The XTREME Parts Cannon! (GM Chevy S10 P0300...FALSE Misfires?)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

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@eddiereichel9354
@eddiereichel9354 Жыл бұрын
One of hardest things to explain to customers is that new and good have 2 different definitions
@billmalec
@billmalec Жыл бұрын
Same thing with new online eyeglasses and good. 😁
@tedmoss
@tedmoss Жыл бұрын
@@billmalec Same for hearing aids.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss Жыл бұрын
@@thehemiolds455 One works the other doesn't.
@billmalec
@billmalec Жыл бұрын
@@tedmoss huh? 🤣😁😁
@vilefly
@vilefly Жыл бұрын
NEW = Never Ever Worked before (aka inexperienced merchandise)
@dangleebols
@dangleebols Жыл бұрын
When i asked on Jimmys (Master Mechanic) YT channel " Jimmy making it work " who would he trust to work on his own vehicle, your name came up first, quite some recommendation 😁
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 Жыл бұрын
Always amazed at how smart you are and how not smart I am. BUT i always love your vids!!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! 🙏
@cstierhoff
@cstierhoff Жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed with your fixes. Coming behind others to solve an original problem is nerve racking.
@jonmullaly7497
@jonmullaly7497 Жыл бұрын
Fast forward is cheating!
@tedmoss
@tedmoss Жыл бұрын
That's my job, coming behind others that can't fix things, I've been doing it all my life since I was 9 years old, now I'm 80.
@AlAmantea
@AlAmantea Жыл бұрын
I have never used the duty cycle conversion in Picoscope, but you bet your butt I'm gonna now... Thanks, Ivan. You make us all better techs!
@wjdunk
@wjdunk Жыл бұрын
Eric O @SMA did a great video today using his scope to diagnose a fault he has never seen that 2 other shos couldn't fix. You guys are the best.
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 Жыл бұрын
I watch Eric, yet another issue with the timing on GMs 3.6.😢
@danielkennelly6757
@danielkennelly6757 Жыл бұрын
Superb diagnostic job. Excellent explanations. Coincidentally, our buddy Eric O. concurrently had a similar case study. Both of you guys deserve Mechanics of the year awards!
@systemloc
@systemloc Жыл бұрын
That South Main Auto video was amazing! I love watching both these guys do intelligent diagnosis with the scopes and diag computers
@moo3993
@moo3993 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, I think I just learned what happened to a customers car that I could not diagnose. 3 series BMW 325i 2001. This one has haunted me. I would get a cylinder 6 misfire, ecm would disable the injector determining it was catalyst damaging. Did compression checks while cranking and while running to check for valve float or something weird. Checked okay comparable to other non missing cylinders. Swapped coils, no change. Spark plugs were autolites, and i had the customer approve putting in oem Bosch twin electrode plugs. No change. Ordered in a fuel injector as a last resort and numbers matched the injector calibration and had to call it. Couldn't diagnose it. Plugs were wrong, and the only part i fired at it as a last resort was the injector. I didn't own a scope at the time, and didn't know how to use one (until i bought one because of you lol). I did harness checks, i tested and inspected everything i could only firing the parts cannon as a last resort with that injector. Since I didn't see a code for the camshaft or crank position sensors, I assumed they were okay. And the WILDEST PART THAT I KNOW WHY NOW BECAUSE OF YOU! If I cleared the codes while the engine was running, it ran like glass for 8 seconds, perfectly, then would detect that misfire and cut the fuel to that cylinder. This guy had 4 other mechanics look at it, not knowing what the others had done and i dove in. I refused to replace parts that i couldn't prove were bad. The only variable was what I couldn't see on the injector while it was operating. This truck running great even with the code on, just like the bmw did after i cleared the code, i would adjust bet the cmp or cank sensor was a crap box store unit. I always use bosch parts on motronic systems, learned that lesson too many times. Where I was wrong was assuming a part was working properly when though it may not have. Seeing how that ecm picked up on certain cylinders only, just got the bmw did, oh that has to be it!!!! I never charged the customer for the diagnosis and only charged the parts cost for the plugs. I told him if I can't figure it out, I'm not charging you. That car has been the only vehicle i haven't been able to diagnose in my career. I wish my customers car didnt burn down now lol. Another mechanic after me left the + lead from the battery disconnected while pulling the intake manifold (guess the guy thought it had a manifold leak even though I smoked it before him) and the positive cable touched ground and lit up the car. I'll never be able to find out if that car has the same issue as this truck, but I'm so sure of it now!!! Thank you Ivan! I'm going to sleep better tonight 😂
@johnmueller976
@johnmueller976 Жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised that a cheap crankshaft position sensor caused this issue. What I do find surprising is that all of the other Amazon/aftermarket parts that have been thrown at this truck worked properly and didn’t contribute to the problem. As far as the cooling fan pushing air rather than pulling it, nice catch Ivan, some people just shouldn’t be allowed near hand tools.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss Жыл бұрын
Or for that matter anything at all, if you don't know what you are doing, keep yer mitts off.
