The X-Men versus The Guardians of the Galaxy! | The Trial of Jean Grey

[@comicpop]

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[@rocker00000]

LOL at skipping Iceman. Sal knows that is NOT a can of worms they want to open on Back Issues...

[@Aliaskitfisto]

Trying to make sense of X-Men continuity is like trying to unravel 40 years worth of earbuds that have been rolling around in a dryer set on ludicrous speed.

[@robertwild9447]

"The only good Skrull is a dead Skrull!" - Ethan

[@robertwild9447]

At 24:01

[@jonjons4036]

Thank you!

[@robertwild9447]

@@jonjons4036 I completely forgot about this 😂

[@GitShiddy]

166 episodes in & Ben still confuses DC & Marvel characters. Never change Ben!

[@LuminousFilm]

@@OllyRoger but you would think that after 166 episodes. Now over 300 he would know the differences.

[@GUNDAMSTARX]

Jean's original and only power was limited telekenisis. She would gain telepathic abilities some time later by Xavier "sharing" his telepathy with her, but this would be retconed with the explanation being Xavier sealed it away because she couldn't control it at a young age. The time displaced Jean, for some reason, gains her telepathy earlier and reads people's minds A lot without permission, to their dismay.

[@interregnum_]

If Jean isn't at fault for what the Phoenix did through her, then Cyclops is equally as innocent of his crimes while being Phoenix. Which renders All-New X-Men's core concept entirely moot. Which...makes sense, considering where it ends up.

[@ctl6985]

TheDoubleHELO I agree. I hate that they just shit on Cyclops when Wolverine has murdered plenty of people. And hell how many times have they forgiven Magneto?

[@kurtoogle4576]

I will never be able to see cyclops again without thinking..."punch beams"

[@Crimsonknight700]

This episode was great loved The Skrulls diatribe. " What's the differance between banging a Skrull and Mystique", I died.

[@dragontears]

Skrull relationship in Runaways is fantastic.

[@IDERKAMN]

dmeadville young avengers too! The young superheroes are more accepting of skrull kind.

[@dragontears]

Haha, totally forgot about Hulkling! I'm ashamed of myself!

[@hexbug9737]

to be fair it was mostly older heroes that were affected by secret invasion

[@dragontears]

HexBug 97 They weren't exactly proSkrull preSI either. Granted, it is hard when you fight a lot, but I mean, America got over WWII anger and fell in love with German cars and Japanese monster movies. Marvel Earthlings can overcome Secret Invasion.

[@hexbug9737]

dmeadville not after chaos war

[@gangofheroes]

it be cool if they just give Beast the power shift between his various forms with each giving him a boost in his physical attributes like Ape Beast be his strongest form, Cat Beast be his agile form and Horse Beast be his fastest form.

[@BoingoRider]

ah man that end tangent is really funny in hindsight with the hickman era implied foursome.

[@mandy_death24U]

I like how Sal laughs quietly

[@ctl6985]

I'll never understand the Cyclops hate. He's my favorite X-Man.

[@ChrisLamia]

Cyclops was right.

[@Jengo-Fox]

From what I’ve seen, most fans of the x men love or at least respect cyclops, most of the hate tends to come from people who wouldn’t really call them self x fan.

[@ChrisLamia]

@@Jengo-Fox This is exactly it. I don't think a lot of non X-Men fans really know the intricacies and nuances of the character. Most probably only know him from TAS or the movies where he was either boring or intentionally made to look like shit in order to prop up Wolverine and make him cooler.

[@Randomaccount9470]

​@@ChrisLamiaxmen is the only comic that has never been meant for casuals . I love them

[@JoshMunroe]

I love how Uatu's hobby is just telling off the X-Men. "Hey Wolverine, get the F out of my moon base." "Hey Beast, you're a selfish a**hole and deserve nothing good." "Hey Apocalypse, come hang out so we can dunk on how much of an idiot Professor X is for creating Onslaught."

[@austinskywalker5703]

The 10 minute set-up (so funny btw) just reminded me how messed up this era of Marvel is. Secret Wars would've been a great time to hit a reset, or even a semi-reset. But the time-displaced X-Kids are STILL floating around goddamn it. All on different teams no doubt.

