The (yarn) cost of knitting projects // How much 3 of my knits cost to make + thoughts

[@ronnadelavergne9217]

This was a great podcast with a compelling and thought provoking topic. You are very eloquent, and interesting to listen to. And your knitting is beautiful! BTW, you DO contribute financially as you provide daycare and (assuming) housekeeping for your family. Add up those costs if you were outside of the home!

[@Lily_curatorial_knits]

Yes! I was thinking this as well! The “cost” of a SAHM in the US was recently valued at over 100k per year. Your contributions are a huge financial benefit for your family and the global economy! 💪 Also your knits are lovely and I appreciate your perspective, very much!

[@stringthingsbymel]

That's very interesting! I do understand that what I do is of great benefit to our family. It's just weird for me to not have my own stream of income after having worked for years.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thank you for watching Ronna! It is a good point to bring up those other costs - it's actually something my husband put into consideration when we first started discussing me becoming a stay-at-home parent. You and (Curatorial Knits) are right, I do contribute financially, just not in the way I used to (directly from a paying job). Thank you for the support!

[@Lisa-vb3gn]

This mindset might help you word things differently. “Allowed” to buy yarn as opposed to “budgeted” to buy. You are a contributing adult in your family. “Our budget allows for this purchase”, or “I am choosing to spend this amount” sounds more like the position you hold in the family than “I’m allowed to.” I hope this makes sense. As a former SAHM and a current disabled person, it is important to not diminish your position as an adult in the family. It’s just my opinion, but whenever I hear an adult saying that their partner is allowing them to do anything, it sounds unhealthy. We decided this will work for us is a word choice that doesn’t diminish either person. I maybe overthinking this, but the distinction feels very real overall. Thanks for everything you shared in the video!🌻

[@margkruzel9104]

As a former SAHM, leaving a professional career, I grappled with the feelings that the word choices imply. In my case it was my own insecurities rather than anything my partner did. But words matter from the onset to reframe and claim a viable equal partnership.

[@monica4705]

Really enjoyed your discussion; found you for the first time. I haven't read all the comments, but as an older woman who stayed home when my kids were young, I want to encourage you in that you may not be getting a physical paycheck, but what you are saving in daycare expense is contributory income. Your time is valuable, as is the time spent with your children priceless and irretrievable. Also, I look at my yarn cost as not only the finished item, but the hours of enjoyment as a hobby. The cost of a 1.5. hour movie is roughly $20. So if I spend 100 hours knitting a garment, the cost of the project goes down as the investment is also ladled into my "hobby." Some people spend hours driving to locations for photography, hiking, hunting, etc. Fuel costs, gear....I have knitting, so my hobby has a cost as well.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching Monica! That's an interesting perspective, I hadn't thought specifically about the hours of enjoyment I like you see it as an investment as it's important, especially long term, to find something you love to do.

[@theholisticinitiative]

I love all the perspective you bring Monica. And I also had never thought of it as cost of enjoyment, which does make complete sense !

[@Beclhawken]

OMG you do contribute to your family income! IF you weren’t there your husband would have to pay someone else to do all that you do. You are priceless and your care holds it all together which never could be given a dollar value. I am sure your husband isn’t a control freak and “allows” you to purchase yarn but please be mindful of your words. Women or “primary carers” should not be minimised in their contribution to the family or the greater community. Great podcast.

[@PerpetualJoy]

Exactly what I was thinking. At minimum the contribution is the cost of childcare, which is very expensive depending where you live

[@genier7829]

I see the money spent on yarn as a hobby, not a clothing expense. The cost compared to skiing, golf, or wine (all hobbies of friends) is small, and if I get useful items as a result it is a bonus. As a family caregiver with very little income I definitely economize most times, in order to splurge on special things occasionally. I endorse the comments made by others about your contribution to the household income. Your work is very significant in monetary terms, even if it does not show up as cash. I know the same thing is true about my work.

[@stringthingsbymel]

I agree with seeing this as a hobby vs. clothing expense. Realistically, knitting alone isn't going to provide me with a wardrobe so useful items are a bonus for me too. This is (so far, wait until I add up everything haha) less expensive than skiing. Skiing at Whistler every year gets expensive but it's something both my husband and I enjoy.

[@venmanjenny]

Very interesting discussion. I often watch a lot of knitting on KZbin and find a reference to extremely expensive yarn which I feel pressured to explore. However....my go-to is Ravelry and I can see what choices people make with their results..this is what usually drives my decision. Having said that, I think this craft and hobby is important to spend whatever you want/can as each item takes time, thought and pleasure!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Jen, I I feel very much the same way! I really appreciate when people list all their project details on Ravelry; it's definitely helped me find new yarn options too. I agree that spending what you can, especially when it contributes to enjoyment (and wearing the garment more) is important.

[@MakingLifeCount]

Fascinating podcast. I really like it when designers list several suggested yarns and tag them as “budget”, “midrange”, and “higher end” (or whatever terms they use). There are so many yarns out there and this saves me the work in figuring out which I can afford.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching! I totally agree and appreciate when designers create a list of yarns. Jessie Maed is really good at providing this with her designs.

[@TheHammy1987]

I love when the cost of the materials is given in videos like this, or in a podcast episode with all the other specs of the project. I'm not probe to comparing myself, my budget, or my knitting to others, but still find it interesting to see the different cost of yarn in different parts of the world :)

[@stringthingsbymel]

My thoughts too! I find prices very interesting and always wonder why more people don't share. I'm the same and don't make comparisons. I'm also not sitting here adding up what other people have spent on projects; no judgments. It's just straight up interesting to hear costs.