@stephanparis6887
@stephanparis6887 Жыл бұрын
The good news is the owner helped those annoying Amazon FBA training ad campaigns recoup their $$$. The better news is we don't see those FBA training ads anymore. They've died off replaced by annoying Disney+ ads.
@christopherperdue977
@christopherperdue977 11 ай бұрын
If the fans are wired properly so it's moving air the correct direction through the radiator what does it matter if it is being used in a push or pull setup. Especially if they just added it as supplemental and still have the mechanical fan.
@marvinjacobs2955
@marvinjacobs2955 Ай бұрын
@@christopherperdue977 he explained it in the bonus bonus footage at the very end of the video
@stevestadnik9206
@stevestadnik9206 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant way to confirm. I have used math channel with frequency to flush out bad tone rings on ABS. Never though to use duty cycle, but I will add it to my routine. Thanks and keep up the good work!
@boomer9900
@boomer9900 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan. I always knew the CPK was used to check for misfires, but I never knew it was so sensitive. The waveforms show just how small of a deviation the computer is looking for.
@robmut1357
@robmut1357 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand why some people forge ahead in complete ignorance. If you don’t know what you’re doing, find someone who does. Excellent video! Genius on the duty cycle graph!
@GarnConstructionInc
@GarnConstructionInc Жыл бұрын
Extremely fun to watch as an owner of a 98 Blazer! I've had to clean the crank position sensor connector but the original oem is still doing its job!
@bobsoft
@bobsoft Жыл бұрын
Watch for them getting coated with oil. Those timing covers can leak and cover the crank sensor wiring and cause issues
@donwasse7892
@donwasse7892 Жыл бұрын
Nice find, so used to crankshaft variation relearn and AC Delco distributor cap fixing 99% of the P0300 issues!
@Chris-Fennimore
@Chris-Fennimore Жыл бұрын
Oh boy. and I am sure that loose/cheap mounting bracket made the pulses worse. Wow! I figured out the fan issue as soon as I heard them turn on with the ignition. I am shouting at Ivan to put his hand in front of the grille to determine direction of flow. Hahaha. 👍😎👍
@jtjones4727
@jtjones4727 Жыл бұрын
The bonus footage is great on this one. I wish I knew how to use the Math features better with my scope.
@michaelfraser5723
@michaelfraser5723 Жыл бұрын
get a manual and spend time, he did
@shaneperkins1657
@shaneperkins1657 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelfraser5723 but you also have to understand he is an engineer by trade.
@privateer0561
@privateer0561 Жыл бұрын
The temptation to use less expensive aftermarket parts is great, especially when the price difference is enormous and you have little money. If you must buy OEM parts, the best way to do it is look for the cheapest source online and then see if you can get a local dealer to match the price. I have found many are quite cooperative and you don't have to deal with waiting or returns if there is an issue. Developing a relationship with the local dealer parts guy can be a great time and money saver.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Жыл бұрын
Or better, even (multiple) junkyard parts with return policies.
