TRACT TORIC 4.5-30X56 ELR Rifle Scope Review

[@seanhines5721]

Own both the Tract and ZCO myself. I've had the Tract for over a year and I can honestly say its right up there with some of the best of them for a fraction of the cost. Certainly worth the buy and the owners Jon and Jon are great to deal with. Great review.

[@The4GunGuy]

HI Sean! Thanks for the perspective and I have to agree with you 100%. The only thing I wish was that they had made the reticle a bit thicker, like the ZCO's, but other than that, it's very close glass wise with my older eyes. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@stevetravis3400]

Excellent review, really like the matrix on your reviews..

[@The4GunGuy]

Thanks SteveTravis and thanks for watching my friend!

[@DRHODES1979]

Absolutely love this review! I've had a Tract for a couple years now and have loved it. However, I decided to buy a ZCO because of how many people said the glass was more superior than most other scopes. I wanted to have the best equipment to give me the best chance of success. I have liked the ZCO very much, but I still loved the reticle and the turrets better on my Tract. And, In my opinion and untrained eye, I really can't tell that much of a difference in glass quality. Not to mention the Trigger Cam (which I have also) is much easier to mount on the Tract. I've been considering selling my ZCO and buying two more Toric's! This video may have helped me make up my mind! Thanks for a great review! I also have a couple competition video's using the Toric with my Trigger Cam on my channel if you'd like to check them out.

[@The4GunGuy]

HI Dennis 435! Man, thanks so much for the kind words! I totally agree with you and the only thing I would say is that I like the thicker reticle on the ZCO, but that hasn't impacted me much at all on the Toric. Glass wise, yeah, I'm an older guy and agree that the glass is very similar on both. TOTALLY agree with the TriggerCam statement and wish they had made that thing a bit bigger since I'm really scratching up that ZCO. I'll check out your video for sure and thanks for watching my friend!

[@The4GunGuy]

One other thing...I'm now spoiled with those easy to adjust and easy to read turrets on the TRACT Toric! I cuss my stiff ZCO turrets now!

[@DRHODES1979]

@@The4GunGuy Yes, I really do love the Tract turrets!

[@SPR_ACTUAL]

Loved the comparison of specs and reticles. Awesome video. Definitely considering the Tract as my next optic!

[@The4GunGuy]

Thanks DV! I'm still loving that scope and have had no issues with it at all. In fact, when I go back to my ZCO for centerfire, I find the turrets way too stiff now. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@donaldcostello8312]

Great video i have 4 Tract scopes and love them keep up the good work.

[@The4GunGuy]

Thanks Donald!

[@stevensrspcplusmc]

Great review, I have the same scope , one thing I noticed was the parallax matches the dial.. I did a tracking test and did a box test and it was perfect. The glass is better than my high end vortex and leupold scopes.. for the money is a no brained!

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Steven! I totally agree. Although I did just buy another Vortex Razor Gen III to see if they've fixed the issues I pointed out in that review...We'll see. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@alexandreduruisseau8086]

Great review! If you want to update your matrix, I own a Bushnell XRS3 6-36x56 and it comes with a throw lever and sunshade. Also, it is made in Japan at LOW.

[@commonsense5709]

Great review. The Tract Toric ELR offers a good value for mid priced optics and is a nice alternative to tier 1 scopes at around half the price and less. I do own a Tract Toric ELR and Athlon Cronus BTR but prefer my March scopes which aren't mass produced and are hand assembled with meticulous individual attention and each and every single one of them are actually tested by a human before they are even boxed up. I really think March scopes are the only brand of scopes that are really worth paying full price for.

[@commonsense5709]

Tract offers 15% off for law enforcement and military personnel and have sales once to twice a year for 10% off during December and $100 off this past August. I am really looking forward to buying a Vortex Razor 3 6-36x56 as soon as the next shipment arrives and hopefully they addressed the turret issues but at least I know that Vortex will send an expedited prepaid shipping label so there's no out of pocket shipping expense to have the turrets improved.

