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[@canderson5098]

It's great being able to live my life without having to force myself to believe that Noah's Ark was a real thing that happened.

[@qwadratix]

Or trying to pretend that somehow it doesn't matter that it's plainly nonsense.

[@johnmeyn8802]

The real story of life on earth id written in stone. We are related to all life.

[@cy-one]

@@johnmeyn8802 we're also all related to stars, because physics!

[@Apologetic231]

@@canderson5098 well its more great without having to force myself nothing brought everything into existence

[@Apologetic231]

​@@cy-oneso Stars are Humans and Humans are Stars 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@amontrealpaul226]

At the time Genesis was written, it was a safe assumption that no one was living past 120 years. In fact, most people didn't even live half that long.

[@zatoichiMiyamoto]

The genesis account for world creation is a later adoption borrowing from babilónic myth through sincretism.

[@mikenike97L6]

reminder that the measurement of a day was about 12 hours, and the "calendar" was 360 Days. In short, they were saying that no one was living past 60 years old today, based on what they considered a day back then.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

They usually died in their 40s badk then if they made it that far

[@amtlpaul]

Apparently, the median lifespan was in the high 30s or low 40s, but remember that that is impacted by the exceedingly high infant mortality rate. This means some folks did live to a fairly ripe old age, although most didn't.

[@Captain101-x1o]

@@mikenike97L6 measurement of a day was 12 hours and a night was 12 hours. The calendar was the lunar calendar so 354 days and nights. I.e 354 sunrises and sunsets. So almost exactly the same as it is today - we just invented the leap year and standard time to tidy things up.

[@Adam.Langton]

"No scientist or wise theologian has ever demonstrated this, but allow me, who came up with this on my own with zero knowledge of history, science, or philosophy, to expound from my basement." World, get ready to be changed forever. Haha

[@septixskeptix1107]

Don't forget that he's also working on proving Noah's Ark. I'll bet he's pretty close now. 😂

[@tcrown3333]

​@septixskeptix1107 Noah's arse existed. Just saying...

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

​@@septixskeptix1107 Any day now!!!😁

[@johnthecloud]

@@Adam.Langton the world has been changed on less...

[@Adam.Langton]

@johnthecloud You're conflating visionaries and people who believe in magic over science. It's not the same thing.

[@SSJ3Mewtwo]

This was someone who called in with a list of preplanned responses that he was going to say regardless of whether they actually fit the discussion.

[@erazmo]

But at least that person was polite and accepted arguments in a decent manner. Many dare to try to prove the existence of god but as soon as they get into a proper debate, it's almost unfair how their chances fade more and more with every argument they bring to the table. 😊

[@SSJ3Mewtwo]

@erazmo He didn't accept arguments in a decent manner. He deflected away from points the hosts made, dodged multiple questions, and defaulted to his next talking points when cornered on an issue. It wasn't an honest interaction.

[@erazmo]

@SSJ3Mewtwo He definitely tried but was cornered. Sorry, I'm more used to fundamentalists that are way more aggressive. This guy admitted at the end that he's out of arguments. That's what I was refering to.

[@paulgemme6056]

@@erazmo The obedience of one makes us right with God (not religion). By grace through faith, we are saved. it is not of our selves lest any man should boast. It's a free gift. The gift of God (to know him), the gift of eternal life. Jesus Christ/God offers that gift to all who believe (have faith). No religion needed. Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

[@easterlake]

This is so mind blowingly embarrassing.

[@petergeh9584]

Yes but did you know that god created embarrassing! It says so in the book of this, chapter that and verses

[@anthonykenny1320]

It’s only embarrassing for people who believe in this nonsense I don’t find it “embarrassing” I find it amazing that such stupidity has such a hold on the average American mind The only people I know who believe this stuff are clinically mentally ill

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

It's horrifying. This guy is thought of as normal, and he is considered to be a good person because he believes absurd nonsense that I tossed aside the same time as I did Santa Claus, if not earlier. It disgusts me that these people elect our presidents, and destroy us all in the process.

