[ENG SUB/Hololive] Nanashi Mumei & Hakos Baelz - The reason why Mumei is banned from Coffee

[@ssrbgangimaribotan6thofthe12]

by the way baelz said "half-life" not "have live", kinda like radiation half-life, to describe how long caffeine effect will stay on mumei.

[@thearrowclipper]

Ah no wonder I feel really off there, thanks for the info, I learn something new today(English is not my 1st language). Noted and pinned

[@Y10HK29]

half life reference from gen 2, maybe we will have another one from gen 3.....oh wait

[@bearhugger3412]

@@Y10HK29 kalm buddy. This yago we talkin about. Not the infamous other ceo (or developer). Or maybe.......

[@thearrowclipper]

Noted, sorry for being uncultured😥

[@norm7312]

@Джеймс Буржуа Why tf would you reccomend Mein Kampf. Out of all the german books out there you chose the book Adolf Hitler wrote.

[@emp100k]

I love how Bae keeps calling Mumei "This little one" She's bigger than you...

[@amuraiyalena8929]

Cause chaos exist way before civilisation or anything else. Bae the real grandma

[@originalmei]

The chaos is bigger than anyone this form means nothing

[@moonlightning8269]

Mumei has big “little one” vibes

[@CJODell12]

Bae is smol (149 cm/4’11”) and IMHO the cutest of the HoloCouncil members

[@Kazuk1787]

I think Bayonetta's quotes are rubbing off on her

[@Puffleman24]

Bae lore: *I BRING CHAOS* Bae after meeting Council: *I BRING LESS CHAOS*

[@akiradkcn]

HoloFantasy: Cofee of Paradise

[@netyimeni169]

She is controlling chaos not bringing it

[@BlazeLibra]

@@netyimeni169 How does one control chaos

[@The-Branch]

@@BlazeLibra Do whatever Baelz does clearly-

[@BlazeLibra]

@@The-Branch _but chaos is inherently out of control_

[@wolfhrt21]

Whoa, is this what Kronii perhaps was trying to warn us about? Maybe a cranky, sleep deprived Mumei is the "waiting-to-snap" side of her we don't want to see.

[@wolfhrt21]

I dunno, Ame might be one of those who hit a moment of enlightenment when sleep deprived. Mumei might hope to end all civilization and wipe the slate clean if she gets that sleep deprived honestly.

[@xero7113]

@あんさつのしょーぐんAssassin Shogun and Kaichou's sleeping-pill stream where she commentates on herself being high and weird not trying to fall asleep

[@MaiconDouglas-ik6qs]

Owls hunt at night

[@MaiconDouglas-ik6qs]

@@wolfhrt21 makes sense, I mean... She may start to Rember somethings... And then *_SNAP_*

[@icestick3]

@@MaiconDouglas-ik6qs and usually hunts rodents like rats for food

[@QRenjo]

It is just more evidence that for a "Chaos", Bae is really orderly. She puts the rule, and basically lead her far chaotic friends in Council in each collab.

[@notme69]

There's no order without chaos

[@fernando4959]

She controls chaos so it makes sense

[@FiredAndIced]

@@notme69 "No chaos, no order. No chaos, no order, order, order."

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

Organized Chaos

[@luke_fabis]

A god giveth and a god taketh away. Baelz is the goddess of chaos, but that doesn’t mean her goal is to spread it helter-skelter. She’s surgical in the way she plants the seeds of chaos.

[@prinzouji]

well yes, lacks of sleep is not good for your health. i like how everyone is agreed to protect our cute owl even with her Hololive members to give her best health advice

[@DiggitySlice]

What?

[@TheRealRidley12]

Update from rat two years later: The coffee ban isn't working very well. 😆

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Mumei is Pandemonica confirmed. "I feel crazy" is just rephrasing "I crave violence" in cute tone.

