Ukraine's New & Improved Home Made Self-Propelled Gun

Building on the home made self-propelled gun developed near Mykolaiv engineers at Ukrtransgaz - Ukraine's state-owned gas pipeline company, have built their own MT-LB & MT-12 SPG with added crew protection.
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[@erloriel]

The Marder lives!

[@andymarkey88]

World of tanks flash back

[@drudriver3660]

The Marder was armed with a 20Mike Mike if my memory is solid on this. The Ukrainian forces are arming this beast with a 100 mm. Also known as a can opener! LOL As I see it the two worst jobs in the Russian army in Ukraine is a Russian flag officer and of course a tanker. Nope those are not flying saucers 🛸 in the Ukrainian skies those are Russian turrets.

[@simonbarabash2151]

@@drudriver3660 talking about the ww2 marder

[@krulerwest-oz7364]

@@drudriver3660 He was referring to the WW2 German Marder tank

[@drudriver3660]

Ok a WW2 Marder was equipped with a 76 cm Soviet gun or a pak 40 the point is intact be it a WW2 Marder or a modern Marder

[@craigharness3156]

Welders+guns+tracked vehicles=magic

[@Luis-be9mi]

Engineers can make some whacky things in garages and with whatever is available. But as the popular saying goes "It ain't stupid if it works!"

[@davesherry5384]

Welders+guns+tracked vehicles+stupid idea=dead crew

[@X_RayLT]

@@davesherry5384 Considering how often this idea has worked I wouldnt say its stupid

[@shimadwan8251]

@@X_RayLT cheap drone can kill the crew with HE Frag Grenade

[@LeMeowAu]

@@shimadwan8251 what about the multiple open topped artillery vehicles fielded by both sides? is that not stupid by the metric of drones existing

[@wwlb4970]

The doctrine for MT-LB usage was exactly like this: it is neither APC (slow and ineffective on roads), nor IFV (slow and under-armed), nor a reconnaisance vehicle (slow and big), nor an artillery tow vehicle (not extremely passable). It is just something. You can do whatever you want with that and it will have equally mediocre performace everywhere. Which is strength.

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

MT-LB is an artillery tow vehicle

[@wwlb4970]

@@BlaBla-pf8mf Yeah, also mediocre one.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

The DIY jobs of Ukraine are incredible

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

It looks like a mini ferdinand. Probly like one of those late war ones the germans were playing around with. Be wicked for taking out bunkers with the heat round. Bunkers and whatnot Awesome man. Cheers

[@greenmancroc7914]

More like a Gigantic Marder

[@UK_IN_US]

Or Nashorn

[@chloeholmes4641]

@@UK_IN_US if the Nashorn and the SU 100 P had a baby. If Ukraine makes more makeshift vehicles i can see them get their own tech tree in war thunder. Atleaat for the ground forces tree

[@anthonyseta4566]

Great video. Thanks for posting. Some of the other commenters already opined my own thoughts, that this Ukrainian vehicle re-design is directly reminiscent of German WWII modifications by taking T38, Pzkw 1-2 chasses, removing original production turrets, and replacing with 75MM PAK anti-tank guns with a welded surround of steel plates to protect the gun crews. Overall the concept worked somewhat well for the Germans for the most part, particularly on the Eastern Front. So let's see how this goes. Thanks again for posting such a cool video.

[@drudriver3660]

To me I am more inclined to see a connection to the Swedish Stridsvagn 103 (or "S-Tank").

[@TheArmourersBench]

Can certainly see that too.

[@hansulrichboning8551]

Not only the germans built such improvised vehicles, look at the russian SU 76 or british Archer.

[@miketogwell1000]

Of the Romanian tacams

[@davesherry5384]

@@drudriver3660 Keep on smoking that stuff, mate, maybe you'll see a ukrainan victory in all of this.

[@supersasquatch]

there should also be a roof cover against grenade drops from drones

[@johngriffiths118]

It goes without saying “ air bursts”

[@maplecreek662]

Looks like the Nashorn from ww2.

[@Nebris]

Yes.

[@davebauman4991]

Nashorn's rifled gun was only 88mm. This thing shoots a 100mm smooth bore anti-tank gun with HEAT rounds. Awesome.

[@mightygoose137]

@@davebauman4991 key word, I said it " looks like "

[@blue-skyuniform]

This can really help Ukrainian artillery for better and quicker movement, this makes more easier to move around

[@brndnew01]

So it's basically a modernized WW2 tank destroyer...

[@zoiders]

Not really. Tank destroyers were built on tank chassis.