[@paulgemme6056]

@@petergeh9584 The obedience of one makes us right with God (not religion). By grace through faith, we are saved. it is not of our selves lest any man should boast. It's a free gift. The gift of God (to know him), the gift of eternal life. Jesus Christ/God offers that gift to all who believe (have faith). No religion needed. Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

[@moonytheloony6516]

@@paulgemme6056 Who cares? You're preaching scripture...what you're not doing is providing evidence that your god exists. Try doing that with evidence minus the preaching.... Good Luck Chuck!

[@smochygrice465]

Good friday morning AXP fans and theists ❤❤❤ Thank God for atheism 🙏 Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🤠

[@tiltingwindmill]

I hate the term "worldview". Just utterly detest it. It gives these inerrant bibble types an excuse to just shut down conversation. "Your worldview is different from mine" is such an amazing thought stopper.

[@freakishuproar1168]

Agreed. The standard response to anyone excusing themselves via the "it's my world view" should be "I see, so you live in a fantasy world then".

[@freakishuproar1168]

I love how the caller claimed he could prove Genesis, and instead shared all the facts about the oceans and the worlds oldest woman he'd googled five minutes prior. Really convincing stuff, Christians... ;3

[@landsgevaer]

The problem is not the word. The problem is the theist.

[@tiltingwindmill]

@@landsgevaer well, that's certainly true, too. But I kinda detest the word even when atheists use it.

[@landsgevaer]

@@tiltingwindmill Thanks for letting us know. I will try to avoid it in your presence. 😉

[@amontrealpaul226]

"Doesn't everyone do what I do and just look for whatever could possibly confirm my existing beliefs?"

[@michaelcolfin8464]

He disproved himself with his own evidence with the sumerian king thing. He said that before the flood the sumerian kings lived longer than after the flood. Doesn't that mean the sumerians survived the flood? Thus the Noah story isn't true, since the entire sumerian kingdom survived the flood, not just Noah.

[@kingtchenka628]

LMAO

[@richardcooper9167]

😂 good point!

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Yeah, every time god kills all of humanity there seam to be plenty of people around to procreate!

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

You can’t argue with a wall

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

This storybook starts 6300 years ago with the flood story 4300 years ago during a time the Egyptians and several other civilizations recorded their history.

[@reasonrules4165]

Now I understand how America is totally ffff upp

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

Yes, this is exactly the reason. Our Christians. They have been ruining every society they have dominated for 1500 years. It's so sad, because they are capable of destroying our entire world now, and would do it happily since they think Jesus is coming back within a century at most anyway. It's horrifying.

[@TPCDAZ]

I can prove Genesis. Phil Collins was in them.

[@ministryofarguments3525]

So was Peter Gabriel beforehand.

[@TPCDAZ]

@@ministryofarguments3525 The evidence is mounting up!

[@richardhoward7503]

​@@ministryofarguments3525Hmm... Peter GABRIEL. The archangel came down to bring song to the people! Hallelujah!

[@LucareonVee]

Phil Collins could say “I was in Genesis, but take a look at me now!” -New Testament of Collins

[@Meep-j7z]

They were better when Gabriel was the front man

[@Purgiful]

..and it's this lack of critical thinking skills sweeping America that allowed another term of chaos.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Who were the critical thnkers that voted for a president with obvious dementia then spent years pretending it wasnt hapoening ?

[@boxtrot5277]

You can say that, but more than half your country disagrees with you, and lots of good things are happening now like California getting water in their reserves and the border being shut that the previous admin lied about being shut.

[@Nikkithedog-t6b]

boxtrot, literally neither of those things are actually true. You are no different than this ignorant caller.

[@nagranoth_]

​@@boxtrot5277why are you so comfortable with lying?

[@thetruth1]

@@boxtrot5277 My god, get your facts right. Lots of good things? Half the country disagrees? Half the country is just wrong, including you. You just demonstrated the lack of critical thinking this commenter was talking about.

[@grumpylibrarian]

Aaron : 123 years Abraham : 175 years Amram : 137 years Isaac : 180 years Ishmael : 137 years Jacob : 147 years Joseph : 110 years Kohath : 133 years Levi : 137 years Sarah : 127 years All of these are after the Noah myth.

[@dennish.7708]

Yeah, none of those ages are true. It would be safe to knock off about 70 years from each of your claims.

