The Wuling Binguo Is An $8,000 Electric Car From China

[@Josh-179]

$8,000 gets you a whole new EV in China. In most other developed countries, it buys you half of the battery pack.

[@AutoReport1]

That's a heavily subsidized price with very little margin. Outside China it's more like $20k. The competing BYD is $21k in Mexico.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@AutoReport1 "Outside" China comes with shipping, export fees and tariffs applied by the other countries. Same reason GM makes cars in China instead of making them in Detroit and shipping them to China to sell there.

[@AutoReport1]

@davidmccarthy6061 people underestimate the costs involved. But it's also market related. China is oversaturated and many competitors sell at big losses. That means BYD and Wuling also need to slash prices even though their volumes are much better. Indonesia and the Philippines Wuling competes directly only with BYD, so they can both make better margins. And since GM doesn't yet sell the electric Wuling models in Latin America, BYD doesn't need to discount.

[@Landez97]

Even with the crazy high tariffs, this would still be a good deal for $16k to $20k

[@brettgoldsmith8584]

Not being able to go above 60 mph? You couldn't safely take it on most US highways. That and China is just trying to gain market share with these prices. Even so, in a true free market, this would force legacy automakers to inovate real quick. And it would go a long way towards EV adaption and reduced emissions. I'd say it's a wash

[@денисбаженов-щ1б]

@@brettgoldsmith8584 long way who? In Norway they have only 3% of gas and diesel cars in sales - over 90% are electric! Over 60% in Sweden - and over 50% in China. They did it - from 10% to 50-90% - in 5 years.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@денисбаженов-щ1б Ignoring the fact the way Norway did it.

[@seanlee3863]

​@@brettgoldsmith8584 the car is positioned to be a city dweller, not a road trip car

[@jackzheng9190]

Ironically, the second largest shareholder of the parent company of Wuling Bingo is GM, which holds 44% of Wuling Motors.

[@tophatfab]

It's like an updated Spark EV that costs as much as used Spark EV.

[@RayNLA]

It’s actually better than than the Spark! 😂

[@Shiftheads]

2014 spark with the 400ftlbs of tq was pretty fun.

[@mrrkrr]

Love having Alyssa be the main character in some of the videos. Great video!

[@PattyTheGeek]

That's a cute little buggy. I appreciate seeing different colors and style cues. Love hearing Alyssa's opinion on things. it is nice to get a different use case perspective.

[@ferfromla]

Cheapo cars like this one have their place. I can see where this car and others like them fit nicely in urban environments and for people looking for basic, affordable transportation.

[@milohobo9186]

My son is about to turn 15 and we will be needing to look for cheap transportation for him once he gets a learner's permit. This is exactly the kind of thing that would fit his needs even if the menu stays in its native language.

[@Achillias]

8 grand for this is a steal.

[@KiRiTO72987]

yep and for most people this is a perfectly usable vehicle if this goes nation wide available and doesnt get its price tripled by tarrifs i have a feeling that they'll have a really hard time keeping these in stock

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

$16.000 In Europe.$12,000 in developing countries.

[@P2EDUARDO]

This one is not for sale in my country, Brazil, but the Seagull is 18665 dollars in my country and there are no incentives here. The seagull is the best selling EV of 2024.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

@@P2EDUARDO because BYD No competition in Brazil

[@kylereese4822]

The Wuling Mini EV is now a 4 door at around the same price....

[@kenastl]

Under 10k is perfect for an extra car for the city. Used Bolt EV or Nissan Leaf is the only decent choice right now in that price range in the US.

[@peterlai9018]

I just hope more vendors will come up with an after market solution to Leaf's battery .replacement . . .

[@cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414]

Thankfully, industry lobbying protects us from being able to buy these. I gladly pay 60k plus for an EV, if I can be sure that puts a meal on the table for a starving domestic CEO.

[@otm646]

Calling it domestic lobbying is disingenuous at best. China is massively subsidizing and dumping EVs into foreign markets. This type of economic warfare is standard for them, This is exactly what they do in the steel industry but with consumer goods instead.

