Here’s a video idea: Wrestlers who had it bad in WWE, but had it even worse _outside_ WWE.
@JustBecauseidk510 ай бұрын
Alberto del Rio 😂😂
@brysongarland287010 ай бұрын
@@JustBecauseidk5he definitely did good in wwe. Until the end at least
@telepath189010 ай бұрын
Miro.. His whole AEW run has been a joke outside of his TNT title run
@Darkell-c3o10 ай бұрын
Tessa Blanchard
@Darkell-c3o10 ай бұрын
Saraya
@KDB34910 ай бұрын
If Kofi Kingston and Brock had a solid match then i'd have no reason to hate it because you already know when Brock shows up in the title picture there's 98% chance of him winning. Kofi getting squashed in 7 seconds in was ridiculous
@davidkelling15910 ай бұрын
It was believable though. I'd rather watch Kofi get squashed than actually pretend he stood any kind of chance
@KDB34910 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't care if it was 'believable' you don't squash your champion and make them look like a joke. Wrestling is entertainment. It's fiction. It's not that deep. It doesn't make sense to try to tightly hold onto realism in wrestling. But I'm sure some were happy with it@@davidkelling159
@jay794910 ай бұрын
Kofi shouldn’t have had the belt in the first place
@dustinsonnier560210 ай бұрын
@@jay7949and why not
@PolarEXP10 ай бұрын
And why shouldn’t he have had the title?
@kadharefinley22410 ай бұрын
I totally forgot about Cain Velasquez. He only had 1 match against Brock Lesnar and then he disappeared to never be seen again.
@gordonrundell326010 ай бұрын
Calling what they had as a match is a stretch
@jasongroomes798710 ай бұрын
Not only that, Velazquez looked like a 40+ year old dad bod bum.
@RenaissanceofWrestling10 ай бұрын
He left because he was arrested for killing his daughters attacked
@SwayNoir10 ай бұрын
@@RenaissanceofWrestling that came way later. He was let go during the covid cuts
@RenaissanceofWrestling10 ай бұрын
@@SwayNoir my bad I remember finding out about both around the same time that’s on me
@artirony41010 ай бұрын
Cain Velasquez: INOKI-ISM LIVES BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Eva Marie: hired before WWE had actual standards for their women's division Gable Steveson: I don't think the expectation that he was gonna be "the next Kurt Angle" really helped him all that much
@dcrggreensheep10 ай бұрын
Eva tried to improve in her 2nd run which is great She didnt improve that much but she did try
@Christian_Diamond10 ай бұрын
@@dcrggreensheepI feel like her ring skills were even worse in the second run
@xerael465910 ай бұрын
It's funny how people expected Steveson to be the next Angle while WWE had "the next Angle" already, that was also "a Gable" but they didn't want to acknowledge it.
@LukeDantonio-fp6tc9 ай бұрын
Inoki-ism lives, lol
@jamesAGarfield6089 ай бұрын
kurt angle isnt even good tho sorry not sorry
@melanineyedoc10 ай бұрын
Completely forgot about Cain Velasquez lol
@sean83639 ай бұрын
I was hoping to keep forgetting about him 😂
@dirtiesttiger10 ай бұрын
Gable stevenson just went full jimmy hoffa on us 😂
@mlgfoxymangle365710 ай бұрын
GABLE HAD ONE MATCH ON NXT WITH CORBIN AND NEVER BE HEARD ABOUT ON NXT AGAIN
@josephsimon060510 ай бұрын
Isn’t he on WWE2k24 My Rise(
@kenterminateddq531110 ай бұрын
I never understood why WWE brought Eva Marie back years ago. She said she improved in the ring? Nia Jax's return looked like Ricky Steamboat compared to Eva's comeback.
@SCSAsJorts10 ай бұрын
One word Vince
@MrSniperfox2910 ай бұрын
@@SCSAsJortsJohnny Ace more like
@SCSAsJorts10 ай бұрын
@@MrSniperfox29 I loath that man I forget he exist but you’re definitely hit the nail there
@Hisnameisroyperez9 ай бұрын
@@SCSAsJortstits?
@मृदुलशर्मा8 ай бұрын
@@Hisnameisroyperezthat too are fake.