[@sherryedwards9571]

First off, kudos to you for staying home with your child! Thats a great contribution to the family. Secondly, price of yarn is an awesome topic. Many people don’t realize what it cost to hand make beautiful items for yourself and believe it should be nothing for you to whip something up for them. I have been asked to make something for someone, but as soon as they realize the cost, they rethink it.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thank you! I think some people assume knitting your own sweaters means it's cheaper and easy to do. When really it's usually the opposite and a reason to knit is about quality. They don't know what their missing out on!

[@HaydenHaystackArts]

Wonderful video! And remember this, hubby might be the only one bringing in the dough, but the both of you have earned it.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@lisanakao1043]

Thanks for sharing. It’s nice to know others are considering cost but not depriving themselves. Knitting is a hobby, mental relaxer and community building. I buy what I want while always looking for a sale.

[@ByrdieCouture]

Just came across your channel. I think cost is a good discussion and there are many things to consider. In my younger years, I would buy yarn or fabric for as low as I could get it. As I age, become more fruitful in my career, have more funds, I like to buy quality which sometimes means spending more. I like to consider the longevity and cost per wear if an item. I may go for the $30 per hank of yarn if it means I’m going to have a sweater I love that I wear often and will last the test of time. My recommendation is to buy the best that you can afford without being irresponsible with your finances.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Jenny, that's great advice and something I consider more and more. Quality and longevity are two very important things especially given the amount of time put in. Thanks for watching!

[@margkruzel9104]

Yes. I’d love to hear about the cost of yarns. Gives me ideas on places to look and also purposeful expenditure. As you indicated, if I can paraphrase, not all projects are the same and worth the same expense, it’s an individual choice but it is very refreshing to look at it this way and take ownership of once’s wallet and choices. Thank you. Really enjoyed your perspective and honesty.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hello Marg! Thanks so much for watching. You've hit the nail on the head! Thank you for understanding what I was trying to convey.

[@sandyvanburen]

I loved this podcast! Thank you so much. And I loved hearing from another SAHM who's basically spending her husbands $$. My husband is super supportive but I do consider cost of yarn more now that I'm not working. I would totally enjoy another video about $$. A full year roundup of $$ spend sounds fun. I'm Dutch so not at all uncomfortable talking about money. This was great!!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Sandy, thanks for watching! I'm so happy to hear another SAHM found my channel. Cost is an important consideration and I had come to point where I just needed to start sharing/discussing it. I'm actually looking forward to finding out what the total at the end of the year is vs. How much of that I actually knit.

[@sharks2571]

It's great to economise, but you aren't spending your husband's money, you are spending from the family money! You financially contribute to the household by reducing paid domestic/caretaking labour, it is still your money and you shouldn't feel bad about spending it. If both spouses have agreed to one spouse staying at home and the other spouse earning a paycheck, that money is not the 'husbands money' and you deserve to have the joy of spending your disposable income guilt free (as should your spouse)

[@anna40400]

I love it when KZbin knitters talk about their project costs! Please, do that more often, if you are comfortable with that. I carefully consider yarn expenses above 35-40 gbp per project. If it’s below that, I don’t really think much and just buy the yarn I want. Granted, I am petite, prefer cropped jumpers and rarely choose to work with hand-dyed yarn. I like cashmere, though… And I knit a lot. I don’t use expensive yarn all that often, because I consider it too precious. So, most of it is just laying there in my stash waiting for perfect projects.

[@susanpettymoneyhon3443]

Try adding the hours it takes you knit a project at a minimal hourly, say $20/hour. The you’ve got a true cost of a hand knit sweater. A work of art!

[@daqtaghhasfibers]

This is such a good idea. I will do this too from now. So curious about how much I actually make stuff for. Thank you for a very good video. Happy that youtube suggested your channel to me.

[@hanna0528]

Love to hear project cost every episode! Why not?! It's an important aspect of it. People always ask how much cost to make this, that? Lol It's not cheap to have hobbies, especially here in Canada 😵‍💫 I do knit, crochet, sew. All these patterns, yarn, fabric, they add up quickly. I also hit my hubby wallet. Hahaha

[@stringthingsbymel]

Yes! All the crafts do add up, but I love them all too. Thanks so much for watching!

[@valeriesuttonpayne7413]

@@stringthingsbymel I think all hobbies can be expensive. But having a hobby you enjoy is important and purposeful.

[@lori6404]

I've used Drops Lima as well as a few of their other yarns and have always been impressed at the quality for the price. I currently have some of their mohair or suri alpaca (can't remember which) and cannot wait to try it. Wool Warehouse has drops on sale throughout the year and even with shipping is always a great deal and the shipping is super fast. Unfortunately, I don't have any yarn stores really close so I tend to buy while traveling, at yarn festivals or online. Sweater quantity can quickly get out of hand and I think we, as makers, sometimes feel pressured to buy the "hot" yarns and when looking at $32/skein USD times 4-8 skeins, it's a lot ot think about for sure. So glad I found your channel and find this discussion very interesting. Happy to know I'm not the only one who has these discussions with myelf. :)

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Lori, thanks for watching! I'm happy to have found Drops as well. Some people don't give it great reviews but I think the quality and price are just right. I often shop online as well as I find it hard to find many mid-range options in store. Before releasing this video I wasn't sure what people were going to think. I'm happy to hear I'm not alone with these thoughts.

[@crochetwithnonnarosanna]

What a great idea, I’ve never thought to price my projects. I think it’s a great idea, that I will definitely start recording in my book.

[@fri5481]

This was very interesthing. Allso the diffrens between projects and the thinking off i want to spend around this for this type of project. Thank you for sharing.😊

[@shanelknight8730]

love this video! I'm also in Canada so I understand the struggle of constantly needing to make yarn subs to suit a project. I love shopping for yarn, it's definitelty a hobby at this point and I never feel any regrets about how much I spend unless it was the wrong yarn choice :)

[@isithometimeyet6553]

This is an important discussion to have and I am surprised more people don't talk about it in the knitting community. I just assumed all the podcasters are fabulously wealthy to use hand dyed yarn all the time lol. I think there is an element of yarn snobbery at play. I see nothing wrong with buying budget yarns acrylic to the high priced ones personally. Each to their own I say and it is a creative pursuit so it isn't always about buying the best and most expensive. Even if you are buying store bought yarn that can be pricey anyway eg Rowan yarn and you are paying just a bit more for hand dyed yarn to make a garment.