[@waichungsham1578]

@@otm646 they learned it from america

[@hairychesticles1]

You should do your research on Chinese EV's before praising them. They are known for causing many deaths because thry cut corners on safety. There is a reason why they are so cheap while appearing to looknas good as they do

[@briannhinton]

Has nothing to do with CEO and everything to do with many US industries and workers. Every country does it to help manage and stabilize the local market.

[@jrharbortproductions]

​​​@@otm646 What they're doing is putting money into a void of innovation to win a market that had massive growth potential. No other country had the balls to do it. What happened to the U.S. leading technology innovation? That could have been us years ago, but look at where we ended up instead.

[@teardowndan5364]

"50kW isn't that slow." When I drive my mother's Bolt EV, I rarely go over 60kW and the Bolt is a ~40% heavier car. Most EVs have ridiculously over-spec'd motors for normal driving.

[@ultrastoat3298]

Most cars need to be "real" cars because most families don't have the budget to spend on a spare city car. They need their car to be able to do everything a gas car can do. So most EVs do not have over-spec'd motors.

[@teardowndan5364]

@@ultrastoat3298 For normal responsible driving, 60kW will get a normal electric car wherever it needs to go perfectly fine. Once at speed, you only need ~20kW to maintain highway speed, +/-5kW depending on driving conditions. With a gas car, you need an artificially larger engine just to offset the lack of low-end torque for launch. An electric car doesn't have that problem, torque is mostly flat from dead stop until whatever speed the power limit kicks in, if it ever does.

@@ultrastoat3298 No, many EVs have too much power. You don't need 0-100 km/h times of below 7 seconds for an all-day (family) car.

[@MaticTheProto]

@@ultrastoat3298 weird take

[@eish3291]

The Toyota 2 e petrol engine max power output is 50 kW so for an electric motor that's hardly slow especially acceleration.

[@temper44]

The argument that these Chinese companies get unfair state subsidies is ridiculous. How many tens of billions did GM get in their last bailout? Rivian got $6.6bn just this month in "loans" that they likely won't need to pay back. Every time a new factory is built, the states compete in throwing billions at the automakers. That's not to mention the cushy military contracts the auto companies get on the side.

[@harriettanthony7352]

Now there is 'point and score' for OP on this subject

[@RayNLA]

Don’t forget the oil company subsidies! Literally corporate welfare

[@jrharbortproductions]

If development of EVs had continued after the EV1, the U.S. could have been the vehicle technology leader with a 2 decades head start. We practically handed this win to China on a silver platter. The fact it's subsidized doesn't matter. We could have done the same. We chose not to innovate.

[@Jangocat]

It's not the same as what the communists do SMH. You know they use child labor and pay their workers dirt wages? They have no OSHA protecting workers. A couple years ago they found Apple workers living in bunk houses they couldn't leave. It's an ignorant comparison at best.

[@tomdrewenskus8167]

@@jrharbortproductionsHeck, legacy auto continues to cut their EV production because they haven’t figured out how to make them profitably.

[@shanghaidiscovery2664]

FYI, this is partly owned by General Motors.... Wonder why they never imported these in the US... you also have the Wuling Mini EVs which are 2 seater super small cars that could work in place like NYC

[@tren133]

It is because even though GM owns around 40% of Wuling, it really has no input on how Wulings are designed and built. Wulings ride on their own platforms designed to take full advantage of the local Chinese EV supply chain to build some of the cheapest cars in the Chinese market. None of it really has anything to do with GM's own platforms, supply chains, and factories, which also means GM will not be able to easily build these cars in any of its many factories scattered all over the world. For instance the recently launched Baojun Cloud is essentially a newer nicer and cheaper Chevy Bolt, so why isn't GM pumping those out in their American factories to sell in large numbers? Because the Cloud is designed and built by Wuling, using Wuling's platform and batteries and supply chain and so on, so GM can't build it in the US despite the fact that they desperately need a replacement for the Bolt.