@teekay_1
@teekay_1 Жыл бұрын
Just to add onto this, typical shops charge a lot of money for this type of diagnosis, and there is a great temptation to use the cheapest part "to see if that was the problem". The owner puts it in (which is a pain because he doesn't have a lift or the right tools). When it doesn't fix it, he doesn't take it out because (a) it's not returnable and (b) since the problem didn't change, the junk part can't be the problem and probably the real reason... (c) It's a pain in the *** to take out and he's still irritated his car doesn't run right.
@wendwllhickey6426
@wendwllhickey6426 8 ай бұрын
Rock auto has a lot of OEM parts but you not going to buy them for 3 for 30
@advancedleveldiagnostics
@advancedleveldiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Wow really cool with the graphing duty cycle. I never thought to try that out! I had a Honda with an after-market sensor that I couldn't find a diff. I'm going to check with a math channel to have some closure! Thanks for sharing!
@davidmelbourne5480
@davidmelbourne5480 Жыл бұрын
The variation in duty cycle is likely the physical distance changing, ie the sensor bouncing in & out. Great fix as usual Ivan.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Sensor was actually in tight by the o-ring. It was purely an electrical glitch.
@davidmelbourne5480
@davidmelbourne5480 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Def counts as weird then.
@paulmoir4452
@paulmoir4452 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Betcha the OP is right: there isn't a plausible electronic explanation for a failure like that. Hit a harmonic with that wuss bracket would certainly explain it though.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 Жыл бұрын
@@paulmoir4452 Or it might be movement internal to the sensor. I agree that electrically this doesn't make sense. But mechanically it does.
@davidmelbourne5480
@davidmelbourne5480 Жыл бұрын
@@russellhltn1396 The effect did seem exasperated by increased rpm. Assuming this sensor is hall effect based, the hysterisis threshold would have to change very quickly to result in only a few pulses being stretched. Not impossible, but odd.
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
That was amazing! Like you said, "The power of the (Pico) scope." I remember those OEM distributors had a small amount you could move them to readjust the cam to crank offset due to timing chain wear. If you removed the distributor you could file the opening of the adjuster slot and that would give you more adjustment. If you zeroed it out and the engine ran poorly or stalled, it was diagnostic time possibly a stretched timing chain. Had several mini vans in the fleet that had these 4.3 V6 engines. They were like pocket rockets! A light van with a strong engine. Remember, these 4.3L V6 engines were "The GM 5.7L V8 with the back 2 cylinders cut off" so we were told. The weak link in the early ones was the "spider" fuel injection system. The updated one worked GREAT! Good one Ivan!
@richb419
@richb419 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, as far as the overheating I remember that all the GM's of that time needed their new coolant installed with a vacuum filler other wise there would be an air block within the engine that causes overheating problems that appeared like a blown head gasket. it appears that the owner tried to mitigate this with the fans. Rich
@mikemurphy7519
@mikemurphy7519 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much all cars should be filled these days with a vacuum tool. It is faster, it locates leaks and it eliminates air pocket issues.
@teekay_1
@teekay_1 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemurphy7519 I agree with that I finally did that with my wife's SUV, and it was trivial to fill up the coolant without any air bubbles
@for2utube
@for2utube Жыл бұрын
@richb419. Good point. He did say he heard air bubbles.
@richb419
@richb419 Жыл бұрын
Hi I derived this from a hard lesson, about 20 years ago I had a man working for me that had a problem with his car (I think it was a Pontiac v6) that was ejecting its coolant after he changed the antifreeze. I had worked on many cars in the past at that time and I was convinced it was a blown head gasket, well I was incorrect the man sold his car at a loss thinking I was right. Rich
@tedmoss
@tedmoss Жыл бұрын
@@richb419 Don't feel to bad about that. I once traded a 1962 Auto-Union (DKW) for a 1959 English Ford because the guy didn't know how to grease the front drive CV joints. Simply put on two zerk fittings and pump a lot of grease in. (I didn't know what the problem was when I got the car).
@alanscrivner1881
@alanscrivner1881 Жыл бұрын
Bernie level diagnosis and explanation. Nice.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. Жыл бұрын
"Diagnostics isn't cheap, but it's guaranteed." Thanks Ivan!
