The Worst Wood To Build With

[@FernandoGarcia-kq3fw]

Sawyer! Cam, I'm new to woodworking. Can you explain why the higher moisture makes this piece "unusable as a table"? I get that the table top won't be perfectly flat but is it really that extreme? Thanks in advance.

[@BlacktailStudio]

That’s a great question and the effects can vary a lot. This piece with small pockets of moisture will probably get pockets of cell collapse where there will be small depressions, which could even crack over time. Larger areas of wet wood would likely lead to cupping/twisting as well as cracks. All of that said, this piece would likely be flat enough for many people and function fine as a table. Any reputable woodworker wouldn’t be satisfied with a table like this though. I could potentially wait this piece out, or kiln dry it, resurface it, and have a perfect table. That might not work though, and would be a big time commitment from me. So instead I’m cutting my losses and using it as a wall piece instead. Hope this helps!

[@somethingelse4424]

@@BlacktailStudio I'm not a woodworker, so I'm just spit balling here. What if you take it back to the CNC and mill off 1\8th inch to open the grain up, and then put it in a kiln on a very low setting for a long period? Maybe you can cook off that moisture, depending on how deep epoxy penetrates into end grain.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

In addition to Cam's response, any project using Epoxy Resin should be as dry as possible since Resin HATES moisture/water with a truly Unholy Passion... If your wood is too damp, the Resin will not Cure properly and will likely crack as it cures...

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

@@somethingelse4424 You would need to do that before adding the Resin as the Resin will penetrate much deeper than that and with how thoroughly Cam sealed this wood, kiln drying won't do much since there's nowhere for the moisture to escape from without blowing out a portion of the resin... Epoxy Resin is a plastic once it hardens and finishes curing...

[@puppykicker7106]

NOT IF U DONT WANT A FLAT TABLE xTREME

[@tattootempest]

I know I'm commenting on an old video, but I am working my way backwards through your videos, and you saying you would NEVER make the mistake of not checking the wood moisture again, after I just watched a newer video of that happening again just made me chuckle a little when you said that in this video :)

[@ssmallishplague]

Same here lol came to see if anyone had pointed that out 🎉

[@SawyerDesign]

Thanks for teaming up with me on this one, Cam! A really beautiful bummer, but I have a feeling we’ll get a chance at redemption. Loved the edit and appreciate the love!

[@paulvenn4447]

That bottom stand you did was awesome! Keen to see what it ends up going on.

[@walkerscustomcountertops3144]

Beautiful stand . You’ve earned this follow.

[@kevinbuiied]

It does look very beautiful! I look forward to any collabs.

[@socalstr]

It’s clear Sawyer cared at least as much as Cam for the craft and end product. That kind of self-expectation leads to success every time.

[@BlacktailStudio]

Ya man! We’ll get it right eventually

[@syedateeq9518]

You can make an oversized wall clock out of it. It would look great. Just stick some numbers and a good quartz mechanism. 😎

[@lukthere2]

That's actaully a great idea!

[@billyjamesmaspaitella8405]

I agree

[@raynman6466]

That's honestly an amazing idea, with a good movement and some custom numerals from some fancy metal it would probably sell for double.

[@gr8dvd]

@@douglasthomashayden2566 Or older design, no movement… sundial 😀

[@DLCaster]

I was looking for a place here to make this suggestion. This would in fact make a great and very nice large clock face for something like a ski lodge or hotel with a rustic yet modern design motif. Such an enterprise would have the money to buy such a clock and be glad to have it. Connecting with the right designer, decorator, or architect would be the way to get the full ride out of this piece.

[@timarmstrong2338]

I don't do any large table tops like you do but after seeing this I still might get a moisture meter. It is still a beautiful table, and 9 out of 10 people would never know it has a problem unless you told them. You pay the price for being an honest perfectionist, and that's one of the reasons so many people watch you. Thanks

[@karenmcvann2557]

I am a 72 year old woman who loves your work, your voice-overs, your end results. I watch things to the end so know the clues SAM and SAWYER. I have an art background so I really appreciate your more complicated projects using resin or live edge tables. The crazier the wood grain, the better. My father was a weekend warrior using a router and radial arm saw and made the HEAVIEST furniture ever! It was all particle board, Formica tops,, Masonite drawers.

[@BYOTools]

Uuuuugh! I feel your pain of the moisture reader. That happens once before to me as well and will never make that mistake again. Thanks for being open and honest with us. We learn for our mistakes.