[@jessepeterson6694]

Hakos: There's a reason why I banned this little one from coffee. Audience: why's that? Hakos: Here Mumei. Mumei: ....Um okay.... you're not gonna like this. (Drinking coffee)..........BUCKLE UP CAUSE THIS NIGHT OWL'S READY TO PARTY!!

[@Bluecho4]

Mumei: * Takes One Sip * Mumei: o_o Mumei: 0_0 Mumei: "IT BEGINS."

[@torresshawk]

@@Bluecho4 *5 days later* I haven't slept for 5 days because you all asked why I can't drink coffee. So this is your fault that I can't sleep

[@zorohibiki]

"owls high on caffeine" is how some of my friends described themselves when i was on college (coffee destroys my stomach so i used tea and chocolate instead) and one of them had a similar lasting effect like mumei so more or less i have a vague idea of how mumei is when she drinks coffee if it is what i think let me tell you that bae have good reasons to be afraid and when the caffeine finally wears off is not pretty either

[@Weremole]

Caffeine withdrawal headaches are terrible. It's not even that hangover intensity, it's this vague unease around your temples that not even water can fix.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

There's something magical about Bae talking down to someone who is taller than her, but it somehow also makes sense because Mumei is, well, Mumei. Also, this is what happens when you're a nocturnal animal, so you're active at night, but also a human, who is active in the day. So she's _always_ up.

[@Lushyy557]

Good for mumei lasting 15 hours caffeinated. In my case, coffee literally works the opposite. Instead of waking me up, it made me feel sleepy and tired.

[@CptSourcebird]

I'm guessing it's from the "crash" you get from coffee. It may happen earlier than normal, I get that too years back.

[@tsukikage3941]

Yeah, I have a similar problem too. I've tried using coffee (even Redbull and Monster) to stay awake, but they seem to have like no effect on me at all. Granted I've never tried black coffee since I'm not a fan and would rather go to sleep than to drink something I don't like, but yeah.

[@xccelizer4408]

Nice comrade who shares the same fate

[@scarecrow2627]

I also like that, drinking warm coffee after rush hour it's calm me down and sometimes i find my self sleep on my desk

[@bretginn1419]

Same. It's odd though. Sometimes caffeine helps keep me up and awake, sometimes it helps me rest and relax.

[@raken69]

wow! i wish my coffee can last 15hrs... my coffee just helps prepare in the morning then take a nap in the office lol

[@sejama6625]

Wow, coffee just makes me even more sleepy or more distracted from work.

[@tienatle805]

it's pretty dangerous since long-effect caffeine will harm to your body super negatively Anyway, i always drink coffee before sleep ~~

[@DelphinSquared]

For some reason if you take caffeine before you sleep your body does fall asleep more easily. Does for me.

[@jaywiay]

I can only drink coffee when I'm energetic, if I get coffee when I'm sleepy it doesn't help me at all and I would just get stuck at this weird state where I'm still sleepy but my heart is pounding really hard and it's super uncomfortable.

[@raken69]

@@tienatle805 well i work in the office for 8am to 6pm so need for me to drink coffee by 2pm if i had mumei's coffee

[@domskie9297]

Perhaps a side-effect of her needing to stay alert during her perennial travels?

[@ChonchI64]

now I need to see the sleep deprived caffeinated Mumei

[@thearrowclipper]

*inserting boss music

[@yourforeignlocal]

Night Owl on Caffeine = Too much crazy for Chaos

[@thenumberquelve158]

The rat calling the owl "little one" is just precious. And in direct violation of nature, but I'm sure Ceres will allow it this time.

[@thearrowclipper]

Within the span over 6 Hours, This clip alone have brought me over 1k hours public watch hours and 100+ new friends. I truly grateful to this community m(_ _)m

[@velvetra29]

*insert We Will Watch Your Career With Great Interest meme here* You're doing great, dude. Thank you for clipping, spreading the joy of a rabbit hole called hololive. May you become one of the best clipper, stay away from clickbait-y titles & thumbnails, or even worse clipping sensitive moments. There are some clippers known for their ignorance to clip sensitive things like the girls' leaked Steam ID / other sensitive information (which later on the VOD was removed). Don't ever be that low just for views. Good luck!

