FAMAS In Ukraine

[@TheArmourersBench]

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[@iatsd]

It's not just the rifling that limits the use of round. The recoil delay system itself is designed for the lower powered steel cartridge. Using the higher power SS109 rounds poses an increased danger of failure over time.

[@thegael1996]

The variety of weapons used in this war is like a bloody Counter Strike game.

[@quakethedoombringer]

I am pretty sure except for the desert eagle (because of how rare it is), every firearm in this game has seen actual use in this war

[@nickkennedy9034]

@@quakethedoombringer I don't know if the Glock 18 has shown up yet either

[@johnfrost1814]

​@@nickkennedy9034 pretty much sure that GRU units use them

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

@@quakethedoombringer I can guarantee you some Ukranian commander is carrying one on his hip as I write this comment.

[@BaconSlayer69]

@@nickkennedy9034pistols are barely if not used in large conventional wars

[@donttreadonmemes]

Ukraines logistic situation has to be a nightmare.

[@rklkify]

maybe, probably isn't that bad for small arms and ammo. Vehicles and tanks are probably harder to maintain

[@banger2998]

Arguably one of the worst in modern military history they have to call Germany USA uk to get spare parts for a broken tank or artillery piece and instructions. Then they have to convince Vietnam the next day to sell them Soviet ammunition.

[@ethansleepybear]

@@rklkify I was gonna say most of the guns they are getting meet the NATO standard for ammo/mag so different housing but same ammo largely. Obvi there's a lot of exceptions to this. Just generalizing

[@pluemas]

Maintenance in the field is taxing, to say the least, but most of the big jobs they just ship it back west and the countries that ruj them refit and repair them. Could be far worse. ​@@rklkify

[@pluemas]

​@@MartinMcAvoy it is obvious you know nothing of the situation on the ground.

[@Masada1911]

It seems like pretty much every firearm under the sun has seen some kind of service in this war.

[@cm275]

I’m waiting to see Garands and Mosin-Nagants in use.

[@johnsmith-jq1uc]

@@cm275 seen mosins, yet to see enfields

[@NeonMako]

​@cm275 Mosin Nagants have seen service in the war. Don't think there is any evidence (or liklihood) of a Garand though 😂

[@not2hot99]

@@cm275 didnt the donetsk and luhansk republic use the mosin nagant?

[@quakethedoombringer]

I haven't seen any Asian domestic firearms (Singapore, Korea, Japan) appearing

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Ian McCollum: *happy french noises*

[@christiananderson1419]

So basically Ukraine has the same sort of arsenal as the Russian forces in the original MW2 at this point.

[@razgriz1258]

Kinda, just more AK-74s than AKMs...

[@GaionSputro]

Tar-21, PP90, F2000, and etc... So ridiculous back then when l see those game🤣

[@worz4662]

The FA-MAS was made in the 1973 so after that

[@worz4662]

@@Volvotryggve oupsy hahaha

[@manueljesussanchezfuente8449]

No, now there are more diferent kinds of arms and ammunition…

[@ianray8823]

If youre into JDM cars: IS THAT A SUPRA?! If you're into guns: IS THAT A FAMAS?!

[@riclate2013]

Its more like is that an HK? A famas is more like seeing unicorn in civilian life

[@uss_liberty_incident]

Oh Frankie McBaseball. I wonder if he ever got to hold an actual FAMAS.

[@comethiburs2326]

@@riclate2013 yeah well, a Mk4 is a 45K car run, 11K sold in the us, a good chunk of the cars are gone... it looks great and is a lot more in looks than it really was a performer (as it was a GT after all...) honestly it fits. the famas is too "common" to say IS THAT A VENTURI? (actual exotic french sports car)

[@thekinginyellow1744]

Is the Nissan Skyline no longer the archetype JDM car? I must be getting old.

[@jeanboseau9249]

I have used Famas, and I like it very much.

[@StefanBlagojevic]

@jeanboseau9249 Too bad the French Army doesn't.

[@yenko5196]

@@StefanBlagojevic They very much do…

[@LuluBear974]

​@StefanBlagojevic it does! What it doesn’t like is the platform not evolving and not being updated along the years like AR15 becoming... M16 becoming... M4 because of constant improvements! Only thing lacking to the famas is good ergonomics and rail system: take the barrel, the action and the trigger group, put it inside a VHS-2 or better a Desert Tech WLVRN (with Desert Tech trigger linkage) and you have one hell of a beast!!!