[@bennettsink1036]

“Earth is quarantined” … Ben is a prophet

[@superioridiot3846]

41:55 good ol' gamera reference

[@jeremyjohnson9053]

a classic back issues. Sal and Ben at their finest... of course Ethan seemed distracted by his side project Getting Physical with Ethan. Can't wait for the next episode of Getting Physical with Ethan.

[@ZiggyGamma]

0:15 HOLD UP YOU AINT ABOUT TO JUST KEEP GOING LIKE YOU DIDN'T GET NEW NAME CARDS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN Comic Pop stepping their game up

[@sirtoby4939]

On a side note: The Shiar seem mightily traumatized by the whole Phoenix ordeal. Don't seem to bothered by the full-scale war with the Inhuman ruled Kree Empire... Hm. Bendis's headcanon be weird.

[@monstermanalex1313]

When you said let's not get into Iceman, I cackled.

[@BrightBlue925]

I love you for referencing the Scott/Logan ship. It's a guilty pleasure of mine.

[@KennethKralyJr]

Jean Grey is a great character when she is written well. Last few X-Men comic series of recent time she has acted out of character a bit.

[@hexbug9737]

to be fair this is not normal universe jean so this might be in character for her

[@dentonfilms8446]

"Had a Thor." That line cracked me up.

[@liverusrock6789]

Denton Films Same

[@Buckpwns]

"wait does wolverine want to bang Cyclops? the answer is yes" lol I can't stop laughing lol oh my God!

[@dannyhoffman3635]

And now it’s all but confirmed haha

[@resioil1]

I appreciate that All New X-Men flies in the face of all X-Men comics that come before it, but I enjoyed the first few volumes of that series

[@BIGGREENWIENIE]

"What's your power? Oh, you project a punch...." lol

[@ctl6985]

Staff Sergeant Drew Matseshe Yeah a punch that can destroy a mountain

[@priceyyeti4058]

Ah, nothing like finishing a podcast with Professor Thorgi only to find a notification on Back Issues. Man it's good to be a nerd.

[@kristiannesheim6616]

Pricey Yeti443980 I actually did the exact same thing. Smart man

[@thehandsomecrayon6676]

And now Cyclops is with the Champions

[@Drow5ap]

my only problem with this book was that bendis just acts like the infinity event never happend. where the entire universe railed behind earth especially gladiator I hate that bendis ignores continuity all the time lol

[@ojinrvk]

I laughed out loud when you put the picture of Vance Astro up there!

[@QuranKhaliBell]

This book reminded me of a modern day superhero film like avengers. I could see this being a film theme in a MCU movie staring Jean

[@newspooiechannel]

I haven't read new X-Men stuff in almost 20 years, but damn this podcast had me laughing as you described this storyline.

[@BIGGREENWIENIE]

Wow. I thought you peaked with the Batman/Dredd episode. This is the funniest thing I've watched in a long time. Thank you guys

[@NewPhoneWhoThis52]

the moral of this story...........Beast fucked up lol

[@adeadphish7931]

Sal perfectly summed up the absolute burnout with Bendis's Marvel books in the mid 2010s. His work was pretty much comic book junk food and it got old in large quantities, to the point where i remember dropping right as Secret Wars soft reset everything

[@3wheelyboy]

they revealed in the X-men Blue that the reason the timeline isn't fucked is because they're from an ultimate reality. Just because it wasn't complicated as it was

[@artimissbarker1690]

you should do a back issues on war of kings ( vulcan vs black bolt)

[@Sp0rkXNinja]

I was hoping since Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 came out Sal would do the Abbnett run or Annihilation. Then I saw the notification. I would rather hear Sal talk about Bendis' run the more I think about it.

[@BIGGREENWIENIE]

Ahhh Wednesday! Sal and the gang with more gold. Y'all need a Netflix show or some shit.

[@hopekeeley2122]

The end part is real funny, especially considering that I’m like 90% sure they’re all hooking up in krakoa right now

[@corbinjones4936]

The only thing im taking away from this is that Sal would be ok with banging a skrull lol. #Bentai

[@corbinjones4936]

Very true and at least you could take turns with your egg baby lol

[@mobsta163]

Bendis' guardian of the galaxy? well, i am a masochist anyway. also, Cyclops Was Right!