[@grumpylibrarian]

@@dennish.7708 This isn't my "claim." I don't have sufficient evidence to conclude that these people actually existed, let alone to the ages given. This is a counter to the biblical claim within the Noah myth that the caller raised that "god limited human lifespan to 120 years," because even within his own book, he does not.

[@Meep-j7z]

What the bible contradicted itself? Say it's not so? 😂😂

[@edp4352]

This list reminds me of the old Alan King bit about no matter how old man lives they're almost always survived by their wives. He'd bring obits onto the Tonight Show that showed a 100 year old man who was inevitably "survived by his wife".😂

[@Theproclaimed]

@@dennish.7708 can we actually prove any of those actually existed in the first place though?

[@photozel]

Jeanne Calment (1875 - 1997) is the oldest person ever verified, living to the age of 122 years and 164 days. She was born in Arles, France and died in a nursing home in the same city.

[@DAngelo23]

Obviously this caller doesn't give a damn about women. Edit: Or science. Or logic.

[@KarstenNygaard-d8c]

She was a heavy smoker as well. She stopped smoking at a 109, due to worries about her health😂😂😂😂

[@billybob4274]

To be fair, he did say MAN 🤣 This was someone that didn't do much research, or much thinking either.

[@anthonyharty1732]

He actually said a woman in France lived until she was 122 on the phone call.

[@shmick6079]

@@anthonyharty1732that was a funny contradiction 😂

[@richardmorgan1588]

If the whole Earth is submerged in water, that IS the ocean... so his argument is the water went into itself?

[@shmick6079]

That’s the key knowledge gap that these people seem to have… water can’t eat itself 😂

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Exactly. The ocean depth averages are 12,000 ft , with trenches deeper then 30,000 feet. In addition to all the water now existing in all the oceans, ocean volume would need to (approximately) double to get the water level high enough to rise 30,000 feet. That's enough water to make the oceans rise straight up 30, 000 feet. Additional water would be needed to cover all land mass up to 30,000 feet. Everest is 29,032 ft. So way more then double all current water on earth's surface .... is now in "the Pacific Ocean is really huge, it's huge"

[@WilliamSpoehr]

That's why mysticism isn't a valid way of knowing. If you're willing to accept the premise the miracles and an omnipotent sky mind you can (as my favorite atheist Ay Rand used to say) pay it dueces wild. If sky mind can wink a Neptune 's worth of rain into the air ex nihilo why can't he/she/it send the evaporate back into whatever Lovecraftian space between the dimensions? Likewise how can someone who's been paralyzed from birth suddenly get up a d walk? Baby's have to learn. But hey, if you can fix the nerves why not throw in the software? It's not true that if God does not exist all things are permitted. That only happens when God exists who can do everthing.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

​@@reasonablespeculation3893the exact number is that it would take 3.16× all the water on the planet, extra.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

@ "3.16 x" Is that in addition to water already in the oceans?, or would 3.16 x be enough

[@HelenBack1mil]

a global flood. odd that japan and other countries never even noticed.

[@sarahchristine2345]

China too, they have written records from thousands of years earlier… crazy they survived this “global flood” that allegedly wiped out every single living creature on the planet expect those on this wooden boat.

[@kyleepratt]

Right! Related, I live in Oregon. 7700 years ago we had the Mount Mazama eruption, sending out a radiometrically dateable ash layer. There are human tools and remains below and above the ash layer. Seems like the Bible timeline doesn't really work out...

[@dawnbreaker2912]

I'm sure it's a footnote in their records somewhere. "Oh, by the way, our entire civilization was completely wiped out by a deluge that we somehow all survived and were able to rapidly rebuild. It sucked ass."

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

Egypt kept up with their meticulous record keeping without the slightest bit of interruption, they didn't seem to notice it LOL

[@Krikenemp18]

​@@kyleepratt That's the point where they have to start distrusting/willfully misunderstanding radiometric dating.

[@amontrealpaul226]

No, the water didn't go into the ocean. According to the story, the flood waters covered MOUNTAINS. That's way more water than is in the oceans.

[@deniss2623]

You do realise that at least four times the surface water has been discovered under the surface of the earth? Do some research.

[@qwadratix]

@@deniss2623 That is utter BS. Where on earth do you get this sort of nonsense? Even more ridiculous that you should try to charact5erise it as 'research' when you plainly don't know even what the word means.