[@thearrowclipper]

Yes thank you very much for the support m(_ _)m, I'm also planning to clip indie and other agencies since I don't want to be Hololive-only clipper. There're still a lot of hidden gems in this vast community. I just want to spread the positivity just like what Kaichou left for us. once again, I'm truly grateful for this community 🙏

[@hmshand5392]

m(oo)m

[@shad3revo111]

She's like the opposite of me, caffeine calms me down and can actually make me sleepy.

[@tsukinoyuki]

Imagine the smallest one among your peers calls your body little.

[@nulnoh219]

the possibilities... Endurance stream with Mumei! Then superchat reading after the effects wears off.

[@NebbyNebberson]

@@DBT1007 This sounds like the perfect excuse for Mumei to master MC for her revenge against Shork. Killing 2 birds with 1 stone

[@iamabird6739]

Ok that's it idc what people say. Bae is the leader of the council. She took care of everyone and she keep order

[@RichyArg]

as someone who's drank coffee since i was a kid, and drinks it at all times of day several times a day, i really can't understand how it affects people so much

[@SubjectiveObserver]

The question is, do you get deep quality sleep at night? And can you focus calmly on a single difficult problem and think critically about a solution without your mind wavering or bouncing to a different topic?

[@zebra_ecstasy5772]

Funny how the rat calls the owl "little one"

[@amuraiyalena8929]

Just an owl and a rat having a friendly conversation over the effect of caffeine on the owl's body. Also you dont want to meet the owl at night, the rat has experience it first hand and its a miracle she survive

[@Kamui32]

Is that why we jumped from Sword and Shields to Gun and Nukes so fast. Mumei took caffeine during the 1100s and still going now in the 2000s

[@zikyy860]

Mumei: "you dont want to cross paths with me at night" Me: "who?"

[@velvetra29]

Coffee has lost its magic for me. In college days, i can stay up almost the whole day with only a cup of coffee. Now, the only thing coffee did to me is rumbly tummy and racing heart beat lmao.

[@thearrowclipper]

I understand that feel too bro, I understand 😣

[@StarSonata10]

Oh gosh is that normal? I'm glad someone else mention that. Im also getting racing heart beat and feels like anxious always, plus tired. I thought it has something to do with the coffee brand i bought.

[@cooperdroid]

when you try to caffeinate yourself and just end up increasing your heart rate while remaining exhausted

[@velvetra29]

@@StarSonata10 Yes, that's what caffeine do to our body. I guess people have their own "caffeine tolerance", and in our case, our tolerance are low.

[@ThishandlefeatureISdumb]

@@velvetra29 I think you have that the other way around. You have high tolerance. Drink too much caffeine too often and it doesn’t do anything anymore. It like many addictive drugs need increased dosages to chase the same high after getting used to it.

[@imaencuru]

It's kinda wild how wide the range of 'caffiene effectiveness' is, for me it doesn't do anything and then an hour or two later I get super tired, and for Mumei it apparently magically animates her for 15+ hours

[@friskyhearttryhardus3283]

Yeah, that's why I quit coffee myself, at one point it literally has zero effect on me, also if I miss my daily coffee I develop terrible headaches. Now I only drink coffee when I absolutely need to stay awake. At the end of a day, it's a drug and I'm going to treat it with the same level of respecc other drugs command.

