worse. He was one of the great young stars in the league Bruins got Loui Erickson, Riley Smith Matt Frazier., and first round draft bust Joe Morrow
@Starroftheshow
@Starroftheshow 6 ай бұрын
Seguin trade was way worse for bruins. Stuart and primeau were traded in same deal to Calgary for ference and kobasew, kobasew was later flipped to Minnesota for picks and minor leaguers, they then flipped some of those assets to Florida for seidenberg, ference and seidenberg were massive pieces to the 2011 cup. In the Seguin deal they basically got nothing, lost all assets for nothing.
@nathanzink5283
@nathanzink5283 6 ай бұрын
How dare you speak ill of Ryan Button!
@Starroftheshow
@Starroftheshow 6 ай бұрын
@@nathanzink5283 sir he went with Seguin to Dallas
@eggstu
@eggstu 6 ай бұрын
100% correct choice for the Avs. That Drury trade still haunts my dreams
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
u know what this guy got wrong tho .he made a video on the eric lindros trade but forget to mention how it lead to the aves getting forsberg via one of the draft picks and roy by trading one fo the draft picks from th elindros trade
@JABoyle3875
@JABoyle3875 6 ай бұрын
The Nordiques did not get Forsberg through one of the draft picks in the trade. He was already drafted by Philadelphia.
@paulbarron9745
@paulbarron9745 Ай бұрын
San Jose never capitalized on the Thornton trade though. He helped bring them to the playoffs, but never more than that.
@smiffyOG
@smiffyOG 6 ай бұрын
Love this channel. Cheers from the interior of BC
@orebrotribune8302
@orebrotribune8302 6 ай бұрын
Interesting list, but I still think Anaheim's Selanne trade sounds like a good deal considering they later drafted Perry because of the trade. Then I want to point out that when Chicago traded Alexei Zhamnov, they got several role players who helped win the Stanley Cup with the team :)
@lilwoodiewood3457
@lilwoodiewood3457 6 ай бұрын
its a dumb list dont trust this channel hey ade a video about the eric lindro s trade but didnt mention how quebec got forsberg in it no effort is put into this
@orebrotribune8302
@orebrotribune8302 6 ай бұрын
@@lilwoodiewood3457 Hmmm, that's strange. Colorado basically built its entire dynasty on the Lindros trade. Thanks for the heads up.
@daveblock4061
@daveblock4061 3 ай бұрын
Your unfamiliarity with the Hasek trade shows. He was not going to play for Buffalo anymore and would not let Detroit get stripped to be uncompetitive. He brokered the deal. And why are you showing Lanny McDonald when talking about Darryl Sittler?
@HereComesTheStormTrooper
@HereComesTheStormTrooper 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Habs fan, Patrick Roy's trade still hurts 30 years later, and is not even mentionned here... Sad for Fleury, but hey, Vegas got the Cup, hard to consider it a bad trade.
@DanC2352
@DanC2352 6 ай бұрын
that 90s pens team was my fav..stevens, samuelson, jagr, mario....they need to bring back them jerseys with the grey strip tho
@Rodanguirus
@Rodanguirus Ай бұрын
A few Original Six era trades were worse for the Wings. My pick would be losing prime Ted Lindsay and Glenn Hall in one swoop and getting peanuts in return. The fact GM Adams had justified trading away Sawchuk 2 years prior by pointing to the fact the Wings had Hall makes it all the more disastrous.
@jefffuller9918
@jefffuller9918 5 ай бұрын
Friesen won the cup in '03 with the Devils. They beat the Ducks in the finals and was credited with the game winning goal in game 7
@KptKrunch9481
@KptKrunch9481 4 ай бұрын
Calgary trade - may be trumped with the Huberdeau / Tkachuk trade - but that trade nearly caused me to rearend someone as I saw it on a billboard on Mcleod Trail. Gary Leeman had 50 goals the previous year - but 13 I believe were empty net goals IIRC - I know he set a record for EN goals that year. The trade was made by Cliff Fletcher who just went to TO from Calgary and Risebrough who was Cliffs understudy in Calgary and took over GM duties when Fletcher left. Obviously Doug trusted Cliff implicitly and got taken to the cleaners but at least he redeemed himself when he went to Minne to be the GM there
@sarkisiangeorge
@sarkisiangeorge 2 ай бұрын
The worst trade in Chicago Black Hawks history. Consider this May 15, 1967 trade. Chicago traded Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge and Fred Stanfield to Boston for Pit Martin, Gilles Marotte and Jack Norris. Nothing else comes close.
@user-yz3fy9of1f
@user-yz3fy9of1f 6 ай бұрын
Good video and I learned some things - even though I have followed the game quite closely since the 1970s. You are a young guy - one can go back another 20 years (or more) and find many more bad trades, for one: Ken Hodge for Rick Middleton ("Nifty") - this was a Ranger debacle. I believe the Joe Thorton was bad as you highlighted -because none of the players the Bs got in return stuck very long. However, I love Joe - but he was a perimeter player and like a Tony Romo - great player and person...but never gonna get you the coveted ring. Oh and you missed perhaps the worst trade in sports history and it was the NHL: Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat! At the time, I thought it was a hoax! I mean, here was an extremely high draft pick , not played a game yet with the team that selected him and was traded for a glorified grinder. I also blame the Caps owner for allowing it - horrendous! Thank you George McPhee! The debacle of all time!!!!!
