The Greediest Aliens in the Galaxy...

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OrangeRiver

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@BerryTheBnnuy
@BerryTheBnnuy 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The Ferengi are not the greediest aliens in the galaxy. The Borg are. They want everything, and they're too cheap to pay for it.
@biblegirl
@biblegirl 7 ай бұрын
Fair
@cvasirocket1401
@cvasirocket1401 7 ай бұрын
I see your point, but greed is more of a feeling or drive , possibly goal but far fetched to call it a goal. The Borg is way different.
@BerryTheBnnuy
@BerryTheBnnuy 7 ай бұрын
@@cvasirocket1401 I get that you're trying to inject nuance, but I don't see the nuance mentioned. Not saying it's not there, just not seeing it as you've described it
@yomilkers8133
@yomilkers8133 6 ай бұрын
Jews are
@mrjoe5292
@mrjoe5292 3 ай бұрын
Well, if this isn't just a joke then I'd say that the borg don't want everything. In fact they'll outright ignore any species or technology they deem inferior, anything they think won't improve their collective. Fundamentally the borg's drive isn't to amass wealth or material. It's to achieve their idea of perfection. They would likely ignore anything considered rare or valuable by other species if they had no practical use for it.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Ferengi didn't even develop warp drive. They bought it :) Which is brilliant. It's so Ferengi to do that.
@joshythehand2960
@joshythehand2960 Жыл бұрын
But they did build the coolest ships around. I love their designs.. I would choose a ferengi runabout as my personal ship
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Жыл бұрын
@@joshythehand2960 Ferengi ingenuity!
@booyadee3148
@booyadee3148 3 жыл бұрын
the big ferengi lobes could also be an adaptation so they dont get rain in their eyes
@rando.name.
@rando.name. 3 жыл бұрын
Ferengis are one of the best parts of DS9 hands down. How often do we get to witness the cultural evolution of a species throughout any of the Star Trek series.
@Tvirus12
@Tvirus12 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThommyofThennand their progress is all due to moogie's scheming
@ahdnoh
@ahdnoh 3 жыл бұрын
Gigantic Ferengi codpiece. This seems like one of those facts The Lower Decks would poke fun at.
@singletona082
@singletona082 3 жыл бұрын
Froget where i read it but Quark's actor was one of the original Ferrangi and felt he had to redeem the race from the rather laughable portrayal he'd set them up with. And swapping from furs to waistcoats and patterned clothe helped with the character design (bring to mind that gilded age Capitalist that the ferrangi are trying to invoke) but quark as a character went a long way to giving us a portrayal now that the ferrangi had some interactions under its belt with the federation and other powers. Then Rom and Nog. Rom showing what someone who is clearly gifted but culturally inept is like, and then grows when given another path, and Nog.... taking the best aspects of Ferrangi culture and applying them to the federation, showing just what you can get from a culture of tenacious horse traders when you expand the concept of 'profit' past latinum. Seriously Nog was amazing and I am sad the actor is gone from us.
@bpdmf2798
@bpdmf2798 Жыл бұрын
Nog was great. You're right about the expansion of the definition of profit for him. Very smart, very tenacious, great hearing, great combination. Be made a lot of early Jake scenes much better, I think that's why they expanded his role.
@kylegerhart4122
@kylegerhart4122 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you overlooked this due to the comprehensive and quality nature of your content, however the Ferengi have totally been to the Delta Quadrant! It was 24th Century, so perhaps not the first contact that gave them such a low designation, but they definitely have! Two Ferengi featured in a Next Gen episode get trapped there after a wormhole collapses, and years later the crew of Voyager encounters them on a planet they've taken over by convincing the locals they are gods :)
@kylegerhart4122
@kylegerhart4122 3 жыл бұрын
TNG: The Price and VOY: False Profits!
@plopytop
@plopytop Жыл бұрын
"the crew of Voyager encounters them", you mean "a rogue federation captain attempting to enforce federation law on non federation members well outside of federation territory against the best interest of her crew". I know Voyager gets a bad rep, but I actually think it gets too much hate. However this episode just boils my piss!
@JoshuaKevinPerry
@JoshuaKevinPerry Жыл бұрын
@@sabin97 It's billions, as a Muslim we celebrate the penultimate prophet as well as Muhammad.
@seastnanseastnan7765
@seastnanseastnan7765 Жыл бұрын
@@sabin97 Islam is the worship of the Sumerian Moon God NANNAR SIN who was a son of ENLIL, the tyrannical individual who became known as Yahweh that the jews specifically worshipped after they moved on from their worship of the child sacrifice god Baal.