@njtheradical10 ай бұрын
I was legit pissed off with the feud between Brock and Velasquez. From Kofi being squashed to the piss-poor match at Crown Jewel.
@Jojoisyoboy850010 ай бұрын
If you ever feel useless remember Odyssey Jones bro got drafted to the main roster and till this day he never even made 1 appearance
@artisticenigma696010 ай бұрын
I honestly forgot about that.
@coltonwilkie24110 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm not sure they see much in him.
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
What about Gabe Stevenson who hasn't even had a match?
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
Eva Marie maybe would have worked better as a valet, like Scarlett or B-Fab.
@Jojoisyoboy850010 ай бұрын
@@dhenderson1810 he did he had a match with baron Corbin then disappeared
@ahmadtutt119310 ай бұрын
Eva Marie Was The One Of The Worst
@SCSAsJorts10 ай бұрын
Eva Marie would of only worked in the attitude-early ruthless aggression era She came into the field when the women’s division was gaining more and more legitimacy idk how she got signed TWICE
@jboy2710 ай бұрын
Eva marie was the biggest heel in wwe at the time everyone hated her so much
@SCSAsJorts10 ай бұрын
@@jboy27 I think that’s just go away heat/hating her though 😭
@toxicthoughts69239 ай бұрын
She went to nxt got a little better but still not great she had so many opportunities to train in la ect Brie was right
@markula_404010 ай бұрын
I get that Cain Velasquez has a legit background but one look at him is all it takes to realize he had no business in WWE. No physique, no promo skills. It may have been a Hogan/Warrior in WCW situation where they only brought Cain in so Lesnar can get his win back.
@HOTBoi3D10 ай бұрын
I went to SmackDown when they came to Atlanta in January. Gable Steveson was in a dark match before the show against Cameron Grimes and it was so quiet I heard rats pissing on cotton 😂😂😂
@valeriedimaulo737410 ай бұрын
Don't know who thought it was a good idea to bring Eva Marie back
@aprilevangelist641510 ай бұрын
Vince
@richardvasquez674610 ай бұрын
Or johnny ace
@samuellolango972010 ай бұрын
@@aprilevangelist6415of course it was Vince 😏
@declangaming2410 ай бұрын
@@samuellolango9720do you think that the talent of WWE when vince was running it mainly women where S** abused backstage or in the hotels
@derrickhaggard10 ай бұрын
It was Vince cause he wanted the eye-candy for him and other perverts to ogle.
@dylanbryant354710 ай бұрын
Chad gable is the next kurt angle not gable Stevenson
@thesprock527010 ай бұрын
Chad Gable does not appeal to Casuals at all. Let it go
@yourmum95510 ай бұрын
@@thesprock5270 He appeals to the WWE audience and that's what matters
@thesprock527010 ай бұрын
@@yourmum955 Ok…
@bernardosantosribeiro666510 ай бұрын
@@thesprock5270 In fact, he's been quite popular since the regime change and is the favorite to dethrone Gunther.
@thesprock527010 ай бұрын
@@bernardosantosribeiro6665 That would do nothing but hurt Gunther.
@TheLsp20119 ай бұрын
Squashing Kofi Kingston, just to create a feud between Brock Lesnar and Cain Velasquez was such a Vince McMahon move. Thank God, Triple H took over
@jimmylopez570210 ай бұрын
In all honesty I think the biggest waste of signing of all time is Giant Gonzalez
@dosenplok14010 ай бұрын
That Bayley vs Eva Match was great.
@timothytillis311410 ай бұрын
Sin Cara , was touted to be the next Rey Mysterio but never measured due to constantly botching his moves because of not learning the WWE style and his refusal to learn English
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
Then they had Hunico replace him under the mask.
@achimsinn618910 ай бұрын
Eva Marie was entertaining in that run where she was never wrestling. IMO she could have become a pretty good vallet or manager - maybe for something like maximum male models or so. Just keep her away from the ring and she would be a good signing.
@dkmenace199010 ай бұрын
Always thought they could have done more with her and Piper Niven like giving Piper a Lesnar 2002 push.