[@ommsterlitz1805]

@@StefanBlagojevic The French army loved it and wanted a modern equivalent, then the leftists took power shutdown the national arms factories and destroyed everything so that workers wouldn't make weapons to give to a probable revolution.

[@murphy7801]

​@@StefanBlagojevicnot a matter of like. Issue is can't make anymore or parts.

[@marcg1686]

I'm surprised to see some soldiers removing the bipod. I greatly appreciated having one when I transitioned from the FAL to the Galil.

[@felinvirginia1]

The bipod of the F1 was realy good, but the one from the Revalorisé is dog shit, very fragile and less rigide than the first version

[@marcg1686]

@@felinvirginia1 Thanks for the clarification.

[@victor6814]

The bipod can fall dawn after each shot. That’s why.

[@marcg1686]

@@victor6814 That sucks.

[@victor6814]

Yep.

[@mikeblair2594]

The French naval FAMAS does use stanag mags. they did use the steel cased ammo originally because of the high pressure curve you get with a lever delayed blowback. it also has a fluted chamber for that same reason. They've changed the barrel and worked out the issues so firing brass cased ammo is fine

[@mrreziik]

The F1 showed in the video is an earlier model and does not accept Stanag mags, don't know if they could be easily converted tho

[@leneanderthalien]

Yep French navy FAMAS are the G2: reconizable with the gard from the pistol handle and can use curved STANAG 30 shot magazines, also M16 type ...

[@leneanderthalien]

@@mrreziik the FAMAS whe see here is a F1 "valorisé", with a new barell adapted to NATO 5.56, but compatible only with M16 type magazine, only the G2 can use curved Stanag magazines

[@BackyardDogPark9862]

(Ian McCullum heeds the call of the francophile, immediately books a trip to Ukraine) 🤣

[@beelow84]

Even if he could take a crate home, he's not going to a warzone, guy. he's a tad too, bourgeoisie, if you will.

[@xc43t]

@@beelow84 being an expert or a historian and occasionally playing soldier in a safe environment is one thing, having grenades dropped on you by a drone is completely different game. Not to mention, people who go to war usually believe in the cause and those are mostly dead by now in this conflict. Next wave of recruits are usually those who have no other choice or are forced to participate. Ian is not your regular (redneck) youth with no other prospects. Good for him.

[@minerran]

and you dislike france for what reason? Your "francophile" sarcasm makes it obvious.

[@AirForceJuan747]

@@minerran Ian has described himself as a francophile on occasion.

[@insultinsultan705]

​@@minerranany reason under the sun is good enough reason to spit on frogs

[@Vicarious_Heart]

As much as Ukrainian logistics must be a fucking nightmare, I honestly think that it's a very precious learning opportunity for NATO logistics. From the get-go, the entire goal behind standardized interchangeable equipment like STANAG magazines, picatinny rail systems, 5.56 and 7.62 calibers, etc. was to make logistics simpler, especially even when faced with different member countries' varied weapon designs. The Ukraine War is the true testing ground for NATO logistics that GWOT and joint military exercises could never be.

[@rustyshacklferd1854]

research the Coo that happened in Ukraine in 2014. The people of Eastern Ukraine voted to join Russia again and a few days after the vote passed a violent overthrow of the government and installation of a puppet leader prior to Zelinski happened. Then for almost 9 years they have been shelling the cities of Eastern Ukraine and have been killing civilians daily. Totalling almost 20,000 civilians in almost a decade. Putin had warned Western leaders for years to stop killing ethnic Russians there and encroaching on Russian territory but They Refused to abide by there own (Minsk accord) and Putin finally said enough is enough and started the Special Military Operation. You have been lied to by Corporate media your whole life.

[@spartacus7646]

NATO exercises, protocols and requirements are all compatible for ammunition, ordnance, magazines (STANAG) etc it's never been an issue and was proven decades ago. Ukraine is not NATO, hence it is no testing ground nor proof of concept. Afghanistan was.

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

If I recall correctly, when the FAMAS F1s went through the revalorisé process at Nexter Mechanics, they were re-barreled with 1/7" twist barrels made by Beretta

[@BaconSlayer69]

Those aren’t f1s and

[@vonderdynamite4435]

Did you watch/hear the video?

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

@@BaconSlayer69 Re-read the part where I mention "valorisé"

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

@@vonderdynamite4435 Yes, why?

[@BaconSlayer69]

@@TeletubbiesRcute still the Famas rifles in the video aren’t f1s my point remains look at the upper receiver

[@nilspochat8665]

he pronounced everything (mostly) right 🤩

[@matthewgarrity9405]

I went airsofting after a long time and it's amazing how homogeneous the used platforms were. Ukraine got a bigger roster of firearms than a video game at this point

[@CalvinL.Stevens]

Yeah, Airsofting = 90% ARs, some SCARs and that ONE guy using an AKM.