@seastnanseastnan7765
@seastnanseastnan7765 Жыл бұрын
@@sabin97 Sorry, when you went immediately racial on me I lost interest in the rest of what you had to say. I have no patience with racists and detest them. However I did read what you wrote but you have a lot of it wrong. I can see you are writing from an elitist muslim/arabist point of view but your immediate racism has put me off discussing things further with you. I’ll leave it there.
@thomashill6347
@thomashill6347 3 жыл бұрын
I did find the Ferengi to be very well done as a species, DS9 was so well written and Directed it flush out all the interesting things about them ALL the different actors brought such life to them. Thanks for sharing your research on this race.
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 2 жыл бұрын
People keep saying TNG did the Ferengi dirty, but I disagree. In TNG it was how the Ferengi were seen, in DS9 it was how they really were. Had TNG done a better job with them DS9 would have been slightly more constricted in what they could do. The Ferengi was almost a blank slate, which was great.
@thomashill6347
@thomashill6347 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oonagh72 Agree
@MrPoster42
@MrPoster42 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oonagh72 There are some cringe moments especially in episodes with Quark's mom. Overall though the Ferengi on DS9 were handled expectionally well. Brunt was always fun. Quark & Odo were fantastic. Rom & Nog has great character arcs. And getting Wallace Shawn as Zek is a treat.
@krazilegs1990
@krazilegs1990 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Humon
@dancing_odie
@dancing_odie Жыл бұрын
I wish we had whole list for the Rules of Aquisition. Important life advice.
@natwalpole2263
@natwalpole2263 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think we should believe Quark (I think it was Quark) when he says that Ferengi didn't have slavery or commit genocide, there was an episode where Quark almost sold weapons to someone attempting to commit genocide with the help of his arms dealing cousin. I think the simplest explanation is just that Quark is a liar
@jessiealexander6190
@jessiealexander6190 3 жыл бұрын
today we even have to struggle against revisionist history for many reasons. Could be something similar
@ethanwall2443
@ethanwall2443 3 жыл бұрын
Well if we get into technicality (which makes sense for ferengi) quark wasn't the one commiting genocide he was just enabling it
@Xylarxcode
@Xylarxcode 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanwall2443 Pretty much this. Their own species doesn't commit genocides. But if other species are committing it and there's profit in it for the Ferengi, they may disagree with how the merchandise will be used, but if the profit for them is big enough, they won't care too much. What the buyers do with their merchandise once they have it is none of the Ferengi's concern. If profit was made, then their goal has been achieved. The more reprehensible the act, the bigger the profit would need to be for them to justify it, but if the paycheck is big enough, they'll do it. To further go into this, there is a conversation between Quark and... I think it was Nog, where Nog (or whoever it was) mentions that the humans used to irradiate their own planet, which seemingly horrifies both Quark and Nog. This would imply that the Ferengi may be a backstabbing, underhanded and selfserving species, but they do have limits to how cruel they are willing to be, particularly to their own kind. It's also possible that they realize that there is no long term profit to be made from people who are about to die of radiation poisoning and if it's bad enough to affect their entire planet and potentially wipe out their entire species, well... you can't make profit if you're dead is one of their rules of acquisition, if I'm not mistaken. The Ferengi do seem to disdain murder on a massive scale, most likely because you can't do business with people that are dead.
@RezValla
@RezValla Жыл бұрын
They have good PR
@aldrinmilespartosa1578
@aldrinmilespartosa1578 Жыл бұрын
Nog too said it, so it's probably true.
@ryanhau1073
@ryanhau1073 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many times Roddenberry was told "Sir this is a Wendy's"
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, it had to have been A LOT 😂. Just like when he wanted Troi to have three breasts.
@claytonberg721
@claytonberg721 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Roddenberry is not alone. Even today we now have the two dicked klingon.
@nevillelongbottom7687
@nevillelongbottom7687 2 жыл бұрын
why?
@Joedirt3349
@Joedirt3349 2 жыл бұрын
Ah-nold, baby! total recall
@Ferdinand208
@Ferdinand208 3 жыл бұрын
8:42 despite their long practice of capitalism the Ferengi notably avoided slavery. Despite? You can't have slavery in capitalism because you are free to chose any type of work. Slavery is against capitalism. I think the person that came up with the Ferengi knew that. And the grand nagus is based on Warren Buffet.
@kylegerhart4122
@kylegerhart4122 3 жыл бұрын
Are you implying that the sugar plantations founded in the Caribbean during the 17th Century were not Capitalist? Or that Antebellum America was not? If so, I'd love to hear your theory on how they were not. As it stands, your argument echoes Marxists waxing on about how "THAT wasn't Communism!"
