The Wreck of SMS Cormoran - Two Wrecks Together

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SMS Cormoran. This ship is far less famous than her later counterpart, Kormoran with a 'K'. Despite the fact that Cormoran was directly responsible for the first American shots of the Great War.
If this ship is known for anything, it's for her shipwreck. And even then, that's only because of the other wreck that landed on top of her. Tokai Maru, a Japanese freighter from the Second World War.
Making Cormoran, and Tokai Maru, the rare case of two shipwrecks touching. And even more than that, a wreck from each World War.
In today's video, we'll be looking at Cormoran's wreck.
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@BCaldwell
@BCaldwell Ай бұрын
Deep Sea Detectives is a show that I also miss a lot... John Chatterton and Richie Kohler are absolute legends. Awesome video as always and thanks for being a part of my Sunday morning routine. Merry Christmas as well 🎄
@ironiczombie2530
@ironiczombie2530 Ай бұрын
Used to love watching that show, back when the history channel was still good
@natebartels1444
@natebartels1444 Ай бұрын
I wish Deep Sea Detectives was available to watch
@jamey48
@jamey48 Ай бұрын
​@@ironiczombie2530yea me too. John and Richie are awesome hosts. Watching John go down the well in oak Island was nuts. Pitch black, tiny little space. No thanks !
@leroysgamesandmore2226
@leroysgamesandmore2226 Ай бұрын
They got to be up there in age now that show was running in the 2000’s
@jehb8945
@jehb8945 Ай бұрын
Ah Deep Sea detectives when the History channel actually ran shows about history as opposed to tawdry reality shows My favorite dive that they did was on HMHS Britannic were Richie Kohler nearly got into the boiler room that allegedly had the watertight door which didn't closed because of the shock wave from the mine that sank the Britannic
@richardernsberger6147
@richardernsberger6147 Ай бұрын
Dove the Cormoran/Tokai Maru for my final qualifying dive for Open Water 1 certification in 1988. Around that time a couple of divers got lost inside the Tokai Maru and amazingly were rescued several hours later by the Coast Guard. They found an air pocket inside the hull. They were not certified for wreck diving and nearly paid the price.
@RISTRAW
@RISTRAW Ай бұрын
While my family was living on Guam in 1967, a high school friend of mine was told that there was a WWI "German Battle Ship" sunk in Apra Harbor and roughly where it was. He and I sailed his Sunfish sailboat out from the public marina on the harbor with our snorkeling gear. We were surprised when we did not find a Dreadnought type battle ship like we expected. But two ships and no guns. We snorkeled around on the surface and the visibility was good enough to see that they were both on their side but otherwise mostly intact. We had no idea about the whole story but later found a section of a cemetery in Agaña where the remains of some of the sailors from the Cormoran were buried. Some had died during the scuttling while most had died due to natural causes during the time that the ship was impounded before the United States entered the war.
@codmakesmeswear3316
@codmakesmeswear3316 Ай бұрын
I was stationed on the USS Haleakala AE-25 which was home ported in Guam in '93. One of the first things you hear about when arriving at Naval Station Guam is about the two ships sitting keel to keel in the Harbor. My division GM1 was a certified dive instructor and talked about this wreck. I was going to get certified but didn't due to an injury and it was right after that that 3 divers died on the wreck, I know 2 were Air force and I think the third was navy but I don't really remember. This is an interesting video brings back some memories.
@hellsfirefreedomtube6984
@hellsfirefreedomtube6984 Ай бұрын
My dad was stationed at Guam in the early to mid 80’s. Took my mom with him then had me while there. I remember my dad said there was a couple of abandoned Sherman’s stuck on a hill somewhere? I wonder if they’re still there?
@BucksSuperStereoWorld
@BucksSuperStereoWorld Ай бұрын
Wow, Haleakala and her sisters Nitro and Pyro were all stricken on December 10th, 1993, then sold on March 28th, 1994 according to Wikipedia. I always wanted to be part of our US Navy because I love ships, but I am a cancer survivor (as a teenager), so no part of our armed forces would touch me when I tried to enlist. I was 18 years old, 5'10", 175 lbs, and could bench 325, but they still wouldn't take me because I had terminal cancer and I was even cleared medically, but they still wouldn't take me. This was a few months prior to 9/11, and a few days after 9/11 I was getting calls from the Air Force, the Navy, the Marines, and the Army all asking me if I would reconsider. I said wait, y'all rejected me, not the other way around...
@davidschiffer4448
@davidschiffer4448 Ай бұрын
I have dived on them multiple times. Rather cool.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 Ай бұрын
@@BucksSuperStereoWorldHow much you could bench has nothing to do with how good a sailor , soldier or marine you would be. You are clearly clueless
@Ccccccccccsssssssssss
@Ccccccccccsssssssssss Ай бұрын
@@hellsfirefreedomtube6984at least one was in 2010. Cheers!
