Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

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The Atlantic

The Atlantic

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@mwfolsom
@mwfolsom 14 күн бұрын
Most H1B visa workers are doing normal jobs - it is all about cutting the cost of employees.
@gracevalentine1666
@gracevalentine1666 12 күн бұрын
Several school districts I’ve worked for in New Mexico preferred h1b visa holding teachers because they were cheap, willing to live in communal housing and they don’t unionize. Jus sayin
@jenna2431
@jenna2431 15 күн бұрын
The conflation of immigration with racism is the issue here. MAGA doesn't do the blex and the brownz, no matter how smart.
@crystalr.forbes8982
@crystalr.forbes8982 15 күн бұрын
Really? Cause I’ve worked with H1B workers here doing basic project management and entry level programming. These visas are not always going to the modern day Einsteins
@douglasjensen8986
@douglasjensen8986 14 күн бұрын
The H1-B immigrant's Musk, Trump, etc. want do not do basic project management and entry-level programming. They are highly educated and intensely motivated, far more so than their US age-peers. They easily qualify for admission to elite Ph.D. programs if they choose--in fact, most STEM Ph.D. students in the US are immigrants. They are entrepreneurial and start more new businesses than typical US young technologists. But yes, not all of these Oriental and Indian young people are super-stars. But like when fishing, you have to catch many fish in your net to maximize the number of best ones.
@joko09010
@joko09010 11 күн бұрын
Just like Melania getting her Einstein visa? What a joke. Musk was here illegally for years after his student visa expired. They abuse the systems that we have to abide. It’s a two tier society.
@mikeb5664
@mikeb5664 9 күн бұрын
Who gave you the idea that you'd be working with geniuses?
@vaffankoolo
@vaffankoolo 11 күн бұрын
The US should be investing in training Americans to do the jobs for which H1B visas are currently necessary. How is that not part of the program...
@mikeb5664
@mikeb5664 9 күн бұрын
The US has one of the best education systems in the world. Unfortunately it produces some of the worst results. Maybe you can get Republicans to stop attacking education in general. Good luck with that.
@whitneyanders5945
@whitneyanders5945 9 күн бұрын
Why bother educating the citizens when you can ship them in for cheap? In Australia, successive governments have gutted the education sector, especially where apprenticeships are involved. Unions have also been gutted. Easier to bring them in from China and India .. they are happy to be exploited.
@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286
@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286 12 күн бұрын
Building a policy on lies and unrealistic promises should meet big problems.
@gradylucas5265
@gradylucas5265 9 күн бұрын
lol, face it you lost and showing your delusion, same as the creator of this video
@Mtn_Mig
@Mtn_Mig 14 күн бұрын
As a research consultant, H1B visas are killing me. I can't compete with someone willing to do advanced statistics for the wages of a waitress.
@RobertWF42
@RobertWF42 23 сағат бұрын
What line of work are you in? I'm a statistician in the insurance industry and haven't had too much trouble finding high paying positions (except after 2023 layoffs, but the economy seems to have rebounded since then).
@TangomanX2008
@TangomanX2008 10 күн бұрын
Something is off. In an immigrant who is so talented that resulted in so much innovation it creates American jobs around him sounds a lot more like an O-1 visa than a H1V visa.
@patriciakauffman8941
@patriciakauffman8941 11 күн бұрын
Coming with the permission of a visa is different than sneaking across the border.
@craven5328
@craven5328 14 күн бұрын
Just to comment: # of patents filed is not a very good measure of innovation, and in fact could be a drag on innovation. 1. A patent filed does not mean a product is built, or that the product is useful, or generated any value for anyone even if it eventually produces a product that makes it to market. 2. Patents are increasingly leveraged by patent trolls (NPEs) to tie up companies in litigation, which means these companies start spending more on legal fees, and less and less on R&D. 3. Patents have enabled private companies to extract value from useful products that were actually developed by the public sector - essentially allowing companies to privatize the benefits of publicly funded innovation (see the work of economist Marianna Mazucatto). 4. There are actually a number of studies that show that the majority (by some counts 90%) of the most influential and useful innovations in tech and in medicine - were never patented. However, I do think it was great that you covered David Card's work vis a vis the natural experiment of the Mariel Boatlift in Miami!
@oforde5072
@oforde5072 15 күн бұрын
Why does Roge Karma sound almost exactly like Ezra Klein? Am I hearing things?
@adammorgan8829
@adammorgan8829 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, same rhythm and cadence
@idmann17
@idmann17 2 күн бұрын
I thought he was Ezra Klein, as well, at first. I had to check the description to confirm that it wasn't him...
@alexmm01
@alexmm01 13 күн бұрын
I know this is mostly about H1B but I am really enjoying this topic of how everyone is coming out of the woodwork claiming that we need immigrants (I mean indentured servants) to do the work that Americans can't do (at the very highest skilled levels) or the jobs that Americans won't do (at least for minimum wage or less).