@marcomirhayes7121
@marcomirhayes7121 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. As someone with Frankish ancestry this was really cool to learn about, as Ferengi are one of my favorite races (despite their flaws).
@FablestoneSeries
@FablestoneSeries Жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching DS9 and I feel like you could do an entire episode on just the Grand Nagus alone. He is one of their best written characters.
@Bejaardenbus
@Bejaardenbus Жыл бұрын
No idea why people would complain about Ferengi-centric episodes, they're great.
@lifeinthevoid1595
@lifeinthevoid1595 3 жыл бұрын
"... wasn't really sure what I had to add..." *proceeds with the most interesting and informative discussion on Ferengi I have ever heard* 🤔 Noting I can never get enough Star Trek discussions and enjoy hearing each new view so just cos people have talked about a topic before shouldn't put you off adding your perspective (exception to the enjoyment are the channels that just incoherently rage scream about canon without thoughtful analysis)
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I always try to uncover what makes a species biologically and historically unique.
@vanguze
@vanguze Жыл бұрын
After deep space nine, the ferengi became my favorite species. They are very complex and I love how deeply emotional they can be
@zaxxon4
@zaxxon4 2 жыл бұрын
Ferengi is the Ethiopian word for foreigner. The Ethiopian word for king is Negus. Dabo is a type of Ethiopian bread. I’m pretty sure that is the language they were borrowing from.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 2 жыл бұрын
This all sounds very interesting but for the life of me, I have no way of verifying if it's remotely true...starting with the fact that "Ethiopian" isn't a language :/
@zaxxon4
@zaxxon4 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Amharic is the most common one in the country, as it is used by the government and spoken as first or second language by virtually all Ethiopians.
@comentedonakeyboard
@comentedonakeyboard 3 жыл бұрын
Alien? Deep down everyone is a Ferengi 👐
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 3 жыл бұрын
the more i learn about Roddenberry the more i am glad he had less and less involvement in trek before his death
@nevillelongbottom7687
@nevillelongbottom7687 2 жыл бұрын
why?
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
He had some weird ideas all right. But all we're getting without him is bad war fanfiction
@gtothereal
@gtothereal Жыл бұрын
Star Trek has only gotten worse without him and he made the damn thing. You loco?
@oldylad
@oldylad 2 ай бұрын
His work was far better than anything we’ve gotten after enterprise. The series was slowly shifting after his death, and the result is where we are now. The “sex positions” stuff literally was used as well in ds9 with the ear rubbing stuff. You’re one of those fans huh?
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Ferengi will become one of the dominant players in the galaxy in coming millennia, after the waning of the Federation's influence, or will the Federation always be the top dog in the long run? Gimme your thoughts below! P.S. If you have just signed up to become a patron or member and your name wasn't in the credits, you'll be featured in the next video!
@jeffhallam2004
@jeffhallam2004 3 жыл бұрын
In commerce and trade yes!
@matthew944
@matthew944 3 жыл бұрын
Hey have you ever made a video about the Binars or the planet Binus? I'd be interested in knowing more about the history of progression of that planet. How they became symbiotic with their supercomputer 🔭
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthew944 The Bynars have always interested me as well! Lots of people have wanted me to talk about some of the other cybernetic species in Star Trek besides the Borg--I'll have to do some more research on that.
@richx5064
@richx5064 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine that the Ferengi will be like the US after WW2. After WW2, most of the world was digging out of the ashes of the war. But American farms and factories were untouched. As a result, for a good long time, America exported product to the rest of the world which made America rich and an economic superpower. The same can be said of the Ferengi. They stayed out of the Dominion War. After such a draining war, the Alpha Quadrant has to rebuild. Which puts the Ferengi in a unique position to exploit the situation. Like America, they can become an economic superpower.
@chrlpolk
@chrlpolk 2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across crude asshats on the Internet commenting that the Ferengi seem to utilize the racist tropes and stereotypes of the Jewish. Never thought of it like that, but after it was pointed out, I kind of hate that I enjoyed the antics so much and I was hoping you could dispel any suspicion that it was an intentional choice.
@bobross4886
@bobross4886 3 жыл бұрын
Funnest species in Star Trek!
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
i’m surprised that you didn’t mention the marauders and agencies with ships that protected the Ferengi Alliance and enforced the authorities’ will…those are private military personnel hired to enforce the will of their employers and were strong enough to disable and takeover the best Federation ship until the anti-Borg ships came into service
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 3 жыл бұрын
Lust fades, but Greed is eternal.
@ns0557212
@ns0557212 3 жыл бұрын
Remember to pay your debts though for the great counter!