[@BlacktailStudio]

Absolutely 👊👊

[@samuelbiye2574]

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[@akko2777]

説明・加工工程を見る事が好きです。大好きです。だから飽きる事なんてないし、寧ろ飛ばさないし、倍速を減速してまで見てします。 木目の美しさに嵌まれば、磨きの手間の大変さは身に沁みる。しかし完成品の美しさはそれらを凌駕する。 良い仕事をありがとう。

[@tricia9559]

I’m going to be truthful, I really have no comprehension of the technical things that you do, but I really enjoy your process and the results you get are so elegant and amazing, sending best wishing 🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@BlacktailStudio]

Wow, thanks so much for saying so Tricia!

[@donnamealy4877]

I also really enjoy his honesty and humor. Always a fun show.

[@huuo2496]

The table top is very nice. In general, the base of the table is small, if you replace it with a larger pillar, it will look more solid and beautiful.

[@samuelbiye2574]

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[@gokuswanson2037]

I'm almost 30 and my whole life my father and I have had an awful relationship, we kinda hate each other.... but this, even if only a little bit, gave us something to bond over, neither of us knew the other liked wood working. I found out because we both happen to watch your videos.....

[@donwhitmire978]

Your story would make a good family movie :)

[@BlacktailStudio]

That is the most surprising and nice comment I’ve ever read.

[@gokuswanson2037]

@@BlacktailStudio I never thought you would read this but I'm so glad you did, thank you so much for taking the time and for doing what you do. You seem like a great guy, tons of love and respect for you and the work you put into all of this. I wish you the best!! Sure a mistake was made with this table, but this table is why my comment above exists. I know that's not worth thousands of "friendships" but its worth more than I can say to me (I wanted to buy but the shipping to my country is insane)

[@ralphturney2125]

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[@franksunderland7039]

Watch "Life as a House" Grab that and keep going. Keep trying it's worth it.

[@fchoxgamer2051]

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[@venouch]

For all of you looking for a closure in this story of a moisturized slab: the ebay listing is gone, but wayback machine has the page recorded. It sold for US $6.200 in 71 bids. This is my payback to the community, no need to thank me :⁠-⁠)

[@jackhibbleriii]

Exactly what I was curious about! Good news!

[@ErockGriffith]

It is a shame that the table did not work out well the bottom piece was very beautiful and the table was exquisite and would’ve been a beautiful dining room table or into a guys cave if he has enough room for it you guys could all sit around the table play cards or just do whatever it’s really sucks but unfortunately we like you said learn from our mistakes

[@mikesharkey2010]

I saw this on the wall of the workshop and first thought was : Clock - for Corporate Lobby, Bank, or possibly Museum or art collection.

[@CF_Joel]

Awesome! Thanks!

[@CF_Joel]

@@mikesharkey2010 OH YEAH!!!!!! That would be the greatest clock EVER!!!

[@ThomasSielaff]

At almost 63 years of age, I have acquired many different hobbies during my life, such as fishing, kayaking, photography, musician, etc... That said, I would LOVE to do what you do. I find it fascinating!

[@Gh0stB34r]

This is literally one of the best channels on youtube...creative, informative, and someone who clearly cares about their craft

[@Golfluvr2008]

Wholly agreed!

[@James_Hough]

The spend on bits rather than router advice is spot on. As long as the router has the power and can spin the bit smoothly, that's all you need. The bits are where a good result comes from.

[@JustRelaxV]

Oh my goodness the patience, you have to create these beautiful pieces, I think people will still want to bid on this piece. ❤

[@tooolboxx]

Details are not boring. In fact, they are what draws me to your videos.

[@Poetry-Reads-and-Writes]

I might never make a table with walnut and epoxy, but this (and all) your videos are pure therapy. Your attention to detail, the visuals and your anecdotes are a creative treat. Much admiration.

[@MariaLopez-nk6cx]

yessss!

[@copycatlyn]

"attention to detail" on the one video that he didn't pay attention to lmao

[@BenjaminPhillips-f4t]

He paid attention to the details, but missed the big picture@@copycatlyn

[@copycatlyn]

brother, my comment is a year old. @@BenjaminPhillips-f4t

[@ashmouse]

Love that you showed us all the hard work and the heartache. Respect! You didn't fail, you learned. Well done, Cam.

[@marcokleiner8795]

I really appreciate your honesty in sharing your experience. the piece was a failure as a tabletop, but you learnt from it and are letting us learn from your mistake. thank you very much

[@TheBloodshire]

Honestly I expect this to still REALLY sell. This is an amazing piece to be proud of. When you're a maker sometimes small mistakes lead to big problems but at the end of the day you made a beautiful piece of art and you shouldn't be hard on yourself as you really did an amazing job.

[@Kaodusanya]

Up to 6500 now so.

[@twocsies]

@@Kaodusanya Winning bid: US $6,200.00

[@MILFSLAYER6969]

Gosh dang I cant wait until I can finally get a house so I can start doing projects like these! Been saving for 4 years with my wife who I met in college. we're 23 now and getting close to that goal! probably one more year and I can finally start some garage tinkering!