@itsjustme1616
@itsjustme1616 6 ай бұрын
Something I think is lost in this scenarios is the players thriving in other locations isn’t just because the player turned out to be good. The found the right people to bring out their full potential. It’s like talking about guys that left bands right before they became famous. It’s usually that missing piece that is the catalyst to their greatness. It’s not a given that their greatness would’ve been achieved if things didn’t change. Just food for thought.
@apackperday
@apackperday 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Chris Drury is an East Coast kinda guy and he wanted to go back "home". He didn't like playing 3C minutes in Colorado, and made it known he wasn't happy here. He wanted/demanded a bigger role, but he wasn't going to supplant Sakic and Forsberg. Who did he think he was kidding?
@secard4202
@secard4202 2 ай бұрын
Joe T was traded and then played his first game against the Sabres and clanked one off the pipe in the first 5 seconds. I was at the game and wanted to leave because I knew he was gonna be unstoppable that night and they crushed.
@deliriousdrew1193
@deliriousdrew1193 4 ай бұрын
The Ducks worse trade is one that saw them eventually get the player back plus a Hart/Richard Trophy winner AND a Stanley Cup. Every team should be so unfortunate.
@Yokes27
@Yokes27 6 ай бұрын
Flyers should of been trading Bob to C-bus for I think a 3rd rounder. Bum Homer Holmgren traded him after signing Bryz to some ridiculous contract like 9 or 10 years for like $50 mil.
@michelleleeginger5225
@michelleleeginger5225 5 ай бұрын
Couple of things you missed 1) Vancouver traded Kris Draper to the DRW for $1. 2) As a DRW fan I can tell you with certainty that Robert Lang was an absolute bust in Detroit, yeah he was making play-off runs courtesy of the talent surrounding him.
@alwillk
@alwillk 4 ай бұрын
It was actually Winnipeg.
@michelleleeginger5225
@michelleleeginger5225 4 ай бұрын
@@alwillk oops.
@BigMac785
@BigMac785 Ай бұрын
@@alwillkgonna comment this.
@duds5099
@duds5099 3 ай бұрын
I’m suprised you didn’t use the Tom Kurvers trade against Toronto, as they not only gave up Scott Niedermayer (or potentially Lindros) but also lost Brian Bradley, the guy they traded Kurvers for the year after; meaning they gave up the 3rd overall pick for nothing.
@hockeynightinbelmont9176
@hockeynightinbelmont9176 3 ай бұрын
CHICAGO - 1967-May-15 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge and Fred Stanfield to Boston Bruins for Gilles Marotte, Hubert "Pit" Martin and Jack Norris. DETROIT: 1975-Jun-23 Rights traded from Detroit Red Wings Marcel Dionne& Bart Crashley to Los Angeles Kings for Terry Harper, Dan Maloney and round 2 pick in the 1976 draft (Jim Roberts). NY Rangers 1976-May-26 Traded from Boston Bruins Ken Hodge to New York Rangers for Rick Middleton. PITTSBURGH: 1977-Nov-29 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins Pierre Larouche & Peter Marsh to Montreal Canadiens for Peter Lee and Pete Mahovlich. HARTFORD 1982-Aug-19 Traded from Hartford Whalers Mark Howe round 3 pick in the 1983 draft (Derrick Smith) to Philadelphia Flyers for Ken Linseman, Greg Adams, round 1 pick in the 1983 draft (David Jensen) and round 3 pick in the 1983 draft (Leif Karlsson). VANCOUVER 1980-Feb-18 Traded from Vancouver Canucks Bill Derlago & Rick Vaive to Toronto Maple Leafs for Jerry Butler and Dave "Tiger" Williams.
@m00rtin4
@m00rtin4 10 күн бұрын
johansen for seth jones is not so simple to call it a slam dunk loss in retrospect for the preds. yes he was overpaid, overrated etc etc. but he had pretty stable production overall for the preds. seth jones had some good seasons in cbj aswell. but im not sure his time in chicago and his contract there can justify the value between the players.... very intresting trade tho
@tespiii
@tespiii 6 ай бұрын
I was anticipating for the infamous Poegge for Rask trade..
