Experts Explain Saudi Arabia’s 2KM Skyscraper

[@TheB1M]

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[@adrienparisse8299]

Hi B1M, Please note that at 3:27 you have written 28.5m ^2 foot print which must be typo and should be the length of the side of the square footprint. Or else thats smaller then the average home footprint in even the UK.

You have a mistake in the video - at around 3:25, you state that the building's footprint is 28.5 m², but that would mean that each side of the building is just a little over 5 meters long. That wouldn't fit even a bathroom, obviously. 🙂 According to Wikipedia, floor plates are squares with 28 m sides, that means that the footprint is about 784 m².

@@adrienparisse8299 Damn, you have been faster than me. :)

[@efox2001]

👎 Your "background music" isn't in the background. It's distracting and interferes with the people talking.

[@gregc2467]

Reminds me of the Rainbow song ' Stargazer '

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

How about completing the Jeddah tower first before attempting a ridiculous 2 km skyscraper?

[@xyzabcd3606]

Two different companies

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Same country though

[@xavilend]

It's not like it's the same people working on one project at a time lol.

[@sgb4798]

@@xavilendsame people funding it though, no?

[@AbdikarimMohamed-fh8jo]

1 is private and 1 is government backed

[@_mickmccarthy]

"The Vertical Line" Looking forward to seeing how this one gets scaled back

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

They wanted to make a ruler to measure the line lol

[@n3ff848]

If they scale it back at the same factor as their "horizontal line", the would end up with a 29 meter tall building. I think they could manage that.

[@jonathanj8303]

"The stump"

[@_mickmccarthy]

@@jonathanj8303 👏😂

[@owenstockwood5040]

@@n3ff848 I, for one, welcome the world's most overengineered midrise!

[@flolupo]

Just from the discussion itself and the proposed solutions it is pretty clear that this project is not an answer to any need (like, putting more office space into a crammed location), but rather just the simple desire to build a building of 2km, just "because".

[@TheJojo01902]

Agreed … a vanity project.

[@highcap4952]

Skyscrapers above 500 m are never an answer to any need. They are just for Publicity. Especially in the desert, where you have more than enough space!

[@kik1kik]

Hey now, don't underestimate the need of "we're insecure and need the biggest phallus shaped construction the world has ever seen" ;)

[@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431]

Is that bad thing? To build a monumental building just for the sake of building it?

[@144digital]

"Because" "That works"

[@-vz-]

this was the politest and longest way to say "never" I've ever seen

[@TekkLuthor]

They said the same things about building simple buildings back then. I'm no engineer but I imagine a building like that will need to be a core within a core within a core and every 100 floors or so should be able to shift in any direction to kind of compensate for it swinging

[@dastankuspaev9217]

With new materials. Sure

[@Mac1Eleven]

@@TekkLuthorwtf are you talking about, the tallest tower atm was a struggle to build and they had to compensate but making it really thin at the top

[@JxH]

3:26 On-Screen "28.5m²". *WRONG !!* That would be 5.34m x 5.34m = 28.5m², or about the size of two parking spaces. That tower is skinny, but it ain't that skinny. "m²" has a well-defined meaning, area. Don't confuse it with what some people say, "28.5 meters squared." People are supposed to know this.

[@JxH]

3:46 "133m²" Again, same error in units. 133m x 133m cannot be described as "133m²".

[@Tr1111on]

That’s embarrassing for Arup!

[@TheCraigy83]

i saw that . Even 28x28 meters is very small for the height.. a 11story block of flats near me is around 15meter x 35meter footprint , its probably only 110ft 🤷‍♂️..

[@bg73]

Well done - I noticed this too. I have an entertainment area that is 6m x 6m and I was thinking how on earth is that bigger than the base of that building???

[@RobinNashVideos]

You're right! But there's also no need to say it with a pretentious tone... In any case, it seems more like the editor's fault than the hosts, it's pretty clear that they MEANT length and the editor simply assumed it was area. Which isn't good ofc, but also, the editor presumably isn't an engineer. Even if they were, small slip ups like this happen all the time on post production. It's not gonna ruin anyone's life so really no point in getting angry or worked up about it Still good to point it out!

[@Kiwi2703]

Yeah we all know it's never gonna be built lol

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Instead, I believe that they should make Transit Oriented Development ( TOD ). Don’t get me wrong the tower would save space, however if it’s all spread out surrounding say, a train station; it would make a community and a sense of belonging. One more reason to not make a giant skyscraper is the sun. When a skyscraper is made in front of the dawn of dusk points of the sun, it will block off light to the neighbouring street bellow… but that’s only for a small skyscraper.