[@amontrealpaul226]

​@@deniss2623CITATION NEEDED

[@deniss2623]

@qwadratix Do some research. Reality does not shrink within the confines of our ignorance!

[@amontrealpaul226]

​@@deniss2623I've done research. You're full of it.

[@timg7627]

The noah flood story is clearly plagiarized from the earlier story epic of gilgamesh

[@stevesheppardmusic]

Yes and many Greek narratives, Zeus was always doing it lol

[@bitplanes]

I don't understand how these people aren't embarrassed not just by the fact that the story is obviously impossible, but by the fact that Noah's flood is a cheap Temu copy of story that actually made way more sense because it didn't shoehorn the whole sin thing into it. The real story has multiple gods disagreeing which explains the whole thing about warning somebody to build the ark.

[@justmindingmyown]

That was very kind and gentle of you

[@leoromo7845]

So glad I found this channel.

[@aku7598]

Prophet Lot lived 175 years, and he came later than Naoh.

[@ericreinert5494]

just when you think you've heard the dumbest person alive, and then this. In biblical times people were lucky to live to forty

[@ulissesbazilio823]

I stand in awe of the patience displayed by the hosts.

[@hansrockhard]

"Creation scientists" lmao

[@curtislowe195]

Science shows us that monkeys produce monkeys every single time

[@Meep-j7z]

Life disproves a worldwide flood.

[@emordnilaps]

Do you believe that all the biomes and micromes were instantly re-established after the flood, to sustain all the saved pairs of kinds? Maybe your god will do the same for us on Mars when we are done killing one another down here. Or perhaps your sworn enemy's god will.

[@jonclark8252]

For those of you who claim that Noah's flood was a real historical event; name one animal whose minimum viable population is 3.

[@frasergavin418]

It still rains in the Himalayas for 360 days a year and nowhere floods .rivers do and low lying places do but there is not enough water on the planet to cover the land in 1 inch of water.

[@jonclark8252]

@@frasergavin418 For the world to flood in one year of raining, it would have to rain at a rate of about 92,908 qubic miles per hour...every hour....for a year....

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

Any animal that reproduces asexually - there are a suprising lot.

[@stevelloyd5785]

Aphid, even one would be sufficient unless it got eaten

[@roguesheep3083]

@@jonclark8252 i always picture the beavers restrained like little Hannibal Lecters 😆

[@petyrkowalski9887]

If the claimed water..which in the buy-bull “covered the highest mountains” which means Everest at 8400 m… thats the entire planet under Kms of water… where did it go to?

[@jackwhitbread4583]

Especially as there is not enough water on earth for a global flood and there is no evidence of a global flood in the geological record.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

According to AiG, the oceans! Derp! 🤦🤣

[@SamLowry42]

I can prove Genesis. I saw them in Wembley Stadium in 1987 and again in Philadelphia in 2007, they were definitely real and played Domino both times

[@BrianBattles]

So many of these calls turn out to be a waste of time because the callers have nothing

[@fattymcbastard6536]

Looks like you made a typo. Allow me to correct that for you: -So many- All of these calls turn out to be a waste of time because the callers have nothing

[@johnsperry9494]

Scientists have calculated that if all water on Earth were liquified (polar ice caps melted, mountain snow and ice melted, Greenland Ice melted, all atmospheric clouds and water vapor condensed, all lakes and rivers emptied, etc.), the global sea level would rise by about 250 feet. Not exactly a global flood. Sure, all coastal cities would be destroyed. But at 300’ elevation, good old Fresno would almost become oceanfront property!

[@jamesparson]

I am still not moving there

[@moonytheloony6516]

If that happens I will move to Fresno for the ocean view.

[@iitywybmad29]

I want to know why the all powerful, all knowing creator god would have to have breeding stock on a boat rather than just abracadabra (I create as I speak) more animals into existence. Humans too.

[@amtlpaul]

Because that's not as good a story

[@iitywybmad29]

@@amtlpaul It wouldn't be as good as Gilgamesh would it? Lol

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

​@@iitywybmad29because it wouldn't be the same story as Gilgamesh, retold.