@humanitarianly
@humanitarianly 11 күн бұрын
It's all about his capital. Period.
@Amused-px6cr
@Amused-px6cr 12 күн бұрын
Right out of The Onion....
@jpe1
@jpe1 15 күн бұрын
So much censorship: KZbin shows 9 comments on this video, yet only 2 are visible. Who is hiding the other 7, and why?
@kahlilbt
@kahlilbt 15 күн бұрын
You have to click "sort by newest", you're looking at the top comments.... 🤭
@jpe1
@jpe1 15 күн бұрын
@@kahlilbt that only changes the order, it doesn’t show hidden comments. To be clear, more comments are visible now then when I made that comment (the comment count is up to 21) but specifically one of my comments _isn’t_ visible (even to me) and I still don’t see 21 comments in total.
@paulfrank9047
@paulfrank9047 15 күн бұрын
I just counted 22 comments (23 now that I have replied). You have to also count the replies to comments to get to the total number. I agree that there are instances of shadow banning or unexplainable hiding of comments, but this video with a meagre 1,127 views is definitely not one of them.
@danielleremp4328
@danielleremp4328 15 күн бұрын
@@jpe1 Was that comment a reply? I understand that replies can be deleted by the person that you reply to.
@QuantumDigital2017
@QuantumDigital2017 15 күн бұрын
The Cholos/Cholas that work for them censor the negative ones. ESE buffoons.
@jimmiller1686
@jimmiller1686 15 күн бұрын
The entire discussion misses a point: the argument is over LEGAL immigration vs illegal. the H-1B visa program involves legal immigration while the mass deportation program addresses illegal immigration. Most people have no objection to immigration, provided it's legal.
@jpe1
@jpe1 15 күн бұрын
How cute, you think the mass deportations will be of only illegal immigrants. Think about the last time that a Republican president used the military for mass deportations, when many thousands of US citizens were deported because they had Mexican heritage. The nativists definitely want a repeat of that, and they have explicitly stated that they want to strip citizenship from those they deem unworthy (eg, ‘anchor babies’) to facilitate their desire for ethnic cleansing.
@bluedreams517
@bluedreams517 15 күн бұрын
Most people don't realize how much legal immigration was/is also pressed and cut or being described as illegal anyways by the trump world. People say they don't mind legal immigration, but they also don't often know how legal immigration works and how difficult it is to get through.
@draftmama75
@draftmama75 14 күн бұрын
The chaos all comes from the invective from TFG. No one is admitting this.
@Jonathan-xl4wk
@Jonathan-xl4wk 11 күн бұрын
This isn't about racism it's about employers trying to find ways to keep payroll down. Empty messaging about trickle down job growth from college kids who never have to do anything. The education system has taught this discrimination.Literally trying to screw over the same people every time.
@vincep1c156
@vincep1c156 13 күн бұрын
Why doesn’t Trump bronze his hands?
@norankpost2
@norankpost2 10 күн бұрын
Musk supported Miller financially for years. So he will do whatever Elon wants. And Trump will do what Elon wants .
@Murcans-worship-felons
@Murcans-worship-felons 13 күн бұрын
Don Duh Doy
@marye.garrett7475
@marye.garrett7475 14 күн бұрын
"...sort of..." ",,,kind of,,," your first guest doesnt articulate very well. Frustrating to listen to....
@jmo2104
@jmo2104 14 күн бұрын
🤞🤞🤞
@jamesbarry1673
@jamesbarry1673 14 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Andylimaperu
@Andylimaperu 10 күн бұрын
Haha
@QuantumDigital2017
@QuantumDigital2017 15 күн бұрын
Gulf of America ESE.
@adrianasoldevila630
@adrianasoldevila630 13 күн бұрын
The vast majority of natives do not want to work lower paying jobs because they would lose benefits such subsided housing and food stamps.
@David_Lloyd-Jones
@David_Lloyd-Jones 15 күн бұрын
Trump looks really, really weird here: he's wearing a sensible, even handsome, tie.
@jimmiller1686
@jimmiller1686 15 күн бұрын
These "experts" just sit at their desks and think.. They need to get out and talk to people. I've spoken to our gardener, our pool cleaner, our barista and a good friend, all of whom are legal immigrants from Mexico. ALL are opposed to illegal immigration because they have all gone through all the complications of being legal (and three of them are now citizens), and they don't like others getting a free ride. Three of them have kids in school, one has a daughter who is a lawyer, the other a teacher. Overall positive contributors and tax payers.
@danielleremp4328
@danielleremp4328 15 күн бұрын
These legal immigrants could consider the parable in Matthew 20:1-16: In that parable, a landowner hires workers for his vineyard and pays them all the same amount at the end of the day, regardless of how long they worked. The workers who were hired first and worked a full day are upset and grumble against the landowner.
@deidrebee1
@deidrebee1 15 күн бұрын
The immigrants they're talking about bringing in on H-1B visas are legal immigrants
@Dave-gc7sq
@Dave-gc7sq 5 күн бұрын
Thanks Danielle, also, most, and I mean probably 95% of Mexicans, simply aren't eligible for any kind of path for legal migration. those legal migrants friends of you are just greedy and egotistical, just ask them how they got their status.
@ddp6391
@ddp6391 15 күн бұрын
TDS😊
@SpecialSP
@SpecialSP 11 күн бұрын
Glad to see you recognize that he's deranged. That's a good start. Narcissism will do it every time …
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