The Worst Trains Ever Montage (Parts 1-5) | History in the Dark

[@Ryebread1945]

Mr dark, did you hear about your fellow youtuber. Thunderbolt 1000 mother's passing

[@choossuck7653]

Oh wow. RIP 🙏🙏🙏

[@fanofeverything30465]

R.I.P Thunderbolt1000's mother

[@kittensinmittens2010]

Wow did not know that.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

I firmly believe that at this point, just the mention of British Rail is enough to give History a PTSD attack.

[@_molls]

Why do I see you everywhere 😭 Not complaining, just think it’s funny

[@True_NOON]

Look for me under his vids in the comments :)

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

British Rail

[@theromanorder]

please do a video on the porters steam loco the Japanese class d5, the Chinese QJ 2,10,2 or just exsamples of asian trains how do gear trains work something on saddle bolier and side tanks (like the big water boxes) tank engines double ended diesel trains (and electric) eletric trains American and European switches other then the British class 07-09 what to do if the train stalls one talking about the different types of steam funnles and there uses, a video on steam locomotive combination breaks (steam and vacuum brakes) a short video on how a Armstrong turn table works what did train flagman do what did trains (mostly steam) do when going in tunnels, ive heard of gas masks or just useing a wet cloth, or did they bring in other engines like later on they used electric trains, or were there no bigv tunnels. evaluation of electric trains why are some trains wagion tops (the stream lining thing to boilers) railway terms abd slang one on the meaning of flag and lantern colors like green on rear engine means theres another one coming soon, the different types of cut offs/reversers/Johnson bar some are a big lever, some are a big valve wheel, and ive also seen some that are like rods, one exsample is train sim world 3 and im not sure where to find the other reverser and how much water do steam trains take usually, and how much would the crew drink

[@philipdancause7590]

Hi HID, good knowledgeable posts. Regarding the Baldwin 210, It was built on spec for the New Haven RR, so part of the design is it had to be able to use overhead electricity on the NH's main line, diesel for the non-electrified part beyond New Haven, and third rail for sharing the New York Central main line into Grand Central Terminals. The tunnels into GCT were electric only, not even diesels were permitted (you could idle a diesel thru the tunnels but propulsion of any train in the tunnels had to be electric). So the design was complex anyway and then the NH went bankrupt shortly after commissioning it, so there was no chance they would buy it in quantity even if it was spectacular.

[@philipdancause7590]

A couple comments on the preponderance of BR classes--BR decided in the late 1950s to dieselize allatoncerightaway...so every mechanical firm in GB decided they should try and sell diesel locos to BR. BR, being a friendly nationalized company decided, sure, we'll buy some of everything! You'll recall this did not work well when the Pennsy and the New York Central tried it in the late 1940s, and the same problems occurred here: you have many companies attempting to construct diesel locos with no experience at all; and in some cases not even using their own engines or drivetrains. Now it's easy to build a working diesel locomotive, but it's much harder to build one that will reliably survive the rigors of the vibrations and varying loads of active railroading. This tripped up every single BR class you've referenced--all these firms built locomotives, but none of them had any idea how to make them stand up to the rigors of daily railroading. There was a learning curve of, oh, about 15 years... And then there's also the stupidity factor--take the Class 41 for example--it was supposed to be the same as the Class 43, but it was built by North British Loco Works instead of Swindon bc of government fiat. Yet the Class 41s had much worse reliability...why? Because it turns out NBL didn't carry the metric conversion out to enough figures for accurate precision, and they were building engines and transmissions based on German Metric designs!!!! That's right up there with Baldwin putting their electrical cabinets on their Centipedes right under the oil filter chamber. You don't suppose that an oil filter chamber might ever leak, do you?

[@Mariazellerbahn]

Nothing at all wrong with the APT except that the government pulled the plug on the funding. Bad publicity from people that knew absolutely nothing about it also helped its demise.

[@lonewolf4215]

In fairness to bullied initially wanting to stick with steam it was because at the time just after ww2 we still had plenty of coal to mine, diesel fuel was expensive to import and the country was broke, so steam was in the short term the gest option

[@haydendegrow945]

glad to see Darkness listened. In response, though? This is what happens when you have too much of a good thing... um, actually, where's that backspace button...