[@rixatrix]

Acrylic has come a long way, too. I started my first crochet blanket project and wound up getting the recommended yarn that’s 80/20 acrylic/wool. It’s super soft and machine washable, which is great because my cat has been having some tummy/puking issues over the last year. Wool would be the wrong choice. Cotton would be way too heavy. Acrylic is just right and much softer than what our grandmas used to use n

[@stringthingsbymel]

"Fabulously wealthy" hahaha I noticed many don't talk about cost so that's why I wanted to start. I still use acrylic yarn and yes, it's more than acceptable to use over wool. I have a ton in my stash from my crochet days and prefer it for toys and gifts for children. You're right, this is a creative pursuit! Yes, we need the money to buy the yarn, but enjoyment should be prioritized.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Lion Brand Wool-Ease is my favourite acrylic wool blend yarn! One of my most worn sweaters is made out of it. The machine washable part was very handy when my daughter was younger and more messy - I could wear a hand knit with no worries!

[@CassieDA17]

I try to look at the cost of knitting (yarn, pattern costs, needle costs, etc) as the cost of entertainment/hobby. The fact that I get a garment or finished item out if it is a bonus! I was at a party last year and a friend started asking me how much it cost to knit, how many hours it took, etc. her husband came over and told her to Stop job costing my knitting! 😂

[@ajborthwick7239]

I found this super interesting and it gives me perspective to view my purchases through. I’d love you to include the cost regularly

[@stringthingsbymel]

I'm glad you enjoyed this one. Thanks for watching!

[@frizfriz]

This is a really great idea. I'm just starting to try to keep track of my projects, but I hadn't thought of keeping track of how much the yarn cost, only what it was, what needle sizes I'd used, and the pattern, modifications and so on. I think it could be really useful.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Yes, adding the cost is something I want to be more consistent on. I don't want it to take any of the "fun" out of knitting but add an interesting dynamic to my projects. I also want to add my "intentions" for the garment when I choose a pattern and see if I still feel that way later on. Thanks for watching!

[@carolhudak3173]

You bring up a important conversation that each maker has to decide on their own what they are comfortable with. Anita really brings up a compelling issue. It's great when you spend the money and the hours needed to make a project that you absolutely love and will wear a long time, but what happens when the project is a fail? I am interested to read what others have to say.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Cost is certainly a personal choice and the possibility of project failure very real! My Chantilly Cardigan keeps coming up as an example in my videos because it's one of those projects that makes me really think (the good and bad). Yes, the yarn is lovely, it turned out great. Does the fact I don't wear it very often make it a fail? Does everything else I like about it outweigh that? I don't know. If it was something I wear every week, would I still have mixed feelings about the cost of this project? Because it cost so much, should I being making a better effort to wear it more? So. Many. Thoughts. Haha

[@dschaffin]

If I don’t like something, I will frog it and start over. I’ve learned to be careful not to stretch the yarn too much and you may have to re-swatch when you reuse it. Yes, I’ve done this to whole finished projects. I don’t have the kind of money to waste on something I’m not going to wear.

[@stringthingsbymel]

@@dschaffin This is something I have done too! I love that yarn can be reused.

[@earlgreyknits1178]

I'm the same way with my knitting. It's not that I don't care how much a knitted item costs me but I'm very much a build my stash up, then knit from it kind of person. I like to buy a lot of my yarn when it's either on sale or buy a sizable amount all at once to save on shipping costs. I also buy yarn hanks as souvenirs when my family and I travel which is always a lot of fun. But I only stock up my yarn stash maybe once or twice a year and then simply shop my stash from project to project. This systems really works for me. I think I would hesitate more if I thought about how much each sweater or knitted item costs to make, either by choosing a different less expensive yarn or by buying less of it and playing yarn chicken. I've found that this really takes away from my love of knitting and hinders my creative process.

[@metasymphony]

I only pay attention to project costs if it’s a comparatively expensive one. I like your idea to compare the more affordable ones as well because some of them end up being my most worn and I’m less precious about wearing them. This is a very insightful video, I’m really glad I came across it while binge watching your podcasts!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching!

[@valeriesuttonpayne7413]

I don’t knit many projects that take a lot of yarn. That means not very many garments, but I do keep costs down. I’m now retired with not a lot of extra money. I also quilt so it all adds up. Of course hobbies that you bring you joy are important. So you have many factors to consider when purchasing. Thank you for a thought provoking video.

[@lornastewart4224]

I find it really interesting as often on podcasts people are using very expensive yarns but there are also several who, while they dont mention the cost will recommend yarn within differnt budgets. Im from the UK and have just bought drops merino on sale for an andrea mowray project?

[@misslaurahueto]

Hi Mel ♥️ I just wanted to echo the thoughts of some of the other commenters by saying that as a stay at home mum you are contributing a lot of ‘unpaid’ labour to the household which would cost a lot of money if outsourced (think of all the hours of childcare, cleaning, cooking, planning, organising, etc. and how much they would cost if you paid separate professionals to carry them all out!) so I think it’s only fair that a portion of the household budget is allocated to your hobby/personal enjoyment, just as your husband would do as well! :) I hope I haven’t overstepped by saying this, I just really wanted you to feel as valued as you definitely deserve to be. I really enjoyed this episode and listening to your thought process when selecting yarn/looking at the budget for each project, so excited to subscribe for more!