[@lukeamato423]

Famas is a great weapon.

[@psychoairsoft7146]

bruh the soldier testing the Famas at the start of the video has no left hand, and is still flipping that bipod out faster than i probably could! freaking legend!

[@s.k.6616]

I am a bullpup fan. Former Army Infantry , I totally get the reason why they serve their purpose. Everything in life is a compromise, but in mount and vehicles the modern bullpup rules.

[@christopherneufelt8971]

In the field, what rules, is how much maintenance the equipment requires,. Having said that, in the current theater, 6 months are rain, and the ground is sandy and muddy, which very quickly can demote the capabilities of the equipment mentioned in this presentation. It would be prefereable something like HK for this situation, or better, peace.

[@s.k.6616]

@@christopherneufelt8971 Then a short stroke or long stroke piston.

[@christopherneufelt8971]

@@s.k.6616 Or free netflix, amazon, disney channel so that suddenly all war parties stop to fight. Oh, I forgot: free only fans for the warzone.

[@olddog-fv2ox]

The bullpup brings the centre of gravity closer to the shoulder making it easier to hold accurately

[@MayumiC-chan9377]

i wouldn’t be surprised if we see the Howa Type-89 there but my country never sells it

[@schweinehund3497]

you're not real

[@nam430]

@@schweinehund3497indeed, we all know japanese people cant speak english because they can never do it properly in anime

[@dannyzero692]

I thought Japan doesn't sell weapons? So far all I've known is that Japan only sent helmets and other infantry equipment that isn't a firearm.

[@MayumiC-chan9377]

@@dannyzero692 I know i said it in Jest, My father served in the JGSDF from 1974-89 and utilized the Howa Type-64 my older brothers used the Type-89 during their time.

[@Liam1991]

It would be interesting to see Japanese weapons being field tested in live combat. Especially the Japanese military is in the middle of replacing their rifles

[@Scout339th]

5:44 Do you know where you can get more info about that gray radio box with two antennas sticking out of it? I know that it's used for drone detection, but I don't know how it works, or how it informs troops of nearby drones and I'm quite curious.

[@eboomer]

I imagine they also have a SOCOM, PSG-1, Nikita, and... A HIND D?!...

[@wh8787]

What's a Russian gunship doing here?!

[@nielsmichiels1939]

@@wh8787 It just downed two F16's!

[@eboomer]

@@wh8787 I have no idea... but it looks like our little diversion got their attention.

[@TheGelatinousSnake]

😎

[@phillipmartinez9232]

Nice, that's what I think about every time I see a famas or socom since 1998 when I was 8. And a stinger for that matter. 1 of best video games ever.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

Q to my French brothers. In French do you call the HK416 'quatre cent seize' or e.g. 'quatre seize'? Also is there a nickname for it yet? e.g. Famas = clairon (bugle).

[@hrldp4394]

In "civilian" we call it quatre cent seize but i am sure that military call it with a short name. for the new Glocks, (new sidearm of french military) the description is PSA GLOCK (Pistolet Semi-Automatique)but i am sure they refer to it as "glock" for shotgun, FAP (yeah you can laugh as Fusil A Pompe) Where i work we have the hk ump9, and we call it "le Hk"

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

@@hrldp4394 merci pour la réponse intéressante.

[@sreideur3506]

Just HK

[@mysticaccount5845]

We pronounce it "HK quatre cent seize". Same way French people don't say "dix-neuf quatorze" to say nineteen-fourteen, they say "mille neuf-cent quatorze" as in nineteen-hundred & forty-two.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

@mysticaccount5845 this I know. Am pretty fluent, pour un rosbif. But the military are famous for shortening names, to aid communication. As is the French informal language. One could drop the 'cent' and it still makes sense. HK is also sounding realistic in everyday use as there are no/few other HK products in the system. "Ash kah".

[@r-saint]

Gratz on 100K subs.

[@3DSlav]

About time we see the Famas.

[@donwyoming1936]

They'll probably end up armory oddities like the M14s & FALs due to the lack of magazines.

[@lilfattcatt7758]

Really sucks that the FAL and M14 are oddities rn they’d both make killer DMRs Shit the FAL can shoot some rifle grenades too I believe

[@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361]

Stanag work on Famas

[@felinvirginia1]

FAL are largely used in Ukraine since they are still made by FN. A shit load of them have already been sent with good reputation

[@wh8787]

They've had M14s for a while. I forget why.

