God Is Real Because of Minds Without Brains? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

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[@AtamMardes]

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." --- Voltaire

[@louiskriel7025]

Yeah and today their is millions of scoundrels and billions of gullible fools.

[@d.banksdesigns1995]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@canbest7668]

I’ve never heard of a mind without a brain but now I have heard a caller without a brain

[@Leith_Crowther]

I wish theists would come around to the fact that saying “God is not physical” is exactly the same as saying “God does not exist*.” *I only care about the material kind of existence, not the ‘existence’ of abstract concepts that are just imagined products of a mind.

[@brucebaker810]

I say to folks "if your definition of 'exists' doesn't include 'possesses actual molecules', what's your definition?"

[@cassievining340]

If we are made in the image of god but god has no physical form, he’s either voiding his argument or voiding the Bible.

[@queuecee]

​@@brucebaker810Light doesn't have actual molecules. Neither does a lot of other particles.

[@brucebaker810]

@@queuecee excellent point. I should be more granular. Spotted that as I typed. Would particles be better? Hmm. Under that, would light exist if it's particles, but not if it's waves?

[@brucebaker810]

@@cassievining340 perhaps it's how the Immaterial Presence that Created All _sees_ Itself. If It were to be physical, weak, mortal, and sub-bacteria sized.

[@Beacon80]

Apparently, the best way to "change the world" isn't to share your world shaking insights with the scientific community, but to get in arguments with random people in the KZbin comments section. 🤣

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

And to lose every time, it seems 😂

[@SickPuppet-w6x]

@@HamptonDoubledayJr At least here you can use more than 140 characters. You can't post images tho'. 🤪

[@Specialeffecks]

All examples of minds we know of require a brain - something made of material. Once someone claims an "immaterial mind" we have left all logic behind.

[@joshsheridan9511]

I don't know about minds without brains, but Nep and Co demonstrate brains without minds.

[@queuecee]

How about eyes without a face? Les yeux sans visage?

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@queuecee now I'll have to dig out my old Billy Idol CD

[@Mr_Porter]

Ah, reminiscing about these throwback callers is a mixed bag of amusement and pain, especially those who attempted to sound intelligent by using words they clearly didn't understand the meaning of. It's like watching someone juggle flaming swords while balancing on a unicycle-it's entertaining but also a bit cringe-worthy!

[@JeffreyChadwell]

Man, you really hit the nail on the head right there. This one is is exceptionally painful to listen to. The caller is WAY in over is head and he doesn't even realize it.

[@soothing_de4th863]

Is that because they are actors?

[@brianmonks8657]

It's like the people that don't understand infinity only exists as a concept, not as a quantity.

[@gregsimmons694]

Use the brain God gave you! Jesus saves sinners like you and I!

[@Griexxt]

@@gregsimmons694If you’d use your brain, you’d understand that the stories about Jesus are just that - stories.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

@@gregsimmons694 Ironic isn't, I used the brain that you say God gave me and it led me to no longer believe in God. Also ironic is that I was in Bible college when I came to that realisation.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@gregsimmons694 What version of Christianity do you believe in?

[@queuecee]

​@@gregsimmons694 It's "you and me" since you are using the object form. Didn't your god give you a brain?

[@burninggiraffe6615]

I got two minutes in but was drowning in stupid

[@Arkloyd]

The idea of a soul is the single most dead concept in all of neuroscience.

[@Seticzech]

@@JoeByeDumb "in the deep sea sponge" What? 😀 "which means it's conscience." How do you know that? Has virus conscience? 😀

[@queuecee]

​@@SeticzechHe idiotically thinks that just because an organism is a predator that it has consciousness. He doesn't understand what consciousness is. Also, he's incapable of learning as he's been taught that he's a science-illiterate ignoramus over and over to no effect.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@JoeByeDumb " it's a predator which means it's conscience." The Venus fly trap is predator.... It has no consciousness.... Pitcher plants... also.... Sundews.... Lot's of predators are not conscious....

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

I notice that there is a conscious cabbage posting here with some cabbage IQ bullshit about a sea sponge.