@HarbingerOfBattle
@HarbingerOfBattle 4 ай бұрын
Personally I would have gone with Toronto's Tom Kurvers trade. (Details below) October, 1989: Toronto is basically treading water and has no real hope for the short term future, but trade a future 1st round pick to New Jersey for a defender named Tom Kurvers. November 1990: Toronto is still awful, but maybe if they keep losing they can snag Eric Lindros in next year's draft. Except no, because that's pick they traded for Tom Kurvers. (oops!) Realizing their mistake, the Leafs try to pull a fast one and trade a couple 2nd round picks to the Nordiques for some anti-tanking veterans. January, 1991: Tom Kurvers doesn't workout and is traded to Vancouver for a center, Brian Bradley. 1991 NHL Draft: Toronto breaths a sigh of relief. New Jersey is stuck with the 3rd overall pick and Lindros is taken 1st overall (by the Nordiques...who he refuses to play for.) Jersey uses their pick to draft...Scott Niedermayer (oops!) 1992 Expansion Draft: Brian Bradley is taken by the Tampa Bay Lightning. Kurvers: Becomes NHL Assistant General Manager Bradley: Becomes first star player of the Lightning Lindros: Hall of Fame Niedermayer: Hall of Fame and 4x Stanley Cup Champion Toronto: As a result of the Tom Kurvers trade, nothing.
@Rustywantsu269
@Rustywantsu269 6 ай бұрын
kinda funny that Vegas had fleury the first year and went to the cup and lost and now has Hill and won so I'd say no it wasn't a bad trade just wish Fleury would have worked out
@MrStkrdknmibalz9799
@MrStkrdknmibalz9799 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Boston regretted the Thornton trade, they went on to win a cup, and Joe retired without ever getting his name on it. It stung at the time with the rather lopsided return and seeing how much individual success he was having with the Sharks, but it could be argued Boston would have never gotten the right pieces they needed to eventually go on to win it all if they still had him.
@Chrisman77
@Chrisman77 6 ай бұрын
I was checking the comments to see if anyone had already said this. Chara and Savard both don't happen if we still had Joe
@MrStkrdknmibalz9799
@MrStkrdknmibalz9799 6 ай бұрын
@@Chrisman77 I agree 100% You could go a step further, and I hate saying it because I liked Savard so much, but maybe if he hadn't gotten injured, the Bruins wouldn't have the cap space from LTIR, and again, wouldn't have been able to get the right pieces for the cup run. Chiarelli eventually turned into a total bonehead, but back then he did an excellent job with FA signings and trades to build a winning team. But without a doubt, Savard was an integral piece in bringing the Bruins back to a contender post Thornton era, especially since Bergeron was missing so much time with concussion issues.
@nicholasjakubowicz
@nicholasjakubowicz 5 ай бұрын
dude, you did not mention that burns started as a forward with the wild, and was switching position. he was not yet a star player, but was coming into his own. then with other sharks D men turned into the cornerstone of their defense.
@rathofturkey
@rathofturkey 2 ай бұрын
While that Neal for Goligoski trade was pretty bad, and it’s nothing against Goligoski because I liked him as a Dallas Star, I can think of a much worse trade which ironically also involves Joe Nieuwendyk. The Nieuwendyk-Langenbrunner trade for Arnott-McKay-1stRDP. We got mediocre years out of Arnott, McKay was injury plagued and that 1stRDP wound up getting wasted on Ron Tugnutt. Meanwhile the Devils would win a 3rd Stanley Cup In their 4th appearance of that Decade.
@markmott1104
@markmott1104 6 ай бұрын
Remember with the Edmonton Oilers Wayne Gretzky is the one who asked for the trade so really you guys should dig deeper and try to find a worse trade that that team did because it's not their fault that their star player wants to move on for more money
@Freedom_84
@Freedom_84 6 ай бұрын
patrick roy wasnt traded. He wanted to leave because he was being treated like crap by his coach. i still remember watching the detroit vs montreal game where the coach left Roy in the game after detroit had scored like 6-7 goals. when he finially pulled Roy, Roy walked over to the coach (cant recall his name), and told him he quit.
@BigMac785
@BigMac785 Ай бұрын
Coach was Pom Pom. Mario Tremblay. But he went to the president or executive sitting front row. Ronald Corey. I think.
@danielflynn8530
@danielflynn8530 6 ай бұрын
Well I was more upset about the Tyler Seguin deal rather than Joe Thornton
@gleniogoalhornsstudios
@gleniogoalhornsstudios 6 ай бұрын
35:14 I am still surprised that Kelly Mckrimmon hasn't been fired after the Flurey trade. Showing a GM can get away with these kinds of trades, especially if the team wins the cup the following year.
@rectalespionagesailboat4819
@rectalespionagesailboat4819 2 ай бұрын
The Flyers trading Hartnell does not even SCRAPE the barrel of bad Flyers trades. Justin Williams to Carolina for Danny Markov? Patrick Sharpe to Chicago for virtually nothing? And that's not even getting to the Lindros trade which, if you really evaluate 'what they gave for what they got' has to arguably be the worst trade anyone has ever made in NHL history. (not taking away from Lindros - he was amazing, but that trade defined a decade of success for Colorado and a decade of coming up short for Philly)
@super8bitvideos
@super8bitvideos 6 ай бұрын
Id argue the Avs trading for Theodore was their worst. It was a trade and contract that set the Avs back 10 years, and they were only roughly 10 years established at the time.
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