[@AndrewAnderson-vb4pp]

The already have m14 and fal

[@ThatSockmonkey]

I always wanted to fire one of these on the range. They look very cool, and they started my weird obession/adoration of NATO standard 5.56mm bullpup rifles. Thanks man, really interesting episode. Its amazing to see the range of rifles being used. Edit oh I didn't know about the lower power round. And you know I love me an ss109.

[@CapnDan57]

Thanks again, Matt. It would be interesting to hear the numbers of units using NATO standard calibers vs. old Soviet ones. Logistically, it would be bad to mix the two. I'd imagine the armorers face significant challenges. Also, do you happen to know the mix of calibers for the Malyuks? Your previous vid is two years on now.

[@1111Tactical]

4:03 The trigger is so bad you can visually see the shooter struggling with it.

[@felinvirginia1]

Bullpup guns always have weird triggers but not sure looking at how he is shooting that he is a very experienced shooter

[@1111Tactical]

@@felinvirginia1 The Famas is particular bad among bullpups

[@sergiom9958]

Great video! Thanks!

[@TheArmourersBench]

Thank you for watching!

[@JusufBideovic]

god i love this channel

[@TheArmourersBench]

Thank you!!

[@Max_Da_G]

It IS possible to adapt FAMAS to use STANAG, if memory serves. FAMAS G2 is one such rifle which French navy uses. Wonder if anyone in Ukrainian industry bothered to look into it.

[@TheArmourersBench]

For 1,000 rifles, probably not. Thanks for watching!

[@RecipeForDeath]

Babe wake up, new Armourer's bench

[@TheArmourersBench]

🙏

[@WanderlustZero]

Ditching these in favour of HK416 was a crime

[@leneanderthalien]

The Best FAMAS was the G2, i did use it in the frnech Navy and realy like it, but objectively, for me, the best bullpup on the market today is the Thales F90 MBR, a evolution from the Steyr AUG who appears ~in same time as the FAMAS in the 70's...The F90 was adopted from the Australian army after the previous version F88

[@WanderlustZero]

@@leneanderthalien People say the reason for losing the FAMAS was the loss of production capacity, but if Thales can build a perfectly good rifle, I don't understand / The Russo-Ukraine war shows the necessity of being able to build for yourself when you can't rely on imports.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@WanderlustZero Globalists are trying to defeat us from within. The US has lost most of our chemical plants due to the EPA so most of our ammo primers and gunpowder actually comes from South America.

[@TheInfekt]

Do you know if the VHS2 is currently being used in Ukraine as well?

[@WanderlustZero]

Helghast bought them all :(

[@killinspecialist1965]

ive seen a few pics of them in ukraine but not in any large numbers

[@EzraeL91]

I was wondering a similar question: has Italy offered AR70/90 to Ukraine since it has recently adopted the ARX160?

[@leneanderthalien]

Ukrainians also use they own bullpup the Malyuk (in 5,45 soviet, 7,92 soviet and 5.56 Nato), based on the AK74 mechanism, first models was not realy optimised (bad selector positon for example), but the most advanced version is now realy good and is use by the Ukrainian special forces...

[@MadDogCommunity]

famas and fnc squad is peak sovl

[@AyzeLYC]

This isn't the Famas but an improvised version that someone ( probably the ukrainians ), the gap between the picatinny rail and the barrel block is much larger than in the video

[@ismaelrecinos5300]

It’s a famas valorisé. The French updated some f1 rifles to add rails.

[@JC.Denton.]

An absolute great firearm that has proven its worth in many battles and was ahead of its time back then. Unfortunately internal politics, the frenchs aversion to NATO and their inability to adapt has lead to its demise and subsequent replacement. Had the french a bit of foresight and updated the rifle to NATO standard (30rnd STANAG, brass cartridges, picantinny rails etc. ) it would still be around. They should have done what the croatians did with the HS VHS2, which ironically was developed as a replacement for all the Famas types. Truly a shame, especially now where gun design has stangnated and every nation just adopts soje form of M4 clone. I hope the ukrainians that use the Famas can atleast get some use out of it.

[@biggie10101]

Hk416 > baguettemas

[@kutter_ttl6786]

What's worse, is that they did have the G2 version that made it more NATO compatible but, aside from the French Marines, it didn't achieve widespread service. And putting flutes on the chamber was apparently an easy fix for the ammo problem but for some reason it was never implemented.