[@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd]

Be careful what you wish for 😅😅😅😅

[@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos]

Well time to grab some popcorn

[@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos]

And thus Began a slow descent into madness and insanity : )

[@Mariazellerbahn]

After your dig at the BR Pacer trains being Leyland bus bodies on a two axle chassis, you completely failed to mention that the GM Aerotrain also consisted of GM bus bodies on two axle chassis. Also that there were lots of automobile body pressings on the locomotive that incidentally only put power down through the front bogie (truck).

[@michaelimbesi2314]

Do “the 5 best British Rail diesel locomotives” and see if there’s even a single one on there that’s actually fully British (i.e. was designed in Britain, and built in Britain, by a British company.)

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

Class 43 comes to mind

[@obelic71]

I think the Pacer who is a TURD of a DMU doesn't deserve this list.. Yes it had the passenger comfort of a Fakir bed of nails and was 10% better then a draisine you had to power for yourself. As an utilitarian rail transport it worked and kept on running.

[@Snowy1of1]

How lovely to see the pacer that travels between Blackpool and Colne via Preston. Its a single track from Rosegrove through to Colne, one crossing the train has to stop at a phone box conveniently placed at window height to have the crossing ahead closed to cars. When I had to commute to Lancaster daily from Colne, it was a 1.5 hour trip without the wait at Preston where I would change to either the slow Morecambe train which had to travel behind the Virgin one or if lucky, hop on the Virgin one for 1 stop. Yes the train was hourly arriving at end of line Colne. Once upon a time it used to follow through to Skipton, but that line was ripped up like many others. I have several memories of standing on the track having a leak because the poor Pacer had broke down, always on the way home and oddly at roughly same place, go figure. Not comfortable at all, I suppose was a step up from walking! Oh I loved how it shook and rocked and yes as shown, it was quite rough. Those that know the route also will know the Aquaduct at Accrington and the several minutes of screeching due to the tightness of corner and the I guess fixed bogies.

[@hmalbet]

Question: Why do British locos look so much different from their American counterparts?...thinking of the Pacifics but many others come to mind.

[@philipdancause7590]

The loading gauge is immensely different. US locos could be like 3 feet taller and a foot wider than UK locos. That was the biggest contributor. Also, Great Britain never had super-long freight trains, so didn't need gigantically powerful freight locos.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

American locomotives could be taller, wider, longer, and heavier than British ones. Additionally, British railways typically had much more passenger traffic and much less freight than American ones, so that affected the designs of locomotives. And Britain was also much, much poorer than America in the postwar era, so British postwar stuff tends to be very ugly because they couldn’t afford to make it look nice. And of course, Britain couldn’t afford to upgrade its railway infrastructure, so British locomotives had to stay short enough to fit into Victorian era stations, roundhouses, and turntables because British Rail couldn’t actually afford to upgrade any of them.

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Who would win in a fight: History In The Dark VS British Railways Jokes aside really enjoyed this series. Recognized a few locomotives but this was my first time experincing a lot of them. Really cool seeing history like this! So which one out of all the lists would you consider the absolute WORST? Also glad no shade was thrown at The Railway Series/Thomas & Friends. Some railfans DETEST the franchise, so I'm glad your videos don't have anything against it. After all it got me into trains in general.

[@harrisonallen651]

The worst of the worst

[@anthonyhunt701]

Darkness.. i’m enjoying this in saga form lol😂( plus, British Rail’s desires exceeded their financial brief from the exchequer.) i.e. : no money to carry out wishes lol.. ( more like this please good sir?)

[@dr.b0973]

Gee i wonder why the Aero Train was underpowered, maybe bc the geniuses at GM just modified the Sw1200 switcher and made that the power car 🤦🤦

[@Ppppmaisad]

E2 problem is not coal bunker but it's the fire box or the boiler because other engine with the same capacity to hold coal just work fine 1:12:32

[@MrSleepy677]

Part 26 Worst trains list when?

