Pick up The Trial of Jean Grey here: amzn.to/2pzdYK7
@rocker000007 жыл бұрын
LOL at skipping Iceman. Sal knows that is NOT a can of worms they want to open on Back Issues...
@GitShiddy7 жыл бұрын
166 episodes in & Ben still confuses DC & Marvel characters. Never change Ben!
@Luminous.Productions4 жыл бұрын
@@OllyRoger but you would think that after 166 episodes. Now over 300 he would know the differences.
@Evyscreations7 жыл бұрын
Trying to make sense of X-Men continuity is like trying to unravel 40 years worth of earbuds that have been rolling around in a dryer set on ludicrous speed.
@GUNDAMSTARX7 жыл бұрын
Jean's original and only power was limited telekenisis. She would gain telepathic abilities some time later by Xavier "sharing" his telepathy with her, but this would be retconed with the explanation being Xavier sealed it away because she couldn't control it at a young age. The time displaced Jean, for some reason, gains her telepathy earlier and reads people's minds A lot without permission, to their dismay.
@interregnum_7 жыл бұрын
If Jean isn't at fault for what the Phoenix did through her, then Cyclops is equally as innocent of his crimes while being Phoenix. Which renders All-New X-Men's core concept entirely moot. Which...makes sense, considering where it ends up.
@ctl69856 жыл бұрын
TheDoubleHELO I agree. I hate that they just shit on Cyclops when Wolverine has murdered plenty of people. And hell how many times have they forgiven Magneto?
@JoshMunroe4 жыл бұрын
I love how Uatu's hobby is just telling off the X-Men. "Hey Wolverine, get the F out of my moon base." "Hey Beast, you're a selfish a**hole and deserve nothing good." "Hey Apocalypse, come hang out so we can dunk on how much of an idiot Professor X is for creating Onslaught."
@NewPhoneWhoThis527 жыл бұрын
the moral of this story...........Beast fucked up lol
@robertwild94477 жыл бұрын
"The only good Skrull is a dead Skrull!" - Ethan
@robertwild94477 жыл бұрын
At 24:01
@jonjons40363 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robertwild94473 жыл бұрын
@@jonjons4036 I completely forgot about this 😂
@Buckpwns7 жыл бұрын
"wait does wolverine want to bang Cyclops? the answer is yes" lol I can't stop laughing lol oh my God!
@dannyhoffman3635 Жыл бұрын
And now it’s all but confirmed haha
@Crimsonknight7007 жыл бұрын
This episode was great loved The Skrulls diatribe. " What's the differance between banging a Skrull and Mystique", I died.
@kurtoogle45767 жыл бұрын
I will never be able to see cyclops again without thinking..."punch beams"
@dn22pkkdd4762 жыл бұрын
"Punch Beams" Form the "Punch Dimension"
@gangofheroes7 жыл бұрын
it be cool if they just give Beast the power shift between his various forms with each giving him a boost in his physical attributes like Ape Beast be his strongest form, Cat Beast be his agile form and Horse Beast be his fastest form.
@sirtoby49397 жыл бұрын
On a side note: The Shiar seem mightily traumatized by the whole Phoenix ordeal. Don't seem to bothered by the full-scale war with the Inhuman ruled Kree Empire... Hm. Bendis's headcanon be weird.
@KennethKralyJr7 жыл бұрын
Jean Grey is a great character when she is written well. Last few X-Men comic series of recent time she has acted out of character a bit.
@hexbug97377 жыл бұрын
to be fair this is not normal universe jean so this might be in character for her
@austinskywalker57037 жыл бұрын
The 10 minute set-up (so funny btw) just reminded me how messed up this era of Marvel is. Secret Wars would've been a great time to hit a reset, or even a semi-reset. But the time-displaced X-Kids are STILL floating around goddamn it. All on different teams no doubt.
@ctl69856 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand the Cyclops hate. He's my favorite X-Man.
@ChrisLamia2 жыл бұрын
Cyclops was right.