[@leobreevoort9151]

SAIC (Shanghai Automotive) bought the Wuling car brand but not the Wuling Company around 2000. The Wuling Company still exists, it's now called Guangxi Automobile, and it makes commercial vehicles, golf carts and has a huge auto parts industry, including engines and motors. At the time of the acquisition, GM was persuaded to become an investor in SAIC-Wuling, hence the triple joint venture SGMW. SAIC has always held a majority share though. GM's contribution was as an investor, not as a technical contributor. Wuling (Guangxi Auto) remains a small shareholder because it basically 'licenses' the Wuling name. When GM went bankrupt, SAIC helped with the survival of the company, mainly helping to save its Asia operations. As a result most of GM Korea's activities (former Daewoo) moved to SGMW. The products were brought to the Chinese market under the Baojun name. GM's involvement with Baojun was investor and technical partner. Around 2018 SGMW tried to revamp the Baojun brand with radically new design and upgraded products. They even called it New Baojun for a while. The strategy was a major fail and Baojun sales tanked. Since 2022, SGMW has put New Baojun in the fridge and is revamping the brand again. This time as a more upmarket alternative to Wuling. Baojun's third iteration uses Wuling platforms and technology and has nothing to do with GM anymore. So, GM is back where it first started, as a financial investor only.

[@PeteLenz]

Great review! Love Alyssa on camera! Honestly, this is a great little car for most people. Most people don’t drive more than its range or carry more people on a daily basis. And now we’re about to have a government that will further limit our choices. Disgraceful.

[@harriettanthony7352]

We already HAVE one under King Biden; he did not allow these into the USA. No USA President ever will. They have ALL been payed off by 'the big three' and the oil oligarchs to keep out any real competition to the USA made, over priced, underwhelming cars.

[@kevtheobald]

We know this would cost more if sold in the US, but at 19,000 dollars it would still sell very well. There are buyers looking for simple, affordable, and brand new. This would connect with those buyers. For me, I would look at what used vehicle options are out there around 20,000 dollars before grabbing this. GM should be looking to bring these in with Chevrolet badges on them. The Chinese EV industry is spreading globally and Western legacy builders are feeling the heat.

[@LifeAfterLosing]

They can come back as Geo again.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

$8.000 in china . $16.000 In Europe. $12,000 in developing countries

[@kevtheobald]

@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita Keep in mind Trump-o-nomocs. If he follows through with his threats, 19,000 dollars will be the cheapest this vehicle could be in the US.

[@spencerblack3253]

Jank Boteko ❤ Didi Why can't we ever get cool cheap cars in the U.S.? Who's stopping this from happening?.?...

[@SuperShermanTanker]

Politics

[@danielzhang1916]

they can't make money off cheap cars, that's why they got rid of the subcompact vehicles

[@SoyElDiabloRojo]

Livable wages for workers.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@danielzhang1916 Yeah, they used to offer them because you'd buy a Versa, then move up to a Sentra or Altima, then keep moving up. But the boomers are the last generation that are brand loyal and even they have changed that habit.

[@cainiaowu]

Americans are too dumb to realise what they are missing out.

[@lyledal]

I sure do enjoy seeing all the cool stuff coming out of China that Americans can't buy.

[@bill_heywood]

That is so much car for $8k. Small BEVs are great fun - we just bought a VW e-Up! and it puts a smile on your face. It’s just a shame that so many legacy manufacturers are only building large expensive EVs. In Europe we are finally getting more small cheap EVs, like the Leap Motors T03 and I think they will do well. I hope BYD bring the Seagull and price it super competitively

[@keithdow8327]

Thanks!

[@StephenButlerOne]

Thats a really nice interior. Nicer than the Spring that is £15k in the uk. Iirc the cheapest ev on sale here.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

Leapmotor t03 vs Wuling bingo vs BYD segulll. And many more are Rival in China market

[@adamt195]

Even if that was 20K in the US, that would be a great city car. Seems like all the american brands (or German or Japanese brands we have in the US) would rather build large luxury sedans and SUVs than build anything budget. Even if you look at the Bolt, which was a great deal, the bolt had a 240-260mi range from a 60/66kwh battery. Its also a crossover size, and it was like 34K new (before incentives) The old Model 3 Standard Range was $39K for 272mi. The Leaf is 28K for the 150mi base model. And the leaf is "small" but its not really small like the old Spark EV. We really need a new Spark EV. Or the equivalent of an electric Mitsubishi Mirage. Cut out ALL the premium features. Cloth seats, lots of plastic. Smaller size. IDK if it could quite hit 20K, but surely 25K.