[@Magicalamazing]

Nice comparison and review! I have a Venom on my .22 PRS/NRL rifle and I am trying to decide if/what I should upgrade to. I've been thinking Toric or Gen III Razor. The Toric is very tempting, but I'm having a real tough time getting past the height of the turrets, though the feel and clicks are pretty good. Having played a bit with a Gen III also I can say they do seem to have fixed the turret issues on them but my comparison is to a Venom so take that with a grain of salt lol.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Magic! So, just to be open and honest here, I have gone back to the Razor Gen III on both my Centerfire and .22LR competition guns. I do LOVE the Toric and I actually like the turrets the best out of any I've used (they are a bit 'quiet', but very tactile). My reasoning is that while I ran a ZCO for my centerfire rifle, my eyes are bad enough to where even THAT glass doesn't help me spot trace or even some misses, so I decided to re-visit the Gen III (see my initial review, which was not favorable) when Eurooptic had a great sale on them...Got one, tried it and they have fixed everything that I said was wrong in that video. So I decided to standardize on it for both comp rifles. I am keeping the Toric as my backup scope for both, which to me, still says a lot about my confidence in it. I think however for .22LR, either scope is great. Thanks for watching and commenting my friend!

[@commonsense5709]

The Tract Toric ELR (regularly priced at $1694) is currently on sale at Tract Optics for $1440 until December 11 2022 during their 15% off sale. It's a better alternative compred to the Athlon Cronus BTR.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hey Common Sense! I just shot the 22LR PRS Nationals and although I didn't shoot well, I can tell you that my TRACT Toric performed flawlessly. I'm still so impressed with this scope and agree that for that price, for Schott glass, you can't beat it.

[@ForceRecon112]

Hey 4GG!!! As always I end up coming back to your vids for info! I was recommended this scope by a friend and then i saw the price. Then I saw the price with a mil discount and that caught my eye. After looking on snipershide and then your video, I'm pretty well sold on this scope! Awesome and comprehensive video as always! Do you have any experience with the Leupold mk5 scopes? It was between this and the mk5hd 5-25x56. This had a little less elevation but everything else seemed up to par. Thanks as always!

[@ProjectArms4719]

This scope seems to be on par with the Zeiss LRP S3 & S5

[@fl_protection]

3rd time today watching your videos. This time I was purposely searching for this exact same scope, and you popped up. Man, I’m glad it did. I was stuck between the Tract, Athlon, or the Maven. I’m really leaning towards the Tract, but man it’s so hard to finalize my decision. lol. Thank you thank you for all your efforts with these videos. Definitely a lot easier to make my decision when I make my purchase. God bless

[@The4GunGuy]

Thanks FLP! I have to say that the TRACT has been a great scope for me for under $2k. Thanks for watching my friend and God Bless!

[@darrylryder8114]

You ain't right brother! Everything was going great when we were looking at the radicals and then you skipped the maven I wanted to know what you thought about the maven which is what I picked over the Tract Toric. I definitely noticed the weight of the maven. But I love my maven

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Darryl! Yeah, I couldn't get hold of a Maven and I would have loved to have added it to my actual viewing comparison. I don't have 100's of thousands of subscribers so can only afford what I can/have. Maybe someday I'll do another comparison when I can get a Maven. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@perchowski3021]

Im running the Primary arms platinum w/Athena reticle. I really like the Chevron for precision shot placement. I like being able to "lollipop" with the Chevron, I just find it easier to be precise when aiming. Also it does have .1mil subtensions, but only between the 2-3mil markings, I'm assuming so the reticle isn't so busy. I don't find it hard to shoot without the .1mil subtensions. Each mark is .2mil, so middle of them is .1.. it's not perfect, but i also haven't come across a scope that is. Another positive is that Primary arms is local. The first platinum 6-30 I got was actually defective and was worse than not tracking. I believe something was loose because my dope was changing from one day to the next lol. I shot my first match with it and couldn't hit anything, even my dope was wrong from shooting the day prior. found that the tracking was way off. It was a Sunday evening and I contacted Primary arms about the scope not tracking. They are out of stock until November (and this happened ~6 months ago) but luckily they had 1 at their warehouse that they hold onto specifically for situations like this. I had the scope exchanged with a functioning one in under 24hrs. Of finding out that it wasn't tracking, so experienced some great customer service which adds some piece of mind if you are considering going with a primary arms product.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hey Perchowski! Thanks for the great feedback to us all! Glad that chevron doesn't interfere with your shot placement. I like the concept, just wasn't sure about taking the time to place the target on the top of the chevron. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@jamessammann9183]

I bought a athlon arier etr i really like it

[@ChadCooper03]

This is a fantastic review. Newly subbed. I love the comparison matrix. Ive got a 16 inch DD Delta 5 Pro that I’m looking to scope up. I was thinking of getting the 4-20x version of this. Maybe I’ll get the larger one. Thank you!

