THE YOUNGER GENERATION - We Rap More Mellow (12" - 1979)

[@bridgecop]

Umm, I recorded the cowbell and hand claps, my friend Ray recorded the Shakers and hand claps and my other friend Rene played the congas with a bassist who also played guitar riffs. It was all live music recored in October of 1979 at Delta Studios on in Ave in NYC. Grand Master wasn't there, ask Melle Mel if you don't believe me. By the way Terry Lewis who produced the recording disappeared with the profits and we had signed papers with him.

[@atticusfinch700]

Can you tell us more about the recording of this song? How did the song come about? And Terry Lewis - is this the same person from Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis fame?

[@atticusfinch700]

I see that it isn't that Terry Lewis. But still, would be cool hear about this record and your involvement in it.

[@bridgecop]

Langston Collin I was playing drums in St Mary's park on a Sunday and Terry Lewis approached us about doing studio time. We were a little weary of him so we called delta Studio and found that he had booked studio time so we went down and recorded two days. Aside from the furious five there was another rapper named A.J. and Scorpio. They didn't used A.J. and Scorpio because A.J. was making a scene. P.S.: we made papers with Terry Lewis and he took off with the money.

[@bridgecop]

thanks brother

[@chriswallace9008]

Alfonso Serrano Your story is true and has been immortalized in the comic 'Hip Hop Family Tree'. Give it a look if you haven't already. It's a great read to start you out with hip hop.

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

My neighbor turned me on to this and super rapping every scene i been hooked

[@butterflylovenj7300]

I was born in 81, but I like this. I will never understand why Melle Mel is never mentioned when it comes to top emcee's. A child is born with no state of mind. Blind to the ways of mankind is one of the best lines ever.

[@johnniecale]

In Kool Moe Dee’s “There’s a God on the Mic”, Melle Mel is ranked as the number one emcee of all time; a ranking I agree with.

[@seancarey6863]

Kool Kyle? U prob mean Kool Kyle the Starchild, he was the 1st rapper to appear in a movie, its called downtown 81, its an art movie, legend fab 5 freddy and grafitti legend Lee Quinones are in it, You want righteous rythme and I'm a give you some, ha, yo what happened to ✌, ✌⚔✌

[@jamesfrench6149]

IT'S WAS STOLEN FROM THEM

[@garingersportsnetwork]

He was the #1 Emcee in his era, but times changed and more rappers ascended.

[@Shaddyraddy92]

@@garingersportsnetworkAs soon as Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane and Slick Rick came on the scene, lyricism transformed to another level. 85-86 being the turning point.

[@jayare6592]

Salute these founding forefathers of our unique hip hop culture Free Kid Creole RIP Cowboy Big Big Big respect to MR Muscle Simmons one of theee absolute best lyricist in the history of hip hop to date. Rrrrrrraaaaaa!!!!

[@andreygermanov4363]

R.I.P Keith Cowboy!

[@rustenjohnson8050]

My cousin (who is a Hip Hop legend in his own right) Phill Most Chill gave me a copy of this. I took it and played it at house party in Philly and shocked they minds! The Super Rappin versions were hot at that time, so to hear them Furious Five lyrics over that Stephanie Mills instrumental was inconceivable. I had to make sure that D.J. gave me my sh*t back!!!😅

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

😅😅😅good story 😊

[@patmackie3499]

Killer tune...1luv 😎......

[@davidhopson729]

This is Hip Hop History right here!!! Bought this when it came out. I ALWAYS considered this to be the FIRST rap record. Why? It was all rap. Fatback's song was R&B with a little rap sprinkled through out the beat.

[@HolyRollerTV]

this song is a version of oneness of juju 'every way but loose'...that is rnb as well...anyway this isnt the 1st,,, other records came out in 79 tanya winley, 'Rhymin' And Rappin', Funky Four Plus One More 'Rappin And Rocking The House'. Solid C., Bobby D. Kool Drop 'Wack rap'...all out in 79..and theres others as well...

[@marfred88]

Had it was my first rap record got it at the wiz 3rd Ave promo. The use play song on window speakers. Way before Sugar Hill came out. My favorite old school rap. Then spoonie gee rappers delight was just fun lyrics.