@JengoFate2 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen, most fans of the x men love or at least respect cyclops, most of the hate tends to come from people who wouldn’t really call them self x fan.
@ChrisLamia2 жыл бұрын
@@JengoFate This is exactly it. I don't think a lot of non X-Men fans really know the intricacies and nuances of the character. Most probably only know him from TAS or the movies where he was either boring or intentionally made to look like shit in order to prop up Wolverine and make him cooler.
@Randomaccount9470 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisLamiaxmen is the only comic that has never been meant for casuals . I love them
@BIGGREENWIENIE7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh Wednesday! Sal and the gang with more gold. Y'all need a Netflix show or some shit.
@ZiggyGamma7 жыл бұрын
0:15 HOLD UP YOU AINT ABOUT TO JUST KEEP GOING LIKE YOU DIDN'T GET NEW NAME CARDS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN Comic Pop stepping their game up
@BoingoRider3 жыл бұрын
ah man that end tangent is really funny in hindsight with the hickman era implied foursome.
@corbinjones49367 жыл бұрын
The only thing im taking away from this is that Sal would be ok with banging a skrull lol. #Bentai
@corbinjones49367 жыл бұрын
Very true and at least you could take turns with your egg baby lol
@priceyyeti40587 жыл бұрын
Ah, nothing like finishing a podcast with Professor Thorgi only to find a notification on Back Issues. Man it's good to be a nerd.
@kristiannesheim66167 жыл бұрын
Pricey Yeti443980 I actually did the exact same thing. Smart man
@3wheelyboy7 жыл бұрын
they revealed in the X-men Blue that the reason the timeline isn't fucked is because they're from an ultimate reality. Just because it wasn't complicated as it was
@monstermanalex13138 ай бұрын
When you said let's not get into Iceman, I cackled.
@Drow5ap7 жыл бұрын
my only problem with this book was that bendis just acts like the infinity event never happend. where the entire universe railed behind earth especially gladiator I hate that bendis ignores continuity all the time lol
@hopekeeley2122 Жыл бұрын
The end part is real funny, especially considering that I’m like 90% sure they’re all hooking up in krakoa right now
@artimissbarker16907 жыл бұрын
you should do a back issues on war of kings ( vulcan vs black bolt)
@BIGGREENWIENIE7 жыл бұрын
Wow. I thought you peaked with the Batman/Dredd episode. This is the funniest thing I've watched in a long time. Thank you guys
@adeadphish7931 Жыл бұрын
Sal perfectly summed up the absolute burnout with Bendis's Marvel books in the mid 2010s. His work was pretty much comic book junk food and it got old in large quantities, to the point where i remember dropping right as Secret Wars soft reset everything
@resioil17 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that All New X-Men flies in the face of all X-Men comics that come before it, but I enjoyed the first few volumes of that series
@mobsta1637 жыл бұрын
Bendis' guardian of the galaxy? well, i am a masochist anyway. also, Cyclops Was Right!
@spencerbrus63437 жыл бұрын
kakyoin MILF HUNTER That's why they call him Rightclops!
@mobsta1637 жыл бұрын
***** so i guess you never read Dan Abnetts and Andy lannings guardians?
@mobsta1637 жыл бұрын
***** it's amazing and the definitive run on them but you'll need to read annihilation and annihilation conquest so you can understand it
@victorajiboye22847 жыл бұрын
kakyoin MILF HUNTER 9
@thehandsomecrayon66767 жыл бұрын
And now Cyclops is with the Champions
@valiantshadow897 жыл бұрын
I thought Jean did have telekinesis? I remember in the first-ever issue, there was a panel where she was putting a book back on a shelf. WITH HER MIIIIIIND....! I could be wrong, though, it's been fucking *years*. Lol
LOL Sal isn't touching the Iceman arc :) I love it
@bgajdek7 жыл бұрын
Let me get this right, Skrull vaginas & Furries and it's not even the half way... I love this show.
@BIGGREENWIENIE7 жыл бұрын
Haha! Gamora!? Fuckin' Ben!