[@Dov4485]

@@kutter_ttl6786 The reason why is pretty well known. The reason is the guns are nearly 50 years old and the company that made them ceased to exist 20 years ago.

[@kaamoshaamu]

Famas is total shitshow. That's why they transferred to 416.

[@yenko5196]

@@kaamoshaamu Hmmm no, they’re changing to the HK because the FAMAS has been at the end of its lifespan for like 10 years…

[@СтёпаЭлектрик]

Винтовка безусловно хорошая, НО, американские винтовки на базе AR-15 и Российские АК, а также аналоги Американских М4 и АК-а - оказались более надёжными. Ну и бельгийские FN FAL тоже оказались хорошими.

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

The FAMAS immediately makes me think of Metal Gear Solid 1 on PS1.

[@chef7658]

i keep thinking of call of duty

[@chillydawgg4354]

Counterstrike source

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

@@chillydawgg4354 i used to play CS Source all the time (Crackhouse, Gungame)…but for some reason I barely remember the FAMAS from it. Weird.

[@BornagainBloodbath]

This is real call of duty this is nuts

[@MrBahjatt]

Just a note, a lot of Ukrainians serve(d) in the French Foreign Legion so no doubt they would be familiar with the FAMAS. With France having replaced the FAMAS in frontline use all the surplus riflea and former Ukrainian FL troops would likely use them. Furthermore the French said something about deploying French troops to Ukraine but they are probably Ukrainians who earned French citizenship after the five year probation period.

[@amauricain]

Hey thanks for the video. Do you have the name of the channel that showcased the FAMAS with the acog?

[@jibcano1777]

@1:26 pot leaf patch?

[@jebise1126]

1:15 combat flip flips?

[@HandyMan657]

Combat Crocs, man. It's the new millennium. 🥸

[@TheArmourersBench]

Wondered who'd notice the crocs first.

[@killzoneisa]

I think i like the early gen model look over the later gen models,

[@petesheppard1709]

'The Bugle'!

[@RynaxAlien]

Can it pierce vatnik standart issue airsoft armor?

[@asterixky]

The F1 is the earlier version of the FAMAS, with the proprietary mags. But Ukraine said, give them to us anyway. As you said, the HK416 is replacing the FAMAS in France, so I would suspect more STANAG compliant FAMAS will be going to Ukraine.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Yes indeed, we might see some more appearing in time.

[@leneanderthalien]

F1 valorisé, compatible with M16 type magazines and Nato 5.56

[@JohnHughesChampigny]

@@leneanderthalien No, still using FFAMAS magazines. Only the F2 uses STANAG magazines.

[@tomleseul]

Not f2, it's g2 for stanag

[@THF117]

The fact some guys can choose their rifle from their armory seems like a big logistical oversight, but you fight with what you got I guess

[@wolfbleue4920]

Génial 🇨🇵❤️🇺🇦

[@gureno19]

Ukraine war is the only one that comes close to a COD game in which every single conceivable small arm from every nation is being fielded simultaneously 😂

[@sergevandyck]

Pour l'avoir utilisé en tant que réservistes , Je trouve que c'est une excellente armes Precise a 200 m avec ses organes de visée. (Oeilleton guidon.) Sa compacité le rend pratique en combat urbain. ( PS. J'ai aussi tiré avec Les fusils Mas 36 Mas 49/56 Frf 1 ( le plus précis même sans lunette) G3.

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

Now they just need steady aim pro and to unlock the m203

[@asterixky]

You have a very good French accent

[@TheArmourersBench]

Haha, thank you, I wish my French teacher in school had thought that!

[@asterixky]

@@TheArmourersBench Il devait etre Anglais lol

[@TMFShooting]

Another Great Video ' 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@frankopanklaric]

So holosun's are good to go. Nice to know.

[@TheArmourersBench]

They're battle tested...

[@vitoscaletta7151]

You can say your build is Ukraine clone correct lol

[@stevenseibel9216]

i love that particular one with its massive optic futuristic as fuck

[@johnfrost1814]

This war will bring many interesting things into future. For example the war accelerated acception of sights into Russian army, people went from: -oh, Ivan, conscripts will break it to -a usable optics? Yeah please! Also interesting to see what happens with captured arms, I already saw that a lot of NATO rifles are taken into Chechen forces or into PMC groups (often the buy civilian versions and somehow transport it into Russia).

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

Ukraine will be giving just about every western arms manufacturer a report card at the end of the year.

[@baneofbanes]

The quote like the CZ Bren from what I’ve seen.

[@zorgius]

I didn't know FAMAS was French, cool!