@tafua_a9 ай бұрын
If there's one thing that is sadly still alive and well in WWE from the Attitude Era is the idea that all of their women should wrestle. No. You don't see Paul Heyman wrestle, you shouldn't have seen Eva Marie wrestle.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD10 ай бұрын
Too many to remember or list
@cliffdover971810 ай бұрын
Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn played off their UFC stuff as well back in the attitude era
@RomaroBrandon10 ай бұрын
Gable Stevenson should align with Damon Kemp and they should feud with The Creed Brothers.
@SCSAsJorts10 ай бұрын
This is actually genius
@RomaroBrandon10 ай бұрын
@@SCSAsJorts I got the idea from a video MurfsYT13 did about bring back Team Angle only instead of acting like Damon Kemp didn't turn on The Creed Brothers I decided to not rewrite that part of history.
@megannichole1209 ай бұрын
I feel for Eva Marie. Firstly it hurt her because of the reality show they put her on the main roster before she was ready. They finally did get her to NXT to improve but moved her back up again before she had time to improve. She could have used massive heel heat to become a good character but they never used that.
@coreyhendricks949010 ай бұрын
Cool video as always Tom 💯 How about Ronda Rousey's time in WWE
@billyrouse48139 ай бұрын
Let’s have some fun! Cain, agreed. It was only because of Brock’s UFC ties. You must not have heard of Dan Severn & Ken Shamrock. Eva Marie could have been good, but she was just interested in fame. Gable Steveson was a great wrestler. Not sure what happened.
@McThrill1310 ай бұрын
You left out Ron Gronkowski when they signed him during that weird Covid period after he retired as a Patriot, but left to join the Buccaneers.
@fcdavidg475110 ай бұрын
The good brothers (gallows and anderson) 2nd run in WWE has to be one of the worst of all time… freaking guys have wrestled on tv maybe like 4 times since they returned and have maybe won their debut match and that’s it since then.. they are AJ’s backstage promo background characters
@criminalmindsgirl29369 ай бұрын
WWE is always trying to find the next Kurt Angle or Rey Mysterio 🙄🤦♀️
@Frosty811110 ай бұрын
7:37 bro''s fading into the ropes😭
@tafua_a9 ай бұрын
To put Gable Steveson being booed in perspective: Corbin wasn't just a heel; he was a heel notorious for having so called "go away heat". As in, he made TV worse by being featured. And he got *cheered* that night. Imagine being in a match in 2000 and being so hated as a babyface that the crowd starts chanting "we want X-Pac".
@MrSniperfox2910 ай бұрын
To be fair, Eva Marie v Bayley in NXT was a great story, had she not come back in 2021 we could put her down as "not great but seen worse"
@RedForeman10 ай бұрын
6:15 this… this is why Shayna can’t be as popular as we want her to be lol
@Beast_the_smash_guy10 ай бұрын
Why? For taking out someone we hated
@Nicholaspimpinsohard10 ай бұрын
Mason Ryan, Ezekiel Jackson, Eva Marie, Cain Velasequez, Daniel Puder, and Rosa Mendez.
@declangaming2410 ай бұрын
Mason Ryan was plagued with injury Jackson became ECW champion and won some championships Jackson worked out for a while
@joshualewis76929 ай бұрын
Eva Marie would have been perfect for Toxic Attraction. In hindsight,of course.
@realmr-hyde10 ай бұрын
Everytime I see the poster for Cain Vs Brock I'm like "who's that? That's not Cain." Lol
@EliasRoy10 ай бұрын
I literally forgot about Gable Steveson
@jordanthomas522210 ай бұрын
Tbh I did had a major crush on Eva Marie when she showed up on TV when I was little
@LightFromADeadStar10 ай бұрын
She is hot but she's awful in everything wrestle wise
@dkmenace199010 ай бұрын
She's a hottie and isn't a mark like a lot of women
@iceticketliongaming80610 ай бұрын
The only thing that I know about Gable Stevenson was his segment during an NXT Underground match, it was barely anything much but was still hella entertaining when he just suplexed everyone that stepped up to him including that one real big guy he backed into only to suplex him as well😂😂 Damn shame nothing else came of him tho, cuz that moment was good
@Sirmarklee2310 ай бұрын
Kofi getting squashed by Lesnar was the most memorable time of his entire career.