[@Lamp_2155]

When he researches a new br diesel 😂

[@robertwilloughby8050]

@@Lamp_2155 I'm still gunning for the Class 27. Not that they were terrible at first, but they aged like room temperature milk. And the fact that their slightly less powerful brothers, the Class 26's lasted quite a bit longer is the nail in the coffin for me. (And the 27's were also RIDDLED with asbestos!).

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

​@@robertwilloughby8050I shall also nominate the first thirty Class 56s for that (the ones built by Electroputere)

[@robertwilloughby8050]

@@Danse_Macabre_125 Oh yeah! The gas pipe used as electrical conduiting engines. Weirdly, though, one of the Electroputere 30 - 56 014 - had a glowing reputation, which goes to prove the "stopped clock" theory, I suppose.....

[@fanofeverything30465]

I wouldn't be surprised if Part 25 was the last part of Worst Trains Ever

[@georgelawrence9308]

Your videos are amazing,however,Engine,Engine,Engine,Engine……

[@CindyHarris-rd4gb]

Every time you bring up the British diesel locomotives and how crappy they are all that pops into my mind is what Tow- Matter said about British motors; if there's no oil under them then there's no oil in them.

[@blainemilliron3870]

on the aerotrain remember it was made by GM not EMD they were like a concipe car I rember one was shone at the LA county fair they were art deco at a time cars had big fins and this was from auto desiners it could have been beter but to look as something of the future

[@trainglen22]

Poor History, the anxiety of dealing with the British rail locomotives and Baldwin diesel locomotives.

[@robthegobbler]

This will be great for distracting myself through psychosis. Awesome. Update: still helping.

[@massmike11]

High pressure steam does work. An Iowa class ship run 600 psi. But i think that is because it has turbines

[@True_NOON]

The 25 worst trains of all time Place 26 are the IETs

[@moelSiabod14334]

You have to think of Leader as a proof of concerpt, O V Bullied has previous form for thinking outside the box. Leader was an attempt to build a loco that could work a medium-sized trainto a tight timetable, work into and out of terminus stations without the need for turning . The boiler for its size offered outstanding steam output and offered all welded construction , the six cylinders layout gave outstanding amounts of power it was the sleeve valve gear which crippled them because metallurgy of the time could not hold it all together . Had it been a little more conventional with some of its design parameters it could well have been the next step for one branch of loco design.

[@AutZentus]

Alternate title: Darkness vs British Rail

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

59:00 I think the front looks like an emo teen.

[@dannyh.s.1936]

1:02:56 The reason why the Areotrain was underpowered is that GM used an EMD SW1200(?) locomotive as the basis for the power car.

[@algiefeatherstonehaugh1091]

I rode the APT on a round trip from Glasgow to London in 1984. The journey time was less than 4 hours and the train ride was wonderful! Today's fastest scheduled train takes 4 hours 39 minutes.

[@leelishman7137]

The class 22 were very reliable come the mid 60s till 1972. Glad you pointed that out,take your point about on delivery, but they did come into a world of poor diesel maintenance facilities and steam crews not used to how to maintain them. They were only withdrawn because they were non standard diesel hydraulic,not diesel electric BR Class 28 Co Bo was an interesting 2 stroke design,but only one has survived,the one that was used on tribology/ research trains for a while,though after many years is still under restoration

[@16rumpole]

I hope you are a military veteran,. The VA has a lot of programs that would help you deal with your British Rail induced PTSD.

[@DavidA.-bv8xy]

The Leader Class: British Rail's version of Jawn Henry?

[@dansweet6793]

I come here for the British Rail meltdowns. They are just entertaining and I love trains

[@fanofeverything30465]

Nice to hear the Railroad Tycoons music again

[@catboyandwolfgirl4545]

I feel like the P40F should be on the list of engines designed to kill

[@highbrow2373]

A55 when it hears "you gotta move "

[@KimiWallrus]

1:30 Thomas and friends moment 😉

[@rpmillam]

Why not look at the BR class 33

[@davedear929]

Don't lose any sleep over your British railways choises . I'm old enough to say i was there at the time and i totally agree with you. Many thanks for the videos.

[@Ppppmaisad]

Thomas is not an e2 class Thomas is short and e2 are long and Thomas only have the front slope running board and the e2 have all slope running board and other stuff is different from e2