[@SnowTheKitsune]

Well they tryibng build the line city.

[@xxdesertstorm]

for real the only people to believe this will be simps to OPEC+ nations as these nations won't be getting money once Western Nations say no to the price gouging Arabs they are

[@red.aries1444]

Yes, but maybe they will at least build the foundation. Then they can dig the deepest hole ever for building a skyscraper...

[@LogsMaggot]

@@SnowTheKitsune the line that was originally supposed to be 170km long but will actually be around 2km in reality, if that? That line? If we go by that ratio, then this 2km tower's gonna be shorter than the apartment where I live lol

[@mathieulandry1814]

The fact that they managed to put an engineer and an architect in the same room without any arguing its also really impressive 😂

[@dredeth]

In reality, in proper professional offices this is how it's done. Leave that dislike between architects and engineers for sweatshop meme offices...

[@jimbim4405]

they're both Arup employees. Thats why.....

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

He’s a young engineer with open mind. Not very common to find these

[@demoman2]

he's not a structural engineer but in the department "Integrating expertise in mechanical, electrical and public health engineering, we design the systems that support buildings and create a delightful environment for the people who use them."

[@sakaar_uk]

best comment

[@AUZZEN04]

Big fan of architect Jack Harlow

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

…

[@serebii666]

😂😂

[@rocketronin]

You crazy 😂

[@FauzanGhazy]

For real 🥶😂

[@lossless4129]

😂😂Lol

[@auglesher4115]

You know your project is screwed when people trying to wrap their heads around have to say “well if we disregard the laws of physics…..” 😂

[@RosinDaddy5280]

😂😂😂😂😂❤

[@hellomate639]

I feel like I'd believe one of these if they had a reinforced concrete pyramid for a base.

[@JeffDeWitt]

It's not that goofy. It's kind of like dreaming what you would do if you won the lottery, then, knowing you won't, you consider you can't do what you were dreaming of, but what CAN you do with those ideas and the resources you actually have.

[@MrSeanman30]

Landing on the moon was once thought, "Impossible." Among many other things.

[@yourdadow446]

@@MrSeanman30yeah not like they promised 3 different big projects and we dont see any progress on them

[@florin9686]

The footprint IS NOT 28.5m2. One side is 28.5m. That makes for a footprint of 812.25m2 respectively.

[@takuan650]

Why not a 2 km. high spiral staircase ? And a slide to go down. That'll keep You fit.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

We all know the people that will occupy the top floors will be able to afford to commute by helicopter to the roof.

[@saumyacow4435]

Make it a waterslide :)

[@mitchell6you]

spiral train on the outside of the building

[@maolcogi]

500 floors, 500 cable cars, and no stairs or elevators. Emergency escape will be ziplining down the cable, or a parachute. xD

[@Tony-op6xf]

Parachutes 😅

[@franciscodanconia4324]

A zip line with a 2km drop would be… exhilarating. And probably have to be 10km long. :)

[@harbl99]

"In case of emergency, don parachute and yeet yourself out of the escape window."

[@tientje124]

A 2 km long slide is the dream of every child. And i guess a lot of adults would try it too😎

[@krashd]

@@harbl99 That would actually be fine for something like the Burj Kalifa, but in a city packed with other skyscrapers like NYC or Shanghai you would splat against the side of another skyscraper. 😂

[@Jonassoe]

Saudi Arabia and UAE seem like the kind of places where ambitious architects can just pitch their crazy projects to the rulers, and they don't have to go through any committees or bureaucracy to get started. Projects don't have to make sense or be economical, they just have to look cool and bring prestige to the country.

[@FahadKhan-cz6cd]

right

[@hvglaser]

Not to mention total disregard for ethical and environmental concerns.

[@0741921]

There's no environmental concerns in the middle of the desert

[@Bb13190]

@@0741921 building such a building would produce a lot of carbon, no matter the location, the problem is the construction. And of course, the exploitation of the building (maintenance, elevator, air conditionning).

[@dg-hughes]

If you think that's ambitious UAE wants to buy a chunk of coast in Egypt near Libya for $50B and build a new city there.

[@alexolife]

"If there's one thing we've learned, it's that middle eastern oil states would rather fail at 1,000,000 oversized vanity projects than succeed at 1 piece of useful infrastructure or build a real economy."