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Chad! Thanks so much for the kind words and for subscribing my friend!

[@ChadCooper03]

@@The4GunGuyYou got it! Do you have any anecdotal experience with the Leupold Mark 5 HD? I’m looking at that, in the 5-25 with Pr2 reticle, the Vortex Rzr Gen 2, or the tract as you discussed. All have pros and cons

[@The4GunGuy]

@@ChadCooper03 Any of those are really good scopes. I will say that the Leupold reticle is DIFFERENT in that each hash mark is .25 mils instead of the normal .2 mils, which, if using two different scopes for competition like I do (one for my centerfire and one for rimfire) and they are different makes (say vortex vs. Leupold), you may get confused when you're behind each one and have to think about which hash mark means what. The TRACT is a really nice scope for me and I've really come to love it. BUT, I will say that the reticle is a bit thin on the TRACT, even at my normal 12 - 16 magnification, it can take me a second to see it...I'm older, so it might just be me. Finally, when I owned it, I absolutely loved my Razor Gen II (NOT Gen III). I bought that scope for the EBR-7C reticle which I believe is still one of the best out there today. The glass was "good to very good" and the thing was built like a tank. A good problem to have my friend as each one would be a good choice!

[@ChadCooper03]

@@The4GunGuy We live in the best of times with scopes. My problem is there are too many good choices, like you said! Thanks so much for your feedback. I’m going to keep researching them and see if I can find someone local who’s has one and take a look first hand.

[@The4GunGuy]

@@ChadCooper03 That's the best thing you can do my friend...Make sure it's right for YOUR eyes. Good luck!

[@tallyman15]

The new Burris XTR III is manufactured in Philippines, not China. The older models are/were manufactured in U.S. The new XTR Pro is manufactured in the U.S.

[@The4GunGuy]

Thanks Tallyman15! I got the info off the internet and we know that the internet is NEVER wrong! Anyway, thanks for the clarification and can you please post the link to that information for us all? Thanks for watching my friend!

[@vigo3687]

Tract, Cronus, xtr3 or maven rs4 this decision has taken up so much of my life… it’s going on a 6.5prc. Just want best “bang for the buck” my current scope is a riton 3.. wife said “ok” but if it’s not for me you can only imagine the headache

[@The4GunGuy]

Yep, these are the tough decisions! Having looked through a Cronus before, I can say that to me, the TRACT was clearer. The turrets take some getting used to, but I actually love them more than the ZCO and my Razor Gen III. Thanks for watching my friend and good luck in your decision!

[@vigo3687]

@@The4GunGuy really appreciate the response.

[@Womfat]

Do you still plan to do a video on the gen 3? Curious to hear your thoughts. I just received mine and it seems to be very promising. My only complaint is the elevation turret, as you mentioned as well. I'll be running it for a match this weekend, and if I like it, I'll run it for nationals in TX as well.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Womfat! To be honest, I basically sold the Gen III mid-review, I was that disappointed in it. However, I do want to put together some type of review and be more objective since I believe it does have some very good qualities. It just wasn't for ME and my eyes. I'd go back to a Gen II in a heart-beat if I'm ever so inclined, but I have to say that I am LOVING this TRACT. Thanks for watching another one my friend and see you at the Nationals!

[@Womfat]

@@The4GunGuy Ah, that’s understandable, I’ve abandoned many videos halfway through haha

[@The4GunGuy]

@@Womfat I just finished the Gen III video last night thanks to your interest. Be a week or two until released, but I did want to "calm down" and give it an honest review. It really is a great scope and maybe I just got a lemon...It happens, but still a big fan of Vortex!