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

super rapping straight from the south boogie down Bronx home of true hip hop

[@HulaKinza]

Where the history of R&B, RAP & Hip Hop began ,, Legends boys...

[@Nite-wl6wg]

With Whi

[@Nite-wl6wg]

With Whites With Beats

[@BurnRoddy]

Speeded up to 1.50 sounds so much like my national music. Amazing how African early hip hop sounds.

[@grawakendream8980]

wow great tip

[@Jay-iu4st]

👀

[@atribecalledcat]

9+ minutes of fuckin great oldschool hiphop. I wish I could get this 12" one day!

[@30701000]

go on discogs! reissues (especially Euro ones) are affordable

[@hichemchakour9533]

i'm so happy to have this 12 inch in my collection peace for y'all

[@wuwear912]

Rip cowboy keep your head up kid creole

[@kingslaughter6362]

i got this in my closet. brought it at burke ave sn barnes 1979 or 80 but i got it

[@Scotty-P]

I've FINALLY got to hear this!!!!!!!!

[@1964shyguy]

Vintage recording. The leaders of the greatest youth movement ever. Salute to these Pioneers. I'm Mr. J of the Gifted 4 ( Sounds of the mic & Temper ) 1984 / 85.

[@cido207]

Eu sou aqui do Brasil,amo Grandmaster flash and furious five,Melle mel,alem destes citados passei minha adolescencia ouvindo gifted 4 que gosto muito e e logico tenho seu vinil,e muito obrigado por Sounds of the mic,sou dj hoje gracas aos pilares do hip hop como voces.

[@1964shyguy]

@@cido207, Obrigado por essas palavras gentis. O prazer foi todo nosso! Esses programas, entrevistas de rádio e ouvir nossas vozes na TV e no rádio. Foi incrível! Eu sei que os DJs brasileiros são alguns dos melhores. Eu adoraria que você remixasse uma de minhas gravações. Você deve conhecer Pedrao Dj. kzbin.info?search_query=mr+j+hip+hop+geritol Meu canal no KZbin tem meu e-mail.

[@1964shyguy]

@@cido207, Obrigado por essas palavras gentis. O prazer foi todo nosso! Esses programas, entrevistas de rádio e ouvir nossas vozes na TV e no rádio. Foi incrível! Eu sei que os DJs brasileiros são alguns dos melhores. Eu adoraria que você remixasse uma de minhas gravações. Você deve conhecer Pedrao Dj. kzbin.info?search_query=mr+j+hip+hop+geritol Meu canal no KZbin tem meu e-mail.

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

Super rapping speeded it up on enjoy records

[@benHodah]

Daaaamn...:.. I been lookin for this one for a minute ....... the Furious Five by any other name........NEW YORK CITEEEEEEEE!!!!

[@kingslaughter6362]

1000 i will sell it to you

[@BKaneNp8]

Almost 40 years old! Peace n Blessings to the creators! #HipHopDontStop

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

is listing to this on my day off 12/9/2016

[@plant1234567]

Good for you!

[@rottensosa]

Same 3/24/2021

[@viejohans]

I just found this song in an Album called Studio 54 from year 1980 in Bogota, Colombia, South America.

[@viejohans]

Hans Marinkelle (LA COTORRA LOCA)

[@alianshampoprisioners7056]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpmxiJRpfsyHhJo

[@sabwafare_65]

The furious five emcees will go down as five of the most under-rated in the history of what was then called “rap,” now referred to as hip-hop (courtesy of KEITH Cowboy.) Melly Mel is in my top ten emcees point blank!, (RIP Cowboy.)

[@mellemellor]

Relentless funk!

[@30701000]

I love this record

[@bigscore]

This is a more “raw” version of “Super Rappin” The beat is different but most of the rhymes are the same taken from routines and rhymes they used to spin in the clubs of the NYC 70s when rap was a underground NYC art form. Only real difference between this version and the later version is Rahiem’s verse

[@grawakendream8980]

i think supperrapping is the raw version imo. this has a more smoothed out feel. i love both, mood wise depends which one i prefer to listen.

[@Jay-iu4st]

I like Superrapin more

[@rjvernesto.]

Classic!