[@BlacktailStudio]

Way ahead of me at that age!

[@is6781]

@@tetedur377 what do you do if you earn more than double your Wife, work off the lower income? In which case you have to live in a shitbox. Unfortunately house prices have skyrocketed in the UK making living off one income impossible

[@raynman6466]

@@is6781 all he's saying is don't overreach, start small.

[@claudiosaltara7003]

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[@lannygrade2957]

Does your wife know you are the milf slayer?

[@niranjanchandragiri5202]

Thanks!

[@Imnotplayinganymore]

Sawyer, You help me feel better about my woodworking. I'm constantly making mistakes, going back and forth trying different ways to make something I can be proud of. To see someone else own up to their mistakes and proceed is a great service.

[@ChipBeforePC]

Thank You for always awesome content!! We learn more from our failures than our successes...

[@Izzy-nj1su]

Love the piece! I think it would be pretty cool to see it turned into a big clock with antiqued brass hardware!

[@Reaganstorme1]

Absolutely. I came here to add this exact suggestion. You might another opportunity for collaboration with another maker at the same time. Good luck with the auction!

[@moneymarty1]

Straight up! That would be wicked.

[@FueRent]

or table with a clock inside

[@GetRealwithMike]

Chipping the 2x4s off was classic. I see the mistakes I make when you do them and it makes me more comfortable getting out of my comfort zone. Shit happens and then you learn and fix it. That's what makes your show great to watch. You are human, not perfect. Thanks for that.

[@erikjoven2388]

great vid! and also - simple way to remember viscosity - is that you can just think of it as friction. More viscous=more internal friction=slow moving. Honey is more viscous than water.

[@kindlin]

The actual definition of viscosity is the internal friction of the liquid, so you can exactly think of viscosity as friction, just between liquid, not solids. I don't think gas has a similar property, the gas molecules aren't actually touching most of the time like solids or liquids.

[@BuzzFabs]

I am not a woodworker, I will never be a woodworker, but I LOVE your videos and watch them from start to finish! I think solid wood furniture is absolutely gorgeous and you create absolutely beautiful pieces!

[@manbehindthebeard3213]

Dry ice blasting will actually cause moisture pockets in wood like that. Used to do restoration work and we used it to blast framing after a fire to take all the Charing off of the burnt wood. And we used moisture detectors to check moisture in the house as well after the fire department does their thing and we would have to dry everything out first. Then ice blast it and dry it again. Mostly with industrial dehumidifiers and fans but we still had to dry it after the ice blasting. It may not have sand clean up but you're blasting ice into porous material and in some spots when it's would like that it will blast it into areas that it cannot evaporate fast so it's soaks into the wood. So honestly that might be where your moisture came from.

[@michaelbailey4164]

Dry Ice will not leave moisture behind, it goes directly to a gaseous state without leaving any type of moisture. Hence it is known as dry ice..

[@manbehindthebeard3213]

@@michaelbailey4164 the dry ice will sublimate yes but when you have pockets and some moisture content in the wood what will happen is it will get in those pockets and draw the moisture to it that is already in the wood and it will freeze. In that process it will cause those pockets to retain the moisture in the wood. The ice pellets them self do not cause the moisture. Apparently I didn't explain it well enough. And using talk to text in a rush. But hey you're the expert.

[@michaelbailey4164]

@@manbehindthebeard3213 I learn something everyday :) Thanks

[@ncstudio333]

@@michaelbailey4164 good on you for accepting the explanation!

[@robertpage1068]

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[@manchild122112]

Cam, I want to know your response to this question. Have you ever tried using a vibrator when epoxying your slabs. It would and should eliminate all voids. I'm not saying use the ones for concrete but something more practical like, maybe a electric shaver etc...Names Mark BTW.

[@djvugts5510]

In words of learning this build has been the best. And remember, as you become more expert, you become more critic. The work you guys have done still rises above the average work, mistakes made or not. The world needs hard working people that make nice stuff, not bitter people that make perfect stuff.

[@314Captain]

Sawyer Design pretty much blows my mind with the intricate detail, calculations, and design he puts into his creations. Both you and he are a very small group of wood workers that I subscribe to. Hopefully you guys will collaborate on something in the future.

[@gracequalls9770]

They definitely need to try again, they both have such great work

[@maciekorl]

You should definitely turn it into huge wall clock, with brass/golden/mother of pearl inlays. Additionally, you could reduce weight, by hogging out some material on the back - maybe it would dry a bit more because of that?

[@Zie_carpentry]

😊😊👍

[@tantamounted]

Seeing that piece on the wall, yes, definitely a big wall clock! I've seen clocks like that, they are awesome.