[@tonyclements1147]

@@holgerlubotzki3469 It’s Joey with another useless alt.

[@GBart]

Does Windows exist? Where does it go if I smash my computer? Where does Windows come from? It must be supernatural

[@Seticzech]

🤣🤣🤣👍

[@jamesparson]

It came from the ether net

[@computernerdtechman]

Actually, Microsoft Windows does exist as magnetic spots (1's and 0's) on a substrate (Hard Drive). And it can be physically measured. It comes from Microsoft Engineers and programmers. No it is not supernatural. Some may say unnatural, but that's not the same.😁

[@Diviance]

@@computernerdtechman Fucking magnets, how do they work?

[@computernerdtechman]

@@Diviance I usually don't frequent adult sex toys. I suggest you visit an adult bookstore and ask the salesperson.

[@GBart]

Lol I love it when they defeat their own argument without realizing it

[@anzu3439]

Math and logic are languages we created to describe reality. Descriptive not prescriptive

[@EthanBalkfield]

I think that's the core issue with most of these solipsist callers. I think they genuinely don't understand this difference.

[@Griexxt]

They listen to WLC or Turek, and suddenly they’re all experts on Big Bang cosmology.🤣

[@thatguyrich9822]

If this caller would've thrown in the word "quantum," I'd swear is was Deepak Chopra.

[@mimiodicho4641]

Oh my happiness am so glad people like you guys are in this world . Love and respect from an ASSYRIAN girl . Civilization of my ancestors still hurt cuz religion

[@Tuna_Man2323]

I have 17 more reasons to post. I will save them for later. I tried to be exhaustive, and still feel that I am only scratching the surface. People are so gullible for thinking that this was ever a good character. I know that he did good things too, but that does not make up for all of these bad things. He is sold as being without sin, and it is a big lie.

[@ApatheticFish3667]

Why do we talk about god so much? Like, we don't talk about The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. Do we just hate god? Every year, thousands of churches are built in the USA. I live in a more secular country, but there are still plenty of churches built up here. The government doesn't spend millions each year to devote themselves to The Tooth Fairy. People aren't getting scammed millions of dollars because of The Easter Bunny. (Sure, there's Easter Eggs, but those are more traditions than scams) And most importantly, there's no societies built upon the foundation of Santa Claus. If thousands of people were killed each year because of people's belief in The Tooth Fairy, you'd have something to say about it too. Inspired by DarkMatter2525

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Well said. I consider religion to be the world's oldest scam, one of the biggest stumbling blocks to humanity that ever came down the pikes. As a former victim of this scam, which did great psychological and irreversible physical damage to me in a very personal way, of course I am going to be vocal and want to warn others about this man-made affliction. Much like a cancer survivor that speaks out about cancer and the things that cause it.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@jaflenbond7854 A guy says he's suffered great psychological damage due to having religion forced upon him... and you respond by forcing random Bible quotes on him? Wow, are all Christians as nasty and hateful as you? Reported.

[@jaflenbond7854]

@@HamptonDoubledayJr ARROGANT, CRUEL, HATEFUL, and MERCILESS PERSONS on earth KNOW and are fully aware that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of no worth, value, and importance to them.... unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, deceits, hypocrisies, cruelties, unkindness, ungratefulness, deceits, lies, and UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Trinity", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" hurt, offend, insult, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of their co-human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. Atheists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly claiming that the BIBLE is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales KNOW and are fully aware that they are not worthy and deserving to be honored and rewarded by the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 but worthy and deserving of their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, worthless and useless dusts on Earth forever. This is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS on Earth - Jesus Christ KNOWS that the submissiveness and obedience of loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth to his authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely bring them honor and his GOD and Father's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on Earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 but he knows too that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is the guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, his GOD and Father will let him RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

@@jaflenbond7854 Sorry, could you repeat that, we weren't listening.

[@jaflenbond7854]

​@@sirbarryvee-eight6485LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER GOD KNOWS that the submissiveness and obedience of loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth to the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely bring them honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on Earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. GOD KNOWS that all human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 but he knows too that the teaching of his Christ about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is his guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@amtlpaul]

No sound arguments for a God existing are to be found here either!