[@paladro]

what works might come down to what is available at the time.

[@joshmeads]

Have the Canadian C7/C8 rifles been seen in Ukraine? Canada has sent over 30,000 Colt Canada rifles.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Will have a video on what I think are those rifles soon. I need to finish a couple of others first.

[@joshmeads]

@@TheArmourersBench looking forward to it. 30,000 rifles is def nothing to sneeze at.

[@speclove1]

looks like we are all friends now

[@tehw000000t]

I love the FAMAS. It's just cool.

[@battin42]

Has there been any sightings of the Shak-12?

[@TheArmourersBench]

I've seen one perhaps two sightings, and not for a while.

[@snudger2511]

Congratulations on the 100k subscribers.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Thank you!

[@9HoleReviews]

“Hi squad leader, trade you 3x Anderson for one St Etienne. Throw in horooooo sun for your trouble.” - Cousin Harry

[@TheArmourersBench]

H-Sun combat chops confirmed.

[@fireflyredux3373]

Screw the FAMAS, that FN FNC is a beauty

[@TheArmourersBench]

I know! I need to do a video on them. MSBS Grot first though, the MSBS mob will kill me otherwise.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@TheArmourersBench MSBS master race. The Desert Tech MDR is better but before that was out, I really liked the MSBS as it really pulled the design from Magpul's PDW which never got a firearm release due to issues with Bushmaster.

[@TheKsalad]

Man what the hell was France thinking with those proprietary magazines they're literally right smack in the middle of NATO countries

[@jarink1]

The French copy no one and no one copies the French

[@chasespeer251]

Every since the end of the war France has had a stick up their backside about all things military. As far as I am aware, they went with those proprietary mags out of stubbornest as the most obvious solution would be to use the same mag as the rest of NATO

[@billm2078]

The French are stupid when it comes to weapons design.

[@leneanderthalien]

The FAMAS was designed for M193, BEFORE the adoption from the definitive Nato SS109 ammo, this is the real cause from this probleme, but the older Famas with proprietary magazines and steel cases are scraped or improved (new barell and magazine attachment) to be compatible with M16 type magazines (Famas valorisé, Felin or surbaissé) or Stanag curved magazines (Famas G2)

[@chemcom276]

We use Famas since the 70’s, when Germans used G3, Italians the BM59, Brits the FAL…. Nobody used stanag mags in EU 50 years ago, because there were probably NO stanag mags during this period.

[@Adam-jt3fk]

wonder what rifle the french trained and equiped battalion will recieve

[@CDNR711]

If they get the navel version which uses AR mags as it was a compatibility request/requirement laid out by the Naval Commandos.

[@saltykrug]

You would think there has to be some simple way to modify the gun to use regular ole STANAG mags so that way the proprietary ones would not be such a pain in the ass. The Croatian VHS-2 ought to be obtainable in that area. I have the civvy version of the VHS, the Springfield Hellion and I love that gun. The trigger isn't near as bad as other bullpup rifles.

[@pluemas]

There is. Theres a modification package to the FAMAS called the G2 that gives is a lower that takes STANAG magazines. They are, for french reason, quite rare.

[@lougrims]

The French Navy had a kit for that but IIRC it was quite rare.

[@leneanderthalien]

@@lougrims The FAMAS G2 from the french Navy is not a kit but a specific version...Other versions still in service are F1 valorisés or similar, compatible to M16 magazines and Nato 5.56, older versions F1's are scrapped ...

[@hyperbeast5717]

What gloves are being worn in 4:34 ?

[@youngdenard264]

Get a life

[@michaelguerin56]

Thank you.

[@adam_ic]

As a reservist in the french army i still use the famas to this day, its a beautiful weapon really compact and precise

[@impcec6734]

Ian McCollum has entered that chat

[@farhanhashmi2705]

I'm starting to believe that this influx of so many different kinds of weapons, along with this conflict, will create a gun culture in Ukraine similar to that in the US.

[@Rashed1255]

Why weren’t they given the G2 variants?

[@zepedrofd]

Probably as they are not yet surplus rifles, the transition to the 416 is not complete.

[@alexandrelarsac9115]

the G2 variant was only in use in the French Navy. So in a much fewer number than in French Army. Those are also replaced with HK416.