[@aftonline]

I would probably build not one tower, but a set of say 6 or 8 slender towers arranged in a circle, interconnected with horizontal sections between them at regular intervals, and a central tower which houses the express lift shaft that goes all the way to the top. The office or residential space would be in the horizontal sections as well as the vertical sections. The entire building would be cross braced for rigidity because of those horizontal sections, which could extend from the outer towers to the centre as well as connecting the towers around the perimeter. The idea is to minimize the vertical loading by restricting each tower to one lift. If your destination is in the top part of the tower you take the central express lift to the closest horizontal level, and then walk horizontally to one of the peripheral lifts to go the rest of the way up. The towers wouldn't be separated by more than about 50 to 100m so your horizontal walk would not be very far.

[@Arrynek01]

Can't believe I have to say it but... 133m by 133m is not 133 square meters. Probably should fix that.

[@mx0r]

I had to replay it multiple times, as our apartment is around that and it certainly is not larger than NYC block. 😅 It clicked me, when they included the side lenghts.

[@-Muhammad_Ali-]

True. 11.5x11.5 is going to be 133sq.m.

[@ruprup-p1h]

I love how he tries to zoom in on the printed picture at 2:09 :D

[@MultiSciGeek]

Hahahaha

[@horribleIRUKANDJI]

lоl

[@Bannana-Smile]

He wasn't 😂,i think he was trying to flaten/presse down the tracing paper against the underneath image/photo to see clearly and locate the other building.

[@Siranoxz]

I find this quite ridiculous at this point.

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Why don’t they just make TOD instead of like 1 giant building?

[@Siranoxz]

@@KatoombaTourGuide The Saudi´s have always been unrealistic with their expectations to eventually wow people.

[@silvervixen007]

Yeah what's the point

[@ayushkumar-bg1xf]

Because it’s not happening in west , till 2000 all westerners were measuring their development in terms of infrastructure but when china started overtaking in infrastructure they went silent on that front

[@GLJosh]

Being ridiculous IS the point.

[@drgeoffangel5422]

As a retired mechanical engineer, here's my thoughts on a structure that is so high, and thus so massive. I am not a civil engineer, but I would have thought that for such a structure to be built, it would need a foundation, at least a quarter of the total height, below the surface, perhaps even equal to a third of the total height. That would mean digging a huge hole down into the bedrock, which in itself could be a huge engineering structure. Of course, the building could be stablised like tall radio masks with " guy" rods coming down from the structure from various heights, and that would mean that the foundations, would not need to be so deep. The biggest problem for any structure so tall, is the mass, and thus the compressive stress at the foundations. One could envisigage a structure, that has cast iron at the foundations, up to a certain level, then steel, then an aluminium monocoque structure, there on up to the top. For stability, the width to height ratio has to be just right, and thus the foundations would have to cover a huge area, akin to the Effiel Tower. Maybe, they just scale up the Effiel tower design, with material adjustments for mass and stress, because that structure, has done pretty well so far. Can it be done, yes of course, when money, and sense is no object! But whoever designs it, will need to know what they are doing, especially when it comes to identifying all the possible loading conditions. Once it is built, the real practical problems start, like emergency staircases, you walk a freakin 2Km down, or up, if the lifts dont work!

[@azeemabdul143]

This comment needs to be pinned....love from an architect ❤

[@tokiomitohsaka7770]

You’d probably need to switch to exotic materials like carbon fiber for the higher parts especially. Maybe even some high compressive strength ceramic materials like porcelain being added to the concrete in the foundation to make it handle the insane compressive loads, and keep holes for cables to keep tension across the different internal parts of the building so it won’t topple by wind. Also make ceiling height for each floor higher to reduce the number of floors and thus reduce the weight and occupancy. Also, unlike current skyscrapers with their counterweights dealing with wind, such a tall structure would likely experience low frequency standing wave oscillations from the wind and would require multiple pendulums to counter the motion for the peaks of the wave where constructive superposition would occur. Either way, this is a Richard measuring contest rather than practical. Still interesting from an engineering perspective.

[@Connorpellatt]

Excellent content. This is exactly the sort of thing I subscribe for. I learned a lot here, cheers Fred and team

[@into_the_void]

Constructed by ACME.. lead designer Wiley Coyote

[@m.3257]

😂

[@raymondjurie9047]

It'll be about as successful as Wile E. Coyote's usual endeavours, one would imagine.

[@SeanMatheson-n3x]

Yup, it's the modern, real-life equivalent of Wiley Coyote's sling-shot technology.