@newspooiechannel7 жыл бұрын
I haven't read new X-Men stuff in almost 20 years, but damn this podcast had me laughing as you described this storyline.
@d.c.stranded71347 жыл бұрын
Yeesh, I know y'all ain't too big on Cyclops, but I read that scene where he confronted Gladiator much differently than y'all did.
@BrightBlue9255 жыл бұрын
I love you for referencing the Scott/Logan ship. It's a guilty pleasure of mine.
@rodney2x487 жыл бұрын
I fucking hated how dumb this story was. It has fun parts, but the whole story falls apart real fast.
@oatmat7 жыл бұрын
You Know I had all of Bendis's All New and Uncanny X-Men run ( Including Cyclops vol 1+2, No More Humans, Battle of The Atom, The Trial of Jean Grey and Black Vortex) and was thinking about sending it to Sal for the longest time, and then I thought Naaah Sal would never do it, so I donated it to the Library( I liked a lot of it, but was ultimately left disappointed)......... lol
@Metaldeth3167 жыл бұрын
that was fucking genius guys...how Wolvie wants to secretly bone Cyclops lol. Keep up the great work.
@deltaprime35097 жыл бұрын
What reason the reason why they decided to have star lord date shadowcat? Also in this universe she has dated two guys name Peter and in the ultimate universe she dated Peter Parker, so from I getting that in the multiverse kitty pyrde has a Peter name fetish.
@deltaprime35097 жыл бұрын
manuel cabeza he does without good build up and making reader believe that these two be a good and than build it up than execute in way that makes fans happy but bendus doesn't do that he rushes it and will pair up characters that don't need to be in romantic relationship with each other. I think a lot writers at marvel ignore a lot good ideas for couples if they do have one they don't do anything with it and it's left in the air.
@rodney2x487 жыл бұрын
Because Kitty is Bendis' waifu. That's probably all there is to it.
@YourMarvelFan7 жыл бұрын
They were good together tho.
@jok86er7 жыл бұрын
DeltaPrime350 i like Kitty and Peter Parker together
@deltaprime35097 жыл бұрын
Fallen Star sometime others too but that the writing for isn't going be good every time
@jeremyjohnson90537 жыл бұрын
a classic back issues. Sal and Ben at their finest... of course Ethan seemed distracted by his side project Getting Physical with Ethan. Can't wait for the next episode of Getting Physical with Ethan.
@rokane27 жыл бұрын
No mention of Vulcan in the Origin of the Summer brothers? Ethan and Ben would have loved how convoluted he is.
@bennettsink10363 жыл бұрын
“Earth is quarantined” … Ben is a prophet
@ScriptZac7 жыл бұрын
Gilmore Girls references?! In my Back Issues? Fun fact: Sean Gunn from Gilmore Girls is the brother of James Gunn, who directs Guardians of the Galaxy. He even plays Kraglin in those movies!
@dragontears7 жыл бұрын
Skrull relationship in Runaways is fantastic.
@IDERKAMN7 жыл бұрын
dmeadville young avengers too! The young superheroes are more accepting of skrull kind.
@dragontears7 жыл бұрын
Haha, totally forgot about Hulkling! I'm ashamed of myself!
@hexbug97377 жыл бұрын
to be fair it was mostly older heroes that were affected by secret invasion
@dragontears7 жыл бұрын
HexBug 97 They weren't exactly proSkrull preSI either. Granted, it is hard when you fight a lot, but I mean, America got over WWII anger and fell in love with German cars and Japanese monster movies. Marvel Earthlings can overcome Secret Invasion.
@hexbug97377 жыл бұрын
dmeadville not after chaos war
@superioridiot38467 жыл бұрын
41:55 good ol' gamera reference
@KennethKralyJr7 жыл бұрын
Hello Sal and ComicPop , I enjoy and like your Back Issues videos. Could you do a Back Issues on Adventures of Supergirl from DC Comics ? It's a comic series both digital and print based on The CW Supergirl TV Series written by Sterling Gates. That would be a good Back Issues show if you did one on that comic series. Thanks Sal and ComicPop and keep up the great work !!!
