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[@rejectyourselfbadass8337]

Cetrion probably the most wasted potential character of the franchise and giving her a more fleshed out story wasn't a hard task.

[@duncangaming4165]

Well aside from Rain and Reptile

[@aerithroses2683]

There’s geras

[@Let_me_cook99.1]

@@duncangaming4165 and baraka and some other jobbers

[@Iqzzy-KO]

@@duncangaming4165 & also Chameleon!

[@duncangaming4165]

@@Iqzzy-KO You know, you're not wrong about that.

[@HMZeroTwo]

The fact that Cetrion's own ending made her more interesting than the Story Mode did is a transgression

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Cetrion is such a hypocrite in all her dialogues

[@thedarkapex5327]

I think that may be the point, she seems to be some high horsed character, like a snobby being who thinks she's above all because she is an Elder god and while other elder gods may be wise, I think she is full of herself and I think that's on purpose maybe?? I imagine Thor in God Of War Ragnarok will be the same but just more brutish and Hedonistic I personally don't think she is a bad character because of her dialogue though, I personally don't think we can really hold that against a character because it's Kombat dialogue if that makes sense?? maybe I don't make a lick of sense lol

[@nabilahmed579]

That should’ve been enough to make her the main villain if we can’t get dark raiden. Have her agree with shinnok only to satisfy her part of her fucked up agenda: genociding the realm for “peace”. You could also have try to justify by saying killing everyone, no one has a chance in bringing back the one being

[@randomguy9988]

I like how she gives her power to Liu Kang, since I found it so weird how 2 mortals and a lesser god managed to destroy an elder god and a titan

[@alrightagain4605]

I mean its safe to say 2 Liu Kangs and a Raiden fusion can beat Cetrion. 1 Liu Kang is arguably around Shao Kahns level and he legit just boxes Shinnok back to the Netherealm.

[@detestabiliscorvus2673]

@@alrightagain4605 I think by 2 mortals he meant Jax and Jacqui.

[@Truly_Sithari]

@@alrightagain4605 shinnok was written rather poorly since he got defeated by cassie and he's way stronger as an elder God and my explanation to fix it is he got weaker since he was in the netherrelm for so long

[@zero1zerolast393]

I don't know why people think Titan means anything. We only ever seen one and she got whooped by two mortal born

[@the-point-bearer6689]

@@Truly_Sithari That should've explained that had Shinnok not been thrown into Netherrealm which the Elder Gods stripped the power out of, he would've dominated everyone.

[@Ghost-nj7nj]

How the hell is there a playable Elder God on the roaster and in the story and they still can't manage to win a fucking fight.

[@shadowarro9426]

I know right?!

[@nabilahmed579]

Plot armor, can’t beat that shit remember

[@Ghost-nj7nj]

@@nabilahmed579 Seems like plot anti-Armor in this case

[@nabilahmed579]

@@Ghost-nj7nj I mean, there is literally nothing stopping her in her way. She has way more powers showcased but she doesn’t use them lol Edit: read your comment the wrong way lol

[@vcsa681]

Because jobber villain

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

You'd think that a character like Cetrion, who is supposed to be the opposite to Shinnok's malicious and devastating nature, would be more prone to defecting to the protagonists' side out of compassion. But then again, this is coming from the same writers who said "Sindel look evil, so we make Sindel evil."

[@dr.calibrations7984]

"She's not even above Raiden's level" Why you gotta disrespect my boi Raiden like that The shit I took this morning is above her level

[@Jose-se9pu]

Sometimes I forgot Cetrion was an elder god, and Kronica was a freaking titan...

[@boomboombooty1394]

Cetrion is a character I genuinely forgot was in the due to lack lustre her appearance was in the story mode and in the whole game as a whole

[@ryanm.8720]

In the follow-up game (Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)), Cetrion didn't receive a single passing mention in the Story or in the pre-fight intros, implying that the writers forgot about her as well. This is despite the fact that her mother (seemingly) returned from the dead, and a throwaway line from Liu Kang revealed that Cetrion's brother (Shinnok) was reborn as a mortal in the New Era.

[@SoulReaper2367]

I like the idea of her being the mysterious woman in Jade’s mk9 ending

[@TheDigitalApple]

I still keep forgetting Cetrion is an elder god, yet considering how much NRS barely used her in MK11 you’d forgive me for thinking so.

[@Vegeta241]

Cetrion in my eyes was the second most wasted character of the story behind Dark Raiden, and damn it, you did her great justice here Snake. This was amazingly creative!