@eddrohan4461
@eddrohan4461 Ай бұрын
I was stationed in Guam from 87 to 91 and dove these wrecks many times. Fascinating dive!
@joenewstead4848
@joenewstead4848 Ай бұрын
I remember deep sea detectives. I absolutely LOVED that show. Wanted it to continue forever
@mikereinhardt4807
@mikereinhardt4807 Ай бұрын
Interesting for sure. Thanks for taking us along and Merry Christmas!...
@AlexVanEks
@AlexVanEks Ай бұрын
Oh man I loved deep sea detectives! That's a trip down memory lane. I always got so excited when I caught an episode on TV! Honestly it's probably on KZbin somewhere, or hidden in the depths of a streaming service.
@MarkMayfield-d5k
@MarkMayfield-d5k Ай бұрын
When I was stationed on Guam back in 91-93, I got to dive Cormoran. Big ship. Where I was, by the bottom of the forward hull, I couldn't see the Tokai Maru very well. It was a bit dark down there. We could only stay down for 7 minutes because of the depth.
@BrockRuby
@BrockRuby Ай бұрын
Another great vid. Please keep them coming!!! You do a great job on your vids !
@S_A_N_D
@S_A_N_D Ай бұрын
My dad dove on these wrecks when he lived in Guam. He told me he put one foot on the Comoran and the other on the Tokai Maru. Interesting shipwrecks!
@aliens4379
@aliens4379 Ай бұрын
I had never heard of deep sea detectives, but now I want to watch it now
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky Ай бұрын
My uncle’s cousin Hans served as a engineer on the raider Thor He was stuck in Japan after it blew up And then spent the next 2 years working the harbors in a tug boat
@Ccccccccccsssssssssss
@Ccccccccccsssssssssss Ай бұрын
We lived on Guam years ago and dove on the Cormoran and the Tokai many times. There's a great book on the Cormaran called "The Flight of the Cormoran" by Herbert Ward, who rediscovered the wreck in the 1960's. After escaping from Tsingtao, Cormoran briefly sailed with Von Spee and the German East Asian Squadron
@halevans3652
@halevans3652 Ай бұрын
Both were fun dives, high on my list to take new troops when stationed there. That harbor was always murky. The anchor was the Tokai Maru per the local dive shops.
@kennethhanks6712
@kennethhanks6712 Ай бұрын
The propellor hub at 8:50 seems to show the attachment studs for a blade still intact rather than broken off with the blade possibly indicating a salvage removal.
@seaboardsystemproductions9714
@seaboardsystemproductions9714 Ай бұрын
Wow that was very interesting keep em coming have a good day!!
@davidbarnsley8486
@davidbarnsley8486 Ай бұрын
Thank you for all your great videos this year and I am looking forward to more next year Merry Christmas and happy new year 👍👍🇦🇺
@wendywhite4537
@wendywhite4537 Ай бұрын
I had never heard of her. Thank you
@hillbillytrucker8347
@hillbillytrucker8347 Ай бұрын
I've read about the Cormoran in a National Geographic article covering WW II. I don't remember when the article was written but it talks about the Tokai Maru and how they overlap each other. It's still interesting to hear about.
@J.R.in_WV
@J.R.in_WV Ай бұрын
This Cormoran sunk during WW1, maybe you were thinking of the WW2 ship with the same name and purpose, the stealth armed merchant cruiser KMS Kormoran…..that ship actually sunk the Australian navy’s HMAS Sydney before being scuttled just as the first one was due to damage sustained from the fight with Sydney.
@iamrichrocker
@iamrichrocker Ай бұрын
what are the odds? incredible..thx for the content...
@raychmielowski3038
@raychmielowski3038 Ай бұрын
I dove both of those ships several times. We used to bury ourselves in the mud under the cormoran and locate the open portholes. I have alot of stuff out of that ship.
@barrygrant2907
@barrygrant2907 Ай бұрын
I dove those wrecks about 1989-1990 while TDY at Anderson AFB.
@Spike-sk7ql
@Spike-sk7ql Ай бұрын
Used to love Deep Sea Detectives. Hell, I'm old enough to remember when the Discovery channel,and A&E were the only 2 channels that were history/science based. Let alone when the History channel had actual history on it.
@rogerriggs6055
@rogerriggs6055 Ай бұрын
There was a documentary on this several years ago, sunk at Guam, a diver died on the Cormoran looking for relics the other ship was sunk during WW2 during a air raid.