[@spencerbrus6343]

kakyoin MILF HUNTER That's why they call him Rightclops!

[@mobsta163]

***** so i guess you never read Dan Abnetts and Andy lannings guardians?

[@mobsta163]

***** it's amazing and the definitive run on them but you'll need to read annihilation and annihilation conquest so you can understand it

[@victorajiboye2284]

kakyoin MILF HUNTER 9

[@Yosamania1337]

Sal said "yet".... there is a hope

[@cicerhoe7983]

I absolutely love this and the commentry😂😂

[@brandonwillis9267]

Early Back Issues on my birthday. Thanks Comicpop!!!

[@comicpop]

+brandon willis Happy birthday!

[@brandonwillis9267]

Thank you!!!

[@RedTailedSmeargle]

The first 5 minutes of this is gold

[@rokane2]

No mention of Vulcan in the Origin of the Summer brothers? Ethan and Ben would have loved how convoluted he is.

[@darrenfromwales7978]

second back issues of the day. good times to be had by all. good work guys and gals.

[@flywheelshyster]

schrodinger kittens! love it! bless you sal, you bring joy to the world

[@ScriptZac]

Gilmore Girls references?! In my Back Issues? Fun fact: Sean Gunn from Gilmore Girls is the brother of James Gunn, who directs Guardians of the Galaxy. He even plays Kraglin in those movies!

[@oatmat]

I remember reading this a few years ago, never thought I'd see it on back issues

[@d.c.stranded7134]

Yeesh, I know y'all ain't too big on Cyclops, but I read that scene where he confronted Gladiator much differently than y'all did.

[@valiantshadow89]

I thought Jean did have telekinesis? I remember in the first-ever issue, there was a panel where she was putting a book back on a shelf. WITH HER MIIIIIIND....! I could be wrong, though, it's been fucking *years*. Lol

[@valiantshadow89]

"Honey Bendis don't give a fuck."

[@monstermanalex1313]

LOL Sal isn't touching the Iceman arc :) I love it

[@oatmat]

You Know I had all of Bendis's All New and Uncanny X-Men run ( Including Cyclops vol 1+2, No More Humans, Battle of The Atom, The Trial of Jean Grey and Black Vortex) and was thinking about sending it to Sal for the longest time, and then I thought Naaah Sal would never do it, so I donated it to the Library( I liked a lot of it, but was ultimately left disappointed)......... lol

[@deltaprime3509]

What reason the reason why they decided to have star lord date shadowcat? Also in this universe she has dated two guys name Peter and in the ultimate universe she dated Peter Parker, so from I getting that in the multiverse kitty pyrde has a Peter name fetish.

[@deltaprime3509]

manuel cabeza he does without good build up and making reader believe that these two be a good and than build it up than execute in way that makes fans happy but bendus doesn't do that he rushes it and will pair up characters that don't need to be in romantic relationship with each other. I think a lot writers at marvel ignore a lot good ideas for couples if they do have one they don't do anything with it and it's left in the air.

[@rodney2x48]

Because Kitty is Bendis' waifu. That's probably all there is to it.

[@YourMarvelFan]

They were good together tho.

[@jok86er]

DeltaPrime350 i like Kitty and Peter Parker together

[@deltaprime3509]

Fallen Star sometime others too but that the writing for isn't going be good every time

[@renzorro2001]

Just picked this up at a con, I can finally break into Marvel comics with an interesting sounding story without too much backstory! Thanks guys, now my friends will only berate me for not reading any of the ultimate universe!!!

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Whoa! Didn't X-pect this! Huh? Huh? *raises eyebrows* ............What's that, Professor?! *charges through nearest wall*

[@jotimaro1729]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache haha

[@Sicod79]

Double Jeopardy! Order in the court! Voir Dire!

[@tremblingcolors]

Beast was gray before he was blue for a while, I liked that look the best of all his looks.

[@trans301]

Hilarious episode! Just letting you know - Jean could move objects with her mind in the original comics - she would move books and stuff. I don't think her psychic abilities came until later.