[@nerdscore6756]

And Sindel banshee scream is able enough to hurt Cetrion yet characters need to tag team to take her out or need a power up.

[@nabilahmed579]

Honestly, they could’ve explained it with the fact that another elder god was possessing sindel through the soul chamber. Cetrion killed the elder gods but only their physical form. Heck, maybe you can use jade’s mk9 ending and say she switched in terms of which person she is possessing. I could imagine an “dead” elder goddess using a host to try and get revenge. Maybe try to work with shao Kahn to get her own plans to fruition and when it’s time, fuck him over. Kinda like with the spectre in dc and the host he choses Heck, it gives an acc explanation to sindel’s retcon and why she is so ridiculously op now.

[@SamCal]

@@nabilahmed579 YOU ARE FULL OF CREATIVITY AND I LOVE YOU. THIS is an actual logical plot piece that actually would make sense if it was canon

[@togucvinw7]

@@nabilahmed579 To be fair , edenian royal familly (so Sindel, Jerod and Kitana, maybe to some extent Mileena since she is her clone ) are said in canon to be descendants of elder god Argus (father of Rain, Daegon and Taven) so it makes sense that Sindel was powerful enough to damage Cetrion(makes more sens than Jonny Cage bs green energy)

[@nabilahmed579]

@@togucvinw7 if she can do that to an elder god, then she can just say fuck everyone, conquer shit by herself and boom, she gets what she wants, yet she gets killed by Quan chi and nightwolf and mk11, made nightwolf’s powers more stupid and genuine questions why tf nightwolf would even commit suicide if he has a move that doesn’t need to? Her harming elder gods was literally stupid plot convenience. She can do it but fujin can’t? That’s bs just as bs as JC’s energy idea Where tf is the need for shao Kahn? No where bcoz she can pretty much beat him if that’s acc the case

[@Truly_Sithari]

@@togucvinw7 youre wrong because if what you said is true, jerrod would kill shao kahn easily and he'd be the kahn of outworld or if edenia merges with outworld then kahn of edenia. Also it isn't just the royalty it's all edenians and they just have sorcery and strength like the hulk

[@vadandrumist1670]

I think there should be something along the lines of a character like an Elder God needing to give up their power to decend into the mortal realms for a non-arbitrary reason. Something like most of that power being necessary to maintain the realms and is something they simply tap into as elder gods rather than it being a part of them, or needing to limit their power since if they didn't manifesting within a realm would begin unraveling it. It's rather annoying that while characters supposedly are beyond mortal strength and/or gain upgrades in power nothing about their gameplay changes with rare and relatively mundane exceptions. I get that you want to keep things balanced for multiplayer and standard matches, but the campaign should be the place to represent the characters at their true strength.

[@codafett]

Honestly, I think the implication is that Elder Gods are the same as the "regular" gods, they just occupy a higher plane of existence. Since Raiden was able to become on in MK4 and all.

[@wheresprototype3507]

Man it's stuff like this makes me wish we could start a Kickstarter to make snake get a position on the storyboarding

[@madasmax4342]

Man your name gave me a huge sadness that i forgot, i hate u :'(((

[@smokey3504]

I really have no idea what's going on in the writer's room at NRS. I understand that to a certain degree a creative vision is going to get muddied by studio interference, but MK11, most of MKX, and the final act of MK9 all feel like they had no idea what to do with the characters and just jotted down whatever would keep them from getting fired that week. Here in these three high budget, narratively driven games, they have the opportunity to piece together narratively interesting stories that flesh out these characters who each have their own widespread fanbase, and instead they seem to drop the ball at every turn. This series is important because it points out how truly awful NRS has handled its characters and their development in the last three games

[@Truly_Sithari]

Nah just bad writers like Dominic ciancolo did a joke of the sindel we all know and love and he didn't even make a poorly written version of our sindel like he does give some personalities to characters as seen by mileena for example

[@rcblazer]

The way they handled Cetrion in MK11 only serves to remind me of Phelous' "Elder Gods of Useless" and how accurate that term truly is.

[@Cacodemon-vk3zt]

It's kinda sad when a guy on youtube can come up with a better and more coherant Mortal Kombat story than the "professional" writers at NRS.

[@steepsort6905]

The writers at NRS aren't even professionals. They replaced the true professionals and did no research whatsoever.

[@mrrattrap1488]

The "writer" in NRS are mostly hired because they matched the sjw criterions

[@shawklan27]

@RPG Maker Horror Game Fan exactly

[@gjtrue]

Agreed. The moronic reasons they gave for butchering Sindel is a prime example. What they did with her alone conflicts horrendously with Mortal Kombat's overall lore and history.