[@misslaurahueto]

Just realised other commenters framed this conversation so amazingly well - learning so much myself, especially around word choices! So interesting!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Laura, thank you for the support! I am am enjoying the feedback/comments from everyone. Word choice is definitely one of the stand out comments and something I appreciate.

[@ChaoticKnitress]

Loved the video! Thank you for talking on that topic 😊

[@alisakimi1]

First-time watcher. Algorithm got it right, Canada and knitting. I appreciate your input on the cost of your projects. One thing I also notice that's never mentioned in knitting video's or pattern's is time spent. I realize that it will depend on everyone's knitting speed but a general idea would be helpful, if knitting gauge can be determined, why not knitting speed per 4x4 knitted swatch, for example.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Time spent is something I get asked a lot too (from non-knitting family & friends). I wish I was better at keeping track but every time I sit down to knit I completely forget to turn on a timer haha. I think I'll set a goal for one of my future projects to keep track.

[@allisonfritz8130]

Love this video. I would really enjoy the annual sum at the end of the year. Thanks for making some fun content😊

[@maryglancy17]

Thank you for the frank discussion of materials costs. I feel it’s an important consideration for most makers and one I’ve included in some of my private project notes, and will now regularly include in them all and add up the totals. I have also been keeping track of time investment more often using my stopwatch function on my clock app and making note of how long it takes me to knit each section of a project and add it up, which is particularly helpful for planning out in advance gift projects schedules for patterns I’ll knit repeatedly. Along with the cost I think it will really give me a true sense of what I’m doing (and who’s really knit worthy). Also I find reviews on how particular hand knits actually worked out in the wardrobe as in which were the ones most worn and how each one held up, did the yarn and pattern work out together?, etc., provide valuable information.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Mary, I'm happy to hear you enjoyed and appreciated this type of discussion. If you haven't seen it yet, I do have a video where I've conducted performance reviews on some knits I made last year. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHrYcnttetqlgac This year I am focusing on building and curating my knit wardrobe and will be releasing content reflecting that. Thanks so much for watching!

[@louiserossiter4310]

As the most important social job there is I would love to see guidelines as to what percentage of the household income the stay at home parent should be entitled to and it should be a lot more than the poor amounts required for maintenance ie 50% so it is clear all that hard work is valued and it explicitly puts parents on an equal footing when making these sorts of decisions. The word 'allowed' shouldn't come into it. It breaks my heart the way stay at home parents are left feeling they should be grateful for anything bestowed. This is not a comment on you or your marriage but on society as a whole. You are doing a great job of course if there are enough resources for you both to enjoy personal interests then you should with no guilt. Sorry for going off on one!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thank you Louise! "Mom guilt" certainly creeps into our minds too much. My husband is very supportive and I feel very fortunate to be in the position I'm in!

[@MadaboutEwePodcast]

I think this is such a great conversation to have. I’ve been doing this recently on my Instagram page making sure to cost my time as well - at a conservative rate. It is eye opening and defs makes me think about what I’m making and will I enjoy it 😂! Whole skein cost is important too! I loved this episode and your honesty.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching! I wish I could add the cost of my time too but then I'd have to remember to keep track haha. Maybe I'll get to that step one day. I commend everyone who is able to keep track and share the labour cost of their projects. It certainly is eye-opening but I think it makes the project even more valuable (to knitters and non-knitters alike). I'm curious, how did you determine a labour rate?

[@MadaboutEwePodcast]

@@stringthingsbymel to be honest, I won’t be able to do it for some projects because I forget to keep count! But recently I made a baby beanie and stuffed toy so it was easier. I just went with a conservative $20 per hour. Defs not my hourly rate at my real job but I do have an Etsy shop where I crank sock tubes on a sock knitting machine, and I charge $25 ($20 for my time and another $5 for materials) - and that’s only because that price seems to be the going rate 🤷🏻‍♀️.

[@lindysmagpiereads]

Thanks for this. I love the luxurious feel of expensive yarns like silk blends or qiviut, but the cost is prohibitive for a large project, so I usually work with yarn from a local mill here in Alberta, Custom Woolen Mills. I don’t always have a finished project in mind when I buy it, but I get natural sheep shades and then dye it myself - by the time it’s at the dye stage I do have a project in mind.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching! I just bought 2 cones from Custom Woolen Mills! First time ordering from them. I got a 2 ply alpaca/Rambouillet/nylon blend. What do you use to dye yarn?

[@lindysmagpiereads]

@@stringthingsbymel I dye with plants from my garden, tree prunings, kitchen waste and traditional natural dyestuffs that I order through Maiwa (cochineal, madder, cutch, logwood, sappanwood etc).

[@lindysmagpiereads]

@@stringthingsbymel I haven’t used Custom Woolen Mills sock blends. My favourites are their soft spun and the 2-ply mulespinner 100% wool. I just made a shawl with their 1-ply fingering weight and that yarn is too energetic - a little too much twist - making it tricky to work with, although I like the springy feel of the knitted fabric. I’ve got their 2-ply 70 alpaca 30 wool blend almost ready for my next sweater… but one of the 5 dyes hasn’t passed my colourfastness tests so the project is stalled until I redo that skein.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Very cool! I can imagine the excitement of gathering everything and making your own colours.

[@PathsToMath]

Yes, it is interesting and necessary to know the cost, it gives very good ideas about what yarn to use and where to get it, thanks for very good chat.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching Cecilia! I especially love discovering new yarn as a result of looking for different options.

[@mngmay]

I enjoy the cost of projects and would be interested in a round up if this is something you're comfortable with. I am also not working at the moment while I take care of my mom, so I'm also relying on savings / my husband's salary to some extent on my budget for hobbies. I'd like to learn more about what you find to be reasonable/affordable options (while also taking into account quality) I'm in Seattle so I'm really close and it's particularly relevant for me :P

[@stringthingsbymel]

I think I will be continuing to share project costs and will certainly brainstorm the best way to present that info. I still consider myself to be a new-ish knitter (less than 5 years) so there's probably a lot of yarn options I haven't even come across but I like the idea of sharing what I think are affordable, quality options. Thanks for watching!