[@andi3426]

The Problem is that this is a plastic table. Wo wooden table could still dry. This table is plastic with wood inside.

[@infowazz]

i initially thought it would be a clock. too perfect for that!!!!

[@charlibar2379]

@@infowazz MM

[@user-cb7uh6ff6l]

Hello, I want to take a moment to praise the audio translated into Brazilian Portuguese. Even though it's recognized as an AI voice, it sounds perfect, just like a Brazilian speaking colloquially in everyday life, with the right tone and emphasis. This is fantastic because it helped me understand what was happening and root for the project, making me watch until the end. I'm sorry the project didn't make it to completion, but that's how we push forward, isn't it? Wishing you all the luck in the world. A big hug from Brazil.

[@fuzznickers]

Sawyer. I've watched many to the end but never actually participated. Wall hanging or not it's still another gorgeous piece created by someone who shares his art and shares his mistakes. Thank you for educating even the likes of this woman, I'm learning so much from you in preparation for creating a one of a kind piece for my home. Now I'm off to buy a moisture metering tool! Keep on creating!

[@danielschmoranz6130]

Sawyer. Thanks for your "brutal" honesty. Really loved the natrual, yet airy / light design of the base. I hope, you'll get your money's worth for your "wall piece" ;-)

[@gr8dvd]

Love to ‘fail’ like this… after 1d (8d to go) current bid $4,561.

[@2410btl]

Fantastic work! These modern techniques and materials give wood an awesome look. My great uncle Wilfred was a design carpenter who worked on the grand stairway on the Titanic and made all the Georgian style furniture in his own home. We rarely see such skill today as apprenticeships are on the decline in many trades, therefore your channel helps many to see the need of bringing those dying skills back.

[@peterhawryluk8430]

First time viewer . Sam, Working with old redwood berrels about 50 years ago i loved keeping it natural . No pun intended . Wood, unless you can or need to make it fit into a conner..I was happy to see your video. 50 years ago a table like your making would have cost $700 and up to $1000.00 . My point is your selling them too cheap. Adjusted for inflation if you learn to do really smooth work a long 8' to 10' × 3' wide cost $2000 a foot. Its the people you market this table to should know how hard these table' are to make. Ive destroyed a peice of wood or two when i was 'learning so try not to stress. Belt sanders with dust bags or direct to a shop vac works great. Good luck in making these videos.I loved watching it. Dont sell youself short. Woodworkers must share ideas .

[@kahleonglam]

Sawyer Your honesty throughout the process and attention to detail have actually brought (I think) most of us to stay put from the start to the end of your videos 😃😎. It may be a bummer, but the finished product is definitely a looker. Looking forward to that upcoming video! Greetings from 🇲🇾🇲🇾

[@stevenstovall]

Sawyer and Cam! Awesome work even with the issues. As soon as I saw that hanging on the wall, I immediately thought it needs hands to be a clock.

[@lendernunez9094]

That’s actually a great idea 😱👌

[@johnjohannemann1220]

Although I am not a woodworker by any means I absolutely love what you guys do. Your honesty, companionship and expertise are worth more than dollars and cents ever could be. Good job to both.

[@danjumet2293]

I REALLY APPRECIATE your honesty on your projects, good or bad! You do some AMAZING WORK! I’m working on my very first epoxy river table!

[@wethepeople3340]

This is not a failure at all, it's just a learning experience. I love your video, I also like working with wood, metals, rock, etc. And the problem could easily be fix if you keep the base and then add metal weights to even it out.

[@brotherpanda3626]

“I buy tools indiscriminately. Never know when I will need them.” I felt that.

[@AnotherWittyUsername.]

Last night my husband asked to borrow my tools because he didn't want to go down to the truck to get his. He couldn't make everything fit back into the box (While asking "Where did you get all this stuff?"), so he went and bought me a bigger toolbox today. Maybe I'll use the little box for tackle. If I fill it really full might get a really nice tackle box!

[@just__dave]

I on the other hand use tools so infrequently that when I do need something, I just go buy one not realizing I already own one (or three).

[@bigbird4481]

@@AnotherWittyUsername. that was a nice gesture

[@Mr.PoopyDoobertPants]

I love this channel. The woodworking, the story telling, and the subtle humor is always top notch.

[@BlacktailStudio]

Glad someone wasn’t horrified by my ‘infant genital mutilation’ (per another comment) joke

[@RNCHFND]

I love it because Cam is gorgeous

[@frankellis907]

Yep warts and all. G'day from downunder.

[@douglasthomashayden2566]

@@BlacktailStudio Some people take themselves too seriously. I like your dry humor.