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Here are yet more reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus. He disrespected his Mother. John 2:4 He told his followers to give away all of their stuff. Matthew 19:21 He advocated "Turn the other cheek" which is very bad advice. Matthew 5:38-40 He broke the Sabbath. John 5:18 Either he was lying about mustard seeds being the smallest seed, or he really wasn't an all-knowing gh0d like he sometimes claimed to be. Matthew 13:32

[@AquaPeet]

What's... genral relativily? Buzzwords is all he remembers and he mixes them into a wordsalad that he calls sentences and he can't even pronounce the words correctly.

[@eklektikTubb]

"This is the jar full of nothing, this is a jar full of absolutly nothing, and you are done!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Gwaithmir]

The more I listen to the theists calling into these shows, the more glad I am that I'm an atheist.

[@lilcaps]

To say that a thing exists is to say that your senses percieve it so, and you cannot percieve something that by definition is imperceptible. To say that something exists outside of your perception is only a useful idea for describing things you believe will come into your perception in the future

[@scipioafricanus5871]

Damn, that's a young Darth Dawkins calling in!

[@powbobs]

He doesn’t understand that 2+2=4 is not an abstract concept.

[@queuecee]

The math itself is an abstract concept. 2+2=4 expresses a conceptual relationship in quantities. The application of these relationships to the real world is concrete. We take two apples and add two more apples and we would expect four apples, as per our conceptual understanding of quantities. For example, the earliest development of the concept of zero was in the 3rd century BCE.

[@tma2001]

well it only took 379 pages to prove 1+1=2 in Principia Mathematica so you might want to revise that opinion!

[@badatheist9948]

its close to lunch, so i can just eat the caller's word salad

[@jeff6660]

Ken is really Andrew from the Austin Stone Church.

[@davidlockett4207]

If God is immaterial and is just a disembodied mind, then how is a God ranked as a he?

[@PomPom123Boo]

Verily my child, it is He, not he (apparently) 🙏

[@Seticzech]

Because ancient barbarians who invented god were misogynists?

[@PomPom123Boo]

Come on guys - it was just a joke :(

[@suburban-vampire]

Minds Without Brains sounds like an alt rock group that got big on college radio in like 1997

[@SickPuppet-w6x]

The initial state of the universe was probably a point in spacetime of minimum entropy. If one tried to travel in time to "before the big bang" entropy would start increasing again. Basically on the other side, temporally speaking, of the big bang would just be another universe where time flows in the opposite direction. No "first cause" needed. It would also probably be made of anti-matter since antimatter would behave like ordinary matter if time was reversed, or so I've heard. Makes more sense than "God did it." at least to me.

[@MrMattSax]

God exists because the caller is incredulous

[@Specialeffecks]

Logical absolutes are one of the many concepts that do not exists without something that can have concepts - a mind, which requires a brain.

[@tonydarcy1606]

When is a door not a door ? When it's ajar !

[@MartijnHover]

Of course, brains without minds are quite common. 😀

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Here are even more reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus. He had a temper tantrum and cursed a fig tree when it was out of season. Mark 11:13 He told his disciples to steal a colt. Luke 19:29 "Have them slain before me" Luke 19:27 Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. (Matthew 11:20) He threatens everyone with a sword. Matthew 10:34 NAB

[@Tuna_Man2323]

@@jaflenbond7854 IFor the world has been manipulated for thousands and thousands of years, But still there is a little here and a little there to give understanding. For you may destroy many religious worlds, for you are just stuck on the edge of time. For times is all you desire, and what's beyond has made it's claim. So it's either you are for it or against it. For it was the two creatures that was spoke of in Job that would turn on one another. We all have opinions.

[@Seticzech]

@@jaflenbond7854 blabla from insane mind

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@jaflenbond7854 Lamingtons😇

[@brucebaker810]

This is from episode 666.

[@ronwhitehouse23]

Has this caller escaped from a hospital?