[@AlbertKnesal-e2q]

As a designer, I love the styling inside and out.

[@ronleblanc9832]

Love the grocery getter perfect

[@toyotaprius79]

Dear god we need cars like these. Fiat Panda/Kia Picanto sized and putting the Dacia Spring to shame. Sodium ion would be a big plus, maybe a "baby estate" too for extra cargo length and crucially better aero which small EVs suffer from.

[@nycameleon]

So leasing one of these in Colorado would be -2000 down and they pay for your insurance?

[@fluxfieldshow]

Love the Chinese car content we’re getting! Wish we could buy some of these cars though 😂

[@jeffs6090]

Yes!! Stupid governments forcing them out. More choices and competition is always best for consumers. I get that China isn't great with their government and humanitarian issues, but two things can exist simultaneously. Not liking that but wanting the cars here to choose from.

[@dgurevich1]

​@@jeffs6090 The reason they block them has nothing to do with humanitarian issues. It because US car companies prefer to bribe politicians to block competition over innovating and improving. In combination with bureaucracy preventing development of raw material mines for battery materials and factories in the US. The only EV company in the US that has any success is Tesla, and you can see how much politicians hate it.

[@AVB_42]

I live in asia and Americans always think that only their government applies tarrifs on foreign goods. They should come to Asia and see the tarrifs here. It's on the next level. 😂Also this car is not 8k.

[@jeffs6090]

@@AVB_42 We are all very well aware of tariffs all over the globe. That's not the issue. We don't even have the option available to have any of these here in order for tariffs to be put on them.

[@johnbecker683]

@@AVB_42 Well said.

[@martinjoyce9274]

no more Chinese government incentives to the public. factories maybe get some grants, but Wuling is already an established company. The supply chain is main reason as everything is made in china with so many brands ordering parts.

[@kbmblizz1940]

Just imagine, your 2nd car loan payment went from $650 to $150 per month. Your fuel cost for the same second car went from $200 to $50, even less if you have solar or cheap ⚡ $/Kwh. In my book, not getting an easy savings is = higher inflation.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

$8.000 in china . $16.000 In Europe. $12,000 in developing countries

[@annavariumful]

You guys REALLY should try to find an old Mitsubishi i-MiEV to review / discover. Great little EV's! I'm still driving my 2010 i-MiEV. I upgraded the battery via OZ Electric Vehicles in 2022 and now have a 200+ kilometers range, good to go for another decade. Would love to see what you think about it!!

[@brianheard4565]

Good to see. There's a Mitsu in my town but the owner doesn't want to sell . . . 😢

[@freeheeler09]

American car manufacturers other than Tesla have limited themselves to making only $100,000 monster pickups and SUVs. Chevy, Ford and Dodge don’t make anything that most Americans can or want to buy🎱

[@unclezeppy]

This is a typical 3 and 4 tier city car in China where there is probably a tollway nearby where you can drive 80-120km/h but the general speed limit is 60km/h. We are currently in that kind of area, Wuling cars are almost the only Chinese brands what we see, most are Japanese ICE cars and new Chinese EVs (at least 5 Wuling Bingos).

[@Justanaveragesteve]

The average income in China is $16,000 a year compared to $64,000 a year in the US. The price of the vehicles in China has no relation to our market. The economics are completely different.

[@wgemini4422]

That may not be true for the middle class in major cities.

[@marshallee]

China has a lot of different average incomes, the country is huge and it depends if you live in a big city or a small one (the same apply for more developed provinces)

[@yulusleonard985]

Overpaid CEOs whack the balance off.

[@SoyElDiabloRojo]

@@wgemini4422 The middle class in major cities aren't building cars.

[@packetauditor]

@@yulusleonard985 It's median not mean income.

[@breezekinght]

I have one Bingo back in China to pick up kids from school and go to groceries every day. Only 1 charge per week and the charging expense is about $30 per month, think about that🤣. There is no chance I switch back to ICE cars, period.