[@teejin669]

​@@zoiders Tank destroyers can really be almost anything. there were tank destroyers that were jeeps with a 37mm on the back. The Chieftan has a great video on tank destroyers, if you haven't seen it already.

[@brndnew01]

The concept remains...

[@teejin669]

​@@zoiders tank destroyers is more of a doctrinal requirement than a type of vehicle

[@Br1cht]

This is WORSE that WWII tech in that the crew got to dismount and use a long lanyard to fire it. This would seem to be a puff piece for the morale of Western Consoomers with little knowledge tbh, Ukrainians are brave, not stupid and so wouldn´t use this if they had quite literally anything else to choose from.

[@wogelson]

Congratulations for using WW2 designs. I hope they don't forget to mount a Maxim mg on top as well:)

[@davebauman4991]

Them Maxims are undergoing upgrades like belt-less ammo feeding mechanism, IR & night sights, muzzle brake, ceramic armored face plate, gyro stabilization, etc. Wasteful "spray & pray" is finished. Drone efficiency is evolving.

[@mechano6505]

You can see at 3:04 but the MTLB already has a small turret with a 7.62 mm PKT machine-gun.

[@barryoverson4988]

back to the shop to fine tune the sights and away they go merrily off to kick some ass with their new toy and a drone i just love seeing creative minds making something out of junk

Very interesting. I think it now looks a bite more Hummel like then the earlier one. Looks like I need to do a new Video. Hoepfully one of these things ends up in the German Tank museuma after this war :)

[@Br1cht]

More likely Kubinka or some Polish location since geography matters.

[@hlvscomendandeche8744]

It looks and compares more to the Nashorn

[@avilhelm1697]

So this is not the same vehicle one as the previous one, but with upgrades? That's pretty neat seeing the birth of this seemingly standardised vehicle if it moves forward.

[@chriskortan1530]

It won't last long the way it gets shoved a meter or more every shot. You can see the effect on the track ready to fall off. It needs a blade at the back.

[@jimmyneutron5679]

pretty normal for low weight vehicles and high calibre guns lmao

[@hjagger]

If you look closely. Tank is out of gear so when it fires it rolls back on its tracks absorbing the recoil.

[@corey8420]

Love your videos, I get a little excited evertime you upload on KZbin.

[@dogstarstudios718]

I'm still waiting for the Ukrainian version of the Stug III/IV to roll out! 👍👍

[@leneanderthalien]

The Stugs was the favorite tanks from the germans during WW2 because they reliability , efficiency and low profile...

[@danielchew8739]

So essentially a modern take on the Marder Tank Destroyer.

[@Br1cht]

No, not at all besides both having a gun but it doesn´t work like a Tank destroyer since they A: can´t fire the non-stabilized gun when moving and B: the crew got to dismount and use a bloody lanyard to fire it, this is sub-par for WWII tech. It looks cool for the uneducated masses but this is just a puff piece bit with very limited use.

[@baneofbanes]

More like an assault gun meant for attacking fortifications.

[@leehotspur9679]

@@baneofbanes True Why would smack a tank with this when you have so many AT shoulder fire armaments Better used with VT fused Ammo to strafe trucks and personnel carriers

[@Armin2012]

And here we thought that gun-based tank destroyers were obsolete Not quite yet, it’s still kicking

[@Marcellogo]

Both Ukrainians that Russians think exactly the contrary about the MT-12 AT gun. First ones have constantly kept them in service and the second ones are re-introducing them back as a STANDARD weapon i.e. they would kept it in their regular units even after the war would be finished. both of them have infact found confirmed also during such conflict that although its own APFSDS rounds has not anymore the capacity of engage modern tanks on the frontal arc this doesn't modify very much its own utility as even before they were not intended to be used in such a way but in flanking ambushes leaving instead to the heavy ATGM (that are part of the same speciality i.e. Artillery and Missile Troops) the head on engagements.

[@KG-1]

Twilight 2000 becomes real life. Imagine a version of these in 1944. Understand the 122mm decision the Soviets made for the JS series, but would still argue they'd have kicked real ass if they'd taken the 100mm instead, early enough, and made a triple threat gun-vehicle family: their version of the PAK 43, a good Artillery Gun, and a good AA gun.

[@cathoderay305]

So, they've made something like World War 2 Germany's Sd.Kfz. 124 Wespe or Hummel? It seems to have the same deficiencies, notably uncovered fighting compartment that makes the artillery crew vulnerable to the weather and shrapnel. Still, it gets a powerful gun to the battlefront quickly and allows for a quicker "shoot and scoot" to avoid counter-battery fire.

[@NomadShadow1]

Interesting. When I heard the gas company’s abbreviation is “UTG” I couldn’t help but think “Are we 100% sure that there’s no relation to the UTG that sells ‘budget’ firearm accessories?”