@richardhemingway6084
@richardhemingway6084 Жыл бұрын
Wow! fantastic diagnosis and the reasons for the fault. I would never had suspected, that a shift in duty cycle would have mattered that much, but it did. Brilliant.
@515scubasteve
@515scubasteve Жыл бұрын
Nice video. This one is worthy of the Staten Island Express. Great to learn about the duty cycle with the scope. Thanks so much Ivan! I was wondering about the fans. So was happy to see the bonus bonus footage!!!
@peterhodgkins6985
@peterhodgkins6985 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always Ivan!! That crank sensor problem is real subtle! Great catch on the fan motors too.
@RandyInouye
@RandyInouye Жыл бұрын
Im a cave man. If it runs good not over heating and not making scary noises I just drive. I’ve got AAA. When someone notices a light on in the dashboard I say well it’s running good not overheating not making scary noises and not on fire. So let’s go.
@The_Redkween
@The_Redkween Жыл бұрын
I bet that was one happy customer. Got his truck all fixed, including over-heating, for the cost of a sensor and a diag fee. Can’t beat it!
@smh988
@smh988 Жыл бұрын
This diagnostic encompassed a wide range of knowledge and expertise. This one reminds me of a similar situation, a looong time ago, where a mag sensor was *glued onto the magnesium housing of a gas turbine. Naturally, it vibrated loose, ever so slightly and just enough to cause random 'no light-offs'. It drove us nuts and nearly sent us into parts cannon mode. Enjoyed watching you nail this one. Miller time :-]
@richard3141592638
@richard3141592638 Жыл бұрын
Opposing fans - good Band Name for mechanics.... great ep and great scope analysis. Thanks Ivan.
@shawningler
@shawningler Жыл бұрын
Nice Job! I've had a few oem 4.3 crank sensors hitting the reluctor which really pisses off the PCM! Gm actually had shims available back in the day. I always try the re-learn 1st on miss fires I can't feel ESPECIALLY on 6.0 C/K
@systemloc
@systemloc Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the glitches were a problem with the part or a loose mount.
@rhkips
@rhkips Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, that variation in the cheap crank sensor was so tiny!! That's insane! Learned so much from one tiny glitch. :D
@russellberreth6513
@russellberreth6513 Жыл бұрын
I've been troubleshooting for 45 years you make my head hurt in a good way, absolutely ausum videos, Canada may be centering some content without being registered with CRTC hope to see you in the future, keep up the great work thank you !!!!
@Bikerman42
@Bikerman42 Жыл бұрын
I would have suspected something looking at the frequency on the bad one compared to known good. Great video and use of the scope.
@raymondreiff8170
@raymondreiff8170 Жыл бұрын
And why I refuse to use Junk from ebay and Amazon, especially any sensor and FAKE Denso parts, Absolutely rock solid work, Looks like I need a Scope and learn how to use it like this if I want to be successfull repairing any Modern machinery in the Future. Thanks for Great Content like this.
@haywire17
@haywire17 Жыл бұрын
I believe there was nothing wrong (electrically) with the junk sensor. You said yourself the hold-down bracket was loose and inferior. Abrupt changes in duty cycle are from vibration / physical movement side-to side, while the engine is running. Maybe JB Weld on the hold down bracket or something else to stiffen it would have obtained a stable waveform. Since there were no electrical dropouts, "this is what my gut tells me"...
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Off the car bracket was loose, but on the car sensor didn't wobble 👍
@forrestprice7939
@forrestprice7939 Жыл бұрын
Great info I think a lot of us learned on that one. Thanks Ivan for always inviting us in your shop. PS set the parking brake before turning ignition on for headlights to stay off on a GM vehicle
@for2utube
@for2utube Жыл бұрын
Awesome ‘scope explanation. Fans hooked up backwards - submit to Just Rolled In.