[@moimyselfandi]

Love having Alyssa presentation .

[@chrisdixon1056]

I like the dash, it’s retro 50’s but modern at the same time.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

$8.000 in china . $16.000 In Europe. $12,000 in developing countries

[@andemess3095]

Love the color. Think it is cute and WANT one!

[@DavidKent0407]

"No ADD in this video" says Alyssa to Kyle!

[@wong5150]

yeah i laughed - seemed low key aggro hahaha

[@timoliver8940]

And how much is Stellantis asking you to pay for a similar sized or slightly smaller Fiat 500E in the USA?

[@freeheeler09]

We need a small, affordable, EV, half ton, work pickup! Remember the old, pre-Tacoma pickups? Make it a two-seater with a 250-mile range! Thanks!

[@lesliefranklin1870]

It's interesting to see people used to reviewing expensive luxury cars, trying to review an inexpensive car that many Americans would be happy to be able to buy and drive.

[@heiner71]

Does it pass any mandatory crash tests?

[@KyleConner]

It doesn’t feel like it would 😂

[@mcsike7264]

Prob not since 50% of us citizens are fat and have a ego so the drive giant trucks and suvs

[@roydelpozo4816]

Not even close . They have their own tests over there but they are not to our standards . They said think about it this way . If your a motorcycle rider what protection do you have ? Less than this . There the idea . Affordable transportation with weather resistance.

[@techalways7076]

Yes. It will crash.

[@killerhurtalot]

@KyleConner neither would japanese kei cars 😂 but not sure why people don't pick those apart lol.

[@mattc6854]

Kyle that thing is hilarious.

[@chrisw443]

These are the cars we need here!

[@MarsPLAYStudio]

13:03 Thats why you sometimes see in germany Smart cars driving around with a sticker written on "Mercedes S Klasse Rettungskapsel" aka Mercedes S Class escape pod lol

[@alphaomega1969]

The infotainment screen is very responsive but it has a protection film which reduced respinsiveness

[@davidwill1320]

Curious what the dimensions are, compared to a 1984 Honda Civic hatch.

[@justinborysenko3885]

I would own 3 of these if I could buy them.

[@davidendres2810]

Curious how you feel about this car vs the Kandi you drove a few years ago?

[@leisurecide9478]

Kandi isnt a car, its a glorified golf cart for picking up kids in the Chinese countryside.

[@EVVolksmanID.4]

I skimmed through this video.. How are they legally driving it in the US. Is there some type of exemption for cars imported for tear-downs and benchmarking? Did I miss something?

[@danielzhang1916]

the company is letting them drive it in the US, they are not for sale yet

[@tazeat]

Foreign owned, temporary import, just like driving in from Mexico, but more work lol

[@pumpuppthevolume]

does google translate with camera work well with the menus or what

[@frankdelemos8809]

Kyle, you did the same thing when you saw the Lexus that I do when I see a 95 Acura Legend Coupe. 😂

[@AmeyoruKyo]

Americans cannot review a Chinese car without talking about the so-called government subsidy. Meanwhile, they are also spending a huge budget on subsidizing electric vehicles themselves. The fact is that every car maker can get this ‘government subsidy’ if they meet certain criteria, just like Tesla.

[@AlbertKnesal-e2q]

What is the range? I would take one @ twice the price $16,000

[@Gerry090]

What a cute little car! I'm not against the idea of pushing electric powered vehicles here but not everyone can afford 40K$ + cars. You need cheap cars like this one here in North America. We shouldn't rely on the used car market to buy a cheap car. A shame that it doesn't exist here.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

No wonder the legacy brands are so afraid!! This is all I need to get four bags of groceries from Target, pick up dinner, and the trip to the doctor.

[@benedictmarshall7031]

The Orange One will make sure you can’t enjoy the benefits of a cheap electric car. Lunacy.