@europarise2316
@europarise2316 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a jewish proverb?
@laserprop
@laserprop 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me if someone has already made this point, but "Ferengi" is a derogatory term in the Pashto and Urdu languages for a western white person; equivalent epithets would be "Honky" or "Whitey." I guess the Star Trek writers were having an inside joke.
@TentaclePentacle
@TentaclePentacle 2 жыл бұрын
Well originally the ferengi what's said to be yankee traders, so I guess that fits.
@ObservantPiratePlus
@ObservantPiratePlus 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the OrangeRiver river in your logo black, and only the surrounding area orange, instead of the inverse? Curious minds want to know.
@michaelhannell4083
@michaelhannell4083 2 жыл бұрын
I love playing as the ferengi in star trek ascendency
@BobDiaz123
@BobDiaz123 2 жыл бұрын
After Deep Space 9, I wished there was a series called Ferengi Trek, where Quark, Rom, and a few others would explore space in search of great profits. In each episode Quark would try to generate a deal that would expand their profits, but everything would go south on them and in the end they'd be lucky to escape with their lives and a very minor profit if any. I could picture Quark's opening words at the start of every episode, "Space, the final exploitation. These are the voyages of the starship Greed, its mission to maximize income from deals between easily swindled races, to seek out new wealth, and maximize profits!!!
@SSJKamui
@SSJKamui 2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek meets Duck Tales
@libtardiacitizen
@libtardiacitizen Жыл бұрын
American Foreign Policy in a nutshell
@thehermitman822
@thehermitman822 Жыл бұрын
"To greedily go where lesser gold pressed latinum seekers have gone before."
@dacisky
@dacisky Жыл бұрын
I've wished the same thing,many times...There is so much to unpack with the I Ferengi. I always enjoyed the DS9 episodes featuring them the most.
@histguy101
@histguy101 7 ай бұрын
People could barely tolerate 1 or 2 ferengi episodes per season. No way would a ferengi series work
@MRptwrench
@MRptwrench Жыл бұрын
This channel, more than any other media, has spurred on my interest in all things Trek.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier 3 жыл бұрын
Ferengi are my favorite species in Star Trek.
@ClintSprayberry
@ClintSprayberry 3 жыл бұрын
Another homerun dude! As always, in addition to the impressive Star Trek knowledge on display, really dig: the science, history, and linguistics knowledge you worked into the script as a background intellect flex 💪 Please keep doing what you're doing!
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Clint!
@jeffhallam2004
@jeffhallam2004 3 жыл бұрын
He’s very good!!!
@NuTonesForever
@NuTonesForever 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree fantastic channel.
@ClintSprayberry
@ClintSprayberry 3 жыл бұрын
@@NuTonesForever RIGHT?! I was stunned to see he has videos going back for years. Like dude is awesome, why hadn't KZbin suggested his channel to me years ago?
@mikecobalt7005
@mikecobalt7005 2 жыл бұрын
:) Very good. Quite an Impact yes, Rom, Nog like many others were never intended to be consistent characters and more like recurring or even temporary. It was the great writing and DS9's ability to make every character shine that elevated those two to be necessary characters each with their own unique qualities. "178 words for rain on Ferenginar and not even one for crisp" :).
@jessemay1547
@jessemay1547 2 жыл бұрын
Ferengi Sex Positions is my new band name.
@eastlynburkholder3559
@eastlynburkholder3559 3 жыл бұрын
The Feringi language info you provided was interesting.
@darinbauer8122
@darinbauer8122 3 жыл бұрын
I think Orange River has the lobes.
@GeneMoore-m2f
@GeneMoore-m2f 7 ай бұрын
I love your tutorial style. It's soothing but not boring. Thanks
@caedrewan
@caedrewan 2 жыл бұрын
catching up on more older videos - live long and prosper
@antwan1357
@antwan1357 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just got done watching a TNG episode of freelancer Ferengi who stole two Klingon Birds of Prey , and stole a Galaxy Class Starship. Sometimes freelancer Ferengi are more interesting then Ferengi Alliance Ferengi as they are real pirates that are entertaining to watch.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
those were the true antagonist that Gene hoped for, the ones with the cool looking ships(i love them more than Klingon and Romulan ships). and they weren’t easy to beat, they went toe to toe with the Federation’s best ship and damn near won!