[@mike196212]

He needs to go back to his video games. Then again,he probably doesn't understand them either. I LOVE how he agrees with them when they correct him but continues with his nonsense.

[@markpolice3585]

So God is a disembodied mind but we were created in his own image? Please make that make sense.

[@Ex_christian]

Those in the Christian cult don’t have a clue what they believe in. They have several gods but say they only believe in one yet 3. The Christian cultists make no sense at all. They have to lie continually.

[@nealjroberts4050]

The usual stupid debunked arguments from my fellow theists: Fine tuning - no constants have been demonstrated to be tuned. Anthropic/puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed. KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency exists Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed. Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically Bet I don't get any smart explanations instead.

[@陳俊諺-g8p]

2:42 it's not not a jar. what a wonderful phrase.

[@michaelcolfin8464]

"Sir, you are employing a double negative." Spock to Bela Oxmyx Star Trek, A piece of the Action

[@josephmayfield945]

Someones been day drinking.😂

[@Criticalthinking_]

This caller + this caller = no logic. Thats a logical absolute :)

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Here are some more reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus. He predicted that most people will go to hell, and seems to be o.k. with that. Matthew 7: 13-14 He lied about the effectiveness of prayer when he says you can pray for anything and it will be yours. No faith required. Matthew 7:7-8 NAB He made a large number of false prophecies about end times of his generation. Matthew 16:28. Luke 9:27, Mark 13:30, Matthew 24:29-34, Luke 21:25-32, Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:62, John 1:50-51 and others. On one occasion, when Simon Peter dismissed Mary by asserting that women are not worthy of life, Jesus seems to agree, and claims that he will make her a male, in order to enter heaven. Then Jesus makes this a rule for all women. The gospel of St. Thomas 114

[@Chris-hx3om]

Is 'first cause' the same as the Kalam cosmological argument? If it is, then it's a circular argument that debunks itself.

[@davidbelway6076]

Understanding physical law has taken me further away from the god delusion. This brainless solder of indoctrination is wasting everyone's time.

[@tekbarrier]

So according to him, God is a mind, but somehow not attached to a brain, and he's not physical, but somehow impacts the physical world, and is also somehow a dude

[@soothing_de4th863]

Pray for these lost souls

[@a-blivvy-yus]

ok but if you take a jar, and turn it into a door, then make sure it's properly closed, you can say that the jar is not ajar. (sorry had to)

[@michaelcolfin8464]

And you always invite mushrooms to your party, because he is a fungi.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@michaelcolfin8464 Given my D&D party's experiences with mushrooms, *PLEASE NO!* xD (but also yes!)

[@ronthered138]

Ah, the "because why" argument.

[@kitchencarvings4621]

The logical absolutes, in fact, all concepts, are a relationship between the mind and reality. They are the form in which we grasp and retain facts that exist independent of our minds. They aren't entities in their own right; they are mental integrations. The facts exist, and then we grasp and integrate these facts in the form of perceptions and concepts based on perception. What's needed is an understanding of concepts, how they are formed, and how they relate to reality. Where they come from is the reasoning process applied to what we perceive in reality by means of our senses. You won't find any of this in the Bible. The Bible has nothing to say on epistemology, i.e., the nature and means of knowledge. It treats knowledge as revelations from another dimension, which is why theists are so confused about this stuff.

[@EthanBalkfield]

So God is an abstract mental concept? Yup, I guess we all agree on that.

[@asyetundetermined]

It’s frustrating that we’re in a place now where the god character has been so thoroughly defeated that it now exists solely in this ethereal, philosophical space for these bozos. It’s painful listening to them try and succeed in a domain where they clearly lack any and all competency.

[@smochygrice465]

No sale 😎

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

LOL, you have a "Translate to English" tag under your comment and when you press it, it changes "No sale" to "No salt" 😂

[@queuecee]

​@@HamptonDoubledayJr I thought he was saying that it doesn't come out.🤔

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@queuecee Sorry, you've lost me ❓

[@queuecee]

​@@HamptonDoubledayJrIn Spanish, it means it (or he or she) doesn't come out. It's the 3rd person singular of the verb, salir.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

*There are shadows around me*

[@nealjroberts4050]

It's a good Alan Parsons

[@ottonormalverbrauch3794]

Is this the eighties atheists channel?