[@charlenedewbre1280]

Quick tips for yarn cost (being in the same boat expense wise) I like watching for clearance sales or end of lot sales (sign up for your favorited stores online - e.g. I first bought Universal Magnolia at 25.00 a skein, but find it at end of lot sales (in similar quantities!) for 50%less or more!

[@alisonanthony1228]

This is the reason I learned to spin! I can spin the yarn to the weight that I want, dye it the colour I want, and make the project for a fraction of the cost. Plus, I get all the fun of spinning and dyeing along with the joy of knitting it up. I'm on a budget for my hobbies and doing everything from scratch not only helps me stay within my budget but also get a finished product that is completely unique. It's a win/win 😊

[@stringthingsbymel]

I absolutely love the idea of spinning and hand dyeing. I wish I could do it but I fear it would take over our apartment haha. Maybe when we have a house I'll take it on. Thanks for watching!

[@sunnyw4148]

Thanks. It seems no one talks about how much it costs to make a sweater. Your wallet is more generous with mine with anything over $100 having to be a very thoughtful purchase. Sales, destashing, and other options help, but I have learned that just because it is on sale or affordable does not mean it is worth buying

[@anitabechtel5180]

I find it interesting. I think i can speak for all of us in that we are bummed or upset at spending an exorbitant amount on yarn and then not liking the sweater.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Yes, it's definitely upsetting when it doesn't work out! My Chantilly ended up looking great but that doesn't mean I want to spend that much on a project again.

[@lindaromar2824]

In a case like that I can usually sense it and frog it before finishing. Then I go pattern hunting.

[@marie-helenefalardeau868]

This was very interesting, thank you😊

[@zoeyngo6347]

just found your video and absolutely loving the vibe and the discussion! I love knitting with wooly yarn but for a long time was struggling to justify paying for garment quantities (I was a broke student). Eventually, I realize how much I had saved by not buying cheaply made clothes that need to be replaced every year. With 5 months of Winter every year, one wooly knit beats several layers of store bought clothes. Also saved a substantial amount from laundry in the long run!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Zoey, thanks for watching! I feel ya! I love having less laundry and wearing fewer layers in the winter. Wool is amazing!

[@sheilacasper2030]

I think you also have to think about the enjoyment you received when you knitted it. That is worth a lot too. Your knitting is beautiful.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Yes, enjoyment level is very important! There's always going to be a cost (unless yarn was gifted), so finding a balance between the two is definitely important to me. Thank you for watching!

[@thriftythreader5998]

First time watching your video and I enjoyed it very much. Just a couple suggestions. It would be helpful if you had links to the patterns and yarn source. Like what is the link to Wool Warehouse for these great yarn deals? Also, if you could keep the photo up of your project for more time while you talk about it, that would be great. I found a Wool warehouse in the UK, but for shipping to USA, could be pricey. Your Chantilly sweater is lovely. Cost of yarn for it is not my cup of tea, but to each her own. I like to frog thrifted sweaters for cashmere and alpaca yarns.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi, thanks for watching. I normally add links but completely forgot about them for this video. I'll add them when I have some time this week. The yarn I bought from Wool Warehouse was purchased nearly a year ago so the deal is long gone.

[@celiaanna692]

Also, for me, I like to think I'm not wasting my spare time, that I am being productive and making something useful. Also, something unique and very therapeutic too!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Yes! Knitting has so many benefits to it. Even if a project takes a long time, I also think it's not time wasted. Thanks for watching!

[@maryoconnell35]

Hello from Ireland 🖐 I really enjoyed your podcast, I also find that buying yarn is expensive but I am learing to find a cheaper option than some patterns suggest, I really love your Must have cardigan as I come from the home of the Aran sweater and I love cables.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hello Mary! Thank you! I almost always make yarn substitutions. I find it to be a fun challenge to find different yarn (and not just for the cost).

[@asagne]

I like this video. In the future you could also extend sweater prices to include pattern and buttons (for cardigans) cost too. I know that it is a small amount, but my curious mind was intrigued to know it too and see price distribution proportion :)

[@stringthingsbymel]

That's a great idea! And a good reminder on what else to add to my project notes. Thanks!

[@SS_S.]

It's not insignificant. I have a cardigan where the buttons bought from my local haberdashery chain store cost more than the yarn itself!

[@jojorey6886]

Besides knitting, I quilt and that is very expensive also, especially if you get your fabric from quilt shops.

[@yay5112]

I log my stash in ravelry and you can see enter the amount you paid for the yarn. I like this as a way to keep track for myself

[@lindaromar2824]

My yarn spending in the past has been determined by money available. In the last 2 years, though, I have determined yarn buying by buying with a purpose in mind and not feeling like I *have* to buy just because I am at a festival or a sale. I would love to hear more about your yarn costs and what it does to your purchases in the future.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Linda, I really like that mindset and approach to yarn shopping. I can be so impulsive and it would be good for myself to practice that more often. Thanks for watching!

[@milktea_femme_]

You're so elegant, classy and put together. Makes me want to be a better woman and its hard to come across now a days. Very inspiring all around and also intriguing and easy to listen to. Thank you for this video

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Jasmine, you're too kind! 😊 I'm glad you found this inspiring. Thanks for watching!

[@milktea_femme_]

No problem. Your channel is very under-rated. Keep going and you'll do great things with this!