@SteveSRT
@SteveSRT 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the scope info with us. I have learned a lot from you and scanner Danner because you guys take the time to explain things and why you do them. I’m pretty surprised at how little guys seem to use a scope in my industry. Seems like even the manufacturers in heavy diesel just tell guys to throw parts at things
@Joopa
@Joopa Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Bonus material shows brilliantly, that you not only need to know how to use your scope, but also to understand how to analyze data. Being in the data analytics business, I absolutely love the way of finding insights using the scope and proper analytics.
@matthewmcmaster2731
@matthewmcmaster2731 Жыл бұрын
So nice to have an ace mechanic that lives so close to me if I eve need him. Please don't ever move. 😊
@ThunderbirdRocket
@ThunderbirdRocket Жыл бұрын
Gold ! Pure Gold diagnostic and Pure Gold coaching !! Thank you mate !!!
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 Жыл бұрын
It's surprising how a 0.5 millisecond change in duty cycle can affect misfire counts. The moral of the story is don't buy cheap parts for critical engine monitoring functions. Thanks, Ivan.
@MTLeopold
@MTLeopold Жыл бұрын
I knew 5 min in this was going to be a good one. Thanks for the scope lesson Ivan. Cheers.
@dhestondh
@dhestondh Жыл бұрын
When I first started working on cars I learned a lot from an older gentleman that told me test don't guess don't just throw parts at it cuz half of the time it's a waste
@bordercollieinachallenger3933
@bordercollieinachallenger3933 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Ivan, great comparison with the scope signals. Thanks for showing all your viewers the difference between the cheap Chinese knock offs verses the OEM equipment replacements.
@samg5543
@samg5543 Жыл бұрын
That's a factory lowered truck. I had the GMC version and loved it. Suspension RPO code is ZQ8.
@johnclarke6542
@johnclarke6542 Жыл бұрын
Cheap parts keep you busy, you shouldn't knock them, but you have convinced me which parts to buy, love the bonus clips
@thogevoll
@thogevoll 9 ай бұрын
Was it really an electrical glitch or a mechanical glitch. When you showed us the sensor was loose and wobbly my mind immediately went to the false misfires being due to the sensor wobbling around. The ECU is constantly timing the rotational speed of the engine by examining those pulses at a microscopic level. The duty cycle function on the scope really proved it out though. Great work Ivan. I really like how you break things down and provide an explanation.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists Жыл бұрын
I remember my 1995 Jeep Cherokee would have an intermittent loss of spark and a no crank that would occasionally leave me stranded on the side of the road. I didn't have any fancy diagnostic equipment. I had replaced the distributor pickup sensor below the distributor cap (I believe this was a CAM sensor?) as well as the crank sensor on the bell housing both with Duralast components from AutoZone. I'm not sure which sensor was ultimately to blame but I ended up getting two "used" OEM sensors from the junkyard for free and the problem never returned. From then on I learned to avoid aftermarket parts if possible especially for critical sensors like that, which correlates to the issues here with this S10 as well. By the way if memory serves correct I believe the issue was the CAM sensor below the distributor cap, I can't remember how I reached that conclusion as I sold the Jeep 12 years ago, but that's what I remember. If I had a scope I could have tested it. Also being OBD1 my onboard diagnostics tests were just about non-existent as well.
@tlo35
@tlo35 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic fixes. You have more knowledge of fixing cars than most elder mechanics. Good job. 👍
@ericwalpole4601
@ericwalpole4601 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Diagnostics is hard enough, then you add DIY with cheap parts and it takes it to a different level.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
You have said many times, Oem original parts are the best. That amazon junk did not have a good enough O ring (that would of helped stability), the bracket was shit!. So the sensor was vibrating with the engine vibration. (unwanted modulation) Ill never be a car repairer but Oem parts are a must for critical timing reliability. I wonder which part started the shot gun lol.
@pantherplatform
@pantherplatform Жыл бұрын
I tried swapping a few parts in my 96 F150 Straight Six when it suddenly wouldn't start but had to resort to the diagnostic procedure and discovered the pick up coil in the distributor was bad. Replaced it, reinstalled all the original parts and it's been running perfectly for thousands of miles now. Gotta card one distributor in the glove box in case it happens on a trip. Not easy replacing that pick up coil/hall effect sensor.