[@nabilahmed579]

@@gjtrue signs were already shown of how incompetent their storytelling is before her retcon. E.g. shao Kahn coming back when we worked so hard to get rid of him in mk9 permanently I could name a lot more but you get the point

[@masterfulwarriorplus5398]

And we most likely never will get a Cetrion vs. Shinnok fight even though Cetrion most likely always be the winner light beats dark.

[@MattSayYay]

Someone's been playing Kingdom Hearts... (at least I think that's how it works in those games)

[@Smashboi76]

@@MattSayYay no one knows how it works in kingdom hearts, not even the fans

[@aleanddragonITA]

The Mortal Kombat Onslaught Trailer kinda had a Shinnok vs Cetrion

[@Macaulyn_97]

Cetrion was such a disappointment to me. I was one of the few people who liked her design, since its very different from anything we had in MK before, so when the story set her up to be conflicted, I thought she would have a hero reveal at the end, when Kronika asked for her to sacrifice herself, I thought "Okay, no she gives her power to Liu Kang", like, even the idea of her Elder God soul being what pushes Fire God Liu Kang's power to the same level as Kronika's made perfect sense. But no... we her story just ends with her being a good daughter to her mommy and we having a massive logic hole of a mortal guy with a Lesser God's power being able to match a Titan who just absorbed an Elder God's soul.

[@ZS05]

I smiled so big when I saw the notification for this video. I actually forgot Cetrion existed and this made me want more for her. Dammit Netherrealm.

[@comicmanic8713]

I like her connection to Jade. It would be cool to go in-depth with that some how regardless dope video 🥳

[@herbalyzoltan409]

Then we could say one of the Elder Gods finally did something since creating the realms

[@Ars-Nova258]

Cetrion could have been a forboding antagonist on her own as an Elder God yet to fall, a being who could have aided in the creation of Dark Raiden to possibly complete her plans as she pretended to be as useless as the other Elder Gods. Instead we have t-“CRANK IT UP!!! FORGET ABOUT ELDER GODS!!! CASSIE CAGE NUTSHOT ONE IN THE PREVIOUS GAME!!! WE HAVE TO GO ABOVE THE ONE BEING ITSELF (Until twitter retcons)!!!” This isn’t Dragon Ball Super, we don’t need to keep going over the raw power level of the last antagonist. The Deadly Alliance worked just fine… oh, I forgot that we must barely acknowledge the DA-Armageddon era. I’ll shut up now.

[@TheNadroj10]

Exactly this isn’t some anime shit where every villian technically has to be stronger than the last. I don’t know how Netherrealm just got worse at lore and storytelling. Especially when the one being should have been the villian if they were just going to reset the timeline again

[@the-point-bearer6689]

No, no I can see where you're coming from and the idea I had for Cetrion as she walks up to Shinnok, she was disappointed that he suffered defeat at the hands of Raiden and thus she comes up of a plot to enact punishment to Lesser Gods and Mortals alike who abused such gifts that were granted and if she ever runs into one she reveals to them as an Elder Goddess and she is in fact affiliated with Shinnok, this comes up as baffling as there is no way they are alike in some ways, and she can assure them they are when questioning her why don't they step in when Shao Kahn broke the rules, she answers they probably have other plans for the realms and not just Earthrealm and Outworld because they don't do favors for them only if there is troubling concerning with the return of the abstract concept. Titans (or Titanes if you bother) have no involvement in this and they don't create beings as we are led to believe as the Elder Gods have the knowledge to keep it balanced which is why they have Furies to keep the dimensions from fluctuating in the first place. Geras can just be a name for the top-half Hourglass, but the character be an automaton codenamed: "Terminas" for one purpose: termination. I could easily have Kronika (renaming her Kronikla) to be the Elder God so it could make it much easier, but I have different plans for her, she could be an automaton that is based on rejected doll like design who happens to have argumentative power to piece things back together, much like Terminas that are created by Triborg with Sektor and Cyrax are now gone. The Revenants on the other hand, you can have the audience bewildered that they can't be freed by Quan Chi because that was a lie as Liu Kang, Kitana, Jade (she appears with her this time), Kung Lao (appears with Liu Kang), Sindel (appears with all 4 and becomes the guardian and adviser to all 3), Stryker, Smoke (I'm sorry, Enenra), Kabal and Nightwolf still corrupted with the combination of bad memories and resentment, I dunno know what else to think of about that. Dark Raiden (or Yami Raiden if you wish) should remain for the entirety of the chapter, perhaps the energy he releases should have the body changed as the true form reveals that this is what he used to be. Now do you have the pitch for the storyline we should've gotten, and I may be missing some of these things, but that's what I would bother to give these characters some agency.