[@speedhump231]

Lol, we have different definitions of the word subtle...

[@TheAcorner1987]

Dont even build/buy tables but watching this is cathartic, thx for the content bro xo

[@SusiesStitches]

SAWYER CAM WOW I know nothing about any of this but as a fiber artist I appreciate your craftsmanship and yes what a beautiful piece of Wood! I like it better as a wall piece where the design is so much more visible on this angle from a distance. Thank you for showing your craft and tenacity.

[@Hollywood_-uy3is]

the "friendship" banter really tied this video together for me. Even in the face of failure you guys' take it on the chin. ALSO shows how close yall became as friends.

[@ljjackson7106]

Heartbreaking!! The base and top WERE 5 STARS! So sad to learn about the moisture issue overlooked. Lesson Learned. NEVER GIVE UP! Beautiful Collab guys!!!

[@idonwantella2824]

I absolutely love your work. Most of all, I love how you are not carrying the camera around while you are actually working. You commentary and advice is second to none.

[@pamelagauper7749]

Even with a high moisture content, the table is absolutely gorgeous!

[@dottiemathews6853]

it is friday night, i just washed and put conditioner in my hair and i am looking at this fabulous video because i LOVE woodworking videos where epoxy is used with it. That table is phenomenal!! LOVE IT!! YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN THIS SWEETIE!

[@WesJester]

Sawyer. Cam, I love how you are willing to take a risk with somewhat exotic slabs. At one time I used to build cradles using 18th and 19th century tools and experimented with a whole variety of woods as you do. I never had the success rate you do but enjoyed the hell out of it.

[@stevemccabe7900]

Can you believe, I literally started my table top experience with walnut rootball cookies.. Yeah.. And I was ambitious and was learning epoxy at the same time... Surprisingly, I didn't do too bad. All that aside, this video brought back some of the horrors I experienced from day one. Sir your videos are great! I wish I would have had this available to me 5 years ago.

[@wendyjones5871]

Believe me, you are NOT boring!!! I somehow came across your channel and other wood working channels when I started watching acrylic paint poring channels? And I got hooked!! I love watching your process and the way you narrate is simply awesome and very e Joya let so thanks for all of your effort, it is really appreciated!!! :) :)

[@charesyoung8257]

Hello I'm charley.im from North Ga.i recently discovered your videos. I absolutely love watching your work. I'm recovering from kidney surgery and by watching your bring that beautiful wood back to life gives me so much comfort right now. You have a new life time follower.

[@JonalynH]

I love the wall piece! It’s beautiful. I also think as someone who loves to decorate peoples homes and living spaces this type of art work is really hard to find. Especially with newer homes that have 20 feet walls trying to fill that space is really hard with out it looking messy or busy you need large artwork. My decorating style is organic, natural, clean, old antiques used in new ways. My favorite pieces are those that have character, and come with a great story to tell then is given a new life, that celebrates all its beautiful faults, which adds character. Celebrates its uniqueness, one of a kind, and beautifully made.

[@antarahibnshaddad7725]

That cart used to lift the wood is a prime example of when the random item you bought while window shopping in Lowes finally comes in handy!

[@jonshomo1167]

…..for me its Harbor Freight🤣

[@antarahibnshaddad7725]

@@jonshomo1167 tractor supply and ace hardware also

[@machinist7230]

For those who are interested, theyre properly called die lift tables. Their original purpose was to elevate stamping dies to load/ unload onto punch presses.

[@randywilson2968]

I think it great that you are willing to be open and honest and share your experience both success and what you are calling a failure. I would be so glad if everything in life I have failed at turned out as beautiful as that "wall hanging" as you call it! I appreciate your work and I think you are too hard on yourself.

[@yunume]

That's some serious self-awareness starting at minute 5, dude. Ya, I'm never going to build a table myself, but it's a joy to watch you build.

[@martinriveramoreles6966]

Wow!! It’s amazing to see how you enjoyed your job!! It wasn’t that easy but you are doing something you desperately like on doing!!! As a college student asesor retired after almost twenty years of working with foreigner students from around the globe, by seeing what you are doing, proofs what I always told to my students, do whatever makes you happy and definitely you are a vivid example of what said rapidly to my students!!! Amazing job!!!👍👍

[@rejerh8731]

Sawyer! Even warped it looks great!!! :) Btw, please wear a respirator when belt sanding epoxy! We love your content and want to enjoy it for many years to come!

[@smokeytwitchsmokey]

Your talent never fails to amaze me

Sawer!-Cam! have you tried vacuum to get rid of the bubbles before you pour? At the restaurant, when we make foie gras terrine, we have to pour the foie gras into a plastic lined mold. The foie gras is seasoned, poached, and pass through a fine mesh to capture any blood vessesls, and this process traps bubbles. We use to tamp the mold to encourges the bubbles to rise to the top, but I found out that it is much easier if we pull a vacuum, which make the bubbles increase in size and flow to the top where it can be popped.