[@baneofbanes]

Tbf Ive heard that their non-optics products aren’t terrible.

[@chooseyouhandle]

Reminds me of the Archer TD

[@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344]

I would say that it is a nice improvisation. The limits will be that it is primarily direct attack and would face difficulty in areas where advanced ATGMs were present. The aiming systems would be a bit crude as well. Seems like something that Ukraine could do with lots of obsolete guns and recoiless rifles.

[@volodymyrsukhyna5932]

The UAF use apps like Kropyva and Armor which contain artillery tables for all kinds of ordnance. They assist with indirect fire for anything heavier than a machine gun. I'm sure this vehicle will be used as a 'pocket SPG'.

[@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344]

@@volodymyrsukhyna5932 Except that the 100mm anti-tank gun here would require testing to see the way to get it set for indirect fire. Given the limited elevation capability and shell without variable propellant that means that it would struggle with having a large range of choices to target the shells. There is nothing wrong with that. It is just a direct fire weapon. This is not magic.

[@hlvscomendandeche8744]

@@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 UAF know how to operate mt-12 as field gun(indirect fire weapon) this version has improved elevation arc in comparison to the 1st vehicle, also is looks like it is very good for ambush. Btw. MT-12 is capable of killing any tank from the side with heat or apfsds and it will kill anything from the front including t62 and apc/ifv etc...

[@mechano6505]

@@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 They specifically modified it to gain additional elevation

[@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344]

@@mechano6505 But only slightly not to 45 or 60 degrees. Listen to the video again and you will here 20 degrees iirc.

[@mrdynamic8678]

Looks like the British/Canadian Archer from WW2

[@babaganoush6106]

Yes! Crossed with a ‘Kangaroo’?

[@TheoEvian]

Kid: "I want a Stryker MGS" Mom: "We have a Stryker MGS at home" Stryker MGS at home:

[@nixit3495]

Tank destroyers are back in style baby!

[@aaronlopez492]

God bless "The Ukrainian ingenuity" nice job.🇺🇦👍🙏

[@LSTWTF]

Will Ukraine get its own section in War Thunder?

[@Cplblue]

Lol...no way. Gaijin is Russian. When the counter offensive began, they remuted chat.

[@leeboy26]

Ukrainian tractor farmers OP pls nerf.

[@rizaradri316]

I don't think so

[@mihajlokukilo5675]

from prespective this vehicle looks pretty good only bad thing is that its open top so its could be easy target for aviation ,even so this actuly gives a vibe of like '' modern marder lll ''

[@NICOLAI_VET]

Looks a little like the Marder III ausf M or the SU-76. 👍🏽

[@eddyspageddi7128]

The look of it reminds me of a sturer emil or a sized up su76

[@dragosvestemean4229]

The new Marder! :)

[@outdoorfreedom9778]

Reminds me of a gun-type used in WWII by both sides.

[@ptonpc]

May it and its crew(s) have good hunting. I was wondering what the 'chute /' exhaust' is on the left side. It seems to come from just in front of the fighting compartment and end just above the track.

[@RyTrapp0]

I can't even imagine how loud that must be firing from inside, that's gotta be like a second or two blackout lol

[@aA-ye1cf]

Bloody brilliant. May it prove devasting to the orcs! BRAVO AND WELL DONE1 SLAVA UKRAINE!

[@generalwoundwort8191]

with all the artillery and drones about, needs a roof! but good for 2nd line units, who lack fire power support.

[@rokuth]

Kinda reminds me of some WW2 German SP guns like the Wespe...

[@filippinoramb]

Getting Marder vibes here

[@skyefarnam7857]

I wonder if they could just cut the roof down the middle and bend it up for the side armor.

[@paullakowski2509]

THIS is like NASHORN SPATG [100L63]

[@zhickl4817]

I would like to know how they can maintain the engine since the cannon barrel seems to be above the top hatch for the engine. They might be able to rotate the gun enough to the right so they can open it but I dont know. But if they cant open the top hatch they would have to service the engine through the inside which is possible for some maintenance (There are detachable panels to get access to the engine from the crew compartment and cabin). Or would they just remove the gun for engine maintenance?

[@andrewgreen1940]

Reinventing the tank destroyer? Wonder why it ever went away.

[@Aaron-zu3xn]

what we saw loaded was a saboted penetrator rod round

[@barriewright2857]

Nassesaty is the mother of invention.

[@lutzfilor56]

Sturmgeschütz is not so stupid after all. Especially if you give chase.