[@MichaelPosenke-el9to]

God absolutely cannot be detected or measured in any plausible way therefore I cannot be convinced that any god or gods exist. I also don't believe in fairies unicorns zombies or vampires.

[@marius9897]

The caller has ID10T.

[@verybenjaminlife1507]

That's sounds almost as if humorously like my buddy Allen B. had called into the show.

[@williamskinner]

To Ken one = three.

[@allendesomer]

The arguments for a "first cause" are worthy topics to dive into. People like the caller need help with it.

[@Seticzech]

"The arguments for a "first cause" are worthy topics to dive into." Why? You can't get any retional result of it. It's total waste of time.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Absolute first causes are impossible if something can only come from something.

[@allendesomer]

@@Seticzech Yes, we can argue that it's a waste of time, therefore, those who believe in a first cause can be shown the flaws in the concept. It comes up again and again because believers can't navigate the subject.

[@Specialeffecks]

There never was a "nothing". Both theists - who posit a preexisting God, and atheists who correctly say, "I don't know", or at least admit that the "potential" for all of this has always existed, because if that potential was EVER absent, none of this would be here.

[@allendesomer]

@@Specialeffecks Here's an interesting twist: If we can ever scientifically grasp the unified field, the description of it would be closer to "nothingness" than what most people can currently imagine. 😯 Just for fun, based on thw above, I'll suggest that we live our lives constantly interacting with essential nothingness.... no need to go back in time to a first cause! 😅🤣😂 Even if I'm wrong, at least I'm hinting that there are better ways to grapple with the subject than what apologists are fond of.

[@jerrycallender-qm7zr]

Math isn't based on 'philosophy'.

[@uno4606]

Bald eagle has struck again

[@SevenPr1me]

You seem like someone who got abused heavily as a child

[@Alacritous]

"1 + 1 = 3 only for very large values of 1"

[@queuecee]

Or very small values for 3.

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Or, you can join the ends of the 1's together and make it into a squiggle that looks like a 3.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@Tuna_Man2323 Yeah but only in America - land of the three.

[@AlexisThePangolin]

that jar is not ajar it is very much closed (sorry i had to)

[@bradleynichols4909]

MOVE ON. Nothing to be learned here.

[@skummisrocker]

2+2=3? 🤔🙄

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Please post this on every religious page you may happen to visit or ask any religious people you may know.. The obvious reason why ALL gods are imaginary... One two part question for people with superstitious religious beliefs. (A) If someone told you (or you read in a book) that the sun used matches and candles to spread light and heat at night. Would it be obvious to you, how self evidently illogical, irrational, unreasonable and nonsensical this idea was? (Would you understand why)? (B) If someone told you (or you read in a book) that something capable of creating a universe and everything in it, used puny humans and books to spread accurate information. Would it be obvious to you, how self evidently illogical, irrational, unreasonable and nonsensical this idea was? (Would you understand why)? All gods are imaginary. No people = No imagined gods.

[@jamesigo6324]

God metaphor-what came 1st the chicken or egg....only the omnipotent, omnipresent higher power could ever know the True answer bc our earthly judgement is not worthy of the sacred.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Evidence?

[@pelicancomet4427]

theists cannot deal or dabble with logic. 'Cos if they did, they wld drop all pretentions of ... being a Theist!

[@nealjroberts4050]

Untrue. It's only the ignorant theists who cannot handle logic

[@roarilan]

Are we just out of content?