[@1clnsdime1]

U need to send the gen 3 in its daylight and dark with the fix and it only takes a week. I love the Tract retical it's got the one thing missing from the vortex rerical I want and that's the small half mill dots. Imo that about the perfect retical for prs.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Andrew! That was my point in regards to the Gen III...Why do I have to send your product BACK to you to be fixed AFTER I've bought it? I have had many Vortex products and loved them, but if they keep sending product out that's not right and expecting us to send it back just so they can have the revenue early on, then I'm going to be a non-Vortex consumer. I had the Gen III and can honestly say that this Toric is every bit as good through MY eyes. Hey, thanks for watching my friend!

[@1clnsdime1]

@@The4GunGuy If this was the 3rd product that this had happened on I would agree. But when I called they just said yes sir I'll send a label sent your way. Alot of companies would say what problem the scope works fine. But in 4 min I had a over night return label in my email. From what I'm hearing the next large batch that hits the states will have a engineering update to fix the issue. Now this time next year we still have new scopes hitting the streets with mushy turrets and that don't lock up that will be a issue. Every company will have a new product issue from time to time. But how they fix that issue is what I look at. To many people like to bash Vortex bc it's the cool thing to not like them. But not many companies support the sport like they do and no one beats there customer service.

[@The4GunGuy]

@@1clnsdime1 Oh, totally agree that they make things right. I dropped a red dot in competition one year...No questions asked, they just sent me a new one. They are AWESOME at customer service. That's why I'll most likely continue to buy certain Vortex products because I can count on them making things right...Just not the Gen III :)

[@w.t.pstandforyourlife.5639]

Nice video brother, also beautiful rifle could you do a video on how you zero and mount your scope I just purchased that scope and I don’t know sh@ about this stuff thanks

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi W.T.P.! Thanks for the kind words my friend! I'm putting some links below here and I've included them in the video description. The one video is a good, quick one on mounting a scope using the Wheeler mounting kit. It's pretty straight forward, just take...your...time when you are 1) getting the levels to agree; and 2) tightening down the scope ring screws. I'll try to get a video out soon! Wheeler Scope Leveling Kit: amzn.to/3C9K0oc Lower Cost Leveling Kit: amzn.to/3vsbLEB Leveling Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3imnYh_r9dpaaM Tipton Ultra Gun Vise: amzn.to/3WCqMj1

[@darrellryan2337]

can you tell me about the lens on your scope that helps you see the turret marks clear, my eyes are getting to the point I struggle to see the turret numbers. thanks

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Darrell! The magnifier is from MKM (www.mkmachining.com/product/gen-ii-pro-series-turret-magnifier/#tube-size). There are other options out there, but this works for me. In addition, I've just mounted ballistic or turret tape which is a total game changer, especially in low light conditions. You can see that at: idts-dryfire.com/product/ballistic-tape/ (they have a magifier as well). Thanks for watching my friend!

[@commonsense5709]

Can you please review the Apex Rival 4-32x56? It might be the next game changer with 15MILs per rotation and 32MILs total elevation travel with pop up rotation indicator and optics with 97% light transmission.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Common Sense! I'd love to if I could get hold of one for review. The reticle is a very close copy of the ZCO MPCT2 reticle that I like so much.

[@couespursuit7350]

What percentage of the glass in the TRACT scope is SHOT Glass? 1005%, 50% or say 25%?

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi 7350! My understanding is that all the glass is Schott glass, but I can't be 100% sure. I can tell you that it is very, very clear and gives my Razor Gen III a run for the money.

[@BrandonSmith0626]

How did it do with close targets 25 yards for NRL22? Make a video on the Bushnell DMR 3.

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Team Alumacraft FTW! In our steel safari we had targets at 15 yds and it performed great at that distance. I'll try to put the Bushnell in my budget for this year...Thanks for watching my friend!

[@BrandonSmith0626]

@@The4GunGuy thank you for the response by chance do you remember if you could have got the Bushnell XRS3 down to 25 yards. I know it’s says 50 but it seems like a really nice scope for the money. That’s why I went with the DMR 3 vs the XRX 3 It’s meets everything I wanted for NRL22 except the parallax.