@gordonrundell326010 ай бұрын
Gable is still doing dark matches on smackdown, I can see him being released when his contract is up or when the usual April cuts are announced
@yacodude58210 ай бұрын
Triole H is so much more focused and improving talent and giving them all the chances instead like Vince who drops the ball on someone the first chance he gets
@yourmum95510 ай бұрын
@@yacodude582 For once I want the Vince approach. No one likes Steveson.
@declangaming2410 ай бұрын
I think those dark matches are just for the crowd to be warmed up for the actual taping
@holocaustguy10076 ай бұрын
Well, you were right
@Rockhound61659 ай бұрын
Sounded like you said that Velasquez/Lesner was the first time a UFC feud was in WWE. Did you forget Dan Severn vs Ken Shamrock?
@son_of_the_heavymetal114210 ай бұрын
Gable just lacked something... probably was either the broken neck part or the infamous percs
@dylanbryant354710 ай бұрын
They wanted gable Stevenson to be the next kurt angle
@LegendaryHeroponRiki10 ай бұрын
he really had no personality at all
@henryarredumbo198310 ай бұрын
In the sake of fairness, top 10 worst UFC signings would be lit.
@edro5118810 ай бұрын
CM Punk would definitely be on that list
@nevenpatrk966110 ай бұрын
I know that this is given more recent examples but if you are talking about worst WWE signings of all of time, you have to include's Nailz' name in there. Not only was he a horrible wrestler who had terrible matches, he also got fired from entering into Vince's office to legitimately strangle him because of a payout disagreement. He would go on to tesify against McMahon in the steroid trial and would end up blowing the entire thing over when he claimed that he "hated McMahon's guts" which destroyed any legitimacy that his claims had. What an idiot.
@lunamelody202510 ай бұрын
Tbh, I kinda think Eva was one of the biggest fumbles WWE did. They could've utilized her differently and she could've still been a big star. Triple H was making her a star in NXT and Vince only used her to make her look like a jobber like Matt Cardona in the main roster. I would've pushed Eva to be more of a tactician wrestler like Shayna, but still utilize Sliced Bread #2 and maybe add Spear or Ushiguroshi to the arsenal, since Eva's height is kinda well suited for both moves. Eva took the training seriously, but Vince was the reason she had a negative impression.
@mogamatyusufmartin917110 ай бұрын
True
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD10 ай бұрын
The 1st smackdown on Fox sucked ass
@charlestran626510 ай бұрын
Kizarny and Eric Escobar.
@claymathewselevator812110 ай бұрын
I liked both
@claymathewselevator812110 ай бұрын
Fun fact Kizarny is buddies with Edge and Christian
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
Is Eric Escobar related to Santos Escobar?
@TheMC110210 ай бұрын
In the next video, you should discuss the worst TNA signings ever, thought I'll be surprised if that video isn't at least half an hour long.
@justinwilliams828110 ай бұрын
Eva Marie also always appeared to not really want to be in the ring. Even after she improved her skills it always seemed like she was phoning it in. I think she was just looking for a way to get on TV and get into the spotlight.
@dkmenace199010 ай бұрын
Which is why she left as soon as movie roles popped up.
@markrios325610 ай бұрын
This just makes you realize how much better Kurt angle was as a performer , literally had the magic touch and poor gable Stevenson just wasn’t talented enough or good enough in every quality like Kurt was in his day and it shows why he hasn’t even been seen in forever now 😂 😊
@paballomolata884410 ай бұрын
Well damn that's harsh but it's true
@xkovacsx0910 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is Gable Steveson's still employed by WWE after 3 years of mostly nothing. Freestyle wrestling is clearly higher priority to him.
@Rand0me1310 ай бұрын
I mean, if you're signed and sent to work full time on the road while all your peers are left to train for 2 years, then yeah, you're not gonna be the best
@chrisbelit159910 ай бұрын
you know this channel isn’t gonna lie when it comes to aew
@dirtiesttiger10 ай бұрын
Imagine if a white guy tried to get white pride tattooed across his chest to be ok for television 😂
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
MVP was forced to wear a bodysuit when he wrestled because he has a huge tattoo of Malcolm X on his chest.
@jschizoid10 ай бұрын
Dana Brooke
@tomkeithley85988 ай бұрын
Riddle. Worst. Signing. EVER. And for old school fans like myself that threshold is VAST.