[@vitoscaletta7151]

They really didn't make very many G2s

[@Liam1991]

I would be interested to know how the Ukrainian military decides decides which regiments are distributed with foreign weapons. I would also be interested to know which rifle the majority of the soldiers prefer to use. I've just recently come across a Ukrainian KZbinr. He seems to have access to all kinds of weapons. On his latest rifle video, he claims the SCAR-L is the best rifle so far. He prefers this rifle over the AK-74, Bren 2, and Daniel Defence. I'm quite surprised considering the The SCAR-L's reputation is not very well received

[@Raul-ns5up]

Another Cold War classic ❤

[@UltraPatate]

1:33 This one is a CIVILIAN FAMAS, because there are no "cannelures" on the end of the barrel, this is used to check distances to send grenades by inserting it in the barrel(Grenade AP-AV40)

[@chemcom276]

Non, c’est un Famas « Felin » avec le nouveau canon fabriqué par Beretta.

[@UltraPatate]

@@chemcom276 AH interessant merci de l'info

[@AndyWoohoo666]

Le Clairon, had it for 5 yrs when I served in the Legion...love that gun. Edit: I know it's not called Le Clairon in the legion just saying it's nickname.

[@alexandrelarsac9115]

Nobody calls it le Clarion in the legion. You're full or it. "Clarion" is not even a French word. A real légionnaire would know it.

[@AndyWoohoo666]

@@alexandrelarsac9115 I did not say it was called that in the legion. It was nicknamed that before I got in the legion. 1REC 3esc 88-93 mle 176-0XX

[@LuluBear974]

​@@alexandrelarsac9115Hello troll! I'm french. CLAIRON is a French word. Of course is you Google it well spelled... not CLARION! What a troll you are in all ways possible!

[@sgtjarhead99]

Doesn't surprise me that many nations upgrading to new weapons systems would be "gifting" it's old armament to Ukraine and similar countries that they want to build good will with. With Ukraine however, they seem to have a zillion different small arms of all eras and calibers right now. I'm sure they're happy to have whatever they can get their hands on, but I can't imagine how much of a logistical nightmare that must be in regards to ammunition, spare parts, etc..

[@intelprointelpro4452]

J'ai utilisé le FAMAS pendant des années, c'est une arme excellente mais il faut éviter de tirer plus de trois chargeurs de suite en rafale libre car le canon chauffe beaucoup et devient bleu. Cette arme est très compacte (bulle pup) et on peut éjecter les douilles à droite ou à gauche en inversant l'extracteur et l'éjecteur ainsi que la protection en plastique de la crosse. C'est intéressant pour un tireur gaucher. Très peu d'incidents de tir et très bonne précision grâce au bipied, tir tendu jusqu'à 300 mètres et possibilité de tirer des grenades à fusil. La possibilité de tirer des rafales de 3 coups évite de vider un chargeur trop vite et de disperser inutilement ses tirs.

[@leneanderthalien]

oui, vu l'énorme cadence de tir, ça chauffe en rafale continue, mais en combat personne ne gaspille ses munitions de cette façon: pour ça il y a des armes spécifiques comme la FN Minimi, qui n'est pas un modèle de fiabilité (usure rapide) d'où son prochain remplacement par une arme plus moderne et plus légère

[@Mike-yy4ll]

So, STANAGs don't work at all in FAMAS? Do FAMAS 25 rounders work in other rifles?

[@pluemas]

No, they are proprietary to the FAMAS. There is a modification package called G2 which allows FAMAS to use STANAG magazines, but they're quite rare.

[@Mike-yy4ll]

@@pluemas What about ammo compatibility? Can it use brass cased or steel only?

[@gawkthimm6030]

@@Mike-yy4ll he talks about that in the video...

[@Mike-yy4ll]

@@gawkthimm6030 He only talks about 55 grains and 77 grains, smartass.

[@LuluBear974]

​@@Mike-yy4llthey can use all! Steel case are only used because they are cheap.

[@MakintheMeats]

So cool. They should issue ten magazines with each rifle, its really hard to run out of ammo if you have ten mags

[@SuspiciousGanymede]

I've seen soldiers go through 10 mags in an hour or two in an actual gunfight. Having to reload using boxed ammunition is a royal PITA

[@johnfrost1814]

I talked with a guy that served in the soviet army during the afghan war, I am pretty much sure he would say that ten mags are nothing. Also saw a video of a Russian that fought in the early stages of the war, he said that soldiers would often use dozens of under-barrel grandes, hand grenades, and hundreds of bullets in one fight. The soldier stated that he used around 12-14 hand grenades and one RShG (РШГ) to clear a house, and they would clear dozens of them as a unit....

[@kutter_ttl6786]

What is this, WW1?

[@MakintheMeats]

@@kutter_ttl6786 sort of.