@Sp0rkXNinja7 жыл бұрын
I was hoping since Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 came out Sal would do the Abbnett run or Annihilation. Then I saw the notification. I would rather hear Sal talk about Bendis' run the more I think about it.
@jeangreyfan41484 жыл бұрын
Jean Grey Psionic Forme is Iconic😍
@kylelundy8027 жыл бұрын
Skrull Lives Matter
@mandy_death24U7 жыл бұрын
I like how Sal laughs quietly
@dentonfilms84467 жыл бұрын
"Had a Thor." That line cracked me up.
@liverusrock67897 жыл бұрын
Denton Films Same
@darknite6537 жыл бұрын
I actually recall someone mentioning that Kitty's fixation with Peters is that Peter was the name of her hamster.
@flywheelshyster5 жыл бұрын
schrodinger kittens! love it! bless you sal, you bring joy to the world
@QuentinKhali5 жыл бұрын
This book reminded me of a modern day superhero film like avengers. I could see this being a film theme in a MCU movie staring Jean
@ojinrvk7 жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when you put the picture of Vance Astro up there!
@thb19977 жыл бұрын
the All-New Xmen was so good at the beginning and kind of turned into a mess at the end. aka every thing Bendis touches nowadays
@michaelbrower71417 жыл бұрын
If Gladiator had killed young Jean, then Jean would have never become Phoenix and therefor never have repaired the M'Kraan crystal, therein saving the entire universe. A huge con there.
@nintendofan60997 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed this story when it came out and All new x-men on its own. But I was also mad at beast lol. He was a hypocrite.
@deazy64536 жыл бұрын
Now Marvel needs the rights to Space Jam lol. I would give that a try 😂😂😂
@Sicod792 жыл бұрын
Double Jeopardy! Order in the court! Voir Dire!
@BIGGREENWIENIE7 жыл бұрын
"What's your power? Oh, you project a punch...." lol
@ctl69856 жыл бұрын
Staff Sergeant Drew Matseshe Yeah a punch that can destroy a mountain
@cicerhoe79837 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this and the commentry😂😂
@trans3017 жыл бұрын
Hilarious episode! Just letting you know - Jean could move objects with her mind in the original comics - she would move books and stuff. I don't think her psychic abilities came until later.
@kazen167 жыл бұрын
that theory x23 and scott tho... i was lol on my desk...
@nintendofan60997 жыл бұрын
Also I was a fan of jean grey up until the gay incident with Bobby lol. I couldn't defend her after that. It was like yep she's a bitch. I also liked how kitty got overprotective of jean for no reason when older Scott was talking to her in uncanny X-men. I was like what was she expecting? Scott to sleep with a underage Jean? Hmm wait it is Scott. :)
@michaelbrower71417 жыл бұрын
It may not have been the best way, however, a real bitch would have outed him in front of everyone and made him feel like he's just wrong and would have ridiculed him. At least Jean made it a private moment between them. Also remember, they're teenagers and teens do not always make the best decisions or handle things in the most appropriate way. Adult Jean wouldn't have even said anything, I think we can agree on that. I believe teen Jean's heart was in the right place, just executed poorly. Not trying to hate on Emma Frost, but she's done far worse then any mistake teen Jean has made--at least Jean's been apologetic of her errors, not many characters are
@vicentegeonix7 жыл бұрын
Michael Brower Thats an interesting way to defend a character xD lol
@nintendofan60997 жыл бұрын
Michael Brower it was still handled poorly no matter what by the writers. It made both characters look bad.