[@carlamarlene2927]

my dad taught me SOOO much about wood. he loved trees and trimmed trees for many years. he was so good, after a year, you couldn't even tell he'd touched it. I could instantly tell it was walnut. I miss my dad

[@sharonpower9749]

For us watchers (not woodworkers), the details are not boring, and gives us an understanding of the amount of work involved in producing a high end product, and helps to justify the price.

[@andrewherrmann2964]

I appreciate this video in particular. I follow both you and Sawyer Design and love both your work. Being completely self taught (except for watching Norm from show 1 to last), it's actually heartening to see fails. I find thinking everyone else is perfect to be extremely intimidating. You all are still way better, but it's nice to know you're not perfect.

[@BlacktailStudio]

Far from…

[@RichardGray-p3u]

As a new subscriber with no knowledge of working with wood I thought your dedication to the art you create is wonderful and the commentary so polished just like your work I don’t understand about the moisture content and why you couldn’t use it as a table though and I am sure most people watched till the end 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧

[@sigguy1361]

Don't sweat it, Cam, I know there's a few issues with it, but it came out absolutely gorgeous! Thanks for the honesty in the flaws, but don't be too hard on yourself. Love your videos, keep them coming! Cheers

[@drucker03]

If you plan to use the belt sander on such large pieces more frequently, you could consider to buy a sanding frame for your belt sander. It makes it much easier to get a consistent flat surface.

[@davidp2of3]

Sawyer designs base matched that top perfectly. Cam, I really enjoy watching you sand. It might be like watching concrete dry to most people, but to me it's peaceful. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents.

[@franklegerski9682]

Beautiful. Great video. My dad taught me all about jigsaws. (He was a master carpenter and trained at least a hundred apprentices.) You never use a dull blade or a blade too long. They will wobble and cut crooked every time! We made a bar top top same way, in the 1980's! We put old poker cards, chips, glasses, etc. Under the clear epoxy! It's still in use today. Maybe a new project for you? Thanks again!

[@sethea]

At least you got to choose whether or not to cut your wood up or keep the natural edge. Many of us never got to choose, and instead someone else forced their wood cutting decisions on us, so we were left with wood already cut up. When you want to have the natural finish on your wood, and you only get one piece of wood, that's hard to deal with. You can never get that natural wood back once it's cut. Everyone should be allowed to make their own decisions about their own wood.. It just makes sense.

[@1brotherk]

well said!

[@itsamindgame9198]

I know a few blokes who were left with a live edge and then late in life, due to painful and recurring difficulties had to adopt a cut edge. It is a lot more complicated and painful to deal with once you make your own decision about it. Personally I value not having to remember the process (and looking at the actual research, can't disagree with it). I certainly haven't ever considered cleaning with pellets of dry ice!

[@sethea]

@@itsamindgame9198 my father in law had to have 3 toes cut off in 80s due to infections and circulation issues. He never could walk again because the healing process was so long and painful. How many toes does that justify cutting off of children's feet? That's the dumb logic of your story.

[@itsamindgame9198]

@@sethea Having lopped fingers off, I am sorry to hear that. However, HAVING toes wasn't the problem; the problem was an accident. Having toes also can't give cancer to people you touch them with. My logic is not only the benefits aforementioned in the video but the fact that is actually saves lives and prevents causing cancer. I didn't call anyone dumb, just pointed out a POV. YMMV.

[@sethea]

@@itsamindgame9198 having foreskin isn't a problem.. 80% of men worldwide keep their whole penis their whole life and they're fine. Every mammal on earth has a foreskin and is fine. It's only brainwashed Americans who think Foreskin is an issue. (The same people who think a sky wizard perfectly designed them but fucked up the foreskin. They're stupid. Don't be stupid.)

[@Kernoel77]

Thin is non-viscous. The more viscous, the thicker a liquid

[@therickpound]

I concur

[@liamwilgar1914]

Sorta.. Viscosity is the opposite of Flow. High viscosity fluids are resistant to movement and shape change. Higher viscosity slower flow rate. :)

[@Cobbido]

Got proof?

[@mchapman132]

OK

[@badgerservices9665]

Non Viscous? Everything has a viscosity. Low viscosity vs High viscosity, its all relative. For example.. Water has a low viscosity, Honey has a high viscosity, but also, Air has a low viscosity while water has a high viscosity. This is a qualitive description of viscosity. For quantative measurement of viscosity, well, it gets more complicated and this is wood working not physics.