[@SleepyGORLEY]

They’ve been throwing these old clips up for years in between shows

[@joshsheridan9511]

No

[@ALTDOK667]

No. They all have new episodes weekly.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@JoeByeDumb 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@tpseeker3367]

Call in & prove your Claims @@JoeByeDumb 27 Years tells me the ACA is Willing & Wanting. The Atheist Experience with Jim Barrows and The Cross-Examiner at 5:30 PM EDT 4:30 PM US Central Time

[@MaxPower-vg4vr]

The Mind-Body Problem The metaphysical issue of whether Mind and Matter are distinct substances or aspects of the same reality is a long-standing paradox. Using fuzzy modal logics, we could model Mind (M) and Matter (P) as fuzzy concepts with values in [0,1] capturing degrees of "mind-like" or "matter-like" properties. Then modal operators could encode ontological modalities: ◇(M = 1 ∧ P = 0) Possibly, Mind without Matter ◻(M + P = 1) Necessarily, Mind and Matter sum to unity This allows reasoning about metaphysical stances like dualism, monism, etc using graded approximations rather than strict binarism. Scientifically, we could connect such fuzzy modal models to quantum measurement formalisms embracing analog qualities of mind and matter prior to objectification into classical binary states.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Ahem, the mind is dependent on a brain regardless.

[@MaxPower-vg4vr]

@@nealjroberts4050 Matter over mind? That's contradictory.

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@MaxPower-vg4vr Nope. Every mind is dependent on a brain to exist.

[@Seticzech]

Literally no word salad can change reality that mind without brains simply doesn't exists.

[@MaxPower-vg4vr]

@@nealjroberts4050 0D is not dependent on 1D, 2D, 3D to exist. Sorry but you have it backwards. Quarks can exist without protons and neutrons and not the other way around.

[@jwsanders1214]

I didn't get to choose where I was born , or my eye color , or my parents , or my blood type , or to be Male or Female , but God left the most important choice to me to decide Where I will spend eternity . I choose Jesus I choose to trust Jesus and his promises I choose life and forgiveness and Salvation I choose heaven and reject Hell I choose Jesus

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

LOL, good luck with that 🙄

[@queuecee]

You are a Christian purely by the accident of where you were born. You would have been a Hindi or a Muslim if you were born in those areas.

[@Griexxt]

I choose to believe that I will be invited to study at Hogwarts this year. It will definitely happen.

[@Diviance]

...you literally didn't "choose Jesus". Someone (probably your parents) indoctrinated you into the religion. You were convinced, despite there not being any good reason, it was true. You didn't choose it. Someone else chose it for you.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Counterproductive preaching is still counterproductive

[@ButterknifeofMoses4]

“If you don’t sin, then Jesus died for nothing” is the top comment here. This blasphemous take on Jesus’s sacrifice holds one CRUCIAL flaw. All humans are inherent sinners, no human has ever lived a sinless life. Not one. Jesus lived the one life no human can. Jesus died to cover our sins, knowing we can’t escape it. So it’s like saying “if you don’t drown, the lifeguard came to work for nothing”

[@jonclark8252]

There's evidence that lifeguards exist. Where's your evidence proving your christ character was ever a real person?

[@Seticzech]

Babbling from brainwashed cult member.

[@queuecee]

I think the CRUCIAL flaw is your inability to understand levity. How about that?

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Jesus was a sinner. He dishonored his Mother. And, he broke the Sabbath.

[@Tuna_Man2323]

Also, stole a donkey

[@mikejurney9102]

Don't we all agree that there is some abstract force or being of reason that ensures that all facts in reality are consistent with each other so that no existing thing contradicts the existence of any other existing thing? And doesn't this abstract force of logic exist everywhere at all times and takes into account all facts that every will have been? And isn't this Force of Logic just another name for God?

[@kitchencarvings4621]

Facts are consistent because there is a 100% concurrence of existence and identity, i.e., a thing is itself, A is A. We identify this fact with the law of identity. Facts cannot contradict themselves which is why logic works. It's simply the law of identity applied to the task of identifying what exists. If you arrive at a contradiction, then you know you have made a mistake somewhere, and then you either track it down and correct it or you say, "Oh, well," and allow nonsense into your mind.

[@Seticzech]

"Don't we all agree that there is some abstract force" No we don't.

[@mikejurney9102]

@@Seticzech I don't believe you.

[@Seticzech]

​@@mikejurney9102 It doesn't matter, I still don't agree with you.

