Evony Walkthrough Series: State of Archetype at Keep 30

[@stplutus]

Thank you Miser - am K32 without spending a dime - I followed all your advise no heavy troop building but I grow fast I might be doing K33 by next RSS consumption event, then I can start considering PvP

[@tabby7189]

For self-sufficiency, shouldn't you produce a lot more ore and then switch out for quarries at k35? By that point the costs to get the new tiles upgraded are tiny. Also, why not do the general fragment collection from relics k20-27 so that before the switch to resource gathering between k27-30 most of the relic work is done?

[@honeriley]

2mins50s: If you are joining rallies you should have the courage horn selected. The only justice horn that applies to a boss rally is that of the rally leader. It is they who determine the speed of the march to the monster. March speed back from monsters (important for getting back and joining the next rally) is determined by your courage horn.

[@The_Miser]

I disagree. This is true on the march to the boss but it is not true on the return march. Courage horns will save you seconds marching to players in your hive which is irrelevant because you still have to wait for the rally to launch. Justice horn can save minutes per return march in comparison.

[@s.b.9636]

As I was always wondering about this as well I just tested it in game. Basically the miser is right as apparently the justice horn also counts for the way back. It saved me a few more seconds than the courage crystal on my way back, both horns being at the same monarch gear level.

[@honeriley]

@@The_Miser Awesome. Very happy to be wrong about that. Love the great content.

[@crawdady2837]

Ore is my big problem when I try and make troops it takes a lot of ore not as much of the other stuff so I had 10 farms in farms I bumped 2 of those down to make more oar because once you start making T11, T12 mounted it takes sit takes 6 million ore every time to make 920 mounted. I do alot of boss hunting

[@cpfallingpixelbentley3185]

awesome content!

[@santosjohny]

Your piles of blue material chests 🤯🤯🤯 I WANT OPENNN 😂

[@s.b.9636]

I am actually wondering whether upgrading in city rss spots are still a good idea due to the following logic: Upgrading a lev 28 to 29 til costs around 75m rss of all 3 rss needed together. I gain 2.000/h. I maxed in City production research. So I get like 12.000 more due to buffs including shazar on the Wall and the 24h 100% buff. So 14.000/h total increase. This leads to 336.000 / day more rss. Dividing 75m by that gives roughly 220 days. So basically the invest only starts to turn into extra rss earned after those 220 days. Considering lev 29 to 30 being more expensive but also only gaining 2.000 rss base production the time will further increase. Thus I feel it might not be too great an invest or am I wrong?

[@Prolegomena1781]

Certainly depends how longterm you are thinking, but the earlier you max the in-city rss spots the more resources you will get from that either way. If you dont plan to play that long then, yea, it wouldnt pay off. Otherwise be as fast as possible with maxing.

[@ricardodrumond6418]

Could you explain why the use of the word of “Archetype? Thanks.

[@Prolegomena1781]

He refers to it as the full resources build/growth only city development. So it's only about resource maximization and keep upgrade speed. No focus on pvp or pvm(except baibars joining rallies and eventually training lvl1 troops to gather resources) at all until you reach your desired keep level.

[@The_Miser]

I see archetype as a growth strategy from which almost any player can use to create the foundation of their kingdom before they start going off on tangents. In that way, archetype is like the very basic exemplar of a growing account. In that way, I thought naming it archetype would be a pretty good fit.

[@ricardodrumond6418]

@@The_Miser I was just wandering about the word. Thank you for responding. By the way, your channel is very informative!

[@DZ07312]

Hello 😊 which server are you on?

[@The_Miser]

82

[@kingofdark3906]

Hey sir is it possible to upgrade from keep 1 to keep 30 in 60days?

[@kingofdark3906]

it's because i need to be keep 30 in 60days so i ll get a reward in another game

[@The_Miser]

Possible yes if in an active alliance.

[@pashtet2001]

@@The_Miser possible without money, to keep from 26 to 30 castle in 60 days!?

[@animalblacksempire8045]

FRENCH SUBTITLES PLEASE

[@obiron2099]

At this point in the game, your keep is basically useless. Unless your server is a couple days old. It's gonna take a few grand to have a keep that can compete in your own server let alone svs. Best advice, delete this game from your phone and do something that isn't pay to win. Something that actually rewards the time you spend playing the game

[@The_Miser]

Lol. Such an apt translation. I really feel this sentiment, and I can't blame you for seeing it this way. I feel this quite often as well, especially being stuck at 35 for an eternity as the game is moving even further away from being playable by F2P players. I'll be sticking around, though. I'm an optimist, so I believe that eventually the devs will wake up and do what's best for the game rather than what's best for their wallets.

[@cuoresportivo12]

@@The_Miser hahaha don't be naive! Game is made for them to get richer not for us to enjoy, and mobile games are something most terrible ever!!!