@STLVOSS7 жыл бұрын
LOL Lets not get into Iceman
@STLVOSS7 жыл бұрын
ChiefDaly they actually did get into it if you look at the tangents Playlist. the video is called Jean grey is a jerk
@pleffman3 жыл бұрын
Its actually pretty funny if you think about it Beast and Beast boy from dc both have their designs and power sets changed to slightly different furry varients every now and then like beast boys red then hes a big hulk monster oh and in another universe he can turn into different furry people because we need to corner that market
@Ike_of_pyke7 жыл бұрын
I'm a skrull fan.... But yeah no old skrulls were kind of monsters in terms of their plans(skrull-kree war related plans )
@austinskywalker57037 жыл бұрын
Wait, they reference Age of Ultron? I thought that was out of continuity? Or is it in continuity for Bendis books?
@canukforce7 жыл бұрын
people should see Professor X less as the Martin Luther King of the marvel universe and more like Rick Sanchez.
@cupcakekiller7 жыл бұрын
Love B.M.B. Uncanny/ All New run
@joshuamcchristian53657 жыл бұрын
Gobbledygook lol
@williamgazca9637 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload comic pop
@FakeItWithMe3 жыл бұрын
Love you guys.
@shadowanderson20046 ай бұрын
They did time travel so that Jean could “accidentally” look in young Bobby’s mind and “find out” he’s gay so that the older Bobby is also gay
@HongKongJewy7 жыл бұрын
Focusing the totality of her telepathic might: i.redd.it/zvsphgonc4zy.jpg
@fubuwaru16917 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, I forgot that this crossover exists lol
@brandonwillis92677 жыл бұрын
Early Back Issues on my birthday. Thanks Comicpop!!!
@comicpop7 жыл бұрын
+brandon willis Happy birthday!
@brandonwillis92677 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@dracowheelz57 жыл бұрын
The only way Bendis can out Bendis himself is if he retconned Jean Grey's middle name into Peter and have her and Kitty Pryde hook up and become an Omni-God couple that everyone loves and adores and can do no wrong.... Shit. That's gonna happen, isn't it?
@matthewengebritson97777 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the Starlord/Gamora relationship from the MCU, than them not a couple in the couple in comics. They got pretty good chemistry in those movies.
@creed87126 жыл бұрын
Dodged the bullet that is Iceman
@azlaneatalot6 ай бұрын
Bendis’ X-Men run was a mess. He doesn’t know how to write kids. Made them very annoying.
@BobButtins7 жыл бұрын
I'd love you to do DNA GotG! Forget the crap that's come out the last 5 years.
@johnjackson2491 Жыл бұрын
Come on guys ! What about Evil Ernie . Evil Ernie was awesome.
@3dagalathor7 жыл бұрын
I like all that gobbledygook, that was the GotG team I first read about.
@mr.watkins60147 жыл бұрын
cause it's hank Mccoy soooo fuck em lol secondary mutation is to look worse every story arc
@mttylerdurden97 жыл бұрын
the skrull Kill crew, didn't Grant Morrison and Mark Millar write that book?
@kaptinbadrukk26687 жыл бұрын
M.T.KaiserSoze Yeah 95 extreme Scottish crossover fresh off their 2000ad days
@MrShadowRage7 жыл бұрын
yeaaaaah!!!!!🙌🙌🙌🙌
@onifrancis15667 жыл бұрын
So glad someone called out that All New Xmen bullshit for what it was
@nathaniellee22637 жыл бұрын
Okay I am so freaking confused here Jean was from the original X-men which means with them being in the present mean no one would or should remember any of those event.
@thesavageJ7 жыл бұрын
and this meant absolutely nothing thanks for this Bendis... what happen to you man?
@FatSnorlax7 жыл бұрын
What the hell is wrong with Gladiator? lol
@EhNoLove7 жыл бұрын
Sitting here watching Back Issues; Great episode, and all i can think is that a Bat Woman / Angela crossover would be awesome. Callin' it for the next Marvel / DC crossover.
@kyrosvlar7 жыл бұрын
Guardians 3000 is a cool team.
@renzorro20017 жыл бұрын
Just picked this up at a con, I can finally break into Marvel comics with an interesting sounding story without too much backstory! Thanks guys, now my friends will only berate me for not reading any of the ultimate universe!!!