[@sandrward3500]

The "Snake's cut" on Cetrion improved her by 100%

[@Delta-ass]

Epic low tier god references my guy

[@The4thSnake]

Cetrion is literally a low tier god.

[@Delta-ass]

@@The4thSnake I mean you aren’t wrong.

[@SoulGizmo]

@@The4thSnake oh my god 😆

[@JanAside]

Even though she was not used very well, I really hope she returns one day as I really liked her character.

[@The13thElysium]

I think your ideas for Cetrion sound great! Honestly it highlights the issue of the character chapter system - if Cetrion had her own chapter, you could have shown the inner conflict of her character and justify her hesitation in the final fight with Liu Kang. But because she's a "villain" she doesn't get to be playable in the story! Seriously the character chapters really are so limiting!!! :(

[@mastersharingan98]

i remember back in the day when cetrion was revealed many people thought that she would be the heroine in this story (similar to cassie defeating shinnok, a new comer defeating the final boss) or she would be the key to restoring the revenants, those two theories were better than the role she had in the actual story.....

[@Boigboi88]

To be honest, I liked the idea for Cetrion, just a shame she was written by NRS so she amounted to nothing but fodder

[@Capcom1984]

Cetrion is a Elder God but doesn't have the powers of one and loses every time.

[@andreware2483]

It kind of diminishes the presence of the elder gods in the mk universe as well. After she, what we can assume was able to destroy the other elder gods herself she ends up getting her ass kicked 10 ways from Monday by a rag-tag group of mortals where, as was stated in the video, she hasn't even displayed any level of power comparable to Raiden. It kind of makes the elder gods look like a bunch of chumps and their concept pointless.

[@Capcom1984]

@@andreware2483 True even Shinnok was better then Cetrion.

[@TheNadroj10]

Shao Kahn was right about one thing. The elder gods were weak ass worms

[@Capcom1984]

@@TheNadroj10 Don't you mean the Elder Gods were toothless worms?

[@thedarkapex5327]

I personally loved her character, I want one of the other Elder Gods, mainly the one who had a lion looking head (kinda) to be playable in MK12

[@mysteryneophyte]

That does sound cool but There would need to be something with inthe story that could have them be powered down a bit, so the elser gods are still powerful .

[@vcsa681]

Seeing How newcomers were handled in mk11,i think It's not a good idea

[@PR1ME98]

I never get tired of that LTG soundbite lol

[@DilanQuill]

I really liked Cetrion's looks and the fact that she is also an elder god. Shame they wrote her with less personality than a wet sheet of paper.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Maybe we could write our own version of Cetrion in our fanfics I did fanfics that take place before the first Mortal Kombat. I call them "Mortal Kombat Origins" by DreamRealiser which is my fanfic username "Mortal Kombat Endurance 1 and 2" Now I'm doing one on "Mortal Kombat Red Dragon"

[@triggergamer8027]

All the Elder Gods can't be dead so they all maybe even Cetrion will return in MK12 and maybe Cetrion acknowledge the events of MK11 and explain how foolish and easily manipulated she was for letting her mother path a new era that goes against her good nature and betrayed her fellow Elder Gods and the realms I think Kronika threaten Cetrion in joining her if she didn't accept she'll die with the rest of the Elder Gods.

[@danielsawaked685]

The only redeeming quality of her is her amazing customization in mk11

[@julianparsons3027]

Dang. This is good writing. And you almost saved Kronika's moronic plan too. Didn't think that was possible.

[@themegahunter4694]

The entire MK11 storyline in a sentence "SUCH WASTED POTENTIAL"

[@night6724]

mk11 story was the best

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

@@night6724 Aftermath was bullshit

[@wingbeck4563]

And Cetrion might pop up in the new timeline since she's a god and they reform after death so shouldn't that make Titans reform to after death since they above Elder Gods?

[@hrawwr]

Well yes but no, Liu Kang erased Kronica of time so she'll be not returning and for that Shinnok and Cetrion can't born because they are Kronica's children.

[@destinyseeker9477]

I don't think Elder Gods are actually children of Titans the Elder Gods say that cause Titans are above them and second after The One Being and it is possible to see Cetrion again as gods don't die they reform and they exist in every timeline they have no counterparts.

[@maxmercurythemm827]

The NRS hack writers didn't think that far.