@souljarohill879510 ай бұрын
Nah Cain debut was cool asf. The problem was everything after like him just disappearing
@MasterOfViewership10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised u didn't mention Shit Row
@Radents_TWO10 ай бұрын
They only worked with Swerve in the group.
@MasterOfViewership10 ай бұрын
even Swerve didn't help. It was 3 black Cena wanna-be's and a held down star@@Radents_TWO
@darkchocolate33909 ай бұрын
Stevenson's past sucks, but from a build perspective he's way closer to a Brock Lesnar(coincidentally they both won a NCAA title at the same school) versus a Kurt Angle who's much shorter(even if they both have gold medals).
@criminalmindsgirl29369 ай бұрын
The dumb thing was having Cain face Brock for the World Title but we all knew there was no build up and there was no way Cain was going to win the title.
@McThrill1310 ай бұрын
I get why Gable Stevenson is on here, but in a lot of ways I don't think it's his fault. It's not his fault that they instantly gave him the Kurt Angle comparisons, made him Raw draft pick right away, and then threw him in that botched match with Baron Corbin without proper extended training and prep work in NXT. They overhyped and inflated the expectation of his output similar to how they did so when Mark Henry and Kurt Angle started, the only difference is that they also didn't give Stevenson proper time to develop and find his pro wrestling footing, and instead made a rush job of it when he was able to make appearances. It's like Kurt Angle without him being able to find himself as a proper heel and grow his talent immensely through that, or Mark Henry if he was only embarrassed as Sexual Chocolate and never received a shot at opening his Hall of Pain or cutting the best false retirement promo ever in that salmon suit. Maybe Stevenson will get more of a shot at finding himself later down the road and prove us wrong too.
@bigshambowski10 ай бұрын
You know you're fucked when BARON CORBIN is more over than you.
@davidblank42010 ай бұрын
Here's an idea, include ten entries to every list.
@lakenreef69219 ай бұрын
I feel Tamina was one of the worst signings, she was drafted to Smackdown in April of last year. WHICH IS A WHOLE YEAR and she’s made 0 appearances actually Fun Fact: Tamina’s last match was on February 27, 2023 against Michin “Mia Yim” on Main Event (which she lost…)
@alifnajmi199710 ай бұрын
It's still mind blowing that Vince just buried Kofi Kingston within just in favor of booked Brock Lesnar vs Cain Freaking Velasquez in WWE Title Match but I'd no reason to hate it if WWE booked that match as non title match and let Kofi Kingston defend the WWE Title against someone's worthy than Cain Velasquez
@dkmenace199010 ай бұрын
Vince was panic booking throughout 2019 because Seth and Kofi flopped badly
@eliasville345910 ай бұрын
My pinching ideas:top 10 reason why aew feels like a Vince McMahon era
@AntoKyuuketsuki10 ай бұрын
Out of all of them, I would say by unpopular decision that Eva Marie was the better one on this list.
@danielo85699 ай бұрын
Could Jade Cargill be the next Eva Marie? After months of training in the performance center, she is doing the same stuff that she did already in AEW.
@noeljoynerlucasfanguillen350410 ай бұрын
Shanky you forgot to add to
@summerwintermelon10 ай бұрын
I think I need sleep. I thought you're gonna talk about the worst WWE audience posters and signs on TV. lmao
@davidfitzpatrick653510 ай бұрын
7:33 SO apparently the reason Gable Stevenson has taken so long to come to WWE is because he's in University right now doing studies. TBH I think good on him because a) wrestling doenst pay much and b) u have no idea how long u'll be able to wrestle so its a good idea imo to get that University degree which can help job prospects.
@PTrep27279 ай бұрын
The whole drafting of Steveson was so dumb , ahead of established stars. I get it but shaking my head almost as much as Velasquez. 🤦🤦🤷🤷
@ChampionOfDorkwall10 ай бұрын
Never understood why they signed this generic bald guy who stole his name from Kane.
@dhenderson181010 ай бұрын
Some think this applies to Ronda Rousey as well.
@claymathewselevator812110 ай бұрын
Extra training from THE Brian Kendrick
@ABIT-cb1qh10 ай бұрын
Background music name?