@southwestvirginiarailfan729
@southwestvirginiarailfan729 Ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. I loved watching deep sea detectives. I wish I could still find it someplace, but I've not seen it in years.
@alephalon7849
@alephalon7849 Ай бұрын
There's got to be something about the name Cormoran/Kormoran that makes its bearers surprisingly memorable in one way or another.
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard Ай бұрын
There were actually THREE LUSITANIA'S. ALL of them were wrecked. There was EVEN another TITANIC (years after the famous one). She is SO obscure (and was SO tiny), I have only seen one reference even to her EXISTENCE - but THAT came in a short article of the TITANIC COMMUTATOR (journal of the TITANIC Historical Society) in the '80's, so the story can be considered legit. There is no other mention anywhere of this other "TITANIC" that I have ever see, but, considering the source, it has to be true
@rebeccavdh4803
@rebeccavdh4803 Ай бұрын
What an interesting wreck!
@tomwarner2468
@tomwarner2468 Ай бұрын
Supposedly in the English channel, there's a picture of a ww1 u-boat with a sunken ship laying on top of it! They didn't know the identity of either or how they ended up that way!
@Tomberculosis-q1i
@Tomberculosis-q1i Ай бұрын
Well at least shes got a friend down there
@beboy12003
@beboy12003 Ай бұрын
Deep Sea detectives was an awesome show. Wish it still on the air.
@johnschofield9496
@johnschofield9496 Ай бұрын
Deep sea detectives was a fantastic program ! Just saw Richie Kohler as a guest on another diving show recently !
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Ай бұрын
13:57 I recall seeing a small bathtub in the Engineering Officers stateroom on my last ship. He had all his driving stuff in there 😂
@yhsbu
@yhsbu Ай бұрын
Shipwreck hunters value propellers a lot because they are made of bronze. I once met a guy that worked for this old crusty captain that would look for wrecks and then go cut the propellers off of them and air bag them to the surface so they could be taken to scrap. He could collect several thousand dollars per prop that way. It sounded really dangerous to do and not worth the risk of collecting a 5 or 10k in my opinion.
@thegoodgamingdragon8523
@thegoodgamingdragon8523 Ай бұрын
i wondered if something like this had ever happened
@BlitzenSpeaks
@BlitzenSpeaks Ай бұрын
I suspect the Japanese salvaged the Cormoran's screws, shafts and guns during the war. Their resources were limited, and it makes sense that they would salvage and reuse everything they could.
@chockroberty
@chockroberty 24 күн бұрын
Nope. Back in September, on our way to Sequoia National Forest, my wife and I stayed in Lindsay California. We went for a walk in the park there and found the gun from the Cormoran. I have pictures of it and the plaque that is associated with it.
@mikelakner5622
@mikelakner5622 Ай бұрын
Stationed on Guam. It’s amazing to dive the island. I love and miss the place.
@HandyMan657
@HandyMan657 Ай бұрын
Not first. Thanks again, Skynea. Take care, be safe.
@robertsperti5926
@robertsperti5926 Ай бұрын
Talking about those old shows ,it's like dogfights and greatest tank battles.yes they dramatised it but it was interesting and entertaining.
@mknewlan67
@mknewlan67 19 күн бұрын
Oh man. Loved dogfights. History channel was so good back then
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard Ай бұрын
I knew nothing of this vessel myself, but I know of no other (at least, off the top of my head) instance of one wreck "landing on top" of another. ANOTHER truly remarkable thing not mentioned: that CORMORAN'S two funnels remain still attached to the wreck (and look perfectly intact, from what I can see). The only other wreck I can think of that could claim this (again, off the top of my head), was the ANDREA DORIA, and that has long since disappeared. One COULD bring up the LUSITANIA, but, before they disintegrated, they were all detached, flattened, and lying just above the ship. Likewise, the BRITANNIC (II)'S first funnel was crushed flat and lay above the ship, detached (no idea what became of the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th funnels).
@diver6636
@diver6636 Ай бұрын
Just watched this video as I came across it. I've got some amazing pictures from my dives in Guam...any chance to do a video on the Kitzagawa Maru sunk in Apra Harbor?
@JamesBerlo
@JamesBerlo Ай бұрын
Thats so amazing !, Of Course the propeller Blades were stolen,
@nigelmorroll3343
@nigelmorroll3343 Ай бұрын
I am actually surprised with great number of ships that have sunk before ww1 during ww1 and the same with ww2 , that we don't see more ship wreaks laying close to each other. Especially any ships that wore part of any conveys.
@redcat9436
@redcat9436 Ай бұрын
The oceans are enormous.