[@hrawwr]

@Super Duper Blurry Mario I was thinking like thst, in Cetrions ending probably she is "mother" of Shinnok and Raiden becausr they do what she and Shinnok did in the old timeline so there's a chance of Liu Kang and Kitana's children could be like the elder god was.

[@redacted2275]

You've changed Kronika's parts and inadvertently improved almost the entire main storyline again just to fix Cetrion. It's better than the NetherRealm Studios' original, again.

[@boyoboyo2272]

This version would have been a great push to make Cetrion, both, more interesting and relevant. Another Wasted Plotential video with really good ideas

[@nabilahmed579]

Or have her be the “ultron” of the franchise, given her arcade ending in mk11. How mortals are always given so many chances but they always fuck up in the end so she genocides everyone for her “peace” plan We can also now tackle the idea of beliefs now. How do elder gods feel now there have been mortals who have beaten so many powerful gods? Cetrion may feel angry about this and she might decide to intervene to carry out her harsh torture to make sure everyone beliefs that elder gods are the highest of beings. You could also try to have her justify her crimes by saying something like destroying the realms means getting rid of one being’s chances to be a reawakened. Also, they could’ve characterised her with the character she kills … cough cough Cassie cage, twindel … mainly for fraud. Could possibly kill d’vorah for being a plague in the new era, heck you can even kill kotal Kahn (if he was a god) for not upholding the prowess of a god and showing it’s true capabilities. Basically, we have an irredeemable bitch and we get to avoid having kronika as a main antagonist and avoid retconning sindel. But this will be the last resort if they can’t do shit with dark raiden

[@boyoboyo2272]

@@nabilahmed579 I like a couple of your ideas. What I’d really like to see is a conflict that arises between Cetrion and Shinnok at a theme, not particularly of “good” vs “evil,” but of “life” vs “death.” With Cetrion representing life and Shinnok representing death

[@nabilahmed579]

@@boyoboyo2272 speaking about that, if they are planning to cap off the series (for the story side), have the elder gods be the final villains of the franchise. Elder gods have a discussion whether to have the realms destroyed or have them live but under some strict circumstances. Literally every single elder god is technically a villain considering all they do is fuck over earthrealm. That’s where we could get the light vs dark come in possibly (although I want cetrion as a villain as I do see some potential, we r gonna the “light” route since that is what she is meant to represent). Some elder gods although may disagree on the fact that shinnok’s way is the right way and some elder gods may agree to cetrion’s side. Idk he may be revived tho. What I am baffled is how they never really explored the elder gods’ villainy in certain ways (for example, shinnok’s way of death, cetrion’s “everyone must die for peace or in the new timeline, goddess for peace the right way and the other elder gods passive nature).

[@boyoboyo2272]

@@nabilahmed579 Cetrion as “life” and “nature” could still be morally ambiguous, so she could still provide a lot of conflict for our heroes while representing “life”

[@kelldragon9528]

I kind of think that Cetrion has some parallels to Enrico Pucci from JJBA: Stone Ocean. Both are basically good people who end up being enforcers for a narcissistic control freak, who has time based powers and wants to reset the universe in their favor. The difference is that Pucci is actually an interesting character, while Cetrion is at best the Great Value version of him.

[@saidi7975]

Pucci is interesting yes, but a good person he absolutely is not. He's basically Judge Frollo with more discretion.

[@shawerful5209]

​​​@@saidi7975thats the best part about pucci, he is not a good person but he believes that he is. Frollo, know that he is a bad person, he is just love making excuses about it

[@saidi7975]

@@shawerful5209 then Pucci's even worse.

[@saidi7975]

@@shawerful5209 Oh no sorry, I forgot. In Hellfire, Frollo gives his POV... and no, he still sees himself as a good guy despite the abuse and atrocities he commits.

[@gjtrue]

Good review and ideas here. I wish they had expanded upon more with Liu Kang trying to reason with Cetrion and his foes within MK11's plot. I love Cetrion's design and powers but other than that she's just there cuz "new character" har har har. She's an ELDER GOD and a sibling to the infamous fallen Elder God Shinnok. You'd think a lot would/could be done with that. I'm tired of seeing antagonists being made into mere punching bags just to move the plot along. One of my favs *Erron Black* being a good example that annoys me; as he's been getting that shitty treatment since MKX so far. . .🙄

[@TevyaSmolka]

I personally like centurion and honestly I would be all on aboard for her to return someday.

[@mryoshiyoshi451]

It’s baffling how Shinnok wasn’t playable, would of given a lot more for Cetrion since this is her debut.

[@mysticshadowzz8035]

I always said Mk9s ending had Cetrion in it ,I also wondered big Jade is Cetrions daughter just raised as Edianian.