[@SubjectiveObserver]

I wish I heard this from more people. I suspect caffeine has a stronger effect on people than they realize. Most people assume it gives you ~4 hours of energy followed by a crash, and then you're back to normal by evening. But even if you don't feel the buzz, it can stay in your system and affect the quality of your sleep. Whenever I hear people say they have trouble sleeping because their anxiety keeps them awake thinking about all their problems and regrets, I wonder if its actually caffeine, not a natural anxiety. And all the people who have trouble focusing on complicated problems, struggle with "brain fog", or bounce around like ADHD. How many of them are just dealing with a caffeine addiction and don't realize it?

[@Bluecho4]

If Caffeine had been discovered in, say, the 80s, it absolutely would have been a controlled substance. Like alcohol, Caffeine got grandfathered in, as far as societal and legal acceptance goes.

[@markcharron2254]

«Mumei is very affected by coffee». Oh well, i was thinking she had a ADHD at first but if coffee is very effective on her, i am sure she is not now.

[@adrianaslund8605]

In Sweden's 1700's we had this brilliant scientist named Swedenborg and when he found coffee he began drinking bucketfuls of it and he ended up staying up so long that he apparently became a psychic who could see angels and spirits. So yeah hell of a thing coffee..

[@Anugrah_Amriza]

I feel Mumei in a personal level because that's what caffeine did to me too but It just makes me not sleep for the rest of the day

[@ShirakamiHaru]

I am the plain of existence where coffee doesn't get me energized nor sleepy so basically i drink coffee as water

[@himitsukeisatsu8247]

I never drink coffee most of my life but when I tried to drink once I got shortness of breath and shaking so after that I never drank coffee again, It was unpleasant.

[@athalladzaky6847]

Mumei dring a coffee : *woke up for 15 hours long straight Me dring a coffee : "Woah, why i'm sleepy wtf" *then i'm sleep 5 minutes after drinking it

[@kururusoucho]

Bael is the smallest one but Mumei is the baby

[@azusagawasakuta2787]

the caffeine in my person does nothing but make me sleepy

[@jackknight1899]

Bae: “Why won’t you sleep?” Mumei: “Caffein, Son”

[@OutdatedLeon]

...did Mumei drink a triple shot espresso? A 15-hour effect is really wild...!

[@shadowshedinja6124]

From what Mumei said in a different stream caffeine in general lasts about twice as long. Tea, soda, and coffee all have that effect.

[@SirElderock]

or maybe her body naturally has a very low tolerance to caffeine different bodies have different natural tolerances to different substances.

[@shivermaw5913]

alternate persona "Night Owl Mumei" confirmed

[@Cruzin105]

Wow, Bae really narrowing it down to timezones…

[@thunderslap21]

It feels like a mom talking about her daughters weird habit especially with her calling her "this little one" 😂

[@snows2211]

I mean, Owls are true apex predators at night, surely you wouldn't want to cross paths with Mumei at night

[@anthonperez2531]

I switch between caff and decaff, I’ve basically conditioned myself to taste of coffee waking me up rather than the caffeine itself and when I do need the extra boost it’s effective.

[@mimicinabox2547]

And here i am, drinking probably 3-5 large cup a day and will still sleep like a log...

[@tsjeriAu]

Same. Been like this since I started drinking coffee a decade ago, also same with energy drinks, they never did have noticeable effect on me. Energy drinks just make me sick so I stick to plain black coffee because it tastes good. Meanwhile one of my sisters is like Mumei, can't drink coffee past noon or so or she cannot sleep.

[@mimicinabox2547]

@@tsjeriAu Some say it's the build-up immunity from taking caffeine for godknowshowlong, combined with my bad sleeping hours/habit (i sleep at 00 or 1 AM and woke up at 4-4.30 AM normaly) and work hours (used to work at a company in creative industries, and freelancing atm). The only thing that could make me awake for long is a strong espresso, even then i rarely drink it - only when i need to.

[@kiel_doesntplay]

Okay ......note to self. Never give gift her coffee or anything that has caffeine in it...