@markB40
@markB40 Жыл бұрын
Great job….don’t forget seatbelts
@2nickles647
@2nickles647 Жыл бұрын
I finally got my pico scope a week ago. Now that im learning from you. You can teach this ole dog new tricks. 😊
@JattaVictor
@JattaVictor 5 ай бұрын
You are right the cheap parts can cause lot of problem in the vehicle
@TheGarnerjustin73
@TheGarnerjustin73 Жыл бұрын
Those S10's were the pinnacle of high school coolness. Especially if you had it dropped on wheels.
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff with the use of the scope Ivan. Those S10 extremes usually came a 4 banger. It's rare to see one with the big V6. I've run into this issue before (false misfires) with blazers that have the same engine. And it's almost always the same thing. Someone had replaced the CKP sensor with some dime store junk replacement part.
@bobsoft
@bobsoft Жыл бұрын
Distributor cap is another common misfire issue on those engine
@fieldsofomagh
@fieldsofomagh Жыл бұрын
Oem for sensors only. Don't mess with design criteria at your peril. Knowledge is great but without application is useless.Nice fix on a tricky one.
@enesfazlic6017
@enesfazlic6017 Жыл бұрын
Great work as usual Ivan. What the hell on the cooling fans blowing foreward.🤦‍♂️
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 Жыл бұрын
To reduce stopping distance..
@dikoman516
@dikoman516 Жыл бұрын
Same people don't understand that polarity matters.
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 Жыл бұрын
@@dikoman516 bipolar
@robertprelewitz4511
@robertprelewitz4511 Жыл бұрын
Works great in reverse!!
@vg3430
@vg3430 Жыл бұрын
Love the scope capability, but Pico brand is just not affordable for many of us DIY folks. Anyone have suggestions for a more affordable scope option…even a two channel one?
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic and repair, Ivan! Great catch on the duty cycle glitches! Can't do it without a scope and the knowledge to use it, along with the right mindset to get it. That fan spinning backwards was crazy :-) PS: Once we are talking about faults that do require a scope to detect, Eric O. from SMA posted a weird case earlier today - worth watching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJqvfX2JpdqKna8
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 Жыл бұрын
Yes,the cheap crankshaft position sensor was bouncing around due to vibration & causing that 0.5 millisecond time difference in that waveform. The owner unleashed the parts Cannon because he didn't have a scan tool which could read the old class 2 SAE J1850.VPW (GM) protocol PCM which I also have to read fault codes in my 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 powered Holden VY SS Commodore. I have had experience with cheap junk sensors in that engine which is why I can't go past the Wells brand of knock sensor which I bought 2:of for $150 AUD per pair in 2019 although I paid only $20 AUD for a new Knock sensor wiring harness which I ordered from a. eBay seller who was located in Hong Kong. I replaced both O2 sensors for about $100 AUD per pair of Bosch sensors in 2012 & I have had no problems with them since then. I was having trouble with the cheap O2 sensors in that car!
@bengardezy2169
@bengardezy2169 Жыл бұрын
I remember working at nissan and having to get a code out of the BCM and input that code into assist(nissans service manual) and generate a code to put into Consult 2 lol. Was nice when 5523 worked for every car
@dougkubash8673
@dougkubash8673 Жыл бұрын
Good video! Thanks for comparing the crank sensors. I am in complete agreement with you on cheap parts. I would worry about the amazon distributor with future problems!
@patriel1
@patriel1 Жыл бұрын
Another great diag! The cooling fans fix was hysterical. That was one for that Just Rolled In site.
@jefferywarburton2116
@jefferywarburton2116 9 ай бұрын
A cheap or worn coil can cause lots of trouble also. The lack of insulation on the coil and winding's allows moisture to interrupt the spark path and not let it go farther than the coil.
@ALEX-xd7ko
@ALEX-xd7ko Жыл бұрын
Ivan ... the best thing ive learned from you over the years is to use o.e.m sensors / electrical. I always make every effort now to do so and the shops i diag for hate it . Cause i refuse to diag until they agree to use o.e.m ....