[@carlisroy6666]

No apologist has ever explained to me how all the animals were fed or how all that excrement was cleaned every day. You woild need 110 metric tonnes of food for the duration of their stay on the ark, and that's just for two elephants, let alone everything else.

[@trevorporter4776]

If there was a global flood the water level around the world would be roughly the same. (Higher than Mt. Everest). So when the rain stops --- the water cannot 'flow into the Pacific ocean'. The Pacific ocean would be buried under floodwater about 8 Klm (5 miles) from its usual level. Hard to get water to 'flow' into a full bathtub.

[@Gerryjournal]

Exactly

[@scrubjay93]

But the Pacific Ocean is SO BIG!!!

[@sarahchristine2345]

The lack of critical thinking skills is astounding!

[@gheller2261]

The free Palestine useful idiots are no different.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

One core element of critical thinking is Ocham's Razor. But here are two complicating factors. One, Lee's Elucidation: A finite number of words must be made to represent an infinite number of things and possibilities. Indeed, a finite number of words is being used to represent an infinite number of things and possibilities. Language Habits in Human Affairs, Irving J .Lee,1942. Two, the principle of language economy. We naturally like to speak in short sentences and leave to the listeners the task of filling in the blanks. Shorter sentences may be more memorable and persuasive.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

As others here have said, the Bible says that Abraham lived until he was 175 years old, so he's going to have to come up with an excuse for that, which he will. So sad.

[@craigkelly4278]

So i guess what is in the apocrypha don't count. Then since it gives another account of the beginning.

[@simonwaugh5519]

In the beginning there was only God, and His biographer. And God said "let there be light" and His biographer wrote down God's words, but also said "Thank God for that, now I can see what I'm actually writing...umm don't worry God, I won't include myself in this account, it's all about You...pretend I'm not here".

[@henrim9348]

Hosts are flooding the dude with questions. 😊😊😊

[@JameyBarrow]

@@henrim9348 🤣

[@pyatig]

Idk why I’m still amazed at the sheer stupidity but here we are again 🤧

[@thomascanfield8571]

In the rediculous words of Ken Ham "were you there?"

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Lol, yet none of them "were there" at the Resurrection...

[@TrishRyan-ey8go]

Rain fall in Maryland my home state ! I always knew it was special!

[@arctictruck10]

How was Genesis written with only two people there?

[@qwadratix]

God did it?

[@steveclark5357]

it was written by cain and abel's wives😆

[@albaniahenry-franklin2829]

*_MAGIC_* 🤣🤣🤣

[@ChristianIce]

Adam brought the pen, Eve brought the paper. Of course the serpent was dictating the story. Smart fella, that snake.

[@sixofsix]

Let’s ignore the “placing of the sun and moon into the sky” part 😂

[@steveking3340]

Question: how does a person that doesn't believe that the earth rotates around the sun, can tell how old he is.

[@radarlockeify]

Flerfs gotta flerf.

[@fattymcbastard6536]

There are seasons, equinoxes and solstices to name a few. Even with no understanding of why they occur, it's pretty simple to derive what a year is.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Whoa, is this guy a flerfer too?

[@markewing10]

If that’s where the water went, then there must have been a Pacific Ocean size valley that got filled up when it rained, so there still couldn’t have been a flood. I don’t think this guy thought this through.

[@stevesheppardmusic]

The amount of times Zeus used to flood the world, hundreds of years before the bible made the event some what banal lol

[@plainsman]

Since the time of the early church, many theologians have recognized that Genesis presents a largely figurative depiction of creation. Augustine and Origen both understood, for instance, that the Bible did not describe literal twenty-four hour days. As Origen put it, “who would be so foolish as to believe that the days of creation are literal days when there is not even sun, moon, and stars until the fourth day”. They knew from reading the text itself with all of its figurative elements (does God have lungs?, Gen. 2:7) that we were not getting a literal description of how a God created the cosmos or human beings.

[@julieford-gy2vh]

If there was a global flood, the Mariana Trench would also be full of water, so the water couldn't go there when it left the land.

[@kennethsteinfield6104]

“Who else would cause a global flood?” What a FANTASTIC comeback!

[@non-exist-ent]

0:20 - If the goal of religious life is to go to heaven, wouldn’t living on earth for a longer time be undesirable? God shortening the earthly lifespan should be considered a blessing.