[@EhNoLove]

Sitting here watching Back Issues; Great episode, and all i can think is that a Bat Woman / Angela crossover would be awesome. Callin' it for the next Marvel / DC crossover.

[@metmexfan]

All i could think about during this episode is Gladiator with the slogan "Make the Shi´ar great again"

[@thb1997]

the All-New Xmen was so good at the beginning and kind of turned into a mess at the end. aka every thing Bendis touches nowadays

[@KennethKralyJr]

Hello Sal and ComicPop , I enjoy and like your Back Issues videos. Could you do a Back Issues on Adventures of Supergirl from DC Comics ? It's a comic series both digital and print based on The CW Supergirl TV Series written by Sterling Gates. That would be a good Back Issues show if you did one on that comic series. Thanks Sal and ComicPop and keep up the great work !!!

[@sammurphy7672]

Lovely font and design for your names.

[@jeangreyfan4148]

Jean Grey Psionic Forme is Iconic😍

[@bgajdek]

Let me get this right, Skrull vaginas & Furries and it's not even the half way... I love this show.

[@kohthefacestealer9289]

I've never seen this episode before. How did I miss it when I've pretty much seen every other episode?

[@desi_no_aka]

"The only good skrulls a dead skrull"

[@darknite653]

I actually recall someone mentioning that Kitty's fixation with Peters is that Peter was the name of her hamster.

[@rorschach221]

I had never heard of Corsair before this story. He seems cool.

[@hexbug9737]

lies his girlfriend is kool though

[@joshuamcchristian5365]

Gobbledygook lol

[@STLVOSS]

LOL Lets not get into Iceman

[@STLVOSS]

ChiefDaly they actually did get into it if you look at the tangents Playlist. the video is called Jean grey is a jerk

[@BIGGREENWIENIE]

Haha! Gamora!? Fuckin' Ben!

[@austinskywalker5703]

Wait, they reference Age of Ultron? I thought that was out of continuity? Or is it in continuity for Bendis books?

[@nintendofan6099]

I actually enjoyed this story when it came out and All new x-men on its own. But I was also mad at beast lol. He was a hypocrite.

[@michaelbrower7141]

If Gladiator had killed young Jean, then Jean would have never become Phoenix and therefor never have repaired the M'Kraan crystal, therein saving the entire universe. A huge con there.

[@deazy6453]

Now Marvel needs the rights to Space Jam lol. I would give that a try 😂😂😂

[@Metaldeth316]

that was fucking genius guys...how Wolvie wants to secretly bone Cyclops lol. Keep up the great work.

[@matthewengebritson9777]

I actually prefer the Starlord/Gamora relationship from the MCU, than them not a couple in the couple in comics. They got pretty good chemistry in those movies.

[@Junior2000625]

This was awesome

[@KaptenSeptum]

doesnt this book continue to the black vortex saga? :) or was it the other way around?

[@FakeItWithMe]

Love you guys.

[@kazen16]

that theory x23 and scott tho... i was lol on my desk...

[@Ike_of_pyke]

I'm a skrull fan.... But yeah no old skrulls were kind of monsters in terms of their plans(skrull-kree war related plans )

[@kylelundy802]

Skrull Lives Matter

[@timcarder2170]

lol so basically what you are saying is, Kitty really loves the Peter ;-)

[@williamgazca963]

thanks for the upload comic pop

[@fubuwaru1691]

I'm not gonna lie, I forgot that this crossover exists lol

[@noreply3717]

Future end please back issues

[@kyrosvlar]

Guardians 3000 is a cool team.

[@ThePandaSupreme]

U should do the button on back issues because u did dc rebirth #1

[@harsh00720]

wasn't there a 3rd summers brother who was born in space ship Vulcan aka Gabriel Summers

[@ggoforce]

the crossover that was the rough draft for cwII

[@Grievousish]

I'm hoping this means we'll get The Black Vortex someday

[@johnjackson2491]

Come on guys ! What about Evil Ernie . Evil Ernie was awesome.

[@pleffman]

Its actually pretty funny if you think about it Beast and Beast boy from dc both have their designs and power sets changed to slightly different furry varients every now and then like beast boys red then hes a big hulk monster oh and in another universe he can turn into different furry people because we need to corner that market