[@leobreevoort9151]

Prices for Chinese cars (in China) are mostly genuine, but margins are probably rather thin. The price gap between China en US-EU increased dramatically over the last two years. There are a few reasons (one is the mature supply chain in China), but most important: Covid. Covid in US-EU -> politics decided to save the economy -> huge financial packages for companies and citizens, a few trillion in total. Post-covid: quick economic recovery due to insane amount of money available -> supply chain issues -> huge inflation, ultra high prices Covid in China -> politics decided to save human lives (extended lockdowns, death rate 10 to 20 times lower than US-EU) -> no financial packages for companies and citizens. Citizens survived on their savings. Post-covid: very slow, if any economic recovery due to no money available -> demand issues for product manufacturers -> lower prices to spike demand -> China balanced on the edge of deflation for a year, before they announced some economic stimulus. On top of that, Wuling has always been a champion of cheap cars. Their first major success was the Hongguang MPV in the early 2000s. 3-row, very basic MPV, inline 4 engines with max 100hp. This was more or less China's Beetle/2CV. Sold in the millions, still available today as 2nd gen. Prices start at around $5,000. Their second success was the Hongguang Mini EV, right in the middle of Covid. It sold near cost price (margin was in EV-credits for the manufacturer), was available for city folk (gas vehicles face registration obstacles in many urban areas), and was even below $5,000. Supplemented public transport, which wasn't very popular during the pandemic, obviously. You could even say the car started the rapid EV-transition China is in today. Their current top of the line offering is a mid-size sedan (Xingguang/Starlight), like a Toyota Camry, that's available as BEV or EREV. The BEV has a 60 kWh or so battery and isn't very powerful, but it's roomy and very cheap at $15.000. The EREV is 1 or 2 grand cheaper and has a 15 kWh or so battery for 100 km electric-only range.

[@leobreevoort9151]

By the way, EV incentives at the federal level in China ended 2 years ago. All that's remaining is an exemption of the purchase tax. This is a consumer tax of 10% (but it was lowered to 5% during covid) that goes on top of the sticker prices for gas cars. Prior to this, China had fixed EV incentives based on things like range and energy density of the battery. Much like the $7,500 incentive in the US. These incentives were already subtracted from the sticker price. So it was handled by the manufacturer. The government then reimbursed the manufacturers (paid them back the incentive they had subtracted from the sales price). This financial arrangement, with the money flow of incentives going through manufacturers instead of going through consumers (as in US and EU), has been abused by some governments to say that China paid unfair subsidies.

[@edmondov]

This is the fastest way to get EV adoption. Most people don't need monthly payments for subpar GM vehicles

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Won't help. Most people can't charge at home, work, or while out running errands. It will be a decade or longer before that changes in the U.S.

[@wontsteal]

It sounds like the build quality is like if Honda made EV's in the '80s

[@ron4274]

The dash has kind of a retro vibe with the chrome and cream color (think 50's car or diner).

[@AM562]

That car looks like if I fit 500 and a Tesla model 3 we combined to make one vehicle using the model 3 headlights and a relatively similar design of the Fiat 500

[@AutoReport1]

$8k is the Chinese price. You don't usually get one outside China for less than $18k. The base price in Indonesia is $19600 without DC fast charging. And that's reduced. The Philippine base price is $18400. Cheapest outside China I've seen is Thailand at $12250.

[@shavaughndavidson2257]

Can and i beg you for a review of every car Dcar carried to the States....even sprinkle in the plugin hybrid cars and the ICE .....i think u do have a different account that can do that

[@PianoBoy99]

Last I checked marketing & distribution costs in the united states typically cost about 1/3rd of the vehicle cost. Also safety and other market-specific requirements would likely add 3-4k onto the base cost. So you could expect that this cost would be about 16k + marketing costs (say another 6k), would bring the cost to 22k.Still a great price, but not quite the steal it looks like when looking at the in-country costs. The other question is reliability. Remember Kia and Yugo? Both came to the country as low-cost econo-boxes. The kia iterated and drove quality into the car. Yugo not so much. And then there are the Tariffs.

[@CYR1X]

Can I buy this from DCar? I'm dead serious. I understand it would probably cost double the $8k price for me but they already did the hard part getting it stateside.

[@briancole1887]

No audio/radio functionality?

[@horuscheng3476]

Its eSIM card is only available in China. Its entertainment system can used for navigation, watching videos and listening to music, just like a smart phone.