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

The flood is such a great story since it flies in the face of pretty much every scientific field.

[@funmakers2093]

At this point, I think it’s a waste of time to try prove the global front. And the reason is that there is plenty of evidence that a number of civilizations were alive and thrived during the time flood was supposed to happen.

[@rayalevesque]

How long did they live? The Pacific Ocean is huge!!!

[@Gerryjournal]

Surely a 'global flood' means the oceans were also 'flooded'.

[@taketheatrain5393]

This guy is one tsunami of incredulity!

[@samf7192]

Andrew proves that indoctrination of the young works.

[@sgtcrab2569]

Danny Bouy...... "Noah..."it will rain for forty days and forty nights!....You do know you are in Scotland...we are on 50 days at the moment!"

[@dalecs47]

Religious lies of omission: Religious people never speak the next step after we are all accepting their god. The next step being that we have to do what THEY tell us to do and we have to give THEM our money. It is NEVER as simple as "Believe in god and then everything is fine." Religion is and always will be about power and money. When they do not tell you, then they are lying to you!

[@CatholicSatan]

It very certainly did _not_ happen before Noah's flood that people lived well beyond 120 years. The field of paleopathology has researched this and the _median_ lifespan of a human 30,000 to 9000 years BC was around 30 to 35 years. It actually dropped after this period by a couple of years and did not start to rise until about 2000 BC. Median lifespan then rose very slowly to around 40 years in the early Christian period.

[@robertjimenez5984]

I live in Caribbean and in hurricane Maria it rain for more than 24 hours. My pool that its deepest part is 8’ was empty, after 24 hours of rain it was almost full. So 8’ of water in 24 hour. In 40 day will be 192’. Let’s double it to 384’. This will not be enough water to caver a small hill. And what makes this even more ridiculous is that the clouds will have to be covering the entire planet. To think this is possible is impossible.

[@Specialeventscambodia]

But god would wave his magic wand...and do what he wants...poof

[@robertjimenez5984]

@ yes, now the impossible is magically possible.

[@elainejohnson6955]

I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window for the 3 levels, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping!

[@amtlpaul]

In fact, the Hebrew phrase 'mabbul mayim' simply means a big, mighty flood. It is from the context of the story that we know this flood was suppposed to be world-wide, but of course the known world in those days was fairly limited, which is why the writers didn't even bother trying to explain how species from the Americas and Australia were supposedly rescued by an ark located in Mesopotamia.

[@damonkenny7818]

Great now you’re assuming ancient mythological epics should provide precise historical details. Welcome to atheist Disneyland everyone.

[@amtlpaul]

@damonkenny7818 , I agree that it's mythological. 😆 🤣 😂

[@damonkenny7818]

@@amtlpaul Wow, so you’ve concluded a myth is a myth. And I suppose myths are “historically inaccurate?” ie. Homer’s Odyssey (Whatever that means). You’re so knowledgeable that you should just leave and never come back.

[@jonclark8252]

@@damonkenny7818 Hey there @amtlpaul. Do you think @damonkenny7818 will ever present evidence proving his claims, or just continue to flail and fail? Asking for a friend, LOL

[@damonkenny7818]

@@jonclark8252 Sure “my claims” (whatever they were), where are these “claims”? lol. I don’t expect a response from you, vile troll like you.

[@robertgray323]

" According to most creation scientists " ok ???

[@williamfortune755]

Oh dear!! Nurse !!!

[@aaronstone8147]

X rays and gama rays pass through matter. Photons, aka light. Will bounce off and reflect, that's how we see things.

[@aaronstone8147]

Also scatter.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

Small issue: X and gamma rays are also photons, but your main point is on point. Also, shining X or gamma rays in your eyes isn't a path to a long life. 😂

[@eyelight3056]

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. The sun was the reason earth became a planet so whoever wrote the old testament got it wrong which means no god said anything 😶‍🌫

[@JakeSpoon214]

This sounds like the guy that called in when David Fitzgerald was on. David ran through every bad point he had. It was like a peewee team scoring so much, they turn off the scoreboard.