[@connorharnage6697]

Amazing as ever. Would like to see one on either Kotal's followers as a group or maybe on the sons of Argus because, as much as I like the old timeline, I do think introducing them in the final game of that timeline was a mistake. Maybe have Taven wake up during Deadly Alliance due to Raiden searching for new warriors to bolster his ranks

[@ter8905]

this could be more interesting if she was a planned character since we could say that in mk9 of all the elder gods she is the one who tries to protect the land of khan the most, maybe even after helping defeat khan raiden thanks her, and mk10 could tell raiden to be careful with shinock as he is a threat this would make his betrayal of the elder gods more shocking but more meaningful so to speak and it wouldn't feel like a character they made out of nothing though even with everything I love cetrion

[@rowaterwrites2542]

I actually didn’t realize Cetrion was an elder god, I mean I knew she was God but something similar to Raiden (Thunder God) and Fujin (Wind God), like an Elemental Goddess, but even still she’s basically Shinnok but somehow more blander and worse version of the Fallen Elder God

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

Wasted plotential for Kollector next? Assuming that he had any to begin with.

[@Democratic_Industrialism]

I fell in love with her when I seen her she’s hot she’s a goddess she’s powerful yet she’s used as nothing but puppet

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Maybe we could write our own version of Cetrion in our fanfics I did fanfics that take place before the first Mortal Kombat. I call them "Mortal Kombat Origins" by DreamRealiser which is my fanfic username "Mortal Kombat Endurance 1 and 2" Now I'm doing one on "Mortal Kombat Red Dragon" Perhaps while I'll do a Mortal Kombat sequel I might consider adding her, Kotal Kahn, Onāgá, Empress Kreeya, all non-canon characters in there.

[@halorockandreach]

Love this series

[@MattSayYay]

Ah, there's the fabled Cetrion Wasted Plotential episode. So the legends are true.

[@Bucchigirii]

She looks pretty cool i too wish had some memorable fights

[@LimaKiloRomeo]

Cetrion should’ve been the final boss. Her or Geras, not Kronika. She’s too OP for you to even make a story make sense with her involved.

[@Gadreth]

The thing I hate the most about Cetrion is that the characters and the game always says she is Kind and Caring, the oppossite of Shinnok, but she is just another violent murderer, she never ever ever displayed the kindness and benevolence she supposedly haves, never healed, repaired, raised, nor reformed anyone. Cetrion just haves an attack dog role any other villain could have

[@blaze6477]

Exactly. Poor writing.

[@nabilahmed579]

If her character was to be a big hypocrite for her own scheme, then I would be fine with that. However, they never do anything with it

[@ainsleyharriot6060]

okay the edit of Kronika telling Cetrion to off herself was pretty funny

[@EldenRingBuildsArchive]

Strength-wise, they could retcon Raiden being some kind of very important part of the One Being, or some titan with amnesia or something I don’t know haha, maybe push him more to a Zeus-like direction, than Raijin. Hence why Kronika being defeated

[@mysticshadowzz8035]

If she was Jades mother it would boost her status as a character,it might give her some personality.

[@Achieme]

Cetrion is literally the definition of a lapdog

[@eyeh0]

I love her gameplay and wish for her return in another game. That said, she always felt like an asset dump to me. They had all these elemental particles and whatnot made but didn’t have the time or effort to actually make the corresponding ninja on release. So, they just shoved it all into this plant-looking elder god with barely any character. I think I’m just salty she doesn’t have more plant-based moves after Poison Ivy’s appearance in Injustice 2.

[@the-point-bearer6689]

She should have animals as an attack too, and she could be more than just a plant woman, and Poison Ivy is not a plant woman, she's a woman who happens to have partial plant based powers.

[@jankec]

"Such wasted potential" -Sub Zero

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Sub-Zero wasn't wrong in muttering those words.

[@hrawwr]

I agree with every thing said in this video but I do love playing with Cetrion, I mean she have a solid play style with cool animations.

[@austinmeghu]

I know Cetrion and Kronika were terrible characters when I kept forgetting thier names and mixing them up with eachother. They really are just a pair of floaty bad guys with no personality.

[@aerithroses2683]

Add geras who basically a punching bag and serve Kronika

[@xdj2a2]

I find the lack of Centrion Rule 34 disturbing.

[@herbalyzoltan409]

Me too, and I was looking for it..more times than I'D like to admit. There isn't even that much giantess stuff with her to my surprise.

[@lightingthief4482]

I would think with her rocking a stack would have her r34 to oblivion but there isn't as much as I thought.