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 2 жыл бұрын
always viewed the Ferengi to have been much less centralized and ordered than they would like have us believe in their stories... My thought was that the Grand-Nagus system, and organized banking, were fairly recent things to permeate the Ferengi society with a sort of monolithic patriarchal structure... they have "written" a history for themselves, but my feeling it was more a myth than any real thing... my own feeling was, that whilst Ferenginar was maybe under the Nagus, the main home of the species was a nomadic existence, traversing on ships of other's designs through space, gypsy/nomadic merchant men, with occasional dips into piracy, and much secretive trade & contraband-running between the galactic empires... they were not violent like the Orion's alliance... more caravanners of the desert, a species of space nomads... indeed, to me, Ferenginar made more sense then as a kind of Barbuda in the depths of space, rich, and opulent, but also small and harsh of a planet in climate....
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 2 жыл бұрын
The Ferengi could be an offshoot of the Dopterians, having evolved/engineered themselves in response to the conditions on Ferenginar. The Rules of Acquisition could have been what pulled the Ferengi out of a forgotten Dark Age.
@moreonvalleyproductions9906
@moreonvalleyproductions9906 2 жыл бұрын
Or simply they have a longer period of space expansion, warp was acquired around the 21st century but the could have been using other means of travel like the bajoran solar ships or sub warp colony ships. That may also explain the relatively small area the alliance covers.
@TheSarcMark
@TheSarcMark 2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell do people keep trying to make the Federation Socialist or Communist? Have any of you looked up the definition of each? They only thing overtly stated about its economy is that it does use money. Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism are primarily concerned with the production and ownership of property and resources. Star Trek never says whether property is individual (capitalism), government (socialism), or commonly owed (communism). If anything its economy is none of those given the invention of replecators.
@nolan412
@nolan412 3 жыл бұрын
Why does a Ferengi roofer conspiring to make it always rain sound likely?
@vtec1988
@vtec1988 2 жыл бұрын
You're killing it man. Great content!
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Some humans eat some bugs as well. But one wouldn't eat a random strange bug. Only specific ones. Like crickets in garlic oil are quite tasty. A delicacy in certain parts of Europe. They kinda taste like nuts. Not that different from certain seafoods. Frogs are also awesome. As is blood sausage. These food creep a lot of people out but they don't realize what they're missing These are considered delicacies in Western and Southern Europa. Frog is quite popular in France and Belgium
@_Omega_Weapon
@_Omega_Weapon Жыл бұрын
The Ferengi didn't avoid slavery. They enslaved their females. When this started is unknown but it's definitely the case up until Ishka convinced Zek to start phasing it out and was probably completely abolished when Rom became Grand Nagus.
@SnarkNSass
@SnarkNSass 3 жыл бұрын
I had you and Ric in my notifications!😳 But Ric knows I love him😁 and, to me, you're new and needed me more.😄😂 Great job as usual. I think Ferengi may be my favorite "aliens" on ST. 🖖🏻💚🌟
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Ric is a fantastic creator! I appreciate the support!
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 3 жыл бұрын
As the Next Generation episode, Suspicions, tells us, at least some Ferengi are interested in pure science.
@paulleckner8235
@paulleckner8235 3 жыл бұрын
Naug, son of Rom made the cultural leap and enlisted in Star Fleet Academy. Bravery earned him the rank of lieutenant.
@europarise2316
@europarise2316 2 жыл бұрын
For profit
@ns0557212
@ns0557212 3 жыл бұрын
I can totally see how Ferengis were originally gonna be Bat like and went from that to a bird and then the Phoenix eventually as their symbol. That is so cool! Now we just gotta figure out if they could fly!
@joshythehand2960
@joshythehand2960 Жыл бұрын
You must remember.. although omnivores.. for most of human development out protein intake was insects. If we came across a kill and scavenged it. .. that was great.. but for the first million Years, 99% of our animal protein intake was insects.. which actually have 5 times the protein per pound. It's most likely what supercharged brain growth until we mastered fire and were able to pre digest the meat through cooking and get more.out of it. Bats are actually the most successful mammals in the world as far as diversity, locations, population
@Nunya_Bidness_53
@Nunya_Bidness_53 2 жыл бұрын
I like that they are genuinely alien, unlike too many ST aliens who are humans with different foreheads.
@fiveyearmission9987
@fiveyearmission9987 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't pre-warp space travel help explain the Dopterian-Ferengi connection and the small number of systems in Ferengi space? I could see the systems they hold as being ancient colonies established before warp drive was acquired. Having globalized early I could see them having basic space travel ability for a very long time. Perhaps early monopolies held their culture in a sort of stasis for thousands of years which held back their expansion and technological explosion until the Breen showed up with Warp drive resulting in a culture disinterested in territorial expansion but very hungry to break free of millenia old monopolies and establishment of new business opportunities offworld. The Dopterians could be as you speculate a result of genetic engineering that was done over the course of millennia rather than a few centuries making their radically different appearances more believable.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, this is a well thought out explanation. Well done. We often tend to overlook pre-warp space travel in a lot of Trek societies-- just because humans went from Yuri Gagarin to Zefram Cochrane in just over a century doesn't mean other species would do it that quickly.