[@helenascheele5922]

I want to thank both of you guys for not “only” being so good designers and craftsmen, but also being so good humans. Thank you!❤❤

[@gradewood]

❤❤

[@MikeBSc]

5:40 If you use toblerone shaped blocks of wood as stand offs, it makes it much easier to remove them once the top coat has set on the work piece.

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[@nuttm3gg]

I love that you said Toblerone rather than triangle.

[@stevek906]

@@nuttm3gg Toblerone = about halfway between triangle and Kit Kat. 😁 But I'm surprised some sort of plastic blocks aren't used instead (ideally plastic Toblerones) for easier detachment.

[@BlairCarlyle]

Sawyer Design is a true master, it’s awesome seeing you two work together!

[@anniecrawford5911]

Sawyer seems like a really good guy and a great friend. The edge of this table is amazing. I am constantly impressed with the layers upon layers, steps upon steps in this artistic process. Since I am not knowledgeable about woodworking, your patience, gentle clear explanation, master knowledge, excellent video and editing skills are greatly appreciate by this fan. Thanks for your honesty. 💐

[@incomudro1948]

I am a former yacht builder. Using a vacuum pump to saturate the capillaries with resin by the infusion method removes all the air , replacing the voids with resin. Simple and clean. We used this method on composite hull shapes. Never has a comeback.

[@MW-yd4nk]

still a gorgeous piece. I'm still learning about the moisture / table connection and how it effects the outcome

[@robbiehayes5508]

Sawyer! Hi Cam - do you think the dry ice process impacted the moisture content problem?

[@BlacktailStudio]

That’s a great question, but no that’s not it. I talked to the wood supplier and this is caused by a bacterial wetwood that is often (but not always) indicated by those light yellow streaks. Any surface moisture dries quite quickly, even if totally soaked.

[@Cobbido]

Dry ice generally goes straight from solid to gas form. It doesn't have any water in it either.

[@josephbucci3749]

It’s frozen carbon dioxide so no water.

[@mhenlopotter1612]

@@Cobbido Well the water would be coming out of the air as condensation. But as Cam said, surface moisture dries quickly. (Firewood stored outside still dries, even if it's rained on regularely)

[@Alex_Outdoors_Canada]

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[@valiantwarrior4517]

Sawyer. You’ve definitely made it into my KZbin trust. Love this stuff. Personally, as a decorative piece, I would have no issue at all with the ‘imperfections’ the trapped moisture caused. I think it gives it character…like scars on a war hero.

[@kathymostoller2619]

My daughter & I are thinking about opening a shop to refurbish old furniture. We live around Amish country & easy to get some interesting slabs. I've made picture frames out of square slabs, burnt edges of the picture to make it interesting. I love watching you make things. I've made furniture out of rough lumber. Gives it character & nothing like it. Love the round table top but you have to love it to sell it!! Love the bullet you left in a table!!

[@tossmc]

Man, I don't know a great deal about this type of stuff, but ... that is amazing! I love it and the patience of doing all of what you're doing, ... good job sir. I love this video and thank you.

[@zulifiana2089]

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[@beverlycarswell5291]

Absolutely stunning piece! Too bad about the moisture thing, though.. That 'cookie" was such a gorgeous piece of wood; I did feel bad when you cut the edges off, but the tabletop finish was amazing! At least you got over 6000 beans for your trouble!

[@KingMinhvuong]

Very nice table build. I always look forward to your new videos and I love your products. they are very beautiful. Congratulations!

[@norwegiansmores811]

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[@petervice]

I realise how little I know, your videos enspire me to actually start my project, thank you, Peter from Spain

[@RCichard]

For those wondering, the table was sold as wall-art _(without the base)_ and received 71 bids with an ending sale price of a whopping *$6,200* _with free flat rate shipping included._ Great job none the less man, its still a awesome hunk of lumber and someone will display it proudly in their home!

[@busybee6889]

what a rip-off

[@RCichard]

@@busybee6889 Thats what is great about a free market - something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it! That's like saying the value of a Picasso, Rembrandt, or a da Vinci work is only worth the raw value of the oil paints, canvas, and frame.... when we all know there is a much greater intrinsic value associated with these works of art over the extrinsic value of the materials used. He did not set the price at $6k, he set it at $100 and then multiple buyers all tried to buy it with the winner paying that much - but just under that there was another 70 people willing to buy it for just a little bit less. Just because you don't have that kind of money to piss away doesn't mean its a rip-off.

[@busybee6889]

@@RCichard well most of those aforementioned people basically had to be dead before their stuff got its prestigious renown. but thanks for heads up on the fact that it was auctioned ....spoke out of turn on that one

[@RCichard]

@@busybee6889 indeed, not the best analogy on the painting vs wooden art work but yeah... it wasnt just one sucker who bought it for that price there was a half dozen people in a bidding war up to the last day! I was honestly shocked given the situation he ran into, but hey - as long as the buyer was informed and happy and the seller got some money back out of the mishap its a win win in my book!