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

Sub-zero: Frost you won't be alone

[@Takejiro24]

I loved that, despite being presented an imposing Elder God when Raiden seeks her counsel and many of her intros cementing her as a Goddess ("Honor Thy Parents, Mortal!), she still seeks Kronika's approval and even seems to fear her so much so she'll sacrifice herself to her mother without a second thought. It can really make you wonder what the family dynamic between Kronika, Cetrion, and Shinnok (which I'm still salty was never shown) must be like if Kronika has such a strong psychological grip on her thousands years old Elder God daughter. Say the line, Sub-Zero......

[@billmcdermott9647]

It seems like she rules through psychological abuse. I could see either of her children becoming gibberish wrecks at a simple “huh….I’m very disappointed . I ask so little of you”

[@tjlnintendo]

The fucking LTG voice clip gets me every time

[@chimneyimp1486]

the cetrion video recommandation gave me a good chuckle

[@LocaltheStream]

I want this game

[@leonix9882]

What if kronika's (not sure if i spelled it right, don't care either) plan was to lose? It wasnt, but someone could write a story about a time god, who tried to make a perfect world just to fail over and over again, slowly losing the perception of how She would make a future like that and in desperation decides to give her Powers to enemies who had the strenght to oppose her countless times, making them go trought a final struggle to prove their Will, to prove theirs won't break as easily. Again, it fucking wasn't, but With some mental gymnastics someone could write that

[@skyslasher2297]

What pisses me off is that cetrion is proof NRS is aware of subversive character designs you have this beautiful looking nature goddess set up as shinnoks equal in power but opposite in alignment but ultimately she’s a villain So what the hell happened with Sindel Honestly I wish cetrion wasn’t a villain and instead joins Raidan against cronica on behave of the other god like we never got to play as a proper elder god before and help clear the issue of if this time merger concerns them too then why won’t they help

[@jessestone7093]

I just realized that Kronika looks like a fucking finger with gold nail paint.

[@GhostFan-ev4di]

Cetrion being shinnok's sister literally made zero sense and served no true purpose in the series

[@thedarkapex5327]

But it did though, atleast to me she is the light to Shinnok's darkness, she is there to be a balance to Shinnok She's also just a really awesome character imo

[@GhostFan-ev4di]

@@thedarkapex5327 I respect your your opinion but imo there's no need for cetrion to being the opposite to shinnok when we already had raiden for that.

[@GhostFan-ev4di]

@@thedarkapex5327 alright so story wise where was cetrion during the events of mortal kombat 4? In the old timeline,where was she during onaga's return?

[@thedarkapex5327]

@@GhostFan-ev4di I did not play 4, did Onaga threaten the realms? I really don't know

[@thedarkapex5327]

@@GhostFan-ev4di While Raiden is there to keep Shinnok at bay, In my opinion I think having another elder god of equal strength to Shinnok is a equal balance if that makes sense, I love Raiden of course but he is a regular god while Cetrion is an Elder god but this is just my opinion

[@lenmutt]

Positive notes about Centrion. She has a good character design and works well with MK11 customization system. I enjoy her voice actress though Mary Elizabeth McGlynn much like Jennifer Hale as Kronika are both horribly wasted. Yup that's about it.

[@neoxus30]

Would love to see you make it so Geras is more important than a jobber) He does have that other more honorable side to him, but that is never worked upon)

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

MK1 did Geras justice

[@SamCal]

Honestly, out of the 3 new characters, I liked Cetrion the most. Despite being a really misused character, I liked her lore a bit bc of the character dialogues tho. I feel like she should have had a siding with the heroes. Her arcade ending was way better than her canon destiny and I wish that she does more in the future along with the heroes. This new plot you wrote is way better than the original, and I hoped to see Cetrion fighting with the heroes

[@the-point-bearer6689]

Technically 4 newcomers.

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

I do but that's cause of her wasted potential. considering I liked her aesthetic the whole flawed virtue as a result of blind obedience Schick and the fact that she's shinnoks sister are some of the major plusses to her. to see that she was such a badly handled character is why I care because it's unfair considering her place in the mk universe

[@the-point-bearer6689]

She also should’ve been the voice of reason why Elder Gods like herself couldn’t step in to stop Shao Kahn and Shinnok because that’s be playing favorites to the heroes. Yeah, they’re not doing the job as they’re supposed to, but I can see that they are much concerned for the greater omen within all the realms itself…

[@vimtocat1741]

I always had the headcanon that Cetrion's power weakens if she believes that she's not on the moral side which goes hand in hand with Liu Kang becoming powerful enough to kill Kronika because even though she dies and merges with him she's content knowing that her inner turmoil is not only resolved but she also now knows that she's made the right choice.