[@SamBlitz]

My new ringtone

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

just awesome

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

alfrso your history is great thanks for sharing

[@pb-ly7yv]

I played bass on this record

[@swab813]

I like this version more. The GOATS .. Free Creole

[@rwr773]

i think that was the first rap record I bought

[@datniggaking3762]

Greatest Beat Made Ever Cant stop Stompin my Feet loll

[@Themaddprof]

Much of this was repeated lyrically about a month or so later as "Super Rapping" on Enjoy Records.

[@MagicPlants]

Awesome!

[@kingslaughter6362]

Stay strong Kid Creole

[@drstevie]

So GOOD :)

[@RetroBerner]

Nardwuar sent me. Good stuff.

[@kathy.with.a.k.4.7]

This is so mufafukafukkin ace!

[@kathy.with.a.k.4.7]

Get yaself a Benz or Dato 2 mufafukkinfukka Hundred B ffs

[@mmecm]

FBA all day!!! No question who created hip hop.

[@luizhonorio9917]

SUPER Música 🇧🇷🎹🎭🆗 Show dance funk 🐯🐍🐙🐦🐝🐜🗽

[@corinakiss7935]

Schöne Musik 🎶 🎶 🎶 🎶 🎶 😊

[@patmackie3499]

Quality tune.. 1luv 😎..

[@Westlake72]

I own an original copy of this - because I am f*cking cool :-)

[@maddamage]

Peace & Blessings Alfonso Serrano My Name Is Wayne Will . I Came To Delta Studios With Kool DJ Aj & Busy Bee To Record Long Story Short That Winter in 79 Along With Grand Wizard Theodore Rob, Kev & Crew , Love B Etc . My Question Is What Ever Happened To Track Of The Furious 5 Rapping Over Good Times ! That Recording Went Down The First Day Of Sessions! It Was The Baddest ____ I've Heard ! When Y'all Dropped This Track I Was So Upset I Never Listened To The Whole Track Until Today By Way Of A Good Friend Troy Smith ! Alfonso Y'all Did A Beautiful Job . What Ever Happened To Track 1? Thanks Troy

[@bridgecop]

I don't know Terry lewis probably stole it too with Brasilia (Brass) Records. We recorded the second day. We had nothing to do with the production. They brought a lot of Bronx talent that day. that second day is when they put down "We rap More Mellow" with the musicians (Latin Percussion, Bass, Guitar some keyboards and hand claps. I remember talking with AJ and his partner. i could be wrong but i think he told us his name was scorpio.

[@ceotariqnelson8802]

WOW!!! I Need To Hear That!!!

[@QueenShaZulu]

True hip hop history. Wayne Will is a legend!! Seen him rock out with his crew back in the day.

[@maddamage]

Andrea L. Arroyo u Ya I B.C. I

[@maddamage]

Hi Sis It’s Wayne Will . Thanks For The Shout Out ! Love U

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

just great

[@kingslaughter6362]

Got this in my house. 100 to anybody i only payed 299 back in 79

[@matthewmctighe139]

james pants-"we're through" samples that opening drum part

[@luizhonorio9917]

Anos Dourados da disco 🇧🇷👈🐯🐨🐙🎼🔝☀️🐝

[@erich1308]

I heard this version once back in the day and then it was gone and replaced with Superrappin. I like Rahiem’s verse better on this version “I am so fly for the ladies to see to all the fellas I’m a threat to society”

[@haruyasumi616]

melle mel seems surprisingly subdued here though. in superrappin he stands out and owns it

[@fitzroybartley9986]

MOST Definitely

[@katalinkovacs2369]

Oh Yes, yes yes...

[@wuwear912]

Flash net worth is 6 mill now gd job homie

[@steelmember6326]

👏

[@nickthebigt2003]

The second record i buyed

[@mallaes2006]

Wow.. never heard this version

[@masmony2647]

free Kid Creole!!

[@brentfisher902]

It's kind of weird to think that this song came out BEFORE my father made a ROUND mixtape of the music he liked on a reel-to-reel recorder and one of the songs on one of the tapes was Blondie's "Rapture". And also today I learned that Christopher Cross'es album from 1979 was recorded on a digital recorder. So--You think it's new? Think again!