[@jsnthurst1]

Why did moisture render it unusable, will it rot? Will it crack? Why could nothing be done to correct it?

[@sofiatgarcia3970]

I spent 35 years as a cabinetmaker and I used the belt sander a lot. It can be a very finicky tool to use properly, but worth the effort to learn. You also need to know how to maintain it correctly.

[@vvsmixing]

his technique was interesting to me , sanding perpendicular to the belt rather than parallel. i always thought you sans with the belt motion not at right angles to it

[@matthewwhite876]

@@vvsmixing you use belt sanders at roughly 45° in a side to side or sweeping or curved motion, forward and back causes terrible inconsistency in the surface and the sander wants to run away, and 90° side to side causes some belt issues but you generally sweep it at 45° roughly

[@vvsmixing]

@@matthewwhite876 thank you i notice on wood at coarse grit it scratches the wood in a ugly way, and looks better when those scratches are taken out by goin with the grain. or can you sand 45 to the grain and just use higher grit to take those out

[@matthewwhite876]

@@vvsmixing I would only use a belt sander to take material away not to try sand it to a polished finish an orbital sander is the best option if you don't have access to a drum sander

[@cindyedmonds8878]

New sub here. I'm not a woodworker but my uncle and father-in-law were. Neither worked with organic pieces or epoxy. I know several ppl who have tables like this, just not round. I find this very interesting and educational! Love how honest you are about mistakes and how you could fix them.... or not. Thanks for a non-gossip YT channel!

[@christinarobinson1163]

So you were bored? How awesome. Such talent you have to take a piece from Mother Nature and proceed to create a magnificent piece. I wish I had room for it. It would look real good in my living room! Cheers.

[@paulfowler3416]

Hey Cam, a bit surprised at the leaks and mould destruction. I find HDPE works very well. I do have occasional leaks but pretty minimal. For curved moulds I tuck tape an 18 mm board and then flesh 4 mm HDPE with wood shoulders screwed through the board. Can send a pi. If you are interested.

[@jdrissel]

I suspect that they dry ice blasting might have contributed to the deep moisture issue. I would test the next piece you send for dry ice blasting before and after, and if necessary dry it again afterwards. That looked awesome, but with that much moisture it is not going to last. Maybe with luck it will be possible to repair it in 10-15 years when it finally finishes drying and cracking, but that is a long time to store something that big that can't be used...

[@natesofla8891]

Shouldn't be a dry ice issue. No liquid is retained. It goes from solid to gas.

[@adamjames5097]

Dry ice is carbon dioxide. It doesn’t have a liquid state so it can’t leave any residue

[@jonathankydd1816]

Yes, but it causes condensation to form due to how cold it is. You cold.see the surface effect of it in the video and he even points it out.

[@jimjjewett]

@@adamjames5097 But it is *really* cold ... and there was moisture in the air around. Some may have condensed out of the air and gotten stuck.

[@adamjames5097]

@@jimjjewett good point 🤝

[@RyanDB]

As an outsider, I think I've got a pretty objective view of the whole circumcision debate in the US, and, I have to say, it's amazing to me that the people who fanatically insist on cutting off parts of their children for no reason are able to paint the people who are against that as the fanatics It's so strange

[@indieWellie]

you don't need to look much passed john harvey kellogg (that guy had issues) to understand how and why it became the norm in america. but it is gradually becoming less and less common for it to be routinely done.

[@jonl4899]

Dude, I could listen to your narrations all day. You've got the perfect mix of comedy and how-to mixed in with quite a bit of raw honesty and I think it works really well. Sorry the table was a bust, but I still think it looked good. I haven't got into woodworking as a hobby but I feel like I learned a lot from this. Thanks for another great video.

[@trackpad_6647]

I feel like you could turn your new wall piece into a crazy cool looking clock with beautiful brass features. Outside the box for you since building a clock is complicated but could be another cool collab type idea!

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[@tassellhoff]

Great video. I have a suggestion that came to me when you mounted the "table" to the wall. Could you turn it into a clock? The former table top on a wall reminds me of an empty clock face. Keep up the great work.

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Definitely wanted to comment on the Dry Ice Blasting company. I didn't know a service like that existed. This was actually a great job by them and you to add this in the video. My company can use a service like this for a lot of our contracts.

[@Silentbob1494]

I've seen, honestly way too many woodworking videos for someone who doesn't woodwork, but this has easily been the most beautiful piece of wood before working i've ever seen, this thing has a lot of potential.