@psychobob169
@psychobob169 Ай бұрын
Hi greetings from Scotland. Absolutely love your content hope you have an awesome festive period and can't wait to see what 2025 brings🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😊
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 Ай бұрын
2025 will probably just be another disappointment 🇺🇸
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 Ай бұрын
I thought this would be about the German WWII Surface Raider Kormoran HSK-8, that sank HMAS Sydney and was mortally wounded by the Australian cruiser herself.
@infantryattacks
@infantryattacks Ай бұрын
I dove on both wrecks multiple times. It is indeed a rewarding experience to touch both ships at the same time. The US Navy removed the gun from the Tokkai Maru. It's on the Navy base. I don't know what happened to the guns on the other ship.
@chockroberty
@chockroberty 24 күн бұрын
The gun from the Cormoran is in the park on display in Lindsay, California
@rickmo970
@rickmo970 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your historic "sleuthing" of these two wrecks - WWI Cormoran and WWII Tokai Maru!! ;-] Honestly, not much of a coincidence they landed next to each other; if/when you consider the ships were in the same mooring spot - when sunk!! ;-]]
@jimalexander8734
@jimalexander8734 Ай бұрын
Hello Skynea. For some recent high quality wreck dive videos, you may want to see Max Gleeson's YT dive on IJN destroyer Oite in Truk lagoon and several mercantile wrecks off eastern Australia
@Burninhellscrootoob
@Burninhellscrootoob Ай бұрын
There was a show about u boat wrecks in the English channel,and there were 2 u boats that landed that way too at the bottom. At the time,they couldn't be identified,but,were definitely ww1 u boats as proven by the radio masts still folded on the deck. The dive crew theorized one may have still been somewhat buoyant after sinking,and drifted along the bottom until it settled atop the other...ive no idea,but that doesn't sound feasible. Has anybody done more research on them? They were not post war surrender scuttles by the royal navy,so,i find it a very curious mystery!
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Ай бұрын
Deep submerged naval minefield? Bagged both U boats at different times during the war? If no one witnessed the explosions, how would anyone know?
@blueocean2510
@blueocean2510 Ай бұрын
Thank you, technology could be used worldwide to bring to life , vessels on the sea bed. Onshore centres could be visited by many people to view and people who lost their loved ones, when vessels sank could hold a service of remembrance. Festive Greetings Peace and Prosperity for all in 25.
@axelmalone
@axelmalone Ай бұрын
I wonder if the bathtub still has water in it all this time later🤔
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Ай бұрын
Looks like it's still filled with water. It must be extremely durable in order to stay filled all these years.
@beverlychmelik5504
@beverlychmelik5504 Ай бұрын
I got to view if from the tourist submarine that operated there.
@itagil2005
@itagil2005 Ай бұрын
Traduzir para o portugues do Brasil, foi explendido
@natebartels1444
@natebartels1444 Ай бұрын
Isn’t the a uboat under a merchant ship wreck off the coast of England?
@MrROTD
@MrROTD Ай бұрын
Therea a sunken uboat near a Colier in the Irish sea
@johnpisciotto7115
@johnpisciotto7115 Ай бұрын
Did anyone die on the Toki Maru. When she sank?
@chockroberty
@chockroberty 24 күн бұрын
The gun from the Cormoran is on display in the park in Lindsay, California. If I could I would post a picture of it and it's plaque.
@timbonjovi
@timbonjovi Ай бұрын
I20 ft to the bottom, but how deep to the shallowness part of the wrecks
@teenboy661
@teenboy661 Ай бұрын
Japan declared war on the Germans in the great war? I didn't know that
@mirthenary
@mirthenary Ай бұрын
I vaguely recollect the Deep Sea Detectives, it's been a while...
@MB-nn3jw
@MB-nn3jw Ай бұрын
THE DEEP!
@LeeBrown-b4l
@LeeBrown-b4l Ай бұрын
The Deep was shot on RMS Rhône. Salt island BVI
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 Ай бұрын
Peter Benchley???
@dylansmith1364
@dylansmith1364 Ай бұрын
Yes Deep Sea Detectives is very missed.
@Ikoraswig
@Ikoraswig Ай бұрын
I miss the old history show that was effectively the WW2 and Mongolian empire show
@billthibeault8447
@billthibeault8447 Ай бұрын
👋
@fossils-z9d
@fossils-z9d Ай бұрын
ive had to speed up the video buddy youre speaking a little to slow, great content tho as always
@lukehorning3404
@lukehorning3404 Ай бұрын
What are the chances they would go down in the same spot 😂
@thelastjohnwayne
@thelastjohnwayne Ай бұрын
Think about what are the Statistical chances of this happening?
@mikelakner5622
@mikelakner5622 Ай бұрын
Stationed on Guam. It’s amazing to dive the island. I love and miss the place.
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