@fiveyearmission9987
@fiveyearmission9987 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Thanks! Yeah, I feel like well-established pre-warp spacefarers are underutilized in the franchise. Could be interesting in fleshing out lore for existing species and yet to be introduced ones, could provide an interesting angle for prime directive episodes.
@MatthewCaunsfield
@MatthewCaunsfield 3 жыл бұрын
Some of those initial ideas about the Ferengi are just pure Roddenberry fanfic. I think you overlooked the size of their...codpieces that GR wanted too 😂
@mcorrade
@mcorrade 3 жыл бұрын
man this is a great channel and your a great speaker/explainer of Trek! As someone who LOVE 's Star Trek I appreciate your insight.
@Jakob.Hamburg
@Jakob.Hamburg Жыл бұрын
Though the ferengi are not my favorite, this was still interesting. TY for the video.
@hemaccabe4292
@hemaccabe4292 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks. I always felt we got flashes of Ferengi greatness, like when we see Nog get the supplies Chief O'Brien needed for repairs. Unfortunately, the Ferengi spent so much time being the butt of comedy relief and suffering from writer's anti-capitalist prejudice that it doesn't shine through much. I would expect the Ferengi to be very effective at defending themselves and their territory as they are experts at marshalling resources and judging probabilities in ways the Federation, Star Fleet and other surrounding powers could not hope to match. I prefer to see the shift in policies we see at the end of DS9 reflects an ongoing balance in Ferengi society between a fixation on personal wealth at all costs and a need for functional public institutions to increase wealth for all. Which is not to say things like welfare, but rather along the lines of, if you don't have functioning courts, you can't have contracts, no contracts and everyone is poorer. BTW, don't forget the reference to Ferengi in ST: Enterprise.
@SnarkNSass
@SnarkNSass 2 жыл бұрын
I'm scrolling back through your videos looking for one I haven't seen.... Rewatching this one on my way.😁🖖🏻
@WildStar2002
@WildStar2002 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is true (or canon) but I heard once that there is an old Ferengi saying, "Only a Klingon would fart in an airlock." 💩
@BTScriviner
@BTScriviner 2 жыл бұрын
Another home run video. Love your work. 👍
@eastlynburkholder3559
@eastlynburkholder3559 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the Feeingi ruling as rhe Roman's did, keeping out of ethnic and political conflicts and favoring any one who does not disturb the public peace and who pays taxes promptly. And some people pregered Roman rules rather than being ruler by their own people it is sometimes said. I can see them as managers as a town might hire professional management but on a much larger scale.
@randyallison3757
@randyallison3757 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember hearing that the Ferengis bought warp technology from another race. Don't remember what episode said that, but it had to be part of DS9.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 2 жыл бұрын
I think it came from a non-canon story that they purchased warp drive from the Breen
@brandonramdin262
@brandonramdin262 10 ай бұрын
If you think about it,the Ferengi are actually one of the most moral people on Trek. We see that they have a (literally) religious dedication to profit,thereby equating profit with moral good. This is even more admirable when Ferengi like Quark are immersed in cultures that despise his values while he still upholds them. The fact that they avoided slavery and willngly pay to enter another's home proves that they respect other Ferengi (males) as profit earners,and willingly do above board business with them. The fact that they don't steal outright (except for the 1st appearance) and instead negotiate for what they want also goes to show their commitment, not necessarily to profit itself, but business and the Great Material Continuum. EDIT: Their moral and respectful treatment doesn't extend to other species,only within the Ferengi: 'A contract is a contract is a contract, but only between Ferengi!'
@jeffhallam2004
@jeffhallam2004 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!!!!
@jaqenhghar2970
@jaqenhghar2970 3 жыл бұрын
0:17 - I have to disagree that the Federation is by any means similar to the ideologies of our Earth's Socialism. I mean, the Federation promotes personal freedom, has a reasonably benevolent government, and private enterprise is allowed. If anything, it's something we can't even comprehend with today's mindset.
@kylegerhart4122
@kylegerhart4122 3 жыл бұрын
You're describing Social Democracy in an era when technology has liberated us from resource scarcity.
@scod9746
@scod9746 2 жыл бұрын
True Socialism according to many Marxists indeed "promotes personal freedom, has a reasonably benevolent government (yes includes democracy), and private enterprise is allowed." Just as Capitalism according to Adam Smith, Greenspan and the Wolf of Wall Street is great and all that jazz, even though the way we do Capitalism it is basically Socialism for the rich, and Communism for the military.