[@ritaalexander1639]

Project cost is important, and if you're willing to share, I'll be taking notes. I'm a fellow Canadian living in California. It would be interesting at the end of the year to see how many projects you have completed and what the average cost is. Also, there are other considerations, which may or may not make the price (if you can afford it) moot. Does using a more ex pensive yarn make the project. Does the more expensive yarn, improve the longevity of the garment, improve the overall look, make it more pleasing to knit. I could go on, but you get the picture, loved this podcast.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching Rita! I am curious too about what the average project cost will be at the end of the year - and I'll share that info. I agree with your line of thinking for other considerations too. I could go on and on as well so I get it.

[@nancymorgan5505]

It would be interesting to compare the cost of a store bought sweater of equal quality to the cost of a homemade project.

[@annafdd]

It’s not really an easy comparison. Off the shelf knitwear is done on knitting machines and then assembled in pieces, by workers who are in countries with a much lower cost (and standard) of living and probably exploited while doing it to boot. So you would have to consider how much it would cost in terms of the labour of a skilled artisan working at the kind of hourly wage that would allow them to survive in the same city you live in. And the answer is, probably unaffordable for any of us. There is a reason people no longer buy one of a kind items tailor made to measure on their measurements, and even when that was the only way to get garments, people had fewer garments and had to make them last longer.

[@annafdd]

Also, the cost of high-ticket items of the kind my mom is used to buying is staggering. She told me she much admired a coat, but could not justify the €1,000+ price tag. Likewise she was lusting after a nice shawl but it was €300, which would but a hell of a lot of nice yarn!

[@ButtonedUpKnits]

Wonderful video. You are a marvelous knitter. One issue is you are not selling your sweaters. I have started a small business knitting baby sweaters. By and large, I don't knit with acrylic. I try to keep the cost to under $15 USD. I don't count my labor. It's difficult to price out hand-knit sweaters. #buttonedupknits

[@valeriejohnson1043]

I hear you that you are not working outside the home and earning tangible income. However, being home with your child and keeping house and not having her in daycare means you are contributing mightily to your household. Loved your podcast!

[@paperandtwine]

New subbie. I’m so glad you don’t regret buying the yarn for your exquisite chantilly cardigan. I am a bit of a yarn snob and value the time indie spinners and dyers put into creating lovely yarns for us to play with. I would much rather buy the best yarn I can afford to knit something that I spend many hours on. I’m about to start the Karenonsweater when my yarn from niches et bunches arrives, it has cost me £144

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for subscribing! I really value experience and sentimental value. It was surprising to me how much it cost but I loved working with the yarn and what I learned more than worrying about the cost. That project made me feel like I grew as a knitter. I'm envious about your yarn choice! Their yarn is definitely on my list,

[@julieknitsandspins]

Great episode and eye opening! Thank you ❤

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@vzeimen]

I am very conscious of what I spend while I'm deciding on yarn but I don't write it down and keep track anywhere and I almost always wait for sales. I feel like if you really love the process of making the project, you can't really only look at it as the purchase price of the product you end up with. For instance, here in Colorado, if you want to go skiing for one day it's going to cost you over $200 just for the lift ticket. If you have to rent your equipment and buy your lunch that's probably another $150 or so. Not to mention transportation costs to get to the ski area.... So for one day of skiing for one person it could be $300-$500. For me to spend money on yarn that I will work with for a few weeks but end up with a beautiful garment that I will wear for years. Spending $50+ is probably not that bad. Or even if I give it as a gift to someone that will love it for. years, it's probably ok because of the enjoyment of the making the project.

[@stringthingsbymel]

I also compare it to skiing costs. One can expect to spend the same here at Whistler and it could end up being a great or terrible ski day. But that's just it, it's one day.

[@vzeimen]

@@stringthingsbymel Heck even a movie costs more than a lot of yarn and that's just a couple hours of entertainment.

[@manonc1888]

Thanks for sharing. It's a very helpful podcast. (Also, in Canada/Quebec and always trying to set a limit because project cost going up fast these days...)

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching! Do you set a limit on cost per project or number of projects per year? It's something I've been considering.

[@manonc1888]

@String Things by Mel cost per project for now. I am not adding pressure to myself about cost as i always keep in mind that if these projects brings me joy and happiness for weeks or months, then it's all good. (No guilty feelings :)... But I have to admit that i once calculated the amount spent in a year for my hobby, and it was crazy ! No doubt, if nice yarn was less expensive, more people would join this great community!

[@marshawoods2634]

Such an interesting video! I shudder at the cost of an accessory, compared to my clothing "budget." I'm currently holding mohair/silk with a fine Knitting for Olive merino and making a long lacy scarf that will ring in at $110 US. It is lush and beautiful, so I'll take this out of my "entertainment" budget. I have a deep stash and could save A Lot by knitting from it.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks for watching Marsha! Your scarf sounds lovely and I think you deserve a luscious yarn combo, especially for something that will be close to your neck and face. Yes, your scarf cost over $100 but I bet it's something you're going to have for a long time!

[@ashleymarin3928]

Thank you for sharing! Love your videos!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thank you so much for watching Ashley!

[@christineboyce988]

Have you priced hand knit garments? The cost of yarn and the time you spend knitting create beautiful things. If you wear the item often the cost per wearing is the test of cost.

[@stringthingsbymel]

I haven't priced out my garments including labour as it's something I haven't remembered to keep track of. Value of the garment comes from the knitting experience too. If I had fun or learned something, that may be more important than cost.

[@gemsxgabby2534]

I'm glad you talked about the financials of knitting. I started my first sweater in February. For background I am also tall and usually a 2XL for clothing so I need a lot of yarn. I felt so much guilt about the money I was spending that I put the project on an indefinite hold. It's sounds like quality yarn can be pricey but it's worth it. And that spending upwards of $200 is not terribly uncommon.