[@seanlee3863]

Review their avatr and denza z9gt if they have that one

[@jasonmorningstar7435]

How many Bingos does a Rolls Royce Spectrum cost? 🤣

[@Reittihw]

I do hope someday we get the Wutang Bongo

[@StephenButlerOne]

The xhream on brown with the faux chrome on rhe dash is a quite elegent come 50s american retro thing going on. If that had a wood wheel it would realy pop. Failing that, it would look better cream or brown. The balck is a bit jaring. Its wuite amazing im picking at the wheel colour and style on a £12k car.

[@robsquared2]

Someone needs to paint this red and yellow.

[@DiemetriX]

Hope the Firefly car reaches the US.

[@yulusleonard985]

Lol isnt D car studio is the one doing crash test? They have channel in KZbin.

[@anton_grahn]

”3-2-1 go!” *nothing happens* 😂

[@mikecarter2737]

My grandmother had a pink car a bit like that in the 1950's in CA - a Renault Dauphine. It is not like the form factor is alien to the US. But I do wonder about safety.

[@youtuberpov]

Real price would likely be 12k without subsidies. So with import excluding tariff likely 15k.

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

$8.000 in china . $16.000 In Europe. $12,000 in developing countries

[@Toby_the_Glen]

You could build cars like this in the US if the work force accepted $2 an hour?

[@davehu8829]

Chinese workers get paid about 6 or 7 usd per hour

[@coorbin]

Yes, and the work force would accept $2/hour if rent wasn't $2500/month, internet $100/month, and food $150/week. The Chinese government also heavily subsidizes these, much more than the US gov does.

[@franksun4017]

A lot of these factories are automated and doesn’t need a lot of baseline workers but rather a handful of on site engineers anyway. Cost savings mostly comes from vertical integration of its supply chain, access to abundant well educated university engineer graduates. Labour cost although is cheaper relatively speaking, is actually not that cheap anymore when compared to 20 years ago, same reason why many of the clothing are actually manufactured in Vietnam now. And to expand on that other comment, some factories provide accommodation and cafeteria food, right beside the factory on top of wages, making saving 90% of the wages in chequing accounts possible.

[@jrharbortproductions]

Assembly line workers don't add as much cost to a vehicle as you think they do, not with the amount of automation and rate at which they go through the factory.

[@gymjoedude]

That is why the Republicans want to do away with the minimum wage. Perfect job for Arkansas school kids, just what the governor has been asking for. We don't have to build them. Just buy them from China like we do with almost everything.

[@jacobcarlson4010]

Dang Kyle, I thought you were a hardcore numbers/nerd type. No mention of what the available battery capacities are, what kind of motor it uses (permanent magnet {unlikely, given the price}, induction {possible, but still unlikely}, brushed DC {probable, but would like confirmation}) or any really techie specs like that.

[@letssaylalala]

8000??? That car is priced over 24 grand in Indonesia 🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@johnpapiewski8232]

Can't be US street legal, right? Or can you get a waiver for something like this? How much would a US homologated version cost?

[@jrharbortproductions]

Add some extra safety features to make it as crash worthy as a Fiat, add in the 100% tariff, and it'll be about $20,000.

[@林振华-t4v]

​@@jrharbortproductionsA 20k EV as a option. I think the market still relative empty at this segment

[@lennartschoonaert3830]

A competitor for the Dacia Spring in Europe

[@lkuhn65]

Any idea if this vehicle could meet US Crash worthiness regulations? I somewhat doubt it.

[@Coyote.five.0]

it wouldn't, that's why these vehicles are starting to come to mexico , i live next to a border and i can see alot of byd and other Chinese cars thats wouldn't hold up to american standards or crash test that we have here .

[@Lucas-wp2ph]

@@Coyote.five.0 That is funny because Chinese cars are safer in Euro N cap than Mercedes and Volvo for example🤔

[@Coyote.five.0]

@@Lucas-wp2ph i know but not here once again in the u.s.a they are good for third world countries .

[@killerhurtalot]

@@Coyote.five.0 US crash standards are less stringent than EU standards 😂

[@waichungsham1578]

you can see the crash test results of this model car on youtube

[@newworldodor2641]

Time to say goodbye to the 2 connector solution for AC and DC charging. Just use one connector.