@scottmcneely1927
@scottmcneely1927 2 жыл бұрын
Current European governments like those of Sweden, Finland, or Denmark would be the closest anology to the Federation.
@JoseMolina-ij3xx
@JoseMolina-ij3xx Жыл бұрын
I always got confused when I saw Ferrengi from Star Trek, because I was more familiar with the Ferrengi of a BBS game known as Tradewars 2002. The similarities of both Ferrengi are uncanny. However, the Ferrengi of Tradewars was violent and scary and to be avoided. Ferrengi of Star Trek acted more like regular profit based traders of Tradewars.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
I think they could be named whatever the sysop wanted, he just happened to name them that :)
@while.coyote
@while.coyote 3 жыл бұрын
Ferringi having giant dongs needs to be canon.
@nathanieldaiken1064
@nathanieldaiken1064 2 жыл бұрын
It is canon! The Great Bird of the Galaxy* decreed it! *(Gene Roddenberry)
@timmcdraw7568
@timmcdraw7568 3 ай бұрын
One of the reasons it took me so long to give DS9 a chance was that i was so disinterested in the Ferengi. I thought they were dumb, and their greed made them so without depth to me, like a villain written for children. Plus i thought they looked ridiculous. Then i finally decided to watch DS9. I can hardly believe how invested i am in the ferengi, both the individual ferengi and the macro ferengi people. May they live long and prosper culturally.
@tlac4120
@tlac4120 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this well researched and presented video. Looking forward to see more like this! What about a video about lesser known species? Background species resident at DS9 we know little about. Surely not enough to fill one episode for each of them. But a nice compilation to highlight them and the wide variety of species in Star Trek.
@JemHadar422
@JemHadar422 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to read the fine print
@JohnBelluci
@JohnBelluci 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, can leave without the intro
@eastlynburkholder3559
@eastlynburkholder3559 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to almost always raing on the Feringi home planet.
@leftygurl
@leftygurl 3 жыл бұрын
the thing i want to know most about the ferengi are what the other words they have for rain are outside of “glebbening”
@DoctorRobertNeville
@DoctorRobertNeville 3 жыл бұрын
I heard one word for rain was "Podrushing". I'm not sure if the correct spelling.
@dragoninthewest1
@dragoninthewest1 2 жыл бұрын
13:10 another possibility is they were a Ferengi pre-wrap colony. I am 99% sure they had achieved spaceflight before encountering the Breen. Perhaps an STL fleet using an equivalent to The Expanse's Epstein Drive, a Ferengi group settled a world 2k years ago. Without warp drive or FTL communication, they diverged.
@joshythehand2960
@joshythehand2960 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would do a KZbin series specifically on the climate and geography of the planets in trek. I had a book in 1990 that was great.. worlds of the federation. It's allies. Neutral planets and enemies. It's the only thing I've see that gives detailed descriptions.of the topography of the planets themselves and how it effected the races from there.. for instance.. the klingon home world was very rocky with small forests scrabble forests.. but had very little fresh water.. just a few very salty seas. Because of lack of potable water, very few plants grew which meant almost no herbivores.. so every animal in the planet , including klinhons,, were derived from carnivorous hunters.. everything there hunted each other.. and this is why the klingons have such a warrior bearing naturally.
@scottmcneely1927
@scottmcneely1927 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be the Ferengi eat bugs because that's all there is? We also know it always rains on Ferenginar. It is likely their hundreds of years of unmitigated capitalism have resulted in ecological devastation. Which Federation technology could fix with their permission. And hmmm. Didn't Rom become Grand Nagus in the last EP of DS9? He wanted to change things Could be a script in there somewhere.
@joeymangrum4883
@joeymangrum4883 3 жыл бұрын
Ferengi are awesome
@lostaggie66-canderson17
@lostaggie66-canderson17 2 жыл бұрын
But didn't Nog like crayfish and Mr Cisco's Cajun recipes and cuisine
@dollydog509
@dollydog509 2 жыл бұрын
Ferengi....wicked but want more really. As Always love 💘 u...so.glad I found u. Only watched trek culture b 4. Kate massive treky Xxxxxxx
@twitchew
@twitchew Жыл бұрын
Dopterian & Kobheerian - those pesky preservers could be a reasonable option for similarities.
@Ian_sothejokeworks
@Ian_sothejokeworks Жыл бұрын
Do we have any evidence at all that the Borg species numbering system is based on the order in which they were encountered?