[@stringthingsbymel]

I'm happy to hear you liked this video. Is that sweater still on hold? I hope it's something you go back to. I understand the guilt part, but once I started to wear my own knits, I found it hard to wear any store bought ones and the guilt I used to have went away. I have found that I'd rather spend the money on yarn and create my own sweaters than buying them and so it's all worth it to me.

[@gemsxgabby2534]

It is on hold because I have some summer sewing projects to work on. I will pick it up again, i think it's something I'll be very happy to wear

[@mirakaucic3130]

I think that your beautiful cardigans are first class in workmanship, material quality and time investment ❤! If you consider that a Row t- shirt in cotton or silk would probably cost at least double of your cardigan then, please design your own label and start selling your awesome pieces 😊🙏. If this doesn't appeal to you consider them heirloom pieces for your children. Just thinking out loud.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks Mira! I hope to hold on to as many pieces as I can for my daughter.

[@kathykujawa6183]

thanks for saying this outloud. as a 5x person-- now calculate all these projects over again!!! yes--- its pretty eyeopening to understand the upfront cost for plus size. whats worse is seeing people make some designs and then not have them fit well in the end.

[@stringthingsbymel]

It's unfair how much more plus size knits cost. It hurts that your size can be a barrier to enjoying such a wonderful craft. I would love to see better representation of plus size figures in knitting and I would also love to learn more about the design process for those figures - because the answer isn't "just make it larger". Thank you for your thoughts!

[@warriorthu]

Also a plus size knitter, and I’m forever envious of smaller people who don’t have to buy as many skeins of expensive yarn. I either have to sub in something cheaper, or just shell out. As if there aren’t enough things in society making me feel bad for being larger, sweater knitting also costs more. (And no, the answer isn’t just to lose weight.)

[@knitgirl.7676]

I spare no expense on yarn. I work hard, can afford it and I like nice things. I make no apology for this. I also look at it this way.. $300 for a month of engaging daily activity and a beautiful wool sweater as a bonus. I don’t always buy super expensive hand dyed yarn. I knit a lot with British wool (J&S, etc) which is extremely affordable and very high quality. I also use a lot of Holst Supersoft in cones. It is very affordable and awesome quality. I don’t buy this because it is cheap, but because it is lovely. Knitting is cheaper than a lot of other hobbies if you count it by the hour.

[@stringthingsbymel]

I absolutely love your confidence in yarn purchases/choices! I bought my first cone of Holst Garn Supersoft cone last year and will definitely purchase more in the future.

[@francesdeane3480]

I wish you had included the shipping cost and taxes in your totals. The Drops from Wool Warehouse would definitely cost more than $2 per ball if you added these in, even on sale. Also, I love Briggs and Little yarn, but it is not stocked by many LYS and I generally have to pay shipping to get access to their full collection (I am near Toronto). Another yarn to consider is from Topsy Farms, Ontario - very reasonably priced and less rustic than B&L.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Frances, I didn't include taxes and shipping as I was trying to keep things simpler (and limit video length) however I understand that those costs can affect one's buying decisions. I also recognize that those costs are especially relevant for my Canadian viewers. Given the amount of interest in all the costs, I'll include taxes and shipping in future videos. All yarn for the Chantilly Cardigan was purchased in person along with other yarn. I purchased a ticket to attend Knit City and drove to the event (which is a short drive for me). Those two costs would be spread across all my purchases that day so the price of the Chantilly Cardigan wouldn't have a significant change. For the Drops yarn, I chose Royal Mail and the shipping cost was $9. That makes the adjusted cost $2.50 per ball or $30 for the Marseilles Sweater. As for B&L, I paid $15 for shipping; adjusted cost is $8.50 per ball or $42.50 for the Must Have Cardigan.

[@alicia_plans]

​@@stringthingsbymel also Customs dues, if you're comfortable. They can be so high in 🇨🇦

[@stringthingsbymel]

@@alicia_plans So far I haven't had to pay any custom dues, but I'll definitely mention them when they come up.

[@fancythatcookies]

I put most my yarn info including $ on ravelry

[@HAD246]

I do keep and always have kept track of all the cost of my yarn, and I tape the bill in my knitting log. I think this is very important part of knowing how I spend my money to me it’s just part of the whole process and being responsible to myself and my hobbies . I also have a budget or limit in my head I stick to when purchasing yarn…..I don’t want my hobby and love for knitting to cost me more than I would actually pay for a garment … so I ask my self before.. purchasing the yarn for a project …. Would I spend $$$xxxxx this much on an item that is ready made from a store ?.. Part of the old fashioned girl in me finds it challenging to find ways to make an item cheaper and less expensive then a suggested yarn ….to me it’s part of my creative process ….. making beautiful things but staying within a budget … I make better, mindful decisions when purchasing items if I set limits for myself and keep track of what I spend . …for me it’s just it’s just financially responsible to keep track of spending ….and keep everything in balance 😊

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Heather, thanks for watching! Sounds like you have a great process in place. I appreciate how you have created a budget and are basing it on a logical question and in turn, you are able to have fun and be creative!

[@trishbecker4202]

Sometimes scary for our hobby. Don’t forget to add in the price of the pattern, postage costs if any and perhaps the ticket costs for festivals. Regardless, it is a great hobby and often with beautiful, unique results.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Good tip on keeping track of tickets. I didn't include shipping in this video to keep things simpler but it is an important factor. Just in Canada shipping can get pricey!

[@andreabush1742]

I do worry about the cost because I am not an advanced knitter. I want budget yarns until I become a better knitter.Thank you for this video. But you should be "allowed" to buy what you want and need. The allowed word was concerning. You are worthy!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Thanks Andrea! I was the same way, I used yarn (mostly acrylic) from my crochet stash until I was ready.