[@dolphinofthedeep4292]

Was wondering when they were going to bring back casemates

[@chaosknight9131]

It may look like something the Soviets made, but with the right recon support and camouflage, it could prove to be an excellent ambush machine

[@brasstard7.627]

I thought it's was an improvised SPG9 or BMP type gun to shoot that ammo when I saw the title this morning

[@danyvarna5094]

Not perfect. Gets a job done. Good for them! Glory to the heroes! 🙂

[@LordOceanus]

They've literally made a Marder III scaled up 30-50%

[@davidkermes376]

looks like a good ol' fashioned assault gun. go for it, ukraine!

[@Xander_Zimmermann]

It reminds me of the SU-76 used by the Soviet Red Army in WWII.

[@TurboTwinky28]

Modern version of the SU-85A

[@lornamorgan3575]

Necessity is the mother of invention and the Ukrainians are very inventive.

[@alonsocushing2263]

Once again we see the ingenuity and innovation of the Ukrainian people.

[@shingshongshamalama]

"We produce gas. Manage gas pipelines. Natural gas transportation, refinement, and handling products. Also tank destroyers."

[@TacticalCaveman997]

That's a diy tank destroyer 😳

[@leighrate]

I seriously hope these lads have made a serious study of the tactics American Wolverine Tank Destroyers employed during World War Two.

[@davebauman4991]

Next, large auto-loading twin mortars mounted on another modified troop transporter.

[@YT-mn4eq]

Nuts that a natural gas company built this

[@TheArmourersBench]

Really is.

[@minuteman4199]

The Germans did this sort of thing a lot on WW2.

[@anselmdanker9519]

Necessity is the mother of invention. Slava Ukraine 👌

[@leighrate]

At least give them some overhead cover and a machine gun mount. Two biggest dangers to them are being counterbatteried and dismounted infantry.

[@quentintin1]

for the MG mount , the MT-LB already has one built in, with the little MG turret mounted on the forward right as for counter battery protection first the issue would be finding enough armour plate to make the roof secondly you can see the built up shields and the gun shield don't cover entirely the crew when they are riding standing, so adding a roof might complicate operations additionally the guns emits a lot of fumes from the breech end, so a closed compartment would quite quickly become unlivable if it was a purpose build vehicle, i would agree, but they are quite literally welding a field gun on top of a MT-LB, so they have to work with limitations of both platforms

[@gastonlinares5593]

@@quentintin1 Also, you spect to not be machine-gunned while driving SPGs. Should not be a frontline unit

[@sporeman2678]

Improvised self propelled guns, this war really is ww2 reboot

[@lordgong4980]

I'm wondering about the actual functionality/effectiveness of this vehicle in combat. I would very much like to see it in action

[@lordgong4980]

The Gun is quite old but luckily the Russians are running out of the newer tanks that resist shots from it

[@crabluva]

Would destroy bunkers and could provide cover to infantry assaulting trench systems.

[@gomergomez1984]

Even sexier than the Marder… still a place for assault guns and AT systems when fighting the Russians, hope they build a hundred more, now to make a mortar track for the 120mm system.

[@VeraTR909]

Haha awesome, you love to see it.

[@VimmiiPOV]

"Parry this filthy casual" Said the ukrainian gunner before full sending a 100mm

[@junkers3824]

I bet we’re gonna see this thing as a premium tank in war thunder a few years from now lol

[@andreemets8564]

Gives off su76 vibes

[@gunner678]

The Germans did this a lot in WW2. The Yugoslav army and the republics did the same too in the 90s.

[@phill2065]

it doesn't seem to be very accurate. Seems more like an artillery piece that can direct fire tanks.

[@Cplblue]

Had trouble hitting the side of a big hill. Doubt it'd effectively hit a tank.

[@phill2065]

@@Cplblue its almost like it wasnt designed for this role :)))

[@Cplblue]

@@phill2065 An AT gun that lacks accuracy to effectively hit a tank? Definitely.

[@RemingtonSVK]

@@Cplblue they were not hitting the side of that hill, but steel plates under that side, you can see primary "bounce" from ground where plates are and then the shell hit the side of the hill.

[@zoiders]

The crew don't look hugely convinced by the system and I would have concerns about its ability to safely and accurately repeat serials when it comes to infantry calling down fire missions as it won't stay in one place when fired due to no hydraulic buffer. It's got uses in the direct fire role as an improvised assault gun.

[@matteusvirtanen392]

I think it's okay as a stopgap measure or for second line TDF troops in case of enemy forces that somehow got behind the front lines. Definitely has room for improvement though.