[@thearrowclipper]

Night Mode Mumei sounds really scary

[@arcstar8337]

What do you mean never this just raises my curiosity for night mode mumei

[@spacecore6000]

At 2:02 i'm pretty certain Bae is saying "Night Owl Mumei-shi is scary"

[@ListersHatsune]

I know that feel. I once went camping and a friend said "hey you've had only 3 hours of sleep last night! Have this energy drink" and I proceeded to get 1 hour of sleep that night.

[@1011約束]

During my senior years, I was always sleep deprived because of the countless research papers i need to prepare. The only thing that kept me going was drinking coffee. Now i kinda regret it because i no longer feel any of the caffeine effects, i even fall asleep even after drinking one.

[@MillisecondFourthClockhand]

The Silent Assassin really is scary at night.

[@stayhumble-.-]

Forcing an owl to be diurnal is terrifying.. …the fact that you don’t want to deal with our owl at night? *Mortifying*

[@mohamadarieffakri5140]

Now i just want her to have a caffeinated stream. Danggit

[@No-uc6fg]

If she drinks coffee she will rember.

[@MirrorOfEmotions]

Mumei in an anime in the end of a boss fight: It doesn't help. It seems I have no other choice ! *drinks a cup of coffee* Bae: NOOOOOOOO! Don't do this Mumei! Fauna: Damn! DAMN! And I thought I could protect her of this! I'm sorry Mumei.... The endboss very confused:? *get smashed by an coffee Mumei* This..... Is..... ridiculous! Wha..? Mumei: Damn. What shall I do now. Haaah.

[@juon91]

I'm so related to her. Sometimes I have to drink coffee at noon because some coworkers bought me one, and then I can fall asleep like 4-5 a.m. it is a literal pain to my body. I ask others please don't give me any caffeine beverages but sometimes it is inevitable and I curse every one of my country who are so addictive to coffee.

[@DDragon501]

You fools! This only makes us want to see caffeine Mumei even MORE!

[@yafethtb]

Only in this moment you can see a mouse and an owl interacting peacefully.

[@Zerothehedgehog69]

I relate to Mumei so much in this clip. I can't drink coffee after 2pm or i can't sleep at all. Yet i still don't go to bed until 2 in the morning. I too am a night owl and proud of it.😊

[@Zanguinem]

Caffeine doesn't wake me up but if I don't drink at least a cup a day I get a headache. Sugar on the other hand, that shit makes me stay up for hours

[@MisterTwit]

Mumei is just like me, if I drink any caffeine after noon I'm up until daybreak tomorrow

[@AeryelleCat]

Even baelz says she's scary. Thats scary. I kinda want to see it now.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Meanwhile, I've been drinking coffee since I was a kid, and the buzz barely lasts an hour anymore before I crash.

[@diniza]

Caffeine don't even work on me and I once drink 5 tins of red bull in 1 day

[@bluenostalgia8399]

Owl on caffeine = rage mode

[@Sunnyshadez2292]

I cannot function without a cup of coffee in the morning, one time my mom banned me from taking one and for the next few days I looked like a person that escaped a mental asylum and is craving violence

[@asuha4578]

mumei reminds me of my friend, i gave him a bottle of coffee, that doesn't affect me at all, but for him, it makes him awake for the entire night till the morning comes, i gave that coffee to him if i'm not mistaken around 6 or 7 pm

[@kingmisery3560]

me who drink coffee and still can't sleep: i am the ancestor of owl

[@shiro6233]

"Little one's body" Uhhh Bae.. Actually nvm

[@pentapenta1600]

If only my coffee can last that much, I dont even drink coffee that much and shit never lasted more than 1hour

[@shiroisekai_20]

mumei smol confirmed

[@jameskaiser99]

I take a cup of coffee before I sleep and it was a good deep sleep...

[@phucnguyenhong4564]

Whe the hell that mumei keep reminding me of pandemonica in helltaker!!!