[@queuecee]

​@@mikejurney9102Why wouldn't you agree with him? Your statement is falsified by just a single dissenter. So EVERYONE else might agree, but his one disagreement makes your statement false.

[@georgeaguilar6996]

You guys are still looking for God, I figured that by now you would have moved on and lived a happy life, not sure why continue to waste your time, oh wait, that's right,...... this channel exists to mock and ridicule God and Christians. No evidence for the wicked, you are not an honest people, your intentions are very well known, don't expect an explanation or a single dime from God, he owes no one nothing.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

Aww, diddums

[@ApatheticFish3667]

No, the reason this channel exists is to show that there's no good arguments for god, and that societies shouldn't be built upon superstitions.

[@queuecee]

The channel mocks and ridicules people who come with ridiculous reasons for their god belief. As well as people who use their flimsy beliefs to oppress marginalized people.

[@tonyclements1147]

Aww, OP is cranky ‘cause we think for ourselves.

[@powbobs]

Projection

[@JesusisGod-yk4th]

Repent and believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Become a new person in this life..... John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Matthew 4:17 KJV From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

[@joshsheridan9511]

I don't need to be a new creature and I've nothing to repent for, with no one to repent to. And your bible babbling confirms you have no real answers

[@ianchisholm5756]

Matthew 7:21-23: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

[@ALTDOK667]

​@@ianchisholm5756Praise the Gourd Lod! PRAISE IT!!

[@kitchencarvings4621]

The arbitrary is inadmissible. Stop allowing it into your brain. Dismiss it without consideration, because it is nothing and says nothing about reality.

[@redloh7204]

So you’re OK with God having sex with a teen girl Chris Hansen should know about this.

[@louiskriel7025]

Listening to theist made me realize doesn't matter how and how much you explain something to a theist fool they don't get it. Like the guy who sent his dumb friend to town to by him a guitar,so he ask what is a guitar? No matter how and how much he try to explain what a guitar is. He couldn't get it. Frustated his friend said do you know what a pumpkin look like? He said YES, so he replied a guitar looks similar to a pumpkin but only totally different. 😊

[@quentind1924]

​@@JoeByeDumb "Explain something LOL atheism is a disbelief or lack of in God or gods." If an atheist has undeniable evidence that a religion is false, they can explain theists stuff. And atheists also can have knowledge about some science stuff that theists don't know about (which i'm pretty sure is what OP was talking about, that and logic gaps in their arguments) "Okay answer my question. Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without the Creator without God if so please provide evidence to why you believe that" There was some scientific experience showing that essential components of life can appear naturally in water. Now take the amount of water on earth and a billion years, and it becomes much more likely. And after it appears and is given enough time to replicate a few thousand times, and you cannot really stop it to invade the oceans. Then evolution explains what happens after, it also explains many things about why humans have X (every emotions are really important for us to live, empathy helps humans to survive as a group,...). And note that it's what we know with our current knowledge. We will most likely know much more in 50 years or more to fill even more gaps theists like to exploit ("you don't know about how X could happen so your theory cannot work", 100 years ago it was how life appeared, 500 years ago it was that + how humans could exist without god and now we still see theists use that argument), and note that it also works in the other direction : we couldn't answer those questions 500 years ago, but it didn't showed that religion the only answer, so it's the same thing for questions we still can't answer TL/DR : If it's that long, it's because science can answer your question it pretty well, and that text woud've been bigger if you asked this question in 2074, so the gaps we have today isn't enough to disprove it

[@stephenolan5539]

​@@quentind1924 I don't know if life started without God. But I have seen no reason to believe that a God is needed. What precise step is a God needed for? Not bioactive molecules reproducing. So at at what stage?

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

@@stephenolan5539 Agreed. Suggesting a god created the universe and stating that the universe is proof of God, is putting the cart before the hose. God must be proven before the creation of the universe can be attributed to God. Otherwise it makes as much sense to say "the universe was created by an 8 legged sloth called Montgomery - the universe exists, therefore Montgomery the cosmic sloth exists".

[@titania2112]

The boy ken is not a smart guy.