@dcomputers
@dcomputers Жыл бұрын
They only care about profit. Spend less is their plan.
@kevin9c1
@kevin9c1 Жыл бұрын
10 minutes in here are my thoughts. First I thought head gasket but hopefully not. Then I thought the crank relearn would solve it. Symptoms changed but I bet it is scope time. Sensor placement (or a crappy sensor) or maybe crud on a reluctor wheel? I would also install the stock distributor and ensure it is timed correctly. I think the "cam position sensor" is part of the distributor because this is an OHV engine.
@pantherplatform
@pantherplatform Жыл бұрын
You help me stay interested in the sport of auto diagnostics.
@hightttech
@hightttech Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍. This is one reason why i like an exhaust gas analyzer. Although it won't identify a bad CKP, it WILL quickly reveal that misfire counts are bogus.
@notsureigaf
@notsureigaf Жыл бұрын
By about 6 minutes in I was thinking crappy aftermarket CKP based on the parts cannon situation and seeing similar phantom misfires in 4.0 Jeeps with crappy CKPs - was not disappointed 😎
@cclngthr
@cclngthr Жыл бұрын
On Anthony's 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk with the rebuilt 289 engine, the stock fuel pump which is crank driven was causing a lean condition which when the car was driven it basically was starved of fuel. Cold it ran fine. Alton Diamond and Anthony did a several day diagnostic on it and found that the high performance engine in the car requires more fuel than what the OEM pump can deliver. Most parts are aftermarket for those cars now but there is a OEM parts supply on the Internet. The way Alton found was use his nose to find the problem. He knows what proper fuel mixture smells like and it was off. The numbers on his gas analyser confirmed the lean condition. Electric fuel pump resolved the issue.
@topher8634
@topher8634 Жыл бұрын
I had a guy bring me a Honda Passport with an added on aftermarket fan. He was having problems with overheating too. Turned out the fan was wired as a puller instead of pusher. It was pulling heat from the engine across the radiator. He didn't want to foot the expense of repairing the factory fans. Both needed motors and were only available at the time from Honda as a complete assembly. Over 600 bucks for both. It was too late to remove aftermarket fan and fix the OE fans because repeated overheating had blew a head gasket.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Classic lol
@jerryking2418
@jerryking2418 Жыл бұрын
Interesting diag. Great fix for fan motor installed backwards.
@flatdaddio
@flatdaddio Жыл бұрын
Great video Ivan. If I change a sensor I use OEM. You and Eric say don't use aftermarket and have the case studies to prove it. I do take your sage advice.
@paultaylor9939
@paultaylor9939 Жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis Ivan many thanks for sharing this cheers
@kennethnichols7263
@kennethnichols7263 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the duty cycle analysis.
@ktcarroll4723
@ktcarroll4723 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these motors that kicked my butt. It had miss fires on 2-4-6 banks well after days of testing and parts the cat was clogged on that bank there is a separate cat on each bank plus the rear cat. Cut it out replaced with straight pipe and runs great
@scottymoondogjakubin4766
@scottymoondogjakubin4766 Жыл бұрын
Ive spent hundreds of $s on junk parts on my s10 4.3 ! I put all the oem parts back on and it runs just fine !
@major__kong
@major__kong Жыл бұрын
I work on the military side of aerospace in R&D. One of the topics that comes up in many areas is, how do we use cheap or cheaper sensors? I think one of the possible solutions to the Amazon crappy part problem is for the OEMs to have more resilient signal processing. Sometimes this means using an additional signal from a different kind of sensor and/or smart filtering. For example, you could compare the crank signal to the knock sensor to the rpm. If the engine is actually misfiring, maybe the knock sensor can pick that up. And if the crack sensor says the engine is slowing down, what does the tach say?
@jgeorges3061
@jgeorges3061 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, AWESOME as always ur approach always amaze me thanks for sharing.
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2001 ZR2 I sold with 252,000 miles. That 4.3 gave me zero issues! Just 2 fuel pumps...