[@Reaper-ds6do]

:) I drink 8 cups of coffee around 1-2pm but damn I feel sleepy when I got home Its around 3 or 4pm

[@Nax_uthala]

Now I just want to hear sleepy Mumei cuteness

[@paulwhiterabbit]

from some yt video I watched, too much caffeine can dissolve your muscle tissues. also, it delays drowsiness. when caffeine wears out, all the accumulated drowsiness hit me like a truck. I also ban myself from caffeine in order to stop depending on it.

[@Aquitanic]

Well now we know why she's an owl! She's nocturnal!

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Relatable. Two cups of coffee during the evening and no problem sleeping. Used to be like Mumie getting no sleep at all.

[@ericquiabazza2608]

We it depend of the type of coffe and preparation. A ack coffee has a lot of Caffeine, a late has a moderate amount, a cheap insta is mostly sugar. I wod recommend a "Tear", is an Argentinian preparation, only 10% coffe

[@Noobnormality]

We can say society is bad and chaotic, but you cannot deny that the outcome is a precious Mumei.

[@PhantorumPrime117]

I bet the dark version of Mumei is really just Reaper from Overwatch

[@whazzup_teacup]

That's why I usually don't drink coffee after 4pm. I'd be fine with 1 cup but I don't want to use a coffee maker for that small amount so I usually make/drink 3-4 cups at once.

[@bluedragon219123]

And here I am not drinking coffee because I don't like the taste. I think I ever only drunk 1 whole cup of coffee in my entire 30, so far, year old life. :)

[@Forbidden_Chocolate]

same, thats why i like tea more than coffee, tea gives me a small boost while coffee keeps me awake for like 30 hrs

[@Eragonnogare]

I don't need no coffee to find myself staying up till like 6am! (I write this at like 2:30am with no intentions of getting in bed particularly soon)

[@Eragonnogare]

Update: it is now 6am. I am still not in bed.

[@zarichexernav.zehldd638]

Baelz is the Leader of the Council... And she Shackled Mumei's NightOwl AlterEgo by banning Coffee, but Even Chaos itself is Scared of Mumei,,, even the Yandere of the group Fauna is wary of Mumei.. let her Forgor and Reboot from time to time... The Council failed the moment this Birb started Remembering...

[@Bigslam1993]

Mumei is relatable. Very relatable. Source: I type this at 4 am

[@InstantShiningW]

a rat crossing paths with an owl at night? what could go wrong

[@Linkingx2]

Ah okay well the thing is I do that shit without coffee or energy... Wake up at 4am for work -> live the day -> play league till 2am -> Repeat and yes I hate my life

[@EternalInfernape]

Even Baelz is afraid!

[@SwagLordJohnJohn]

Night Mumei vs Gawr book it Yagoo!!!

[@freequest]

Yes good proper ground coffee is about 12+ hours why I only drink one cup in the morning and one at lunch anymore and I cant sleep.

[@imaginebreaker1085]

Me when I was a teenager. Got to uni, coffee lost 4/5 of its magic, can only make me stay awake for 3 hours. Nowadays, the only effect coffee has on me is hyperacidity.

[@wolfie-_-ranger7932]

I want to see what a more wild Mumei would be like, but caffeine is real strong.

[@WilliamShinal]

I deal with this shit WITHOUT caffeine.

[@RailgunCyclops]

so Mumei will be the Korone of HoloEN hm? endurance streams gunna be crazy

[@coolice5786]

A chill version of korone

[@justin.g25]

Wow, caffeine does literally nothing to me. I drank a cup at 7pm and slept at 10 or 11pm. I guess the effects lasts about 4-5 hours for most people.

[@GCJACK83]

I wanna give Mumei coffee. Just sneak it in some chocolate.

[@rayanderson5797]

Well a rat certainly wouldn't want to cross paths with an owl at night...

[@1003JustinLaw]

It's okay, I have an owl net

[@juliospezziadesouza]

Meanwhile, i drink a whole jar and still feel nothing :)