[@antonerlandsson976]

Great video! This should be a series. A series with the same guys discussing different projects. Big love from Sweden.

[@thatitladi9650]

We need more of these expert discussions Fred... this was really fascinating to hear experts exchange ideas. Very insightful stuff

[@lucasmartinez4248]

Having those two experts explaining this stuff was really interesting, nice video!

[@deadmxss]

I just wanna thank everyone in making this video for using the SI units

[@1queijocas]

He is British, not American

[@deadmxss]

@@1queijocas no shit dude 🤯🤯

[@1queijocas]

@@deadmxss then why would he use imperial units? I don’t think you know this but the uk uses SI units

[@deadmxss]

@@1queijocas and the roads are still in miles and yards. Tell me you haven’t been to the UK without telling me

[@1queijocas]

@@deadmxss roads are the only place in the UK which hasn’t converted to SI. This is an engineering video and engineering is exclusive done in SI in the UK. And I’ve lived in the UK for the past 9 years, I work in engineering and the only place I see imperial units are roads or people height/weight.

[@HUNVilly]

03:47 I don't quite understand 133 m2, is 11,5×11,5 meters. If the average city block is 80 meters wide, that should be more than enough. I'm not sure that the units of measurement are ok.

[@lochkarteorg]

I guess they meant 133 * 133 m2 and 28.5 * 28.5 m2 So: 17689m2 and 812m2

[@mailxxxxxx]

The two guys said it correctly. What that extrapolation gives you is a building with a footprint of 133m x 133m. The video editor just incorrectly „transformed“ that into 133m2.

[@tommelfinger]

28.5m2 should have been 28.5x28.5 m^2, the 2000 meter tower was 133mx133m. They messed it up :)

[@Nounooon]

Yeah I think the structural engineer went above his skillset trying to calculate a surface area. Hope he's not the one who was contracted to build the house I live in.

[@bensblues]

​@@Nounooonneither of them are structural engineers, but Arup have the best engineers in the world. Clearly the video editor has misunderstood what they said.

[@HakimFalkner]

Classic engineer: “I can only really draw squares” … proceeds to draw a wonky parallelogram!

[@rednekokie]

The only question is WHY? Unless they wish to reproduce the tower of Babel. Utterly ridiculous!

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

You do know that they are both fictional, right?

[@kayrosis5523]

Why? Simple. MBS doubts his sexual prowess, but he has lots of money, so throws them at making something... Large

[@elhoward7440]

Like many things men do, it can all be explained by their futile attempts to compensate for their tiny manhood...

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

Actually there is a good reason. Oil states want to bring in other business to create a service based economy. That can be self sufficient, but you need a reason to start moving there. Projects like this are supposed to kill two birds with one stone: loads of services move to the city to complete the project, and they stay because there's all this great stuff around. In theory. But I don't have any better ideas other than going back to camels when the oil runs out.

[@TheGamingMotionTGM]

Tower of Babel itself couldn't be infinitely high to reach God since the ancient builders will lack of oxygen.

[@henene4]

3:28 There's a pretty big mistake there. 432 Park Ave isn't 28m² (28 square meters), it's 28m squared - thats over 700m². Same for the proposed tower - that would come out to over 17000m² with 133m sides.

[@LewisTL95]

Really interesting and technical (but easy to consume) video to watch - seeing whether the design could work conceptually at a high level and key challenges that would be faced. More like this Fred!

[@georgesos]

The real question is not how. The real question is Why?

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

cos they literally going bankrupt thats why ^^

[@shimmy7169]

Megalomaniac dictator ego

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Because someone hiding behind a big lake is scared to set them on the right path.

[@hsvr]

@@chrisrosenkreuz23no they ain’t

[@theunknownguy265]

​@chrisrosenkreuz23 last time I checked, our economy is growing

[@bc_v01]

The area measurements in the beginning of the video are wrong.

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

🤓

[@Mattwattss]

I’ve been noticing lots of mistakes in their videos recently

[@AlphaGeekgirl]

Yeah, 3:53 … puny two bedroom apartment has a footprint of 60 m²

[@tommelfinger]

28.5m2 should have been 28.5x28.5 m^2, the 2000 meter tower was 133mx133m. They messed it up :)

[@cd0u50c9]

Yep just came to say the same, it must be off by roughly a factor of 10..

[@mr.cyprian]

what a good channel - so interesting! well done to both!