@oldbiker9739
@oldbiker9739 Жыл бұрын
those 4.3 last a long time ,when I worked for hwy Maintenace in Slave Lake Alberta Canada ,the 4.3 were still running with 640 km ,just the usual repairs the dizzy and trans missions and fuel pumps ,and the air pumps for clean oxygen would go bad .
@bobsoft
@bobsoft Жыл бұрын
Simple engine. Just look at the timing chain setup.
@greghanlon2235
@greghanlon2235 Жыл бұрын
Nice find Ivan. Was loose CKP causing oil leak at front cover too?
@tracydiller9378
@tracydiller9378 Жыл бұрын
Great diag. Ivan as always. I have used Standard parts for years when OE was not available and had no issues, most of the time even there economy line.
@Hybriddiag
@Hybriddiag Жыл бұрын
Very very detailed and deep diagnosis and explanation 👌 👏 loved it new to my knowledge cabinet.and again you remind people no aftermarket junk always oem...its worth a while..cheers ivan 😊
@GreyRockOne
@GreyRockOne Жыл бұрын
Wow, That "use OEM" rule strikes again! Nice work Ivan!
@ashercohen4739
@ashercohen4739 19 күн бұрын
Hi Ivan, today I encountered a similar problem, I did a calibration and the problem was solved, now that you explained I understood the idea, if I may ask, are you an engineer in your training, thank you very much for all the knowledge you share, I wish you a good livelihood
@davidmcclain5180
@davidmcclain5180 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can't get an OEM sensor in a reasonable amount of time. Just like in this instance, the value line Standard Motor Products part was available. I had to use a Duralast knock sensor a couple of days ago as the GM sensor was going to be a week out from the Chevy dealer. The aftermarket sensor that someone else installed 8,000 miles earlier had failed but I was forced to use another aftermarket sensor. It worked and hopefully it will last.
@leonardgucciardo8386
@leonardgucciardo8386 Жыл бұрын
I always hated getting cars in the ninth inning at the shop. The shade tree mechanics can really make it hard on themselves when they just keep changing parts not knowing if they are bad. The money they can save by just taking it to a knowledgeable shop can sometimes save them thousands.
@arnoldwilson3719
@arnoldwilson3719 Жыл бұрын
i have done the CKP Learn on 09 Pontiac Torrent using a Launch scan tool butvit never said to go full throttle during the but rather get the rpm up to the stated amount. So i slowly brought up the rpm several times until i went full throttle. Launch did indeed relearn CKP.
@AP9311
@AP9311 Жыл бұрын
I've had misfires on my chevy s10. After i washed the engine, it misfired bad. I dried the engine up a bit, after the heavy rain, it did it again. I had to take the distributor cap off and dry it out. Cmp as well. It hasn't misfired yet, but i already use oem stuff. Some gm stuff like oem, not aftermarket crap. It's funny the way engine runs. Nice video Ivan!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
WD40 the inside of the dist cap!
@AP9311
@AP9311 Жыл бұрын
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thanks, Ivan, for the tip! Will do that. Didn't think of that! All over inside the cap and over and under rotor, too?
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, love the cooling fan fix. The rest of this video pretty good as well. Thanks for Sharing!
@MsFireboy2
@MsFireboy2 Жыл бұрын
Ivan My college instructor preached the Saying Kiss saying Keep it simple stupid. I used this saying Keep it stock Stupid. Thanks for posting.
@CountryBoy4ever
@CountryBoy4ever Жыл бұрын
If you press the dome override button 4 times it will disable the automatic headlights or if you turn the key on with the parking brake on, the headlights will stay off until it's released. I have a 2001 Sonoma and that's how it works on mine.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Except parking brake release was broken on this one haha
@CountryBoy4ever
@CountryBoy4ever Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Well, that's why I mentioned the dome override button. Believe me, I know, the parking brakes on these things were garbage.
@karenkartz3163
@karenkartz3163 Жыл бұрын
That's the problem even in shops you can get misled with bad oem parts also. Call it duty cycle or poor fitting holder causing a frequency distortion from the air gap . Good catch on fans.
@donkaiser6704
@donkaiser6704 Жыл бұрын
Great crank sensor tutorial! Thanks much!
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