[@sarahchristine2345]

Caller ignores evidence from multiple fields of science that disprove Bible claims, such as; Genetics Geology Archaeology Astronomy Paleoanthropology Agriculture Evolutionary Biology Embryology Taxonomy Phylogeny But uses rainfall data from a single day 75 ish years ago as “scientific evidence” of an event that’s been thoroughly disproven by all the science he just doesn’t like… 👌👌👌 WOW DUDE

[@jeffsims8270]

Wow! That was prolly the longest short I've ever watched! 😲 I did enjoy it, but I just thought it was a bit odd that it was such a long vid. Idk, maybe it just seemed long from my perception.

[@ronthered138]

Poor man. To live in his world must be terrifying. How does he dress himself in the morning? Bigger question, how did 8 people shovel the manure from all those thousands of animals over the side every day?

[@fattymcbastard6536]

They didn't have to, because the ark could hold that much food! 😂😂

[@chriskelly3481]

Caller: "It's amazing to me that science says..." Whoop! I'll just stop you there buddy. You may not be equipped for this.

[@lilithcal]

How do they know it was global? Was it reported on satellite news?

[@grantlousich8534]

CNN said showers with high cloud

[@GulagVonHammersbeard]

Mosre to sloth: get your ass to the middle east Sloth: 17 years later

[@anthonymarcus8841]

If Earth was completely covered with water it would take millions of years for waters to recede. The Earth would be a water planet.

[@Gerryjournal]

Not only the earth, but the oceans must also have been raised. Water can't cover Mt Everest without the entire planet being covered by water of the same height

[@hankc1208]

whats supernatural about rain and flooding ?

[@dcrapier]

A world flood that no other civilization in the world noticed and wrote about? The Incas didn’t know about it. The Aztecs didn’t know. The Babylonians (sic) didn’t know of this flood. The Chinese, Japanese, the Koreans, the Indians, the Africans, etc. etc. never noticed that their world was flooded? Gimme a break!

[@zigzag-xx2yd]

The average temperature atop of Mount Everest is -2'F. The temperature never rises above freezing. Noahs Ark and everything on it wouldn't have survived one day at that altitude, not only because they would freeze but they wouldn't have had enough oxygen.

[@amtlpaul]

That's possible. It’s also possible that the energy required to produce the flood would have burned the ark to a crisp long before!

[@fanofentropy2280]

Is there still lead in the plumbing where he lives?

[@radarlockeify]

Flint?

[@grantlousich8534]

He probably has no idea what plumbing Iis at all. If the word is not in the bible then it can't be true.

[@PauloBarreto15041964]

I'm baffled when these people have these small ideas in such small minds and think they are worldwide famous scientists.

[@barrythomson899]

Too true.

[@jimster7277]

Oh no, not more 'Creation Science Research'. This is an oxymoron.

[@justincredible.]

There were civilizations that lived through the supposed flood and didn't even mention it.

[@Frankdfn]

If the entire earth was covered in water was the pacific ocean empty? Also, the entire water level would have to have been as high as Everest, so who cares about the everage elevation. Does this guy think the water is different levels in different places. "My God," the irony was intended, this is a terrible argument.

[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

The amazing trick of the Bible is how it intentionally casts a wide net of "predictions" with its ambiguity. So you can have two polar opposite events, both being consistent with the Bible. For instance, if all the world's population becomes Christian, that is consistent with the Bible. If all the world rejects Christianity, that is also consistent with the Bible. Firmament, or no firmament, the Bible is consistent with both models. The discontinued Law of Moses, or the persisting Law of Moses. Evolution or no evolution. A "generation" can span any amount of time. The Bible allows for both literal and metaphorical predictions to be equally valid. It's ridiculous.

[@tpseeker3367]

Which bible are you referring to @Big-Papa-Smurf

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

​@@tpseeker3367every Bible. Whatever answer you want, you can get.

[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

@ The NIV or KJV

[@tpseeker3367]

How about Lutheran Cannon Bible, Geneva Bible, Bishops' Bible @@Big-Papa-Smurf Just more Folklore's

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

@Big-Papa-Smurf the KJV makes EVERYTHING easier by hiding much of the worst stuff in euphemism. The NIV is essentially the same as every other (non-KJV-based) Bible when it comes to pulling off your "amazing trick", so why leave out the rest?