[@stephen-he4iw]

I love the attempt to pinch and zoom on paper at 2:10

[@pacldawson]

Given that KSA has scaled back The Line to about 2% of its original length, I’m not holding my breath for groundbreaking of a 2km skyscraper

[@HelloHi-g2u]

Always a good day when there is a new B1M video!

[@AlexSSB]

"There are other ways to keep something tall and thin upright" That's what she said

[@citibear57]

What are you saying? The tower should be covered in blue-coloured glass, and called Burj Viagra? 😂

[@Rakhtor]

I was going to say something like "Now you have my attention."

[@isiomaagulebu891]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@FreeFinca]

​@@citibear57 👏🏻🤣

[@oiartsun]

The notion of a 2km building calls to mind the huge mega-buildings depicted in Blade Runner (1982). I wonder how feasible it would be to build such a structure with a large, wide base, rather than as thin as possible.

[@dalemsilas8425]

Good idea.

[@edmush2010]

It would be like Neom, but square. :) Too expensive to build. It could use more material than a couple of Three Gorges Dams and some 20 years of construction.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

Now I want them to build it just so I can look at a facade full giant commercial with an Asian woman drinking Coca Cola...

[@mcribbedherpleasure668]

Notice the were pyramid design, not skinny pencils

[@gaemr_o5147]

I'm not sure concrete and steel could support that

[@101bennyc]

432 park avenue is not 28.5m2,it’s 28m on both sides. So it actually 784m2. Also 28m2 is like two parking spaces.

[@k7y]

current height of Jeddah tower is 252 m from planed 1000m+. They just about build a quarter KM tower and they already talking about building a 2KM one

[@Arational]

What are they compensating for?

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Idk

[@mark-ish]

The failure of the line.

[@Netizpossible]

Probably the fact they havent finished the Jeddah tower yet.

[@teafanatic8452]

trying to distract us from all the human rights violations that take place there

[@marcolini_]

They have 0 women in decision making positions and it shows. If you only have fat old men smoking hooka making decisions, that's the result.

[@zukaro]

What I want to see is a 2km tall building that's also 2km wide and is an entirely self contained city. Just a massive cube in the middle of the desert.

[@slaveofjesus3878]

The King of All is preparing a 1,500 mile cube city (with new physics) that will come down to a new earth in His good time! Only those of the faith of Abraham will see that city though.

[@carlramirez6339]

@@slaveofjesus3878 I bet MBS thinks you're referring to him.

[@dw5s]

Or a pyramid!

[@llook]

@@dw5s was thinking the same thing

[@_Diana_S]

@@llook Pyramid building was proposed a few decades back for Tokyo. It was envisioned to be 4 km high. The project was not even considered seriously because a) no construction materials could bear such load b) not enough oxygen on higher levels,

[@marcinjemio8857]

432 Park Avenue footprint is not 28.5m2! Each side is 28.5m long, so it is 28.5m x 28.5m = 812.25m2. Still very slim for such a high building, but it definitely is not 28.5m2 shown at 3:27. Same applies to a suggested footprint of the 2 km high building. I assume is side would be 133m long, thus the footprint would be 133m x 133m = 17689m2 and not 133m2 shown at 3:52.

[@seb_617]

Came here looking for this comment. 28m2 is basically the size of a standard living room; would have thought they’d know a bit better.

[@StefanoVerugi]

thought as much, such a mistake is quite embarrassing for a channel promoting engineering

[@TrackCityBand5]

You can see the look on the other guys face when that happens. This was not a great video in my opinion. Why would we want to see them tracing and drawing images that are out of proportion 😂

[@GeekyMedia]

Different kind of B1M video, but I really like it. I hope we get more like it

[@Cloxxki]

Few architects look to tripods. They work great. Large floors could be spanning between the three legs to form parks. Like Eifeltower has 4 legs. With the leaning-in legs, elevators could even be simply vertical cables like orbital elevators proposed. Bypassing the structure, supoorted from above, very lightweight and efficient way to do it. When building the 2000 meter tripod, from the first cantilevered park, you have the support needed to be stable.

[@mrsir1725]

I've never seen jack harlow this quiet

[@FP-ty9qf]

Waste coming out, did you say? Dubai asks you to hold their beer!

[@Flumphinator]

No, that’s not beer…

[@richardpavlov442]

Inspired by famous poop trucks i envision poop helicopters and perhaps even poop catapults and cannons to deal with this problem

[@Enhancedlies]

great video, honestyl this is the best stuff! detailed explainers

[@jamesney3851]

I really liked this format of video! Hopefully it does well, I look forward to more

[@chumleyk]

I love the way they are trying to be incredibly polite just in case they win a contract for work in the middle east...