[@aethertech]

It will be interesting to see what Ukraine standardizes on after Russia is kicked in the balls and out of all of Ukraine. The FAMAS is probably to expensive overall to be their standard issue post-war. BUT it is a good firearm in some situations, such as driver pdw for vehicles, or rear-line guard duty.

[@peabase]

The FAL, a full-blown battle rifle, good as a PDW? I served in the mechanised infantry, and it was a pain getting in and out of IFVs with that big lug. You must mean the FAMAS. Not exactly a PDW either, but a big improvement over the FAL.

[@aethertech]

@@peabase yes, sorry, FAMAS

[@baneofbanes]

Probably a either a homegrown design or a something licensed form the Czechs or Poles due to their close relationships with them. Almost certainly in 5.56 and taking stanags.

[@OgOssman]

Not really surprised, this war has brought out almost every weapon you can think of,

[@blacknote6945]

Gun Jesus looking at it: *weeps a tear*

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

isnt there a famas version that accepts stanags?

[@felinvirginia1]

It's a FAMAS Felin based on the G2 configuration of the 1990's. So basically a FAMAS able to work with classic 5,56 NATO ammo Weird that he is not able to take the STANAG mag of his comrades as the G2 is STANAG compatible

[@TheArmourersBench]

It isn't a G2, it's an F1 Valorise which didn't add the mag conversion.

[@FrauFitzer]

I am a member of 128th brigade and I do confirm that we have a few Famases. But only a few.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Thank you for sharing that! I've no idea how Ukrainian logistics decides where things go. They do seem to have been spread round in small numbers.

[@FrauFitzer]

@@TheArmourersBench we just use what we we’re issued with. Some of us would rather choose to get a brand new ak, mainly because of ammunition

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@FrauFitzer absolutely makes sense, ammunition is key. Helps the AK is a familiar platform too.

[@FrauFitzer]

@@TheArmourersBench in addition, when I mentioned a “brand new ak” - it’s never a Russian ak-12. I tried it, it performs well but as soon as you leave without cleaning after shooting, it gets rusty immediately. Much worse than soviet ak or any AR-15 I tried. Almost nobody talks about that, but the quality of metal in Russian ak-s are absolute crap.

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@FrauFitzer that's really useful info, I'd heard that the AK-12s had rust issues with the gas system being hard to clean too. I'd like to do a video on AK-12 use in Ukraine.

[@ptonpc]

I wonder what the burn out rate for Ukrainian logistic and supply personnel is?

[@Demane69]

The ones profiteering by selling massive amounts of equipment off likely love it and stick around. It's pure corruption over there.

[@christopherwang4392]

5:24 to 5:50 Is there any evidence of Ukrainian soldiers using the FAMAS G2? Unlike the F1, the G2 has a redesigned magwell and magazine catch so it could accept 30-round STANAG magazines.

[@TheArmourersBench]

No evidence of G2s being in country at the moment, just the partially refit F1 Valorise so far.

[@masterbaiter9856]

NATO: alright lets standardize. France: Yes, on OUR magazine.

[@petesheppard1709]

'The French imitate no one*, and no one imitates the French' *Well, until 2016...

[@chemcom276]

Maybe because we use this mag since 50 years now, before the stanag on 5.56 mags

[@BigMakBattleBlog]

There about, seen one, but its still probably 98% AKs

[@justinbellio2285]

That Famas was not being tested by the "armed forces", it was being tested by the "Arm" forces

[@dadinkle]

Engagement. Comments, likes.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Every little helps. Thanks for watching!

[@krow7402]

As an American, I would like a FAMAS. Are we not a friendly nation? Is our Government OF the people? The people demand FAMAS.

[@mmmmburgerz9442]

You have your law makers to blame for that one, especially this administration. There’s maybe 400 FAMAS’s in the US and they call for a hefty price when found. After playing Ghost Recon and FEAR games as a kid, I always wanted the FAMAS or HK SL8. Hell, I’d quit my job and become a arms dealer to obtain a G11 or any rare gun.

[@krow7402]

@@mmmmburgerz9442 Man, if you could get a G11, you could quit your job and just live on what you could make selling it. I first learned about the G11 from Delta Force 2 way back in 2004-ish. My love of the FAMAS comes from Metal Gear Solid.

[@chemcom276]

I don’t know how to explain this simply, but we signed a threat, Non proliferation armes petit calibre, we don’t sell weapons to civilians, only state to state. That’s stupid indeed, we could sell a bunch of old Famas to US, instead of destroying them.

[@baneofbanes]

Blame American importation laws.