[@leongkhengneoh6581]

The water of global flood went into the pacific ocean. Was the pacific ocean half empty before the flood?

[@AlexFeldstein]

Why would people live their lives based on Bronze Age farmers stories is beyond me.

[@ciararespect4296]

12:50 "I understand" meaning he's run out of ideas but still stubborn enough not to admit it, keep his fictional character he leans on 😂 and run away

[@dennish.7708]

The ancient Hebrew word for ‘global’ probably didn’t mean what Andrew thinks it means.

[@King_of_Railways]

Oh, this sceptic counts in metrics! But only at the beginning! 😮😅

[@philipinchina]

So that's Genesis proven. Exodus next?

[@Alexander-x3g1h]

Um, the hosts, very politely, proved Genesis false. If you were being sarcastic, apologies.

[@philipinchina]

@@Alexander-x3g1h Yes, satire.

[@Jimages_uk]

2:28 wasn't every ocean already full while the flood was happening? If so, how can the rest of the water go there? It is already full and actually it would have been overflowing. 11:05 using that argument, god created light before the heavens and earth as well, his arguments aren't thought through very well

[@brianmonks8657]

The Pacific ocean is huge.... uh huh, and? A global flood would have to add water on top of the Pacific ocean. It doesn't matter how large or deep the Pacific is, it would need to be filled with water before the land was flooded. It doesn't explain where all that water went because it was already full of water in order for the flood of the land to happen at all.

[@Captain101-x1o]

And to flood the pacific to 29,000ft above sea level in order to raise the oceans to cover all land would require a volume of water twice that of the pacific just to cover the area of the pacific! (Average depth of the pacific is 14,000ft)

[@richardpowell1220]

@@Captain101-x1o It would take 1.1 billion cubic miles of water to flood the entire planet. The Pacific contains about 170 million cubic miles of water. There are about 320 million square miles of water in all the oceans put together. Arithmetic appears to be another subject the man is not well versed in.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

The exact answer is that it would take 3.16× the amount of water on the planet, extra.

[@ernestoamador2481]

If the flood covered the tip of the mountains ?;where all the water went ?.

[@Andre-zw5kl]

For me personally, the easiest way to debunk the Noah's Ark story has to do with the aftermath. We have only 8 people surviving, and all of them are related. Without at least 100 individuals and none of them related to each other, the species would die because of the incest. And not to mention there are only a pair from each animal, so...

[@anthonycraig274]

It like hearing a child coming up to you, telling you how Santa gives presents to all the children in the world in one night.

[@crotchetmonger]

Putting aside for a moment how utterly infantile and irrelevant it is to even be discussing anything as ludicrous as the Noah’s Ark story, the caller’s claims are completely illogical! His initial ‘gotcha’ seems to be to point out how deep the floor of the Pacific Ocean is, and then claim that after the flood that’s where the water went. Umm… where was the water *during* the flood!? According to the fairy tale, it covered the entire surface of the earth, even the highest mountains. So the Pacific Ocean (along with everything else) would have been covered, with the mean sea level being about 30,000 feet higher than it is today. So, the question remains: where did the water go? In the 21st century (or in any of the last three centuries, frankly) anybody who believes that the flood story is true, or attempts to argue for its literal truth, need psychiatric help.

[@kubeck]

Lighting exists, we all see it. It’s written that the god Zeus makes lighting therefore, Zeus is god

[@arguescreamholler]

There's a woman 127 years old now.

[@tonyclements1147]

Source? Edit: An Eritrean *man* has died at the age of 127, his family has claimed, as they called for Guinness World Records to recognise him as the oldest person to ever have lived. (This was from a 2021 article @ Daily Mail..)

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic3]

Very high chance that this isn't real. A recent study of the super old found that the majority achieved their amazing age via bad record keeping and/fraud.

[@arguescreamholler]

@tonyclements1147 I saw it on Facebook

[@psychomd1939]

There were supposedly millions of people on Earth at the time of the Tower of Babel. Babel was supposedly only one of many large cities at the time of that biblical story. How is that possible since it was only 3 generations after Noah's family of 8 people debarked from the Ark?

[@jamescampbell2521]

Just finished reading Genesis. What a kooky mishmash of gobbledygook. 🤦🏼‍♂️