[@ritaalexander1639]

Don't forget, what you do at home has value, in your home, your children, what you would spend for a work wardrobe etc. and don't, you also contribute to your husbands quality of life every day, making it easier for him to earn his paycheck. So you do earn money, mostly in the what you do department and what you save department. It just does not come to you and your family in the form of a paycheck. Sorry, didn't mean to get so wound up about this, but I was you 40 years ago and it took me a long time to get it. However I am lucky my husband is well aware of how I contribute.

[@brynda2150]

The cost of yarn is what controls my creativity. If the price of yarn to make a sweater (example) costs more than I'm willing to pay to buy a sweater at the store then I find a different project. I can't even imagine making dolls or the amigurumi stuff I see all over the internet. 😥 my creativity longs to be free. I dream of luxurious yarn.

[@lindas5964]

Personally I think it’s rude to ask anybody about how much they paid for anything unless they themselves are being asked to pay for the item. My father liked to pull that crap after I moved out and was an independent adult. Just his way of maintaining control by making me feel guilty about everything.

[@annafdd]

I hesitate to say this but I spent a lifetime hearing my mother complain that she had no choice but staying married to my father because she did not have an independent income, and while it dawned on me far too late that my mom did not actually want to leave my dad, I think the financial situation made life more bitter for her (and me) than it needed to be. So I have to say, I am a little creeped out by hearing that you are “allowed” to buy yarn. Presumably the choice to have a child and for you to stay at home to look after them was taken as a couple. You accepted a reduction in direct income because you provided a baby that I assume you both wanted, and the labour that goes with caring for said child. If the idea is that the money your husband earns is his and he graciously gifts it to you, instead of money the family earns for the three of you, to lead the kind of lifestyle one income lets you afford, then that is a very big red flag. Myself, I never remember the cost of yarn either: most of the cost of yarn for me is the incredible amount of space it takes in my small flat. The one time I stepped back from purchasing some yarn is when the pattern (and I have knitted three, no maybe four patterns that called for it) involved Spincycle Yarns. They are beautiful and the cost is probably due to the process of creating them, but… every time I consider it I look at the total and go, heck no.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hello, thanks for your thoughts. When this video was published (over 1 year ago), it was immediately brought to my attention that the word "allowed" was a poor word choice and I completely agreed with those comments. If you have a chance to read the rest of the comments, I believe this should become evident. However, I wanted to reinforce that message and reiterate that it was never my intention to be complaining about my financial situation or implying that my husband controls all the finances (and he is not controlling at all, to be clear) and that I have no spending choices. I also want to make it clear that I know I play a significant role in my family and I am happy to say that I'm in a healthy, supportive relationship where I am free to make my own choices. Thank you for your time and watching my video; I'm glad it got you thinking!

[@fancydeer]

yeah I don't buy bespoke yarn I stick to cheap yarn. $30 per ball of yarn is too steep for me lol I spend maybe $20-30 for all of the yarn it takes to make an oversized cardigan or over sized sweater. Your pieces are gorgeous and the yarn was well worth it though! If I could afford it I would certainly support a local yarn seller.

[@stringthingsbymel]

That's perfect! You have found a way to enjoy your hobby in a way that works for you. The fact that it was made by you will truly make it special. Thanks for watching!

[@sarahthatcher123]

I was disappointed when you said you would not include the cost of shipping and duties. If ordered online, the cost of shipping alone is sometimes equal to and up to 3 x the cost of the actual product. I think it is I,lotta t to include this as a factor…as it is a cost.

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Sarah, Another person was also interested in the other costs. I've copied my response below: Hi Frances, I didn't include taxes and shipping as I was trying to keep things simpler (and limit video length) however I understand that those costs can affect one's buying decisions. I also recognize that those costs are especially relevant for my Canadian viewers. Given the amount of interest in all the costs, I'll include taxes and shipping in future videos. All yarn for the Chantilly Cardigan was purchased in person along with other yarn. I purchased a ticket to attend Knit City and drove to the event (which is a short drive for me). Those two costs would be spread across all my purchases that day so the price of the Chantilly Cardigan wouldn't have a significant change. For the Drops yarn, I chose Royal Mail and the shipping cost was $9. That makes the adjusted cost $2.50 per ball or $30 for the Marseilles Sweater. As for B&L, I paid $15 for shipping; adjusted cost is $8.50 per ball or $42.50 for the Must Have Cardigan.

[@christinemccloskey7429]

I don't really cost how much it is because therapy costs a lot more. In addition, it is so sad that you consider mothering your child is no substantial contribution!! So sad!!

[@stringthingsbymel]

Hi Christine, thanks for watching. There are certainly other things that cost more than yarn, it's about balance and priorities. I think you may have misheard what I said - I do not consider that being a stay-at-home I make no substantial contribution. What I was saying is that I make no FINANCIAL contribution. I certainly make big contributions to our family in all other ways!

[@christinemccloskey7429]

@@stringthingsbymel You should be so proud that you have chosen to mother your own children. THAT is what is wrong with the world today. Too many children were "latch-key" kids coming home to an empty house because their parents thought it better to go out and make more money. Good for you! And thank you for sharing your knits.

[@pinkymoemox]

I love the Video BUT I don't think you are not contibuting to your family! There's more ways of contribution/Work than the classic "paid job model". Motherhood is as challanging, if not more challanging than a lot of jobs and you do it FULLTIME. so NO it's definetly NOT your husband's wallet!

[@warriorthu]

* sees your most expensive sweater * * glances at the project bag holding 11 skeins of Spincycle * 🫣

[@stringthingsbymel]

Ooh Spincycle! I hear so much about it but have yet to try.

[@warriorthu]

@@stringthingsbymel It’s beautiful and hard to dupe (for me, anyway), and I love them as a company! But also, they are quite pricey! I’m willing to splurge on their yarn because it’s my favorite, and I haven’t found anything else I like as much for their colors.

[@annafdd]

One day! One day I will bite the bullet and buy myself the yarn for a Ghost Horses!