@Numba003
@Numba003 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who hasn’t watched DS9, I didn’t know they were insectivores lol! Does that pop up in any of their other appearances? DS9 is the only old Trek series I’ve not gotten to yet. I do enjoy the Ferengi and will look forward to getting to know them better. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver 3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember how much their diet is discussed in other shows (perhaps it is in TNG). DS9's my favorite Trek show, so I hope you enjoy it!
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 3 жыл бұрын
You've watched all but DS9? Honestly that's probably the best way to go about it, it would make the others so much less disappointing.
@e-cuauhtemoc
@e-cuauhtemoc 2 жыл бұрын
GREED IS GOOD.
@mikehess4494
@mikehess4494 2 жыл бұрын
Would of been great to end it on a Ferengi saying rather than a Vulcan saying.
@uncledubpowermetal
@uncledubpowermetal Жыл бұрын
Ah man, I love the Ferengi! I think they're one of the whole points of Star Trek, especially in DS9; being able to accept people for who they are and understand that their culture is not our culture. What might be abhorrent to us is revered and special to another culture(I.e. Digging up the dead every year, eating certain types of animals, certain societal practices)
@kylesells8579
@kylesells8579 2 жыл бұрын
the conditions on Ferngiuar have existed for millions of years
@LinguarumFautor
@LinguarumFautor 11 ай бұрын
The Ferengi were my favorite alien species on DS9. I’ve wondered if some of the Ferengi “alphabet” does not represent consonants or vowels, but economic terms.
@patrickperalta59
@patrickperalta59 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the Ferengi's first appearance...in Next Generation.
@scottbarth7155
@scottbarth7155 2 жыл бұрын
I don't under how people can think the federation didn't have money or were socialists. Picard owned a vinyard. In Genesis, Kirk had a house that he sold. There are other transactions that occur throughout the universe. Yes, im aware there are mentions of not needing money but like with most socialist ideas, it doesn't seem very well thought out all things considered.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
The secret of course, is just because they don't use money, doesn't make everything free. Having your own spacecraft for example was really, really rare. You had to be some sort of super scientist to convince the federation to give you a warp-2 shuttlecraft.
@aamir122a
@aamir122a 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where the word Ferengi came from, it came from India, the word Ferengi ( فِرَنگی ), literally means those who profit or those who are here only for profit. This word was used in India ( Urdu speaking ) for British. This word became the far cry for the freedom moment of 1857. In a way, East India company was here for Profit, like any other company whose performance is judged by returns to the stakeholders.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
He literally says where it comes from in the video
@michaellamontagne4079
@michaellamontagne4079 Жыл бұрын
I agree that the Ferengi were awful in the beginning of TNG. Then they were made "Funny" as in "Menage a Troi". Then DS9 took them a step further. I have to actually say that Quark is my favorite character for the entire Star Trek series and I mean ALL of them.
@WorivpuqloDMogh
@WorivpuqloDMogh 2 жыл бұрын
Zeks annoying laugh is just the best
@WiseOwl_1408
@WiseOwl_1408 3 жыл бұрын
"take those clothes off right now mother"
@TentaclePentacle
@TentaclePentacle 2 жыл бұрын
As customed we will offer you the life of our first officer. Ferengi's are more violent than otherwise suggests.
@Jakethegoodman
@Jakethegoodman 2 жыл бұрын
Im not much of a star trek expert but Ferengenar has green plants so I'd expect a K type over a red star.
@FablestoneSeries
@FablestoneSeries Жыл бұрын
One thing that bothered me about the Ferengi homeworld is it is impossible for a biosphere to rain everywhere all the time. (Star Wars is even more guilty of this)
@ServantOfOdin
@ServantOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Distant relatives.... So... Like the Vulcans and Mintakans... Or Vulcans and Romulans....Sounds reasonable.
@drmcmoose9335
@drmcmoose9335 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
@twitchew
@twitchew Жыл бұрын
i do wish they had gone more toward a more batlike appearance, but that may have made them too monstrous. DISCO seems to lean more toward this depiction.
@beezelbuzzel
@beezelbuzzel 2 жыл бұрын
"Ferengi sex positions" isn't why I'm here. However, it is why I came. Hayooh! I'll see myself out...
@philfedorowick
@philfedorowick 2 жыл бұрын
:lul:
@Joseph1701-A
@Joseph1701-A 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to live on Ferenginar.
@wingitprod
@wingitprod 3 жыл бұрын
Ferengis might plummet into an existential dilemma once the females begin to compete economically. Unless they have extensive fertility. Good vid. I didn't know the species was so fleshed out. Most episodes I caught made them into a mockery.
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