@RoyOrbisonsElvisTape10 ай бұрын
Could have done an hour long video if they went back to the 80s. There were some bad choices back in the day.
@MrDman2110 ай бұрын
This goes to show not everybody that comes from UFC is gonna make it in WWE.
@JayL889910 ай бұрын
How do you make this list and not put Sin Cara?
@daschwah10 ай бұрын
Jade Cargill‘s starting to look like a lock for Vol. 2 of this series.
@thesprock527010 ай бұрын
🤣. This is why they don’t listen to marks.
@coltonwilkie24110 ай бұрын
She's having a match at WrestleMania and they practically built Smackdown around her last night.
@tsuneomccormick11510 ай бұрын
When AAA does something better than WWE.
@davidparsons373110 ай бұрын
You should make one for TNA wrestling
@zillaTV75710 ай бұрын
Eva Marie wasn't a bad signing... They used her wrong
@TimeStampGuy110 ай бұрын
Nah , she was trash by not learning the craft. She could of been a valet or manager which fits more her style
@zillaTV75710 ай бұрын
@@TimeStampGuy1 they rushed her on tv because she was beautiful, they didn't give her enough time in developmental. That is on them
@TimeStampGuy110 ай бұрын
@@zillaTV757 facts
@ALL_that_ENDS10 ай бұрын
Here's an idea, make videos longer than 10 mins..
@stainshield10 ай бұрын
You forgot Maria Kanellis and Ronda Rousey.
@slickrick64610 ай бұрын
Eva Maria should have been a manager
@ryanwainwright693410 ай бұрын
what about veer we are still waiting for him to apper on raw
@daneanderson743710 ай бұрын
Hornswoggle. Also might be the BEST WWE signing.
@GitzenShiggles9 ай бұрын
So many more go unmentioned...
@eliasville345910 ай бұрын
My idea you should do the worst fumbles I'm aew
@rave400v610 ай бұрын
Who keeps approving Eva Marie?
@dkmenace199010 ай бұрын
She's in good terms with them and she was probably not asking for a lot of money
@Moose63409 ай бұрын
Actually, I would submit that you're wrong...there were two reasons Eva Marie was hired. Two very, VERY obvious reasons.
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl10 ай бұрын
Good show
@mikeygraves1610 ай бұрын
These kinds of videos are all great, but I can't help but be selfish and say you should make then longer than just a few wrestlers each one 🤷🏽♂️
@true_gift23299 ай бұрын
This was all of Vince's doings we know he don't know how to run a company.
@ryanl46149 ай бұрын
Eve Marie might just be one of the top most beautiful women in WWE history. Thats her only accomplishment lol. I completely forgot Cain Velaszquez appeared on WWE like everyone else seems to have.
@AOD148810 ай бұрын
You know there's more history than just 5 years right?
@jsmith394610 ай бұрын
I never wrestle a match but I would think it wouldn't be that hard to go from amateur to pro wrestling considering you have most of the fundamentals all ready and always thought it was funny when it comes to wrestling the fake stuff is consider pro while the real stuff is consider fake
@ZebraEnt10 ай бұрын
The real stuff isn't considered fake....pro refers to the fact that they are signed to contracts and paid. Also being a good amateur wrestler doesn't mean you'll be a good pro wrestler. Someone can be a boxer their whole life and be great at it.....but then you tell them to make it look like they punch someone without making contact and they either make contact on accident or they make it look fake cause they have to fight their nature. They aren't used to pulling punches so therefore aren't good at it despite having all the fundamentals. Some people get it....others just don't.
@cholamais-cj1wh10 ай бұрын
How good you wrestle isn't a decisive factor for success in pro wrestling. It's Sports *entertainment* you know, being entertaining, having charisma and good booking are as important or even more. Look to Goldberg for example. Shitty wrestler that became a star because of these factors.
@jsmith394610 ай бұрын
@@cholamais-cj1wh I wasn't talking about being successful I was talking about how to handle the moves it sounded like that what he was having trouble with which I thought was odd also on the other side look at Dean Malanko
@djkenway487110 ай бұрын
Honestly gable made baron noticed so it wasn’t so bad because honestly gable was such a overhyped shitty wrestler even though he has an Olympic gold medal which is mad props to him but he was really overhyped.