[@fuzzylon]

I think there needs to be a follow up video - Experts explain why certain rulers, governments, etc. feel a need to build a tallest building just for the sake of being tall - when there's no practical need for it nor for the accomodation and facilities such a building brings.

[@AL-lh2ht]

I brings investment and diversifies the economy. Its that simple. they are building a lot of stuff besides the big cold projects that get attenton.

[@GeekyMedia]

They usually go more into context of video topics on their podcast

[@Amm17ar]

This was awesome guys. You guys already put out insanely high quality content....but this was perfect. Its always nice to hear professionals in the field giving their opinion on the feasibility and possibilities of projects around the world. Always gives us a very unique point of view of the challenges and techniques. Also having a bit of a sneak peak into how some great minds would go about getting something like this built. Really unique and fascinating work. Would love to see more of these two and/or others sprinkled in every now and then on new and proposed infrastructure and projects. Im not a very smart person so I love hearing people a lot smarter than me dumb it down and simplify it. Either way, I love hearing people who know a bunch about their field and love what they do. It really shows, and it always fascinates me. Keep up the awesome work!

[@xvor_tex8577]

"Disregarding all the laws of physics" this is this project's perfect description.

[@leebloketube]

Really enjoyed the video. Great to see something a bit different for the channel 👍🏻

[@refede8099]

Wonderful, I was fed up with the “Cathedral in the Desert”, a step into modernity and we have the “skyscraper in the desert”

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You can make a lot of money from the market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

[@AnnibaleRohlman]

I would really like to know how this actually works.

[@RajSahani-xs1yu]

All you need is a good capital, and the service of a professional broker, with those your investment will most certainly produce high yields.

[@A380_Flyer]

Imagine taking the stairs in an emergency

[@donc-m4900]

Fire pole!😂

[@highcap4952]

maybe the upper floors get wing gliders ;)

[@jimsvideos7201]

20 centimeters apiece, figure -40000- 10000 of them? You'd need new shoes halfway down.

[@donc-m4900]

@jimsvideos7201 American here, so metric is an unknown measurement. But at 20cm times 10,000 steps, wouldn't that be 200,000cm or 2km?

[@jimsvideos7201]

@@donc-m4900 1.24 miles, 8 inches apiece, yeah, 10000 or so.

[@jameslyddall]

As a car guy this is like me saying "I'm gonna finish my V8 engine swap build". It'll happen, one day.

[@epale]

Lidl 😂

[@sohovulture87]

'.....you're welcome...' hahahaha! Very interesting indeed. Like this format with engineer and architect hypothesising. Good stuff!

[@MrSWphoto]

I love that at the end they put what they said into an image generator, the results are pretty cool!

[@eat_ze_bugs]

But why though? They have so much land available.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

Ego

[@AL-lh2ht]

You know most of said land is worthless wasteland. Like, you spend time outside it's so bad.

[@visionentertainment8006]

why not

[@krisstopher8259]

I designed a hypertall in 15 minutes using an X shape and 9 interconnected skyscrapers starting from lower thinner ones on the edges and then increasing the height by 100% and the width by 30%. Two rows of them x4 wings excluding the central and most robust tower in the middle. There are two interconnections (30% of the total height, then 60% and the tower in the middle is maximum elevation. I'm really drunk but i've been designing skyscrapers for fun since 2000, lol. It's an accurate 3D sketch but i can't really show it cause youtube sux

[@velisvideos6208]

X shape? Sell it to Musk.

[@Zebra_M]

I designed one too, by skipping the first 1.98 kilometers I was able to drastically simplify the design. Getting it up there and making it stay there without anything underneath will be a challenge, but I'll leave that up to the construction teams to figure out.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

So essentially using 1000 year old flying buttress technology. Good idea.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

@@Zebra_Mhelium balloons. Lots of them.

[@donc-m4900]

Where do you put the sewage treatment plant? Burj Khalifa trucks it out daily.

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

to everyone's olfactory delight

[@doujinflip]

No, Dubai has since dug in their piped sewage network. The remaining pump trucks nowadays empty flood water and sand-clogged drainage.

[@AL-lh2ht]

the Burj Khalifa has been connected to the sewage system for almost a decade now....