[@quentintin1]

you mean about them firing the dun disembarked and with a lanyard? i would say it's possible the firing of the gun are tests to see if the construction survives the firing, so you stay out in case it suffers a rapid unscheduled disassembly also it seem to be quite often the case with soviet field artillery that the crew is trained to take cover before firing the gun, so could be a hold from that

[@Kaboomf]

I agree they really need hydraulic "spades" or a dozer blade at the rear, to dig in under recoil so the gun gets stabilised after the first shot. With the current configuration, they have to re-aim after every single shot so their rate of fire in indirect fire mode will be very slow. Firing from outside with a lanyard is much less of a problem than the lack of repeatability.

[@zoiders]

@@Kaboomf Spades tend to be found on much bigger SP guns getting on for the 10" mark. A 4" gun system such as this shouldn't need one. The transmission clearly needs work to make it lock the tracks out and recoil management needs looking at. It's not usable in the indirect fire role in its current form. It would be better if it had simply been converted into a mortar carrier.

[@Gabthar]

Lol I have a few UTG items but I bought them on Amazon when I was in my 20s and they aren't quite as good

[@baneofbanes]

Different UTG.

[@Gabthar]

Yes I’m aware lol

[@LizardGuy50]

i wonder if this will ever appear in war thunder?

[@terrynewsome6698]

Ever going to do the mistral 2 from Norway yet?

[@TheArmourersBench]

Yes, absolutely.

[@drudriver3660]

I hope nobody misses the critical point here. Ukraine has captured so much Russian equipment that it can now afford to spend weeks modifying and improvise entirely new weapons of a special purpose nature. This is an intriguing commentary not just on Ukrainian success but Russian failures as well. This is a palpable indication that Ukraine has achieved irreversible momentum. Russia has many blood drenched and heart breaking days ahead. That is the wages of being a thug be it a person or state.

[@lawrencelebreton6720]

So cool

[@mycure0498]

Pimp my MT-LB

[@Clonefiles]

As an ex soldier i dont know why you would check your weapon after breaking into the enemy territory...

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Every MT-LB gun carrier is just another demonstration superior soviet design lol. this shows superior ruggedness and adaptability of soviet designs over western ones. meanwhile every Western system needs years of training just to know what button not to push. also i'd say the fall of the shots is hitting a pretty wide area. so this will be useless against mobile targets or well fortified ones as the RF will have much more counter battery on call.

[@pmgn8444]

When Ukraine finally kicks the Rus out their territory, they will have one heck of time getting equipment standardization in place!

[@g1317547]

Like a old german anti tank vehicle

[@taciodasilva8291]

Who doesn't have dog hunt with cat.

[@davidhuffman8352]

The busted a Nashorn out of the museum?

[@240pixel]

in the age of amazon drones with grenades attached to them riding to battle in a convertible is not the cash money move.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Definitely a concern!

[@stephenbrand5661]

Grenade drops?

[@TheArmourersBench]

Definitely a threat!

[@leehotspur9679]

No different to any artillery piece

[@pgrobert]

Great follow up video! Ukraine is starving for artillery and tanks and desperately needs to fill the gap! Too much attention is paid to it's use as an anti-tank weapon against MBT-this gun can destroy everything else. Ukraine is finally putting anti-aircraft, recoilless guns and anti-tank guns on APC's and trucks-make defensive weapons(waiting for their prey.....) into offensive weapons to apply pressure on Russia. They need to proliferate the guns on the front lines to keep pressure on Russia. I have seen too many video's of Ukrainian solders complaining they can't punch back at incoming fire.

[@brianjordan2192]

Looks like a German WW 2 Marder 3.

[@keesvandenbroek331]

Well, what do you know: Ukraine and RuSSia working together. What a smashing idea.

[@eoincollins379]

Nashorn 2.0

[@michaeldy3157]

Awesome

[@RandyArmy]

SU 76 Then

[@pistonar]

SU-76 A1

[@ansonellis443]

Wasn't the original thing meant as a tank destroyer not as self propelled gun

[@TheArmourersBench]

Yes it was, it was described as a tank destroyer by UAF press but Ukrainian soldiers I've spoken to say they're mixed role with them often being used as an assault gun.

[@ansonellis443]

@@TheArmourersBench How many did Ukraine make on the field the (original)

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@ansonellis443 I'm told 2 at least but I haven't had visual confirmation

[@rionijam727]

Plans to make 2 more, how about 500

[@dejectedfrogcat2840]

Heh, looks like a bigger version of SU-76.

[@Dimythios]

I can tell you with certainly as I had family in the defense industry that the 100mm Anti armor/air gun is very good. This is a nice way to to a spg with the mobile army of today with limited resources. Excellent job Ukraine!!!