[@fumiqrockwell8682]

1979 peace

[@coreybrooks2681]

Back in the day this was the real b-boy shit Smurfs out Smurf Ossining New York

[@afroqbnoacere6826]

LOL When I was blessed to hear this for the first time, my conclusion was SuperRappin' was rap's first remix. Personally I prefer this 2-step groove better. I think Joe and Sylvia Robinson had to change up the beat to distinguish the sound from one label to another.

[@LosAmitydelnorte]

Thank you @nardwuar for bringing me here.

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

super rapping

[@gothadelic9396]

2:11 first 'fuck' in a rap song

[@biggerduke]

Hahahaha...I would not have caught that because it is somewhat hidden by the snare hit.

[@rickydfcc77]

He said "Fuss"

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

comments to Hans wow it sounds like a good album

[@RapperSkatR]

I saw on the Vinyl that this single came out in 1979. I heard they made two other singles 'Flash to the Beat' and 'Superrappin' did all three of these singles come out in 1979?

[@SPAZZOID100]

Yes

[@kennethbarrie2213]

Only superrapping came out in 79, flash to the beat came like in 82.✌️

[@tazbee3920]

So this funky joint must have come out before Rappers delight?... Only reason being that it's not on the Sugar Hill label... I know its shaving things 'right down to the bone' of Hip Hop history ...but.. If it comes down to days and dates within weeks in 79 we all would love to know... Did this record come out first or after or evening during.. Imagine if (hype-prophetically speaking) Sugar Hill Gang battling (for their lives) against The Furious Five .. Live on stage... Either way SugarHillGang would have got 'Furiously-Crushed' twice! (they should have rapped about pizzas instead) PEACZzzzEr P P PEACE

[@rickydfcc77]

Rapper's Delight (9/79) followed King Tim III (3/79); We Rap More Mellow was distributed by record pools on the East Coast in Dec. '79/Jan.'80. In between was Lady B, Sequence and Kurtis Blow

[@jamalyoung-zq9gl]

We gotta give a fuck😂😂

[@rickydfcc77]

"Fuss" is what he probably said, it rhymes and fits; but yes, that's what I thought he said too lol

[@chrish813]

The intro sounds just like soul sacrifice - Santana

[@welfaredad]

Is that the same Terry Lewis from Jimmy Jam?

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

No flash the five

[@merchantsmithimages]

Rahim said they were never paid for this song in 1979. They were ripped off by the producer. He didn't even us their name on the label as you can see.

[@rickydfcc77]

Welcome to the record business smh

[@annother3350]

They faded off the last half hour...

[@sheldonhchambliss1385]

Alfonso they almost made this song all over on enjoy called super rapping we're they rap over seven minutes of funk don't whole me against that just like message two in Scorpio I hear the same beat once again good sharing DJ knowledge DJ mighty master cee Rock on

[@kingjames9505]

I dug this, but superrappin was much mo betta.

[@mubashariqbal6341]

Nardwar

[@SmashinAdams]

Was this produced by Terry Lewis, as in Jimmy Jam?

[@johnniecale]

No

[@thescatman5029]

@@johnniecale I don't know about that. This has a similar sound to Captain Rapp's "I Can't Stand It!" That was a Jimmy and Terry joint!

[@gtizzle7606]

it wasn't. there are two different people named Terry Lewis.@@thescatman5029

[@alexslavinzki2408]

A big rip of The Furious Five.

[@randee4550]

That is the Furious 5!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@eligorham3923]

Free Creole

[@terencebuie7463]

No they took Stephanie mills put your body. And trend from that

[@SPAZZOID100]

No

[@maddamage]

Actually It Was Tracked Off Good Times On The First Day Of Recording And It Was Changed To This Beat On The Second Day Of Recording . The Good Times Version Was The Best Thing I’ve Ever Heard At That Time .The Furious 5 Was On The Top Of Their Game That Day . I Cried The Whole Session It Was Beautiful . My Name Is Wayne Will

[@merchantsmithimages]

That is the baseline from "Put Your Body to it". It even has the guitar rifts.

[@Maurice572]

Plunky And The Oneness Of Juju - Every Way But Loose (Extended Version) kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3fJiZ-ke5qlpaM

[@marfred88]

Out before rappers delight and better beats

[@juansaladzar]

Lots of cars breaking down in this cut brah 🤔