[@jamesogden7756]

The roof. For the free solar and wind energy... to aerosolize that shit all over the city. 😂

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

@@jamesogden7756 hey not to crack wise or anything but you might be onto something there. Imagine if they spread that shit all over the desert instead. LUSH

[@Hectillion]

6:51 this is an easy problem to solve just have 1 fast lift which stops at every 25 the floor and then have another lot of lifts which go from every floor between 0 - 25 or 25 - 50 etc that way you only have 2 shafts which can take the same as 20 lift shafts

[@rsn9394]

one of my fav channels. more videos with construction guys and architects drawing and teaching!

[@LarsRR]

Getting the square meters that wrong really makes me question their expertise. How can two experts both see „28.5 square meters“ as the footprint for a 426 meter tall building and just nod along? 28.5 square meters is the size of my living room 😂

[@lovelywaz]

They better install Showers in every Elevator. Plenty of time to take a shower and get yourself ready to go out during the elevator ride from top floor all the way to the bottom! 😏😏

[@mikezy8290]

I'm building my 20km skyscraper in my swampy backyard 😊😊😊

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

If it’s swampy then… how exactly?? Good luck!

[@mikezy8290]

@@KatoombaTourGuide I have a LINE I wont cross 😂

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

@@mikezy8290 ok I get it now

[@fleshreap]

Eagerly awaiting to see the news and various youtubers cover your 100% real project!

[@mikezy8290]

@@fleshreap 😂💯

[@ThereAndJackAgain]

We need a series on how skyscraper / building is built from start to finish. I want to see the differences between architects and engineers and who exactly designs what etc.

[@brianmclean6293]

The idea to make this video was great! Neat to see educated people working on an interesting problem, thanks!

[@tobik2627]

the footpring of 432 park avenue is 28.5 m² ? thats 5 x 5 meters? and the upscaled version with 133m² is 11 x 11m. some things wrong. one side of the square with 28,5/133m is what was meant i guess.

[@haris.19]

Neom where? Jeddah tower where? 😂

[@jamesogden7756]

Now we're cooking with glue! 😅 (Because it makes about the same amount of sense: none)

[@BlessedHash]

How do we short this project?

[@manueledelisio]

Great video, as usual! The funny bit was hearing ARUP's engineer ( Vini ) talking about the potential use of wind turbines in order to generate power... in split-screen with some stock footage of the Strata tower in London, with its wind turbines turned off ( forevah )

[@WowIndescribable]

Great format! More of these, please!

[@MatroX67]

didn't know Andy Serkis was an architekt

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Same!

[@donc-m4900]

Who designed the Two Towers?

[@xXpearcider19Xx]

It got the world laughing

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Hi

[@a_d_a_m]

but the joke was on meeee

[@prxzmsAU]

if this ever actually gets made, you know that ill be yapping about this all the time

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

100%

[@David-ud9ju]

I appreciate that the engineer and architect are conforming to stereotypes in how they look. That's always reassuring.

[@diantonovich]

Fascinating engineering. I’ve been in Jeddah, that building is horrifying and it’s sucks. I would not like to spend any time in a 2km building like this

[@koaschten]

7:30 cable elevators won't cut it in a 2000 m high rise building. No word about about options like the Thyssen Krupp "vertical magnetic levitation elevator" which they call "MULTI" ? Bonus, it can not only move vertically but also horizontally, so you have a vertical shaft and when you reach your level you take the exit to a parking position and leave the cabin. Bsically dozens of autonomous cabins zipping though the building. They go at a targeted speed of 6m/s sp 2000m in about 5min 30sec, but passengers will have access to a cabin every 15 to 30 seconds.

[@JeffDeWitt]

Ahh... a Turbolift.

[@n3ff848]

I wish someone would suggest the Prince to build a skyscraper to the moon, to really show of the Arabia superiority. I mean why settle with the Line horizontally, when you can have a VERTICALLY line?!

[@stompingzebra1161]

How about completing: Oxacon, Sindalah, The Line, Trojena, Leyja, Epicon, Siranna, Utamo, Norlana, Aquellum, Zardun, Xaynor, Elenan, Gidori, Treyam, Jeddah Tower, Qiddiya and the Dragon Ball Theme Park before announcing a 2km skyscraper???

[@PeterB198]

As I practised commercial architect for 20-years, I agree with everything the two gentlemen said

[@ThexBorg]

Wind sheer is the biggest challenge, but don't forget the thinning atmosphere above 1km. There may be some air pressure differentials above 1000 metres. It could be on a rotating base and shaped like a fin and the tower rotates based on wind direction. If fixed, the basement would need to be about 1/4 -> 1/3 the height.