[@-Jethro-]

Yep, that’s NACS (Tesla connector) and the industry claims to be moving to it.

[@林振华-t4v]

​@@-Jethro- only North America. Europe and Asia are still go ahead with their own plug type. That say, the combo can integrate in 1 plug as well.

[@-Jethro-]

@@林振华-t4v True, I was just thinking of the US (and Canada?)

[@林振华-t4v]

​@@-Jethro-yep, Canada is going NACS. As if we have any option. 😂

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

Please review Wuling air mini

[@cecilmartin448]

This would have been a great car for the I90 surge.

[@ericn3221]

A review without opening the frunk? That's a first.

[@elcarmi]

The bingo is an old design. Ask for a dongfeng nammi 01, byd seagull or geely geometry e. All in the same price bracket

[@elcarmi]

We have all options here in Costa Rica and no one buys the bingo

[@Digwind]

Infotainment on this 8 grand car is less laggy than on ford mustang mach e

[@Longsnowsm]

Affordable city cars would be awesome. It is a bargain. You can't buy a golf cart for that in the US! Let's import them as "golf carts"!

[@tazeat]

All the modern kei cars are imported this way, generally need to be limited to 45 mph and a few things. (Many remove the speed limiter after import). The older kei stuff >25yo gets imported as antique to get the nhtsa/EPA exemptions and is imported as a road car

[@PurpleSideBlack]

If I could get this for 8k USD ((11k CDN) +Tax, I would buy it as long as I could get to work and back daily (150km round trip) in the winter on one charge. I could keep the kilometers down on my Tesla. These would sell like hot cakes.

[@林振华-t4v]

😂Should be ok for 150 km as long as deep snow covered.

[@steinmar2]

Nobody in Europe drives the BYD Seagull, sadly ^^ It will probably launch in 2025

[@monaezytwo6513]

Slap some huge tariffs on the covid cars. We don't want or need them here in the USA.

[@ryuken7999]

Is it crazy to say man of culture here? 😂

[@ChrisParayno]

Ok but is it US legal? Thats the issue with all of these cheap EVs. The rest of the world has them, yet we get these expensive ones that no one really likes.

[@yumingzhao5577]

👍🏻Alyssa👍🏻

[@artboymoy]

I"m sure people would buy it for $16K.

[@tazeat]

I wish we'd incentivize these small vehicles, I look at that and just think of all the taxes and insurance you'd have to spend just to keep it around. Flat EV fees and insurance and everything else, I bet would be no less than 800 a year in WA.

[@scarter9447]

Id rather roll in that than a cybertruck :-)

[@johnpoldo8817]

The US could build cars priced this low when UAW is willing to work for $2-4/hr.. That’s what the average auto worker makes in China. And working conditions are extremely harsh with minimal AC or heat. It’s common to see workers quit. You can’t compare US and China cost of living.

[@calvinang1]

It's about efficiency, its end robotics automation for automotive manufacturing in China. Second, investment into end to end supply chain. Third, economy of scale. Fourth, competitiin from many internal car manufacturers. Fifth, excellence in innovation. Sixth, abundant supply of talent/engineers. Did I miss out on any other factors? Do you really think China hires all its engineers by paying hourly wages similar to that of McDonald's employees in the US with minimum AC working environment and banging their EV production with a sledge hammer similar to the era when Henry Ford manufacturers cars. You must also imagine iPhones are being made similarly in China. Good Lord

[@tat3179]

Dude, in China the use robots. That is why their products are so cheap. Labour is only a fraction of the reason why it is cheap. You westerners have absolutely no idea how Chinese car industry works. You can’t understand how they utterly dominate the industry. That is why you people are fucked.😂

[@horuscheng3476]

There are many videos on KZbin in which foreign youtubers visit Chinese automobile factories. Don't live in stereotypes. Chinese workers have relatively low salaries, but their cost of living is also low

[@OnTheRocks71]

Finally, a new car I can afford. 😂😪

[@林振华-t4v]

😂But if you are in the free world (whatever that means) US or canada. You can buy it.