[@The4GunGuy]

@@BrandonSmith0626 I don't think you'd have an issue taking it down to 25 yds to be honest. It's not going to be that "fuzzy" that you won't be able to see the target and I don't think it will affect the actual sight picture that much. If the glass is what you like and the reticle (that's a big one for me) is what you like, then look through one if you can and go for it.

[@ThinkSoberly]

Have you ever used it out to a mile ? How did it do?

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Think! I haven't taken it past 1,100 yds, but it was clear at that distance. Not sure about a mile...Maybe someday. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@timurtim4469]

Tract Toric 4,5-30-56, & Delta Stryker hd 4,5-30-56 ?? Which is better ?

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Timur! I've never looked through a Delta before so can't really give you an honest answer. Sorry and thanks for watching my friend!

[@darrylryder8114]

And I have a couple Ritons and they just don't compare

[@commonsense5709]

Ritons appear to be well below average for their prices.

[@jamessammann9183]

Where can i buy one ..want it 4 my 7 prc

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi James! You can get them directly from TRACT, but they have sales every so often for $100 off so you might want to wait...tractoptics.com/riflescopes/toric-uhd-4-5-30x56-34mm-ffp-mrad-elr-extreme-long-range-rifle-scope

[@jamessammann9183]

​@@The4GunGuythank u sir

[@quickdrawx007]

What height scope mount are you using sir?

[@The4GunGuy]

HI Quickdraw! I've gone to a 1.5" scope mount so my head is more upright when I make my cheek weld. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@quickdrawx007]

@@The4GunGuy thanks. I spoke to Vudoo and they said a 1.18” would work. I thought I’d like it higher for the same reason. 30MOA base and maybe 20-30MOA on my scope mount should get me out pretty far dialing.

[@dragonflyfab9703]

Tract Toric vs Athlon Ares etr. Both 4.5-30 56mm ffp mil?

[@commonsense5709]

The Japan made Tract Toric ELR is a superior scope compared to the Chinese Athlon Ares ETR. Buy the Athlon Ares ETR if you prefer overpriced Chinese made scopes over Japanese scopes. The Athlon Ares ETR is the best scope that China has to offer but is no match for the Tract Toric ELR.

[@lamarvinfomby9360]

So in your opinion having the Razor Gen III, how does the tract compare to it?

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi LaMarvin! Well, to ME, the Gen III was a "good" scope, but it didn't live up to all the hype of being a Tier 1 competitor. Certainly not up there with my ZCO glass wise. The mushy turrets that I'd have had to send the scope in to get fixed really upset me...You just don't release a scope like that to the public. And finally, having to adjust the parallax for distance changes of 100 yds all the time was the final straw for me (again, that could have been because of my own eyes, but I don't have to do that on my ZCO or this Toric). Comparison to the Toric? I'd go with the Toric every time...Now, that's just ME for MY eyes. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@lamarvinfomby9360]

Thanks for the information...I really appreciate you sharing..

[@commonsense5709]

I own a Tract Toric ELR and am looking forward to buying the Vortex Razor 3 as soon as one of my go to vendors have them back in stock and hopefully this next batch has already addressed the lackluster turrets.

[@dragonflyfab9703]

Tract Toric vs Athlon Ares etr?

[@The4GunGuy]

Hi Dragonfly Fab! I've looked through the Ares ETR and can tell you that in MY opinion with MY eyes, the TRACT blew it away. Cronus? Not sure, since I haven't looked through one. Thanks for watching again my friend!

[@commonsense5709]

Theres no comparison, the Japanese Tract Toric ELR is superior to the Chinese Athlon Ares ETR. The Japanese Athlon Cronus BTR is very similar to the Tract Toric ELR and manufactured in the same factory but the Toric has better glass and turrets but the difference in optics is close between these but the Chinese Ares ETR is not in the same league as the Toric.

[@Sagittariustoo]

You sold your ZCO, WTH? You're not my brother in scopes anymore!

[@The4GunGuy]

Don't worry Brother, I still have a ZCO on my centerfire! LOVE that scope and will always have at least one. Just gonna focus on centerfire this next year, so didn't need $4k of glass on a rifle I'm only gonna shoot once a month in competition.

[@Sagittariustoo]

@@The4GunGuy Was just kidding with you, 4gunguy, lol Heard good thing about the Tract Toric.