[@hellothere-ij2ij]

8:34 idk why but cetrion being much shorter than Raiden is kinda cute

[@MattSayYay]

2:27 - When NetherRealm fanboys hear this man's criticisms

[@antione4543]

I remember her character reveal in mk11 was hella hype for me. I still hate her as a character in mk11 but as far as story goes.. well…they wouldve had a better chance of keeping her alive and maybe carrying on Kronikas will in some way for mk12 - rather than having her absorbed or whatever.

[@realmiti6950]

After seeing All of your wasted potential videos on Mk,It made want to create my own version of these stories too.To me,There is a lot of avenues you can do with these characters.

[@Isaac-vq9gw]

I been waiting for this

[@worstspytf2824]

I just really got into MK and finished your 4 your video on MK 11 where you mentioned doing this so this is a nice surprise.

[@WolfFangDance]

Nice video 4thsnake I enjoyed the ideas you have for this series, also question will the wasted potential of Jade and Kotal be made soon? It would be interesting to see your thoughts on them.

[@Xehanort10]

Yeah if they were gonna have her doubt what her mother was doing they should have done something with it instead of immediately going back to blindly obeying Kronika.

[@sirdogmen]

I would really like to se cetrion return. I really think there is great promise to her character.

[@yunus1516]

I like to think that in the original timeline, Cetrion was one who reanimated scorpions' clan during Armageddon (even though she wasn't introduced until the current one)

[@GhostFan-ev4di]

Ok,but explain why cetrion someone who is supposed to be virtuous do something like that?

[@the-point-bearer6689]

She along with the Elder Gods that revive people, but not for flesh and blood, just as the early version of the Revenants.

[@malik2978]

The LTG caught me off guard 🤣🤣

[@AllGamerOfficialChannel]

I like your videos keep up the good work and I like your channel it's awesome. You put effort in your reviews of all Netherrealms games it's awesome. 😎👍😊

[@illuminossentertainment3253]

Even Snake is succumbing to the LTG meme

[@seanfulldark]

Maybe she likes her daughter more than her son? I mean he did get kicked down!

[@thrillseeker5825]

The4thsnake if you pay attention Kronika plan was to restart the timeline and but erase raiden from the new timeline so he could not interfere and so there could be balance between good and evil .

[@halfknight2310]

1:42 I would have found it interesting, if, due to her being a goddess of life, she began to question her mother's plan. seeing all the death that it would cause and asking about it. with kronika saying "they will not die, they will be reborn, it is not death but rebirth." or something to push her daughter. Cetrion agrees, but as time progresses she begins to doubt more. till some event causes her to finally break out of her mother's hold. making her side with fire god lui kang. maybe seeing her mother beat lui kang into the ground, killing him over and over due to time manipulation powers and sees how mad her mother has become. Cetrion then intervenes, saving fire god lui kang, and then sacrificing herself. fusing her power to fire god lui kang (like your idea) and granting him the power he needs to somewhat rival her mother.

[@billmcdermott9647]

I like the idea of Kronika battering and sadistically torturing Liu and that’s what finally makes Cetrion realise she’s insane

[@thelonesage3146]

Lol that picture of her mortal self was not expecting that.

[@glonk1535]

There's also a thing about Cetrion's moveset that always bugged me. She's the opposite of Death God. Why is her moveset all about elements? Why does she have freezing when there're already two cryomancers in the roster? Instead how about we give her more "Power of Life" powers? Tentacles/vines/snakes (depends on variation) that snatch the opponent, some ranged move that invloves summoning of a bird/bat that smashes into opponent, healing move where she touches the grass...

[@the-point-bearer6689]

The power of Nature would work wonders if tackling the fauna aspect. And heck, she could build a creature that could be a surrogate child of Cetrion to keep a sharp tabs on the mortals or something. Keep the flora stuff here and mix it with fauna bits and you get one of the most standout characters ever.

[@sindelscat9336]

Definitely should've been put on this list, I loved the concept but there really wasn't any character to her

[@yunehversomi1458]

Making sense of Kronika’s plans could probably be a video in itself or a collaborative endeavour.

[@Silver_Spectre]

I forgot how much of a joke Cetrion is an elder god being defeated by Jacqui fucking Briggs How come Cetrion kills all the other Elder Gods and nothing happens from it there are no consequences or affects from this, I would think it would affect the realms somewhat

[@eanrollins3443]

I can't wait for the Geras video if/when you do it.