[@NSaNelydangerous]

I don't understand the footprint at the beginning at 03:25. It says 432 has a 28.5m² footprint. That's a studio apartment. I don't understand how it goes on to say the 2km building has a 133m² footprint either. What are these figures supposed to mean?

[@passakornkarnprawatlerdwat5246]

432m tall building has 28.5sq.m. footprints so 2km building, which is about 4 times as tall, should at least have 4 times bigger footprint. The point is that the footprint would be stupidly big for a super tall building.

[@andreas.richter]

Yes but the numbers are wrong… 25sqm is 5x5m, which is the length of an SUV (which should be a common us measurement 😉)

[@Samuel_J1]

Yeah, it should be 28.5m each side, which gives 812.25m². For the silly tower it would be 17689m²

[@sebastian85429]

they mean (28,5m)².... 28 meter squareD. understandebly this is very different from 28 square meter... i guess some writer/editor got this mixed up

[@NSaNelydangerous]

@@Samuel_J1 That makes more sense, it's the length of one side, not a sqm value.

[@MisterMotel]

Nothing to explain because it will never work. just like NEOM, the line the palm islands etc etc.

[@donelmediterraneo8626]

Actually everything that has been made in Dubai works : Palm Jumeirah, Burj al-Arab, Burj Khalifah It's the saudis who're announcing crazy non-sense projects just to catch-up what UAE did 20 years ago

[@georgeblackwell2306]

What exactly are they smoking when they come up with these projects?

[@teafanatic8452]

billions of dollars in oil money

[@-_James_-]

Camelshit.

[@666LonesomeSailor]

Only the good stuff we´ll never get! :D

[@KristovMars]

As a fan of Adam Something, I expected my viewing experience to just be me laughing and/or shouting about stupid giant ego-projects. But I was VERY pleasantly surprised to see these guys taking a real crack at "what if" - some of their concepts actually look pretty interesting. Hopefully we'll see them implemented in a (much smaller) building that actually gets built. Got some good world-building ideas for my spec-fiction work too, so thankyou! Have a sub!

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

Quite the best video you've given us this year, thank you. No doubt a great insight and explanation of behind the scenes considerations engineers are faced with when architects come a-knocking on their door, for those of us who fancy that we know a thing or two already, it was an interesting reminder and led to so many more questions. Was there no room to mention the latest in pre-booking lift journeys; effects of gravity on pumps getting water that high; even the benefits of cylindrical towers with those wind blades spiralling up them? And and and? Please can you consider a part two going into such details.

[@jieth_]

name of 2km tall building/tower ?

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

The 2KM building

[@mark-ish]

Y2K

[@tomvg87]

Barad-dûr

[@m.3257]

Burj Arabia

[@dalemsilas8425]

Skidmark

[@noprivacyverner]

hehe they cant even build the 170 km of the line and now they wanna do this hahaha

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

Yep…

[@musicaddict9058]

Jealous americans never disappoint with their comments

[@rafael_lana]

Its 85x smaller, surely they can make this one. Right? 🤣

[@KatoombaTourGuide]

@@rafael_lanabut this time it’s a line up

[@musicaddict9058]

Muricans try not to be jealous of better countries challenge impossible

[@AegnorTelrunya]

Why don't we just ignore these trolls?

[@edgarkeisi]

Because they are talking about pushing boundaries and because no-one is forcing us to watch, we could just turn the page, but we are still curious, I think...

[@andreelliott467]

Love the idea from architect and engineer on this project.

[@papendiayediouf5166]

1:50, the way he scaled the size of the project was smooth...

[@bartekd9885]

That's a second time I've heard of Arup at this channel. Seems like some hi-skilled engineering company and the guys here are really explaining stuff pretty nice. Would be great if you'd do a video about that company.

[@davidslatter5213]

Oddly enough, they don't mention simply making the base of the building huge. That would work fine - a 1km diameter building on the base should be easily enough foundation to build 2km high. Ofc the cost would be massive - you are effectively building a mountain, but it would relatively simple to design and build in concept, and definitely strong enough.

[@iRiShNFT]

Great work , I wouldn't be surprised if they did use some of your ideas. Great episode.

[@kentslocum]

I agree that any building that tall is going to need to rewrite the rules regarding looks. I don't think it can be a tall, slender tower like we are used to--at least not without some significant material breakthroughs.